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How Do You Drew Episode 121 – Film & TV Cameos
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I’m an
I’m Ashley. And this week we are
discussing our personal favorite red
carpet looks worn by our girl Drew. This
is going to be so fun going through this
like literally when you’re saying like
[laughter] all aspects of Drew’s world
and I’m like this is like literally her
whole life.
I know.
I was like reviewing while doing this
like a little bit of research. Like
it’s also wild that we’ve never done
this. Like it feels like we must have
done this at some point but nope we did
not. I literally was like oh my god did
we do this for the website because we
had like a top five. Yes we did. We did
a long time ago.
Oh did we? Yeah, it’s gone though. It
like got lost when our site got lost.
Anyway, this is totally unrelated too.
Okay, I was just gonna say like we did
magazine covers because I remember that
list too.
And we also done our favorite of Drew’s
performances. So, if you go guys want to
know some of our other picks. Uh we will
put links to those on the episode page.
Yes. Can we do some follow-ups to our
last episode? Yeah. Our last episode 121
was all about Drew’s film and TV cameos
and we had a caveat at the top. We were
like hopefully this is the definitive
list. We’ve probably forgotten
something.
We kind of joked about it a lot
[laughter] like
Yeah. So I mean first thing is I want to
say is that I think some people consider
Batman Forever to be a cameo and that
did not meet our criteria because first
of all she gets like opening credits
billing like a cameo would never have
that and she’s in quite a few scenes. It
was originally supposed to be more like
a cameo but the role was expanded and if
you guys want to know more about Drew’s
um involvement in Batman Forever you can
listen to our episode 107. It was a
really I really enjoyed doing the
research on that one. And I had so much
fun.
I was just going to say for how little
she’s in the movie, I feel like we
talked a lot about like her involvement
and it was really fun. Like that was a
weirdly fun episode, right?
I just um had a message from our friend
Joalena who she just listened to it and
she loved it. I was like, “Thanks. I
love doing it.
Thank you [laughter] Joalena. We love
you.”
Okay, so we also just wanted to mention
that we did miss a few cameos. It’s
bound to happen, right?
We’re human. I guess we’re not the
perfect Drew Barrymore encyclopedias we
claim to [laughter] be.
We’re using like so many sources and
then still things pass through.
Um so in 2005 there was a movie Stewie
Griffin the untold story where Drew has
a voice cameo as herself
and this is um Drew at like an event or
premiere and she her date is the
Kool-Aid Man. So that’s kind of funny
you [laughter] and we’ll we will link to
that as well. It’s on YouTube. Um, the
next one was pointed out by our dear
friend Tess. She was like, “Hey guys,
remember in 2022, Drew did a Simpsons
voice cameo as herself.” So, she had
done a guest appearance in like 99 on
the show,
right? As a character.
As a character. Yeah. This was like a
very literally a cameo. It’s like two
lines or something. And she’s herself on
the phone with Marge. And that is season
34, episode 4, The King of Nice.
Yeah. And that’s I love that Tess
pointed out. She said like the Simpsons
is huge in her household. And I was like
that’s so cool that like she like pulled
it out of like two fandoms. I don’t
know. Like that’s really cool.
Yeah. Thank you, Tess.
Yeah. And last of all, um in 2023, Drew
was on the Eric Andre show as herself. I
remember the ridiculousness of her like
she was like overly compassionate,
right? Like as herself.
Um, it’s like this panic moment where I
don’t even want to try to explain it,
but um, she’s like comes in, she’s like,
“I’m Drew Barrymore. I’m an empath. I
can help.” And it’s like, it’s very like
it’s over the top
esoteric comedy. It’s very strange and
like what what just happened.
It’s very Eric Andre. I guess if I know
like very little about him, I can see
that it goes that way. Like almost
like weird, like over the top, but just
like a little bit uncomfortable. Like
what?
Yeah. [laughter]
All right. Okay. So, now we can move on
to other things at the top of the
episode. So, let’s talk about things
that Drew’s proclaimed her love for
recently.
I love love.
Okay. Drew loves a loaded baked potato.
Yum.
She loves a Diane Keaton baby boom
moment. [laughter]
She loves fried green tomatoes, which I
remember her proclaiming her love for
that like decades ago. So, I love that
consistency.
I think I’ve seen it once and I do
remember enjoying it.
Oh,
right. I need to see it again.
Really? I’ve seen it a lot. It was like
a favorite of mine for a while. Um, it’s
like also the other Mary Louise Parker
movie where she’s like sick and kind of
in a lesbian relationship. [laughter]
Got it. Very familiar.
Yeah. Drew also loves coffee and steak
together.
Okay.
She loves a Japanese breakfast.
Okay.
Harold Ramos. Okay. Watching cooking
shows. No surprise.
She loves when it’s not unanimous.
[laughter]
It’s kind of that thing of she loves a
debate, all those things.
Okay, sit down. Did you know Drew loves
the Beatles?
No way. How has she not said that?
[laughter]
I know. I checked.
I mean, of course she said it, but like
in any of the things that we
specifically have covered like
since we’ve been tracking. Yep. Okay.
She loves Rod Stewart.
Okay. Drew loves America’s Got Talent
and wall art. I like the wall art. As a
framework for many years, I’m like,
“Yeah, me, too.”
Hey, yeah, that’s right. [laughter]
Now, let’s uh go into our mailbag.
[laughter]
You’ve got mail. We got a really sweet
email from the lovely person who runs
the Lucy Lou fan account, Lunatic
Fringe, which is such like creative
name. I love it.
That’s cute.
Um, this is just going to be a little
small excerpt. She also shared a lot
about Lucy’s involvement with Charlie’s
Angels. And she showed that she has she
owns the red dress that Lucy wears in
the massage scene with Tim Curry. And
it’s like on a dress form and it looks
all beautiful. So, I thought that was
really fun.
That’s so cool. Yeah. Okay. So, she
said, “I’m a huge admirer of yours and
what you’ve been able to accomplish with
your fandom, including your amazing
memorabilia collection. The podcast is
fantastic and fun to listen to. As a
Lucy Liu Liunatic, I especially loved your
recent Angel’s Anniversary episode.” A
thank you.
Thank you so much. And we will link to
that Instagram as well. You guys got to
go to how youdrew.com for all the
episode links. and we love collectors.
So like just like to hear that somebody
like has a costume and gives a
about that like I don’t know you know
it’s like
on a like completely separate but
related side note um there is also an
Instagram account called the Alyssa
Milano Museum.
Okay.
And the guy that runs that has been
collecting for way longer than we have.
And I don’t know how much you know about
her, but she has like a huge like
overseas like she was like huge in Japan
and stuff and I think he’s French, but
he showed his binders and it like put
ours to shame. I couldn’t believe it.
I love imagining other collections like
ours. Actually, I haven’t Why haven’t I
really imagined like specifically like
binders of like photographs and clips
and stuff?
I will send you the post. Yeah, I was
nerding out on it.
I mean, come on. I’ve got I’ve got a
sound for this. I love paper.
Yeah.
Yes.
I like paper. I want paper.
[laughter]
Paper in binders. Thank you.
I mean, we are I’m just It’s like making
my heart flutter a little bit.
I [laughter] know. I get it. I get it.
All right. Speaking of things that make
our mind our minds flutter. No, our
hearts flutter. Let’s go into the kind
comments corner.
So sweet.
Okay. Did you see this Instagram reel
that went up today on the Drew Barrymore
Show’s Instagram account?
I just watched it. Yeah.
Oh my gosh. So, it’s a They show a
picture of Drew when she was 10. And I
know that we have talked about this
before. She just looks you can just tell
she is just struggling like she’s in a
sad place.
The one part I remember she says
something like if you look in her eyes
you can see that she’s seeking like who
do they want me to be?
Yeah. Yeah. She’s just talking about how
there was so much pressure on her for
like her looks and her weight and like
you’re not old enough, you’re not young
enough, you’re not cute like you were in
too heavy.
Yeah. So, um anyway, of course there’s a
lot of really sweet comments on that,
but I like this one and it has a mention
of her being a light, so I thought this
was a good one for us to [laughter]
pick. Take a drink. She’s mentioned
being a light.
And this was left by Julia D. Whitley.
And Julia says, “I see you. I too was
that little girl being told who and what
I am by everyone but me. You have been a
light for so many of us all through your
life. And now you are lighting up the
sky with love, energy, and soul. Thank
you for being you.” That’s really sweet.
I know. That whole thing like really got
to me.
Yeah. And I think that she,
you know, she’s seeing that little girl
in a totally different way in the last
like several years. And it’s amazing.
And it’s amazing for us to go through
this and see the trauma like
within the pages of her book, within
like her life that’s been so public.
Yeah. Did we talk about the sardines
thing? I don’t think I think it happened
in between recording. Did you see where
she like
said she had a realization in therapy
that she as a little girl is one of the
sardines?
Yeah, I did.
Like it was healing. Yeah.
Yeah.
We love this stuff. And it’s like in a
way it feels like woo woo but in another
way it’s like no like this is like
healing you know.
Yeah. No, she needs to do this work.
[laughter]
Yeah.
From my like very armchair
perspective but like
deep diving in Little Girl Lost and
doing all these other millions of you
know hours of
you want to talk to her about them
because we know her perspective is like
so interesting.
So anyway that was lovely. Thank you for
that comment.
That was nice. And that was that post of
Drew was lovely of her talking about
that. Like it was really sweet. Okay, so
let’s get into what’s new with Drew.
Here we go with the news, everybody.
Okay, so the MSC cruises, remember we
talked about we knew that she’d filmed a
commercial. So there’s just a couple
more snippets that have come out about
that. There’s a cute behind the scenes
video and there’s also an onset
interview with Drew and Orlando Bloom.
So, be sure to check out their YouTube
if you want to see those. And again, we
will share the links. Okay. So, let’s
get into the next two episodes of
Hollywood Squares. Okay. So, um as of
this recording, episodes three and four
aired. There will be more airing the
night we record this, so we’ll talk
about those next time. Um this is really
sweet though. So, we have a nice little
like correspondence relationship with
Deborah Ferullo, who has worked with Drew
forever as a makeup artist, and she
worked on Hollywood Squares. and she
sent us a sweet little message just kind
of because I was asking you know how
sometimes Drew has this like freckle
here that gets really like um
colored in
accentuated. Yeah. Yeah. So I was just
like, “Hey, what’s that all about?” Like
I’m just curious, you know?
So she said, “Hi, happy new year.” Yes,
Drew has a little something there. Not
what you call a mole, but maybe a
freckle. For this look, I think I was
going for a 60s vibe, and I thought
giving her a little mole would be cute.
We do 22 shows and I try to change it up
for every show, but sometimes there is
just simply no time. So, we repeat a
look. And then she said, “As far as my
process goes, I have none. I’m not a
makeup artist that really thinks about
it. I like to start and then see where
it takes me.” Honestly, I’m just
crossing my fingers and winging it. I
love it so much. And that just like that
sentiment feels so Drew like
Yeah. And like successful every like her
Hollywood Squares looks so great.
They’re so great.
They’re so great. Who’s styling her for
them? Is it Lee or is it not Lee?
No, it’s not Lee this time, but um I’m
sorry. I don’t have the name at the top
of my head, but um Matthew Kilgore is
involved, which is cool. We like saying
that
Lana does her hair, but for some reason
Lana’s not in the credits. It’s kind of
weird, but like on social media, she’s
being credited by the other people who
worked on the show. I’m going to assume
that’s [laughter] correct.
Maybe it’s like more on like a team like
that’s lower level somehow. I don’t
know. That’s or just like Drew’s
personal like she’s I’m bringing my hair
stylist like she’s whatever.
Yeah.
Who knows? Um I’ll pay her out of my
pocket. Like don’t put it on the
whatever. [laughter] I don’t know. I
can’t I can’t imagine what the reason
would be. Okay. So the bonus round facts
I actually don’t remember if one of them
is true. [laughter]
Okay. And this is so funny because the
first one I’m like they absolutely
filled these over the summer. Like no
one listened to our last episode. But
you talked about something exactly like
this on our last episode.
I did and I don’t remember that.
Okay. So, the first one is that she
almost lost a finger once making a
smoothie.
Okay. And I didn’t know if it was true.
So, remind me like is it true or false?
It’s false.
Okay.
And you were talking about fingers in a
blender because we were talking about
the Santa Clarita Diet
first commercial. [laughter]
I was like, what are you talking about?
Like when would I ever have mentioned
that? That is so funny. Now I have the
image. It’s there.
Yeah. [laughter] So clearly somebody got
their inspo from that commercial. Okay.
It’s false. Yeah. And then the other one
was that she said Adam Sandler is her
best on-screen kiss.
And that was true. And I actually for a
second thought it was false because I
thought I was thinking about how she
like kind of had to say that she didn’t
think Jake Gyllanhaal was a good actor on
some show. And I thought there was like
a kiss thing that ended up anyway. Yeah.
And I think like I feel like there’s
been times that she’s been asked that
and she’s deferred. Like she never wants
to like pick favorite. So I was also
like
that’s why I was kind of not sure.
Okay. [laughter]
I mean they definitely have like won
awards for being like on screen kiss,
right?
That’s [laughter] true.
Whichever one has the best kiss, they’ve
won
MTV.
Okay. So now let’s talk about like one
of the coolest things we’ve literally
seen in a while. So, Track Star, if you
guys aren’t familiar with this like
show, I usually just see clips on
Instagram. I realized I didn’t know they
were long form, so I’m like stoked.
So, the guy basically has celebrities,
well-known people standing on the street
in New York listening to music on
headphones and identifying the artist.
And it’s always fun, like almost no
matter who it is, it’s fun. And can you
explain like how this totally was like
structured interestingly?
Um I mean I first of all I wasn’t
familiar with this until so it was like
double exciting for me because it’s
really fun. It’s got like that name that
tune thing to it and it just like
appeared on Monday morning and I was
like what is this? This is so cool. So,
they’re on the roof of the CBS studio
building, which is really funny. And um
every song that was selected for her to
identify, I was like, “Oh, these were
chosen with great intention because
pretty much every single one except the
last one, which is the only one she did
not identify, I could like very easily
connect to her.”
Same. So, I was going to say it really
quickly is that I don’t know if that’s
usually the case. Things about it felt
really different than the other ones.
and she was like, she had just had him
on the show, which I was like, that’s so
cool for him.
And yeah, so she didn’t know this Wing
Chong song. And one thing that was
really funny is I was watching it with
my partner who loves Wang Chung.
[laughter]
He’s like, they’re one fan. No.
Well, we had been talking about Wing
Chong like the day before or like hours
before. I think it was the day before.
And then we watched this and he goes,
“Oh my god, they put a Wing Chong song
in.”
And then I had a weird coincidence with
that song. Um, this week too. Neil and I
were watching an old episode of Angel
and the character Angel like sings Wang
Chung karaoke. I was like, why is this
song in the ether?
That’s so amazing. I need to get back on
Buffy and Angel by the way. I never
finished.
You should. You should.
I really want [laughter] to. Anyway,
back to Track Star cuz it’s so cute.
It’s so adorable.
This is like my favorite thing she’s
done in a while.
And I was like, she loves music. Like
this is so her thing. Like it was so
great. And it also like she had like a
story for everything because again they
chose like very good ideas for songs. Um
and she just felt sort of like similar
to the Bill Maher interview. She just
felt more like relaxed and like herself.
Yeah.
Less performative and like obviously she
has to be performative on her show. But
um this was like a very refreshing like
ah there’s our girl kind of feeling for
me. It was so cute to see her dancing
like dancing to the Beatles and Siza and
The Cure. Oh my god,
it was so cute. And I love that we just
mentioned that she said she loved the
Beatles. Was it because of this?
Yes. [laughter]
And I I was like, “This is perfect.”
Like it’s I feel like when I think of
who her favorite band is, I still think
the Beatles.
Me, too. Yeah.
Like even I don’t know. Does she mention
it that much or do we just know that
when she talks about them, it’s with
such like reverence? Like
I think it’s just that. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. So, talk about the coolest
part. [laughter]
Yeah. How much did you love hearing her
not only talk about this story about
making out in a car to Nirvana’s Never
Mind?
Yes.
But also like she parlayed that into
talking about her time with Hole, which
was like, you know, we always love that.
Yeah.
One of my Nirvana memories is is quite
naughty actually. I had a big old
makeout session in a car with someone to
that album in the morning sun and it was
real sexy and fun. And so when I hear
that album I go straight back to that
car.
But eventually I weirdly ended up
meeting Eric Erlandson from Hole and
going on tour with Hole and Kurt Cobain
had passed at that point. Um, but I am
the proud godmother of his daughter. And
I ended up becoming a part of that world
accidentally.
And how long has it been since she’s
mentioned being Francis Bean Cobain’s
godmother?
I have no idea.
Decades.
Was she at um Francis Bean’s wedding?
I don’t think anyone knows. I think it
was very um private.
Okay. But if you remember, Francis had
posted like a bunch of pictures maybe
over the summer and like there was one
that was Drew was in. So maybe Yeah.
I mean, I love the idea of that.
I know. Why is it so touching?
I mean, I think it’s also just like we
know that. Well, because then Drew
mentioned she never met Kurt because it
was like the year after, which was so
Anyway, it’s great. So, if you are
familiar with Track Star and you haven’t
seen Drews, watch it. If you’re not
familiar, also like go watch it. It’s
great.
[laughter]
It’s so good.
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Are you ready to talk about our favorite
red carpet looks?
Oo, let’s do it.
I love to wear a dress on the red
carpet. It feels so Cinderella fantasy.
That is so perfect. That’s totally the
sentiment that she always uses and she
literally just said that on the show.
Like it was posted today. [laughter]
What?
I know. Cosmic coincidence. I was just
going to say um [laughter] okay so
before we jump into like our tops we’re
going to just do some honorable
mentions. There are a lot.
It’s hard not to.
I literally for this thing I went
through every year where she would have
had a red carpet and skimmed [laughter]
every folder in our candidates folder
until I got to like 2015. Whatever year
I asked you [laughter] like do I need to
do this? Like it it took me so long.
Girl, I don’t know how you did that.
I don’t know why. I mean, there a couple
did surprise me and I think that’s why
you were you were kind of surprised by
my list. But anyway, there are lots of
honorable mentions because it was hard
to narrow down.
But it’s also super fun to go through
like these and maybe why we didn’t pick
them because I think I usually have a
reason why they didn’t make it like
Okay, I don’t know if I have like
specific reasons. Mine are just like
it’s just not quite there. If I’m going
to pick five, these are just right under
there. [laughter]
Okay, so we’re going to do these
chronologically. We’ll also be doing our
top looks chronologically, so we’ll kind
of be swapping wherever we ended up
including something. So, it’s it’s kind
of a weird little format, but here we
go.
Okay, so the first one that I chose as
an honorable mention is the CFDA fashion
awards. That was on fe in February of
How Do You Drew Episode 121 – Film & TV Cameos
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How do you Drew?
How do you Drew?
Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew?
This is a Drew Barrymore podcast brought
to you by the fans, friends, and
historians behind the Drewseum. We’re drawing
on over 25 years of Drewbie expertise to
dive into all aspects of Drew’s world,
from her personal life to her
professional career. Special thanks to
our sponsors and friends at Positive
Medium. I’m an
and I’m Ashley. And this week we are
discussing Drew’s many film and TV
cameos.
Fun.
Yeah, fun. Here’s our little like one of
our uh many like list episodes that
we’re working on.
Yes, I was going to say the same thing.
I love these like definitive list
episodes that we do.
Yeah,
definitive. Hopefully. We already had
realized we missed a couple and had to
scramble to add them at the last minute
in our notes.
So definitive.
So definitive. Now it’s definitive.
Hopefully. Hopefully.
For this moment right now, as far as we
know.
Yeah.
All right. So, for the top of the
episode, we’ve got some tidbits, it
looks like. What do you got here? Well,
I do want to follow up. So, when I
listened back to our last episode, I
feel like I was a little hyperbolic
about Drew and Jade’s relationship
because I was like, Jade being Drew’s
mom, if you guys don’t know, I said
like, “Oh, since 1992, they haven’t even
spoken.” I think I made like a very
broad statement like that. And then, of
course, it like came back to haunt me. I
just kept thinking about it like, “That
was so not true, Ashley. Why did you say
that?
So, you’re like, I need to clear this
up.
Yeah. So, um I just want to say, you
know, aside from the Tom Green era of
like late was late 2001 where she
actually like did spend time with Jade.
Aside from that, um we do know that they
had like always occasionally
corresponded throughout the years via
like letters or calls or texts like very
um
sporadic or
Yeah. sporadic and not in person, but we
do know of a few moments that they were
photographed together. Um, in 2006, Jade
attended that really cool um, photo
gallery.
I think it was almost even like a
charity auction of Drew’s photography
from Africa for Marie Claire.
Yeah.
And then also in 2011, they were
photographed on Mother’s Day um,
alongside Will Kopelman. So, they’ve
definitely seen each other a few times.
I don’t think they’ve ever met Drew’s
like Drew’s daughters have ever met
Jade. It doesn’t sound that way from how
she’s spoken. That’s wild.
Yeah, that is crazy. So, anyway, I just
wanted to be like a little more clear, a
little more honest and specific, but
yeah, they don’t have like the
traditional mother-daughter relationship,
no matter how you want to look at it,
right? And they never have,
right? If you’re a regular listener, you
probably like know what we meant and all
that, but also we talk about Jade a lot.
Like, it’s a such a I mean, it’s a I
mean, we talk about Drew’s history and
that’s such a huge part of her formative
life is her relationship with her mom.
Um, so I think it’s important to clear
it up. Um, let’s just do a little bit of
celebrating at the end of this before we
get into Drew Loves. Uh, it’s the 20th
anniversary of the Drewseum on January 15th.
Oh my gosh. So, the Drewseum is our fan
site, you guys, that we created and
opened the doors January 15th, 2006. And
that is just crazy. We’re the longest
running Drew fan site on the internet.
Also, 20 years.
That’s a long time that we’ve dedicated
to this little project of ours.
Yeah, I’d say so. And that also like it
puts us at almost like 30 years as fans
when you like think about it.
Oh, yeah. We’re getting up there.
So cool.
So cool. So,
yay. Yes. Yay. The Drewseum. If you don’t
know the Drewseum, please visit the Drewseum.com
and peruse our little online Drew
Barrymore Museum.
Yeah, it’s the perfect companion piece
to this podcast.
Yes, exactly. It comes from uh our
little effort and hearts many years
coming. Um, okay. So, should we get into
what Drew has proclaimed her love for?
I love love.
Yeah, we got a great list this week.
Okay.
Okay.
Drew loves Christmas ornaments. Okay.
Snacking.
Oh, me too.
Treats.
Me, too.
She also loves civics and planning and
neighborhood stuff.
That’s funny.
I know. She loves a mayonnaise and
lettuce sandwich.
Yeah, I know. But also, I’m like, well,
I love like a mustard lettuce cheese
sandwich, so who am I to judge?
I’ll just eat mustard cheese all day
long. Mustard cheese. Mustard cheese.
So, like, yeah.
Um, she loves reading the news.
Okay.
A box cake.
Okay.
Egg whites.
Okay.
Okay. I love this one. She loves a
crooked label that’s been done by hand.
That’s so cute.
Wasn’t it like a small business on her
show?
It’s like salsa maybe. Yeah.
Yeah.
She loves when she sees men in touch
with their emotions.
A. And then finally, Drew loves a body
of work, which, you know, is kind of
what we’re over here celebrating every
time we release an episode.
That’s true. We specifically love Drew’s
body of work.
Yep.
All right. Um, okay. So, we have
something kind of fun for the kind
comments corner. So, let’s get into it.
So sweet.
I thought this was really cool. Um, I
think we both separately said that we
loved Jaime Lee Curtis’s appearance on
the Drew Barrymore show a couple weeks
ago. Um, and Jamie really seems to
understand Drew. Like what she says
here, I was like, “Oh, she gets it.”
Like this is really cool.
Like deeply gets it. So, let’s hear it.
My mom really wanted uh me to have,
thank God, a childhood,
which I understand you didn’t get. You
didn’t get that option.
No, I didn’t.
Um, and people didn’t step in and say
no. She will have a childhood. She will
have protection.
Yes. Exactly.
And I understand. And you are here on
your compassion comfort couch care,
doing this,
leaning in to people with your puppy.
And you’ve manifested now a life of
compassion, care, and leaning in. partly
because you didn’t get it and you get to
give it as a gift to other people.
That’s so sweet. It’s so perfect. And
you can see Drew like
Oh, yeah.
gearing up during it cuz she’s like,
“Oh, yeah. No wonder I want to make a
safe place for other people. It wasn’t
given to me.” Like,
you know, I always appreciate I’ve
talked about it before like Drew’s
journey is her own, but it it’s hard for
me to hear her blame herself for her
childhood. You know, she does it a lot.
So, it’s nice to hear her kind of agree
like, yeah, no one was looking out for
me and making sure I was safe,
right? And how could she have known in
in the time that was her childhood,
that’s the reality she knew except for
she knew like she didn’t have the white
picket fence and that her family was
non-traditional, right?
But how could she have known like how
much that her specific childhood and her
career impacted her? It’s so lovely that
she can have this show where she
basically gets to have like therapy
sessions like totally on, you know, like
it’s beautiful. So, yay. We’re glad that
it brought her to where it brought her
to, but sad that she had to go through
it, right?
So, thanks, Jamie Lee Curtis. Beautifully
beautifully said. Um, let’s go back in
time a little bit.
What did you pull for this week and Drew
history?
Okay, it’s not that long ago, but I
pulled it because I feel like you’re
going to really like the look, and I do
too, and there’s plenty to talk about
with it. So January 8th, 2017, Drew
attended the Golden Globes and this was
her final time attending those as of
now.
I would love to hope that she’s going to
go back cuz she actually went so many
years.
Yeah.
Um but this was our last one.
She wore a silver and white Monique
Lhuillier
I believe is how you say it.
I think it is Lhuillier probably. Yeah.
Gown. Um, she’s frequently worn that
designer on the red carpet and she was
styled by Lee Harris and I found some
cool quotes from him that he gave to
people.
Okay, so Lee said, “We are both drawn to
what we saw as a vintage art deco
quality in the gown and the special
detailing of the bare shoulder and
pleated sleeve.” Um, there’s also
another note that says it was Drew’s
idea to load up on Harry Winston jewels
so she’d bring a bunch of jewelry. And
it says, “In the end, Drew wore an
incredible array of seven exquisite
diamond rings and the most incredible
pair of flawless diamond earrings. Um,
the dress is stunning. I love the
description of art deco quality because
it looks like a building. It looks like
the art Empire State Building, you know,
like
Yeah. So, it’s beautifully art deco.
Absolutely stunning. I love it. I I want
sort of want to look at what other
dresses by that designer she’s worn just
to like refresh my memory. right off the
top of my head, the um also Golden
Globes when she was pregnant with
Frankie that had like the hearts like
flower petals. And I want to say her SAG
awards from 2010, that dark blue one
when she won for uh Gray Gardens. I think
that one too, but I think there’s even
more.
Very nice. But it’s a beautiful dress. I
love the look. Um and there’s more to
say about it, which is kind of cool.
Like you said, there’s some other
details.
Yeah. So, on the red carpet, Drew was
quoted as saying, “I was in New York in
the snowstorm last night because I
wanted to maximize my time with my
children and I was literally going like
nail-biting. I have a job to do, but I
chose to be a parent first. My karma, we
got on the plane and JetBlue got me
right here and it was all good. I was
playing with my kids all day.”
A that’s really sweet. I love that. I
love when she talks about her ability to
juggle her like family and work life.
Make it hard.
Yeah, totally. It’s also fun to note
that she attended with her Flower Films
family, Nancy Jonan, Chris Miller, and
and Mason Hughes, who was one of her
assistants at the time. So, it’s really
neat that we have a picture of them
together. Like,
we have so few of like her with her
team, you know, like
I always I always appreciate seeing
those. Um, also, speaking of cool
pictures, so Jimmy Fallon was the host,
so makes sense that uh Nancy was on
hand. and he apparently hired this
company called Photomatica to set up a
photo booth, like a vintage one on the
red carpet. And so we have some really
cute pictures of Drew posing in that.
And she signed it, too. I like found a
picture. All the people that went in
signed it. So cute.
A That’s cool. I love a photo booth.
Like
love. Always always and forever.
Yep. And I love that it’s such a thing
at like weddings now. Like every wedding
I go to, I’ve got like a photo strip.
Yes.
Um not the Golden Globes, but you know.
So, one other fun thing about this event
is that they were um at the time
promoting the first season of Santa
Clarita Diet. So, Timothy Oliphant and
Drew presented the best television
series uh comedy or musical and best
actress in a television series comedy or
musical. So, it was neat to see them,
you know, on stage presenting together
when the show would be premiering a few
weeks later. So, that’s really exciting.
And then during the actual broadcast,
the very first commercial for Santa
Clarita Diet aired. So, nice job
marketers.
Yeah. And the marketing for that, we got
to cover that show obviously, but the
marketing for that show is brilliant.
And it was the commercial where it
like kind of looks like a diet ad, you
know? Oh, it’s so good.
It’s like a blender bottle with like
fingers in it and [ ] right? Full of blood. Um anyway, really fun, beautiful look. Um great poll. I think that’s a good that’s a good choice. Um okay, a little bit more before we get into the topic. Um let’s talk about what’s new with Drew. Here we go with the news everybody. Okay, we don’t have too much because sort of similar to summer uh during the holidays, Drew also kind of disappears into hibernation. But we do want to report that there were these two surprise new Hollywood Square episodes that aired for the holidays. They are technically season 2 episodes 1 and two. So that was like out of nowhere and super exciting. Uh did you get a chance to watch yet? I did. Yeah, I did. I loved them. I like it. If you guys haven’t heard us rave about how much we love the previous season of Hollywood Squares, like we’re loving it. Yeah, it’s so enjoyable. Did we know that there were going to be holiday episodes? No, it didn’t. Surprise. And you know, she’s got a great like kind of festive look in them. Um and then like before, um we like to pull the little bonus round facts. So they go around and the contestant has to say if this is like true or false about each of the stars. So, well, I want to read Drew’s because they were both pretty funny. So, the first episode it was that her middle name is Kitten. I’m so glad the person didn’t think it was right. I pulled the speaker to my ear and hit rewind like, did I hear that right? Kitten. Yeah. Yeah. And then the second episode it was Drew designed a handbag called the Carry-more, which is very clever. It’s very clever. Like it does seem like possible. I feel like the person on the show like thought it was true and got it wrong. Drew was probably like, “Wait, why didn’t I do that in the Dear Drew line?” It almost got me. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, “No, but that’s smart.” Like it’s cute. Um but regular episodes will start airing on January 7th and um they’ve already like released press about that one and the January 14th episode. So, we have a lot of fun to look forward to. Yay. I love it. Hey Rubies, we are here to tell you about our website hosts Positive Medium and they sponsor the podcast. We’ve been clients of theirs for over 10 years and we use them for all our website needs on the drusium.com. Their services include customized web design, professional coding, search engine optimization and marketing, plus hosting, which has been huge for us for many years. Plus, their incredible customer service has been one of our favorite features. They’ve literally saved our site quite a few times, and they always help with minor troubleshooting in a matter of minutes. So whether that’s coding issues or back-end questions, etc., we reach out, we get help immediately, which is just invaluable. Lucky you. To our listeners, Positive Medium is offering 25% off any managed WordPress hosting plan using our promo code Drew. That’s D R E W. Visit our friends over at positivemedium.com. Thank you. Okay, are we ready to get into this weekly topic about Drew’s film and TV cameos? Yes. Yes. Yes. So, we want to like kind of set the guidelines for this. So, a cameo is technically a small character part in a, you know, play or show or whatever, and it’s played by a distinguished actor or celebrity. So, these all have to be like post Drew’s fame, right? The whole point is like Drew Barrymore. Um, and we’re only listing ones that are like, you know, less than three minutes. We’re not doing small parts or like guest appearances on TV shows where she like, you know, is throughout the whole episode. Like, these are really like very quick there she is and she’s gone kind of appearances. Right. Right. So, just a side note because they sort of fit into the cameo sort of realm. Uh, we released a whole episode talking about music videos that she’s appeared in on episode 25, which crazy how many episodes ago that was. I’m always shocked. Um, anyway, so if you want to hear us talk about music videos, it’s got his whole own thing. She’s in a ton. So, it’s really exciting. Definitely mostly cameos, too. So, that’s fun. Totally. And it’s funny because when I Googled I was like, I’m just going to Google like Drew Barrymore cameo. The first thing that it mentions many times is SZA’s video for her song Drew Barrymore. That’s a perfect example. Yeah. Talk about a blink and you’ll miss it. Right. So, that one comes up tons of times. So, anyway, we’re not talking about music videos here, you know, movie and TV, other stuff, but definitely check out the music videos episode. We go through a lot of fun stuff in that one. Um, all right. So, let’s begin. Um, we’re in 1985 with the release of Amazing Stories. Uh, she plays a character, Girl on Train, no name. Um, it’s the very first episode um called Ghost Train. It was directed by Steven Spielberg, so no big surprise that she ended up how she got that part. Um, she has no dialogue in this. Um, also in the episode is Lukas Haas, who would later play Drew’s brother in See You in the Morning and Everyone Says I Love You. So, that’s a fun little tidbit. I know it’s so funny like you don’t think of him as like one of her frequently worked with people, but right there it is. I made a cute little picture of like them from each of the productions and put I’ll put it in the gallery for this episode. I love it. Um, but yeah, it this is like talk about a blink and you’ll miss it. Like this train pulls up with all these ghostly like Victorian looking people in it and then it’s gone. Like it’s two seconds. And so you really have to know Drew is there to even catch her. But again, we’ll have um we’ll have a screenshot in our episode gallery if you guys aren’t familiar with this one. Yeah. Okay. Next up, we have Motorama. It was released in 1993. But it was filmed in late 90, early 91. So Drew’s quite young in it. And she plays fantasy girl. And not for the last time is she playing fantasy girl. Um, so Drew literally is playing like a girl in this kid’s dream and she is on a beach and she’s wearing like a bikini in LA and she’s just calling out to the main character in his dream about Motorama, this game that he’s trying to win. You did it. You won. Come on in. Come on in. Gus, you won. You did it. Gus, what’s that? You haven’t won yet. Oh my god, it’s so good. That always gets stuck in my head. You haven’t won yet. I didn’t remember the the rest of it at all. So, it’s it’s also fun to revisit that little blip. Totally. But the so like why is she in this weird movie? It’s full of cameos this movie. It’s like hilarious. Um but it was produced by Donald P. Borchers who had done Far From Home a couple years before this and then he also did doppelganger. So I think he was just kind of like you know trying to give Drew some work at this time in her life and she was gladly taking it as she was trying to get her career back on track. Yeah. Perfect fantasy girl. Yeah. Okay. Okay, so another weird one, guys. Uh, Waxwork Two, Lost in Time. What is Waxwork One? No idea. Um, so it’s from 1992, and Drew plays vampire victim. Again, no name. Um, Drew appeared in a very short scene with her friend Hadria Lawdner, who wasn’t an actress, but came along, which is so funny. Like, she just tagged bring a friend along. Yeah. Um, her friend Brent Bolthouse also appeared in the film apparently. It was so random. Never seen the whole thing of you. Uh, no. I have the VHS tape. Me, too. Maybe I’ve watched it. I’m not sure. Uh, Drew has no dialogue in this either. Um, and it’s said that she was called kind of last minute by the director to come film in a mall at midnight. So, they just like needed someone to fill in. She looks gorgeous. It’s black and white. I She’s beautiful. She’s like a Nosferatu victim and it looks like, you know, old timey movie black and white. Um, do you think she’s wearing a wig? Oh. She’s too much hair, I feel like. But I don’t know. I don’t know either. Maybe they didn’t have a budget for a wig. So maybe not. Probably not. If they’re literally filming it like they set up in a mall like this bedroom, but also like her hair looks kind of like curled. Like who knows? I don’t know. I can’t tell you. We’re lucky we know anything about this. The only reason we do is because when Gayle King came on her show a couple years ago and was doing behind the scenes but for Drew, she picked like some really random movies and I was like, “Yes, Gayle.” And this was one of them. So that’s how we know anything. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Uh we’ve mentioned this one a couple of times recently because this was a very new discovery for us and this is just a voice cameo. Um it’s a documentary about abortion called Roots of Roe. It was released in 93 and apparently it was kind of like repackaged and released again in late 96 or early 97. I just found something about that. It’s kind of weird. Okay, but um all that we get from Drew is that she reads a portion of a letter that like a real letter that was written to Margaret Sanger who is the founder of Planned Parenthood. Dear Mrs. Sanger, I am afraid I am pregnant again. If I was sure, I would commit suicide. very random. There’s a couple other I think like Sharon Stone and Brooke Shields also do voices. So, I don’t know how this happened, why, but it’s a it’s got to be included. Yep. And it’s a first of a couple voice cameos we’ll go over. So, we’re kind of covering that as well. Um here’s a little bit bigger one. We’ve definitely talked about this world this before. So, Wayne’s World 2 released in 1993. Drew plays Bjergen Kjergen. Um we just raved about this because we did the 1993 year in review. So, you can hear us talk about it there, but we’ll tell some details here. Let’s listen to the scene. Hi. Um, we’re here to see handsome Dan. My name is Wayne Campbell. Yeah, I know. We’ve been expecting you, Van Campbell. I am Bjergen Kjergen. Wow, I love your accent. Where are you from? I’m from Sweden. Oh, really? Whereabouts in Sweden? Knuergen near the Bjorgen Fjords. It’s so cute. It’s so cute. It’s like really adorable. She just looks so dreamy. Might as well be called Fantasy Girl in this one. Right. No, I’m just kidding. She looks Yeah, really. And she’s just this like receptionist at a radio station that Wayne and Gar are going to. And not the last time she’ll do a receptionist cameo either. So stay tuned. Take this next fact because I love the fact that I asked you a question about this and like you’re like kind of like assumed and then you were able to confirm it, right? Yeah. So we talked about this before, but just in case you guys didn’t hear. So Anne just like randomly one day was like why was she in Wayne’s world too and I was like I don’t really know maybe the DVD will hold the answer and it did. So I like put it on like that day like as soon as I got home and there’s a little featurette where Lorne Michaels says it was his idea to include her because he was a really big fan of her but he didn’t know if they could get her which is just like we’re we crack up at that idea. She loves SNL. She wasn’t in the peak of her career or anything, right? And then he just kind of credits that Mike Myers and his wife Robin like worked their magic to make it happen. So, we were laughing like they picked up the phone and made one of those charming calls that Drew always makes. Yeah. Yeah. So cool. We I love knowing this because Yeah. When my partner asked me why she was in it, I was like because she’s famous. Like I was like because she’s Drew Barrymore and like it made sense. But also like like you said, she wasn’t like at a peak of her career. Like it is a cameo. I was hearing more. But she was very much like a sex symbol at this time. And I think like you know she’s supposed to be super hot in this role and she is like I’ve mentioned before I see a lot of comments that this was like a sexual awakening for a lot of people. Like she was so hot in this part, you know? So it’s so funny. Yeah. It’s great. Um, one more little tidbit to note about this is that in 2023, Drew played a character with the same name in the Ew, how do they do it? Yeah. Yeah. In the Ew! skit on the Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon. Um, it’s really silly. Like, it doesn’t seem at all like the character. She’s just doing like a vaguely Swedish accent with that name. Um, if you haven’t seen that that skit of Jimmy like playing a teenage girl with braces and a blonde wig, you have to. It’s really funny. Yeah, we’ll link to this exact one. I remember when I first watched it, I was like, did he call her Bjergen Kjergen? But he like doesn’t pronounce it right, but if you turn on the subtitles, it actually say it. Yeah. So, so that’s just fun. We probably talked about this when it happened cuz I I cuz I remember us talking about I’m like, “Oh, 2023. We had the pod by then.” A good little Easter egg. Yeah. Okay, so next we have, and we also talked about this recently, the very strange independent, mildly released movie Inside the Gold Mine. So Drew plays a character named Daisy. She’s in a very short scene and she’s basically just like um it almost sounds like she’s in a cult and she’s trying to get the main character to like join up. like she meets him at a flea market and she’s like talking up. Oh no, you should come to our meetings or whatever. This is uh Daisy. Daisy. This is Emily. Emily Daisy, what were you just We should both come down. I mean, really, it would be great for both of you. Tell her about it. You just seem like you’re so much pain inside of you. What is it? It’s it’s a place and it’s just you it cleanses everything about you and you learn all these things and we do activities and you know, feel great. Daisy, call your dad. You’re in a cult. Yeah, exactly. Also, the name Daisy, how could that not be like she gave it to herself or a friend of hers gave it to her? Like, I mean, she’s wearing her own clothes. It This feels very improvised. Like, it’s almost like they’re like, “Hey, will you come in and you can do whatever you want at this?” Totally. I bet we could find this location, too, cuz of the way I’ve been very interested. It gives like such an LA look, right? Like, you just feel like I’ve driven past this or something. So much so. So much so. So, we don’t know like why she did this. Um, the only connection I could ever find was that the writer director was also at the premiere of the movie Sliver in 1993 where Drew was attending it and that was like probably close to this time and he also went to that with his girlfriend at the time, Natasha Gregson Wagner, who’s also in the film. And I’ve like randomly discovered that Natasha was at a lot of the same events as Drew in the early 90s. So, oh, I don’t know if that means anything, but it’s just like why those are the connections you’ve been able to make. Anything I can get any scrap to make it make sense because it’s supposed to be a horrible movie. I’ve never watched the whole thing. No, I have not either. I don’t think so. Um, part of me was like, do I need to watch all these movies to talk about the cameos? And it’s like, no, we can’t put ourselves through that. Just the 5-second scenes are good. Um, the last little thing to note about this is that she is, like I said, wearing her own shirt and she also wears it in the face magazine shoot. Um, it’s the March 1994 issue that she did with Ellen von Unworth and in the like magazine credits it says like shirt Drew’s own or something like that. We’ve also seen like from Drew’s personal photo archive a really cute picture of her wearing it. So, we love the wardrobe recycles and then when they end up in a movie it’s extra it’s extra cool. Yeah. Why is that in a weird way? I don’t know. It’s just fun. It’s just fun to trace it when like things cross over from her personal life to her professional life. It’s like, hey, that’s her. I have something to say about that in in a little bit, too. Something I feel like was very her own wardrobe. Oh, cool. Okay, so another cameo we’ve got is from 1996 on Bill Nye the Science Guy, the incredible science TV show, which if you’re not familiar with it, like Bill Nye is great. Um, anyway, she’s herself. The episode is called Flowers and she’s got her black hair. Oh my god. Dreamy, dreamy, dreamy. She’s so gorgeous. She’s so gorgeous. And I think it comes through even in the dialogue like it’s really cute. So, let’s uh let’s hear Oh. Oh, hi Drew. Oh, hi Bill. Wow, these flowers are such blur. Um, yeah. Oh, I’m serious. I mean, look at these daisies and sweet Williams their colors just screaming, “Look at me. Play with me. Come get my pollen. Come get my pollen. My intro to this was the clips that they interspersed in Biorhythm and that that’s the part that they showed. Play with me. Come get my pollen. So cute. Like I don’t even know what else we can say about it. I think it’s perfect that it’s the episode on flowers. Yes. I know. It’s so great. Um she looks lovely. Like if nothing else you’re if you’re not coming to the Cameo episode gallery page for anything, at least come see Bill Nye. It’s so cute. We just can’t get enough of the black hair. So true. Um, then a couple years later back on TV, she appeared on the Larry Sanders show in a 1998 episode called Putting the Gay Back in Litigation. It’s a really clever episode title. She plays herself and u basically the premise is the Larry Sanders Show is like a fictional talk show and it’s ending and so they have Drew do this little video for the host and um Jeffrey Tambour is filming it. He’s like the cameraman. And then he starts being really inappropriate and being like, “Okay, now it’s time to like lift up your top. Isn’t that your whole shtick?” Like with Letterman. And she gets pretty mad at him. So, show your tits. What? Well, you know, like you did on on on Letterman, you know, little whoop-doodle. What the [ ] are you talking about?
Cut, cut, cut. Um, I thought that was
like your stick, you know, like I do.
Hey, now.
You’re a pig.
Come on.
And I feel really sorry for you.
again, similar to something else that’s
coming up where she’s like, “What the
[ ] are you talking about?” One other thing I want to say about it is that I think she’s wearing her Otter Pops watch that uh I just read an article from 98 where she’s talking about it and she said that she had been on I think today, like the Today Show, talking about how she loved Otter Pops and then they sent this to her and it was like so meaningful to her. I think she wears it to the Kids Choice Awards in 98, too. That seems like it fits, too. She really liked it at this time. That’s adorable. That’s so adorable. It kind of looks like her own clothes, too, in this in a weird like 98 boring beige way. Totally. I agree. So, next is our second appearance of Drew as Fantasy Girl. Different film, skipped parts from the year 2000. Um, I don’t know what to say about this movie. I don’t really even know like what it was about or anything. That’s weird. Have you never seen it? I think I have, but I don’t remember it. Well, okay. So, it’s basically about like a teenage boy in the 60s, I think, who like decides he wants to have sex and it’s like all about that. But, um, he keeps having these fantasies of Drew, which is a little weird because she’s definitely way too old for him and Right. Um, but the scenes with her are so cute. like her styling the like 60s look is really really cute. Here’s a little clip of that. My mom won’t be home for another 20 minutes. Do you want to do me again? Sam Callahan has a real way with women. I want to have your baby. We all want to have your baby. So awkward. And I just I just love that Drew is fantasy girl again and she like once again has like voluminous blonde hair. Like there’s something so familiar. Yeah. And it’s like in a a young boy’s dream. Yeah. They’re very similar to Motorama. The film was directed by Tamara Davis who’s a good friend of Drew. She had lived with her at one point when she was a teen. Um she had directed Gun Crazy. She did the parts of Bad Girls that weren’t used unfortunately. Um and then she had directed Best Men. She later did an episode of Santa Clarita Diet also, which I totally blanked on. Like I love that. There’s a handful of like directors that she’d worked with before who did episode they brought in. Yeah, I think we’re going to have to get to that one pretty soon. I think so, too. But yeah, makes sense that Drew would do this as a favor for Tamara. And it’s really cute. Yeah, totally. Okay, next up. Freddy Got fingered. And I have a lot to say about this one that I kept like I’m like, “Oh, we’ll get to that. We’ll get to that.” So, this is from 2001. Drew plays Davidson’s receptionist, which uh Davidson is a character played by Anthony Michael Hall, and she works at this like animation studio, and she’s at the front desk just like she is in Wayne’s World, too. So, I think that’s like a fun little through line. Um, it was written and directed by her then partner Tom Green, in case for some reason you don’t know what Freddy Got Fingered is. Oh my god. Going through trying to find her clip. So, I was like scanning other parts of the movie. Yeah, it was a lot. That movie is rough. Yeah. If you don’t know Tom Green’s humor, you might not realize how awkward it probably is. Yeah. But the scene with Drew, so I finally found it. It’s free. The whole movie is free to watch on this website called Plex. I finally found the scene and the one with her is actually really cute. like, you know, he kind of breezes past the front desk cuz he’s trying to get I think like his drawings to this guy and she’s sort of falling down the hall like who are you? And he ends up telling her that that he has to find that guy because that guy’s wife died and she gets very upset and she’s really sad and then he tries to ask her out and then she’s again kind of like Larry Sanders. She’s like, “What the fuck?” Like and gets upset. So I just think it’s cute. You know, I think it’s wonderful when two people love one another and even though there’s always There’s a chance that one of those two people will die a gruesome, horrible death. That doesn’t make me fear love. I’m not afraid of love. Could I be your boyfriend? I love you. Get out of here. No, no, no. I’m just thinking I’m thinking a woman is dead. Linda is dead. I THOUGHT WE COULD GRIEVE together over the DEAD LINDA. OVER THE DEAD WOMAN. OVER THE WOMAN. OVER THE WOMAN. WE [ ] OFF. You’re a SKINNY LOSER. SOMEONE
CALL SECURITY. DON’T CALL THEM.
[ __ ]
Don’t call them. Okay, I got to go.
She’s really cute in it.
And were they They weren’t married yet,
but they were. Yeah.
But yeah, you can see her engagement
ring. It’s
Oh, you can. Okay. Um, anyway, she does
look super cute. And the other thing I
wanted to say about it was that I feel
like her outfit in this feels so doing
promotion for Charlie’s Angels from
How Do You Drew Episode 120 – Seventeen & Vogue, 1993
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Hey Drewbies, before we start this
episode, we just wanted to say happy
holidays to all of you. We appreciate
you so much. We are not doing a
traditional Christmas episode this year,
but we do have Drew’s Christmas movies
that we’ve covered in the past that you
could go listen to.
We’ve covered Olive the Other Reindeer on episode
17 and we covered Babes in Toyland for
episode 65. So, we’ve explored the
movies that are kind of outright
Christmas movies. So, we hope you enjoy
Babes in Toyland Christmas movieish.
Santa sort of at the end.
So, yeah, revisit those and um merry
Christmas.
Yeah, merry Christmas, happy holidays,
and happy new year.
[Music]
How do you drew?
How do you drew?
[Applause]
[Music]
Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew?
This is a Drew Barrymore podcast brought
to you by the fans, friends, and
historians behind the DM. We’re drawing
on over 25 years of Drewbie expertise to
dive into all aspects of Drew’s world
from her personal life to her
professional career. Thanks to our
sponsors and friends at Positive Medium.
I’m an
and I’m Ashley. And this week we are
discussing two magazine features from
the year 1993.
Seventeen from May and Vogue from June.
Yes, we love doing these magazine
breakdowns. We love I think there some
of my favorites to do like maybe not
I think the movies end up being like the
best episodes but there’s so much more
work.
Yeah. And I think that the tidbits that
we get out of the magazines are cool or
like how we can make connections and you
can always you always do your like mini
deep dives. So we’ve got lots of little
tiny deep dives in every single one of
these magazine episodes including this
one.
Yeah. Um all right. So let’s get into
the top of the show before we start our
topic for the week. Um, we are starting
with a little tidbit, I guess, here, but
it’s sort of another thing that sort of
like puts a puzzle piece in, right?
It does. And you discovered this one.
It’s a video of Adam Sandler. I can’t
even remember where it was. It was on
Instagram or who he was talking to, but
he just kind of mentions I think they’re
asking him about like his favorite like
‘9s group or something or favorite
album, right? And he says, “Is it Holes
Live Through This?”
Uhhuh.
And so he says he remembers going
to a show of theirs in Missouri and you
found the date. It’s October 26th, 1994.
And he remembers seeing Drew come out on
stage during the show at some point. And
like we know that this would have
happened like a couple, you know, like
we know that she would be on tour with
Hole a lot in ’94.
Yeah, the timeline fits perfectly. Like
we didn’t know she was at this
particular show. We don’t have any
photos of it. Um, and I like cross
referenced Adam was doing like a comedy
show in Missouri that same day. So I was
like, “Yes, that’s satisfying.” Like,
um, but yeah, that’s kind of fun because
that was a few years before she even
started like sort of knocking on his
door like, “Hey, I think we need to work
together.” So, I kind of love that the
universe in such a weird place sort of
brought them together. Like, who even
knows if they talked? It didn’t really
sound like it.
No, it sounded like he was in the crowd.
He spotted her. like he mentions like
she was dating the guitarist at the time
and she just popped out. But I love that
and I love like
I don’t know that just that little like
he could have seen Drew Barry more at
that point in his life and then never
encountered her again.
Yeah.
But it ended up being this huge
relationship like you know. Anyway,
so fun little tidbit. I was very excited
by it. So thanks for finding and
sharing.
Yeah. Um all right. We have a very short
little list here for this week’s Drew
Loves, but let’s get into what she’s
proclaimed her love for recently.
I love love.
Okay. Yeah, very short. And I’m like I
have to credit that to the fact that
she’s barely on the Drew Barrymore show
these days as we’ve mentioned. And I’m
not kidding.
I mean, they should change it to the the
Rossy Ross show or Sunny Anderson show
or Valerie Bertinelli show.
It’s crazy. There was an episode
recently. She did a 30 second intro.
Then some of the other people did the
whole rest of the show and then the end
was like an old clip from like a couple
years ago and that was it. Yeah. Yeah.
It’s wild. We still haven’t gotten any
any answers on that, guys, but we’re
working.
We’re noticing with no answer.
Yeah. All right. But back to the fun
part. Drew loves she loves a workplace
dilemma. Oh, maybe that has something to
do with what’s going on. No, just
kidding. She loves to be convinced.
Okay.
And she loves a candle.
Cute.
She’s a fire starter.
Twisted fire starter. In fact,
you know.
All right. So, should we get into what’s
new with Drew now? Here we go with the
news, everybody. Yeah. We don’t have
much to say, but this is sweet and
great. Um, she is once again an
ambassador for St. Jude’s holiday
fundraising. Um, you know, she’s been
involved with them for years. Like I
feel like there were like hospital
visits and stuff like that that she’
done. But, um, this time around we have
a new photo in her shirt that says,
“This shirt saves lives.” I think they
like fundraised with that. And then
there’s also a new little commercial.
Well, she’s got like very um 2007 hair
going on. Like straight and parted down
the middle, right?
Yeah. It totally has like everybody’s
fine hair, right?
Oh, I was thinking more Yes. But I was
actually thinking more like music and
lyrics promo time.
Yeah.
For a little bit she did that. Yeah. So,
it’s like throwing me off because it
doesn’t look like it’s from now.
It’s It is kind of weird. Um the
commercial is really sweet. Of course,
there are like multiple clips of other
celebrities, but I like I like seeing
something new. I mean, obviously. Yeah,
of course. And then like just to go
along with all that, she also co-hosted
a gratitude celebration event at actress
Marlo Thomas’s house. And Marlo is the
national outreach director for St. Jude.
So, they had like some patients there
and um there’s not a lot of info of what
went on, but uh really nice that she’s
taking the time to do that.
Yeah, very much so. Um very cool. St.
Jude’s doing good work out there.
Yeah, I’ve donated to them. I’m sure I
will again this year because it’s just
like I like to do that in December.
Silly like you could do it at any point,
but you know, they’re like doing the
outreach so it’s like, oh yeah, let me
do that.
Of course, it’s that time of year.
Yeah.
[Music]
Okay, so totally changing gears. Should
we get into some 1993 magazines? Uh,
well, 93 guys was just so delicious that
we didn’t get enough of it last episode
in our year- end review.
I love delicious cuz that’s so true. And
also, I feel like we maybe like
underestimated just how delicious. I
don’t know.
Also, like going through these makes me
realize like, no, I don’t think I
underestimated it. I just always go like
94, 95 in my head.
That’s true. I would agree with that for
sure. Um, but 93 is beautiful. And we
talked about both of these magazines
briefly because their photos are pretty
pretty classic ones for Drew. Um, but
the articles are both very short but
really jam-packed with some fun info.
So, we’re like, you know what? We’ll
just do both of them because they’re
quickies and
just kind of use this as a companion
piece to our last episode.
Yes. And, you know, while you’re
listening to us talk about this, just
pretend you’re like holding the magazine
in your hand.
Do you know what a magazine feels like?
I actually have Hold on.
Oh, you’re next. You have the magazine.
Well, I meant to scan them today and I
didn’t get a chance, but I have the
papers.
Nice.
People, can you hear the magazines?
Yes. Because
I love paper.
Yeah.
Yes.
We love it.
Rubbing it all over ourselves. But I
just I just have to point out like the
physicality of this and that we’re
collectors and like that of course we
have these iconic pieces in our
collection.
Yeah.
I don’t know. It’s just think it’s just
fun because I just go back to like oh my
god when I got this. Not that I remember
the exact moment but like being in the
collection is like such a huge part of
our I don’t know our journey here.
Our Drew experience. I actually do
remember getting the Vogue one. Like I
remember exactly where I was. So yeah
that’s special. That’s so cool. Okay, so
let’s start with um 17 magazine from May
How Do You Drew Episode 119 – Year in Review: 1993
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[Music]
How do you drew
[Music]
How do you drew
[Music]
Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew
This is a Drew Barrymore podcast brought
to you by the fans, friends, and
historians behind thedrewseum.com
We’re drawing
on over 25 years of Drewbie expertise
to dive into all aspects of Drew’s
world, from her personal life to her
professional career
Thanks to our sponsor and friends at
Positive Medium
I’m an
and I’m Ashley
And this week we will be
discussing the year 1993 in Drew
Barrymore’s life and career
This is a fun one
Oo, we love 93 Drew
Yes, we do
And we’ve got some stuff at
the top, guys
So, let’s get into this
So, let’s start with a little oopsy
daisy
But the facts just came out to
us, guys
This is very This is a very
weird oopsy daisy, I got to say
It’s also a cosmic coincidence, I would
say
Yes, totally
So, the day before our
last episode aired,
which was about Drew’s romantic
relationship history, we had very
briefly touched on Rodney Harvey and we
said we had reason to believe that he
was involved with her romantically in
1989 based on what we’d uncovered doing
Little Girl Lost
So the day
before that episode comes out, Billy Bob
Thornton goes on the Drew Barrymore show
again and he was his first appearance on
Drew’s show was one of our reasons for
thinking Rodney and her were involved
So he once again told the story about
first meeting Drew on the set of the TV
show The Outsiders
because she was there visiting Rodney on
the set
And he was like
both times tiptoeing around it a little
bit, right
like, “Is it okay if I say
who you were visiting
And he’s
like, “Well, you you were dating him
“
And then he says, “Rodney Harvey
” And
she’s like, “Oh
” And she had a big
reaction like, “Oh, you know, cuz he’s
passed away
” And then she said, “No, we
were actually just friends
” And he’s
and Billy Bob’s like surprised
And he’s
like, “What
” Uh, like he’s almost gonna
argue with her
and he says something about like
something that happened at a party and
then she just said, “No, he was actually
dating my friend
” And he also said
like, “Well, he definitely wanted to be
with you
So, okay
I don’t This is almost like a
correction for our Patreon because we
pretty much identified Rodney as
somebody in the book and now I’m
thinking that could be incorrect
And it does sort of track with one
of the National Enquirer articles that
Rodney was actually dating Ellie Keats,
who was Drew’s friend and roommate at
the time in 1989
So, we don’t know
And
I I like how on the show Drew is like,
“Boys are so confusing
” Like as if as
she’s like, “I didn’t know he liked me
“
Something like that
But I also feel
like, okay, maybe it is true that he
dated Ellie Keats, but maybe it’s also
true that they did and she’s just like,
that’s true
Billy Bob seemed to have a
very clear idea of something that had
happened, which would make it seem like
they weren’t just
like, well, he wanted to be with you
I
gotta say, um,
he’s like, I saw you making out
No, I’m
just kidding
I do find it so interesting that this
has come up both times
like both times he’s been on and
and you’re right in the same kind of
like should I say who it is
Um yeah, so there’s a little oopsy daisy
but we’re
put an asterisk by Rodney’s name and you
know that’s probably all we’ll ever know
because Drew apparently does not think
they dated
So that changes literally
the episode we just released
God damn it, Drew
No, just kidding
How dare you
How dare you have facts
about in your brain about you that we
don’t have
what a weird what a weird like life that
we live that this is like
we’re like hot facts about 1989 and like
hot hot tips the tea about 1989 is 89
All right
So I guess we can move on to
things that Drew loved
She might have
loved Rodney
No, I’m just kidding
Let’s uh let’s hear what
Drew’s proclaimed her love for this this
uh past week
I love love
All right
Drew loves burgers
She loves when people are pulled
She always wants to know what the people
have to say, you know
She loves tartar sauce
Biscuits and gravy
The red, yellow, green flag game that
they see when they play that
Yeah, that
is a fun one
She loves chili oil
A Douglas
her little doggy
She loves storytelling
payoffs
I like that one
She loves a state fair
Theme parks
An ottoman
Apple juice
Rosemary
I love rosemary
And then,
similar to chili oil, she also loves
chili crisp
Should we go see what’s in
the mail
You’ve got mail
Yeah, we have some cool ones
We have a
new review on Apple Podcast
And before
we get to that, we’re going to mention
this
So, the film history podcast,
Verbal Diorama
Um I listened to her Donnie
Darko episode
So, it’s this um woman
named M
She’s from the UK and she is so
like I want to just like mention this
real quick
She’s so like clean and
snappy and like gives you this
information and she’s like telling you
everything
Boom boom boom
And it’s
really easy to follow and it’s fun to
listen to cuz normally I like um a
two person podcast
And she just
like gives you the info in such a great
way and her voice is so lovely
So shout
out to M for being great and her Donnie
Darko episode was so good
But she does a recommendation
in her newsletter for podcast of the
week and she chose us
A that’s so cool
Okay, so she said for her
podcast of the week, she said, “This is
where I recommend a podcast I’ve
listened to this week and an episode you
might enjoy
Speaking of legends, Drew
Barrymore is one of the Hollywood’s most
beloved of all legends and I’m a huge
fan of quote my girl Drew unquote
“
Slightly bigger fans of Drew are Ann and
Ashley
So much so they have a whole
podcast dedicated to Drew Barrymore
How
do you Drew
They
also have a kick-ass podcast episode on
one of my personal favorites, Charlie’s
Angels 2000, which is celebrating its
25th anniversary this year
She said,
“Anne and Ashley also run the Drew, the
internet’s longest running Drew
Barrymore fan site
They have over 25
years of Drewbie expertise, and they’ve
even met the delightful Miss Barrymore
in person
” That’s some serious
credentials for any podcast
I like that
little line
Yeah, me too
And then this this fun little end
She
said, “If you want something new and you
too love Drew, this podcast and its crew
is for you
” It’s true
like like new jingle
Do we need like
this podcast
for you
That was That was terrible
Thank you so much
Verbal diorama
Go
check them out
Thank you, M
That was really sweet
We
We love a little shout out and a
recognition of the work that was done
Like that’s really Thank you
And then, as I mentioned, we also
have a new Apple podcast review
Thank
you so much
This is from Staceface
McGee
Could be my friend Stacy from
Blockbuster Wives
I have a feeling
Uh
the title is best Drew podcast there is
And Staceface writes, “These drewbies
really know their stuff and pour hours
of research into every episode
Plus,
they are also so hilarious and fun
“
Thank you, Staceace McGee
And we love an Apple podcast review
So,
yes, we do
We were way overdue
This is your cue for a review
M, look what you started
You have turned us into rhyming
monsters
There’s a verbal diorama
happening over here
Okay, so um let’s go back in time for
this week in Drew history
Okay, you know I love talking about
these awards in December 5th, 1987
in a sequence of years that Drew
attended the youth and film awards
And
I just find these like endlessly
fascinating
There’s just something
about 80s child stars that is just
it’s crazy
And like the people that
like they’re all people we recognize and
know even today
I was they still do
these awards
Did you know that
No, I was just going to say like I
wonder if this is still a thing
Yeah, they’ve rebranded but I was
looking at like the last one that had a
list of all the like nominees and I
literally didn’t know a single name
So, it’s not what it was and that’s
probably good
Child stardom is not a
positive thing
I think there’s just so
much content that it’s hard to have like
stars as big as there were at a certain
time, right
Like this is Yeah
the 80s
pinnacle
So, these were held at the
Hollywood Palladium and they were hosted
by Chad Allen and Patrick Dempsey, which
I thought was kind of fun because later
on Drew would be such good friends with
his wife Jillian
Yeah, that is funny
Drew was nominated
for best young female superstar in
television for Babes in Toyland because
I guess technically that’s considered
television but she lost to Alyssa Milano
and she was pictured with her peers
there like Wil Wheaton, Corey Haim,
Amanda Peterson
There is a picture of
her with Lala Sloatman and Donovan
Leitch
And I found that interesting
because they were both like from the
Zappa House crew that we just kind of
like found out in the last year that
Drew spent a lot of time there in this
year 87
So I just thought that was very
like validating to see
You’re like, “Oh, this is like
evidence
“
Totally
evidence of this
And I feel like, you know, this is
1987
It’s such an awkward time for her,
but she does look really cute
is like
just very plain black dress but like
kind of adult
Yeah, she’s definitely trying to look a
little like more grown up
She’s got her
little string of pearls
She still have her braces
It’s hard to
tell, but yeah, it is so fun
And also
that she was nominated for Babes in Toy
Land is so I know that movie
that’s comical, right
Just if you guys haven’t seen it,
Christmas is coming
Give yourself a
little gift and watch Babes in Toy Land
And then come back and listen to our
episode laughing about it
I think what
she told when Keanu Reeves was on, I
think she called it that that
masterpiece, Babes in Toilet
Oh my god
It’s good stuff
So, I guess we can come back to the
present for a minute before we go back
in time again
We’re always jumping around
Let’s talk about what’s new with
Drew
Here we go with the news, everybody
Okay, so we have a new MSC Cruise Line
commercial coming because Drew was
spotted filming one with Orlando Bloom
actually on the ship in the Bahamas
Um,
so maybe another Super Bowl ad
Like the
timing could work out for that
That
would be a good guess
Um,
I bet you’re right
We’ll see what that’s like
And then the only other thing is that
Hollywood Squares has an official
premiere date for season 2 and that will
be on January 7th, 2026
Looking forward to that
We’ve really
enjoyed this show
If you guys haven’t
heard us, like love on it
Like really
exciting
I was kind of bummed to see
that they used a promo photo from the
previous season, but
same you know me with like reusing
photos
And of course, we’re excited to see
how cute her outfits are cuz every
season they’ve had such fun with her
fashion
So like
Yeah
Her outfits and her hairstyles are
always different
It’s going to be
really fun
Have we had any like peaks of that
Like
very small
There’s been like maybe a
couple pictures
So, it’s going to
be a lot of new excitement
And I also really liked when they would
do that little speed round where they’d
have a fact about everybody, but we
would I would like collect them all and
we do it
I’m excited to do that again
Yeah, me too
They always had
some fun little like things that even if
they didn’t trip us up, it’s like that’s
a good one for something to trip
somebody else about
Drew,
a non-expert
Like wasn’t one of them like she hates
yoga which
Yeah
All right, so um I guess
we’re ready to go back in time again
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All right, so shall we jump into our
weekly topic of 1993
Ah, this is a good one
Like we’ve I
feel like we’ve definitely done 92, 94,
95, 96
Like we need to get 93 in here
Sometimes that happens, guys
We’re just
like going with our heart on what topic
we we discuss
Which is funny because like most of the
time we do things so like perfectly
chronologically like we want everything
organized just right
But like with the
podcast, no, we’re just like whatever we
feel
Imagine if we had like started
from birth and we were just like going
through chronological
No,
that wouldn’t be nearly as fun
So, if you haven’t listened
to the ones that bookend this, go ahead
and check those out
But, uh, let’s let’s jump in and set the
scene for this year because there are a
couple We like to kind of give like the
this is what she’s going through
This
is how she’s going into the year, right
So, we’re just off of Drew’s like
really big comeback year of 1992 where
she starred in the movie Poison Ivy,
which was released that year, and she
had received a Golden Globe nomination
for Gun Crazy
So, like big stuff
She’s
coming back and she’d been receiving
like quite a bit of media attention
because just a couple years ago, you
know, she released Little Girl Lost
So,
like she’s still on her way up from
that
And it’s kind of crazy
It’s only
like two, three years
Still on her way up from that
also like finally even getting parts
Like for a while it was like get out of
here rehab girl
Like we’re not even
going to consider you
So it’s a big
deal
Like you’re trouble no matter what
But she’s Yeah
She’s getting like
respected again, right
Like people are
recognizing that she’s she’s
not messing around
It’s
the first Renaissance
She’d also just suffered a really
painful breakup from Jamie Walters
Again, we mentioned it in our last
episode
They’d been briefly engaged and
she had just wrapped up shooting the Amy
Fischer story in Vancouver and those
things kind of coincided like he broke
up with her before right before she came
back to LA from that
So she as far as
like that stuff goes she was like in a
lot of pain with that
And um we already mentioned it
Make sure you listen to episode 1992 to
kind of lead up to this moment
Um Drew
had also turned 18 at the beginning of
1993
So officially an adult despite all
the stuff that she’d gone through that
would like make her like 20 years older
than she actually is
And for her 18th birthday, she said she
had celebrated by playing mini golf with
a small group of friends, which I love
that cuz it feels like what she would do
now, you know
Like that it would be
mini golf, but it would be like her
friends like
surrounding herself in people who make
her feel safe
I don’t know
And this is also like I think
that’s a great like symbol of just how
she was really into simple living at
this time like doing simple things
She
was not going out to on the town anymore
cuz even like post-rehab you know she’s
still like being seen at all these clubs
in LA in 1990
Like she’s still doing
that lifestyle and now she’s like
scaling back and staying home
I wonder
if there’s part of her that felt like
she didn’t need to like be at the events
because she’s like I don’t know
Do you
think part of that going to events was
her like making herself visible like I’m
here again
I don’t know
So maybe she’s
like comfortable like I don’t have to
try so hard
I don’t know
But also Yeah
There’s that part of her that just wants
to like
I don’t know settle down
Probably
and she’d been trying to do that
with Jamie Walters, but uh didn’t work
out
So, she moved out of the house that
they shared because they were, you know,
it was too painful for her
And she
moved in with her friend Justine
Baddeley, who is still her good friend to
this day
Um she’s done casting for a
bunch of Flower Films projects
So, they
moved in together to an apartment and
then later into a house that she bought
with the money from guests, which
happens this year
We’ll talk about in a
minute
And we don’t have the details on
that yet, but we might be uncovering
some interesting information about this
house
Yeah,
put a pin in that
So, also kind of uh part of the
little tidbits about this year, Drew
drove a black Bronco with a daisy
sticker on the back of it
And there’s a
fun chapter about this this car and like
a moment with this car in Wildflower
kind of shows her like spunk at that
time
If you haven’t read it,
make sure you check that out or uh
eventually we’ll be going over
Wildflower on uh Patreon
So, we’ll be talking more about that
Bronco one day
I’m excited to do that
And you kind of mentioned this like
slowing down
So, she was like she was
kind of talking about how she was
spending most of her time at home with
her friends and she’s like making art,
cooking dinner, watching Melrose Place
indoor kid
kind of like probably the
first time in her life she was just sort
of being like a normal simple person,
you know,
right
Which probably felt really novel to her
I just can’t help but think it has to do
partly with like maybe the hustle was a
little bit less, you know
I think that’s a great great
observation
Should we get into her look a little bit
because this is a beautiful year
So
Drew had short blonde hair this year
Really short
not pixie short, but like
just past her chin
And she kind of
alternated between having it
straightened and then having it really
curly, like almost into the woo woo
bouncy that we would see the following
year,
right
Um her style kind of ranged between
baggy men’s wear and then also like
these glam sort of dresses with pearls
depending on what sort of event she was
going to
She actually didn’t go to very
many events this year, which is why
we’re doing this
Uh sometimes we do our
year and new reviews like in January she
did this, in February she did this
But
these years where she’s kind of hidden
away, we have to do a little
differently
A little differently
So it’s not like
she did nothing for these months
And
I love the juxtaposition of this like men’s
wear glam
Like it also I feel like
she’s always kind of done that
She
always likes to be
She still does that
You know, it’s like she has these
like extremes that she’s sort of willing
to be part of her public image like
Yeah
She’s a chameleon, right
Well, always
So, I love it
I love I love the
pictures you have in our notes
Just
like seeing the side by side of like
total glam like literally with the
pearls, which I feel like is I don’t
know
So pretty
I love it
So many good like fun looks
too, just candid-wise
And I mean, we’ll get into it, but
like this is the year she filmed Bad
Girls, which to me ranks as her one of
her most beautiful she’s ever looked
So
like she was just stunning this year
Um, and then this the last thing about
what she looked like
She had five
tattoos at this time
This was the final
year without her butterfly on her belly
because we know she got that sometime,
we’re gonna say in early 1994 because
she doesn’t have it in the guest photos,
but she does have it by the time Bad
Girls comes out in ’94,
right
And it’s significant because that
feels like something that’s so probably
because there was so much like burying
her skin like in the coming years that
we really
baring baring the baring Barrymore um
that we really like the butterfly was so
part of her look after
So I
absolutely
and also what five tattoos at the time
and what’s the count now
Oh man, what are we up to
I think
it is 14 because I think she said 14 too
early and then she got her 14th
Typical Drew
In her mind, she already had it maybe
Anyway, let’s get back to 1993
So,
relationships, we we touched on this a
little bit
Our last episode was all
about it, but let’s just touch on it
So, we mentioned that she was like fresh
off this breakup from Jamie Walters,
which when we did our rep episode about
relationships, like this may have been
like the first like real heartbreak that
Drew had
Um, and she stayed single
throughout this whole year, at least
like what we understand in the public
eye
Um,
until Billy Bob Thornton comes on, she
tells something else different that
messes us up
No, just kidding
Just a friend
Um, so then, uh, we also
know that Drew initially met Eric
Erlandson in late 1993, but their
relationship didn’t begin until summer
of the following year
So, we kind of
know that there was at least some kind
of uh
the mac and cheese vomit had occurred
and and that laid the groundwork
If you don’t know what
we’re talking about, make sure you
listen to the relationships episode
I’m
sure we’ve mentioned this many times
Hopefully, a lot of you are
So many episodes we have about the them
meeting
So, let’s get into her
career
So, it’s funny because this feels
like a quiet year until you really start
digging into it
So, Drew filmed two things in 1993
The
first is Wayne’s World 2
So, she just
has a very small cameo, and we we’ll do
an episode about all her cameos pretty
soon, so maybe we’ll get more into this
But
they filmed sometime in summer of 93
I
have to imagine she only needed to be
there for the good day, right
Like,
she’s literally in a five minute scene
Not even three minutes, two minutes
It’s so short
I don’t know
You could
pull up the YouTube clip of the whole
thing
I think it is like three minutes,
right
Um, and we recently dug into this
I
don’t remember why you asked if we
I don’t remember
I feel like I told I
told my partner that she was in Wayne’s
World, too
And he’s like, “Why
” And
what I said what I said to him was,
“Well, she’s a big star
” And then I was
like, “Well, at that time,
yeah,
like her star was kind of Anyway
What did you find out
Knowing me, research girl, once an idea
is in my head
I can’t let it go
I was
like, I wonder if the DVD has any
information
So, I throw the DVD
on with the commentary and the
commentary was just kind of like, oh,
there’s Drew Barrymore
She’s so
beautiful
And I was like, oh,
that’s not helpful
Then I threw on like
one of the um featurettes on the DVD and
Lauren Michaels comes on and he says
that he really wanted Drew in the film
because he was a big fan and he didn’t
think that they could get her which is
so interesting cuz like yeah that’s
wild
But then he credits Mike Meyers
and his then wife Robin with quote
unquote solving that
So I guess they asked her to be in it
I
mean as if she would say no to that
I
can’t even imagine a world at which 93
Drew would say no to being in Wayne’s
world too,
right
Like it feels like ex like she’d
be like, “Oh my god, hell yes
” I also
love to imagine that she got a charming
call from like Mike Myers
Like she
would call other people to try to get
them to like her films
She’s like,
“One day I’m going to do this
That’s a great idea
” Mike Myers and
Robin
Um, but yeah, I uh I love that we
have that just that little bit of info
that like it was Lauren that was pulling
for it
Like that’s so cool
Um, and then she also,
you mentioned this, but she filmed Bad
Girls this year
Just to give a little
bit of info about this, um, it was
originally, it originally started to
film in early July of this year, 1993,
with Tamara Davis directing and a
totally different script than what ended
up kind of coming out of this movie
After three weeks of filming, a new
director was brought in, Jonathan
Kaplan,
uh, to start from scratch and rewrite
the whole script
It’s crazy
Um, and the actresses were sent
to the what they called cowboy camp uh
before filming resumed in late August
and then they finished filming in
November
I’m so curious
I would love
to see anything that was filmed before
they changed it
What would that be
It’s kind of I’m sure it had
such a different vibe from everything
that we know
Like
whenever we want to actually like it’s
not one of my favorite movies
whenever
we want to sit down and actually do an
episode
There’s so much like dirt
behind the scenes of that one
Like even
just to get this timeline locked in
I
was like searching newspaper archives
and like figuring out like when did
things happen and cuz Drew will
sometimes make it sound like she filmed
that movie for seven months, which it
might have felt like that at the time,
but this is pretty like I feel good
about these dates
This like kind of definitive sort of
end
I love that you mentioned
like this year is busier because what
let’s talk about all the things that
were released
If I was just going off top of my head,
I would say two movies, maybe three,
came out in 93, but it’s actually a lot
more than that, you guys
It’s kind of weird
Again, thank God for newspapers
com and
Lindsay Blake for letting me have access
to her account
Thank you, Lindsay
Also, I’m just going
to say before we even get in, three
things came out in January
Okay, so the very first one is of
course the Amy Fischer story
I
know that came out that year,
right
So it aired on ABC in on January 3rd and
there were dueling Amy Fisher movies at
this time
There were three of them alto
together and Drews ended up being the
highest rated
So and it was also like
some people said it was the best one
Like it was definitely like the winner
of this little race that these networks
were having
So wild to imagine
Also the like turnaround time for
that
Like I feel like they filmed it
and it came out like a month later or
something
And when did this thing like the actual
thing happened with Amy Fisher
It was
like the year before, right
Oh yeah, for sure
It was May 19th of
’92
So literally within less than six
months
They would have been filming this
like probably like 3 4 months
after that happened
Oh my god
Just so weird to think about
Um, if you guys want to hear us talk
about this one more, we have a really
fun episode with our friends from Movies
That Made Us Gay
Um, it was from the
end of 2023
It was
Well, you’re exactly right because it
would came out December 5th of 2023
It’s our episode 63 if you want to check
that out
So almost two years ago
we did that episode
Like that’s so
wild
It’s a very fun one
And uh Pete from
movies that made us gay like really
remembers this time period with the AA
Fisher stuff
So he was like a really
fun resource for all of that
And of course we get into a lot
of the nitty-gritty
So if you want to
hear more about that
Um also released in 1993 was Motorama
Um, Motorama Gus
Gus,
basically a cameo, right
Like
Oh, yeah
So, it was extremely limited
release January 13th of 1993 in
theaters
Like, we didn’t even know it
was in theaters, right
Definitely thought it was a straight to
video,
right
And it had been filmed in late
1990, early 91
So, it took quite a bit
took a bit of time to come out
Always a bad sign,
right
I don’t even really remember
anything about the film
Yeah, I watched
the whole thing once, but she’s
beautiful in it
She’s a fantasy girl
She’s standing on the beach calling out
to the main character in his dream
You haven’t won yet
That’s pretty much it
Um, so this is kind of an interesting
one
So, as we mentioned, Gun Crazy had
come out the year before on Showtime,
but they ended up doing a limited
theatrical release starting in LA on
January 20th, 93, and later then
expanded to nine other theaters
throughout the country
And I don’t know
like were they going for like some sort
of like to be eligible for Oscars
I
don’t know like what the thought was
there
Probably,
but um that’s very unusual for that to
happen
And so it feels notable like
even though it had come out the year
before, I feel like we should include it
in this list of things released in 93
I feel like it has to do something with
the fact that it was getting awards
chatter
Like I’m trying to think of the
but I can’t think of what it is, but it
was getting like there was excitement
around it and her performance
So I’m
not surprised that like whoever’s
decision it was the studio was like put
it out there
Um but I bet you’re right
We
also have No Place to Hide which was
released in on April 16th of 1993 in
theaters again
Can’t believe it
I thought that was a
straight to video for sure
And this one also had been filmed
almost three years before in summer of
1990 under the name Temporary
It’s weird like I almost wonder were
they trying to capitalize on Drew’s like
newfound success by suddenly
releasing everything
like they’re
holding on to this movie for three years
and then all a sudden, oh, Drew
Barrymore is like suddenly like a name
that people might be interested in
Let’s go ahead and put this out
Maybe they had a hard time releasing
them
Yeah, that too
But I also like I feel
bad for her that like these weird little
things she did when she was just trying
to like get some work are then coming
out,
right
Doesn’t really feel fair
No, it doesn’t
But maybe that’s one of
the reasons why the Renaissance was so
much of a renaissance is like suddenly
all the stuff that like had been like in
waiting backlogged
Suddenly it was just like flooding the
media
Like that’s amazing
Because it continues
Um then we
have Doppelganger
That was a direct
video
It was released on May 26 of 93
Um and had been filmed only the year
prior
And we have a really fun episode
about that one, too, if you guys want to
hear it
Because, as Drew famously said,
you’d rather stick pins in your eyes
than watch that movie
But if you want
to hear us talk about, check out episode
90
We also have this documentary that I
think we only found out about like last
year or something
I feel like it was
really um she does a small voice
narration in a documentary called Roots
of Row and it aired on TV on November
29th of 1993
So, it’s again, it’s
another small thing, but notable because
yet another thing that came out in 1993
And then, uh, Wayne’s World 2, like talk
about a quick turnaround, came out on
December 10th
So, they’d only been
filming it over the summer and then it
comes out in December
This is
like just what a world
Um, and of
course, Drew’s small cameo as Bjergan
Kjergan made quite a big impression and
it kind of like furthered along this sex
symbol status that she was having at
this time very intentionally on her
part, right
Um, I feel like there’s a lot I always
see comments like this was like a sexual
awakening for people, her little part in
this scene
I mean, she is she’s beautiful
Beautiful
The way they dressed her up
for this like very quick cameo,
the like crocheted top so perfectly
early 90s in the best way possible
She’s so good
She’s stunning
We’ve already talked
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Um, okay
So now let’s get into some of
the TV and event appearances
I’m sure
many of them are around promoting all
this various stuff, right
Maybe not promoting Motorama, but
some of the things that we mentioned
So, um, in January, so here we are at
the beginning of the year kind of going
through chronologically these events
Um, so January 20th, she appeared on the
Arsenal Hall show where she discussed
Amy Fischer, her difficulties of fame,
her breakup with Jamie, and the movie
Gun Crazy
I don’t know if I’ve even
seen this appearance
This was a very new find like within the
last few months that this like surfaced
and we will link to it on the episode
page
It’s really cute
Again, she’s
doing the like baggy men’s wear kind of
look for this and love it
It’s just it’s just so good
God, Drew,
why are you so cute
This one little
picture in our notes
I’m like, she’s
really cute
Yeah, that’s why I was
like, I don’t recognize this
Yeah, go watch it
Just a few days after
that, she attended the Golden Globe
Awards
So, she had been nominated for
best performance by an actress in a
limited series anthology series or
motion picture made for television
Is
that a long enough title for you
That’s too much
For the movie Gun Crazy
And that was a
big deal for her
Like this is she’s not
award showgirl like you know her one
award was the youth and film awards from
82 and being Yeah
being recognized for
this, not even just being recognized,
being recognized for this movie, which
she was so passionate about, but also
like during this comeback time, like
she’s blacklisted a couple years before
and now she’s got a Golden Globe
nomination,
right
Um, so we have a quick little clip of
her on our just discussing that
nomination
I’m so honored and grateful
I mean, I’m
up
I’m put in the category with
Katherine Hepburn,
Jessica Lange,
hello
Uh, Kyra Sedwick, and Laura Dern
It’s
all five of us in in the um little
thing
And um I mean to be put with
those women
is the biggest honor in itself
I don’t
really care if I win
It’d be nice, but
um it’s just so flattering and it makes
me feel so good and proud
A
I know
And also the fact that she was
nominated alongside Jessica Lang
Isn’t that weird
Who she ended up beating out when they
were nominated for Great Gardens
Kind of strange, huh
It’s It’s just wild to think of like she
probably would have never imagined she
would be like working alongside that
person when she said this person’s name
Oh, that’s true
Um, she did end up
losing to Laura Durn, but still so cool
that and so she’s there and she’s, you
know, very glam that night
I saw like
some newspaper thing that gave her like
the best hair of the night
Um, so they called it like a Sharon
Stone dew
She does have like
very nice blonde kind of slicked back
flippy hair and pearl choker and just a
simple black dress
Um, and then we also
know that she presented an award because
we have a random screen grab from
something
Um, but can’t find any
details of what award that was or who
she’s presenting with
I don’t recognize
the guy in this horrible quality
picture
Yeah, I don’t feel like I do either, but
he looks sort of like the guy who plays
um Richard on Sex in the City
Oh, he’s in Boys on the Side
Doesn’t it look like him
Yeah, maybe
We should put this picture in the
gallery and if anybody recognizes who
this might be, let us know
There we go
I tried to look into it and after a
while I was like, this is really a waste
of my time
There were so many of the
like awards on YouTube and like that one
was not there
Like so annoying
I went through all every single one of
them
Um on February 1st, uh Drew
attended the CFDA fashion awards which
stands for Council of Fashion Designers
of America
She attended with the
photographer Matthew Rolston
Looking
super glam again
I I like I love her
look here with the like bright red lips
She looks beautiful
It’s like a perfect red
It’s also fun
that like fun air quotes fun her and
Matthew are like holding cigarettes and
cigarette packs in like all the
pictures,
right
Always got to have the cigarettes on the
red carpet
Always was an accessory that she had at
all times
for quite a while
Um then on May
19th she attended the premiere of the
movie Sliver starring the
aforementioned Sharon Stone and once
again Matthew Ralston came with her to
that
Uh she worked with him so many
times in the early 90s and so it’s not
like a surprise that they were friends
and hanging out,
right
He’s probably part of her early gay guy
crew
probably
Um and Drew wore a pretty like iconic
look to this one
She had the round blue
lens sunglasses and a Mickey Mouse
backpack
And I just feel like people
always remember this one
And she’s also got like one
of the like probably hemp chokers like
on her neck like
Yeah
Little Daisy Hemp
Speaking of clippings, I feel like
we have like tons and tons of clippings
of this look
Yeah, for sure
I mean, this is like one
of the only maybe the only movie
premiere she attended this year, I
think
which is funny because she had so
many released
Um but she is asked on the red carpet
about what she thinks about Sharon Stone
breaking ground for other actresses
I think she’s definitely opening
up new doors for people to like I mean I
think she’s really outspoken and I
really respect that about her and I
think the more power to her, you know,
so I’m excited
I mean she knows Sharon Stone from
Irreconcilable Differences
I think that
was Sharon’s like debut
Oh
yeah
So that’s kind of cool
And Sharon
was at the Poison Ivy premiere, I feel
like, in support of Drew
So, yeah,
really cute
That is really sweet
Okay, so now we get on to September
13th
Drew was on literally the first
episode of Late Night with Conan
O’Brien, which is always so cool
Like,
I know
I love that little nugget
I
feel like she never mentions that
Like,
she should really like brag about that
out of it
Um, and once again,
Lauren Michaels seems to have been
responsible for this, so that’s really
cool to know, too
Like, how did we find
that out
I feel like she might say it
in the appearance
Or she said it at some other point at
some point
I remember that fact and
you’re just going to have to trust my
memory on that
It makes sense, right
I mean,
yeah
So, she flew in from the Bad Girls set
specifically to appear on the show
Um,
she discusses Amy Fischer and the guest
campaign on the episode
I just have to
say really quickly about her look
She’s
got like this red sort of like
Chinese appropriation dress, but it also
feels like from like the ‘9s into like
the 2000s like
those just
right silky Chinese dresses
Yeah,
she looks beautiful
And we’ve got her
like basically bouncy woo woo woo woo
woo bouncy hair going on here
Um I love it
Gorgeous
And and it’s so I mean if any
of you know like Con O’Brien’s show I
feel like it’s like the awkwardness of
what that was intentionally but like
times 20
like literally the first episode but I
love it like Conan’s great on the first
episode of his show
It’s true
It’s super funny
He had been writing for Saturday Night
Live forever
So
yeah I think Yeah
But if you guys
haven’t for some reason seen this
there’s two versions on YouTube
If you
want we could link to both of those
Um,
like there’s the official one that his
company or his brand put out, but then
there’s a longer one from our friends at
Drew Barrymore Daisy that has a little
bit extra of Drew
Check it out
Thanks very much for coming on my first
show
Thank you for having me
It was a real
honor
Thank you
All right
Okay, so then we
get to December 8th, the Billboard Music
Awards
So Drew was basically like kind
of urged into doing this by her
publicist or whoever because she is
really like I just want to stay home at
this point in her life
Um but she
agreed to go and so she presents the
award for the number one rock artist and
she does it alongside Mike Myers and
Dana Carvey
So, obviously this is also
kind of like a Wayne’s World 2 promo,
but their section was pre-taped and so
it’s actually it’s like they make a
comedy out of the fact that it’s
pre-taped cuz they’re like asking Drew
questions and then there’s like awkward
pauses and then they’re like pretending
to respond
It’s it’s pretty cute
We’ll
definitely link to that
Um we and then
she presents the award to Aerosmith
So,
let’s hear that
Absolutely
Live from London’s Hard Rock
Cafe, here is Billboard’s number one
rock artist of the year, Aerosmith
Aerosmith
It’s also like she trips over her words
when she first starts introducing it and
she’s like, “Of course
” Like, you can
just hear her brain like, “Why can’t you
ever be cool
“
I love it
That’s why we love you, Drew
We We need you to be you at all times,
and you are you at all times
Um, the funny thing about this one, and
oh, I guess we didn’t talk about her
look, but she has like a silky white
long dress on, and this is where her
like 94 curls are starting to really
show up
Um, but so the next day, rumors came out
about her dating Billy Idol supposedly
and about her having her quote down
there pierced
So then she was just
like, I’m swearing off going to events
And the quote that she gave to movie
line was, “I’m like that’s it
No more favors
No more nothing
I am
never going out again
” And as we
reported in our year in review 94, she
literally didn’t go to any public events
that whole year
So, she really meant
she meant it
Yeah, she meant it
Um,
all right
So, some more fun from this
year
Of course, every year the photo
shoots
1990s photo shoots,
right
and we’re talking about things
that were released in 1983
She did a
lot more photo shoots that year that
maybe didn’t come out till the next
year
Um, but yeah, you can listen to
episode 104 talking about more of the
ones that probably were shot this year,
but this is how we do this
Yeah, it’s kind of like ah it’s that
thing of like I kind of want to mention
that she has her first photo shoot with
Mark Seliger this year, but like it
didn’t come out until 94
So, we’re just
talking about the releases of 93
So, let’s um first
just talk about GQ, which was released
in March
Um it was not a cover feature
It was an inside feature only um
photographed by Jeffrey Thurnher
Um and I’m
I mean I like this
I like some of this
Yeah, same
Not a huge fan of her hair
No, it’s very 92 hair
I’m certain it
was done in ’92 because if it came out
if it’s a March issue, it came out in
February, which means like there’s no
way they did it fast enough back then
Um, so I feel like my
favorite of the shoot probably the stuff
on the beach
Those are the ones I love
But the
ones in the black bra on the sidewalk
smoking a cigarette are the ones that
like get shared all the time
What’s What’s the word like
They
are
oversaturated
Over I mean, yeah, the the market has
been oversaturated with those pictures
I mean, yeah, she’s she’s in a bra and
she’s looks sexy and she’s got a
cigarette in her mouth
So, of course,
like
that’s going to attract some people,
right
It’s very on brand for the bad girl
Drew,
right
Um, then for the New York Times
for their March 7th issue, they did a
little article about her and the
photographs were done by Mojgan B. Azimi
Sorry if I butchered that
Um, these are
really cool where she has like a really
cute daisy choker necklace and she just
she just kind of looks like a badass in
these
But beautiful
And I I think I feel like she just
I was going to say I feel like she like
dressed herself for them
Something
about them feels like casual
I totally
agree
Um, yeah, I do love them
And again, if you guys are like, ah, I
want to see, we always have an episode
page with the links and the gallery
So,
photos that we’re talking about, you can
check them all out on the howdoyoudrew
You cannot do it justice without the
visual
The visual, you got to see it
Um, more beauty here from 17 magazine
A
cover feature, the first cover feature
of this year released in May
Um, she
was photographed by the aforementioned
Matthew Rolston at a place called Caffe
Tiesto or Tiesto
That’s how you say that,
I think, in in San Francisco
Um, these
pictures are so cool
She has a very
Marilynesque Marilyn Monroeesque feel to
her, like the way they did her hair
Um, I love that she’s got like multiple
different outfits and like almost like
feels like she’s playing different
characters in the different pictures
Um, almost all actually looks like all
the ones that are inside the magazine
are either black and white or sepia
tone, which is also like interesting for
17 magazine
I know these feel very high fashion for
17, right
I was just thinking like where would I
maybe expect these to be like I don’t
know, not 17
More something a little
more adult
Um, and the cover is
great, too
I mean,
they’re beautiful
You got to see these if you haven’t seen
them
I also feel like this was sort of
like giving her an opportunity to be
presented as something opposite as not
the bad girl in the black bra and the
cigarettes
Cuz she looks more classy
She looks Yeah
classy and like adult
They’re great
Um but then we go
back to a little bit more fun bad girl
looks for details from the June issue
We covered this in our episode 38 and
it’s one of our most popular episodes
It’s a really good article
So, I don’t
know if that’s has something to do with
it, but um yeah, it’s definitely worth
taking a listen to, but she is on the
cover for this one with the word sex
written across her upside down laying on
the floor legs
So, you know, that’s a
little bit more in line with this time
period
But I love these photos
There’s
only a couple of them
They’re all black
and white, but uh again, badass and
beautiful
And the photographer is Albert
Watson
These are really cool
Particularly like
the um leopard print one
I feel like
the one where she’s wearing the leopard
print jacket and she’s at like a cafe
counter
Just crazy stunning
And then of course she just looks so
cool smoking
So this one of her wearing
like skull and crossbones
It’s also funny there’s one of her
driving and then in a couple more shoots
there’s another photo of her driving
I
always remember that being like that’s
so interesting
That was funny
I don’t think I’ve ever
really thought about that, but it is
really funny
It’s like that Bronco energy or
something
She’s bringing the Bronco energy
She does look ready to drive through a
gate in that in the one from details
Maybe they just took the photo when that
was happening
cuz I feel like I thought Well, we’ll
get to the the dirt one in a minute, but
like I feel like I always thought she
looks like she’s driving like a bus in
the dirt
The way her hands I don’t I
don’t know what it I don’t know what it
is
Anyway, um before we get to dirt
though, let’s talk about Vogue, which
was released in June
Not a cover, but
so many amazing pictures
And I have to imagine this was
such a big deal for her
Oh my gosh
Like I mean I’ve like come across in my
research just the fact that like she
couldn’t even like to get her on the
cover of Vogue was like a really big
deal and that didn’t happen till 2005
So right
like this is major
It was the first time she
worked with the incredible photographer
Ellen von Unwerth
We’ve got a whole
episode talking about their
collaborations
Um, they’ve
done some incredible work together
Some
of our favorite all time
And
just in this shoot alone, I mean, I’m
just looking at this little sample
Are
there eight
Are these all full pages
I
feel like they are
Um, I think the only one that isn’t is
the very first one
It’s like half a
page
God, they are just so incredible
Like,
how do we even summarize
like they’re
just so stunning
We’ll have to do a whole episode on this
one maybe
But they were done um at Coney Island
We should mention that
I didn’t put
that in the notes, but
Oh, yes
It’s a mixture of like things
that are black and white and some color
Um they’re just so cool
And every
single one has this like really unique I
feel like once again there’s like tons
of different like costume changes
It’s just like iconic
I I don’t feel
like we can even do it any justice by
trying to describe them
I will say I
feel like the one of her in the chair
where she’s nude, was there like a
postcard
Yeah,
that was like at a bunch of stores and
stuff
Um they’re just so great guys
You
have to look at them
Plus, we love
Ellen Von Werth and this is just like the
perfect introduction
And she always reposts whenever I tag
her in a story, she always reposts it,
which is really cool
That is really cool
So, our next one, as Ann
mentioned, is Dirt
And I I don’t even
know what this magazine was, but it was
like a boys magazine, I think
Um, it’s undated, which has always
driven me crazy, but it came out in ’93
And the photos were done by Spike Jones,
which is really cool
And Drew basically
is like half the cover
Like, she shares
it with John Singleton
So, it’s from
the nose up, it’s Drew, and from the
nose down it’s him, which is kind of
fun
I want the rest of her face
And
she does a like ask I think it’s called
like ask a girl or something
So there’s
all these like letters written in and
she responds to all these boys like with
a female perspective
It’s It’s pretty
silly
I definitely We should reread
that
I don’t even remember
And you’re
totally right
I just did a quick Google
and it was an American lifestyle
magazine targeting young men
There you go
It’s a really cool unique like the
photos are unique, the cover is unique
I feel like it took me a while to like
collect this one
Like it is kind of a
weirder one, but
you know, we’ve got some copies in the
jersey
Of course, it’s special one
Of course
All right
And we of course have to
mention I feel like one of like the
biggest things this year that so many
people remember about 93 is the guest
campaign
Um, and you can listen to episode 6 when
we talk all about it
I can’t believe it
was episode six
Like
I know that’s crazy
Um these photographs were by Wayne
Maser
Um we’ve got two different photo
shoots that are kind of used throughout
the campaign
Um one that was done at
Salt and Sea in California and another
in Miami, Florida
And they have very
distinct kind of looks to them
If
you’re familiar with them, you might
know
Um
they were first debuted in magazines in
June
And how long did those kind of
like there were magazines for like a
while
I want to say all the way up to like
early ’94
and there’s so many you guys
Yeah,
this is this is such a I mean this is a
if you listen to episode six of our
podcast I’m sure we’ll talk about like
good luck with the audio
Who knows what
that sounds like
Maybe don’t listen to it
Um but
this was huge
I mean huge for her
I
mean, I feel like like literally icon
status like you know, she’s like h so
good
She’s a guest girl
She’s like such a
guest girl and she was like amazed to
have been selected for it
Like she
thought like I am this little tiny like
I’m short and I’m like, you know, she
didn’t feel like she was guest girl
material, which is crazy because these
ads are incredible and she’s so
beautiful in them
Oh my god, we can’t
get out
Yeah, we we do really go into
detail even though it’s an like early
episode and it might not sound great
I
know I did a ton of research of like and
had some cool factoids
So, it’s worth
listening to even if it doesn’t sound
amazing
And if you’re listening to this and
you like cannot visualize
Drew Barrymore’s guess ads, please go to
our website, go to the Drewseum, look at the
pictures, and soak them in
Like,
yeah, literally just go to the
museum
com/guest if you want to see all
of the things in our collection related
to this campaign because there’s an
unbelievable amount of photos
They are
Yeah, I know I’ve said it a
hundred times, but they are rad
They
are beautiful
I feel like it’s even
hard to like choose a favorite from this
grouping
Anyway,
yeah
So, we’ve reached the end of 93 that we
thought was going to be kind of a little
year ended up being like quite a bit of
like important stuff
I mean,
yeah
And it really I think it’s it’s I mean
obviously it literally is but it’s this
interesting middle point of like okay
she’s like getting her career back up
She’s getting a lot of attention
She
hasn’t quite made the leap to like major
things happening quite yet
I mean Bad
Girls was like her first studio film in
a long time
So that’s a pretty big
thing
Like we didn’t even touch on
that
So she’s really building it back
up but she’s still like not A-list you
know
Well, that’s kind of why when I
said she’s in Wayne’s world, too,
because she was a big star, I was like,
“Yeah,
sort of like,
yeah, she’s very well known
She was
very famous, but she didn’t necessarily
have like
pull in Hollywood, you know,
she was still working on that,
right
And had, like you said, not
having done a studio film,
she had been filming all these little
things that were going to take their
time getting released
And then it
wasn’t until she had like, you know, the
big names behind her that they were just
like released, released, released
“
Yeah, it’s also, you know, I didn’t put
anything about this in here, but it’s
also worth noting that the next year she
officially founds Flower Films
So,
that’s huge
Like, yeah
Major like she’s things her
career is
really going up up up and things are
really happening and it’s just
it’s really cool that she’s only 18 like
what
it’s making me really feel like we got
to cover Flower Films at some point
soon
I’ve actually that’s like calling
to me right now
Okay, so thank you guys
for joining us down this little trip
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How Do You Drew Episode 118 – Romantic Relationships
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[Music]
How do you drew
How do you drew
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Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew
This is a Drew Barrymore podcast brought
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We’re drawing on over 25 years of Drewbie
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Thanks to our
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I’m an
and I’m Ashley
And this week we are
discussing Drew Barrymore’s romantic
relationships,
also known as Too Many Boyfriends,
which uh some lovely gentleman on
Hollywood Boulevard shouted at us once
when we were posing with Drew Star
I
don’t like her
She has too many
boyfriends
We were like, go f yourself
I think he also said like a comment
about her body as well
We’re not Yeah
Great
guy,
right
great guy that just felt like he
had to tell clearly people who are fans
of this person that he did not like her
and we were like young girls anyway
Anyway, we’re talking about her her
boyfriends
So, let’s start at the top of
the episode with uh a little bit of a
tidbit, I guess
How how would you Yeah
I just wanted to mention that I just
recently finished Demi Moore’s memoir
It’s called Inside Out, and it’s from
2019
And I just felt like there were a lot of
really fascinating parallels to Drew’s
young life
Sort of similarly to when we
read Ione Skye’s where I was just like,
“Oh, there’s weird like connections and
overlaps
” And I mean, the one thing
that really stuck out to me was sort of
how Demi’s mom was
And I I remember Drew
and Demi talking about it on Drew’s show
once,
but yeah, she like also sold childhood
photos of Demi to the press and also like
posed nude after Demi did stuff like
that
I just found it really
fascinating
Um, it was a great book
So, highly recommend
And there is a
cute little part about our girl Drew
calling and charming Demi out of
retirement for full throttle
You know,
Drew’s Drew making a phone call
The
secret weapon,
right
I just watched Ever After
again and I was thinking about the
Angelica Huston thing and I was I was
telling my friend who was with me
watching it like of course I have to
throw in some tidbits
I was like
I was like you know she like called her
and Anyway, you know the whole thing
Yeah, that’s fun
Anyways, okay
So,
let’s get into a big list of things that
Drew has proclaimed her love for
recently
I love love
All right
Drew loves her dictionaries
Oh, of course she does
I I got you covered there
I love paper
She loves hush puppies
When the girls open up to her, referring
to her daughters
She loves a beef bullion
Queso Wajaka
[Music]
Everything about her experience
She would love this podcast
She should
listen to it
She loves Pitch Perfect
And Aubrey Plaza
We know that
And she was referring to
local journalism
She loves skincare
A fake meat
We do too
A legume
Is that how you say that
You know what
I was just trying to say
this word recently and I don’t know if
it’s legume or legume
I don’t like it
Either way, it’s kind of gross sounding,
but I mean, I like eating them,
right
She loves to see people make stuff and
accomplish stuff
A
again, she should listen to this
podcast
She loves jokes
[Laughter]
A googly eye
Okay, let’s see if I can say this one
Yeah, it’s a Korean savory sweet and
spicy condiment
She loves miso
The nude lip
She loves crochet
Has she ever done it
I don’t I doubt it
Yeah, me too
She loves an old school at a glance
The
day planners
Oh, okay
She loves Jim Carrey
We knew that
listen to our Batman
Forever episode
And finally, Drew loves red hair, which
we were just talking about in our last
episode for Charlie’s Angels
Yes, we were
Everything just feeds each
other, guys
It all connects
This This podcast is a
snake eating its own tail
Um, we have a Drewism of the week
for this week
It looks like you know
those cool little isms that we do
This came from people
They did like
a random interview with her kind of in
connection to the Garnier stuff that
she’s been doing
And I just had to pull
this little paragraph because I thought
this is such a truism
You want to read
it
So, it said, “I shaved my
legs the other day and that made me feel
20 times less like a Neanderthal
I gave
myself a home pedicure
I cleaned out my
toenails and I got my gray roots done
These are things that we women don’t
carve out time for
And then all of a
sudden you look at yourself and you’re
like, I’m not just a keeper
I’m a
hairy keeper with dry skin
I’m
rocking around as if I’m a troll and I’m
not going to sink down that rabbit hole
I’m going to pull myself out
I’m going
to do what I can for myself
I really like it
Relatable
It’s so many levels
Like so good
That is so good
Drew, we love you
We
love you, Drew
No matter how hairy
All right, let’s um dive into our
mailbag
You’ve got mail
We got so many nice responses to our
Charlie’s Angels episode, which meant a
lot because like to me that’s like my
favorite episode right now that we’ve
ever done
I loved it so much
I really
enjoyed it and a lot went into it and
it’s so cool to know that people were
appreciating the work that we did
And like some people who I think
who maybe were new to us possibly
In fact, this this is the one I
pulled
This is from listener Cadu from
Brazil
And he sent us some really nice
messages and this is part of what I
pulled
Oh, so Cadu said, “I just
finished listening to your Charlie’s
Angels episode and you absolutely
crushed it
I’ve been a huge fan of the
movies for 25 years and I just wanted to
say thank you for all the love, passion,
and insight you put into celebrating
Drew
It’s genuinely inspiring
Oh,
right
I like the celebrating Drew
because that’s like all of the work that
we do across this podcast across all the
Drewseum things
Like it’s all about just
celebrating this girl that makes
everybody happy
Absolutely
That’s
what we’re here to do
Like, thank you
for getting it
Um, okay
So, now we got some stuff for
what’s new with Drew
Some little things
here and there
So, let’s get into that
Here we go with the news, everybody
Drew shared on Instagram that she
has two new animals in her menagerie
Drew Little over there
She now has
two new little birds
I think they’re
parakeets, right
Uh, you know, I
don’t really know birds
Me neither, but I looked up
parakeet and it looked like it was a
match
I think that’s correct
But had to just love the pictures of
them perching on her shoulder
I love perching birdies
If that wasn’t clear enough, that’s Drew
proclaiming that she loved perching
birdies
And that’s always been one of our like
go-to Drew quotes that we just always
say for some reason
I love perching birdies cuz it’s so her
Yes, it is
And the crowd like laughs after she says
this on Rosie O’Donnell because it’s so
sincere and like goofy
Um, she brought them out when Tracy
Morgan was on the show, but she also
brought out a snake and Jeremy, you
know, the lizard
And they didn’t like
name, like she didn’t introduce them all
by name,
right
So, the like caption on the screen said
that Jeremy, Lemon, Melanie, and Norio
were all Drew’s pets who were ecstatic
to meet Tracy
So, I’m going to guess
Lemon was the snake
I’m like going
order of appearance
and that the birds are Melanie and
Norio, but I could have that wrong
Very cute
Like this is adorable
I love
the images that we have of Drew with the
birds
Like I know
this makes me so happy
I love that you noted that her snake was
Cecil cuz I thought so too cuz she’s
like
Cecil
So I guess this must be a new
snake,
right
Unless they uh I don’t know
We named Cecil
I
feel like she brought Cecil more than
once to the show
Probably
Yeah, he’s definitely come up
Anyway, the menagerie grows
So, what else is new
Uh, this was so like random and fun on
Halloween night
I mean, everyone has
probably seen this by now, but at a
Sabrina Carpenter concert, apparently
there’s a song I don’t know Sabrina
Carpenter stuff
Sorry, guys
But
apparently there’s a song called Juno
And from what I understand, when she’s
about to do that song, she’s been quote
unquote arresting an audience member for
being too sexy
And it’s like a whole
thing
So on Halloween, she appeared to arrest
Ghost Face from Scream in the audience
And then surprise, the mask comes off
and it’s Drew under there
And the crowd
like freaks out
There’s a girl behind
her who’s just like jaw dropped to the
floor
Yeah, me too
It was very cute
Like Drew’s like very
like trying to be seductive and cute
with Sabrina
It’s so cute
Like she looks so I mean
she looks beautiful
She takes the mask
off and they’ve got like the camera
right on her
She looked lovely
I think
she was wearing like a red lip, right
Like it looks so good
It was funny
Um one of the Instagram
followers we have, Rodney, he’s like
very into Charlie’s Angels
He said it
totally gave him pulling the LL cool J
mask vibe and I was like totally
totally totally
I love how she
like pulls the mask off and like shakes
her hair out
Like there’s something
there’s also something very Charlie’s
Angels about that
Like that’s totally
what she does as LL Cool J
Like he called
it
Um that was so fun
And these Polaroids
Is this something that um Sabrina
Carpenter posted
Which is so cool
I love that
somebody was just right there with a
Polaroid camera when this happened
Um, all right
We’ve got
one more in a little new thing to talk
about before we get into the topic
This just came out
So Vince Gilligan,
who wrote Home Fries, he was just on the
Drew Barrymore show
Did you watch that
when they called Luke Wilson
It was so cute
Oh, it was so cute
I’m like, get back
together, you guys
And I like how Luke just kept talking
Like I was like, this is so cute and
sweet
I definitely like want to cover
Home Fries pretty soon
Like it keeps
coming into my orbit like for some
reason
But anyway, so um Vince has a
new TV show called Pluribus and there is
a new promo ad for it where like all of
these people are speaking to the main
character through her TV and there’s a
lot of Breaking Bad alums in it which
makes sense
But then Drew is also
randomly in there for two seconds but
it’s worth uh worth checking out
And I wonder if this promo if
there will be more of it, you know, like
this is just our promo, but we’ll have
to see
Oh, maybe
I mean, I’m I’m already interested in
seeing this
I I just finished watching
uh Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul
And I saw that he had a new show and I
was like, “Hell yeah
” And it’s one of
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Call Saul
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I guess we might be ready to talk about
uh weekly topic about things that Drew
loves
Loved uh past tense
I guess
she lives love with these fellas at one
point in her life
Absolutely
And Drew, she does
She
really does love love
Like for real,
I love love love
and it’s very interesting to see how she
went from being kind of this love
junkie
You’ll see a lot of these
relationships really go back to back
very very closely
Self-proclaimed love junkie
And then we have present
day which we’ll touch on
And you know
she’s just she’s changed guys
She’s the
same girl but she’s changed
Um,
yeah, she’s really like I feel like just
in the last several years she’s really
matured in like a
I mean she’s also I mean she’s also con
like constantly learning about herself
too
Like
I think she would agree like even in the
last like
year I feel like she would say that
Um I do want to say at the top that
these first few that we’re going to
mention
they’re pretty casual quote unquote
relationships
We’re talking about a
time when she was like 13 and 14, which
sounds so laughable as like just having
witnessed my at the time 15year-old
daughter go through her first little
breakup
And it’s like I can’t even
believe that would ever be notable
enough to be included on any list ever,
right
But she was different
She’s different at this point if you
know she’d been through a lot by 13 14
So like
we you know we’ll talk about it some age
differences that are a little shocking
and things like this
Um, but also Drew
I think always was a little um
ahead of her time whatever you or you
know good way of putting it
like wise beyond her years
So yeah we have to in include
those just to kind of keep the timeline
complete
We are leaving out any mention
of guys that maybe she was like spotted
with once or twice but she never like
considered them a relationship
We’re
leaving out like all the stupid dumb
rumored ones like, “Oh, Val Kilmer,
she’s said that’s false
” Edward Norton,
no, they were just friends
Sam
Rockwell, just friends
Like, this is
kind of we’re trying to set like the
definitive list and like not the stupid
like Buzzfeed someone just quickly
Googled and saw a picture of her on the
red carpet with someone
And I don’t know that anyone would be
able to like argue with what we are
putting out there except for Drew
herself
Like,
no one’s ever allowed to argue with us
No, just kidding
Drew Drew is always
You just feel like this is the part of
like the public
part
I don’t know
This is what she’s
made known
You know
For the most part
All right
So, should we start right at
the very beginning
With uh our famous If you’re if you
listen to Little Girl Lost coverage on
Patreon, you’re familiar with this guy
So, this is Robbie
That is his
supposedly true name
In Little Girl
Lost, she names him Bobby
really top secret name change there
Um,
so when Drew was 13, this guy was a high
school senior and she met I think she
met him in the clubs and she spent a lot
of time at his family’s house in New
York when she wasn’t getting along with
her own mom
Based on how she wrote about him and
Little Girl Lost, we both went, “Wow,
this was not a healthy relationship
There’s some toxic that went down
“
There’s like Yeah
physical and like uh
uh
emotional
physical and mental abuse
Um and a few years later, you know, she
left New York and rehab and all these
things happened
Like, of course, that’s
they didn’t stay together, guys
But, um a few years later, she
had referred to him in Details magazine
as quote, “The only guy I’ve ever truly
been in love with
” Which I was like,
“Not great
But then, you know,
she’s saying this and she’s still young,
so she’s got a lot of love to go around
Guys,
totally
Should I mention the
embarrassing lap dance story
I don’t remember what you’re talking
about
I did find it very funny that in
the last week or so, she mentioned on
her show a story about how when she was
young, she tried to do a lap dance for
her boyfriend and it was it was really
bad and it didn’t work out well
And she
said that the song was to
Blue Monday by New Order, which in
Little Cor she says is her song with
Bobby
13-year-old Drew trying to do a
lap dance for this guy
Oh my goodness
That is funny
She seems to have a sense of humor about
it
Of course
And I love when she just like
reveals these random things
But of course me with the like you
know conspiracy theory board red lines
I’m like oh that must have been him
Blue Monday you said I don’t exactly who
you’re talking about
Okay so now we’re going to talk about
somebody that is a famous person so you
just may know who he is
This is Corey
Feldman
Um Drew had a childhood crush
on him and they went on a really like
very wholesome date set up by Steven
Spielberg when she was younger
Um, and
then the spring of 1989, they went to a
few events together, like including the
Oscars
Um, we know that they were both
like recovering, like in recovery at
this time, so I’m sure that that bonded
them
I feel like Drew has referred to
this as like more like a friend, but
also
I don’t think she was like this was a
real serious relationship
You know, I
don’t even know if like were they dating
when they did 15 and getting straight
like this is such a short little window
of time and she’s 14,
right
And they had a very like when he
was on her show it was very sweet, like
very tender and sweet
Like I don’t
think we’d ever really seen them speak
to each other
So
it was a really good um
it was great
appearance and I mean he’s one of like a
few that have been on her show from this
list
That’s true
That’s true
I think there’s like three others
I’ll
just say one other thing about him is we
got that tidbit from Todd Gold that he
had sent like dozens of roses to Drew
and we thought like maybe it was maybe
around the Oscars’ timeline like based
on what they were saying I think
Um so it was kind of a fun little thing
that we learned and I was like oh that
sounds about right for like I don’t
know
Um okay we’re just going to
briefly touch on this next one
The late
actor Rodney Harvey
So, we have
speculated that Drew briefly dated him
in mid 1989
And this is based on things
that we uncovered during our little girl
lost research
And
sorry to put this behind a payroll, but
it is kind of like sensitive
information
So, if you want to know the
scoop on this one, including like some
really weird info about her mom Jade’s
involvement in this relationship, you
got to head over to our Patreon for our
little girl lost deep dive
You do
patreon
[Laughter]
Yeah, that was an interesting one
Is that the one who was in The
Outsiders
Yes, the TV show
And like he’s part of
this crew that we’re like going to
continue seeing names pop up
So, next we’ve got another
actor
You may be aware of him, you may
not
Balthazar Getty
Um I’ve always
thought he was so cute
Yeah, he’s
really cute in all their photos together
and he’s like age appropriate which is
refreshing,
right
So, they were pictured together
at events and clubs throughout 1990
Um,
this is a very like
Yeah, I love I mean we love Drew’s look
at this time like long blonde hair
She
looks really happy in this picture here
So, she’s spoken about hanging
out in the friend group that included
Balthazar, Rodney who we just talked
about, and David Arquette, um, who she
said is only a friend, although they
like went to an event together, so
people thought they were dating
I know he’s always on the list
I’m like
I They went like to one red carpet and
Okay
Um, and then they were
pictured um for the last time on October
12th, 1990
So, it was really just like
that year
Kind of a kind of a blip
Um,
but really sweet
Kind of a blip as it should be when
you’re 15 years old
Um, so very soon after on October 29th,
1990,
Drew was pictured with this next guy,
and this is one of the first in a like
boom boom boom way too old guys
His
name was Leland Hayward
Um, he was a grandson of an old
Hollywood producer by the same name
Okay,
so Drew is 15 and he was in his early
20s
We have to assume it was I think he
was reportedly 24 at the time, but like
Okay,
I don’t know how to check up on that
information
Um,
in February 1991, People magazine
reported that they were rumored to be
engaged, but Drew later said that wasn’t
true
In fact, she told our buddy Todd
Gold in that same Details magazine that
he bought me a diamond ring and I wore
it on that finger
So, I suppose I asked
for it, but we were never engaged
And
Todd kind of like pushes back, but she’s
like, “No, it was like a joke
Like, we
weren’t engaged
” Which
I don’t know that it really matters
She could have been, you
know
Whatever that means when you’re 15
years old
And then they were last seen together in
February 1991
So, shortlived, but um
you know, I don’t love I don’t love it
It’s notable
I don’t love it
And then this next one is like my least
favorite
This one really
I have a real problem with and we’ve
mentioned it before, but yeah, go for
it
Explain these details
So, um, his name is Phedon Papamichael
What a name, right
in 1991 when
Drew was 16 years old
He was like fully
an adult around 30 who was a
cinematographer on Poison Ivy and then
he directed her in Sketch Artist
And he kind of said he he said outright
actually that he reworked the script of
Sketch Artist after watching her play a
seductress in Poison Ivy
Meaning he
like was like, “Oh,
more sexy
So then um she did mention him
being her boyfriend in movie line 1992
So we kind of have confirmation from the
I always forget what the phrase is from
the horse’s mouth
Is that right
The horse’s mouth
And we mentioned that in episode 81
because we’ve gone over each issue of
Movie Line
Those are really fun
episodes
Check them out
Um, and then,
uh, we have one more little tidbit about
him that is just kind of like weird but
fun to know and a little gross
So, um, photographer Dan Arsenal, who
had done the photos for the, uh, Venice
magazine, um, told us that she brought
photos home from that photo shoot, the
Polaroids, to Phedon like he as a as a
gift
And Phedon has posted one on his
Instagram and it was just like blew our
minds
Yeah, because we saw it
Um I think
there were actually two at first and
there’s only one like still up
But we
didn’t realize at first they were from
the Venice
Like he didn’t even like
credit anything
He was just like Drew
Barrymore and like as if he’d taken
them
And I remember like first of all
the photos are amazing but I was also
like ew
Like you’re okay
Anyway, um
yeah, but later we were able to figure
out they were from that shoot and the
photographer confirmed that’s what he
recalled happening
So yeah, it’s
interesting
He’s like an Academy Award
nominated cinematographer and it doesn’t
get brought up that he dated Drew, but
if you if you Google their names
together, you can find a couple things
Like it’s not a secret secret
And Drew,
remember in movie line 2003 where the
author like lists like several guys that
he found that she’d been in a
relationship with and she says the ones
that are true,
right
And he’s one of them
And this is like the
biggest age gap that we
Yeah
are aware of
Let’s move on to Jamie
Walters
So, this is when things start
getting a little more serious in these
relationships
So, they were introduced
by their mutual agent, JJ Harris, RA,
and they were first seen together in May
1992 when Drew was 17
They very quickly
moved in together and got engaged like
boom, boom, boom, like I think it was a
couple of months
But just as quickly, the relationship
ended
So, Drew had said that Jaime
broke off their engagement by phone
three days before she was due to return
to their LA house that they shared
because she was in Vancouver filming the
Amy Fischer story
He asked him to wait until she got back
so they could discuss it in person
Um,
but by the time she got home, Jamie had
moved out
And she like said that she
thinks that spending too much time apart
was the cause of the the problems
But
this was probably like her first really
serious relationship
And definitely
major heartbreak
Like she was very open
for a few years about how painful
this breakup was for her
I I have to
imagine this was maybe like the first
time that she was like,
I could create my own family with
someone or you know those kind of ideas
that we see place together
So they were
probably really picturing building a
life
And I would imagine I think JJ was a
very like kind of a motherly mentor
figure for Drew
So JJ like encouraging
the relationship probably made some
difference as well
Um one other little tidbit
we’ll mention if you’re not familiar
with the interview magazine from 1992
He appears with Drew on the cover
He is
in he’s clothed and Drew is nude
Um
it’s
we have we have an episode about that
too, guys, if you want to go listen
Yes, we do
There are many episodes,
y’all
We’ve covered a lot
Um, we’ve
also covered this next guy
Um, this is,
um, Drew’s first husband, Jeremy Thomas
Very brief marriage
Let me go into it
Um, they met at the Roxbury in 1992, but
then they met again at a friend’s house
on February 12th of 1994 and started
dating
So, we’re February 12th, 1994
Here we are
Then they’re like married
at on the spur of a moment on March 20th
at his bar the room
We talked about
this in episode 26
As I mentioned,
we’ve talked about the weddings
Okay,
so that’s March 20th
By Mar by May
10th, Drew’s filed for divorce, but
we’ve since found out um that she
married him to get a green card
So,
this was just kind of a sort of a flash
in the pan, but notable because
they literally published this this
wedding in People magazine
Like, it was
I mean, that’s where most of these
details come from
Like, it’s crazy
Like, they they really presented this to
be a true relationship
at the time
And I do think they were
dating
Drew sometimes made it sound like, oh,
it was a friend I was trying to help
out
But I think they were actually
dating
We’ve also seen
some letters that he has sold to
tabloids that she wrote to him and
they’re very much like I’m in love with
you kind of
loving ones
Yeah, they’re really sweet
He like she like wrote him poetry
Yeah, totally
But later she called him
the devil
So didn’t end well,
right
It was sounds it was really
intense
I mean obviously
Yeah
So, kind of like surrounding
that whole thing is our next
relationship
One of the cutest ones,
but also this is a really big age gap,
too
But I guess it was
This is Eric Erinsson, the guitarist of
Hole
So, he and Drew had first met um man, I
did a lot of research
I still haven’t
pinned down the exact date, but it was
either December 93 or January 94
I know
that
So, she had vomited on his shoes
outside of the music club, Jabberjaw
We’ve told this story a million times
Um, and then they ran into each other
again soon after when Hull was in town
doing the album photo shoot for Live
Through This, which Drew’s friend Ellen
von Unworth was doing
But I know, but they didn’t start dating
until Drew was in Seattle filming Mad
Love in summer 94
And some in one of
the articles we covered recently, she’s
like, “Oh, I had to go get married and
figure my out first and then I
could start dating this guy
“
I don’t think it like in my mind those
things do not overlap
I can’t I almost can’t see them
overlapping in my head
Wow, that’s
through the research of this podcast
that I’ve really like nailed down the
timeline and been like, “Whoa, that’s
weird
“
So wild
And I love that she’s like said
that like confirmed
Um, Drew and Eric were super super in
love
Like, she was crazy about him
She
talked about him with so much love in
her heart
They did live together in LA
Um, I mean, they were together for a
long time
She was constantly on tour
with Hull
And, you know, I think this
is one of our favorite eras of Drew
So,
of course, we have a certain fondness
for any photo of them together
Um, they were
last seen together on the red carpet in
April of 1996 and there was really no
explanation that I think we’ve ever seen
for their breakup
Um,
yeah
And she hasn’t really talked about
their breakup like
No, she speaks of him very with a lot of
love still
Um, but yeah, we’ve never
really heard what happened, but we can
kind of It could be because of the next
guy or there may have not have been an
overlap
We don’t really know
But it was a very tender
relationship like like you said
Um this
timeline is like our favorite like Yeah
And I had a chance to briefly meet Eric
Erson with Jolina and I told him you are
one of my my favorite boyfriends of Drew
Barrymore
And I feel like he was like
oh I love Drew
Like he’s you know of
course like it was really funny but I
told him that
I also they were like um
photographed together twice after their
breakup like at events on like on random
like
Oh, I don’t even remember
Yeah, I think one was the American
History X premiere and then the other
one was like this art show like way in
the future when she was with Will
Do
you remember this
Is it the art show that was like
Shepherd Fair’s art show
Yes, I think so
It’s cute though
We love a little
reunion between Drew and anyone from her
past
Oh my god
I mean, yeah
Speaking of uh
reunions that we love
So, Luke Wilson, we love Luke Wilson
We were just talking about him at the
top of the show because literally he
Yeah
Drew and uh Vince Gilligan
Talked to him on the phone on our show
We also were just talking about how much
we love him and Charlie’s Angels
Like
Luke comes up a lot on this show
Yes,
we love Luke
So, um, of course, as you
probably know as Drew Barrymore fans,
they were cast as love interests in both
Best Men and Home Fries, but both in
1996, which is wild
It still blows my mind that Home Fries
is from was filmed in ’96 because it
came out in ’98
But anyway,
you know what’s so funny is that, like I
said, it keeps like coming in my orbit
So I found out they were still
potentially filming in January 97 and
that blew my mind because I was like
that is a 96 filmed movie and it’s just
so silly
What it crossed over
Um and they
I this Drew has basically described that
was like love at first sight
Um if you
don’t know the quote
the camels,
right
What is it like
I would I
would follow those
Um he was wearing
brown shoes and I would follow those
across any desert or something or Yeah
camel colored shoes
Anyway,
camels
I’m butchering it
I’m butchering it
So, they were really pretty
seriously together for close to two
years
Um he said uh she said that he
broke up with her during the filming of
Never Been Kissed in summer of 1998
Um
though they were seen together
afterwards
um they continued to be on
and off for a little bit and Drew has
now we’ve heard her describe it as an
open relationship um through the end of
1999
So we don’t have like a definitive
end
Um
yeah, well I guess we kind of do when
the next guy comes in, but
that’s a good point
That’s a very good
point
Um I will just say when every
time we’ve seen Drew encounter Luke on
her show or anything, it’s the cutest
We would love to see them back together
Like
honestly, he’d probably be my number one
pick for her to get back together with
Like he is so sweet
And it I I was really like bothered when
when the media took the like open
relationship thing and ran with it like
as if that’s how it was the whole time
because in the beginning like she was
like ready to like go move to Texas and
have babies with him
Like they were
very together
I know the open relationship thing
I
mean I think it surprised us a little
bit but also because of the wording
I
think it’s just the wording
They
probably were just like, “Let’s be
casual
“
I think it was more they were on and off
at the end there for a while
And she’s just using that
to kind of describe maybe her mindset or
whatever it was
I don’t know
I don’t know
All right
Now, we have husband number
two,
Tom Green
Also, we just talked about
him a lot because so Drew had a crush on
him
She really loved his MTV show and
so she asked him to be in Charlie’s
Angels
Go watch the last episode if you
want to know more about that
So they started dating during filming in
early 2000 and they were engaged by
July
Again, these some of these
relationships just go boom boom boom
Love junkie, right
This one was just a total whirlwind
because it was like really playing out
in the media in such an extreme way and
they were like feeding into that
You
know, that was kind of Tom’s thing and
Drew was like, “All right, I guess I’m
going to be the fun girlfriend and go
along with this
” Um they dealt with him
going through testicular cancer and her
house burning down during all of this
Like it was chaos
Um so and they
were like always playing with the press
about if they were married or not or
when are they going to married
Oh, we
got married yesterday
Oh, we’re going
to get married in two weeks
Like it was
I mean they were just always messing
around with the press
But
it’s really funny
But the real thing finally did
happen on July 7th, 2001
And again, you
can go listen to our episode 26 to get
more details about their wedding
Uh,
but then Tom filed for divorce on
December 17th, 2001, citing
irreconcilable differences
That’s my
celebrity profile narrator voice I like
to bring up every once in a while
Um, irreconcilable differences
You know what I’m talking about
Yeah, of course I do
He does talk
pretty extensively in his book about,
you know, what happened there
And I
really think it comes down to just being
from two totally different worlds
And then all this like craziness that
happened during the relationship in the
media and it just, you know, was not
sustainable
Wasn’t there some We were
Maybe it was one of the articles where
she was talking a lot about like how
tumultuous it was like right after the
fire like how like
like mentally she was going through
I
mean I like Yeah
And that it was like
really intense and that they were trying
to like
I think she says like we’re fighting a
lot or something to that effect
So
yeah, I can’t imagine going through all
the stuff they went through, but he has
been on our show and they also had a
very like lovely exchange like so
I mean from everything that we know it
feels like he was actually a really
stable influence on their life which is
like not what you’d expect from this
wacky guy
Um, I think he’s one of many
who came from a very like stable, happy
family and Drew is attracted to these
guys who have that, you know, makes a
lot of sense
We’ll see it come up again
and again
Yes, we will
She craved that family
thing
Yeah,
totally
I Oh, I was going to say one
more thing about Tom Green is that I
remember when Drew started dating him
I
remember my brother saying to tease me,
she’s going to marry him
And I was like, “No, she’s not
” And
then like within the year,
Starfish, where are you going
Where are
you going, Starfish
Where are you going
again
She’s going to go see The Strokes
That’s where she’s going
Yes, she is again and again and again
Um, we also love this guy
So,
Fabitio Moretti, who uh is was Are the
strokes still a thing
Yeah, they just came to Vegas and I
couldn’t get tickets
It was like sold
out immediately
Oh, okay
So, the Strokes, the drummer
of the Strokes,
um they met backstage at Coachella when
the Strokes were playing in late April
2002
And then they were pictured together the
very next day at an event
So, like I
think it was kind of immediate with
them
Um and then it proceeded to be
Drew’s longest relationship to date,
which is so odd to think about
He was
younger than her
I think he might
right
He was a bit younger than her and
maybe Justin, too
And don’t
forget Fab and Justin have the same
birthday
Oh my god
Is it the same year or two
I don’t know
But uh just pencil this in
your mind, guys
It was June 2nd
You
might hear that date a little bit later
on in this episode
Oh my god, I forgot about that whole
thing
Okay, so that was her longest
relationship
There were always rumors
of like breakups and engagements and but
nothing was really ever confirmed
And
it seemed like their relationship was
like pretty stable throughout
Like it
seemed like a pretty like decently good
relationship
I remember like paparazzi
of them fighting, but like
Oh yeah, I forgot about that
But it is what it is
It is what it And also like that was
such a fun time to like always see
pictures of her at their shows and
they seemed very in love
Like remember
when we went to the star ceremony and he
was in the crowd like just looking at
her so proudly
And we met Fab
Don’t forget that
We’ve met him twice
Oh my god
One in once
was in Vegas
And then I The other time was at
the bowling alley
The bowling alley like everyone else is
going to know
Um do we tell that story
I’m sure we’ve told that story, but I’ll
just I’ll real quick
We went down to
universal citywalk because the Strokes
were playing and I don’t know
We were
hoping something would happen
We see
Drew
We didn’t see Drew, but this guy
from KROQ just walked up to us and
Joalena and he’s like, “Hey, do you guys
want to meet the strokes
Like, we’re
doing a meet and greet fun thing at the
Lucky Strike Bowling Alley and I have
extra passes or who even knows
” Like,
that was the power of
literally it just right
It just it just
fell on us
We manifested that just like we did
Sam Rockwell
We were just sitting
there, but we were sitting in the in the
area, you know, like we were being we
were placed very strategically
still
It was amazing
And he was super,
right
He was super sweet and I have an
amazing photograph that I took of Fab
Like,
oh my god, we have to be fun to share
that, right
Yes, we have to
It’s like one of the
best photos I’ve ever seen in my life
It’s also really weird
The reason it’s
so crazy, I’ll just tell you guys, is
the flash is somebody else’s flash
Like
my flash was not on
It’s lit by the
side
Like I think it’s there’s
something really weird that’s happening
and it’s amazing
Um and he was really
sweet every time
Like I mean the both
times it was very just like
lovely just like I don’t remember
anything we talked about
It was
probably very quick but sweet guy
Um
anyway um news of their split hit in
January 2007
So that’s like yeah
they’re they were together for almost
five years
Almost five years
Um and I don’t think
we’ve ever really gotten much
information on what happened there
Um,
oh, I guess I could say one more thing
about it
Like, don’t we know that an
illustration that he did was on the Drew
Barrymore show set for a while
Yeah, I was going to say that
I think
um I think it’s still there and got
moved, but it’s like I think she has the
original in her New York apartment
Like
I’ve seen it there and then there’s like
a blown up version on the Drew Barrymore
show set
So, they obviously there’s
still love there
I would He should come
on the show
That’d be fun
That would be fun
Something to promote
Come on, Fab
I
feel like he’s like seems shy or
something, right
Like even when we met
him, like I don’t remember any words
I
just remember sweetness
Just a cute little smile
All right
Another little cutie coming
up here
So Justin Long
He’s probably
like I’m Him and Luke are kind of equal
to me as far as like they’re so cute
I
love her with them
So Drew and Justin
had originally met through Sam Rockwell,
mutual friend, and then they started
dating
They started dating after Justin was
cast in the Flower Films He’s Just Not
That Into You film
And they were first pictured together in
September 2007
I think it was like
Austin city limits or something like
that
They spent a lot of time in Austin
together
I think that’s why I like
think something with him
Um
they were together for a little while
We definitely like saw them
They were a
picture together a lot
They were like
paparazzi, the two of them, I feel like,
more than her in any other relationship
I think a cover of like US
Weekly was them at the beach, I think
Why was that
You’re right
I think it
was People
That’s even like kind of wilder
in a way
So, they were like very much an
item, but they broke up around the time
that Whippet began filming in July 2008
Drew’s rep even confirmed it to people
And we have our theories that he was
originally supposed to have the role in
Whippet that Jimmy Fallon ended up
doing
Um I think we had heard that
somewhere along the line and it totally
makes sense if you think about it
So they broke up, but then they
started regularly being spotted together
again starting in March 2009
And then
you know continually after that they
made going the distance together that
summer
They never like confirmed they
were dating again, but it was super
obvious
Like, right,
they went to the Emmys together
Like,
he was supporting her through all the
whip it promotion
Like, even at the end
of SNL, we talked about that he’s like
right there on stage with holding hands
with her
Um, but they were last pictured together
as what feels like an official couple at
the GLAD Awards in April 2010, but then
they were still super friendly and cute
together when they promoted Going the
Distance in August of that year
But
from what I recall, they were like
definitely not together anymore at that
point
And another one that’s been on
our show and was like
multiple times, I think
And it’s like
it’s very clear that there is like
forever love between them
But I also
love how I also So sometimes I feel like
Drew goes a little hard trying to be
like, I love your wife
Like very
hard
And I know she actually does, but
what’s what’s her name
Kate Bosworth
Kate Bosworth
So it seems like you know
Justin and Kate Bosworth they seem very
very very in love but also like I think
Drew and Justin still love each other
Like they say it to each other like
there’s but not in a I don’t think
that’s anyway it’s very lovely very
tender
I I love that Drew has these
like
the positive things that like in out of
her like some of her loving
relationships like it’s lovely
I also always think about like how
she’s described that time period that
they were together as like hedonistic
Like that’s when we got her just like
wearing the most outrageous clothes and
crazy makeup on her face and they were
always going out to like concerts and
all kinds of stuff
Like it’s
Do we have a 2009 episode where we talk
about Yes
So you can hear us talk
about all the wacky outfits
And I feel like
fun year
she got something like out of her system
and that’s sort of like
the page turns to take a
yes
phrase for MC G
right so big page turning to Drew
meeting the father of her children
So,
we are talking about Will Kopelman
Um,
always just described as an art dealer,
whatever that means,
right
Um, from a wealthy New York
family with ties to Chanel
I think it’s
like, yeah, it’s a whole there’s money
on that in that family
And, you know,
Drew is a famous person, has plenty of
money on her own
So, you know, I have
this feeling like there I mean, it’s
very different
There’s a very different
like old money feeling
There’s like a
society thing
With his family that I get that I think
and I’m speculating, but I feel like she
never felt she lived up to it
Does that make sense
I I think I agree with you
I think she
never fully felt comfortable or felt
like it was like Yeah
Whether it was
living up to it or what it was
I Yeah,
this is a this is obviously a hard
relationship for a couple of reasons
So, let’s let’s just get into a little
bit more
So, um, they had met and gone
on a date a few years earlier, but
nothing came of it
That’s so
interesting to me that they had like me,
too
tried it before and then and then they,
um, reunited at a party at the actress
Lake Bell’s house
There was a cute
story on her show about that, right
Um, and they were spotted together for
the first time at a root show in
February of 2011
I always remember this picture and being
like, who’s this frat boy looking guy
with Drew
Like, he does not look like
her type
I don’t even remember it
Like
I’m not I’m not remembering the like
first look and even looking back at it
now I’m like oh this is funny
You you
wouldn’t know that he is like a wealthy
quote unquote art dealer
So then pretty quickly
So
they announced their engagement um in
January of 2012
I guess that’s almost a
year
So that’s quite a while
That’s true
Um but it’s it’s still relatively
quickly
Um, I do remember thinking that
every time they were like pictured
together, she did feel very
polished in a different way, right
Like
it did feel like she was really trying
Trying to be this like
mature Chanel girl
Um, so they were they were um engaged by
January of 2012 and they were full uh
photographed holding an ultrasound in
February
So basically it was like
shotgun wedding
Is that what you call
that
But very sweet
I know you’ve we talked
about with the wedding
I know you said
it’s your least favorite wedding dress,
but I do think it’s very sweet that
she’s pregnant and you can see that
she’s pregnant and it’s absolutely
it’s sweet
Um they were married on June 2nd
Oh, what’s that date
Which happens to be the birthday of two
ex-boyfriends of Drews
And they welcomed baby Olive on
September 26th
So her family, this is
the thing that she I think I think that
was probably huge for her
Absolutely
I mean, we know it was
I think it was like this guy has an
amazing family and I want to start a
family and time is running out and like
I’m ready to do this
Like I think she
said at one point way back in the day
like one of the only things she hasn’t
rushed into is being a mom
Like she was
waiting for the right moment and this is
when it presented itself to her
She was gathering information like
butterflies in a net
Butterfly net
So then they welcomed their
second child Frankie on April 22nd of
2014
So just a couple less than a
couple years later
And then by April
2016, they had filed for divorce
So um
they released a joint statement to
people
I remember think this was very
beautifully done
But it’s also kind of heartbreaking, you
know
So it says, “Sadly, our family is
separating legally, although we do not
feel this takes away from us being a
family
Divorce might make one feel like
a failure, but eventually you start to
find grace in the idea that life goes
on
Our children are our universe and we
look forward to living the rest of our
lives with them as the first priority
I know that’s beautiful and it feels
true
I mean for at least for a couple
years they seem to be very much
co-parenting like going to like holidays
together and all that stuff
I think
that has sort of
faded a bit in recent years which makes
sense
He’s remarried
They have
you know he has another child and
another one on the way
right
But um yeah, I mean Drew moved to
New York to have her daughters be closer
to him and his family like
right, you know, it’s it’s a real
it’s it’s huge
But she’s also said that
her girls are the most amazing thing
that’s ever happened to her
I don’t get
the sense that Will that there was
anything like wrong with Will
I just
think that
it wasn’t the right fit for her
Yeah, that’s a great way to put it
And
you know, we know that her divorce from
him was literally like the hardest thing
she’s ever gone through
Like she said
like she thought going to rehab at 13
was like the lowest she could go
It’s that was even lower
Um which
is just crazy
So I’m glad that there
seems to be some peace there
Um but you know, she hasn’t really dated
much since with one little exception
This guy always gets left out of the
story, but let’s just briefly touch on
this
All right, so David Hutchinson, who
worked at Mesa, which was the parent
company of Flower Beauty, she started
being spotted with him in April 2017,
and there were even like times where he
was pictured with her and her daughter,
so couldn’t have been too casual unless
he was just like a friend hanging out
Um, but by June of that year, 2017, it
was being reported by Page 6 and people
that they were dating and Drew had like
tagged him in some of her Instagram
captions at the time
They also went to Tony Crago’s wedding
together
So, they were a thing
Um,
August 2017 seems to be the last time
that we really saw them together
I got
tired of going through every single
folder that we have
But um he like came
with a group on a private jet for Chris
Miller’s birthday
So that was like the
last time that I really noticed
But
yeah, it’s interesting
He’s always kind
of left out of the story
Like she
always says like, “I’ve never dated
since my divorce
” And I’m like, “Oh,
sorry, David
“
But maybe it’s like, you know, she
didn’t really find any of the people
that she’s been on dates with, including
him,
to be serious enough maybe to
I don’t know
Yeah,
I don’t know
But yeah, we’ve got that
little thing that is a blip that she
almost seems to have forgotten
And it’s
crazy that that was so long ago
Like
we’re talking over eight years and
there’s that’s the end of the list
Like
that is the end of the list
But guys,
there’s good news because Drew has like
openly said she’s single and happy to be
single
I mean, I think she feels like
she says like if the right time comes,
the right person comes
like, but she’s
really been pretty open about being
single for the last 8 years, as you
said
Um, she speaks on her show a lot
about like going on dates, but like
nothing ever really turning into
anything notable
I always get
my hopes up, but then I’m like, “Oh,
that didn’t happen
But she, like I said, she’s
pretty happy with her current life
Um,
she has said like she isn’t really sure
she wants to invite anyone into it
like
she’s like it’s kind of lovely the way
it is
Um but always open
She’s like, you know, she loves love
Did you see um recently when Ross told
her that he had somebody that he wanted
to introduce her to and she seemed
intrigued and excited and I trust Ross’
judgment
He seems like a great person
to set her up with someone
But I also love that he like seemed like
he had the epiphany on the air
Or like to tell her on the air
Yeah, for sure
That was I mean that’s cute
I
mean we’ll see what happens
I mean
we’ll see
We’re always rooting for her,
you know
It’s like
wherever her happiness is, but it it is
exciting when she’s got a partner, you
know, it’s a whole different thing as a
fan
But yeah, if she just wants to be
single, I mean, let’s hear what she had
to say just recently um to the audience
at the Drew Barrymore Show
One thing I do know about being single,
and I have been single for so many
years, like eight I think years, is that
one day it might be gone
I think it’s
an amazing time to enjoy your time
because before you know it, someone’s
going to walk into your life and that’ll
be all different from there on out
So,
who’s ever single out there, enjoy this
time because before you know it, at some
point you’ll be sharing a life with
someone
It would be a disaster and a
waste to not love the time you get to
yourself
I do really enjoy being
single
That’s perfect
Yeah, it’s a great way to sum it up
Yeah, perfect sentiment to describe
where she is after this uh kind of
flurry of love
throughout her life
Um, yeah, Drew, we
love you
We support your love of love,
whether you’re single or in a
relationship
All right, cool
So, we did it
There’s
your list, guys
If you uh you know, we
might eventually go in deeper on some of
these relationships
That’s kind of the
plan
But um we sort of realized we need
this like overarching
definitive list
As I said, I was
telling Anne before we started recording,
it sort of reminds me of our tattoos
episode where it’s like we need to just
put out the record of when they all
happened and why and then you know that
it’ll all be there for someone to enjoy
We want to be the source
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Happy anniversary party
Happy anniversary for episode 111
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My birthday
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Three year anniversary of the pod
We’re celebrating that on this episode
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So, we’re right in
that time frame and this is where we got
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That is so weird
I know
it’s been that long
I can’t I can’t wrap my head around it
It’s still feels like such a new
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I know we’ve done this before, but like
you didn’t have your second daughter at
that point
I wasn’t living in Maine
yet
Like,
wow
There’s so many like big things
that have happened since then
Like,
right, how did we like do this weekly
through all that
I don’t know
We were insane
But yes, if you’ve listened since the
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Thank you for supporting
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Would you like
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Yeah, that sounds fun
And really, I think like this is
all at the mercy of the YouTube
algorithm because
some of our episodes have just like done
really well over there, so it kind of
skews the the stats here
But, um, our
third most popular was episode 92, which
was Movie Line 1995
Totally
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Uh, second is episode 85, which is
the year in review for 1999, which is a
great one as well
That’s fun
And then our number one most listened to
episode released in the past year was 89
and that was for movie line 1994
So,
oh, good taste
Not even the gossipy movie line 1992
Might have been like just before
Really close
That might have been the year before
like to Yeah, that might be why
I mean, that’s
always fun, but that’s neat to see that
people really liked or seemed to like
whatever the algorithm the movie was
where YouTube told them to watch
Yeah, exactly
Like, that’s cool that
that series I mean, it was fun to do
that series, too
So, I’m glad a lot of
people seem to have heard it
So, we are recording
kind of early, so we don’t have a lot of
stuff at the top, but we do at this
point in the episode, in our anniversary
episodes, we usually drop in some uh
kind of a what do you call it
Like a
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Ashley won’t hear it until the episode
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They told me they were listening to our
ever ever ever ever ever
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He said, “How is it working with someone
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How is it working with someone you
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She said, “All of a sudden, one night, I
don’t know why it hit me
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Why can I never be left alone
That’s what you get for having a
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God say husband
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So,
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Let’s be serious
111 episodes in
It’s mostly for
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So, we don’t have a lot at the
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bit before we get into the third of our
summer series
Okay, let’s go back to way back August
14th, 1982
And this is kind of an interesting one
There’s a reason I pull it I pulled it
Um, so Drew attended little Drew, little
seven-year-old Drew, attended the
birthday party for her manager at the
time, Larry A
Thompson at Mayon
He’s
like very like um legendary manager kind
of guy in entertainment and it’s really
just cute little Drew in a sweet little
white dress hanging out with a bunch of
adults as we know like would become
common
about how it was
But I feel like this might have been
like one of the first times, you know,
that that really happened
Um
Larry did later appear on one of those
television biography specials about her
might have been Bravo profiles
It might
have been like the the original cut of
biography which like yeah that one’s not
on YouTube so I couldn’t find it but I
definitely remember an interview with
him
And then I did find something cute
where he told the Hollywood Reporter in
2016 that Drew was a star from the very
beginning
So I like that
A that’s really cute
That’s sweet
I I love this like juxaposition of
Drew with the adults that just becomes
such a staple in her childhood
Absolutely
And I think that the reason
I said this one’s kind of notable is
because this is where one of those
really famous photos of little Drew was
taken
And it looks like there’s an
empty glass next to her and it looks
like she’s passed out on the table
Really, it’s like probably a glass of
water
It’s not even necessarily in
front of her and it looks like she’s
just a bored and tired kid who’s out at
this party with all these grown-ups and
she’s seven
Like, or could it just been the
moment she just put her head down like
Yeah, it was it was used because it
could be easily construed as that, but
yeah, she wasn’t quite um
drinking yet
I mean, it would
I mean, very close, but not
very close
Wasn’t one of the first
times at like a rap party
Yeah, the
fire starter one
All right
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Okay, back to the beach
Oh, it’s time, baby
It is time
hit the saxophone
Um, before we get into the last two
episodes of 20,000 Malibu Road, um, just
want to say first of all, go listen to
our other two episodes covering these
because like you got to follow through
the whole thing
But, um, I did find
this really funny review, this little
paragraph here that I wanted to include
because it just cracked me up
It says,
“Four women, a brain, two bods, and a
bizarro
inhabit the most expensive and maybe the
strangest rooming house in the history
of television at 2000 Malibu Road
The strangest rooming house
This was
before um why am I forgetting what that
show was where people would like live in
a house together and they stopped being
polite and started being real
This is like right at the same time as
the
world
That’s so funny
You’re like, I
don’t remember what it’s called, but
they stop stop being polite and they
start getting real
Real world
Oh, all right
Um, so real
world with uh these three actresses or
these four actresses
So,
nothing like the real world
Um, the
final two episodes, five and six, aired
together on September 9th
Um, we had
previously said that the final episode
aired on the 16th, but we were incorrect
there
Um, so you found a whole bunch of
various like TV magazines, I’m assuming
Yeah, like newspaper listings and stuff
And it does sound like it was supposed
to go through the 16th, but I found one
that said the show was pulled from the
schedule because it aired as part of a
2-hour episode on September 9th
All episodes have aired and CBS hasn’t
decided whether to make more
So that’s what it said at that
point
Well, that’s not what happened
We’ll get into that at the end
Um, so before we like really go
beat by beat, what was your feeling
about these last ones
So, you told me they were going to
be kind of nuts
And I I felt like they
could have been more nuts
Oh, didn’t go bizarro enough for you
I don’t know
Like I think maybe I was
just expecting it to be
I don’t know
Maybe as we’re going through I’ll tell
you ways that it could have been gone
crazier
But I I almost felt like
I was like anticipating it and maybe
because some of the things are tropey
I
don’t know
Like this is definitely where
it starts feeling like a soap opera
especially like
the joy wacky stuff that um you know
isn’t necessarily what you’d have in
real life
There are multiple things that
it’s like what
A lot of what moments for me
But we’ve had those and we
still get a laugh out of the rest of the
show
We’re going to laugh a lot in this one,
I think
I think so
No different
than the others
Okay, opening scenes
We get Drew pretty
quickly in this one
Um, first we see
Munoz, the only cop in town, spying on
the house and the bushes
with binoculars
And I was like, he and
Joyce should probably like compare
spying tactics
They both have their
binoculars
And uh, someone’s finally using this big
pool at the house
And it’s our girl
Drew
And they film her in sexy slow-mo
cuz of course
Oh my god
I’m like, Joel, come on
Did
you have to do this
But she looks great
Rocking the bikini
It definitely I started thinking of like
gross comparison cuz she’s only 13 in
it
But uh Far from Home
She also rocks
a black bikini in that one
Um, so I love that this the second
Lindsay gets out of the pool, Joy is
right there to surprise her with the
towel,
genuinely like scares her a little bit
And Lindsay is really overjoy [ ] finally And we’re going to see that a lot in these last two episodes Uh, let’s play this little clip All right, let’s get a taste I saw you on the beach last night with Eric You thought I was sleeping, but I wasn’t Oh, so you spied on me No, I just wanted to make sure you were all right Well, obviously I was, [ ]
What
The come with Drew herself
Um, and then Joy, of course, launches
into more lies about why her ex dumped
her
I forget what they say his name
Byron or something
It’s kind of like an
old school name
Um, and apparently he had told It sounds
like she said he like told everyone
the whole town
that she was a [ ] because she slept with him before they got married and he wanted to marry a virgin Like, oh my god Yeah, it’s awful And then she went on to warn her, “Don’t go too far with Eric It’s just over the top ” I mean, we we kind of knew that I I mean, we suspected that maybe Joy had something to do with the separation with the person she was supposed to marry And hence why you’re like big lies It’s poor poor Lindsay And it really does a number on her She’s going to be dealing with this for most of the episode, actually Yeah, she is And I feel like she also at this point, she’s definitely like, “Joy, you’re bullshitting me Like her even like the expression in like in like some of that parts like I feel like she’s just like like this look of like disbelief like I can’t believe you’re still doing this Anyway, um so then Perry and Roger, uh Jennifer Beiels and then her stupid guy, um they pull up to the house and this is the first time where you really get like the grasp of how huge this property is in the front Like all the other episodes when they showed the exterior, it almost looked like it was just from like the street, but it’s like this huge compound And they do show a lot more of this area in these final episodes I don’t know why they didn’t utilize it before, but it’s so big and I cannot believe I can’t track it down I have like done so many reverse image searches I can’t find anything on this house Someone’s got to know So weird And maybe it’s just like gone and has been gone for a long time Like maybe it was just like completely something else was built there Yeah, it could be So yeah, then we get this really like I mean I know I’ve been saying how sweet some of their scenes are, but I love your note that he’s totally lovebombing I mean last time he asked her to move in with him, they’re like barely dating at that point and now he’s like I love you and just Yeah I was like [ ]
this guy
Like I am not buying this at
all
I just I also had to note that she said
like she’s afraid now
But in this case,
she’s like talking about like her fiance
or husband like died, so she’s afraid to
be in love again
Um, but she does seem like more
tentative in this scene about him than
she does in others maybe
Like I don’t
know
Like she’s saying I I’m falling in
love with you
She doesn’t respond to
his like
she almost says it against her will,
right
That’s what I mean
Like she
seems like not quite sure
A little nervous about it
That’s why she’s the brain
All right, the next scene, Jade has some
big news, of course
So, it starts out with Lindsay
She’s
still trying to get some advice about
men
She’s just so poor Lindsay
She
just doesn’t know how to do anything
And this time, she’s asking Jade, but
it’s kind of like, can I make an
appointment with you later to talk about
this
They don’t really get a chance to
talk about it before the others join
them
So, Jade tells everybody that they’re
going to have to look for a new place to
live
Um, and Joyy’s like, “Oh, that’s
great for you, Perry, because she just
spent two whole nights in a row with
Roger
” I’m like, “Oh my god, let’s jump
the gun a little bit here
” So, yeah,
out of nowhere, Jade introduces her
fiance, this like gross guy that we met
in the previous episode, and everyone
seems pretty like stoked for her, which
is kind of weird that they can’t sense
the weirdness of it, but I don’t know
Um, and Perry is the one who’s like kind
of thinking about it, like you said, the
brain
Um, unfortunately, Joy is just
being a weird creep and says, “May I
kiss the groom
So weird
She’s always got to be horny
Like that’s part of her character
And somehow like she’s just weird
enough that like people just let her do
it
Um,
I also think it’s funny that like right
after that there’s like this cute like
it seems like Joy, Perry, and Lindsay
are like kind of like giggling together
about it
It’s a little It’s a little weird, but
it’s kind of cute
I do really love how Drew looks in this
scene
We should have mentioned it
She’s wearing just like a bathrobe and
sunglasses, and she looks super glam
Like, this is only one of the times I’m
like, “Yeah, she looks like she could be
like a famous actress, you know
“
So cute
She does look really cute
And there’s a horribly disgusting scene
right after this with Jade’s mom and the
fiance and they’re just treating her
like absolute [ ] Like it’s it’s like freaky how bad it gets Um the guy even says that when they get married he can come home to his very own full-time personal hooker So disgusting And her mom’s like right there And he also admits he’s marrying her for the money and to aid him in his political ambitions Like he’s like, I must have a wife Like it’s just all really gross Like even before the personal hooker thing, he’s like, I’ll go out with whoever I want and then I’ll come home to my full-time push hooker and you’re always going to say yes to me Like but like pretty soon after this, I’m pretty sure she like hits him in the balls and then walks away Like totally deserves like gets in her car and she’s out of there And that’s I think it on him I think he’s he’s like, “Never mind This isn’t worth it ” For this episode at least I mean, yeah So, we have another scene with Jade and her friend, client lawyer, dude It’s It’s weird because at this point, I mean, he always seems like slimy Um she like is kind of asking him to help her sort of like run away Like get her out of the country, which he’s like telling her not to do at first, but then he he like encourages her to go to a motel with a fake name in a disguise He’s like a dark wig He acts like it’s all off the cuff, but he like has a name prepared for her and everything Do you think, And it’s still unclear to me even after being completely done Is he working for her family I can’t don’t know Determined I guess I guess what I was I was thinking is that the voice that maybe she hears later is like her dad or you know or somebody like that I was thinking that too I was actually listening for that and I just couldn’t tell We’ll we’ll explain that when we get to the end of the episode But that might be a clue that we would have gotten more information on But who knows So Lindsay and Eric are on the beach together and um Lindsay’s a little testy at first because she’s being affected by Joyy’s lies about her being a [ ] and she
thinks like, you know, maybe Eric’s only
interested in her for sex, but he’s just
like, “No, like we’re good
” Like he
charms her really quickly with
sweetness
He like he really deals with
her really well throughout the entire
show
He seems to like bring her kind of
back down out of these like places that
usually Joy is bringing her
Yeah, exactly
And I do absolutely love
when Joy shows up to interrupt them
He
does a really great groan
I didn’t cue
it up, but he’s just like
And then Joy takes Lindsay away to go
practice lines
You know, Joy, he’s actually very nice
Yeah, that’s because he hasn’t gotten
what he wants yet
You know, all men
cannot be as bad as you say they are
Oh, Lindsay, you are so young and so
naive
I wish you could stay this week
And I’m sorry that I have to be the one
to tell you just how gross and
animalistic the male species really is
Do you think at a later point we would
have learned that like some dude did a
number on Joy
cuz I feel like she’s
always like projecting this like
hatefulness towards men
Except no,
she’s not really because she wants every
dude she comes in contact with
It’s
really I guess just on Lindsay’s behalf
that all men are
but also like the way she is around
other people in general is weird
Really
weird
Like
true
I don’t we I don’t know what’s up with
Joy
Like
I don’t have a clue
I think she’s
overprotective of Lindsay obviously and
is making up like making putting things
whatever taking things out of
proportion
blowing things out of proportion
Thank you
So
then um Perry’s not able to reach Roger
of course
and
after this like love bomb
And um and then and also Sergeant Munoz
stops by
Okay, so Munoz is admitting to
unofficially
trailing Jade because he thinks she’s in
danger
Um, which is cool
Like he’s
paying attention like we said earlier in
this or last episode, I think
I mean, it’s a good thing the only cop
in town is paying attention
Um, and he’s not able to find any legit
information on Jade’s lawyer/friend
So,
we already get this like you were so
like right away like this guy is [ ] I hate him He starts off trying to drown her in the ocean in the very beginning That’s right And I couldn’t remember that Um, so Perry at this point in the episode is like visibly buzzed and she’s like kind of like being a little like casual with the cop, but I feel like they all are a little bit I don’t know Well, no, I think she does feel like she’s being a little flirty with him I like how you said a little familiar in your notes And and you can tell like because the scene ends with him being like do me a favor and drink some black coffee before you drive She’s like, “Oh ” She’s like looking at her wine glass Is it that obvious Of course, this is like a continuation of the like them pushing that she’s like drinking a lot of wine so it never goes anywhere No, it does I mean, doesn’t seem to Um, so it turns out that Jade’s friend, this lawyer quote unquote, was just renting his office, a furnished office week to week He he Perry finds out cuz she goes there She goes there and they’re like cleaning it out He moved out Um and then later Perry discovers that there’s no one with his name registered to practice law in the state So officially a fraud What a piece of [ ] He didn’t expect
the brain to be investigating this, did
he
So now this is this was the first
moment where I was like what what is
this soap opera craziness
So
we see Roger or so we think walking
walking down some street
I don’t know
what he’s doing
And somebody stops him
and he’s like, “Hey Roger, we played
football together
And he’s like I get is he’s either a
split personality or an evil twin
Very
doppelgangeres
And he says, “I ain’t never played no
football
“
He’s like wearing a leather black
leather jacket
He doesn’t look like surfer guy anymore
And I just couldn’t help but think
like maybe this version did actually
sexually assault his ex
Oh, I think for sure
I mean, once we get to the end of this
episode, I was like, “Oh,
yeah
Um, I do like that Joy says to
Perry, “Don’t tell me that miserable
flaky Roger did another disappearing
act
” And I was like, “Yes, that’s what
I’ve been saying, girl
“
And then I She also says, “If that
psycho hasn’t killed him, I promise you
I will
“
What a good friend, huh
Perfectly perfectly joy, too
I guess
she’s protective of everyone
Everyone who’s in her corner, I guess,
right
So now I guess this Jessica Rally
show thing cuz it’s back on
You know,
it’s whatever for now
They’re in
they’re in a meeting for the show
It
sounds like they’re going to maybe do a
run through
And you notice that Drew is wearing the
same dress and earrings from the first
scene in episode 1
Her hair even
looks the same
I’m like, did they film
these simultaneously
But it also
doesn’t feel like they planned out the
show like that far in advance
But I I
bet they filmed the six episodes like
together
Yeah, probably
I’d be interested to
know like it’s it’s so she looks exactly
the same
So,
do we and we do we know the timeline
We
do know the timeline of they of their
filming
So, it probably is
We have like an idea
It’s pretty short
window
So, they probably just filmed them all,
but that would be really weird if they
had something like this far into Well,
who knows
It’s very possible
Um, so of course Joy has some notes on
the script
Um, like she shouldn’t even
be sitting at this table
Let’s be real
No, it doesn’t make any sense
Um, she
says she’s like very adamant that the
writers aren’t capturing Lindsay’s
character, so she took the liberty to
hire a freelancer so she could, you
know, get the young stuff in there
And
this just like completely starts a
like everyone is just so embarrassed
Lindsay embarrassed
Like Scott’s so
embarrassed
Who cares about Scott
But
like he’s so embarrassed
And Jessica is pissed and she’s gonna
quit if Lindsay and her sister don’t
leave the show
So, you know, you can
fill in the blanks here
Drew’s going to
be fired again
Project’s on
Project’s off
Right after this, Scott like phys
like physically pushes Joy out of the
office and locks the door
Like,
you think she’s even like rattling the
door handle
Like, can you imagine what everyone in
this room would think after this
Oh my
goodness
I mean, I know like Joy is
representing herself, thankfully
Well,
I guess she’s representing Drew
Hence,
not Drew, but Lindsay
Um, but of
course, she pulls something that she
both gets her the job and then [ ] it up Of course You’re right She’s like getting wins and losses all the time So Joy and Scott who just had this weird like blowout There’s a lot of like editing choices where I’m like uh your mood in this scene and then your mood in the next scene are really all over the place This is weird So uh Joy and Scott are taking a walk on the beach and it’s like romantic kind of So it’s like we know that we know that Joy wants this, right So, right after Lindsay’s fired, Scott is prepared to have sex with Joy to pay her back for how she’s helped his career He literally says he’s prepared Like, he had to like get himself to this point So, she tricks him into getting naked on the beach I mean, I love her little speech to him We’ve got to play this Absolutely Let me clue you in, little man I will have Lindsay’s career and you on my terms Lindsay will be the biggest star this town has ever seen And I will have you on the floor howling like a dog begging for me And that’s followed by her literally taking his clothes and yelling that he’s a pervert to strangers as he stands there naked And she’s just like yelling after him, Joy It’s pretty great It’s so good Her like turning that around on him I did not expect it, but I love it Howling like a dog So, we’re back to Jade and her stupid fake lawyer or friend He gives her a fake passport I did get a really good 90s giggle out of him going, “I had one of the Polaroids I took of you altered by computer Isn’t that great ” That’s so good and he’s says he has her all set up on a corporate jet to Brazil So full of [ ]
And then this weird scene where he
confesses his love for her again and he
offers to join her
But the whole time
she has her back to him and she’s not
responding to anything
She’s completely
ignoring him like she can’t hear him
So
he’s able to temporarily pull a gun on
her without her noticing
Oh, is he gonna shoot her
I
don’t know
But he can’t
It’s so dramatic
And then it goes back
down
She doesn’t notice anything
She like
literally is in her own world
It’s
hilarious
And then that’s followed by them
making love
Screw cuz he sucks
And also like why does he want to kill
her
Like what is his deal
We will
never know
I mean, we will never know
I was going to say, wait, we’ll see
No,
we won’t
Maybe he was hired to do this whole
scheme on her and then he ended up
actually having feelings for her
I
don’t know
Well, probably based on how he was
seemed to be like, I’m supposed to do
this when he’s like having a gun at her
and then
slowly backs down
I think you’re right
They’re just he’s
just too, you know, he’s too in love
with her
So, we’re at the coffee table with Perry
and Joy and they’re reading the
newspaper and Joy reads that Jessica
Rally’s dude has run off with her
personal trainer and apparently that’s
like the ultimate karma according to
Joy
Do we think Joy had something to
do with this
It feels like she’s taking credit for
it
I don’t know how she could make that
happen
I
I don’t know
But I did notice that when
they were when um Jess when they were at
the table for Jessica Relly’s reading
that like as they as Jessica and like
her guy were leaving, he was like, “I
thought you were going to try to get me
a port
So like could have heard that and
exploited it
Very true
Um we’re at the motel again and how
convenient
Mun knows has been called
there because he’s the only cop in town
because there’s been some sort of
vandalism
it’s not part of the story
And then he sees Jade’s car and this
will come into play later
So very lucky
that he’s the only cop who could come
around
Very lucky
Um and guess what
Guess what happens to Lindsay
again
Um she started filming a show
She’s been fired yet again
Let’s
hear what she has to say about even
she’s starting to understand this is a
pattern
Lindsay, what are you doing
I thought
you’d be working
Take a guess
Don’t tell me you got fired again
I knew it was coming
So did we, Lindsay
Yeah, we knew this was just going to be
this loop over and over and over again
Um, but she’s getting snappy with him
still for that thing that Joy put in her
head and she ends up asking him, “Do you
want me for your movie or do you want me
for sex
“
And he does handle it pretty well
Really well
I mean, she says something like, “Oh, I
want us to have like a professional
relationship if I’m going to do this
with you
” And um he says something
like, “Well, I didn’t expect us to be
platonic
He’s like, “That’s not really
that’s not really what I want, but I’ll
respect it
” Like, he’s great, but I am
getting sick of this reoccurring theme
in the show where every dude is telling
the women, “I’m not going to hurt you
You can trust me
” like with him I
believe it at least but it’s like every
show
right there’s it like later there’s a
Muno thing that’s about trust
um okay so now we have a stretch of a
lot of no Drew but we’ll just give you
guys some updates since this show is
ending
no Drew but lots of drama
yes so Perry’s in her office she can’t
re reach Roger or Jade so she’s like
kind of worried um and then a fax the
fax machine starts you know fax is
coming through
She’s looking at it
Do you guys know what a fax is
Good question
I feel like most of our
audience will, but uh if you don’t h how
do we describe it
It like predates email
It’s like a copy machine, but you’re
getting a message
Um so, uh a text or a text, not a text,
a fax comes through and it says, “You’re
dead
” Like a ransom note
And I like
the unnecessary quotation marks around
it
It’s so good
Like who’s quote who’s
being quoted here
But when I say ransom
note, if you guys don’t know what I
mean, it’s like the cutout letters that
are all janky
And then of course they are able to
trace that it came from a public fax
machine at a drugstore which is a mile
from Perry’s house
So like
somebody close by
But you know, we’re supposed to think
it’s Allison the the psycho ex
And we
never find out
Sorry to tell you guys
We never find out who’s sending her all
these messages
Is it like the evil
Roger
I mean, probably
Probably
I’ll just take us back to the last
episode when we were joking about like,
wouldn’t you have heard somebody um
breaking into the house before they
spray paint
So, maybe he literally is doing it, his
other personality
Well, well, who would
write that
I don’t know
None of it really makes any sense
And
like you said, we won’t have uh we won’t
have any any resolution
All right
Now, this this was another
scene where I was like, “Oh boy, we are
in soap opera territory
” So, Joy is in
the bathtub and she’s making a Scott
voodoo doll and stabbing it repeatedly
with little pins
And not just that, she also has a spell
She does
Let’s enjoy this
Scott Sterling,
heartless lover, faithless friend
I
evoke the power that will bring your
crimes against women to an end
It’s so good
We love Joy
I love that the voodoo doll like has his
actual face, like a picture of his face
on it, too
It’s not just like, you
know, a faceless
uh It’s so great
and I think it works
I mean, based on the fact that yes, they
show him unable to perform with a woman
in the bedroom like that like right as
it’s happening
and he’s like all sweaty looking
I I
honestly I thought we were going to get
him going like h like you know as if he
was being poked with pins
But this this
was good enough
It was good
And then it comes back
later and it’s it’s really it’s just so
silly
It’s like
yeah, you can keep thinking that this
woo woo stuff Joy is doing
Well, it’s something’s happening
Something seems to be happening
She has some power,
right
So, we’re at Jessica Ry’s
hotel suite
And um it’s just full of
flowers and balloons
And I’m like,
really
People sent these to her because
her guy like dumped her
It just feels a
little silly
Over the top
Over the top
Over the top
And of course, who’s
knocking at the door
And yet
again, someone groans at the sight of
her
Yes,
Jess was just like,
“Yes,
yes, she is
“
And I was definitely picking up on what
you mentioned last episode where Joy
sometimes has this like Kitty Farmer
from Donnie Darkco vibe
And it’s that
like impassioned over-the-top
whoa whoa whoa whoa kind of talking
I
like totally heard it here
I don’t your commitment to
sparkle motion
Um, so Joy of course is trying to
comfort Jessica and it’s really
hilarious because she’s talking about
the fact that there’s like alcohol in
the suite and um like is she tempted and
Jessica like admits like opening the
cabinet and then resisting but she like
keeps talking about she’s eating all
these snacks to cope which is really
funny
That I know that comes up a lot
and it feels very again in the like fat
shaming like oh she ate food like oh she
must be really troubled
It’s so silly
And then of course she insists that
they go to an AA meeting again because
she’s going to just try to whatever smoo
some more
I
I don’t understand Joy
I mean
obviously
Um so then we go back to
Jade’s motel
So, we turn to the place
where the cops saw Jade’s car
Um, I
love your note here
I’m
laughing at my own note cuz there’s like
very moody neon lighting like all
through this scene
And I was like, “Oh,
this is like Joel Schumacher practicing
for Batman Forever
” Cuz that’s like how
that whole movie looks
That’s the only time like the style that
we might imagine from that comes
through
Everything else is just like
bright and soap opery
So, the guy from the very first scenes
in the first episode
makes his way to Jade’s room with a gun
Um, she almost gets away to her car, but
then this dude catches up and Munos is
there
He’s not just there
He literally
slides in sideways on his motorcycle,
flips a giant table to use as a shield
and then shoots the guy through the
window
Like it is dramatic,
right
And I was just like that was the
murderer, right
Like I was like trying
to figure out like wait
And we I mean
we don’t really know, I guess
But
he is the one who brought the woman with
her and then she’s the one who was found
dead
Yeah, it’s likely
But that is just like out of
nowhere it just gets like super
dramatic
Um
action
and yeah, Muno shoots a guy
Yeah, he sure does
That’s just like
kind of never really Yeah, that’s just
what happened
And we’re good
We’ll
we’ll move on
So now, even though Perry hasn’t
been able to reach Roger, he just shows
up at the Malibu house almost
immediately saying he doesn’t have much
time, which is so [ ] annoying and he is just full of his [ ] excuses
He’s like saying, “Oh,
I have to get my taxes in order and my
divorce and
I do like at first Perry sort of stands
her ground
” She says, “I know
everyone’s supposed to be laidback out
here by the beach, but I’m not like
that
” And I was like, “Yeah
” But all
he has to do is get a little bit like
puppy dog eyes
And she forgives him and
agrees to meet him in Carmel
And I’m
just like, “So much for her being the
brain
Don’t do it, girl
But I also like it’s like there’s more
love bombing happening here, of course
But she kind of seems to like it because
then she’s like, “You could ask me to
beg a little bit more
” Like she’s like
playing with it a little bit at least
So it works on her
We know it works on
her, I guess, because
Yeah
So, um, so more scenes between
Jade and Ron
Is that his name
Saying my name’s Ron
[Music]
Quick editor’s note
Uh, the character
of Sergeant Munoz in credits online says
that his name was Joe Munoz
And in this
episode, for the first time, he
introduces himself as Ron, which is the
actor’s actual name
Anyways, back to
the show
Sergeant
My name’s Ron
Um, they’re back at the scene of the
crime, but basically they’re there, the
cops are like around, they show all the
lights, and then they show Jade and
she’s no longer wearing the wig that she
was wearing in the previous scene, and
her hair looks like perfect, like just
right
Of course it does
Um, and then Munoz tells her the truth
about her stupid like quote unquote
lawyer lawyer friend Hal
Um, and then
Jade makes up a story to Munos’s boss so
he wouldn’t get in trouble
Yeah, cuz he’s like not supposed to be
working on the case
She makes up a real
convoluted story
I I like couldn’t even
follow it
But, uh, she’s like doing him
a solid cuz he saved her life, right
So, okay
And then there’s there’s something
weird here
I guess I didn’t catch it,
but I think he gives her a ride home on
his motorcycle
Even though her car was at the motel
Maybe she was too shaken up to drive
I
don’t know
I guess that makes sense
But it’s also
funny because there’s Well, there’s a
scene later where she’s like, he says
something about the motorcycle and she
like says she doesn’t mind
I’m like,
wait, you already had a scene earlier
where she was riding on it
Like, I
didn’t even catch that
But it
definitely seems like they’re setting up
a romance with these two
And
totally, I you’ll see later on
I’m
like, “Yeah, I knew it
” Um, but that’s
cute because I thought he was going to
be more of a like love triangle with
Perry
Like I thought it’d be like I
don’t know
I just saw them as having a
little bit of chemistry, too
So,
yeah
Interesting there
It is a little interesting
So, we get the sisters by the pool
This
is I didn’t make a note about this, but
I almost was wondering if this was
actually Drew in this scene because you
never get a closeup of her
It’s very
far away
And when she gets out of the
pool, they shoot her from like the like
ankles, you know, like
And it’s just
strange
Like there’s no close-up of
her
But anyway,
that’s weird
So, we get like 3 seconds of at
least TR’s voice and she tells Joy that
she’s going to go meet the homeless girl
um that she’s like the character in
Eric’s script that she’s going to play
is based on
And then she quickly pieces
out because Scott arrives and she says,
“That guy gives me the creeps
” He
should be feeling more than that
I like how she says it like loud
right in front of him
He did like assault you in the first
episode
Yes, he did
Um and of course he’s there
to ask Joy to remove the hex off of him
He literally says, “I want you to take
your hex off me, you witch
” Like how
would he know that
But this is the best part is that like
his urologist, his doctor
apparently told him that the only
explanation for his problem of male
sexual inac inadequacy is a hex
That’s some science right there
That’s
some medical science
Have you had any women recently who
might who you might have upset
This is
who might be a little witchy
They like crystals and astrology
That’s the only explanation I have
Um,
oh my god
So, the the tree
are here, which are Jade’s parents, and
they’re suddenly going to go home, and
they’re totally fine with her not
marrying that guy, and there’s like no
resolution there whatsoever
Maybe there was a hex on them, too
Ah,
maybe
Good job, Joy
And then there’s
this really upsetting, creepy scene
where they’re saying goodbye to her and
the stepdad is like slowly looming in
menacingly towards her for a kiss
goodbye
It goes on forever until she
like turns and runs away
It is so
gross,
right
So weird
It’s creepy and is weird because no time
before that do we have any I guess we
know he’s an [ ] Well, I mean, she does when they have that scene where she’s like trying to blackmail him, she says like, “I’ll tell everybody and she never says what ” So, I’m like, “Oh, he abused her her whole life ” Or it’s awful I hate it Let’s move on to something nicer We get more shots of this huge property There’s like a whole ass lagoon like gazebo I guess you’d call that area They’ve never shown this It’s Can we believe it’s on the same property Like do they show enough to make it look like it is Yeah, I think so because the entryway to the house is very specific and when um like there’s some tracking shots It looks like it’s all the same place in my opinion So Perry and Jade are sitting out in this gazebo and they have a talk about the fake lawyer dude and Jade tells her she doesn’t have to move out anymore And for some reason she’s suddenly like in a really good mood Like this is the best mood we’ve seen Jade in for this entire show Even though the last scene is her running away in slow motion to again this again This not really sensical dicho or not dichotomy justosition Oh my god So weird But like I’m like why didn’t Jade tell Perry about the shooting I don’t know Like she doesn’t even mention it There might be something in the newspaper related to my case and that’s like all she tells her, right She doesn’t like I don’t know give you any give her any more information Ah maybe she I don’t know Maybe she thinks Perry will be jealous that Munoz showed up Just kidding So then we get this scene where um Lindsay is on the beach where the homeless are with Eric and the kids there are sharing their stories with Lindsay and Eric Um and of course Joy shows up because of course she does Before we get into what happens in this scene, Drew’s hair here is like very it’s first of all, it’s the very yellowy blonde it’s been the whole episode, but it’s more like sllicked back and straight and gelled and it was giving me big time Tori Spelling mid9s vibes And Tori has admitted to like copying Drew style in the mid ‘9s So, I have to wonder if there’s an inspiration here There’s like that little flip at the bottom which I feel like really feels like Tori spelling Okay, so Lindsay is telling Joy about the homeless girl And let’s listen to this because Joy is such a [ ]
Hi
I’m sort of busy right now
So, is that the girl you’re going to be
playing in Eric’s movie
That’s Annie
Her mother threw out when
she was 12 years old
The pimp got her
hooked on heroin and turned her on the
streets, and now she’s 17 and dying of
AIDS
You’re going to play a teenage runaway
addicted to drugs, homeless hooker with
AIDS in Eric’s movie
What an attractive screen debut for you
Also, I just had this like lightning
bolt moment of um realization
That’s
like what that Sublime song is about
Annie’s 12 years old
just gonna be a
horror the wrong way,
right
Yeah,
I know you, Bradley Null
You’re
watching 2000 Malibu
That’s so funny
Okay, so then um Lindsay is saying like
this movie she thinks it’s going to be
like the best thing that’s ever happened
to her and she knows about Joy
pretending to be an alcoholic to go to
these AA meetings with Jessica
Like
she’s totally calling her out
So,
finally
Yes, finally
So, I’m helping Jessica with her
recovery
No, you’re using a serious illness like
alcoholism to kiss her butt, and I think
it’s pathetic, and it’s never going to
work because she doesn’t like me, and
I’m not right for the part anyway
But then, yeah, Joy goes on to say that
she’s like going to get rid of Jessica
Like,
yeah, it’s going to now be the like the
Lindsay rule show or some [ ] Yeah, she is Once again, she there’s no like limit that she won’t go Like what is she talking about Killing her Like what the hell Oh, I just realized the making her drink again Final scene She’s going to make her drink again I do like how Drew’s voice is just like, I’m so fed up with you You know, you can really hear it It’s so good So Munos and Jade take a walk And again, I’m like I’m having whiplash Like all of a sudden, she’s like super hostile to him and she’s accusing him of working for her parents out of nowhere It makes no sense I do like his response He says, “I’m not for sale I’m not a trick And I’m not working for your parents ” And then, of course, just like every other dude on the show, he says like, “You can trust me I’m not going to hurt you ” The same old lines that they’re all saying How can that that not just be like a broken record at that point like guys just saying trust me I know we like Muno, but we don’t know where this would have gone I It’s just such an odd scene that comes out of nowhere and doesn’t go anywhere It’s also seems weird like Jade’s outfit in that scene is like Yeah, I noticed it too Almost like nude dress with like gold chain straps Like I’m like what is this You can take the sex worker out of the sex, but you I something like that Something like that So then we see Joy go to a place called Eva’s Psychic Supplies cuz of course, right Right on the nose So Joy walks in Um she tells her about the love spell she’s cast on Scott and she says it’s this selfish jerk who might be her soulmate I do kind of love that she’s like really into him even though, you know, she’s she’s not very nice to him They don’t have a good friendship, but like part of her just wants him She wants begging for her like a dog because she’s so cool You’re so cool So, the psychic Eva is just scandalized by the fact that Joy used a voodoo spell to harm him And I love her response to this Yes, you worked on a spell to harm him Well, I was just fooling around I didn’t think it would really work Amateurs I just really like Pepper It’s so dumb It’s so good It’s so good And um and of course she says like Joy has released the power of evil and is in grave danger And then she says, “No one escapes their karmic dues ” And like Joy Joy does look scared Oh yeah, she she knows this is real, right [Music] Another small editor’s note here The psychic is played by an actress named Ivonne D Carlo, who was the original Lily Monster from the TV show The Monsters from the 1960s Pretty cool All right, so we’ve got a little bit of girl talk in Jade’s room Um, Jade is trying to loan some lingerie to Perry because I think she’s going to go on she’s going to go to Carmel, meet up with Roger Lindsay’s hair in this scene is already totally different The Tory Spelling straightness is gone and there’s like curls back in her hair, but it’s supposed to be the same day, so that cracked me up Um, and then we get this very long, very heavy-handed PSA about safe sex, which is like, it’s great that they’re doing that, but it’s so like you cannot help but roll your eyes at some of these lines And it’s so long Like, we can’t play the whole thing We’ll just get some of the best parts in here So, what do you use I’ve always used condoms Whether you sleep with Eric or not, you know, I don’t know if that’s right, but if you decide to, you have to protect yourself Yeah, but Eric is I mean, he looks so healthy I mean, I know that he doesn’t have AIDS It doesn’t matter Even if he’s been tested, there’s a six-month latency period where the virus doesn’t show up You have to take responsibility for yourself So, like after school special, you think it’s going to be like, “Okay, that’s enough ” And then it’s like, you know, a guy really respects a girl who’s prepared And I love that Like but he’ll have one I don’t need to worry about it But he looks so healthy It’s Yeah, it’s kind of great, but also heavy-handed and kind of funny Yeah, I do kind of love this in just position to Drew’s female condom commercial that she did four years later, though, where she’s like, “You better protect yourself, girl This is simple Communication is the key What did you do to protect yourself today ” The female condom some fatal disease did fall upon you How simple all of a sudden it would be to have protected yourself I like that Jade really got through to her and now she’s just What did you do to protect yourself So, even though Drew looks totally different than earlier, it’s supposed to be the same day She looks so lovely Yeah, I really like this outfit I would totally wear this top And yes, she’s beautiful There’s some really good close-ups in this scene that I looked of her When there’s that serious conversation happening about safe sex, there are some beautiful shots of Drew So, while you’re getting your safe sex information, you’re getting some like gorgeous imagery There you go All right So, Munos is back at the house He says his guys have found Allison, the crazy ex, quote unquote And Allison said she’d been out of town at her sister, so they can’t do anything unless she makes another move And Perry’s super pissed about all this And Roger’s still MIA, by the way They can’t find him anymore Of course he is And on Munos’s way out, Jade runs out and apologizes to him and they set up a date And I was right There’s a little little something going on with these two I got to say, she feels like very much like the adult of the series, right How old do you think she was Because I looked it up and I was like, “Oh my god ” Younger or older than you think younger reput, right You just tell me what you think You’re right on She comes I mean like she comes off like she could be over 40 or like so much younger than me, right You know, and like she’s just that’s not the way that her character feels It’s just kind of No, I mean I’m just I’m guessing not like Okay If I was guessing like how old the character is supposed to be, I might say like in her 40s So, we’re back on the beach at the homeless encampment and it’s the same day Lindsay’s wearing the same outfit So, I’m like, “Okay, she must have just taken a lunch break She went up back to the house to find out about condoms Now, she’s back down there ” But she also curled her hair even more So, this is the third time this day that her hair has changed Cracked me up That is really funny Like, there was no like continuity Like, no, not at all So, after hearing the stories um that all these homeless kids were um telling about their lives, um Eric is like kind of like getting really romantic and saying he doesn’t want to waste any time He’s really realizing how short life is and he doesn’t want to miss out on any love and immediately tells her he loves her and she reciprocates, which is really sweet, but it’s also like it this one feels more earned at least I’m like, “Yeah, they’ve been having Yeah, I I’ll let them have their love ” Or maybe it’s just Drew so good at acting in love I love you, Erica I don’t I don’t know Um, this is crazy I love you, too I’m totally nuts about you Just kiss me Just kiss me Just kiss me And then heavy make out Heavy make out And it it goes on for like a while These two get the smooches in And then they make plans to spend the night together The next night, of course, she says, “After Joy falls asleep, I’ll come over ” But they’re basically like planning to be together like Yeah If this was um Why can’t I think of what show Wait, we’re just talking about Save by the Bell before because it comes up in my life a lot All right, so M we’re getting towards the end, guys This is like the big finale So Munos comes over and brings a tape to the house for Jade He found it in the the van of that guy that he shot And I’m like, this is how police handle evidence, right Like he hasn’t even listened to it himself He brings it over for her to listen When they’re a one maybe two person police department, apparently he’s just like, “Jay’s my partner now Jay, you got to tell me what’s on this tape So, she hears on the tape her lawyer friend setting her up for the murder, like framing her, and it feels like she recognizes the other voice in this conversation, but I could not I even literally held the speaker up to my ear and I’m like, it’s just some anonymous dude as far as I can tell And they also like I feel like Munoz asks her if she recognizes it and maybe they don’t even have her say or they end it on like a cliffhanger of her looking like like really surprised Yeah, totally Um All right So now there’s this huge storm Like it’s just like wild storm outside and Joy is like saying she’s about to go out which is kind of funny Um Lindsay is being kind of snippy with her Um, but she says that she’s got to go out because she needs to secure Lindsay’s future You’re going out in this weather When I come back, I’ll have secured your career forever Then you’ll know who really is on your side Joy, please Please, Joy, please And Joy is a little suspicious when Lindsay said she’s not going anywhere She’s just taking a shower, which like I don’t know why you would be suspicious of that, but okay And she goes and snoops through Lindsay’s purse, which I noticed has a daisy print on it again The daisy so early in Drew’s Daisy Times It’s so fun And she finds condoms When does she have time to go get those So Lindsay catches her and of course a fight ensues Of course it does You’re sleeping with him, aren’t you You didn’t hear a word I said You’re going through my stuff Give me those No, Lindsay He’s going to hurt you You don’t understand We’re in love and it’s none of your business anyway This is my business I’m your sister Yeah, but you’re not my keeper This is ridiculous I was actually going to wait until you fell asleep to sneak out afterwards Joy, I love you, but you can’t manipulate me anymore Yeah, girl Ooh, I love thunder in the background The thunder crash So, she’s like, you can’t anymore I also noticed she’s wearing her necklace even in this scene where she’s like in a towel I think she also wears it in the pool, right I’m not going to scroll back up So, she never took it off probably I swear this is like a Jamie Walters necklace and she would not take it off the whole time they were together That is I’m calling it now One point we’re going to find out that’s true Yeah, probably So Joy is telling Lindsay that she thinks there’s an evil curse on her and Lindsay’s reply is like, “You’re really becoming pathetic ” And just like leaves But of course, like Joy hasn’t been telling her about all the crazy [ ]
she’s been involved in
So like
that’s true
She has no idea
Yeah,
exactly
So, Joy calls Jessica Raleigh sweet and
I was like, I love how this famous movie
star is just staying under her real name
and anybody can go to her room, call it,
right
And she invites her to an AA meeting
because, oh, Jessica’s been eating a
bunch of chips and ice cream, so
trouble
Uh, and then while she’s
inviting her, she’s like packing a full
bottle of liquor
So, I think your
theory is right
And I even like wrote it while I
was watching like, “Oh, she’s probably
get her drunk and blackmail her to give
Lindsay the job back or the whole case
or to get make her look so bad or make
you go back to rehab or whatever it is
to make her fall off the wagon
Um, all right
So, then we get one of
the like most dramatic and kind of
amazing
amazing
scenes, which is
the the storm is just getting crazier
Joyy’s like trying to close the doors,
but they’re like flying open
She like
can’t control them
And then she gets
struck by lightning
Like it’s not even super clear
It’s
like the lightning flashes and then you
just see her fall to the ground
But Lindsay like runs in to help her
And this is it
This is our wrap on Drew
for the entire series
Let’s
hear her last lines in 2000 Malibu Road
Are you okay
That’s it
Wrap on true
I mean, you even hear the like lightning
crash back before that
So, it’s like,
how did Lindsay know
Either way, rap on Drew
Oh, I’m sort of
sad
I’m not going to lie
It was fun to
see her in all these different like
scenarios and outfits and stuff
All right
We got to also wrap up the
entire series on everybody
So, the
final scene, Perry is working late in
her office and I’m like, why is she
always working in the dark with a small
little desk lamp
And she calls Roger’s room in Carmel and
leaves a message with her flight arrival
time
And as she’s leaving her office,
going to the parking garage, I think
she’s being followed and uhoh, it’s a
guy in a black leather jacket
It’s the
evil Roger
It’s sucks
Yeah, it sucks
And she like thinks he’s joking at
first
and then pretty quickly he tells her,
“I’m not Roger
” And attacks her
And so I’m like, he probably did
I
think I said it earlier, but he probably
did attack and rape Allison
I think
that’s what we’re supposed to take away
from it
But also like yeah, split personality
Like what is it
Because he seemed to
maybe really believe that he didn’t do
it, but also he’s a sch smoozer
So who
knows
We won’t know the end
I know that’s the end of the entire
series is this attack
It’s just awful
It’s like not how you want this show to
end, but it’s how it did at least in the
US
So okay, let’s talk about this
weirdness
and we have to mention it, but I’m also
like there’s a huge grain of salt with
all of this for me because I cannot
track down like legitimate information
So on Wikipedia
there is a rumored international extra
ending for the show and the only source
that they list is this book about
melodramatic miniseries
And there’s a
tiny tiny little paragraph in that book
I went and looked it up and it says, you
know, it aired in the US as a six
episode pilot for like a continual show
and it ended with a cliffhanger which
was resolved by a voiceover epilogue
added in for overseas audiences
Okay,
so I cannot find that anywhere
Like all
we can go off of is what is in
uh Wikipedia, which I’m like, well, who
came up with this because there’s a lot
of details here,
right
So, I think I’m just kind of
assuming that this is like a
transcription of the narration, but
again, we don’t know and we might we
might never know
I mean,
so I’m going to briefly summarize it
There’s a lot of details if you want to
go to the Wikipedia, but basically it
says that when it was screened overseas,
so I’m like, that’s not even specific as
to what country it was, right
Um, there
was extra scenes where the stepdad’s men
shoot the fake lawyer guy, make it look
like a suicide, and have a confession
that he did the murder that Jade was
accused of, which like I could see that
And that like there’s another scene
where Munoz breaks the news to Jade that
all the charges have been dropped
And
then so like,
who knows
And then supposedly now we
get that closing narration that goes
over like montage of archive footage
wrapping up uh like resolutions for all
the characters
Apparently it says here’s just like a
couple lines
So Jade married Munoz and
had a child
That’s why I
looked up her age, by the way
I was
like have a child
I thought she was in
her 40s
Not that I, you know, didn’t
have a baby in my 40s, but in the It was
the ‘9s, guys
That wasn’t so normal
It’s true
So, then it says Joyce
survived being struck by lightning and
went back to Chicago to teach astrology
at a local college
Oh, Chicago is
Oh, is that where they’re from
I don’t know
Remember we were talking
about it
I think is Chicago considered the
Midwest
I’m going to Google this
probably
I think
but I thought they were from like a
small town
H maybe they never even say
it’s considered the Midwest, but you
know, but I don’t know
Um, and then
Lindsay became a world famous actress,
of course
All right, that was the plan all along
And Harry, this is so sad
Harry had a
breakdown after her rape and ended up
institutionalized
Oh my god
Like whether this is real or someone
just made it up for Wikipedia
Whoever
came up with this, it’s this is [ __ ]
This is so not cool
No matter what, whether it’s a fake
thing or the person who wrote it
And I’m like, is that supposed
to be karma for how she treated the
psycho ex on the stand
I mean, I’m sad that there aren’t like
that any of the like fake scenes that
were in the finale weren’t Drew, you
know
Cuz then I’d be like, we have to track
it down
I would love to know like I mean it is
possible it aired once, let’s say, in
the UK and no one recorded it and
digitized it
Of course, like we talked
about that before
This this show is
very ephemeral in the way that like it
never had officially come out on any
kind of release
I’m thinking about the fact like we
might never see a higher quality
version
I know it’s awful
That’s so weird
I should say never
Who
knows what’ll happen with the future of
the DM when we get
but I would love love love to know if
anyone out there like says, “Oh yeah, I
live overseas and I remember right it
airing this way
” Like I would love
that
But we’ll see
reach out to us if
you if you are that person
How do you
drew pottage Gmail
I was just gonna say that like if
you’re listening
Um all right
So the
cancellation of the show was already in
the news by the end of September
So
aired beginning of September like on the
9th and then by the end you have a thing
that was printed in September 28th that
says um pretty similar to what we said
Lisa Hartman Black was quoted as saying
in the first episode of this of this
series
Um,
so Schumacher said that Malibu Road
would have been renewed for mid-season
except Aaron Spelling and CBS couldn’t
come to a license fee agreement
So too
expensive
It says it was an it was
awkward for him
It was a very expensive
show to produce
A reported 1
2 million
an hour, which I have no idea like how
that compares, right
But also the network wanted to keep
Aaron Spelling’s Melro’s place, which
would have put his shows competing
against himself
So,
it’s just
there we go
It wasn’t that the storyline wasn’t like
Jeff’s kiss
Definitely wasn’t that
It is interesting that that thing that
talks about it says like ran as a six
episode pilot
That’s an interesting way
to think of it
I think that makes sense
though because it’s like this little
midseason, you know, mini
thing that they did and then they’re
hoping that get picked up for fall for a
real season cuz back then,
you know, it was like 22 23 episodes a
season, right
So, this is kind of unusual that it’s
only it’s six, but it really only aired
on four different nights
Like, that’s
very small
It is very small
And that’s it, guys
We are leaving the
uh what’s it called
Beach water
We’re exiting the beach beach water
The tide is receding
I had so much fun doing this
Like,
yeah, this was a this was a fun series
It was fun because it was so outrageous,
but it was also fun because it it’s like
such a lesser familiar part of Drew’s
filmography for both of us
So, we’re
like revisiting something we’ve barely
touched on before
So, I really liked
being able to do that
I like having
that excuse to like go do that
It’s also kind of funny to think of us
like dedicating three episodes when like
movies only get one
Although we did
have a two-parter
We had a couple
two-parters, but either way, like it’s
funny, but it’s it’s the amount of
content
We really went into it
We hope you guys had fun
And it was our summer break
Yeah, our summer break
And also, we’re
filming this early, so that’s one reason
why the top of the show is a little
light
But either way,
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I’m an Ashley
And hello
Feels like it’s been a long time
I I kind of was like, wait, have
we really not recorded in like three
weeks
Like
that’s what happens when we do one super
early for once in our lives
So this is weird
Like it’s
probably almost the longest we’ve spent
Oh, Nick not recording something
away from each other
I was going to say that and I’m like, is
that dramatic
All right
So, I mean, let me talk about
last episode because of course I have
the like update of all updates
So, if you guys don’t know, we were
covering Drew’s 1992 television series
2000 Malibu Road
We did it um as like
our summer series
It was a summer TV
series
We thought it’d be fun
We did
all six episodes over the course of
three of our episodes
And throughout
the entire thing, I was like, I got to
find this house
I got to find this house
Number one, you know, I love
filming locations and figuring them out
Number two, you know, I’m like the
freaking dog with the bone
When I like
want to find something out, I like
research it
to death
To death
But I kept going, Ashley, it doesn’t
matter
Like, you’re not
having any luck
Like, let it go
No one cares
No one
watched this show, but I care
So, literally our last episode comes
out, you know, our last Drew’s Day
And
I was like, h I just I just want to look
again because I had been in Malibu,
right
Like before um that episode came
out, but after we had recorded it,
I literally drove down PCH
in Malibu
And I was looking around and
I was like, I bet I could do this with
Aerial Views
Like, I bet I could find
it by looking at Google Maps aerial
views
And so that’s what I did
And I
was looking specifically for the pool
because the pool is quite unusually
shaped
I’m like going going going
I mean I
look through like miles and then I see
one
I was like, “Oh, like it’s not
perfect, but this like it almost looks
right
Like it’s it’s got the same weird
shape, but it’s not identical
” I’m
like, “But it’s set back from the house
the same way
” I sent you like a
screenshot of the map
And I was like, I cannot see
you
you had gotten so used to looking at
these blurry overhead images and I was
like I don’t know what you’re talking
about and then you started sending more
and more and I was like
yeah because I was so excited
I mean
it’s funny because I should have looked
at the house that is on this property
and I should have gone that’s not it
because it’s 100% not the house but my
instinct and I listened to it I was like
maybe they rebuilt the house and so I
went down a huge rabbit hole
I will not
get into every step of what I did
The
house is currently for sale, which is so
funny
Um, but this house was built like
a decade ago,
and the one that was there previously
was the house from 2000 Malibu Road
And
so it was located, if anyone cares, at
24834
Pacific Coast Highway
It’s currently
for sale for $36
That puts
Casey from Mad Love’s House to shame
That was only like 4 million
I
was like, I don’t remember the price,
but I feel like this is like the amount
of money where it’s like, huh
What are we doing
It’s like a
freaking compound now,
right
Houses in Los Angeles are like
minimum like a million and a half now
Like almost no matter where you are,
just for no Yeah
Any little thing
So, this was wild
deeply satisfying to
like I found like a a random historical
photo of the h the previous house like
on the Malibu
Historical Society
And I was like
matching that
I was freaking
out cuz I was like, “Oh my god, this is
absolutely it
” Even the um lawn chairs
or not lawn chairs um patio furniture
from the show is from the same set as
what was there when they took that
photo
Photographed it
So, I I texted
our friend Lindsay of I am not
astalker
com
and everything palmspr
com and I was
like, “Lindsay, I found the house
” Cuz
I had told her I was looking, but she
just didn’t have the bandwidth to help
me at that time
And she’s like, “Oh my god, I’m so
stupid
I have a post on this house
It was used in the original very first
season of The Bachelor as the house
where the Bachelor lived
“
Oh my god
So then I got to see her post
which we will link to and it had you
know she had done it a long time ago so
it had like the aerial views at the time
so she had all kinds of images I could
look at and she had screenshots from the
Bachelor
I went and found it to like
watch it online for free anyway and took
more
It was so exciting for me
I’m
like I don’t know what it is about my
brain that like flips out with nerdom
when I see this stuff but like
everything I could match was just like
yes oh my god I found it this is right
this is right like so exciting cuz there
are so many like unique features and
then you zoom in on the thing that is
like unique from the top and the idea
that they rebuilt it like I’m I’m almost
like did they rebuild it because after
the Bachelor people kept trying to like
go and visit the house from the Bachelor
Maybe I think whoever built it in its
current state is just like out of
control extravagant
Like if you saw
what it looked like now, you’d be like,
“Come on, who needs this
“
But yeah, it looks completely different
The old house looked really great
Like
I didn’t really think it I was like,
“Oh, it’s kind of like plain, but there
are things about it that actually like
look kind of cool
” Like
like the archway at the entrance
Yeah,
there’s a lot of neat things about it
Um I don’t know when it was originally
built
I don’t think I was able to find
that, but we can at least say 80s, you
know, maybe
or earlier
I I would almost guess like
60s
Yeah, it could be
So, that is the
finale of 2000 Malibu Road
That’s putting maybe putting like the
nail in that coffin
I don’t know
I
don’t know if we should say it’s dead
I
mean, it is dead, but
I don’t know if anyone’s ever talked
about that show more than us, to be
honest
When you search that show on
Google, a lot of the results lead back
to us
Well, I guess including our website that
has 2000 Malibut Road memorabilia
For a long time on IMDb, the like cover
image was like a scan of one of our ads
with our watermark and everything
So,
I love that
I love that
I love that we
like thought to do watermarks because
now it’s like, oh my god, it still leads
to us
We’re still here
People love to steal our [ ] let me tell you And we’re still here So, if somebody cared enough to to see that Anyways, um longevity, it’s a thing Um okay, I feel like we haven’t had this segment in a while because Drew’s show hasn’t been on So, uh let’s talk about what Drew proclaimed her love for recently I love love It has been a while since we have had a list of Drew loves, but u there’s a reason we got an update this time around Let’s just go through the list first Drew Les a butter churn of course Of course she does Frank Lloyd Wright A Q& A, of course And going places with her friends Absolutely Um, that’s okay So, we have a little one Um, guys, the show is coming back soon So, Oh my gosh Drew loves we’ll start to get um meaty again just the way we like we love talking about the meat of the sandwich We also this week for the first time in forever have a Druism You know those cool little isms that we do Both of these are coming from the same source and we’ll tell you guys about that in a minute But I’ll just set this up Okay, this is Drew talking about how in society these days, people are waiting for people to make mistakes so they can jump on them because it is insane that we just take each other down and we’re looking for it and we’re waiting for it and it’s like a dog in a table waiting for that piece of food to fall and then it’s like all over the [ ] lenolium floor
because yes, that’s thing
It’s so good
I love it so much
I’m so happy we have
that audio
Watching her do that like hammy like
angry Drew is the best
I do love Angry Drew
Why do I love it
so much
Yes, we talk about hate
We love Drew when she hates things
More Drew Love soon
Um, let’s talk about what’s going
on recently cuz news is popping up,
guys
Here we go with the news,
everybody
So, as you said, the Drew
Barrymore Show is coming back as we
know
Um, but the episodes are going to start
filming very soon
So the in studio
audience, all that, it starts on
September 3rd
So I think the first few
shows are already sold out, but if you
guys are going to be in New York, go to
the website and you can sign up for
tickets and then come back and tell us
about it
And I should I should make a trip
out there
Yes, you should
I’ve got some new friends out there
because uh
my New Yorker interns finally
I was just in Palm
Springs last week
So, now let’s talk about the
source of some of these things I’ve been
talking about was this awesome thing
that just like randomly came out and was
so cool
So, Bill Maher has a
podcast called Club Random and we got
this random appearance by Drew
Talk about random
2 hours and 15 minutes long and
like seemingly unedited
like like I
thought it was like pretty much
just all out there
Um there was nothing
wild about it, but it was so fun to see
Drew like loose like this
Very loose
I was talking to our friend
Ranatada of Drew Barrymore Brazil about
this and I was saying the way Drew is in
this appearance or interview how she’s
loose like you said or a little bit less
showy I guess I would say
feels very similar to me to when we last
saw her and when the cameras turned off
and she started talking to us I was like
that’s the that’s the girl the version
of her that we were getting
is the same version that was in this
interview
like that like looks at you and is like
putting their attention on you
and dropping the fbomb nonstop
So I this comparison you
made
Yeah
It weirdly gave me like weird
reminiscence is that a word of her
appearances on Letterman and like I
don’t I can’t really say why but I think
you’re right
I was feeling
like this really fun, playful sort of
thing that was happening that like I
don’t know Bill Maher well, but like I
don’t think this is his normal vibe
Like I don’t
Yeah, I thought he was like sort of
problematic
I don’t know that much
about him either
But I was like, “Oh,
is this going to be like a problem that
she went on here, but yeah,
people loved it
“
People loved it
I agree that it was it
felt Letterman and I think it was maybe
like the flirtiness that was between
them
There were so many people in the
comments
made a lot of sense
that seemed like people were like this
is in Bill like we have never seen and
like she’s bringing this out to him and
like all this like interesting stuff and
there was playfulness that but that just
felt like Drew
and so she you know she’s flirty that’s
how she is
It could also be that he’s like
sort of this crotchety old man normally
but when he’s talking to Drew it’s like
whoa where did this come from
And he seemed surprised by her too in in
a really pleasant way
So it’s sweet
So, we’ll get into some of the details
Um, she was wearing a Flower Films
t-shirt that was like super cute,
simple
Did it have like different
colored versions
of like the logo
I want one real bad
Who can we ask
If
you’re out there listening and you have
some power
Who could we ask
Films archival stuff
Send them our way
Anyways, uh, we talked about the potty
mouth
It’s so fun
I always love when Drew was
like, “Fuck, [ ] fuck ” like we’re not because that’s how she talks normally in real life, right She just is like plays it clean on her show She’s got to date She has to Yeah And she can That’s the thing She’s like America’s sweetheart, you know And people also think she’s a sweetheart because she’s real when she can be I don’t know Some other fun details is Drew was drinking tea java, of course and and they kind of like really made it obvious that she was just drinking her tea java because it was kind of funny because I kept expecting at the beginning that she would point out that it wasn’t alcohol and of course there’s a bunch of people who just saw in the beginning I thought she didn’t drink anymore and then there were other people who were like did you even watch the full thing you can freaking see the bottle of tea and she’s refilling it throughout the interview right and I guess if they’re just listening to well I guess if they’re listening to it they wouldn’t even think about it yeah that’s true but it’s Like it’s it’s sweet because we know that like that is her drink of choice and she’s got it Like they’re they’re not showing the label, I don’t think But we know it’s the Oh, I saw the label Oh, you did She might even say it She might even actually say something about the tea Yeah, that’s true Or like something about I don’t know being made of tea cuz you drink so much of it I don’t know Something like that Am I making that up I don’t know She’s definitely said that at some point All right So, I’m going to let you take like one of the coolest details randomly amazingly cool details This very much feels in the same wheelhouse or the same like space as me freaking out over the 2000 Malibu Roadhouse But um okay, so the interview starts and there’s like this weird implication that they are very near where Drew had lived when her house the house that burnt down in 2001 So the house she lived on on Cherokee for a couple years prior to that and he talks about when the house burned down He had only lived there for two weeks right next door and I did like verify where his house is matches right next door to that property There’s a part where they discuss the fire so I thought it’d be fun to kind of listen to that I will always blame myself for that fire I’ll always be like, I did something wrong You know, I’m like a guilty person by nature Everything is my fault Well, sure You wanted to get out of the marriage, so you burned the house down I think we all we all if only it was that easy I guess I found it interesting because we were discussing it so many times recently and like how did the fire get started and like of course she blames herself for it I mean that’s her nature I understand that it’s also my nature to like feel guilty for things that impacted me but I had nothing no control over And then I was like I’m sorry what And I like rewind it They are recording the space they are recording in is on Drew’s old property and it was the yoga studio that she apparently never really used They’re at her property The part that didn’t burn down like apparently he owns that and now he records out of it And it’s like this very specific it has this like special crooked door like slanted door It’s shown in um InStyle magazine when they did the feature on her house in 99 And we will share these pictures on the episode page cuz it’s really cool to like see it And they’re talking about the tiki bar that she built that’s like on basically on top of this building and how it’s still there And apparently there’s like a screening room somewhere over here that’s still there I was like I was it was crazy to me how casual they were being about it I’m like, “What ” burned down I guess because they knew, you know, like they knew that that maybe maybe before they started recording there was like moments of her like, “Oh my god, that’s so weird to be back here that we didn’t get to see because it was just like, oh yeah, we’re in my old like part of my old house ” And I’m like, “What ” I also like how she said something about like I could have just lived in one of the other things on this property Like why did I move away from the property Like I was like, “Oh, interesting ” And then we got another little detail about We knew that Drew’s dad lived near her house at one point Did we know like what house I guess maybe now we do I feel like I feel like I did think it was this one, but that might have just been like guesswork Um or maybe it’s talked about in something that’s at this timeline, but either way Drew tells a story about her dad and she like says he was staying like on the property She says right outside the window and she calls it in the treehouse So I’m like what is that Like and Bill was like oh the treehouse Like that’s a whole another thing we never saw anything about And I need to look at aerial view You probably can’t tell I already because it’s in a cuz it’s in a tree Let’s just play this clip where she tells this little anecdote about her dad Right outside this window My dad stayed on the property with me and it was like the only time I ever lived with him cuz he You made him stay outside the window Um well in this pathway here No, he stayed in the house next door Um the treehouse The treehouse He says that he said to me he was like um I said something about uh paranoia to him because he was extremely paranoid Um but he said it’s not paranoia, it’s paranoia And that happened at this house And I was like, “Thank you You finally put a word to how I feel in the world I have [ ]
paranoia
I love that
“
Me, too
We had just read the thing that was
written about like what the dad him and
his son like Drew’s dad and Drew’s like
half brother like selling the Barry
Morabilia
Barry Morbilia
Lots of good
puns there we haven’t really been using
to their full extent
But paranoia
I mean,
and that story is like vaguely familiar
to me, so I might need to like search if
she’s told it before, but I loved
hearing it either way
And he called it the treehouse
So
like we I think it just felt so like oh
my god, of course he lived in a house
that someone would call the treehouse
Of course she did at that time
Um, I just had to like say
I liked this sort of thing that they
cracked up for like a minute about where
Drew where Bill says he remembers Drew
saying the night of the fire or the
night before the fire like I’m cooking
dinner tonight
Then the house caught on fire and they
like talk about it and she’s like you
can’t like write this like you could
just like smash cut like me saying I’m
cooking dinner and then the house like
burning so they got a good laugh
The house burned down
the we’re Tom
Let’s get into
We did have some interesting talk about
Tom Green
very much backed up our kind of
intuitive thoughts about their
relationship where and we just I think
it was when we did movie line October
2003 or one of those one of the last
movie lines we did um it backed up kind
of our thoughts that Drew really didn’t
want to live out their entire romance in
the public eye but she was just trying
to like
go along with it and like that
eventually became too hard to do for
her
I mean, that makes total sense
And I
think that’s like basically what we
said
Because we know that Tom like basically
was like
starting to do almost like Instagram
before Instagram, like blogs on his
website that were like kind of dailyish,
and sometimes it would be a picture of
him and Drew
It was so fun for us
Like I’m sure we have some saved, right
We have we have them all saved
Okay, I love it
Oh my god, they were so
they were so sweet
Like oh my god
So
anyway, that makes sense that that was
hard for Drew because she says, “I’m
very open,
but I’m not bringing cameras into my
personal life until he was like fighting
cancer and that’s how we wanted to deal
with it
I can’t imagine
It didn’t sound like she blamed him
She
was just like,
“That’s not really what I wanted to do,
but I wanted to be like the cool
girlfriend and go along with it
I guess I’ll say one more thing
about this because I like how they kind
of get into relationship talk for a
second and she’s she’s talking about
like altering herself and changing for
Tom
and he’s like she like is going on this
whole spiel and then Bill’s like I don’t
like that you’re saying alter and
change
Yeah,
that’s where you need to like
rethink you’ll realize in 20 more years
that
just be you and you don’t need to change
for anyone
It was interesting the way she
kept phrasing that and it wasn’t even
just about with Tom
It was just in
general like
you do have I think what she was trying
to say was like you do need to make like
compromises in a relationship but she
did keep saying like change and alter
instead
Yeah, it was interesting
Yeah, I think compromise is the is the
um the term she was missing
But I liked
it because it was sort of I don’t know
He he it gave him a chance to say like
you don’t change anything like
Yeah
Oh, I did also like how he told
her the treasure doesn’t get hunted or
doesn’t do the hunting
That’s what it was
Yeah, that was She
was like, “Oh
“
Um, she also talks about how last year
she finally let go of the fear of
getting in trouble and the feeling that
she has to prove something to herself
that she has had those two feelings for
as long as she can remember up until
last year
Like I mean fear of
getting in trouble
When she said that I
like felt it cuz I was like there’s some
part of me that always thinks I’m doing
things wrong
No matter no
matter if like people look at it and say
great job
I’m like they don’t know I’m
actually failing deep down
They just
don’t know it’s deeply wrong
And so like Yeah
I was like oh [ ] And I think this is one of the multiple moments in the ep in the in the interview where she starts to cry She’s like, it’s interesting cuz I also have the fear of getting in trouble as far as like that to me is one of the worst feelings in the world, being in trouble Like, yeah, I’ve just always been a little goody goody my whole life True to some extent Yeah, I think we have that in common But I don’t walk around thinking everything I’m doing I’m going to get in trouble for is wrong Like that’s not part of my life like it is for you and Drew So, you guys can be best friends now and I guess I’ll just quietly exit We need the like yin and y so jealous of it They they absolutely need a balance That’s why you and I are like partyy Like I I don’t think if I had another of me that this would work Absolutely not You might be able to do with another of you, but like you already do all that See, like anyways, um there’s some more there’s a lot of great stuff in this So listen to it But um there’s this really kind of cool way he describes her life as like eras Uh I was excited because I feel like we do that so much like Yeah You know that Drew is this Drew and the phases and the Renaissances And it’s totally true And um and then what’s our favorite thing when people describe her light in some way So he describes her as a flashlight that won’t go out, which Perfect, perfect And then um I like how he kept like multiple times he was like, “You’re so sane ” And like I’m just like surprised how like real and open you are like he says sane multiple times and I think it’s because of the they have some talk about the institution which she keeps like describing it that way Oh maybe that is why or maybe he’s just talked to a lot of people who aren’t aren’t all there It seems like he really means like real like she’s present she’s Yeah, it was it’s great So listen to it like what no matter what you feel about this guy I don’t know really much about him at all I know he was at the Playboy Mansion a lot and I know he does real talk with Bill Maher Like I we’re not like, you know, he’s he’s he’s a famous for what he does, but he also like kind of says like that’s a different that’s me at work and this is me here and I’m a different person here It’s interesting And it is on YouTube if you guys want to watch the video version, which I do Like usually I’m a strictly audio podcast person, but of course when it’s Drew I’m going to watch the video And it’s great It’s really cool to see Looks beautiful She’s like has her feet up almost the whole time like she does when she’s comfy Of course, this flower film shirt that we talked about is so cute All right So, what else is new Oh, so I noticed the finally the new US Weekly contribution might be coming We’ve been waiting and waiting and waiting It’s supposed to be quarterly Um, it is not in the current issue, which is the August 25th, but they just published a new very small two question Dear Drew on their website So, I’m hopeful I’ve been checking it through the library app, which is so convenient and great So, I’ll keep checking I will of course report back Um, also our Instagram, Drew, we often will update with that kind of thing So, there’s been a lot of people reaching out to us because apparently if you search like Drew Magazine 2025 now us, it’s us and there’s like they never put out official word So, I’ve been having to like tell people like that’s gone and US Weekly is the mini form of it, but there’s like nothing new yet It’s sad to say, you know Gosh, weird I’m like, we can’t speak officially on behalf of them, but here’s what we know Literally from the inside, like, yeah, like we Yeah, that we So, of course, I got like multiple issues of us because when the magazine ended, I got nothing I think I got one clipping I got one clipping of Ross talking about his book with his husband and I was like that’s adorable because of course it’s got like a little illustration of Drew So I’m like I got one clipping Um all right so one of the other coolest things that basically kind of led to this episode, right A new tattoo Drew finally got her favorite string of numbers tattooed onto her I love it Hey Drewies, we are here to tell you about our website hosts, Positive Medium, and they sponsor the podcast We’ve been clients of theirs for over 10 years and we use them for all our website needs on the drusium Their services include customized web design, professional coding, search engine optimization and marketing, plus hosting, which has been huge for us for many years Plus, their incredible customer service has been one of our favorite features They’ve literally saved our site quite a few times, and they always help with minor troubleshooting in a matter of minutes So whether that’s coding issues or back-end questions, etc , we reach out, we get help immediately, which is just invaluable To our listeners, Positive Medium is offering 25% off any managed WordPress hosting plan using our promo code Drew That’s D R E W visit our friends over at positivemedium Thank you Okay, so she’s literally gotten four now since the time that we were So we recorded an episode about Drew’s tattoos It was one of our early ones We’re here 100 episodes later Which I freaking love And we’re like, we got to fill in the blanks on all her other tattoos Like I keep updating the description on the old episode to be like, “Note, Drew has since gotten more tattoos ” And I’m like, “He’s gotten two more She’s gotten three more She’s got four more ” Like, “Okay, at this point, we just need to do a new tattoo episode to be the full like holistically, you know, the source of the information, right It’s like we’re putting out the second edition of uh of the Drew tattoos The tattoo tattoo tut two two for her new tattoo You know what It’s all about tattoo So, we’ve got a little leadin audio that you pulled So, let’s let’s put this in here Drew talking about tattoos I’ve been getting tattoos at different times of my life ever since I was 13 years old I think I’ll be getting tattoos for the rest of my life Love that So, as of now, it’s August 2025 Ru has a total of 14 tattoos I’m just saying the year and the month cuz I feel like if you’re just like listening through the episodes, you might not know how old it is I don’t know Yeah, that’s true No, I think it’s smart to say that So, 14 tattoos We just have to note Drew’s last eight tattoos, which all all of which came after the butterfly, have been on her arms Which I find very interesting Is she just like no longer wants to show any other part of herself Like I mean, you know, like I for me, I think it’s because I want to look at them They’re for me Like when I think about that, I’m like I didn’t do this like for other people to like compliment me I did it cuz I want to see something pretty when I look down And so I don’t know if if Drew feels that way, but like I like the arm thing And I’m It’s kind of surprising to me because you can’t cover that up Like you’re an you’re an actress, you’re a public figure So like when she kept doing it, it’s like well I guess either you know what she actually said when she got the butterfly and she’s talking on Leno Um she says, “I like that all of my tattoos are in places that can be covered up ” And then it’s like after that she’s like, “Just kidding I want them all all over Next is the face No, I’m just kidding What a neck She’ll get like um the girl’s kisses like on her paw prints going up her uh her neck We’re just making predictions, guys They’re they’re they’re jokes They’re jokes So, just a brief background on or kind of explanation of how we’re doing to do this episode So, we covered the first 10 tattoos on the previous episode that Ashley mentioned, episode 12 Um, which we released in on October 30th of 2022 So, we’re like almost 3 years later Um, and we’ll play back and interject where we have new information So, like here and there we’ll be interjecting Um, and uh, yeah, enjoy this little flashback and at the end of this we’ll get into the last four tattoos that she’s gotten since we recorded that episode So, all new info Let’s do it [Music] I think that we might be ready for our weekly topic What do you think Yeah, I think we’re this time Let’s get there I need to take a breath Um All right Taking a deep breath Ready for this big topic So, um what did we decide on for a weekly topic And how happy are you to talk about this Oh, this is a great one So, we are going to talk about Drew’s tattoos today, which is really fun because it’s kind of a thing that we’ve always pointed out like when you can see them or like what how exciting it is when this one shows up Uh, you know, people who have been fans of Drew forever She’s had them for so long There’s a lot to talk about here So, we thought it’d be an easy one and then it ended up getting a lot more information than I expected once I was going through research So, awesome Great job on the research I’m looking forward to going through this cuz it is a lot of fun This is something about Drew that I feel like I’m just thinking about like Drew as a person with tattoos Like it’s almost a thing that you could find surprising about her as these days Like maybe kind of as at as at times she may have been seen as like a girl next door, you know, but she’s had this life that’s gone in waves and you know, levels of different personalities and different modes and I don’t know I feel like all of her tattoos say a lot about the time that she got them and I think that’s why this topic is so fun for us All of them feel like very true to her in a different way Definitely And like the range of them kind of fits with like the range of her sides of her personality Her multiaceted personalities So let’s get into it So just a couple real quick quotes about Drew and tattoos that we’ve gathered from over the years Um, one thing she said is that I really like tattoos and it’s an expression of how you feel and they’re there forever, which is kind of what you were just saying Um, another quote is, uh, for someone who’s afraid to be trapped and confined, sometimes I bust out and do things that are so permanent And she was referencing not just tattoos, but also marriage and that Yeah, absolutely Um, yeah, that I’m like I could see that coming from this more mature side of her She’s also many times, I’m sure you remember how many times she’s talked about how getting a tattoo is a pleasurable pain In Details 1997, she said that pain is like nothing else in the world And it’s so sexual, too You know, I mean, after it’s done, you just want to go and drive a car off a cliff or something I love that because I know how is something being so sexual make you want to drive off a cliff I don’t know But that feels like a Druism And I didn’t type this up, but she also said afterward like, “Okay, kids, don’t try this at home ” That’s great But also, I agree Um, having recently within the last couple of months gotten a new tattoo, like there’s just something about if you can tolerate it, it has a pleasurable thing about it I haven’t done it in so long, I don’t even remember So, I’ll take your word for it So, she has 10 tattoos in total, which I wouldn’t have been able to tell you off the cuff So, it’s kind of cool that it’s an even beautiful number like 10 Easy to remember now I love that she made it so it’s no longer a beautiful even number Thanks, Drew But it’s still even It’s still even So, just like back to like that was October 30th, 2022 that we released that We’re in August of 2025 It’s now 14 Are we ready to move on Let’s hear some more And she’s said just like we were just saying that there are reflections of times in her life, which is great So, let’s get into the details of the tattoos And we’re going to go in chronological order as best as we know when she got them So, we’re starting with the flowers on her hip It seemed that she was un kind of unclear as to when she got it, right Based on some of the stuff you looked at at first I mean, we all know that Drew isn’t the best at accurately saying how old she was when something happened, but I’m going to take her word for it on this first one Okay, cool So, she said her first, which is a bouquet of flowers on the front of her left hip, she had gotten around the age of 13 Um, which kind of makes sense When was she officially emancipated Yeah, it was right before she turned 15 So, but I also could see her walking into a tattoo shoe shop in LA and them just like, “Sure ” They’re like, “Oh, Drew Barrymore, cool And it was originally just of a rose when she got it at first I did not remember that until I was doing the research, but I found a couple places where she said like, “Oh, I have a tiny red rose ” Or said like it was originally just a rose So, I had forgotten that completely I have forgotten that But this next part, I do remember this So, she added daisies to it later and they don’t even totally look like daisies I have to say it’s kind of a weird tattoo And we’ll get into her feelings about it But she said that it was done by a big Australian meanie and she went in and she was like, “I want daisies ” And he said, “I don’t do daisies ” She said, “Okay ” So, she said, you know, it’s still there and it’s absolutely her least favorite of her tattoos, which is, you know, her first one I guess that’s okay She said she loves all her other ones, but she said, “The thing is, I wouldn’t have it removed because I just don’t believe in that You were there at one point in your life Just keep it, damn it ” When is that quote from when she says, “Just keep it, damn it ” Was that I believe that whole thing is also from details 1997 That was a good one for tattoo information So, in 1986, talking about this tattoo, she said it was shocking to her that she just really wanted one And when the guy said he wouldn’t do what she wanted, she was just like, “Okay, draw anything ” And then she said it’s not really that cute, but I like it It reminds me of how I would have taken anything, not necessarily the thing I wanted Now I have a great deal of patience It’s a great way of like silver lining looking at it [Music] I wasn’t going to say anything about this one, but it’s very interesting to think that this happened at 13 Where in the Little Girl Lost timeline did this happen Like pre AASAP Is this during one of the times she was released and it was like a reaction to that So, we’re talking about like the flowers like when would she have gotten like the rose or whatever it was at first She’s 13 like crazy to imagine maybe but like maybe not so crazy maybe exactly what I said someone was like oh Drew Barrymore cool like just like that and she’s in a big rebellious phase of her life 100% [Music] I feel like a lot of people who have tattoos like you said end up getting something not so great Yeah I have one that I wouldn’t mind not having Yeah I get that All right So, we know that her next one would be, I would say, one of her most famous ones, which is the cross that she has on her, let me think about this for a second, right ankle The first time that I could find visual proof of it was some candids, like an event that she attended in October 1990 So, we can assume around that time it it fits So, she has the cross It is wrapped in ivy and roses Like I said, it’s near her right ankle And she said a couple times that she designed it herself, which I also had forgotten that information Yeah, I had forgotten that, too So, she described it as a four angled cross because at the end of each end of the cross, there’s another cross basically like you kind of know what I mean Describing that well, but and then she said at that time she believed that religion and spirituality were everywhere you looked and everything was possible So, that was sort of like her inspiration She also felt that it was a sign when she first read the script for Poison Ivy that the title character Ivy has the same tattoo Although interestingly, of course, we have to kind of mention this, the tattoo that she had on her ankle was then covered, right And then she had a tattoo instead on her like kind of upper thigh So, I mean, of course, it makes sense to be like, “Oh my god, I also have a cross tattoo ” And this was in a time in her life when she was like, “I really need to get a roll ” that I really need to get an iconic role that’ll take people’s minds off of me as a child Um which was a successful a successful endeavor as far as Poison Ivy goes So, putting the the tattoo in a sexier spot as you might think I bet you’re right I bet that was part of it Plus, she had to like not have it at the beginning and she gets it in the movie So, that’s right That’s right She said that it symbolizes pain, death, life, and love Basically, she said like it’s my whole theme, crucifixes, which it’s not really a crucifix, it’s a cross But yes, if you remember, she was wearing cross necklaces all the time in like 1992 She was in 1991 Here’s a quote that she gave She said, “I’ve had it like a year No one sees it, just my friends Unless I want to be a badass and wear shorts and no socks or something ” It’s funny The one person who’s afraid of commitment has something that’s pretty lifelasting, but I can always cover it up if I want Yeah, I love that I love that Okay, so next um is probably out of these ones my favorite so far Oh, really So far out of the ones we’ve talked about I don’t know There’s something about it So, it’s the moon on her toe And you may be able to remember which toe it is Is it her right or left It’s her right I only know cuz I have a note Oh, you do So, by 1992, um, she and a friend, we don’t know who, got friendship tattoos, drew a crescent moon on her right big toe, said she was walking past the tattoo shop with a friend, and they just said, “Let’s get matching tattoos ” And they did it That’s all we know Um, and then thanks to Drew Bra Daisy for reminding us that, um, there was a talk show appearance where she talked about it, which was Kona in 1993, and they have it uploaded on their YouTube So, that’s really cool Yeah, I messaged them because like I said, it’s really hard to find some of these talk show appearances and I for some reason was visualizing and I it still might be her third 1995 David Letterman appearance where she’s wearing the green top I think she describes her tattoos in that one but you can’t find that online right now which is so frustrating But so I messaged Drewberry more Daisy and I was like, “Can you remember ” And they pointed out to me that Conan had a good description And I was like, “Cool Now we know ” Cuz I had the note of like her getting it with a friend, but I couldn’t find the source And that was the source So that was great I think one of the reasons I really love it is because you and I have talked about getting tattoos together for so long and we haven’t been able to land on anything Never have So maybe we just get like us like a moon and a sun and we call it a day Let’s just get the how do you Drew logo That would look cool Oh, perfect Just really big across our backs Oh, perfect It’s It’s Well, I was going to say it’s free advertising, but tattoos aren’t free, people It pays for itself I just have to interject We still have not This is three years later But we have we have decided what it’s going to be We have a plan I have to get it Um, side note, do we not insert the Conan audio Cuz we need to I guess not We can do it now Okay, it looks like we didn’t put the audio from the coding clip we were talking about So, I’m going to drop it in here, guys [Music] But, uh, is that with you wearing a tattoo I was looking through some of those earlier as part of my job I have one right on my ankle, actually What do you have on your ankle a a cross, a sort of fourth angled cross There’s a cross at each angle And um it has rose vines growing through it And um I put it on there about five years ago How many tattoos do you have Um I have five No, I’m not going to get But what kind are they You have a cross And what else Um yes, I have a cross on my ankle I have a blue moon on my toe And what makes you think of that What makes you think of like I’ve got to have a moon Well, what what made you think of it I don’t know I I I’m just saying what made you think, “Okay, I’ve got to have that because it’s a pretty permanent decision ” Actually, a friend of mine uh we were walking past a tattoo shop one day and went, “Let’s get matching tattoos And that’s how it happened Oh, cool And it’s still there, right So, they’re not those fake kind I get the fake kind a lot I have those, too Those are a lot of fun Um and then I have um cherubs growing growing I hope they’re not growing Um, along the base of my back All right Oh, yeah [Music] Let’s move on to her cherubs, which are two separate tattoos, both on her lower back The first one is on the right side and it’s a group of three cherubs that are holding a cross and the cross has her mother’s name Jade on it which is uh you know very interesting I think she probably got this we can guess around 1992 as well Well, she for sure had it by 1992 That seemed like a time in their relationship where they were the most close and then it like maybe never again were they close after that So, not sure what went on, but we can speculate all day about that I have, and this is like the stupidest Vegas memory that I was like, do I even mention this And I only found like one minute piece of evidence that I didn’t imagine this There was this show in the early 2000s called Crossing Over with John Edward Was like, do you remember this He’s like a medium I was obsessed with it for a while like I watched it all the time and Jade was on one time and like I said I couldn’t find any clips but I found like one like TV guide that mentioned it or something And I swear there’s something came up and obviously like you know whether you believe in his abilities or not it would have been very easy for him to get this information But he does like bring up that tattoo in the like you know he’s basically saying like I don’t even remember who he supposedly was communicating with on the other side but he brings up like I’m seeing a tattoo with your name or something along those lines And I don’t think they showed a picture, but of course I knew exactly what it was And yes, says like, “Oh, Drew has that tattoo or something like that ” But um that’s like the only relevant note I have on that tattoo There’s also a really wonderful photo of it Like super crisp clear photograph of it that was in what magazine Us from June 1992, I believe It’s black and white, but it’s a great photo It’s like stunning and it the tattoo looks so crisp there So yeah, like you thinking it was pretty soon before that makes sense Yeah, I think it was very new All right, why don’t you tell us about her other cherubs Okay, so she does have another cherub in the middle of her lower back holding a banner with the name James for ex-boyfriend Jamie Walters Um, and it was said that he had one of her name as well And then she said that if she had found out that he’d covered up his, she would also want to cover up hers but his name kind of like bled into a black bar after they broke up and you can’t read it at all So she’s quoted as saying, “You can’t even read it It’s so small and the colors have sort of bled into each other It almost scares me It sort of disappeared Isn’t that strange Isn’t that indicative ” And then she said, “His name is gone It just bled ” How insane is that When my tattoo artist did it, you could definitely read it, but he said, “Trust me ” And I asked why and he said, “Just trust me ” A year later, the name was gone and so was Jamie The tattoo artist probably didn’t need psychic powers to know that It’s probably like, “Uh, really You sure you want to get this dude’s name on you ” Okay, so we do have a little update on the Jamie tattoo and the name disappearing or bleeding away So, in late 2023 on the Drew Barrymore Show, they showed this tattoo Can’t say when the image was taken, but they showed an image of it And either they completely edited out his name or the remnants of his name or Drew had it totally filled in because it is not just like it’s not just a little bar It is the entire banner is filled in black now And it looks like it’s a darker black than the other part of the tattoo slightly Maybe that’s maybe that’s just my screen I don’t know Um but I wouldn’t be surprised either way if like the art department did it cuz they’re like uh do you even like was the were they discussing it on the episode like discussing the the like contents of the um No, she was interviewing like a Formula 1 driver and I think he had a tattoo in the same spot She’s like oh we’re twins or he also had a cherub or something like that So, they briefly showed it on the screen I like to think that he had it on his lower back Yeah, it probably wasn’t a [ ] stamp
and we will share the image on our
website if you guys want to see what
we’re talking about
We’ve shared it a
couple times, but we’ll throw it in
there again
[Music]
The next tattoo she got is, I would say,
her most famous
I would say so, too
Most iconic
And of course, that is her
butterfly
So, we know she got this in
late 1994
It’s the butterfly
It’s
right underneath her belly button
So, I already have to jump in and say we
have this one wrong
We thought late 94
And I remember after
this episode came out, our friend Brian
texted and he was like, “Hey, just so
you know, when she’s on the Tonight Show
in April 1994, she already had the
butterfly cuz she talks about it
So,
let’s play that real quick
Now, there some of the rumors that they
have
Now, the tattoos
I don’t see any
tattoos
Do you have tattoos
That’s That’s the cool thing
None of my
tattoos are anywhere where they show if
I didn’t want them to, but I have six
Oh, you have six
Now, what would they
What are they
Do you like animals or
you have scenes or
Well, I have a butterfly
A butterfly
That’s appropriate
Um I have
um a cross, a blue moon
Where is the blue moon
Uh on my toe
On your toe
and um cherabs on the base of my
back
So that uh told us, you know, it was
earlier than we thought
It really isn’t
ever
right in your face visible until
Playboy, which comes out on stands in
January 94
Obviously, the photo shoot
was done several months prior to that
Um also the photo shoot for Sky Magazine
by Michael Mueller from their July 94
issue
You can vaguely see it in one
image, just barely
It’s so funny
It
was like definitely hidden for a while
and then all of a sudden the following
year she’s like, “Want to look at my
belly all the time
And I’m wondering is it like
lowrise jeans
Like is it like a
combination of like fashion
I’m also like how does she consider her
ankle to be a place that’s easy to
cover
Like I don’t agree that that’s
necessarily easy to cover
Um
she was wearing a lot of jeans in that
time I And I’m I’m guessing when we did
the episode, we were thinking of like
when would Playboy have been shot and we
were just going from there, right
All right
So, we’ve got a little more
accuracy there
So, let’s jump back in
[Music]
So, as most people know, she has always
loved the metaphor of butterflies that
you can change and metamorphice and grow
and become a more profoundly beautiful
and capable human being
on Ruby Wax in
1998
Ruby said, “Oh god, that’s gonna stretch
out if you ever get pregnant
” And Drew
said, “I think about that all the time
“
Oh my god, I forgot about that
And she also told Ruby that uh
she felt like she was too old for any
more tattoos
She was only 23, which is
hilarious
That’s so great
But a really long stretch did go by
before she got anymore
A lot of time went by
you know,
she said she was maybe too old to get
more tattoos
Well, 15 years later, um
she got a small bird um on the inside of
her right arm in May of 2009
Um and I
just thought it was cute when I I
remember feeling this when I saw it
There was a time when she was on Rosie
and I think we mentioned this before
where they were building birdhouses and
she said, “I love perching birdies
“
It is funny
I always think of that when
I see that tattoo as well
It’s not on YouTube anymore
It wasn’t
there then
It’s not there now, but
there was a time where it was there
And
I have the clip
I love purchase birdies
Thank God
I love that
[Music]
We know almost absolutely nothing about
that one
Like, it just showed up
She
never really talked about it
It was
just like this cute little I’m guessing
that was a spontaneous one
And for some reason I I always
connect it with Justin Long
You know why
I think
there was this magazine feature
I want
to say it’s for Blackbook where they
each like took photos and then like
posted like a text conversation between
the two of them and one of the photos
like the best photo of the bird tattoo
is from that
Oh, awesome
Maybe that’s why
Yeah, that’s pro that’s probably why
And maybe because they were probably
together when she got it, right
Would
that have made sense for this time
So, it probably just I can kind of
imagine that he might have been there
Oh, I bet you’re right
That’s
[Music]
um I love this
Okay, so we do have a little more info
It’s so cool that we were like
speculation city
You’re so smart
All right, update for this one
The bird
tattoo drew on Hollywood Squares
She
mentioned a stick and poke tattoo that
she once got in a hotel bathroom with
Justin Long and Billy Joe Armstrong of
Green Day
Of course, because Yeah, of
course
And we like right away I was
like, “Oh, this got to be the bird
“
It has to be
because I could imagine what stick and
poke like tattoos are usually relatively
simple
And anyway, clearly was random
They wouldn’t have chosen the hotel
bathroom if they had planned this ahead
of time
Also, I would is a stick and poke
like maybe less smooth lines because I
always feel like this has like sort of
jaggedy lines to it
It’s by hand
So, it’s I mean sometimes
people can do it really precisely but
it’s by hand
There’s not a machine
involved
So, definitely it looks like
you know
simple enough to do in that in that type
of tattooing
in a hotel bathroom
In a hotel bathroom
Um, and then
weirdly when we covered Rebel Homemaker,
Drew’s cookbook,
we discovered this little image, this
little cartoon birdie shows up twice in
the book
With no explanation
So, it still is to
me the most mysterious of her tattoos
It’s really sweet
What is the story
Where did this image
come from
Why would she put it in this
book twice
Unless she was sending
like a secret message to Justin
I’m going to get one of those birds
Like I’m just going to steal one
Catching birdies
If we can’t get our other idea, I’m just
we’re just going to get the birds
[Music]
Next one
The Breathe tattoo
So when
she attended the London premiere of
Going the Distance in August 2010, she
had breathe on her left forearm, but it
was just written there like in temporary
ink
It wasn’t the actual tattoo
And I
think there’s some people who don’t
realize that
And I had forgotten that that was
like a temporary version of it
It’s slightly different
So you
can kind of tell that she was like
workshopping it
Flower film staffer
named Brent Kyle who was really into
like doing a lot of their design stuff
he actually did the logo for
Flower Films that is currently been in
use
Um, and it’s very similar in style
and like font and look to this
So, she
worked with him on designing the
permanent version of this tattoo
By late February of 2011 is when the new
tattoo could be seen on her arm and it
was done by Todd Serenson
Between
August 2010 and February 2011, a handful
of years later, she had decided to get a
tattoo of her daughter’s names
And it
seemed like it was somewhat sporadic,
but obviously this is something that
would have meant a lot to her and is not
like a rashed decision
So, um, in March
2016, she got her daughter’s names all
and Frankie in her own handwriting on
the inside of her her right wrist
Um,
and she said she had been wanting to do
it
And then one day she said we were on
our way to an appointment and I was
like, “Can we just quickly stop at this
tattoo shop
” She walked in and said,
“Who’s available to do a tattoo quickly,
like right now, and this guy came up and
was like, yeah, I can
” So I was like,
“I’m going to write this down on a piece
of paper and then can you just transfer
it onto my arm
” And so she has this
really like really simple totally
obviously her own handwriting because we
know her handwriting well and it just
olive and Frankie
on the inside of her wrist
And I’ve
always loved wrist tattoos
So
me too
I’ve always found this one really
endearing and sweet for many many
reasons
Yeah, it’s a good one
Um and she had
posted some pictures of her actually
getting it which is cool cuz like we’ve
never had that kind of access before
That’s right
And then her last one
Damn, talk about
access
So, her most current one is on her arm
and it says home is where we are
So,
it’s kind of interesting because this is
also on her right arm
So, it’s right in
between her daughter’s names and her
bird
So, I don’t know like if that’s
just where she wants all her tattoos
now, on her right arm
Um, so in May 2021, she felt like she
still wanted to scratch that tattoo
itch
So, I guess she didn’t feel uh too
old anymore
Um, it wasn’t an impulse one at
all
She had thought about it for many
years
So, there was like a woman, just
a random lady who was getting a tattoo
that was meaningful and Drew said,
“Okay, I’m going to get one with you,
too, on the show
” The tattoo artist was
Ryan Ashley, who had won, I think it’s
they said she was the first female to
win the show Inc
And yeah, so the quote was basically
inspired by her divorce and by having to
move to New York after the divorce
She said, “Wherever life takes you, if
you’re lucky enough to be alongside
people you love, then to me that became
the definition of home,” she said,
adding that it’s the most important life
lesson, she learned
My eyes are
stinging because I’m crying so much
I
want people to feel that no matter where
they go in the world, if they’re lucky
enough to have someone to love, that is
so fulfilling
When I was in rental
apartments or not knowing where life was
going or so upset that the plans I tried
to solidify for my kids had changed, it
really led to the discovery of what home
really means to me
And that is if we
are together wherever we are, home is
where we are
So
that’s really sweet
I think that is probably her most
meaningful tattoo
I think she would say
that at least these days
I mean,
yeah,
it really has a lot of meaning behind it
and she’s mentioned many, many, many,
many times that this was the hardest
thing she ever went through in her life,
that time period
So, to have that come
out of it is really beautiful
[Music]
And now we’re back in the present
Yes, we are
We are here in August 2025
I’m just going to keep saying the date
I’m I’m an archavist, guys
How many
things I come across that aren’t dated
and I’m so upset about it
Yeah, I get it
Okay, let’s get into tattoo number 11,
which is very meaningful to Drew
It’s
interesting how the last one I was like,
this might be her most meaningful, and
then we’re like they just keep getting
like
meaningful on top of meaningful
Okay, so we are talking about the three
sardines
So, January 30th, 2023
I love
that now we have like
dates like lockdown
Um, this was done at Drew’s New York
apartment by Johnboy Tattoo
It is located on her left forearm above
the word breathe
So, she decided to
take a break from the right forearm for
just a little bit
Um, and her friend
Savannah Guthrie also got one at the
same time
It was like this thing that
they went off and did together that was
like so exciting to them
They talked
about it quite a lot
You could
definitely look that up
Really really sweet the like whole the
whole sentiment around it
Um and this was so cool to like
notice this in the magazine
I remember
you pointing this out
So in Drew Mag
there is like a photograph of some
ceramics that are shaped like sardines
that Drew photographed in Italy and it
looks just like her tattoo
And so like
we are
what 99% sure that this was the design
inspiration for the this tattoo which is
so cool
And I remember like when she first
got it before we knew what it
represented which we’ll get into
We
were like huh this is so random
Like
what are these weird little fish
I remember saying I think it’s kind of
cute
And then we found out and then we
every we all loved it
Like I feel like
I remember you Jolina and I like having
an exchange like huh
What do you think
about the fish
Um, but they do represent Drew and her
two daughters, Olive and Frankie, all
being in bed together
And that’s like
what they call themselves, the Three
Little Sardines
Or even more specifically
Welcome to Shardine
It is the hottest club in town
It is so
exclusive
It only has three members
[Laughter]
She sardine has definitely become like
part of our vernacular
Yeah, exactly
She sardine
and we have uh now gifted her something
in the sardine theme
Um we were lucky
enough to give her a tea towel um that
has sardines on it, like a really cute
pattern
I found the actual maker of the
towel
Her brand is called Hazel Made
and uh really cute stuff
And she was
really excited to find out as well that
we gifted this to Drew
But you gave it
to her
Like we had to overnight it
because you were going to the Drewberry
War show
And I like picked it up at the
front desk because the package arrived
for me at the hotel
It was it was very
cool
Um and Drew like I I’m pretty sure
she actually said to me like or maybe
she told me she was going to like frame
it in her kitchen or did she That’s
right
Did she say that
That is what you told me
I keep looking for it
Haven’t seen it
yet
Me neither
Let’s
jump into number 12, which Drew got on
my birthday, November 7th of 2023
Happy
birthday
Happy birthday to me, Drew
tattoo
This is also one I would get
So, Drew um got the words I am human
tattooed on her arm right under the home
is where we are
So, she’s filling up
that arm
Um
back on the right side
Back on the right side
and she
obtained this on air during a season 4
episode of the Jubberry Moore Show
Um,
done by John Mesa
And it’s just
simple block lettering, quite thin
It’s
It’s cool
It’s really clean
The Drew Marsh Show had shared this
really great behindthe-scenes video
documenting this entire process
So, we
will link to that so you guys can watch
it again
Um, and this is where she
reveals that she still likes all but two
of her tattoos
And like as we
discussed, we know she’s never really
liked the flowers
But what do we think the other one is
I feel like it’s probably like one of
the cherub ones
I’m guessing maybe like
the Jamie
Yeah,
that’s what I
That would make the most sense for
sentimental reasons
And it like maybe it’s the blur
blurred the most
I don’t know
I don’t
know
Again, we can speculate
Maybe
she’s not fond of her cross anymore
That’s a great I would love to ask her
about all of this
One day,
one day
One day we will
We’ve We’ve
just been doing this three years, but we
keep waiting
She also said that it was the least
painful one she’s ever gotten, which is
interesting
Um maybe this guy just had
a really nice touch
and it was like so fine
Like the
lettering is just like I almost am like,
“Wow, it probably it was probably so
quick
” I think it was she got the whole
thing in like a couple minutes, right
And then our last note on this is that
Joel Madden was a guest on the episode
Um, and he complimented her tattoo and
kind of approved of it
And for Drew
that set, she said, “It set me on my way
with little clouds and wings
“
I love that
Adorable
Let’s get into number 13 of 14
The word
time
Oh, this was kind of interesting
So, back in October 2023, we noticed,
you noticed first that she was writing
the word time on her arm
You could see
it on the Drew Barrymore show
You could
see it when she went to Austin for the
Formula 1 thing
And she had said that she had recently
gone through something that was the most
difficult thing since her divorce
And
she realized that time is what helps
And we speculated back then and I’m sure
we were right that she was talking about
the whole drama that happened with the
writer’s guild strike
Yeah, we don’t have to get into that
We’ve got an episode that covers it
Like if you guys want to listen to that
Um but yeah, she had this realization
that time is the thing that helps
So much like the breathe tattoo, she was
kind of like workshopping this, you
know, by writing on her arm first before
she committed to the tattoo, which I
love
So this year um as of recording so
March 2025 um she got this tattoo done
and again it was done live on air um by
Johnboy with Savannah Guthrie joining
in
Is John Boy the same as the first
guy
He’s the guy that did the sardines
So our sardine friend has
returned
He’s swimming on back in
Um, and this one went on her left outer
forearm, which I think is such an
interesting placement
Um, and then we get another very similar
placement, which I’ll talk about in a
sec
Yeah, I don’t know
I just like it
Um, and we got some really beautiful
photographs of this and they were
showing it super up close if we’re
getting it done
Um, and it’s also it I
think both of us both you and I felt
like it was had like a strange like
because it’s all lowercase like it was
like was it her handwriting
Yeah, we didn’t think so until they
posted the video and we were both like
well we were wrong
We thought we knew
her handwriting apparently
I mean it’s
a weird T because it looks like an
upside down cross and then it’s a weird
M because it doesn’t have like the
little is that called a serif
I don’t
know
Yeah, the little like up part at the
beginning of the end
Um, but we got to
see Yeah
that they were like choosing
Drew wrote a bunch of T’s and they were
choosing the tea
Like it was really
cool
Um, so Drew says about basically
about the tattoo
Drew said, “I realize now how important
time is, how meaningful, how not to take
it for granted
Time is our most
precious commodity
” So, let’s hear her
chatting about the meaning of this
tattoo to her
The reason I got this
tattoo that says time was because I was
explaining to my daughter Frankie a
couple years ago that I really think the
great healer can be time
Another reason
is I believe in timing
Timing is
everything
And also I’ve come to
believe that time is the most precious
commodity I have
I’m getting to a time
in my life and an age and a place where
things look different
I don’t have all
the time in the world
And I want a way
to carry this with me and have a
beautiful reminder of how much I now
respect and appreciate time and that it
does heal and it is the best thing in
the world
I was just going to say I almost
want to like do like hash marks every
time she says time in like three
different contexts she uses time
Also, I’m like when she’s talking about
how like precious it is, I’m like,
“Okay, then this is why she no longer
has like 25 different projects going
This is why we’re saying goodbye to some
of her businesses
It all makes sense
Time goes quickly
Um, all right
Tattoo number 14 are this um this very
meaningful string of numbers that we
mentioned earlier, 222
And she received this within 20 days, 20
or 21 days of us recording this episode
She received it
She opened her mailbox
and there it was
She received it
I’m I like it
Um, and it was done at a a tattoo studio
called Bang Bang Tattoo in New York by
Sarah Corey
And it is on her right
outer forearm
So, she’s got these like
if she was like a boxer, you know, and
put her arms up and like, you know, was
getting ready
She’d have time and these numbers and
people would be like, “What what the
heck does that mean
It’s time to knock you out
Too too too
much
” I don’t know
So, we had to come here to do tattoo two
for this 22
Are you guys following
So, if anyone out there doesn’t know,
Drew’s birthday is 222, February 22nd,
and my birthday is 111
So, I always
feel that connection with her
I love
111 and 11
Anyway, 22 has always been
her lucky number
She’s often used it in
her films and it’s even on beautiful
appliances and promo photos
The time is
set to 2:22, which I love
And at some
point, fairly recently, I’m going to
guess last year or so
Probably on the
Drew Barrymore show, she did say like,
I’m thinking of getting a 222 tattoo
Um, so we knew that this was probably
coming and it so it wasn’t a surprise
It was very fun when the pictures
appeared that uh the tattoo artist
shared on her Instagram
I love the
pictures of Drew
They’re so darling
So happy
So, originally in our first like go
around of coverage of this episode 12,
we did get into piercings as well
because we just thought like it’d be fun
to include that and like rumors of
piercings that have been out there about
her her actual like ear piercings, her
tongue piercings she had for a while
So, if you guys are interested in
hearing about that as well, go back and
listen to episode 12
All right
Thank you guys for joining us
for our tattoo
redo
[Laughter]
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Um, a question
to take us out
What’s your favorite of
Drew’s tattoos
I guess in like first instinct I just
have to go with the butterfly
Like it
is just so
so iconic
It’s just so part of mid ‘9s Drew and I
just love it and it, you know, inspired
my butterfly that I got in the spot
where her Jamie tattoo is, which is a
little confusing, but yeah, I didn’t
want one on my belly
Yeah, that makes sense
Um, for
me, I think I think I actually said in
the previous episode that I really loved
the moon tattoo, and I still do
Like,
weirdly, it’s a weirdly like it’s so
blurry, you know, like it’s not it
doesn’t look good anymore, but I
realized like I’m going to be getting a
tattoo soon, and I might have a moon
incorporated somewhere
Okay, I really
did like deep down kind of love that
Um, is it my favorite
It’s not my favorite in style
I asked I
like how I ask these questions and I
don’t really have an answer
You need like a bunch of different
categories
Which do you love in
meeting
Which do you love
aesthetically
Which
which do you love for nostalgia
But you know what
In like the
in the grand scheme of things, it
probably is the butterfly
All right
Good choice
You know,
we’re so in sync
Thank you for uh coming with us through
this metamorphosis and uh we’ll see you
all next Tuesday
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I’m an
and I’m Ashley and we are the giggle
girls
And I was like I’m in such a good
mood right now and also we like I know
and it’s it’s good but we also have to
start this episode on kind of a little
bit of a dark note but maybe it’s good
that we’re bringing a lot of heart to
it
So, before we get into this little
girl lost wrap-up, which is like a big
deal, we wanted to take a moment to
dedicate this episode to someone
special
Um, somebody in the Drewie
community who a lot of you know, um, Bob
James Monday
um, passed away earlier this year and we
haven’t had a moment to mention it and
it just felt like this is a time maybe a
lot of people will be coming here to
listen to this episode and
we know him as James
James, we loved
him
Um, I mean, we can kind of go into
the background for those of you who
don’t know who he is
So, James was the husband of Missy
and James and Missy, from what I recall,
they actually met because she hired him
to help her start a Drew fan site
That’s what I remember,
which is so like
just there’s Drew being someone else’s
origin story, right
And um we’re talking this is like mid
’90s and Missy ran these incredible fan
sites and the grapevine which was the
message board where Ann and I met and so
many of our other Drewie friends
So it
was a very sweet wonderful community
Um
I like to think that sort of like the
spirit of their websites are like
totally in the DNA of everything Ann and
I do
the Drew and How You Drew
It is
like we are trying to keep that, you
know, that spirit alive of what we used
to feel back in the late 90s and early
2000s
Absolutely
I couldn’t agree more
Like
I think it’s we we’ve mentioned like
Missy a bunch here and there, but I
think that like unless you were like
there with us, you might not even
realize how formative that all was
And
it has everything to do with Missy and
James
And we wouldn’t I mean we
wouldn’t even know each other let alone
anything else but like I don’t think we
would be doing this without like what
they had built you know
like because it built like such a
foundational like grooiness in us that
it’s like that is like
totally
who I am it’s foundational like I don’t
know everything about it like built our
love for each other and Drew and anyway
totally
it was it’s important for us to mention
here if you knew James some people know
him as Bob a lot of people in his
regular life knew him as Bob, but I got
a chance to meet James
I’m so glad that happened
I
think it was in 2014
I was trying to
remember the year
But um Missy and
James went to Disneyland and I got a
chance to meet them both and spend a few
hours with them with Jolina and I’m so
grateful that that happened
And Missy,
if you’re out there, we’re just sending
like so much love your way
To their whole family
like
it’s been really heartbreaking and we
just we’ve we’ve been trying to find the
right episode to dedicate to him
So
because Little Girl Lost is just such a
like OG Drooy thing I guess I feel and
because of what we accomplished with
this episode which like would never have
happened without what they built
Oh my god
I just Yeah, we want to dedicate this
episode to the memory of him
So
we miss you
We miss you
We miss that community and
I’m so glad a lot of us are still here,
including us
Okay, should we take a take a turn
Yeah, let’s take a big turn
Get into
some Drew stuff
It all relates, guys
Yeah, it’s all
that’s all we’re here to talk about
ever,
right
So, um, let’s talk about this new
old discovery
Uh, so wild
We love a new old discovery,
right
So, in 1981, Drew apparently did
a commercial for a Canadian restaurant
called Smitties and they what
Like just
posted it on their Instagram
Just this past week
Um, it is so cute
Like, we didn’t even know this existed
We know that Drew did a lot of
commercials as a child and we probably
know of like seven
There’s probably so
many more still undiscovered, right
Um,
yeah, she’s in this really cute like tap
dancing outfit and she’s got like a
puppet
It’s a little confusing
I don’t
really understand the premise, but at
the very end, it like cuts away to her
sitting in the restaurant with her mom,
Jade
I’m like, “Oh, of course she had
to get her stuff
“
Of course
I’m actually going to play it
cuz it’s short enough and the audio is
really cute
So, let’s listen to it
[Music]
That’s good
That’s good
That’s better
Has quick
service
Come to make
[Music]
[Laughter]
It’s so it’s really cute
She It’s
really kind of hard to see hear what
she’s saying cuz she’s almost like
so young
She’s like
strong
It’s given a little bit of that
It’s like It’s like earlier than that
So it’s like right
I mean it’s how much
earlier than that
probably probably
just a little bit, maybe a couple
months
I don’t know
Yeah, it’s close
It’s so cute
So, you guys have to go
check it out cuz it’s adorable
Like,
yeah, we will link to it on the episode
page on how todrew
So, new old stuff is always going to get
us excited
This is my favorite thing in the world
New old stuff
It’s the best
It’s the best
Talking
about things we love
Oh, great segue
Tell us what Drew proclaimed her love
for recently
I love
Okay, none of these should be a
surprise
Drew loves a suit
Yeah, of course
She loves Steven Colbear’s wife as we
She loves to proclaim that, too
Yeah, it’s easy here
And did you know this
She loves her
children
Can you believe it
I can’t believe it
Also, like she must
have just not said it in those exact
words for it to be new, right
I double checked the list
It wasn’t on
there
I mean, if you guys don’t realize, these
are all new things
If you haven’t
looked at the site, there’s this really
adorable page that Ashley’s curated of
all the links that Drew’s proclaimed her
love for since we started this podcast
It’s pretty fun
So, I always go double
check it
I’m like always on that page
And most of the time I’m like
already got it
Like I think we had mac
and cheese way late in the game and we
were super surprised
So, let’s get back into it
So,
what did you pull for the Druism of the
week
you know those cool little isms
that we do
Okay, this is Drew talking as she has
many many many many times about how she
is really learning how to stop speaking
to herself in an unkind way
And then I just this is all new to me
So I’m like a wobbly calf that just got
born
[Laughter]
I love how her wobbly calf sounds like
her turkey sound
That’s perfect
So cute,
guys
This is one of our favorite
things
All right, so we have some other
really fun stuff
And guys, it has to do
with us
So that’s kind of fun
Let’s go to our
mailbox
You’ve got mail
Okay, the first one comes from
Instagram
Some comments from DGirl424
and they say, “How did I not know about
you until tonight
Hello from your new
follower and podcast subscriber
You
will literally make my days so happy
I
can’t even begin to tell you how much
I’ve needed this in my life
Thank you, D girl
I hope you’re
listening so you can hear us shouting
you out and like
and thanks for finding us
Yeah, absolutely
Um, all right
This
other one is like so sweet
It’s one of
those like that when we get them this is
like this is why we do this, right
I was just thinking about that
So, this is um a DM on Instagram
from the podcast All the Film Things
Also, that it’s another podcast is
always so cool
All right
So, hi Ann and Ashley
My
name is Elizabeth and I just wanted to
say I love your podcast
I listened to
your Melan Monroe episode and thoroughly
enjoyed it from the research you put
into it to your dynamic as longtime
friends and fans of Drew
Your passion
for her is clear, but I especially loved
how you both exuded the same upbeat,
bubbly demeanor that Drew naturally has
Like Drew, you brighten people’s days
through your podcast
So, I look forward
to listening to your podcast more and
more
If you can see our faces right now,
we’re just like
I know we’re both like
try not to cry
That’s so sweet
So sweet
So sweet
It’s why we do it
Throw that in here, please
Yeah, sure
So sweet
[Laughter]
Elizabeth, thank you
Also, Elizabeth
and I have been DMing a little bit more
and we’re talking about maybe guesting
on her podcast
So, yeah
Oh, that’s very cool
Um, but yes,
thank you so much, Elizabeth
We do
it for you
She’s definitely like one of us
You
know what I mean
Like tell by her
One of us
All right
Um, we’re going to go to the
kind comments corner
We were kind of
just there, but we’re going to go to
Drew’s
So, here we go
So sweet
Any excuse to use that sound clip
It’s adorable
Okay, this is a comment
on an Instagram video of Drew meeting a
therapist in the Drew Barrymore Show
audience who told Drew that she had
always been her role model
Totally get
that
So, the comment is from
froggy bun
Adorable name
It
says, “What I love about Drew is that
she has likely heard sentiments like
this over and over again throughout her
life
This woman is not the first person
to tell her, “You’ve been my role model
But it doesn’t matter because Drew still
absorbs what she’s saying and really
listens
She receives the compliment and
it moves her to tears
Drew has also
been my role model for this very reason
She is so real
She doesn’t allow being
rich and famous to keep her from having
real connections with real people
I mean absolutely 100% the 100 emoji
stamp
Yeah, stamp right on that
Um, I mean, I
guess I’ll just like just comment about
that particular thing is like Drew does
not realize that she’s Drew Barrymore
Like, she knows it, but like her
security, I think we’ve mentioned this
before, like told me like,
yeah, I have to constantly like try to
tell her stop like like touching people,
like stop like letting people hug you
and like and anyway, she she’s not going
to stop doing that because that’s her
She’s
No, that’s why we love her
and she is that
That is that is her
Anyway, great
comment, Froggy Bun
Also, great name
Let’s go back in time a little
bit and see who pulled for this week in
Drew history
September 9th, 2002
Very recent
to us, right
So recent
There was filming that happened on
the beach at Zuma Beach in Malibu
Back to the beach, guys
Back to the beach water
If you know, you know
the beach scene
of Charlie’s Angel’s Full Throttle
So,
we get those hot dog on a stick
costumes
Cameron’s in a bikini to surf
Deme Moore shows up for the first time
Is Drew Annie in that
Yes, that’s the one where she’s Annie on
her name tag
I’m pretty sure
Just for you
Actually, I think it was like a
reference to the movie Foxes
Is that
right
That sounds familiar
Okay,
it’s Foxes
Um, this was a very big
deal
FE filming had like just kicked
off
I think we’d only gotten like a
couple other pictures before this one
Um, what’s to say
It was just, this was
such a big deal
It was amazing
I mean, you already mentioned Demi
Moore
The Demi Moore thing was huge cuz
like what
She hadn’t done a movie in a
long time and she was like in a bikini
It was a huge deal
She was 40 in a bikini
So, also just
have to like if you don’t know what the
hot hot hot dig on a stick costume is,
like if you haven’t like if you don’t
like remember that off the top of your
head, it’s like worth looking that up
Yeah, we’ll definitely share some
pictures
What’s one of the coolest things that is
worth talking about in this is what from
the flower press like magazines randomly
and uh wildflower
that’s where these pictures appeared
So incredibly beautiful selfies of
Drew in the mirror
When you look at
them at first, like I think we both
thought like, oh my god, these are from
like n the early 90s because she’s got
curly blonde hair
Yeah, I thought like Bad Girls era
I
thought like 93,
right
Totally tricked me
You can’t really tell in that picture
You can tell in the movie, but
Right
Those pictures are beautiful
They’re black and white
They’re taken
with her like camera that I also love
And she also, one of the cutest things
in the scene is she’s got um the word
crush with a star written on her arm
So, it’s like I think a couple times in
this movie, she’s got stuff written on
her arm
There’s one other I can’t think of what
it says off the top of my head, but when
they do the like dance scene in uh
Natalie’s new place when they’re moving
in, there’s something on her arm in
that
Drew loves riding on her arms
If
you guys don’t know,
there’s also something on her arm in the
um dirt, not the dirt bike
Oh, yeah
That one says Jerk the monster
truck,
right
Yeah, she was definitely really into the
name, the writing on the arm for that
movie
Yeah, she was
Okay, so there’s so much
in this episode before we get to like an
amazing episode
So, let’s let’s uh run
through a couple more like great things
worth mentioning, though
So, what’s new
with Drew
Here we go with the news,
everybody
So, as I correctly
predicted in our last episode,
finally there is a new Love Drew segment
in US Weekly
If you guys don’t know
what that is, basically since Drew
magazine folded at the end of last year,
they are now doing these mini versions
of that in US Weekly
It’s supposed to
be quarterly
So, um, the September 1st
issue
on my library, John Stamos is on the
cover, but you found it in person and
and Taylor Swift and whatever the Kelchi
dude is
They’re on the cover
We don’t even know
Couldn’t care less
They’re on the cover on mine with a
little like John Stamos in the corner
Anyway,
okay
So, check check your issues
Um,
there’s 11 full pages, which is amazing
Yeah,
I know
Oh, and it has all those same
features from Drew magazine
So, there’s
like her playlist, there’s a travel
feature, must have products, Dear Drew
advice column
So, yeah, check it out
There’s new photos taken by Ramona
Rosales um that apparently are for
Flower Eyewear, even though we cannot
determine that that’s actually a thing
I I think that they just like take
things for Barrymore brands and then
they use them everywhere
That’s totally
how it feels
It makes sense
There’s like a part of
me that doesn’t like it because new
stuff
And it just feels like
disorganized
It’s the way that I organize things
I feel like it feels dishonest
Let’s just talk about how much we hate
it
We love Drew
We love this love Drew
segment
It’s so fun
I mean, I know
Um, I do think there was a really like
touching response in one of the Dear
Drew letters that like got me
I
remember thinking that I mean they
always are great
So anyway, check it
out
I mean, if you have a
library card, a lot of libraries have
these for free, right
I mean, digitally I’ve been that’s
where I got all the images
Yeah, you
can look at the whole thing on through
your library, which is great
Anyway, go libraries
Okay, here we go
We got more
I’m not
gonna read this full list, but a lot of
the guests that are announced for season
six of the Drew Barrymore Show um have
come out
There’s some good ones
The
show will already be back by the time
this episode comes out
But uh just real
quick, Katherine Zeta Jones, Michael
Douglas, Jennifer Aniston, Jessica
Chastain,
David Letterman,
definitely excited about that and
feeling very inspired about that right
now
See what that means later
Anybody else
on this list you want to shout out
I mean, did you say Martha Stewart
I
feel like that’s kind of always a good
guest,
but she comes on a lot
But
does she I don’t know
So, I feel
like it’s fun
I’m excited to see David
Letterman on her show
Has he been on at
all
He surprised her on her birthday
The
first time they did a birthday episode
for her, he surprised her
and it was amazing
And it was so like
full circle because of his birthday, the
flashing
And again, I’m inspired
That’s gonna come up a little bit more
So, a little couple more fun things
because Drew just can’t stop right now
The drought is over, guys
Hibernation
has been complete
She is out of the
cave
Drew drought over
Drew drought
I feel
like there’s got to be another word in
there that makes it aiteration
Drew Drew drought is done
Drew drought is done
Also, the Drew
drought departure has happened
Say that five times fast
Drew drought departure
Drew has been announced as a presenter
for the Video Music Awards, which feels
like so random and it’s been so random
Is the last time like definitely the
next
There was like a virtual one
I don’t
even know what these shows are like
anymore
Hopefully hopefully this isn’t
virtual
I guess we can’t say for sure
Um,
yeah
I mean, nothing’s ever going to
compare to 1995 when she showed up in
that black gown and that blonde wig and
presented to like
So, I guess this is this happening this
weekend
We’re recording before it’s
happening
Well, maybe you’ll have
something to say about it next week
I
mean,
hopefully
I mean, yeah, if it was really cute,
hopefully
Um,
if it sucks, we won’t even mention it
again
We will not mention it
But, um,
speaking of cute stuff, there’s another
commercial for Garnier
I feel like it’s
maybe been a little while since they’ve
done them
And this one is like for the
National Parks Foundation and it’s so
cute
I’m such a big fan of the National
Parks and it’s adorable
They probably filmed it at the same time
as the other one where she has like the
big postcards, remember
It’s like
a continuation of that, but adorable
It’s totally cute
Like the
jean shirt is really cute
She’s wearing
like a big belt
I don’t know
It’s
adorable
Anyway, very cute
Another thing to look
online for
It’s adorable
Um it’s an
ad, but it’s adorable and we love Drew
So, it’s all right if she just keeps
doing these collabs, right
Um, all
right
And then, uh, we still have a
couple more things, guys
So, there
there’s because the show has is coming
out with a new season, they have new,
um, artwork for the Drew Barrymore show
Well, clearly they are in our DMs
because I was messaging or our texts
because I was messaging you complaining
that I can’t believe they haven’t
released new image for the new season
They’re so lazy
And then
and then there it is
Well, I and I said something like,
oh yeah,
I think I said something like, “Oh, they
wouldn’t want to lose the mac and cheese
vibes of the old of the old photo shoot,
and then the new one is exactly the same
colors
It looks just like craft mac and
cheese
“
I mean, someone is definitely reading
our messages
That’s all I can say
That’s the only explanation
No, it’s
beautiful
She looks great
She looks great
I love the I was just
going to say that, Ashley
I was going
to say I love the velvety shoes
Like
it’s the velvety that makes him so cool
Anyway, she’s looking beautiful as
always,
guys
Again, share that on the episode page as
well if you missed it, but it’s on
Drew’s Instagram, so you probably saw
it,
right
And I don’t know if we’re talking
fast enough, but we got one more cool
thing
Oh my god
Okay, so last night, as of this
recording, Drew was a surprise last
minute guest on Late Show with Steven
Cobear, which is always fun
They have a
great connection
And because this is
funny again, someone’s listening to us
It’s the universe
The last time she
went there, we were talking about how we
never really realized that they film in
the Ed Sullivan’s uh theater, which is
where Letterman was filmed
So like so much history there
So, she brings it up and she’s
talking about how she had so much great
time with Letterman in that studio and
uh she’s trying to do the dance
She’s
like even says, “You want me to do a
little dance
“
I promise you
I don’t I promise you
that was just a joke
Says almost exactly
Must have watched it right beforehand
And she gets up on that desk and does
not flash him
But she dances
Well, she dances and it’s so cute
So,
so cute
and underneath this like
adorable I love the outfit she was
wearing
Um those shoes were really darn
cute
She w takes them off, gets on the
desk, takes off or I guess she takes off
this jacket thing first and on the back
of the shirt is like bedazzled we love
Steven
It’s so cute
Matthew Kilgore did that
Of course
I kept seeing him post it
Oh, is Col Bear ending
It’s like and it’s pretty like
I know it’s pretty weird and like they
don’t understand why and he might have
said something about Trump, right
Problematic that it’s CBS
Yeah, that’s
a whole another story
It’s somewhat political
Maybe Colbear
is beloved
So, people are up in arms,
including she loves Steven
Um anyway,
it was so cute
We can’t get over how
cute it is
Well, we’re going to talk
more about this, guys
Um yeah, the only other note I made, um
their conversation’s great, so go watch
it
But um I was a little shocked
because we are deep in Little Girl Lost
as you’re about to hear
I was a little shocked to hear her just
openly tell the story about hiding weed
under a Motel 6 mattress in New Orleans
during an RV trip and forgetting it
there
And we know she went there in 96
with Nancy on their RV trip
There’s a
chapter in Wildflower about it
So, I
was like, it was just a little jarring
cuz, you know, we are talking so much
and her breaking her sobriety by smoking
pot and like, “Oh, this is so weird
“
I also feel like maybe it’s because like
I don’t know
I feel like I am surprised
to like know that Drew smoked then, but
also like not at all
Yeah, totally
That’s exactly how I
feel
It’s surprising and it’s not,
right
But it’s also like such a fun
little fact to just be casually tossed
out when we’re going to get into the
drama
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All right, so let’s get into the weekly
topic
Um, we have been working on this
weekly topic for a year and a half
I
mean, literally, if you look at like all
the work we’ve done, if you’ve been
following on Patreon, I hope that you
have
If you haven’t, let me just like
put a little reminder
So, yeah
So, we have covered the
entire Little Girl Lost book chapter by
chapter
So, we have 16 episodes like
literally deep diving on each chapter
over there
Um, and it’s all in honor of
its 35th anniversary, which is this
year, which is crazy
Yeah, we tried to wrap up this by J by
uh February, so it would like be the
anniversary
That didn’t quite happen,
but we still made it in under the under
the wire
We we still did it, guys
We still did
it
But if you want all that, if you
want all that information that we d like
dug out that Ashley like literally like
pulled out of the dregs um nitty-gritty
details, named names like they, you
know, they use like fake names in this
um
yeah,
excerpts from the chapters because we’re
not going to read a lot of it here
We
just have so much to get through um and
lots of like our personal opinions and
all that stuff
you have to go to
Patreon because you’re there’s so much
and we are like
this the like select few that have
listened
Thank you for hearing it all
and you’re just going to hear a summary
of it now
But and guys, it’s a dollar a
month and you’ll get not only the 16
exclusive episodes going through every
chapter, but a lot of like supplementary
stuff, magazine articles and photos that
go along with this
Um,
we did a lot of work
We’ve
been just enjoying this project
immensely
And now we’re gonna wrap it
up in like a giant summary with an
unbelievably special ending
Like I mean, do we even like tease it
here
I don’t know if we do
If you’re
looking at the title, you know what’s
going on
We won’t even say it
Maybe
we’ll say it in a minute
So,
trigger warnings
I know we’re in such a
good mood, but like also if you know
anything about Little Girl Loss, it’s
about what Drew went through as a like
recovering alcoholic drug abuser
So, it
goes over I don’t know why I’m laughing
Abuse, addiction, self harm, and talks
of suicide
So, this is all just putting
it out there
You know, this is an
intent
I’m
going to do a little content warning
Um I mean, let’s just read the
front of the book blurb
Right there on
the front of the book, it says, “A child
star descent into addiction and out
again
” We could just wrap it up with
that
Should we even like talk more than
that
It kind of sums it all up
Let’s just not even do the show
Bye, guys
Um I think the back of the book
because it, you know, we’re going to
summarize it, but also like it’s
interesting what they decided was like,
you know, eye-catching
So the first
thing is a quote by Drew from the book
It says, “I had my first drink at 9:00,
began smoking marijuana at 10:00, and at
12 took up cocaine
“
Also,
just to be that person,
her first drink was at the Fire Starter
Rap Party, which would have been 1983,
which would have made her eight
Just
saying
It’s wrong on the back of the book
But Drew never knows how old she was or
when things happened
So, we’ll give her
a pass
She didn’t know then
So, I’m
going to read the kind of like summary
on the back of the book
It says,
“Six-year-old Drew Barrymore became
America’s adored child star as the
wideeyed muppet Gertie in the film ET
Three years later, Drew succumbed to the
addictions that had haunted the
Barrymore family for generations
As Drew’s acting career took off, doors
opened for the ch charming star,
including the doors of late night clubs,
where soon she was a party girl trying
desperately to keep up with her older
friends
“
Yeah, if you want to hear how much
older, go to Patreon
Out of control, she used drinks and
drugs to numb her painful feelings,
often to the point of passing out
Drew
Barrymore began the process of
rebuilding her self-esteem at a
rehabilitation clinic at age 13
One more blurb says, “Little Girl
Lost is written from the heart of a
young girl whose experience mirrors that
of many young boys and girls whose lives
are tragically changed when they turn to
drugs or alcohol
Day by day, Drew
Barrymore’s making it
She knows other
kids can make it, too
” It’s pretty
helpful
And I have to say it’s
been a really long time since I’ve read
that like in depth, which sounds so
silly because we’ve been like combing
through this book
But
but yeah,
it’s very um telling that that’s how it
ends because the whole point of her
writing this book was not only to tell
her own side of the story, but she
wanted to help other kids with similar
problems
So, I love that that’s right
there on the cover of the book
So, a little bit of
background on the book before we do like
a summary, which we’ll say is quick, but
it’s probably not going to be so quick
because a lot of happens
So, Drew first did an article
about her issues for People magazine
It
was for a cover feature that came out
for their January 16th, 1989 issue
She
did that with Todd Gold
Little asterisk right there, little pin
mark
Um, and that led into them doing
the book together
So Todd has parts in
the books that are like third person
insets
There’s most of the book is, you
know, from Drew’s POV
There’s also a
couple segments with her mother Jade’s
POV, which are interesting to say the
least
Um, so Drew began working with
Todd on the book at the very end of 1988
when she was fresh out of treatment, not
for the last time sadly, and they spent
eight months together tape recording her
recollections of everything that
happened
So, we kind of learned
recently
It doesn’t really sound like
maybe Drew was there pen to paper except
for some of her um writings from the
hospital that she had to do as
assignments, but she’s sitting down with
Todd and telling him everything and he
is, you know, essentially ghostriting
for her
And the prologue of the book
immediately lets the reader know that
she was hoping to end it with this like
happily ever after, but um she had
relapsed and two more chapters were
added to the end of the book
So they
like I think we’re pretty much like
ready to go and then we going to we’re
going to retool this and she wanted to
be honest which is amaz I love that the
book just starts off tells you right
from the start before you even get into
it
I mean this book is cool guys
It really
is
You know, like it’s pretty cool that we
have this
It’s sad that it’s a it’s
recounting a story of a child who went
through something, but this child became
Drew Barrymore
Drew Barrymore, you
know, like,
and when you read what she went through
and read the state of mind she’s in from
the majority of the book and then you
reconcile that with the woman she is
today and all of her success and all of
her happiness and positivity, it’s just
like, how could anyone not be inspired
by her
A real survival story
We’re going to just kind of flow through
the book
Like we said, we’re not going
to pull like actual quotes
There are
some really great ones
So anyway, so
the book opens with some happy memories
of working on ET and then like hard cut
to droop being in treatment and the
National Inquirer breaking the story as
her addiction struggles
If you guys
don’t know what the National Enquirer
is, it’s a a tabloid, but it’s like
tabloid
It’s like tabloid rag mag like
it’s like TMZ before TMZ existed,
right
And it was like I mean I think it
was like weekly on every freaking news
stand
Is it still on the news stand
I don’t know
I’ll go tell you when I
look for US weekly
Interesting
Anyway, it’s like so like
synonymous with like tabloid
Um anyway, so they broke the story
It
It’s messed up
So um the book goes into
some general backstory about Drew’s
family history with addiction and how
Drew began smoking, drinking, and using
drugs
Um and as well as Jade’s part in
everything
So it kind of just like
almost summarizes it, I guess
Um then the book goes on to describe
what life was like in the hospitals ASAP
program
Um we go into like a lot about
like where this place is and all that in
the in the um Patreon
Ashley like dug
she dug
I’ll just say when Drew visits it on the
Drew Barrymore show in season two, they
went to the wrong place
Just say that
So if you want to know
the right place and why they got it
confused, go to Patreon
There is one quote here,
I guess
So Drew explains why she
wanted to share her story
This is
exactly what you were saying about the
back of the book
Says, “I didn’t want
to be considered another Hollywood
tragedy
That’s the last thing I am
I’m
a success
That’s why I decided to tell
my story
If I had learned anything,
it’s always better to tell the truth
And by doing so, maybe it will help
other kids not to end up like me
Oh, so sweet
All right, so the book
gets into more about the Barrymore
family history
We all know those
stories
Um, it talks about her very
early life as a baby being raised just
by her mother, Jade
Um, and how she got
into acting
There’s a whole the whole
puppy food commercial story bit on the
nose
Um, there’s stuff about Suddenly
Love, the TV movie that she did
And it
gets into how Drew was just absolutely
determined to be an actress despite what
the book tells us were Jade’s
reservations
So, this was all against
Jade’s will
No, go take a nappy
Yeah, go take a nappy
No, I want to be an actress
Like I was just like quoting this
people, what the hell are they talking
about
Anyway,
you gota you got to be in on our jokes
There’s a lore to our podcast now
Um, and then we get this story of Drew’s
first memory of her dad at age three
And it is very violent, very scary, and
that is like how she first comes to meet
him
And he pretty much stays very much
that way throughout her whole childhood
And we’re continuing on Drew’s
career
So, at age four, Drew gets her
first feature film role in the movie
Altered States, which is like sci-fi
I
need I feel like I need to rewatch it
I
might actually appreciate it weirdly
now
Yeah, you know, it’s pretty wild
Maybe we go over one of those weird like
those couple weird movies at some point
Like Bogey and Altered States
double feature,
right
So, um it starts to
explain in the book why Drew loves
acting so much
This is something we
know about her
like
this is like something that stuck with
her her whole life and still sticks with
her
whole life
Um Drew loved acting so much
because there was a feeling of belonging
with this onset family, quote unquote
Um and this is like it literally like
she’s called it a tribe
She calls her a
work family
Like she really this is
this became her family
Um, Drew felt
extremely lonely at home and it explains
that Jade was constant at work and um,
Drew had this longing for her dad
She
just wanted a presence
I think, you
know,
didn’t have to be him
No,
I mean, in a way, you know, it’s like
she was the idea of a dad
The figure
She was looking
for that figure always
That’s a theme
um she finally got to spend a little
time a little time with her dad and he
ended up being abusive and putting her
hand in a candle flame
So hence yeah maybe he wasn’t the right
person that she needed to be around but
she guess she had to learn this lesson
by literally being burned
And then go
he’s trying to say like is he trying to
tell her like anyway
Oh, he’s saying like pain is in
your mind
His all that kind of like
rambling BS he used to do
Like I know him but we know
we do kind of feels Buddhist, you know
He’s like kind of like in your mind
The flickering Buddha in the in the
corner
Like those are all his kind of
things he would say
So um Drew said she fell in love with
the script for ET and easily landed the
part of the little sister Gertie
We
know that there was a whole like
interviewed for poltergeist and then got
easy
That whole thing
they interviewed me for Poltergeist
She’s not really like the girl in the
park
I could do little Drew all day
Yeah, you could
Um and of
course we know we know people know
Maybe maybe we know but other people
don’t know
Uh Drew had the best time
filming ET
Um, Stephen, speaking of
father figures, um, Drew had Steven
Spielberg on the set of this and he was
really one of the first adults who felt
like that parental figure in her mind
She sort of like saw him
I don’t know
He he brought himself down to like
the child level and like hit them in the
face
Like that was that’s what people
know about Steven Spielberg
And I think it’s important that we
dis if you’re new here, we dispel the
myth
He was not her godfather who just
put put her in his movie
They didn’t
have they didn’t know each other
He became a godfather type figure in her
life because they bonded on this movie
She’s the reason he wanted to have kids
He saw she was lacking very much in
structure and family and he took on that
role symbolically
So just to set the
record straight
Is proverbial like the right word to
use
I don’t know
I don’t know
Um, but anyway, yes, thank
you for saying that
So, Jade quits her jobs and her
own like struggling acting career that
have been going on and becomes Drew’s
full-time manager
And then ET comes out and they were
totally unprepared for how huge that
movie was
Like, how could I became the
biggest movie of all time,
right
And Drew and her co-stars literally
became famous overnight
And seven-year-old Drew does like all
this press
She’s traveling the world
She goes on the Tonight Show with Johnny
Carson
She hosts SNL and she’s still
the youngest host ever to this day
Like,
yep
A lot for a seven-year-old
And I’m just
going to say really quick, you were just
looking, we were just looking at
pictures of like the promotion for ET
And I think you said something about
like, oh my god, the photographers or
like all the kids waiting for her
autograph
Like it kind of made you feel
weird
And it’s because of this book
that we feel that I know
Like we know
how she was feeling is scared
It was
very overwhelming for her
Um, and then
going back to school after all this was
totally difficult
She doesn’t fit in
anymore
She’s getting teased
They call
her ET, which makes no sense, right
Um,
she has yet another abusive encounter
with her dad um where he’s doing like
karate kicks to her and stuff like that
And then she decides she does not want
to see him anymore
And I think she
really doesn’t for the rest of the book
Like I don’t think she sees him again
until she’s a teenager
That’s wild
They talk, but I guess
they don’t see each other,
right
That’s kind of weird
It is weird
Um, and then she does
another movie called Irreconcilable
Differences, and it’s totally opposite
from ET, the filming experience
It’s
really hard
There’s like fighting on
it’s just not enjoyable
And she
considers quitting acting because it was
just that rough
So, um, Drew then and this is like
it kind of like goes through her
biography, but I think it’s good that it
does
I don’t know
tells us a lot about
how quickly her career was climbing
also
So, um, she lands the lead role in
Stephen King’s Fire Starter, and we have
an episode about that, by the way
Um,
and temporarily moves to Wilmington,
North Carolina
Um, and she says filming is an
exhausting experience, and they’re doing
a lot of late nights because it’s like,
um, because it’s like fire and anyway,
they want the night
Drew becomes what she calls like an
honorary me member of her stand-ins
family, the wards
Do we talk about the
wards for a second here
No, I mean we can just say we met them,
which is crazy
Yeah, if you if you want to hear about
that, listen to our episode about going
on the Drew Barrymore show, which is
also crazy
Guys, let’s let’s get back
into this
Um, yeah, the meeting the
words was just totally surprising
They
were very sweet
So anyway, we kind of
like reading this knowing them is like
weird knowing
it’s like characters out of a book
coming into your real life
It’s very
strange
Said to them,
but it felt like to me
I don’t know
I
probably just said that privately
probably
Anyway, so um the wards, they
were exactly what Drew was craving
because she was so unhappy with her
lonely home life
So this was like the
epitome of family, right
Just lots of stories about what it was
like to be part of such a quote unquote
normal family
Mom, dad, brother, sister, like
Yeah
go to church, eat dinner together,
white pick a fence
Like you can only
imagine, right
So, at the rep party, Drew bet some crew
members that she can down two glasses of
champagne, which she does, and passes
out
Back in LA, Drew and Jade began going
out to parties and events on a regular
basis
So, you’re you said earlier she’s
eight years old
So, um
I know there’s a lot of in our Patreon
episodes when I’m just like digesting
information that’s so upsetting
So, um
uh they go back to North Carolina the
following summer to film Cats Eye, which
we did like a combo episode for these
two,
another Stephen King story, and gets to
basically live with the words again
So,
she like has to go through this, but
it’s also she’s
like it’s breaking her heart each each
time she’s like leaving this family
And this is a I mean that’s another
reoccurring theme in her life getting
close to people
I mean it happened on
ET as well
She feels like she’s part of
this family
She has to say goodbye and
leave
Like that’s hard to understand
Why she holds on to her like old friends
so much like her friends are her family
And also like I just like having met
these people which I know it was like
40 years after they spoke to her but
yeah I
they were very um warm
like I just sent and like Drew’s warmth
like anyway
Yeah, they probably were a really
formative part of her personality like
right
it’s and it’s how she wanted like a home
life to feel
So Drew is now nine and she hated
going back to school after filming Cat’s
Eye
It’s like super boring in
comparison to her party life
Like she’s
doing clubs at night and then expected
to go like do math problems and
and have a normal life in the daytime
Um she doesn’t perform well at
school and the teachers and the other
students are absolutely horrible to her
There’s specific examples in the book
that are just heartbreaking
So, club life becomes her sanctuary and
she starts wanting to go out every
night
Like, why not
What’s cooler than
that for a nine-year-old
And
she’s accepted there
She’s part of the
group
Like, this is what she’s always
wanting
And so, she starts smoking cigarettes
and sneak sneaking drinks to mimic the
adults that she’s partying with, of
course
And that includes the brat pack
at Roblo’s birthday
Just have to
include that name drop
And any anytime she’s caught
doing something like this, the
punishment doesn’t stick because an
event comes up
So, we got to go out on
the town again
So, I guess you’re not
grounded anymore
Um, and then there’s also lots of really
fun stories about her crush on classmate
Breen and Meyer and how they learned how
to kiss with each other
So, that’s
definitely like a fun little sidebar
Yeah, I’m picturing the the interview
with the teacher, right
That’s not about Breen, but
Oh, it’s not
It’s about somebody
else
And that was the first kiss
That’s right
So, now jump
forward
Drew is 10, 11
Um, work starts
to slow down for Drew because she’s
reached this age where she’s between
childhood and teenage
So, awkward
We
all know what that’s like
lots of episodesing stories about
like partying and drinking because she’s
trying to escape this like awkward
feeling
I having access to that stuff
at an age
I don’t know
your mind
I mean, I’m not like uh
anyway,
we we have opinions
We have a lot of
strong opinions
So, um Drew’s friend’s mom
eventually casually offers pot to Drew,
which she loves, and begins to spark
start smoking regularly,
including apparently in New Orleans in a
Motel 6
And um so this cycle begins of feeling
horrible about herself and
self-medicating
So this is like
becoming a coping mechanism, a huge one
Um then while this stuff is happening,
Drew gets a role in a film that’s
filming in Germany and that’s Babes in
Toyland
We have an episode about that
It’s freaking crazy
Both the Fire Starter Catsite and the
Babes and Toyland episodes are really
fun because those movies are there’s
some shaky stuff in there and sometimes
talking about those ones are even more
enjoyable than the good ones
Um, so also while she’s in
Germany there’s some wild antics with
Rod Stewart’s band and she’s 10 11 at
this time and she dates a 15year-old on
set
All right
They’re dating
Um, and it talks about them like
making out maybe
So, um,
Drew when she gets back, she changes to
a school that goes up through high
school age
So, this is like elementary
through high school
I guess it’s like
private schools, right
So,
so she begins to party with the older
students who could drive
She has access now
She also I feel like
you know at this point is talking about
like how these sort of people who she
can relate to
She sort of like relate
more to the older kids cuz she’s like a
working actress and then she has to go
like live this normal life
and she knows how to party and the the
high schoolers are like cool now we have
like our little 12-year-old mascot
hanging around with us and she can smoke
and drink too like
right so
party
and during this time Drew of course I
guess maybe I I want to say of course
she becomes more and more alienated from
her mom but I just want to say about
that really quick is like
I feel like Jade keeps saying she is
always there
I guess maybe at this No,
she wasn’t working at this time
So,
it’s weird that she like says
I think her always there is talking
about when they would go to events and
parties and clubs, but now that Drew has
friends with the with cars like bye
Like she is Jade is no longer around and
I don’t think that’s what she’s
referring to
And I feel like I mean I guess we also
know that Jade didn’t
didn’t know what was going on
supposedly
And also like what when you said
of course she becomes more and more
alienated from her mom
It is of course
because she saw Jade as this like thing
that got in the way like an obstacle to
her going out and having fun
If Jade
tried to set any limitations she’s like
now the enemy like mess up my life
There was no punishment that stuck
because for whatever reason but also
whatever Drew basically did what she
wanted
Very much so
Um, so she there’s a whole section where
she’s spending a lot of time at an
unnamed Italian actress’s home
You can
read between the lines or you can go
listen to Patreon to find out who that
is
And she’s hanging out with her two
sons, particularly partying through the
night with the much older one
So,
there’s that, which I hate
Um, things
with Jade just continue getting worse,
including an incident of verbal abuse
from her mom that culminated in Drew
slapping her
That’s a real like shocker
little incident
Um, Drew is totally
miserable and depressed
So then she has to go to New York
against her will to film See You in the
Morning
And this is the first time she
is not even excited about work
And I
love that you like we it’s wr you wrote
it as against her will or that you said
against her will because she’s literally
saying like
I don’t want it
jumped out to me reading on this read
like her being like I don’t want to do
this movie and well too bad like this is
good for your career which you know that
really that really bothered me
Um
so they go to New York
Um Drew
befriends a 17-year-old model named
Stacy there and they start going to all
the New York clubs together
like just
no, no one cares how old anybody is
Drew’s 12 at this point, about to turn
13,
right
She’s constantly fighting with Jade,
includes there’s a whole time where she
goes on a rampage in their apartment
She breaks vases, a picture of iced tea
She then takes money from Jade’s wallet
and says, “I’m leaving, bitch
“
So, that’s kind of where we’re at there,
just to give one little example
And she
also gets a high school senior boyfriend
named Bobby
And so she’s usually
staying either at Bobby’s house or with
Stacy
Stacy like lives with her sister
and she’s rarely coming home
Maybe stopping in to get some clothes
and then roller skating down the streets
of Manhattan away
The roller skating
is so amazing to imagine
I would love to see a picture of
12year-old Drew roller skating in the
streets of Manhattan
Imagine if someone
has that
Ooh, let’s put it out in the universe
right now
This is going to be a new old thing next
episode
All right
So, speaking of this
boyfriend, Bobby, who is a senior, um,
he’s really to to like very toxic
He’s
like possessive
They’re like always
fighting and it sounds like it’s like
quite tumultuous
There’s a part where they’re like
slapping each other at a party
don’t like that
But Drew romanticizes
it and she had a hard time saying
goodbye to him when filming wrapped
So, yeah
So, then we’re back in LA
Um,
Drew is surprised to learn that one of
her party friends, Chelsea, is now sober
after going through treatment
Drew’s like, “What a what a loser
And then immediately, not
immediately, but she ends up trying
cocaine for the first time at her
school’s prom and is instantly hooked
I’m still thinking about like chem how
this like me like chemically messes with
your brain like that there’s probably a
reason why there was a lot of like um
backlash like with her mom like fighting
like that like I don’t know
totally absolutely yeah
I don’t know and I don’t know
what you said about how she’s instantly
hooked I mean the book makes it sound
like she’s just like coke coke coke like
all the time
right
like no exaggeration
but also like ah just imagine her like
acquiring at this 12-year-old so anyway
Oh my god
One night after staying out like way
past curfew, she comes home completely
wasted and tries to tell her mom to
leave the house
Like she’s literally
like trying to demand I and I I think we
talked about it in in in the Patreon,
but I kept thinking like for Jade,
imagine going through having been with
her dad, Drew’s dad
who did this and then now Drew’s
doing it
It’s definitely mentioned at some
somewhere,
right
I’ve just read something
I don’t
remember if it’s the book or one of the
articles at this time, but she did have
that like, oh, like is my child like
turning into
scary
her dad
So, speaking of that friend who just got
sober, Jade calls Chelsea’s mom to have
her come over so they can take Drew to
the treatment program
So, here we are
like twothirds through the book, I
guess, or something like that
And Drew’s 13 at this point
So, like I
just I I always want to hammer home her
age because it really is just so
shocking
It’s important
So 13-year-old Drew, she’s admitted to
the ASAP treatment program in the middle
of the night
There’s a lot of details
about like the program and what the
intake process was like um at the
center
She’s dealing with like rules
and boundaries for literally the first
time ever in her life
And um she’s miserable and furious about
being stuck there
After a little bit of time, she starts
to sort of warm up to the program
She’s
like coming to terms that she has some
issues and about her unhappiness with
herself and all her with her
parents
But only 12 days, so not even two weeks
after she checks in against medical
advice, she is taken to Northern Nevada
to film the movie Far From Home
So
again, this is like the second project
in a row that’s like she maybe shouldn’t
be doing this,
right
Like
she’s just starting to get in the swing
of things in rehab and they’re like,
“Eh, we got to we got to leave
We got
this movie we got to go to
She’s got work to do
She’s got to
really important far from home
She’s got to support us
She’s got to
go
” Um, so Drew, um, managed to stay
sober for the two months of filming even
though she was still trying to act like
an adult and going out to casinos and
gambling which is just wild
Like I think she says something in this
part about like looking like the age or
something and I’m like maybe cuz like I
mean I don’t know
And I talked about how it would never
work in Las Vegas these days
Like this
is Carson City
I don’t know what it’s
like up there, but
like you you can’t even like stand next
to a slot machine for very long if
you’re not 21 before they come and
they’re like, “Hey,
right,
get out of here
“
Things are different
Things are
different
I mean, let’s let’s also say
like this is the 80s
We haven’t been saying the year, but
like guys, did we say this book came out
in 1990 and we’re talking about, you
know,
the 80s is a free-for-all time
It’s a time
So, um,
Drew checks back to ASAP when filming’s
completed and she realizes that she
experienced what’s called dry time where
she’s hanging out with people who are
using substances even though she wasn’t
herself
So, basically, it’s like not as
bad, but you’re b you’re still
surrounding yourself in those things
Um,
yeah
Six days later,
Brew checks out again to go to New York
to loop some dialogue for see you in the
morning
So, in New York, guess what
She calls her friend Stacy
They go to a
club, and Drew breaks her sobriety by
doing Coke
And there’s this whole Is
this the thing where they’re in the
bathroom
So, it’s it’s a really interesting
exchange
Um, like Drew’s thought
process,
but after this is one of the craziest
things in the book, right
This is like the number one
like, wow
So, is she still 12
She’s 13
So, 13 years old
She does Coke
with her friend Stacy, which leads to
this famous cokefueled incident of Drew
stealing Jade’s credit card, secretly
flying to Los Angeles
She’s like
convincing the gate agent like,
“My mom gave me this credit card to buy
myself, of course
” Anyway, it’s a whole
thing
She books a flight to Hawaii,
gets in a minor car crash, and goes on a
shopping spree until finally getting
stopped by two private agents who are
hired by Jade to take her back to ASAP
And I think they like end up like
encountering her at their house
So Drew
ends up going to their LA home
It’s the
whole thing is like what
Um, you definitely are going to
want to hear the playbyplay if you’re
not familiar with the story
Like that
was a very brief summary
Uh she’s doing
Coke like nonstop
Like to the point
that her friend was even like I think
that’s a little too much
You know,
right
It’s it’s
it’s a binge
It’s a fullon binge
There you go
Can I say something
really quick
I just We didn’t say at the top, but I
feel like I want to say we’re not here
to like shame Drew
Or like or like put any of this stuff
like in the spot like it’s like it’s
going to shock
Like it’s out there and
we’re just I don’t know
I guess I just
wanted to say that like I feel like
we’re not here to be like, “Can you
believe how like wild and disgusting she
was
” It’s more like
I don’t know
It’s more like, “Wow, this girl
struggled and had some real issues and
look at how she turned her life around
She’s amazing
We don’t blame
her
This is all to celebrate the
Yeah, we’re not even like blaming her
mom,
right,
too much
There’s some things that I
can’t help myself for blame her for, but
it, you know, they were a bad combo
I guess I just I just had
to say it because I felt like, oh,
there’s this like part of me that’s just
like
Yeah
I don’t know
Being eaten by the
negativity
I don’t know
You know, but let’s let’s continue
I’m glad you said it
So, Drew is
back in ASAP and she’s super rebellious
and withdrawn um for a while, but she
eventually comes to terms with the fact
that like this binge, she has hit rock
bottom at this point
So, she starts making some really
self-aware lists of her issues and
working on herself while Jade is
intentionally kept away from her
And progress is really slow and it does
briefly go backwards for a little bit
when she starts dating this other teen
in the program named Rick
And he’s a
total loser jerk
We don’t
like Rick
Um, she’s punished with ITP,
which was intensive treatment program, a
record number of times, including once
after being caught in Rick’s room
So,
she’s still acting out
It’s not like
she’s just like, “Okay, I want to be
cured
” Like, she’s she’s
trying, but she’s also still rebelling
because that’s who she is, right
Um, and during all this, Drew’s
paternal grandfather passes away,
and this really deeply affects her and
makes her want to work harder at the
program
And it’s a very touching
segment that also has a whole chapter in
Wild Flowers
It’s kind of it’s one of
the few things that you see in both
books
Really,
Right
Um, which we’re going to
be doing Wildflower next over at
Patreon, guys
So, you want to hear us
talk about that and all the other fun
chapters in Wildflower, do it
Um, Drew in the program is
continuing to work on her self-worth and
to face her issues with her mom and dad,
but this theme of her like parents and
her self worth is like over and and is
still
and they’re very tied
Like when we read
this book, we’re going, “Oh, no wonder
she feels like about herself
No
wonder she talks this way to herself
“
Like,
it’s all like very clear when you see
what she was growing up with
Drew is determined to earn
the right to something called growth
group where she’ll be able to leave the
hospital with other patients to do like
fun activities outside the hospital
Um,
which she does eventually achieve
Um,
she starts to spend some time with David
Crosby, the musician, if you don’t know
who that is, quite a prolific musician
Um, and his wife Jan Dance, who act
somewhat like sponsors to her
And I’ll
just explain what sponsors is if you
don’t know like sobriety lingo
It’s
like basically like people who have gone
through some kind of recovery and can
like guide you
It becomes like your
like personal guide
Um Drew did some role playing with her
counselor’s husband who had known Drew’s
dad, so he like acted out being her dad
It was very interesting
And it was to help Drew work through
some issues with him
That that was a it
was kind of a cool part in the book
where I don’t know
I always it always stuck with me
that that part
It’s neat
I mean I don’t know
I guess
also that somebody who knew Drew’s dad
like I feel like maybe she didn’t really
have a chance to like Except for her
mom
I don’t know
Yeah, but her mom never talked about her
dad
There’s a whole part where she’s
like I don’t know how you met
Like I’ve
never seen pictures of you guys
together
Well, yeah,
we gave her a picture of it together,
but that’s a whole other story
Yes, we did
There’s a lot of Again,
there’s some lore to us, guys
Um, Drew was able to arrange a phone
call with her dad and she came to this
conclusion that she truly needed to let
go of him
Like, she decides she could
love him, but she didn’t need him in her
life
Um, and she like realizes he can’t
really be a dad to her in any kind of
traditional way
So, it’s like
and really makes peace with it
And it’s
like we both went whoa
Like she carried
this for the rest of his life
like at
13 she was able to come to terms with
that and like
that was okay from that
And I also I love knowing that she found
a way somewhat unique and untraditional
way to keep him in her life later like
she kind of helped support him like
which maybe is like weird but like
she accepted him for who he was
So, 13-year-old Drew
gets her discharge date in December
1988, and shortly after that is when the
National Enquirer breaks the story
It’s
like, God, she was so close
Um, and
despite all the media frenzy that comes
out of that, she stays focused on
finishing out her treatment
And funnily enough, once she’s released,
she films this teen rehab TV special
called 15 and Getting Straight
It’s
like a after school special at the exact
same hospital where she had just been
released
Y
that’s just like a funny little
coincidence
Like
I know
I still I still want to know
more about that
How that was arranged if they’re
just like you’re you know like we
already know some people who’ve come out
of here
You’ll be very comfortable
here
Um so Drew decides to tell her story in
her own words to People magazine as we
mentioned above
Um she continues to have ups and downs
but she’s like committed and hopeful
about her recovery
The book is going to
end here
She’s alive
She’s doing
great
And then hard cut
Hard cut
So, this it’s it’s very
I think it’s really cool that not cool
that it happened, but that they were
able to do this cuz I feel like that
probably added an element for people
reading it of like realness
And like, okay, wow
Like if
you’re an addict and then you read the
story, but it all ends up fine and she’s
recovered and great, right
That’s
probably a different feeling than boy,
she thought she was good, but she
relapsed
Like, yeah, I can relate to
that
I don’t know if it’s like I don’t know
where I’m getting this exact phrase, but
what I’ve heard, I guess, is like
recovery is not linear
Oh, I love that
So, like, yeah,
it shows that it’s not linear
Um, so
unfortunately what we’re getting to is
Drew relapses um by smoking a joint with
her friends at her both her six month
and eight months of quote unquote
sobriety
So she continued this lie um
and was celebrating these eight months
and then smoking pot celebrating the six
months smoking pot
But she keeps it a
secret from everyone which makes her
feel really guilty and she’s holding on
to this for a while
Um, she starts
dating a 22year-old actor, quote
unquote, Peter, who eventually begins
spending some time and forming forming a
relationship with her mom instead
And
we we know that this is kind of a
thing that Drew has alluded to that her
mom might have dated people that she
dated because she wanted to like be her
a little bit
Is that what she said
Again, we have the exact uh audio
if you want to go listen to her talk
about that on Patreon
We’re just gonna
keep telling you guys, we don’t have
time to get into everything here
You gotta go pay your dollar and get the
deets
And we still have a little bit of
more of this to go and then there’s a
really wonderful surprise at the end of
this episode
If you read the title, you
know, but we have something juicy
Um
okay, so there’s lots of juicy stuff in
the book, but there’s more juicy here,
too
So, um she um starts acting out
because her mom is
dating her exboyfriend
I guess they they are all kind of like
dancing around him dating too
They keep
saying like hanging out explicitly said,
but it’s very
you can read between the lines,
right
So, Drew moves out of her mom’s
place to live with her friend Edy, quote
unquote
Do we do we say who that is
here or is that a name
Okay,
so we know who this Edie is
Um, they go
into their own apartment and she works
odd jobs to support herself
And it says
she’s a doorman at clubs, which we found
to be like so wild, but also like
what I’m I’m what I said was like,
okay, not only do I want to see Drew
Barrymore roller skating in Manhattan, I
also want to see little Drew Barrymore
as a doorman at a club
checking IDs
Like, what happening
Aren’t you Drew Barrymore
Aren’t you 14
So, um, Jer ends up smoking pot
again and falls into a deep depression
over everything that’s going on
She’s
hiding her relapse and seeing her mom
and Peter together
Like, she’s just not
in a good place
And we are
basically to the end of the book
gets worse before it gets better
Again, content warnings here
Um,
so Drew gets like out of control,
hysterical
She’s in this deep
depression in front of her friend Edie
She attempts to slash her arm with a
kitchen knife as a cry for help
She
calls it some she felt it was this giant
exclamation point
So like, “Please, I’m
in pain
” Um, she’s taken to a hospital
and when she’s there, she calls her mom
and admits to her that she had gotten
high and then she’s immediately taken
back to ASAP
And she says, we loved
this quote, she says, “We need to do
something about my mother
” So Jade is
sent to her own treatment program in
Arizona to deal with her codependency
and to try to learn how to be a parent
The book ends 13 days before Drew is
about to be released for the last time
It is the last time um with a sense of
hope about her relationship with her mom
and her sobriety, but she admits that
she can’t know for sure what the future
will bring
She just needs to quote do
the best she can
And it’s kind of awesome because it
really did have a happy ending
Like at
that point, like as far as we know,
there were no
nothing this dramatically of a struggle
again until she got divorced from Will
that we know of that we know of,
right
Um but yeah, we’ve reached the
end of the book
It has this kind of
hopeful feeling but also realistic
this
like do the best she can is also like
all you do is all you can do is the best
you can
Um
so let’s get into the release of the
book which like we said was 35 and a
half years ago a little bit more than
that
Um Drew um said about the release she
said all these different publishing
companies called
It was buzzing
They
were going she’s got recovery, she’s got
time, she’s got a great story
Please
let us write her book
And she said,
“The reason I chose Simon and Schustster
as my publisher was that they were more
interested in what I had to say than
what they wanted me to say
” Which is so
strange
Love that
And she said, “Of course, since
I’m not an author, I had to have a
coowwriter and they were very flexible
about who I would use
” She said this in
1992, so it’s kind of weird that that’s
only like two years after the release
I know, but it feels like a whole
different era of Drew,
right
Um, so it’s kind of cool that she
had a say in these things and that’s
something we’ve learned in a couple
different ways that like
Interesting
You’re right
Um,
so the book was published on February
1st, 1990
Again, happy anniversary
35
years
and it was published by the Pocketbooks
division of Simon and Schustster
On March 4th of 1990, it reached number
14 on the New York Times non-fiction
bestsellers list, which is really cool
That is cool
Um, all right
We’ve got
another quote from 1992
It says, “Drew
said, “When it came out, I was very
nervous
For the first two days, I
stayed in my house
Then a couple of
weeks later, my publisher called and
said, I just wanted to congratulate you
on being a best-selling author
I don’t
give a damn that I’m a best-selling
author
” The point was that I
reached tons of people
People would
come up to me and say, “I just read your
book
I’ve been honest to my parents
I
finally told them how I felt about
them
” And she said, “That’s all that
mattered
” So, yeah,
that’s awesome
Um,
that’s so cool
Yeah, a lot of the response from the
readers were teenagers who were going
through similar issues and really found
that the book was helpful
I would love to know like how many how
many teenagers are we talking about
Hundreds, thousands, like how many
people were affected that way by the
book,
right
Um, okay
We can’t know that
So, the
paperback was released in 1991
We have
both
They’re both different covers
And the book has become
somewhat of a cult classic
Like it’s
not just because it was helpful to
people, but it’s also like it’s a cool
it’s a great Hollywood memoir
Um it’s
been out of print for years and
secondhand copies rarely sell for less
than $50 these days
I feel like I see
it average more like 75, which is wild
Um you can borrow it online
digitally from archive
org just so you
guys know
And now that um we don’t need
to get into it all the time, I will let
you guys know
You can go in and take it
instead cuz only one person can read it
at a time
There were a couple times
where I went to go in and it was like
someone else is borrowing it and I’m
like, “Oh my god
“
Yeah, cuz it’s like for like an hour or
something
Is it for like It’s like
Yeah
That’s It’s so cool
It’s cool that they have it, but it’s
also kind of like wild that Yeah
You
have to like fight for it like a regular
library
They only have a certain number
of like digital copy
I don’t think you can get it at
libraries for the most part
like,
oh wow,
it’s really, you know, it’s become a
rarity, which is kind of interesting
Um, so let’s talk about like just our
final thoughts on the book
We didn’t talk about our like experience
um first time around
We talk about that
on Patreon if you guys want to know our
like origin stories with Little Girl
Loss
But
I came away like, okay, like I just said
before, it’s a really awesome celebrity
memoir
There’s incredible behind
the-scenes info from Hollywood
There’s
named dropping
There’s wild stories
Like anything about a child star is kind
of got its own level of fascination
built in
Um it’s also a very
frustrating read for me at times
I was
just like
over and over again
as a mom
I think for you
as a mom especially just so frustrated
with how many adults fail her
Um, but it’s also like I I already
said again, so inspiring to see how she
went from this to who she is now
Like
you will read this book and it is so
hard to reconcile that this is our girl
Drew
Like this her her thought process,
her
angst, like her way of looking at life
have changed so much because of what she
went through
I mean,
let’s just take the window thing as an
example
You know, the whole internet
made fun of her because there’s this
video where she’s doing like renovation
in her house and she discovers there was
a hidden window behind a wall and she
starts crying and it’s because she was
locked up at 13 years old and like
couldn’t go outside in the world
So, a
window is like, you know, just things
like that
It’s very much like
where she comes from
And um I guess I
just wanted to say about that particular
thing like she like has said it’s what
made her appreciate like the sky
She says I think it’s on
um
not that she couldn’t go outside but she
just into like the real world for a
while
She says like um she would see a traffic
light and be like do people realize how
beautiful that is
Like
Yeah
Um, but yeah, reading this as a
teenager when I first got into Drew
was just like, woo, this is wild
This
is crazy
Reading it as an adult,
totally different perspectives, totally
different empathy, totally different
just like, oh, I just want to I wish I
could have taken care of this girl, you
know
It’s it’s really, if you haven’t
read it since you were a teenager, I
highly recommend just for like such a
different
point of view and a really different
experience
And we were also digging so
deep into everything
So,
right
I guess like my final thoughts
have to do I mean all those things you
said like Yes
But also like about like
having read it as a teen versus reading
it now like the perspective of being an
adult, the perspective of Drew like
knowing what she grew up to become
And
you were saying something about like
almost not being able to recognize the
Drew we know now in some of this
But I
also feel like because we are using it
as sort of like putting together her
like timeline of like who she is like
we’re almost like studying her through
it which is like such a strange thing
but we call ourselves historians
We we
genuinely are like studying which is
interesting
I mean as historians were so lucky to
have this as a resource like this is
incredible
It’s such a like
unbelievably intimate look into her
young life
It’s interesting to be on
the other side of like being a teen
where now I’m like looking at it from
not only like a scholarly perspective
almost but like also just yeah having
maturity looking down on it like I don’t
know I literally was probably like close
to the age I think I was like 14 the
first time I read this book so maybe 15
So like I would have recognized the
angst, you know, like like you like you
almost but recognized it in yourself
almost
I feel like we’ve said a lot
We’ve said
a lot about the book
There’s like more than 20 hours of us
talking about the book on Patreon
probably
I haven’t even done the math
Can you believe in here we’ve
barely scratched the surface
like we we
hit everything, but like it’s just it’s
a there’s a lot that goes on
So, there’s more
There is more
There’s a lot more
[Music]
So, the book is Little Girl Lost by Drew
Barrymore with Todd Gold
And guys, we
have Todd Gold on the show
This man who told us he doesn’t do
interviews, told us he doesn’t do this
stuff, agreed to
There was a little bit
of like time where we’ve been
communicating with this man and breaking
him down so that we could get this
When you put it like that, it sounds
awful
But no, he he came to us very
willingly at the end of it and very like
um he kind of said that he was honored
So that’s why
which was weird for us
You’ll hear all that,
right
You’ll hear it
But like we the
fact that we spent the time doing this
was
somehow we came to it with this mutual
respect which was like really kind of
cool
Guys, this was so cool for us to
do
So, I hope that you enjoy it
[Music]
Okay, so today we have joining us Todd
Gold, who is a prolific journalist and
editor and has collaborated on dozens of
highprofile memoirs
He is the co-author
of Drew Barrymore’s 1990 autobiography,
Little Girl Lost
And we are so excited
to have him here
Thank you, Todd
Thank you, Todd
Thank you for being
here
This is so cool
I I feel like we
should mention to you that we were
somewhat familiar with you as a person
because um of your interviews that you
did way back in the ‘9s on Drew’s e
celebrity profile and I want to say A&E
biography as well
Do you recall that
I I don’t recall anything
So this is
going to be a tough interview
We’re going to take you down memory lane
a little bit of like our memory of you
and you having no knowledge of us
Yeah,
it’s great
This is going to be fun
Yeah, I think so, too
Um, so we wanted
to get a little bit into like our
history with the book, like when we
first remember reading it and just how
we’re reacting as adults
Yeah, we both
got our copies here
Hold our copies
But I read this copy that I’m holding
for the first time
I think I was 14 or
15 years old
So, I would have been like
right around the age Drew was when she
wrote it
I don’t have a lot of memories
about it except I was already a huge fan
of her
So, it was really incredible to
get into these details about her life at
a time when I was kind of experiencing
teenage drama, you know, my own
Um, but
since we’ve been going back to it, the
perspective as an adult has been
insanely
like
eyearing,
but jarring and eye opening
But Ashley,
go ahead and say what you
similar
I mean, my funny story, Todd,
about this book is that my older cousin,
she used to give me her hand-me-down
books
She was a big reader just like
me
And as a 10-year-old or whatever I
was when I got the book, I remember
being like, “Ooh, like drugs
Like, I
can’t read this
This is scandalous
“
And so, I I put it away and I didn’t
read it for years until I came to know
who Drew was and be interested in her
life
And then I used to read it like
seasonally like I would make this like
okay every Christmas time and every
summer I would reread it
I don’t know
what that was about
I was a weird
teenager
But so I’ve read it dozens of
times
And this most recent read through
that Ann and I have done as an adult, as
a mom, it’s very
shocking
It really is
Like I think as
a teen we’re just like whoa Drew was a
badass and now it’s like wow this life
is unbelievable
Well, I’d be curious to
know two things from what both of you
said, you know, and and Ann, I guess
especially you
Um, what first attracted
you to the
book and and and and why’d you read it
And then both of you mentioned that
you’ve you’ve read it and reread it as
adults and it’s really eyeopening
What
about it is eye opening and what about
it is is so sticky
So, it’s interesting
because it came from this point of view
as a fan of Drew at this time when she
was like America’s sweetheart girl next
door, you know, she and this is like,
you know, 1998, 1999
So, her her image
was so different than what she was, you
know, in this book
So, I think um I
came to it literally as as as someone
who was interested in Drew’s background
So it was like I consciously went to go
and read this book, you know, I was like
this is part of the lore of this person
that I love
I like what you said about what do we
find sticky about it now
And my my
I think eye opening too
Sorry, but
sticky
What what about it, you know,
allows it to thrive and and continue to
interest you
But also what is eye
opening or what opens your eyes as you
reread it
I would say um one of the
things would be how do you reconcile
this person with who she has become
today
That is so fascinating and
amazing and inspiring to see her go from
like these lowest lows to being who she
is now and in the book almost feeling
like she didn’t know if she had any
future and now it’s like oh my gosh
everything that came afterward is so
incredible
Um that would be one thing
The other thing I have a hard time with
is how many adults fail her in her young
life
And it just felt like no one was
looking out for her
And it that’s
jumped out to me as an adult much more
than I ever noticed as a teenager
reading it
And I’ll just say about the
eyeopening thing
I think similarly to
what Ashley was saying, sometimes it
gives some perspective on why Drew is
the way she is as far as like her
self-esteem,
you know, like why she is so giving and
kind like comes from this place of like
what she went through
And I so so I
think when we are able to like trace
back those steps,
her the way that she is like makes more
and more sense
And we like kind of
putting these puzzle pieces together of
like her because we’re we’re now
literally considering ourselves
historians
All this time we’ve been
fans and you know we were so young and
now we’re like interested as
full-g grown adults like you know we
have we are older than some of these
adults who were failing her in this book
you know like it’s
it’s fascinating
So that’s the been eye
openening for me is learning more about
this person that I feel like I know a
lot about and then remembering how much
more there is
I don’t know
connecting those dots
I’m I’m always surprised when it
surfaces in the news
Uh I think there
was a piece a year or two ago in the New
York Times
I just reread that
Somebody wrote about that
I saw on
Drew’s show that uh Pink pulled out her
hard coverver and talked about doing a
book report in seventh grade on the
book
That’s right
And it just it kind of surfaces in all
these different ways
And it was it’s
now I I think probably 30 years old
35
years old
This is the year of 35
So 35 years
And I I think about
the um the changes in in culture and
celebrity culture
and and how what Drew represents there
both you know and how celebrity cultures
changed but how uh so much of the human
heart remains the same
what interests us and um you know I
I think those are some of the reasons
that it keeps surfacing but I I you know
I’m amazed because I look at it I I
don’t remember that much about it
I remember certain things very keenly
but I look at it as you know the first
big project I did and
I’d love chances to redo it and make it
better
We totally get that
Yeah, absolutely
But it is what it is
and it’s seems to be uh holding up or
whatever
I mean, I don’t know if you’re aware
that it’s out of print, but you can’t
buy a secondhand copy for less than $50
I mean, it usually goes for 75 anywhere
you see it for sale
It’s very coveted
still
It’s interesting
It’s so interesting because I remember
seeing the paperback on the shelf at
Barnes & Noble
And being able to grab it for, you know,
six bucks or something like I remember
that
So, I know that I bought I have
like this old copy and then I I think I
bought one because I was like, “Oh, I
want a fresh one
” Like, literally, you
can’t find it
Isn’t that funny
Well, I I remember when it came out and
the excitement,
of course,
and you know, because it was my first
the first book I had worked on
We didn’t know that
It was very exciting
And it was also
very nerve-wracking because uh you know
we were nervous about the reception and
and uh you know whether people would be
interested or highly critical
Drew would react
Our family would react
But all that
aside, you know, I I told you when um
I’m going to jump around a little bit,
but when you first contacted me ages ago
and and I told you I don’t do interviews
and don’t ever talk about books and and
um at some point I began reconsidering
be just to try and honor the effort and
the work that you two have have put into
uh celebrating and and talking about the
book
And I and and the reason I’m
talking to you now is because I I I
think you um you know I’m the privileged
one
You know more about it than I do
certainly
But I mentioned uh at some
point in our back and forth that I had a
box of
from from you know working on this book
I had a box of papers that I hadn’t
looked at
probably since 1989
The book I think
came out in early in February of of
1990, but
uh
we wrote it in ’89 and it took about
six, seven months for it to be published
to go through the editorial process
And
so I pulled that box out today uh to
give you something different that I know
that you don’t have
Oh my gosh
You know, in your in your archives
the archivists and neess are like,
“Oh my gosh,
some of this stuff you do have
” Um, but
but I thought I’d pull it out and and
one of the things and we’re talking
about the um
the the way culture has evolved and
technology and the way we communicate
with each other
But I I found there’s
this notebook and so this is the
original dot matrix printout
hard working copy that I would
write and then give to Drew
This is like your manuscript basically
It
It’s one of them
I’ll show you a few
But what I laughed at uh as I’m as I’m
looking at this is the first uh 60 some
odd pages
Uh I wrote the page
number down
I I forgot to uh I forgot
to put in a page number so I had to
handw write all the pages
Oh,
this this has our notes and um
and discussion, you know, notes from our
discussions as as we were going over the
manuscript
at some point
I don’t know
when
So, that was kind of fun to find
Um
and uh then I’m sure you have this I
found this uh original People magazine
story
Which I’m sure you have
kicked it all
off, right
I kicked it off and then um around that
same time there was a National Enquire
story
That’s true
We were just speaking about this
You start the final chapter of the book
with the headline
Well, yes
I love that you have this in your like
box of stuff because that’s so awesome
So, here’s the original story, ET Star
and Cocaine
and and it just it’s really
uh something to to think back that you
know one of the reasons that that
I I wrote a story on Drew in the first
place if I’m remembering correctly
and uh was to ward off the tabloids
to give her a chance to tell her story
on her terms uh rather than
the ambush you know jump out of the
bushes style of the tabloids
So, you
know, I I don’t think that would happen
today
I was thinking the same thing
I would
love to think that we’ve come to a place
where they’re not going to do that to a
13-year-old girl
Like, that is not
going to happen anymore because it’s
just, you know, it’s horrible that it
happened without her,
you know, consent
But then I love that
she turned it around and said, “Okay,
let me tell the story
” But also,
yeah, as I remember, she had very smart
people around her um who were trying to
control it
I really don’t know much
about what the decision making behind
that other than they wanted to control
the story
Allow her to tell it on her terms
Drew has made it sound like she was
intent on doing that, like that she made
that decision
And that her people were kind of
like, “Oh boy, what are you going to
want to do
” And she said, “I want to
tell the story myself
” and they said,
“Yeah, we thought you were going to say
that
“
Well, yes
And and I remember meeting
Drew before we did the story
What do you remember about that
So, just going to meet her and have a
and talking to her where she was
deciding whether she felt comfortable uh
talking to me
I guess she did because
we ended up talking and um but she for
somebody who was so young,
what she was like 15 or 16 uh at the
time, she uh she was very much the boss
in control, you know, and making a lot
of her own decisions
That was something
that
uh impressed me about her and that I
remember is is and she said very much
the same thing herself that she she
was kind of an old soul wrapped in a
kid’s body and that that was a big
you know that that was something I I
took away
uh from that first meeting and
subsequent conversations with her was
that she Um,
she had a lot of wisdom packed inside
her
She had a tremendous heart
There
was for for all the pain and and hurt
she’d endured and the loneliness she’d
felt, she had the potential for great
giving and great amounts of love and a
lot of smarts
And I I I never had any
doubt that she was going to um someday
make up for what she lacked
It didn’t guarantee an easy road
And
and I doubt she said would say that
she’s had an easy road,
but I think she’s more than made up for
what she lacked
That’s awesome
I love I love knowing
that even in this time because, you
know, she is really It’s dark at times
It’s very she’s very depressed at times
in this book
But I love knowing that
that core of who she is and who we know
her to be was there even then cuz it it
is really hard to be like, “Wow, this is
the Drew that we know
You know, she’s
she’s having such a hard time here
She
feels so bad about herself
” But I love
knowing what you said about her her
heart was there
Her wisdom was there
Like she was still who she is,
which is amazing and just really lovely
to hear
I mean, I haven’t seen her in person for
decades now
Um, I do see her
occasionally on television
But, but I have no doubt, you know, I
can tell that she uh, you know, she grew
up and into the person that she
wanted to be, that she knew was
available to her if she worked hard
And
I think she’s like like many of us, she
she, you know, got there by trial and
error and and fearlessness
to um to continue to move forward and
learn from her mistakes
Oh, absolutely
And I mean, she always talks about
making those mistakes in front of
people,
which is what’s so unique about her is
that she’s been famous for almost her
entire life
And you know, so like this
was just one thing that she did in
public, you know, so there’s like all
this interesting stumbling and and
humbling and you know, and she’s she
really Yeah
It’s it’s amazing her
resilience
We’re always talking about
her resilience
And the thing that uh my wife
reminded me of and and I didn’t really
need reminding of, but it’s worth
mentioning is she was always
wickedly funny
You know, I I caught her when she
was a teenager and in her early 20s, and
she always had a great sense of humor
Uh she wasn’t just self-deprecating, and
she was very funny when she’d make fun
of herself, but she had a great eye for
observation and spotting the funny
around us or around her and uh and
sharing that
So I, you know, that sense
of humor, I’m sure, got her through a
lot
Oh, yeah
I think that’s what she says
all the time, like we always need a
little bit of humor with the darkness
Absolutely
Todd, do you want to kind of explain to
us sort of what your process was with
her
you know, you showed that notebook
So, you would write and sit down with
her or how much of you know, cuz we have
in the book what is very clearly Todd’s
voice and then we have what is Drew’s
voice, but how much were you involved in
the Drew’s voice segments
Uh, they came out of our conversations
or, you know, conversations
just asking her to run through the
chronology and the details of what
happened to her, what she’d gone
through
So some of that was um
very you know almost literal translation
from the from the conversations others
was you know a minor massage of what she
what was in the transcript but
she I mean she ultimately had 100%
you know say over the book uh you know
the process was that we we’d do
interviews most of the interviews I I
think She’d remember this, too
We we uh
we used to go out uh to a restaurant, a
hamburger place, and sit and and have a
big basket of French fries and talk for
a few hours
Do you remember where
Yes, I I do
It was a a chain, I don’t
know if it exists anymore, called the
Islands
Oh, yeah
And so we’d go and order a big basket of
fries and some diet cokes and uh and
talk for a few hours
Usually after school
So you’d be there with your tape tape
recorder just on the table
I would some somewhere those tapes
exist
I mean that would be some a dream for us
to somehow have any
I’ll call you up when I when I find
them
If I ever do, I’ll call you up
Yeah, we would love like even just the
tiniest like peak of that
That’s
incredible
Like I mean if you had to
guess how many hours of recording like
if you had to guess could could you have
any clue
Yeah, probably 20
20 hours of of tape
Um and I probably
have some tapes of whatever old magazine
interviews were done with her
Um
because you recorded all of that
I
guess that’s part of the job, right
And I and I saved them for some
reason
I have stuff here that might be
interesting to share that I was going
through related to that
So, I I
found some transcript
from one of our interviews
Oh, cool
Did you have to transcribe it yourself
Did you like have somebody that could
transcribe it for you
That’s a lot of
work
I transcribed it myself at the time
Uh I couldn’t afford to have
somebody transcribe it
I I will admit
and um
and you know for safety’s sake it was
it’s so sens the material is so sens as
it is anytime you’re dealing with
somebody’s life and their secrets
Absolutely
Which is there’s almost I almost going
through this material there’s almost a
sense of betrayal uh even though I know
that some of this is in the book
and and I was just reading I was looking
for something funny um to actually share
because
we love something funny was very funny
and um but here I I’m you know I just
you saw me I’m randomly flipping through
this and um
and
I I I said what was the situation the
last time you saw your dad
Do you
remember that
And she says vividly very well
We were
at our friend’s house in LA
And then
for some reason I interrupt her and I
say, “Aren’t these fries great
“
And she says, “Oh, they’re the best
They’re so good
” And then she starts
talking about her dad
So
yeah, we love that kind of We are all
into those little details
We love
hearing stuff like that
I I had no idea what was in this box
Um
I love that it was like a time capsule
until about an hour ago
And um
so there’s this envelope here, Drew B,
it says on it
And
and I remember it
I remember her giving
this to me when we were working uh on
it
And this is full of uh letters that
I guess uh her
the people who were in rehab, the kids
who were in rehab
gave her sent to her
and I haven’t looked at them probably
since she went through them and read
them and gave them to me
We were
probably looking for something to put in
the book, but I’m not going to open them
and read them
Yeah, that’s very private, which
we’d all like to do because they belong
to her and if she ever wanted them
I
have no idea what they say,
but it’s kind of interesting to see
them
That’s really interesting
Will want this someday
Oh my gosh,
that’s incredible
Here is the uh first galley
Um and it has This is how you got it
back in the day
Now it’s all books are
all electronic, but this was sent
You
can see it’s oversized
And this this particular galley, it’s
really interesting
Again, I haven’t
looked at this for 35 36 years
Um, so the process is interesting to me,
but knowing what we know about the book
now in retrospect
So there’s this
galley, it’s nicely printed, and then
you come to uh a certain part
And
there’s
an addition
that is pasted in that is uh just
typewritten
It was obviously uh the
extra chapters or addendum that was
added to because it was like basically
done
It was finished and then
relapse
So, um
that’s neat that it’s bound that way
really cool
That is really neat
Um I mean there’s no secrets
there, you know, it’s all in the book
Interesting to look at the process and
it’s totally
to think about,
you know, uh how many people
were uh helping her at the time
I I think I I I remember a few, you
know, a lot of adults around her
Her
her I I don’t remember where her mother
was, but when she did relapse, you know,
there was her
counselor Lori, there was Betty, there
was David Crosby and his wife Jan, there
were there was the editor Jane, there
were her publicist, her manager, all
these people around her
Uh I I think helping her
I was not
around her um when all that happened
They brought me in later as I recall to
chat with her once once it was
determined that she wanted to continue
to go through with the book and and add
the extra material
Rather than scrap the effort
I can’t believe that was a
consideration
But yes, but once again
and and I remember being um reunited
with her to do the work, that last bit
of work
And um can’t remember where we
met, but I do remember her being very
tentative and nervous
that she had done something wrong or
disappointed me
Uh,
and
we very quickly got past that and uh,
you know, told the story and ate our
French fries and had some laughs and and
I remember um,
you know, feeling very good about her
Uh, I somewhere I saw a note but that I
made to myself that I had the sense that
um, she was going to be okay
My note
said, “I I I think Drew is going to be
okay and survive this and grow up and
grow into herself
” Something like that
I wrote
Uh so I feel I feel good that I was
right
Thank goodness
That’s amazing
You actually told a
probably around the same time story that
has I mean I just it stuck with me as a
teenager when it was on the e celebrity
profile where uh you were out to at a
restaurant with her and that she showed
you on her wrist where she had like cut
herself and she said but I’m okay now
and you said that was like a very Drew
way you knew that she was going to be
okay
So it’s like probably exactly what
the notes you were just reading
Good for me
Little bit of memory still left
The the thing, you know, as again
I I said earlier, the thing I remember
most about Drew is is such a big heart
Um, such a great sense of humor, a ton
of inner strength and determination
to um,
you know, to find herself
I I think
there were, you know, I I at the time
had one child
I was married
I’m still
married
Uh I have three children
I
think I had one at the time we wrote
that book and another on the way
And um
and I remember always thinking about how
different our lives were
Uh she came to
our house a few times
and um
I I watched her play with my daughter
who was then about three years old
Um,
and
I saw just the tremendous capacity for
affection that that Drew had
And it
just um
it balanced, you know, it it it was in
counterpoint to the the darkness I I she
articulated and I often sensed being
with her the loneliness, the darkness,
the struggle she had at home
Um, and and it was always I I hadn’t
been exposed to that in such depth until
I I’d been with her
I’d been exposed
to, you know, pretty horrible things as
a journalist
But, um,
right,
nothing like that
And and I always
wondered, you know, as as I watched her
from afar grow up, uh, you know, if if
the difficulty she must have had to
overcome as a young adult and then as an
adult around holidays and, you know,
those family times
and and I thought it was really
interesting
but not surprising how she did overcome
it
She built her own family
She built
her own company
She ended up, you know,
uh, test driving a few husbands and
y
had some children and, uh, and I’m sure
she’s a fantastic mom who, uh, you know,
I I know nothing about her, but I as as
a mother, but I I would imagine she, you
know, is very attuned
into uh,
being a mom and and what kids need
I’d love to know how strict she is
Well, it’s funny that you say that
We
were just talking about how in the book,
and we want to talk to you about Jade,
but in the book, she talks about Jade
and they’re not, it’s not a
motheraughter
They’re friends, you
know, they’re going to be best friends
And Drew has very, very clearly said
that with her daughters, she says, “I’m
not your friend
I’m your mom
” So, it’s
very easy to look and say, “This is
where that came from
” and that’s why
she’s not going to be that way
She constantly talks about her like
utter lack of boundaries when she was a
child and how she’s like learned even
what boundaries are
She’s like had to
learn what that meant to set a boundary
Like she just didn’t her mom set none
seemingly
Um
Right
I I can’t speak to what
their life was like, you know,
when I wasn’t around or if we didn’t
talk about it, but, you know, I I think
you probably,
you know, know more than I do
We’ve we’ve gotten into it a lot
Um,
actually, one specific thing that
relates to the book and Jade is we
notice that Jade is quoted a lot
throughout
Um, but did she have much
say in what was included in the book
otherwise
I don’t recall specifically
I’m going to say that she did as Drew’s,
you know, mom and the adults in, right,
in her relationship
I’m sure she read
the book
I I’d say 100% she read the
book and had to give her approval
Yeah,
makes sense
So,
she was never around um
for the recording
Well, she wasn’t
around for the interviews and she wasn’t
around dictating what should be written
That was really, you know, uh, based on
the conversations I had with Drew and as
I recall, Drew was the
one who had the final say
I’m sure had
input
and and I’m sure there was a manager who
read it and
or
you know I don’t know what what other
what others read and and what say others
had in the matter but I’m sure that
there was
yeah there’s some times in the book
where you’re like wow I can’t believe
they like let that be said about Jade
and then there’s other times where
you’re like oh it feels like Jade is
like sort of putting her slant on things
in this part
So yeah, we’re just
interested like how much input did she
actually have
And I’m assuming you sat
down with her once or twice and got her
little nuggets of information
I I I’m sure I did
I don’t I I do
remember Jade being around and I do
remember it being mostly pleasant, you
know, never on it could be, but there
was a lot of
stress, you know, between Drew and Jade
and times
and uh you know, that could be typical
motheraughter stuff, you know, Drew not
doing her homework cuz
you know, she’d done something or it
could be something more serious,
right
It ran the gamut
Yeah, I bet
Um, we were also curious about, you
know, if you recall like things that
were maybe omitted from the story, some
of them seemingly maybe small, like you
know, some TV movies she did that are
just skipped completely or, you know, we
both recently realized, oh, that whole
thing with Corey Felman like never even
get to mention her little relationship
with him
Um, but we were wondering, are
there reasons for these things or how
does that happen
No, there there’s no there’s not a
reason
Um,
it just wasn’t part of the narrative,
maybe
Or
Yeah, I I can’t answer that question
It’s it’s funny you mentioned that as as
you’re mentioning it
I do remember
Drew going out somewhere with Corey
Feldman
I remember being at the house
and um
there was a dozen or two dozen roses in
Drew’s
room that Corey had sent
Oh my goodness
And Drew was getting dressed to go out
Was it might have been some awards
thing
It might have been Academy Awards and
the timeline fits
They went together in
1989
So it could have been that
I I
don’t know what I would have been doing
there other than an interview with her
or running maybe it was running over um
some of the uh one of the drafts and
wow direction but I do remember her um
going out with Corey
It’s funny
but I don’t I can’t tell you why it’s
admitted or something else
You don’t feel like there were
things that like legal some legal
department said, “No, cut that out or we
can’t include this person’s name
” Or I
mean, I’m sure there’s all kinds of
weird nitty-gritty like that when you do
a book like this
You know, it’s interesting
I uh
that you bring that up
I think I came
across the legal read
Oh,
the I came across this these uh these
notes that I had, but they’re the
original chapter outlines
It says
chapter 1, chapter 2, chapter 3
Little
notes I made to myself
On uh how the book would be organized
I
I’m so much more fascinated by that than
uh
the process
The process and and that we
actually did this and and that it was
the first one that I did
That’s cool
We We didn’t realize it was the first
I
love that
I love knowing that
It makes
it like even more special
that that’s like, okay, it’s Drew
Barrymore with Todd Gold
Like that’s a big deal
There must have
been a big deal for you
Um, it was
And it was a big deal when
it made the best seller list
And
it’s it’s a big deal that um people like
it and and find meaning in it
When it
came out, it it received all sorts of um
mixed reviews
Of course,
many people finding it or criticizing as
as exploitative
of
a teenager
Typical Hollywood
exploitation
Where where are the adults
in the room
Shame on the editors and
everyone else
and I’m sure I re received my share of
criticism for that and I’ve blocked it
out
I
that’s good
Some of that has merit and I I don’t and
and you know some doesn’t
You know, it
depends
I I just think that over time
it’s found an audience
People really
appreciate it
It’s touched a lot of
people
I once checked into a hotel
maybe 10 or 15 years ago and and a guy
checking me in asked if I was the Todd
Gold who um had worked on this book and
he said how important it was uh for
various reasons when he was read it
And you know, I just and there’s
probably a lot of people out there who
who were touched by it and as as
evidenced by the two of you and um that
New York Times story, you know, continue
resonate in in some way
You know, I I
I was I’ve never sought Drew out to see
what she thinks about the book all these
years later
If she doesn’t like it, if
she’s embarrassed by it, if she wishes
she’d never done it
Um,
I don’t think so
No, I I don’t know how
much she’s really spoken very
specifically to it in more recent years,
but
she’s just kind of like
she doesn’t regret anything
You know,
this is part of her story
This I mean,
it’s a big part, but
and she calls herself an open book
still
So, I think
I think it’s right in line with who she
is that she did this
and also knowing how it did help so many
people
I think, you know, after the
fact, after it came out kind of more in
those years, she spoke about that a lot
Like, I’m so glad that, you know, I got
outed by the National Enquirer
That
sucked, but I got to turn it around and
then help people who were going through
similar things
Well, I think, yeah, I I think in that
respect, and I was going to say that it
it it reflects who Drew is, and you
know, or who she was going to become,
but who she was at the time, too
She
was very interested in helping other
people
um she
I I think had had many, you know, deep
connections with some of the other teams
in the program with her and and I
believe that’s probably because she was
as open then as she is now
Uh and and willing to share
And I think that taught her that
too
like she talks about how grueling,
you know, in the book how grueling those
sessions were in therapy and how that
has made her and actually I’ve been to
her live show and there’s something
about the way she runs that room when
the cameras aren’t on that almost feels
like a like a group like therapy group
circle
It’s Yeah, that she’s she’s made
that comparison like that’s was like the
training ground for the talk show
She
seems to have liberated herself from uh
many of the, you know, demons of her
past by being completely honest,
you know, letting those traumas fester
in secret
She she’s, you know, she’s is
as free she seems as free as as you’d
expect
That doesn’t mean she doesn’t
have her deep dark moments, but
right
she seems to be an example of somebody,
you know, who has
acknowledged and embraced the past in in
in a very therapeutic and positive way
I just came across this letters report
from uh People magazine that followed
the first story that that was in People
magazine and uh and I’m just reading it
again for the first time
This was dated
January 20th, 1989
So, it’s 36 years
ago
And it says, um,
“The young teens firsterson story of her
alcoholism and drug addiction prompted a
higher than average response from our
readership
Nearly 90% of respondents
applaud the young actress’s courageous
battle against those addictions and wish
her continued success with her recovery,
including 13 readers who are themselves
recovering from either drug or alcohol
misuse
In addition, it appears that Drew’s
revelations have affected a few of our
readers lives
An anonymous reader
writes, “After reading the story, my
14-year-old sister came forward to let
the family know that she too had a
problem with drinking
” Like many
others, I’m sure we always had the
attitude of it would never happen in our
family by sharing her story
Drew
allowed us to catch the problem before
it got completely out of hand
So,
that’s nice
It’s amazing
So, People magazine like
sent you that as sort of a here’s the
followup
Yes, that was the followup
after that initial story
That’s really cool
We were kind of
wondering in my research when we were
doing the chapters, I I came across that
you had done like a sort of similar
story for People magazine for David
Crosby
Was that how you got connected
to Drew
Because he like said, “I like
Todd
Work with him
“
It it may have been
I don’t I don’t
remember
That David Crosby story was
very memorable
David had uh just gotten
out of jail
and overcome was in the process of
overcoming a bad addiction
He um
I remember being in a in a this little
small rented house uh where he lived and
uh he played me a song on the piano uh
called Oh Yes, I Can
Oh yeah, I know that
Which is very beautiful
which became
the title song on his second solo album
Oh yes I Can
Very profound, powerful
moment
I like David a lot
It was a
strong and lasting connection between
us
We’d see each other
periodically over the years
Um
I’m sure that’s not a coincidence then
I’m as somebody who was like a good,
you know, influence in her life at that
time, I bet he put in your name
is like
put in a good word for you
Maybe if he did, I’m I’m grateful,
appreciative
Um,
yeah
But yeah, I remember David being a
presence in in Drew’s life
David and
his wife Jan
And it’s funny when you look back to
see, you know, the people who pop up in
your life, you know, as as helpers or
guides
And, you know, they aren’t
always there, but, you know, their
memory is or their influence remains
And uh you know, David’s certainly one
of those people
That’s really cool
That’s really cool
Do you want to share the story of uh the
really lovely thing that you did for
Drew recently
That probably all of our
listeners know it happened when she got
reunited with her childhood stuffed
animals, but they probably don’t know
that you are the reason for that
So, um that’s that’s a cute story
uh and I wish uh my daughter was here to
tell tell that story
So my oldest
daughter who I had mentioned earlier,
she was three years old uh when I was
working with Drew
And um and I have vivid memories,
as I said, of Drew coming over and
playing with her and uh I think we went
out to dinner a couple times and uh and
you know, it was interesting watching
Drew’s
But my daughter has vivid
memories of Drew
Being around
Anyway, so she somehow
heard, and you may know more about this
than I do, um, she heard that Drew said
she didn’t have really many artifacts
or, you know, things from her childhood
And, um,
and my daughter, that daughter now is, I
think she’s 37 or 38 years old
She’s a
therapist
Uh she works primarily with
women and girls who have experienced
trauma or eating disorders or very very
uh tough
tough young woman
Um
amazing
but she remember she heard about this
and she remembered that um she had a
couple stuffed animals that were Drews
um that were left uh from a large
collection that Drew gave me
So shortly
after that
Corey Feldman date
as a marker in time, I some I was at
Drew’s house
and she I think she was cleaning out her
bedroom, throwing things out
I I don’t
know why, but um
she offered me her stuffed animals to
take to my daughter
And uh she put them all in a big
green hefty garbage bag
There there
were probably, you know, a dozen and a
half animals
Were stuffed creatures
And um we had
two left all these many years later
Uh
I I don’t know what what else happened
My my daughter claims she gave some to
Tom Green at one point
Really gift to Drew
I don’t know
Oh,
I don’t know what the mechanics around
that are
So, she might have gotten some back at
some point
Fascinating
I I don’t know
But anyway, so Drew
didn’t have anything
My daughter found
it
We had a big pink bear and we had a
little ET doll uh that had been sitting
on the top of a closet in the bedroom
that used to belong to my daughter
And
they’d been up there for
25 at least 25 years
And so I I said to her, “Well, let’s
give Drew these um these dolls
Let’s
get them to her
” And so I I am friendly
with Valerie Burtonelli
Who is on a regular on Drew’s show
And I mentioned this to Valerie and she
said, “Oh, I’ll happily give these to
Drew
I’m sure she’ll love it
” And I I was
nervous that, you know, it was kind of
intrusive or that, you know, she
wouldn’t love it
Uh that she’d given
them away and they were gone
No, not true
But um anyway, so Valerie took the bear
and the ET doll and along with a brief
note from me saying,
“Oh,
hello
” and a longer note from my
daughter
Uh and gave them to Drew
And uh and I
remember seeing a little video of that
online
I I can’t recall exactly what
happened, but I think I think it was uh
it was a hit
And she could tell she was
really touched
And what’s interesting
is the video of her saying she doesn’t
have much from her childhood was related
to our birthday surprise for her where
we used our collection to represent 50
years of her life for her 50th birthday
for
they did that they did that interview
with her saying she didn’t have the
items from her childhood backstage
before she came out and saw everything
So it’s very full circle
That’s great
So the reason that happened was because
we did this
What you What were you
going to ask
I was gonna ask
what did you what artifacts did you
provide for her
Well, you know, she didn’t get to spend
a lot of time looking at it and much
like how you were like we’d love to give
these items back to her
That’s kind of
like we’re always an open door for that
If she ever said, “Hey, I want these
things
But, um, we have like
quite a few things, you know
I don’t
know if you recall when Jade sold a lot
of Drew’s belongings
and the
late 90s she she did a huge auction and
sold a bunch of items, you know, mixed
emotions about that, but I was able to
get my hands on just two little pieces
Um, one was like a ballet outfit,
leotard and tights from and ballet
slippers when she was three as Jade’s
writing in it, Drew
And then like a pen
from the the Just Say No campaign
And yeah, like just you know, things
we’ve collected here and there
Like I
have we have a chair back from the set
of Fire Starter and um like a letter and
a picture that Jaden Drew sent to a
publicist once
Just um you know, things
that she definitely doesn’t have
And we
kind of recently came to the thought
that like, wow, her daughters might want
these one day, you know, and we’re happy
to hand them over
We’re just out here
trying to preserve her legacy because
she’s never saved anything
And thank God that you were able to
reunite her with something so touching
I Yeah, I think I from what I recall of
the video, she really seemed to like it
and I hope, you know, I think her kids
will like it even more
Stuffed
those stuffed animals
They were uh you
know, I think one was a big pink dancing
bear and the other, as I said, was an ET
doll
And
you know, I’m sure I’m sure they went
over well, but it was fun
It was fun
giving it back
And we found the
photo evidence, you know, of her in
1987
There’s a picture of her in her
bedroom and all the stuffed animals
around and there’s that distinct bear
It’s like, “Oh my god
“
And Valerie seemed to enjoy seeing that
She responded to that and was like, “Oh
my gosh, yay
Two of the nicest people I I I
know
So
incredible
So, I guess the the last thing I think
I’ll ask, you’ve kind of talked about
watching Drew grow up, but I want to see
if you can summarize what it’s been like
for you to watch Drew evolve and grow
into this icon that she is
What is that
like for you like knowing where she was
when you wrote the book
Well, it’s it’s funny because I I I
think she was probably already an icon
She’s been an icon
several
incarnations
I mean, there’s
there’s Gertie and ET
That’s pretty
iconic
You know, and and and Kid and Fire
Starter
That’s pretty iconic
And and
you know, and and then when when I think
about who Drew is now or or presents
herself on TV and what everybody says,
I’m I’m just not surprised
I I think
that’s what you get
That’s where you
end up
If if you work on yourself and
you’re open and you decide
that your life’s work is going to be
about sharing
uh your gratitude and appreciation for
you know the this this miracle of life
with with people and you’re you approach
it with a fearlessness of uh
acknowledging your your ups and downs
and especially your downs
I mean,
yeah
And that’s what I think Drew
is so good at and what people react to
and why her show is is a success and and
why it seems like such a natural
progression from child actor to uh adult
actress to producer to talk show host
I
I feel like she uh
had something to say uh but was also
unlike so many people willing to listen
and really listen and react to what
people say
I I you know I I know I’ve
read that she’s been criticized for
sitting too close to people being too
too touchy feely but I I think that’s
part of the process when you are intent
on creating you know in front of TV
cameras in an audience a moment of of
intimacy and and trust
uh in getting somebody to have uh
uh genuine conversation
and to uh and to uh draw out real
admissions, not not stuff that you’re
going to hear on every talk show, but
stuff that, you know, actually uh allows
those watching and listening to have
their aha moments of recognition
And I
think because she’s such an open book,
she’s able to do that
She she gives
those moments of herself and it allows
people to feel comfortable enough to
share the same thing
So I’m not surprised
I mean that’s a
long way
But when you um you you know
people have two two options
you know,
you you remain damaged or you um or you
accept that, you know, all of life is is
full of light and dark and and and
change and and you embrace that and and
you see what what’s going to happen next
and you try to get better and better and
uh and and learn more and more
And I
think that’s really Drew’s gift right
now in this moment that she’s having is
is she’s decided to uh share all that
Yeah,
she’s finding value
I don’t think it’s
any surprise that she’s doing it too
with her kids growing up and and she
probably, you know, it it probably makes
for some good dinner conver table
conversation
I know what we’re like, has Olive picked
up little girl lost yet
and come in
like, “Tell me about this part, mom
“
She probably doesn’t have to, you know
Drew probably told her
She’s probably told her or she looks at
her and go, “That’s my mom
” And she’s
living her own life
I’m sure is encouraged
and and to have
her own, you know, uh, triumphs and
mistakes and and figure things out for
herself
The the advantage she’ll have is she’s
got a really insightful uh, strong mom
You know, something Drew probably didn’t
have
So, I’m not surprised
I I I think it’s
I think Drew’s, you know, where you’d
want her to be
uh and where more
importantly where she’d want to want to
be
Takes a lot of work, a lot of
courage and a lot of determination to
get to where she is
Uh and
you know, I I I feel a great deal of
affection even though I haven’t seen her
for
right
tremendously long time
I feel a great
deal of affection for her and and uh and
you know happiness for her
It’s it just
you know she she’s an inspiration uh you
know for real and
you know so that that that’s where I
take you know little girl lost in the
book was was an important stepping stone
in that path and uh you know uh so I I I
take a lot of pride in in the work we
did in the little placeholder that
occupies in her life
Damn girl, you are a writer
Yeah, that’s so perfectly said
That’s exactly how we we’re like this is
just one little part of her life, but
it’s so important to so many people and
it’s just it makes up who she is
Well, I think you too should be
commended for, you know, devoting so
much time to this book and really
investigating it
I I feel uh bad that I
I came upon you late in the game
and didn’t go through the first 30
chapters with
and
we’ll just have to go back and get our
lingering questions and see if you can
pull them out of your notes
Yeah, it’s
it’s it’s really such an honor to uh to
know that you’ve done this and and uh
taken the time to, you know, focus on
this this work and and expand on it in
in,
you know, the way tech I mean, when we
did this book, you know, computers were
new, desktops were new, the iPhone was
still 20 some odd years away from being
invented
The story would be really different
Yeah, the story would be really
different if there was any form of a
cell phone
or social media
Imagine social media in
that time
Her her story would have been
blown way before it was if there was
social media
So, it’s incredible
What I was going to say is is compliment
you on taking,
you know, this book that was done at a
certain point and really expanding the
story and being part of it
You know,
now this is part of that literature
It
it doesn’t just belong to me
It’s it’s
it’s by Ashley and Ann, too
We’ll take it
Is that like Can we write
it down here now
I I
That’s so kind of you to say
We’ll write the second edition
Little girl found
I I I I would love to know, you know, g
given the way we’ve just been talking
about Drew and what her trajectory was,
it would be fascinating to know what
happened to some of the others who were
in rehab with her
Did they
manage to come out as good
What were
their paths that they followed
Um,
absolutely
Again, Drew’s Drew’s path,
you know, there there weren’t a lot of
adults there to guide and shape her
She
had to build this her own structure, her
own family, and
you know, to get to where she is today
She’s really sort of a miracle when you
think about it
Well, she’s an inspiration
She’s
definitely an inspiration
and and you
know and part of that is just her
willingness to to share everything that
she’s been through and and drawn out in
others and and to show as I as I keep
saying you know life is full of ups and
downs it’s constantly changing we
experience the light and dark we slip up
we triumph and uh you know and we learn
mostly that we’re all pretty much the
same we’re all rowing in the same ocean
yeah we’re all human
We are all human
I think she would love that
Yeah, I think so, too
Um, okay, Todd,
this has been so great
Thank you so
much for taking this time to do this
with us
We so appreciate it
Um, I know
it’s a testament to Drew that it pulled
you out to do this with us in a way
Maybe it’s a testament to our
determination to get you to do this
But
I think that that’s evidence of your
affection for her is that maybe you
don’t do stuff like this, but I’m so
glad that you were willing to talk about
this and talk about her with us
And
it’s been lovely
Oh my gosh
Thank you very much
Certainly occupies
an important place in in my life, my
career, but more it’s it’s really a
thank you to both of you
That’s the
reason I did it
you know, for uh you
know, the the time and the effort and
the enthusiasm you bring to the book
And as I said, the way that you are
extending the story and keeping it alive
in in 2025, it’s it’s it’s fascinating
to me to see how a book that was written
in 1989,
published in 1990,
35 years later, is expanded upon, you
know, by by both of you
So, thank you
That’s really cool
Thank you so much
Like, what a way to close out this thing
we’ve been working on for a year and a
half
It’s just the ultimate
Thank you
so much
And if you ever need help with
that box, you know, you need an
archavist to take care of it for you
You know who to call
I know exactly who to call
It would be a dream for us to just see
it
I mean, absolutely
Thank you, Todd
We really appreciate
getting to meet you and chat with you
Thank you very much
Have a great one
[Music]
Okay
Still reeling from that
Still
pinching myself
Can’t believe it
happened
Thank you, Todd, for giving us
your time
I mean, it’s we kept laughing
because in Little Girl Lost, it says he
leads a distinctly unholy life
So,
we’re like, so cool that he opened his
treasure trove
Like,
we could go on and on
We are really
grateful to have had the opportunity to
be where we’re at that like that’s even
possible
Can you imagine as a 14 and
16year-old reading this book being like
one day we’ll get to ask him all these
questions about it and he he’ll show us
his his materials from working on it
Guys,
wild
What is life
Guys, we made a new friend in Todd Gold
Never would have known
Um, and I think it’d be really cool to
say here Drew’s acknowledgement to him
in the book
We’re just going to quote
it because it’s great
It’s um
she says, “Todd, thank you for giving me
a great ground to stand on and believing
in me
and
and he still does
He has such a fondness
I feel
like he says like affection like
we’ve read like a really lovely quote
that he like put up when when the whole
strike was going on
He
you guys heard it
there’s this
affection and he understands why he
seems to understand why we would be
interested in this wonderful person
Like he seems to get it
Again, thank
you so much Todd
Thanks for celebrating our girl with us
And congratulations little girl lost on
turning 35
Not that I had a choice, but
congratulations on you know what
Congratulations on having this relevance
that it was enough you know that’s why
he is
honored
grateful
because right cuz we’re like bringing up
maybe we’re digging up old work but also
we are excited about it
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Hello there and welcome to How Do You
Drew
This is a Drew Barrymore podcast
brought to you by the Drewseum.com
and sponsored by our friends at Positive
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And I’m Ashley
Doesn’t really work on audio, but I just
pretended to flash
It’s a greeting, you know
It’s a lovely
greeting
It’s a very sweet thing
Um,
all right
So yeah, we’re going to be
getting into the David Letterman
flashing from 1995
We’ve got some stuff
at the top before we get there, but this
is going to be a little bit of like a
fun little mini thing that we’re
jam-packing with all of this like
reference after reference to this
It’s
so fun
So, buckle up
Let’s do it
Okay, so um I guess we’ve got an oopsie
at the top
Yes, a little oopsy daisy
And I kind of
have to blame Drew, but also us
Okay,
so
we our last episode was about Little
Girl Lost, and we were talking about I
think it was in that episode
It could
have been one of the Patreon episodes,
you know, how Drew got emancipated from
her parents legally
And we were like,
“Yeah, it happened right after this book
came out
Cuz I knew it was right before her
birthday
But
we we kept like reiterating it like cuz
I was like, “Wait, when was it
“
And she always says she was 14 when it
happened
So, it was one of those
things, you know, just like just
happened to us and I’ll explain that
later where it sticks in me and I’m
like, I have to find out the truth
I
have to find out the truth
I have to
get the details
And I knew I had this
clipping from People magazine
So,
anyway, with a lot of research, I found
out it was actually February 1991,
right before she turned 16 is when she
was emancipated
So, that’s actually
quite a bit later
You know, like
there’s a big difference between 14 and
almost 16 in my mind
But I mean, I I guess also she
like says she got her own apartment at
14
Yeah
And that’s true
But I I totally imagine those things
coinciding because the way she tells the
story
She said she was emancipated at
14
But you know, we know our girl
and
and dates and ages
Um, but also I just
I recently on her show she said
something like I’m a Pisces and there
was like talking about how bad she was
with numbers and I never
she was trying to say The Wedding Singer
was filmed in 96 and came out in 97 so
it’s almost 30 years old and I’m like no
and so of course I had to comment and a
lot of people liked my comments cuz they
were probably like that doesn’t seem
right
Like
what did you what did you say
I wrote
actually it was filmed in 97 came out in
98
We got you Drew
We got you, Drew
We got timeline
We We
literally study you
That’s our job
Our unpaid job
Um
I have one other little followup little
Deja Drew
This is a really cool thing
that I wish we had included in our
Batman Forever episode
This is just
such a fun little nugget
Um, when I was doing research for this
episode, I came across it
The creator
of Batman, Bob Crane, would be on set
during filming of Batman Forever, and he
drew a photo for Drew of her
grandfather, John Barrymore
That’s so cool
How freaking I want to see that
How
cool is that
I love seeing caricatures of like her
family anyway
I mean, I’ve seen a few
of John
I feel like
Yeah, I don’t know if I mean, oh my god,
that’s
such a cool little nugget
We’re going to have Deja Drews
I feel
like this is like going to be our life
The research will never stop
The new
the new old will always come up
But I
will add this to our Drew details page
on the Drew
We have a page if you guys
don’t know
It’s just tidbits galore as
we love
It’s just little factoids about
Drew’s life
And I’ll put this in there
because it’s so fun
It’s been a while
since I’ve like gone through that page
It might almost be fun to like do an
episode of Drew Details
Oh, we’re just like and then this and
then did you know this and then how
about this
It’s like the most like knowit all
episode
Like I mean it’s
I don’t know
Every episode is a
know-it-all episode when I’m involved
with
But we also are like it’s a gift
to you that we know all this information
in our heads
Speaking of gifts,
tell me what she has proclaimed her love
for this week
I love love love
Okay, we have a lot thanks to the Drew
Barrymore Show being back
All right
Drew loves a clash and she
means like patterns
She loves pioneers
and she meant like people who are like
innovators in their field
She loves a debate
A hearty vegetable soup in the
morning
In the morning
Yeah, you know that
would be me
She loves a puree
An egg cracked over a salad
I’m not sure about that either
She loves a pole
A Jeremy Irons
And finally, Drew loves a mullet
No surprise
She said that her wig from uh Full
Throttle, the dirt bike one, was one of
her favorite wigs she’s ever worn
I mean, is there any is there
any other mullet like hairstyle of hers
that like in any iteration
I don’t think so
I don’t even think like SNL wigs there
was any like mullety thing
There is that one where she’s like in
the last time she hosted where she’s
like um a pool player
That could be a
little mullety
I’ll have to look
I’d have to look back at it
If it is,
we’ll put a picture in the episode
If
not,
okay, so let’s go into our mailbag
We
always like going in there
We sure do
You’ve got mail
All right
What’s inside the mailbag
this week
We got a really nice message
on Instagram, and this is in regards to
our incredible interview with Little
Girl Los co-author Todd Gold
If you
guys missed that, it was quite a big
deal for us and we think you’d really
enjoy listening to it
Yes, please do
If you’re if you’re
listening to this and you haven’t heard
that, please
So, this is from um Instagram
user Angela Maror and they said, “This
was fascinating
One of your best eps
yet
He’s clearly such an intelligent,
curious, and sensitive man
And I loved
him giving you to your flowers for all
the hard and heartfelt work you do, too
Oh,
that’s really sweet because that I mean,
it really like surprised us
I think it
surprised me
to to for him to say that for for it to
have been conveyed to him enough like
what we were doing, you know
Like I
just
I don’t know
like I’m sure you
explained what we did and that you know
I mean ish it’s not like he could have
listened to anything unless he’s a
secret Patreon member but yeah it still
is like pinch me crazy
Um I do want to
give Angela extra thanks
I think this
is the same Angela
Different last
names, but should be the same Angela
because the same day um a member on
Patreon upgraded to our Doozy of Drew
tier, our $5 tier
And so, thank you,
Angela
And there will be a goodie
package coming your way via snail mail
soon
If you guys don’t know, our higher
tier of Patreon members get goodie
packages of Drew clippings and such
So,
you get some little physical stuff
If
if you have a love for physical things
like we do
I love paper
All right
Any chance we get to use
that, I try to segue into it
And that
one was easy
Someone sent me a letter
Someone sent me a letter
The paper crumbling
A
some paper
an envelope in the mail
coming to you for signing up for a
higher tier of Patreon
And anyone else who wants to join, come
on over
I was gonna say, might as well just plug
it because we’re talking about Todd
Gold
We’re we didn’t even really say
what the heck we’re talking about
If
you didn’t listen to last episode, if
you are new to us, that I don’t know
I
it blows my mind to think of new people
just listening to an episode
Like
we just finished going through Little
Girl Lost chapter by chapter on Patreon
and then we did our last episode as a
wrap-up
So if you didn’t know that and
that excites you, here’s where you go
Yeah, you get 16 exclusive episodes over
there for a dollar a month
We got to
try because
we’re doing this for nothing
For our own enjoyment
Zero
dollars, lots of heart
So, we have another another corner
to go in
Let’s go over there
So sweet
In the kind comments corner
Yeah, this is I just I actually picked
this for you
Um this is a YouTube
comment that I noticed on the Letterman
flashing video
Okay, so they said Brisb
on YouTube said, “She’s months older
than me and she looks like such a
flapper in this interview
Some timeless
jewel from the 1920s
She was so very
beautiful and she still is, but we all
get older
What a piece of time
What a
moment to love
“
Pretty cool, huh
I love that
And I I can see it like
also like Drew’s her vibe totally had
like a lapper
lapper energy
I mean, also like short hair is
kind of like a little bit synonymous
Um I love that
You’re right
Thanks for
pulling that for me
I love that
Like
now I’m just like other than um
other than Fever Pitch, do we get to see
like Drew in like actual Flapper
Does like anything in Grey Gardens get
close
It’s like it’s the it’s like
it’s like 40s, right
It’s like the
earliest
Anyway, yay
So, let’s go back in time for the first
time in this episode before we go back
to 95
We’re going to go back a little
bit further
for this week in True History
September 24th, 1990
And I really only
picked this one because I’ve always
personally loved how she looks here
Drew attended the Pacific Heights
premiere
I don’t even know like why
that was relevant to her
Sometimes she
just went to events in the early 90s
I
think when she was kind of trying to get
her career back on track
She attended this with Baltzar Getty who
she was dating seemingly most of the
time back then and then also her mother
Jade was there
This was a rare updo for
her at this time
And she has this
really cute purple bandana tied around
And I totally remember trying to copy
this look in like the year 2001 with a
bandana with the hoop earrings
And I’m
sure I looked just as cute as she did
No, her face just looked beautiful that
day
It does look really beautiful
And like
thinking back to that 1920s thing, it’s
like you almost get like a a vision of
what she would look like with really
short hair and it’s 1990
So, you’re
right
Like, I didn’t think of like how
uncharacteristic at the time
Like, she
always had her long blonde hair down
Like 90 90 like almost like through her
cutting it off
I don’t know
Yeah, totally
Um, of course, I had to
note that she’s got her marble reds in
her hand on on this little red carpet
It’s not even a red carpet
It’s
probably just outside the event
Um, but
that was such a thing for her to do back
then
Just carry around her cigarettes
And it’s just crazy to think like how
fresh out of Little Girl Lost that this
was
Like the book had been out for
seven months and like Yeah
It’s
that also feels weird
She like completely had her life
turn it around
It’s just so cool
I think one of the coolest things about
us doing this like going back into the
Drew history like going back into the
vault and like pulling something out is
like we’re revisiting something we know
well
But then it’s suddenly we have this like
new perspective because of like
Yeah
like a different context
Like I’m like, “Wait a minute,
that timeline
For you to say
that like that just I’m like, “Whoa
“
I’m thinking of her mindset
I’m
thinking of like how recently quote
unquote sober she was
She looks beautiful
She looks
I know
Both of
Okay, so let’s get into what’s new with
Drew
Here we go with the news,
everybody
Uh, not much to report on, but we
do have a new cover
Kind of new
So, this is the October issue of Real
Simple magazine, which I think we kind
of like guessed this was coming because
she designed that room for them
And I think maybe we
we said some I think we said like, “Oh,
that magazine’s so her vibe
” If she
like hasn’t We said something about
maybe she said she loved the magazine
and I was like, “I’m not surprised
Um, unfortunately they didn’t do a
new photo shoot
They used an old photo
was taken by Landon McMahan and it was
taken for that weird andme supplement
brand that she did a little campaign
with in 2024,
right
But it’s also interesting because
does she just do shoots that will go
into any like route, you know, in I know
that like literally one of the
commercials has her wearing the same
silky shirt
Oh, yeah
There’s like pictures of her
posing with the supplement and with like
the woman from the company
So
she I mean it’s a beautiful picture of
her and because she so infrequently
changes her look these days
Like it just she basically looks the
same
We can use it
But you know I get mad
I
want something new
But also like we get another like do we
have this in print already
We didn’t even have this photo at
all
So,
if if we’re still appreciating and
loving paper like we do, the real simple
physical magazine will be fun to have if
we can find it
Magazines are hard to
get these days, you guys
You know what
Right before we started
filming, um, our friends over at
Blockbuster Wives, the amazing podcast,
Stacy texted me a picture and she said,
“Do you have this
Do you want this
“
And I was like, “Yes, I want it
Thank
you so much
” So, thanks, Stacy
Go
listen to Blacklist Wives
A, that’s so cool
I love you all, man
I mean, I think I’ve always been so
touched when somebody like saves a
physical like Drew related artifact for
me
It’s always been like
clippings or magazines, but people don’t
think to do that even if I mean they
don’t really understand collecting
Like
even if
true,
you know, I mean, I’ve had people though
like past like like um classmates who
I’ve like reached out and been like,
“Does anyone have like this newspaper
“
And then like someone helps me gets like
a newspaper in the last like several
years
And I’m like so touched,
especially if like it’s like very little
effort for them if they like have it
and they’re going to throw it away, you
know
Guys, we want all the paper
I love
paper
We love paper
I like paper
I want paper
It never gets old
So, um, yes
So yeah, you as you
mentioned, she did design a a room in
this real simple house in New York City
So that it’s really cute
Of course,
she’s using it’s all it’s got a bunch of
her beautiful by Drew stuff
I do really
like that pillow
Actually, there are
two like decorative pillows in this that
are really cute
Yeah, those are definitely your vibe
This room is kind of a mashup of our
vibes actually
So, good job
Yeah, it kind of is
There’s like a boho
kind of rug and then some like sort of
art deco looking pillows
Um the only thing I pulled from
the article, which we will link to it if
you guys want to check it out
I thought
this was a really cool and inspiring
quote
She said, “If I imagine something
and I can’t find it, I want to make it
That really lights my fire
” And then
once the fire starts, it’s hard to
extinguish
That’s so true
That’s supposed to be Fire Starter by
Prodigy, in case you couldn’t tell
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topic
You know what’s funny
This
has been on our list for a long time,
but I think we sort of felt like once we
had done Playboy that like this was
maybe overkill, but it’s just like out
in the world right now and Drew is
bringing it up again so much that it’s
like
guys is calling to us
And it’s telling us to lift up
our shirt on David Letterman’s desk
So, let’s go back to 1995
Let’s like
get us in
H can we please
Like we are go we are literally
traveling there guys right now
Give anything
Although I was in eighth grade which was
not a great time
Let’s pretend we’re going back there
like at you know like in our 20s
you know like or something where we’re
like smart enough but we’re like also
like not so tired you know
Oh the 90s
So 1995, Drew is 20 years
old
So she’s very much in her what she
literally has called exhibitionist, wild
child, little wood nymph, and also
taking off her clothes
Such good descriptions
And you mentioned that we’ done an
episode on this
Um she had posed for
the Playboy January issue
Um, and also
in February, Drew had stripped during a
performance art piece at a nightclub
called the Blue Angel, which we’ll get
into a little bit more
So, this is like
kind of putting you in that place
Yeah, she’s very much known for uh
taking it off
So, a quote from a little
bit later that year, she said, “I’m so
comfortable in my skin
” If you ever are
lucky enough to get to that place in
your life, and I had to go through tons
and tons of to get there, you have
to take advantage of it
It’s not about
exhibitionism, that’s where it goes
wrong when it becomes about wanting to
show yourself instead of just being able
to, which I love because like, you know,
in Little Girl Lash, it’s not mentioned
a lot, but she definitely deals with
feeling fat or overweight
And I remember we even kind of theorized
that this could come a little bit from
her mom who was always described as
frail
She’s extremely teeny tiny
She
only had like health food in the house
I think there’s something there that
she’s never really talked about
I’m sure that there was some kind of
food obsession or at least like body
obsession within the house with Jade
There had to
it just fits
This is also speaking to like she’s
saying what she like went through
Like she feels free
She feels good in
her body
It’s only five years after she released
Little Girl L
So, we’re also like
putting that in perspective, too
Um, and also like kind of put another
thing in perspective regarding this
topic is that Drew had been crushing on
Letterman for most of her life, she
said
And her first appearance on this
show was February 2nd of 1995 while she
was promoting Boys on the Side
So,
literally just a couple months before
So, like if you guys haven’t seen that
one, it’s not available online,
unfortunately
But there’s definitely a
chemistry between them
There’s
definitely a flirtation right off the
bat
It was very like it didn’t feel
gross to me ever, even though he’s so
old and she’s only 20
Like, they had a
like back and forth that was really fun
to watch
I think that David Letterman
tended to keep his distance while saying
whatever like, “Wow, he never even
really like said inappropriate things
So, that first appearance, like
the kind of tone is set, he invites her
to come back anytime
And later on,
she’s like, “I really appreciate you
actually did that
Like, you did let me
come back
“
Um, so she’s coming back
So you you
guys here’s that’s setting the scene
You kind of understand what’s going on
So now it is April 12th, 1995
This is
when history is about to be made
And it’s Dave’s birthday
So there’s
like a festive vibe in the show
And Drew was a guest for really no
specific reason
Um in Wildflower she
says that she was on to promote a film,
but she’s not at this time
She was the
time before and the time after, but they
don’t talk about a movie while she’s
there
Um, and she brings him
daisies in a glass bottle, which was
just
so cute
with like some like jute or like some
like Yeah
tied around the glass bottle
It’s so cute
Straight out of Real Simple magazine
Why didn’t she put that in that
room that she designed
Um, should we talk about her look a
little bit
cuz we love her so much at
this time
But also like this is an
iconic moment
So it’s also fun to like
point out some of the little details cuz
why are there so many fun details
Because it’s Drew and because we love
her
Because it’s true and it’s 95,
right
So she was wearing
black seemingly corduroy pants
They’re
definitely like dark
They’re either
like corduroy or velvety maybe
Um and
they have a weird patch that’s on like
the crotch and butt area
And we see it
because of this moment
Um, and so many
people, I don’t know if you’ve like read
recent comments in the videos that have
been posted, people are so weirded out
by it
What is that
Does she have a pad
on outside of her pants
Like,
oh my god, I know it is very weird
looking, but like
I don’t know
It just fits what her vibe
was at that time
She probably had a rip
and she just had somebody sew something
over it
It feels so her and I feel like anyone
who would have seen it at the time would
have been like, “Oh my god, she’s so
cool
” you know, like
I don’t know
So, anyway, she has this
patch, this visible like a couple times,
like her putting her legs up, you see
it, and when she’s on the desk, you see
it
Um, she’s wearing black heeled
boots, which she loves black heeled
boots
That’s such a vibe
Um, and then
she’s got like the most iconic thing I
feel like for a couple reasons
She’s
wearing this iconic uh long sleeved blue
tea that says, “I’m bananas over you
“
with the cartoon banana
And I I’ve
never like looked super closely at it,
but you noted that it’s got blush and
eyelashes
Like it is hilarious
It’s a girl banana
Um and I know so I made a note merch
idea because like I’ve always wanted
this shirt
What do you guys think
I already I
actually reached out to my cousin Roxy
Prima who is the designer of our logo
and I was like I am totally just
floating an idea
This is early stages
is would you be able to recreate this
like your own version like
Yeah
different enough we couldn’t get sued
even though who freaking knows where
this shirt came from
It’s probably
I don’t want to do like a reverse Google
and
Oh, I already tried
Of course you have
I didn’t find anything
So, the
odds of someone suing us over it are
pretty slim, but we’ll we’ll make sure
If there’s any interest out there, like,
let us know
Like, I want it
I do, too
Imagine how cute it would be
if we had matching
Oh my god, that would be so cute
It also makes me think of the Banana
Moores shirt that she had that was
apparently like a oneoff that we
inquired about and we’re like, “But it’s
got a little cartoon banana on that one,
too
“
Yeah, it’s so cute
Anyway, we
love this shirt
It It’s just adorable
It’s so It’s so 95 Drew
Like I know
that it’s like we are going to forever
associate it because it is part of this
historical moment, but also like
totally
it’s so her like I’m also Anyway, okay,
one more I guess one more little a
couple little details
Um she’s got her
usual like 1995 jewelry
So does she
have like her butterfly ring or
something on
And her like uh daisy necklace and
her hemp necklace that we had versions
of at one point
That’s right
The safety pin on the
bracelet
All of that
And her blonde pixie hair
It’s got a daisy in it
If you can’t picture it yet, I hope
you’re on our website looking at the
pictures right now on the Drewm
All right
So that’s what she’s looking
like and we all love it
So Drew and
Dave, they very briefly discuss her
recent 20th birthday, but immediately
after they pivot into the story of what
happened at this nude performance art
place, The Blue Angel
So Drew has a friend named John Rosen,
who I’m 90% sure is the guy who did
those little comics, the misfits that
she writes the book forward for
Has to be, right
Has to be
Um, and he had this act where
he would play like a very unfunny
comedian
And then this night, Drew
joined him on stage as a character
called Lolita because of course we know
she has a weird like problematic
obsession with the Lolita
Y
and she started stripping her clothes
off
in Wildflower
This is part of Drew
talking about this moment
Um, we have a
little bit more later, but the nice
thing is there’s a chapter about it and
we get to kind of extract from that a
little bit
We also, speaking of
Patreon, we’re going to be doing
Wildflower chapter by chapter
We’ll be talking about this all
over again
Anyway, so this chapter from
Wildflower
So, Drew’s like kind of saying
like no one had been there at the Blue
Angel to like document what actually
happened
Like, you know, this is pre
cell phones, all that stuff
But it had
gotten out in the news and word had
reached the Letterman producer
So when
she was going to go on, they did a
pre-in asked about it
So in the book
she says, “His Booker said, “Is it true
that you and your friend did a show
downtown
I described Dick Haney, that’s
John Rosen’s character, and my character
Lolita and how silly and quick and crazy
it was
” So he said, “If it was okay,
could I talk about it on the show with
David
” “Sure,” I said
Again, I was in
a very free state and I’d always loved
David Letterman since the day he went on
the air
I loved people who were smart
and funny
It would become my favorite
combination of someone’s personality
So, of course, I would discuss it with
Mr
I love that so much
And also, that is
so true about her
Smart and funny
She’s always said that
Always intellect and humor
So, Drew is telling this story of
the Blue Angel on the episode 95 and she
stops herself short
like she’s just
like stops and says, “Would you like me
to do a dance for you
Hi, Paul
[Laughter]
Oh, man
Paul, give me some blues
This
is so like classic
So, it’s it started, you guys
The runaway train as she’s explained it
later
So, she just is so fun
This is so like
characteristic
It’s not
uncharacteristic
It’s characteristic of
Drew, you know
She’s a fun
free loving gal
She jumps on Dave’s
desk and starts dancing
It’s very like
cute and sexy like Drew is
Um and you get like her cherub tattoos
on her lower back are peeking out
Like
we always love a tattoo peak, but also
like that adds to this like oh my god,
she’s so cool
Yeah, there’s like in
1995 like I I know I was too young to
really understand, but like we’ve got
90s love deep
Um anyway,
deep in our soul
All right, so Drew like does this
adorable spin with her back to the
audience
She impulsively and quickly
just lifts her shirt and flashes Dave
It’s just it’s so fast
It’s so fast
I’m almost like, did he
even see it
And then she, you know, like then she
immediately turns around with like a
look of disbelief and excitement on her
face
And this is like the most printed
picture basically is her like flipping
around and looking at the audience and
like she’s like celebrating and
totally like I can’t believe this just
happened
And it’s I just want to make it
clear like what’s so like it wasn’t like
she was flashing like the live audience
like she wasn’t like she didn’t bear her
chest to the TV
It was like this fun
moment and she’s clearly balless which
is like exactly her vibe at the time
So
everything about it is just playful
It’s like so playful
I do like people there
I’ve definitely
seen negative comments about it in
recent times
Um and we won’t get too
into that, but some people just miss the
point and they’re like, “Oh, if a dude
did this
” I’m like, “How do you even
begin to compare those things
Get out
of here
” Okay, so um a few more quotes
about the moment while we’re in the
moment
Um so let’s play the audio from
Wildflower
The moment was just one of
completely uncalculated silliness that
just started gaining motion like a
runaway train
If I was trying to be
sexy or get attention, it would have
felt that way
You could see me trying
to catch up to the train that was going
and after I was dancing on his desk, I
guess I wondered how I could up the ante
and strike a finishing moment
I lifted my top in a flash only for
David where no one else could see
I was
shocked at myself
And again, feeling
like the train was ahead of me, I turned
around and threw my arms up in the air
and looked to the audience like, “What
did I just do
Is this okay
Am I in
trouble
“
I didn’t even know
But then I just thought it’s time to get
off the desk and go back to my chair
And on my way there, I grabbed David by
the tie and brought him in for a sweet
kiss on the cheek
And it was sweet
But
the reaction of what he would think of
this whole moment hung in the balance
He threw his head back and
laughed
He let everyone know that it
was okay to enjoy the moment and not
overthink
This was a true moment of freedom and it
got to be something fun rather than
something wrong
Thank you for that,
Dave
It’s really sweet
It’s like it’s like
making me smile because it’s like she’s
talking about it in such a tender way
And it makes it make sense
Like
if you hear that, you can’t really be
like, “Oh, she’s so whatever negative
“
There’s still going to be people people
who have their opinions
We happen to
love her and her opinions
So anyway,
there here’s some other quotes
This is
from 1997 from US magazine
She said,
“Talk about moments
” Definitely one of
the best moments of my life
I’m just
standing there on Dave’s desk and the
only thing that’s going through my mind
is, “What are you doing
” It was never
planned
I just did it
And that was so
liberating
For the rest of my life, I
get to go back to that moment anytime I
want
And that same year, 97, she told Jane,
“That was so fun
It was so spontaneous
and so out of body
I can’t believe I
did that
I would never have the nerve
now
” I kind of like that she always
went like, “I still can’t believe this
happened
I still don’t know what I was
doing
” Like, there’s no part of her
that’s like, “Yeah, that was me
I was a
badass
” Like, she’s still like, “What
How did this happen
and she’s she lived her life
publicly
So, I feel like her even
thinking about the fact that’s like
national TV is probably not even really
on her mind
No, we’re going to get into that, too
So, as Drew said in
Wildflower, she gives David kiss on the
cheek
He looks totally stunned
They
actually showed this little shot of his
shocked face several times in her next
visit to the show, and he eventually was
like, “Stop showing that
” It’s really
funny
It is like a really funny clip
Yeah, a really funny image
And she just I know
And she hops back
down, gets in her chair in like a fit of
giggles, and this is what she had to
say
Let’s hear it
I would have always done it
It But it
was your birthday
You know, you know, I I can’t thank you
enough for that
[Applause]
[Laughter]
She’s so happy
She gets up and does them the cutest
little like um victory dance
Victory dance
The approval, you know, it’s like that
she was talking about
Oh, yeah
Because she was probably
inside like a little scared
How’s he
going to react
You know, this she said
like this could have gone real bad
It
is really funny as they go to
commercial
You have to listen for it
I
don’t even know if the version online
has it
I think it’s cut, but Drew
shouts really quickly, “I’m sorry,
Mary
” And that was for Eric Erinsson’s
mom, her boyfriend at the time, Eric
And we’ll talk a little bit more about
that in a minute
That’s so funny
when they come back
from commercial break, it’s it shows
that it’s being shown on the Megatron,
which is like a big huge TV in Times
Square
And yeah, and I’m like, but
they’re reacting to it live
I don’t
understand
Did his show air live
So why would it be playing in Time
Square
I’m so confused
I don’t know
I don’t get it either
Maybe there’s something that went on
back then that we don’t understand about
how his show aired in New York on the
street
I felt I guess maybe because I’m
such in like an AI and like things that
needed to edit mindset that I’m like is
that real
Like that would be so funny
if they did that
But like what I mean
yeah who knows who knows they have this
like you said like a direct line to the
Times Square like TV
Um okay so in this episode they talk
about other things like Drew’s career
and she sarcastically um says that she
can’t wait to hear what Stephen
Spielberg would say about what she just
did
He’s like really like a father to me
I
mean, he really is
And he still looks
at me like I’m his little girl
In fact,
I can’t wait to hear what he’s going to
say about what I just did
Dave’s cracking up
Um, another thing Drew said later in
Harper’s Bizaarre in 2007 was, “How can
I top that with a rice smile
I was so
out of body when that moment happened
“
Afterward, I said to Nancy Javonan, “Did
I just do that
” And she was like, “I
think you did
” And I was like, “Do
you
” But here’s what you were saying
She said, “I think I was like, do you
think anyone’s going to notice
“
She doesn’t know she’s Drew Barrymore,
guys
She also doesn’t realize like how
national TV is national, you know, like
Yeah
I don’t know
And then she said, you know, I couldn’t
do anything like that now, but have the
blast of your youth, you know, go for
it
I love that she said that in 2007
like
this is like
which to us is recent guys
I know it’s
18 years ago
Oh,
she would say the same thing now
All
right, a couple more little clips cuz
it’s so fun to like see how she
how she was feeling about it
You know,
we’re already completely on board with
how fun this moment was
Um, so Drew
also said in 1995, she said, “Any woman
who tells me she sat next to Dave’s desk
and didn’t want to get up and dance for
him, they’re lying or just really
different than me and I can’t understand
them
“
I love that, too
So then, uh, Letterman
said, this is also from the same article
from 1995
He said, “I guess an argument
can be made that it was in bad taste,
but I have to say from a professional
standpoint and also from a personal
standpoint, it was certainly one of the
delights of my adult life
“
I mean, yeah, you got to think
professionally, too, because this got
like a ton of coverage
So now his show
is in the public, in the press, right
Like people want to see this
adorable
moment like and and I guess maybe I just
Do you know anyone who watched it live
No, not that I know of
Because I’m pretty sure my high school
boyfriend George, you know him
I’m
pretty sure he told me that he watched
it live and he like remembers like who
already loved her at the time and he
would regularly watch David Letterman
so he like remembers being like, “Hell
yeah
“
Oh, I bet
Um, I do love the photo of her walking
to the car afterwards
There’s a couple
actually
You can see that Nancy is
there with her in the background of one
of them
But, uh, yeah, it’s funny like
she looks a little like
like almost in a days like I don’t know
what’s going to happen now
Like she does look a little I mean
she looks like her normal happy self but
with this like
Yeah
Um, and then one more quote
from Wildflower about the aftermath of
this
She said, “When we got in the car
after, I realized that this might make
waves
I met up with my friends from the
Lower East Side and we watched the show
together when it aired that night
As
the show started, I said, “Um, so this
might be a little crazy
” And they asked
me why
And I said, “Let’s just watch
“
And we did
As my dance on the desk
started to fly, my friends were as
shocked as anything you have ever seen,
but elated
And the whole thing ended in
cheers and people saying, “Oh my god,
and I can’t believe it
” They weren’t
judging me, but they weren’t exactly
condoning it either
I had done
something really out there by actually
putting it all out there
As I watched
myself and my friends laughing from an
objective perspective, I realized right
then and there that this was the end of
an era for me
And that’s true
It was a whole thing
It was an event
Y
um All right
So, we’ve got a clip from
2021
She’s always being asked about this
course still
I’m glad that Dave went with it cuz
Dave’s tricky
You know, he could have
turned on me in that moment and he had
my back in a moment where I did not know
what I was doing
Um, but I grew up
literally my biggest crush growing up
was David Letterman
So, I think I just
wanted to do something silly for him cuz
I’ve just loved what he put out into the
world
Um, I wasn’t trying to be sexual
I was just I don’t know what I was
doing
I still to this day don’t even
know how I would have the courage to do
something like that cuz now I’m so
appropriate and I just don’t even think
I have that
I would never do anything
like that now
So, it was it was fun
And we have like so many quotes of her
being like, “This is not who I am
anymore
” Of course, and like how I
mean, just one of the many things that
like as a mom, like this very public
life she’s had, her children being like,
“Oh, so she was on a talk show and
flashed them
” Huh, interesting
And I can’t wear a crop top
So, I think it’d be really
fun for you to introduce this thing
because you got some confirmation that
was really fun
like as we hit record
So, we knew of this really
adorable little skit that Late Show at
David Letterman ran
and we didn’t know when
Um, we have
finally gotten the answer
as of
recording, uh, there’s this guy who has
this incredible David Letterman database
that’s like I’ve just read a couple of
his blog posts about what it entails and
it’s unbelievably cool, right up our
alley, totally niche and nerdy
So, you
can find him at dawn’s denz
blog
blog
for that
But thanks to him, I I
messaged him like an hour ago
He got
back to me
He had the date
So on May
5th, 1995, so just less than a month
after this happened, there’s this little
skit where Dave all of a sudden runs out
of the studio cuz he realizes he’s late
for something
And they show him like
running down the streets of New York
He
runs up to this church, throws open the
door, runs up to the front of the
church, and it’s his wedding
And who is
the bride
It’s so cute
I love the reveal
So yes, like, thank you to this Dawn’s
blog
like so cool to have this date
because you and I were talking before we
started recording that like I didn’t
think about it being right after the
flashing like I don’t know I just didn’t
really associate them so that just makes
it like that much more funny and sweet
like he’s almost like oh now that she
flashed me we got to get married
that’s how
I got to be make an honest man out of me
or
it’s so it’s so adorable it’s like flash
like literally a flash in the pan is
that what you say
yeah and she gets to kiss him, which she
was pretty pumped about
I mean, yeah
Yeah, I get that
She,
like she said, she’s had a crush on him
her whole life
Um, all right
So, then
there was a follow-up appearance on May
22nd of 1995
Um,
we just living the dream back then
I mean,
yeah, why weren’t we why weren’t we
older
I don’t know
How well how do I
how do I wish that I was ready for Drew
at that point
Um, all right
So, in
Dave’s introduction, he says that Drew’s
appearances always cheer him up
Yeah, I bet
And, uh, Drew does a little like mimming
like flash when she comes out cuz of
course it’s hilarious
That’s everything
they want to, you know, joke about
Um,
and let’s get into a little bit of this
interview
Listen, uh, the last time you’re here,
uh, you did something I I’ve just I
still, you know, I start to yell
Have
you been having the same thing that I
have that everyone’s just talking about
it and every person
a lot of people
What is the
response you get from having done that
All positive which is great
You know I
thank people for enjoying that because
I’ll tell you how
I hope I’m still on the list
Well, you’re who I wanted to please the
most
That was very nice
And you did it
because it was my birthday
Roll the
video tape
That’s when they keep showing his face
going
All right
So then Drew in this
interview, she says that her boyfriend,
Eric Ernson’s whole family was watching
when it happened, and she was really
embarrassed, but she said they all got a
kick out of it, which is great
Yeah, thank goodness
Um, Drew gives props to the
perfect angle of the camera, which let’s
hear her listen to
But I also love this
idea because on when she was on that
Bill Maher show, she was like like
saying, “Oh, the coverage is great in
here
” Oh my gosh, you’re right
She’s
just very aware of that stuff where the
camera is
I mean, before she was actually
directing
Of course she was
So, let’s listen to her talk about the
perfect camera angle
You know what though
I got to say that
was perfect like angle
out better
Well, I think I had the best
angle
[Laughter]
Um, speaking of angles, I love that you
remembered
somehow this is less cute, but it’s
still funny
Um, in 2000 Dave had like
heart surgery and instead of having the
regular show, they were doing this thing
called Late Show backstage and they were
doing these like kind of private
interviews
Paul Schaefer interviewed
Drew and he tells her that he had the
perfect view of the Barrymore profile
that night
I think it’s e Paul
I mean, yes, a little gross, but like I
love that
I love the acknowledgement
in a different profile than we are used
to being referred to as the Barrymore
profile
All right
So, let’s let’s kind of get
into how Drew has changed since
Of
course, this is a huge thing
Drew is
not this little wood nymph anymore
She
is deep in her heart
The same person
Let’s listen to this little clip to
start us off
I don’t know
But I’m just so glad I got
to have a moment of that in my life
I
hope it comes back because it’s gone
And I would love it to come back
And
also when my boobs are hanging down at
my feet when I’m older, I’m going to be
like, “Look at where they were once
Look at that
” I mean, that’s so
great
Look at that
So that was in 1999
And as we know,
she’s gotten even more and more prudish
over the years
In 2005, she told
people, “Back then, I had a spontaneity
and a wildness that I totally don’t have
now
No more Playboy
No more standing
on Letterman’s desk
I don’t regret any
of it
I’m just past it
“
And then she also told the her favorite
magazine, the AARP,
back in 2020, “I was an absolute free
spirit
Glad I got that out of my system
because I’m a Puritan old lady now
I
wear clothes up to my neck
That kind of was true
At one point she
was like not showing her chest for a
while
So now, um, let’s get
back into Wildflower a little bit
So
she said,
“And so I started my journey into no sex
scenes in movies, modesty clauses in my
contract, and a total lack of nudity in
any public forum from there on out
And
year after year, I became more uptight
One button higher on the blouse, one
inch lower on the skirt
After
that, even though it went so well and
couldn’t have come off with a better,
more playful tone, I decided to take
matters into my own hands
I knew that
film had been my great opportunity in
the past, so I needed to make it my big
opportunity again
I wanted to be a good
girl, and I wanted goodness to be the
theme of my life and work
[Music]
It’s interesting how she frequently
thinks of herself as bad, you know,
like she was a wild child, but like
Well, she said she’s finally getting
over like the whole idea that she’s
going to get in trouble for everything,
right
It just makes me a little sad that
like this part of her life that we
admire and love so much, she thinks of
like, I was a bad girl and I needed to
behave after this, you know
I wish she
could reframe that
Maybe she has by
now
So the good girl roles kind of
follow after this
We’ve got Everyone
says I love you, Scream, The Wedding
Singer, Ever After
I mean, it goes on
So this it really was like the path that
she put herself on after that
Like
she’s like, “Okay, pinnacle
I feel like before reading this
chapter, you know, when a book first
came out, I don’t really feel like I
ever made that correlation that like
this was the end of this era because she
was like frequently nude in movies in
the early ‘9s, didn’t care, like
you know, in her in her skin and loving
it
But it’s really you can really like
draw the line in the sand
This is when
it all shifted
Um, a little more of the aftermath
So,
I just wanted to include this because
it’s kind of a lesserk known thing, but
I think it’s funny
In 1998, she did a
cameo as herself on a season 6 episode
of the Larry Sanders show, which was
about like a fictional talk show
And I
think like that show is ending
And so,
she’s making a little video saying, “Oh,
goodbye
Thank you for everything
Um,
let’s play this clip
So, show your tits
Well, you know, like he did on on on
Letterman, you know, little
whoop-doodle
What the are you
talking about
Cut, cut, cut
Um, I thought that was
like your stick, you know, like I do
Hey, now
it’s pretty funny
In like a 98 Drew to
be dropping the fbomb
It felt very
like, oh, she is still a bad girl
Yeah, I really like it
And yeah, I love
that she had this little like Larry
Sanders show like little, you know, bop
in there
It’s It’s pretty fun
And then we go forward to 2002 and
there’s some flirtiness going on in this
one
So, in a cute little call back to
the appearance, um, Drew like laid on
top of Dave’s desk and it was just a
cute little like before the commercial
break or something, right
Like,
yeah, I don’t totally remember the
context
I feel like she it was
Christmas time
I feel like she picked
up some like prop presents and got up on
the desk and Yeah, she’s just laying
there kicking her heels up
But, uh, we
all know what what’s a little call back
to
Um, in 2021 on the first birthday
surprise episode of the Drew Barrymore
Show, so this is the first time they
like just packed an episode full of
surprises for her
Um, Dave actually showed up and this was
still like pretty co time
Like people
were still zooming in
I think he
actually starts as a Zoom call and then
surprises her by actually walking out to
the stage which is really cool
I
remember being very touched by this, but
um very full circle because you know it
was his birthday when she did that and
then he’s surprising her for her
birthday
I kind of love it
And they of
course had to discuss the classic
moment
All right, let’s hear it
I had no plan of doing that
It was one
of those moments in my life where I felt
like a magnet was pulling me
Uh, and it
was all very playful and well-intended
and I just had no idea where it was
going
I couldn’t almost believe it was
happening
I think a little bit I was on
the ride too, wondering what was going
to happen next
And you taught me in
that moment how to be as a human being
because
I was shocked and I almost was like,
should I be embarrassed
Did I do
something bad
Am I in trouble
And I
knew in that moment that with one turn,
you could have gone, why did you do
that
What’s what’s wrong with you
And instead, you had that smile and you
said to everyone, “This moment is okay
“
And I thought, “I will treat people
I
will handle I will be the conductor for
the rest of my life to see when
spontaneity happens or something is
going on
I hope that I can be half the man Dave
is right now and just let something
innocent and spontaneous be innocent and
spontaneous
Well, I recognized it immediately as
being unique
It had it had not happened
prior to me
has not happened since to
me
And later I was thinking, “Oh jeez,
now what if she goes and does this on
Leno’s show
Then I’ll really be upset
“
That’s actually the perfect segue
It actually kind of is
All right, so
now let’s go to 2025
So that’s this
year
We get Drew doing a fun little
dance on another talk show host’s desk
Not Leno
So, just a few weeks ago, we talked
about it already on the show, but just
in case you didn’t listen to that one,
Drew went on the current version of The
Late Show with Steven Coar, and there’s
some stuff going on politically over
there
I don’t want to get into it
I’m
stressed out about the world
But in
order to show her love for him, she
said, “Oh, I have a lot of memories in
this theater with Dave
I had a lot of
fun
” and she gets up on his desk
She
does not flash him, but she pulls off
her jacket and the back of her shirt and
like beautiful sequins said we heart
Steven and it was a very cute tribute
She did say like this feels really
different now or something like that
She did when she was like kind of
crawling back and forth on top of his
desk like she’s like it’s not the same
Not the same but so sweet
So sweet
Um, and then Letterman was on
Drew’s show literally a week later,
which it’s like was like really re like
really soon after, right
It was like so
soon after
And they spoke very fondly
about it
And of course Dave had to
tease like pretending to be mad that she
did a dance for Colbear
Like I thought
that was our thing
It’s It was really sweet
It’s always
really sweet seeing them together
Well, I mean it’s crazy
So, I was
doing the math on it from our records,
from what I could find
I ended up
making a spreadsheet because that’s the
kind of loser I am
I love a
spreadsheet
Drew had made what I count
as 18 regular appearances on Late Show
with Letterman from 1995 to 2010
Um,
and then there were three other random
appearances
So, that cameo in the
wedding skit that we talked about,
there’s another weird, totally random
cameo we know nothing about from 1999
where she like kisses him, quote
unquote, it’s a camera and the pants
catch on fire
Remember that weird
thing
Oh, it sounds vaguely familiar
You’ll remember if when I show you
Um,
and then also, as we already discussed,
that late show backstage interview from
2000 when um Dave was recovering from
heart surgery and Paul Schaefer
interviewed her, which I would love to
get my hands on that one
I actually
reached out to Drew Barrymore Daisy to
see if she had that and I haven’t heard
back yet, but fingers crossed
Fingers crossed
All right, so guys,
we’re caught up
This was this fun
historic thing
Okay, so we’re how many
years from that having happened
This is the 30-y year anniversary
30 years
Did
you say so special
I mean, what a thing in your life
Like,
of all these things that happened in
Drew’s life, this is one of the big
ones
This is one of those like this
never gets left out of any story about
her, any autobiography
I mean, any
biography, any special about her
This
is always mentioned
It’s one of those
really iconic moments in her very
colorful history
Yeah, I’m glad that we covered it
I
almost felt like it wasn’t going to be
enough and then like
yeah guys it was enough
It always is
There’s always layers upon
layers and many many quotes from her
Hopefully it wasn’t overkill but I just
pulled anything I could find because it
was just too much fun
Really fun
And the repeating of the
like
the consistency of how she’s felt about
it like almost like since it happened
even through like now
I like
the reiteration of the same kind of in
like intention
She’s never changed her story
She’s sticking to it
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How Do You Drew Episode 117 – Charlie’s Angels
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[Music] How do you drew
How do you drew
[Music] Good morning, angels,
and welcome to How Do You Drew
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And thanks to our sponsor and friends at
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I’m an Ashley
And this week,
we are finally discussing Charlie’s Angels
[Music]
It’s kind of wild that we waited, but also it
felt really daunting, right
And when
when you were going through this process, did it
feel daunting
You know, it’s funny
I’m going to
mention it a little bit later on
There’s a way
that Drew kind of describes Flower Films taking
it on and I was like relatable because I was like
this is going to be a lot and it it’s a lot like
there’s no way we’re going to get to everything
There’s yeah just so much we could delve into
There’s so many tidbits
There’s so much to
talk about
Even just talking about the movie
like there are so many costumes that it’s like oh
yeah another scene, another scene
Another scene
we have to talk about
So, let’s get
into it
Um, we’re just going to kind of get the
what do you call it
Like the big stuff out of the
business
The business
The business
This film was directed by MC G, the lovely MC G
Uh, it was written by Ryan Row and Ed Solomon and
John August and many, many others
We’ll talk
about that
It was produced by Leonard
Goldberg, Drew Barrymore, and Nancy Jonan
And do you want to talk about why we’re here
So, this movie was released on November 3rd in
the year 2000
And this is the Yes
I was hoping
you’d do that
This is the 25 year anniversary
That’s insane
And happy 25 years
Half a freaking
quarter of a century
What is even happening right
now
This movie just came out recent
This recent
film from the year 2000
Uh yeah, I feel like I
because it’s so close to my birthday, I remember
like being excited and almost felt like a gift
like you know when this was coming out
Let’s talk
about that
Like I mean this is I think we have
this shared experience of this being sort of the
first production that Drew did um as an actress
or producer that we really followed the process
from the start
Like we knew when it was
announced, we knew when they started filming, we
saw the paparazzi photos
We got all these little
like casting info
Like every step of the way,
our little grapevine drooy crew was like watching
the news on it and sharing it with each other
So
this was I mean not only is it just a huge movie
in so many ways, but it was huge for us to like
it was an event
We were like so like tightly knit
connected with that message board and this really
was like kind of like maybe the height was kind of
like right in this range, right
Oh, totally
Um,
what do you remember about seeing it with it being
sort of a birthday gift to you
You know what
I
I sadly don’t remember seeing it vividly
Like I
don’t remember the experience in the theater
I
know I’ve loved it every time I’ve watched it,
but I don’t have any recollection of like the
first time
I just know I was excited
And I
think I even got like the movie poster before
I saw the movie
Oh, totally
And it was
like I had the shiny one that had like silver foil
all around
I was in college and
my friends Jenny and Claire, we literally took a
bus to get to the movie theater
Jenny had been
like also like kind of following all of the like
news and stuff and she like brought me all the
stuff back from London where she lived cuz it was
always, you know, was in all the magazines
We’re
going to talk about that, too
But, um, yeah
So,
it was really exciting and I freaking loved it
Like, how do you not watch this movie and just
have a blast, right
I mean, it’s it’s not
supposed to be serious
It’s you’re supposed to
come out of it a little bit like, okay, yeah, that
was fun
You know what
I didn’t pull it
We had a
quote a couple episodes ago about something funny
that Drew said about it
And now I don’t remember
like the source of it, but it was something like
you want to come out of it and like make out
with your girlfriend or like go have fun with your
friends
Like that’s how she wanted people to come
out of the movie
So yeah, we we are very nostalgic about this
film as you can see
This is like you know it just
marks this certain point like how old was I
I had
I was about to turn 16 and I was 18
Should we read our
favorite IMDb summary
Yeah, go for it
Three private investigators are assigned to track
down a kidnapped software engineer, but the case
isn’t always as straightforward as it seems
It’s
a very vague way
That’s all it is
Three private
investigators
No like high jinks, disguises,
adventure fights, like none of that stuff
That’s
I mean I guess that’s the plot
I guess that’s the
point is like funny
It’s kind of giving away
There’s a twist with this uh kidnapping
It’s Do
they always refer to the char like the angels as
private investigators
I was wondering that too
because at one point I was like, “Oh, they’re
spies
” And then there’s another point where I
think Knox says you’re a detective
And so, yeah,
I don’t know
Maybe it’s like a very, you know,
the angels are the angels and that’s all you need
to know
I never really thought about like,
yeah, what category do they fit in
I just knew
it was like you come to them if you have a very
specific and like need that requires a lot
of knowledge and skills
Um all right,
let’s get into the making of the film
So there’s
a lot that went into this
Um obviously there’s a
lot of history because it’s Charlie’s Angels
So
it’s based on the popular 1970s Aaron Spelling
Leonard Goldberg television show if you’re not
aware of that for some reason
Um Drew said about
the TV show, I loved it
I collected Matchbox
cars and Tonka trucks and it was the one show
where I saw women driving really cool sports cars
Isn’t that fun
That’s really fun
She also said,
“I always just remember that there was nothing I
didn’t like about any of them
I loved all three
of them so much
” And I I didn’t note it here,
but I do remember Drew saying that like at one
point they wanted the original Angels to cameo
It was never able to like be figured out
But I
think she said her envision was or her vision
was that her the current angels and the former
angels would like pass each other like passing
the torch like an escalator or something
And
that was sort of what she ended up doing with the
Siza video, just walking by her and being like,
“Oh
” So she was comparing those
That’s kind of cool
That is cool
So,
let’s get back to the making up
So, when Nancy
Javonan learned that Sony and Colia were making
a film version in 1998, she immediately knew
that she and Drew just needed to get on top of
it
Like, this was the project
She like felt it
They were passionate about it from the start
Um,
they pitched it using a videotape montage that
Drew had compiled of film of like clips from
other movies
So, she basically made like a real
um using clips from Lost in America, The Jerk,
The Red Balloon, and Raging Bull
And it was to
like explain like this is what the tone that I’m
going for is
Um I was thinking that it reminds
me of um the fact that like when she did Whip It,
we know that she had like a wall of like
inspiration
I was thinking the exact
same thing
She’s very into like mood boards
or mood videotapes, I guess, right
And like I I
had this like, oh, it’d be so cool to see that
knowing she curated it
Really cool to
like get into Drew’s brain and think about that
stuff
So, it was announced in February 1999 that
Drew and Flower Films were officially attached
to the project
And I’m sure we found out about
it right away, right
I was going to say like
February 99 like that
It’s like it was
such a peak time, right
Um, so this is what I
was referring to earlier
So Drew said, quote,
“I feel like step one was producing Never Been
Kissed
We kind of skipped steps two, three, and
four and went straight to five
I don’t think we
had any idea how intense it would be
” And yeah,
preparing for this episode felt a little like
that where I was just like and I was trying
to like do it in a short amount of time
should
have should have done it earlier and it was just
like oh my god like I was literally telling you
I was in yoga yesterday trying to be present on
the mat and instead I’m like thinking about
all these different notes I wanted to add
literally like text about Drew flying at you while
you’re closing your eyes trying to zone everything
out just for an hour please
All right so um
anyway you just we just love it so much that
you can’t stop thinking about it
Um, so Drew
and Nancy like really really like went to bat
for MC G who was a music video director
Can I ask
you real quick
Were you familiar with him
before this
I knew the videos and I don’t know
that I had noticed that director over and over
again
I was like an uber nerd about music
videos in the ‘9s
And like this will probably
come as a great shock to you, but all the ones I
recorded, I also made notes of who the music video
director was
So I would pay attention to like
the repeating person and what their style was
So I recognized not only MC G because I knew his
name
It’s very unique
And he’d done like Sugar
Ray and Sublime and stuff, but his style was very
like saturated colors
And like there’s parts in
this movie where I’m like, “Oh, that’s exactly
what he kind of has in one of his music videos
“
And Right
So I like I remember being like,
“Cool
” Like this will look great
And
I think I I can’t I don’t know if I was aware, but
also this is like a time when my uh musical taste
was like changing also
So I might not have been
watching MTV or if I was, I don’t know
Anyway,
um so this film was MC’s feature film debut
So basically at that point he was known as this
music video director um and he gave them a super
enthusiastic pitch for his vision
So he set the
stage here
So here’s a quote
One thing about MC
G when he did his presentation to us was that he
was ready to act it all out to us scene by scene,
shot by shot
It felt like a historical moment in
my life
His presentation itself was worth doing
the movie
He is full of passion, enthusiasm,
optimism, and energy
That his belief in us
made us work harder and be better at our jobs
I do know that there’s a part in the DVD special
features where Bill Murray is kind of making fun
of MC G like he says like if you put a quarter
in him, he’ll do the entire movie
And like But
that’s so cool
He really like got into it
He
was like this is what it’s going to be
I also always really loved the way that he
describes his vision um in this little clip about
the storybook pages
Each scene, you know, had its
own signature
I wanted it to feel like a gigantic
story book where you were turning pages
You
remember the scene at the racetrack
You remember
Cameron’s dream
You remember Lucy inside of a
chrome Airstream trailer, the Swiss Miss yodeller
scene
You would never confound this page with the
current page with the page that’s about to follow
I love that
Love that the story book part
I mean
that kind of is what I was saying earlier like
there’s so many costumes, there’s so many like
different things that you can’t describe without
saying like what their disguise is basically
I love that
Um everyone in the
casting crew raved about that enthusiasm and joy
and energy that he brought
Um he’d applaud after
se like every single scene throughout filming
like enthusiasm to the max
Like absolutely,
absolutely
And this is a cute other little
clip of Drew just gushing about McGee
I have
a love and a loyalty towards this man because I
continued without doubt to trust his instincts
I
love that
And I know that we know that there was
quite an affection like they she like because she
had gone to bat for him like I don’t know
I also think it’s interesting that flower films
frequently had these like instincts about people
like I think about Richard Kelly with Donnie Darko
also first time director also got push back from
you know whoever the financers studios whatever
like and they were like no like this is this
is the guy he has the vision we’re going with
him and it’s very similar in that way it’s so cool
right I really like that um should we get into our
little encounters with pink G briefly just briefly
we’ve been lucky enough to meet him three times,
which is hilarious
Okay, so I’m remembering
two and Why don’t I remember the third
So,
let me What I think is the first was on the set
of Full Throttle
Okay, so we weren’t Well,
okay guys, the set this day was Hollywood
Boulevard and it’s Yeah, it wasn’t like a closed
private set
He just was like walking down the
street and we were like MC G
and he like stopped
and talked to us and we took a picture with him
and it was like here he is directing this gigantic
movie on Hollywood Boulevard and there’s like no
one around him
It was crazy
And then the second
time we met him I believe would have been when we
just happened to go see Confessions of a Dangerous
Mind on opening day in a movie theater and he
was like two seats behind us and we got to talk
to him after and it was like almost empty, wasn’t
it
I feel like it was like us and him and like a
few other people and it like maybe it was like a
matinea like I remember it was like it might have
even was it New Year’s Day
Yeah, it was something
weird like that, right
If like everything about
it felt like very specific but it was just like
holy [ ] McGee’s behind us and he’s so nice And then the last time, what you’re probably not remembering is that we went and saw him at the Arklight for one of those Master Storytellers Q& A’s for Charlie’s Angels And we also took a picture with him after that I am completely blanking on this Yeah, I don’t remember that one as well either If there wasn’t a photo, I’d probably forget it even happened, which is crazy Where was it The Ark Light Same place where we saw Kevin Williamson do Scream and then Drew and Nancy for 50 First Dates, of course So, I remember those Why don’t I remember Anyway, I don’t know We did too many cool things back in the day, guys Remember remember that I mean, do you remember we met Cameron Diaz Cuz I always forget that and I just saw her name and I was like, “Oh, yeah We met her, too ” That’s right When you’re around LA, a lot things like this just happen It’s just encounters with people who are, you know, it’s like whatever It’s their town So Drew convinced Cameron Diaz to sign on even without a complete script So uh here’s a quote It says, “Cameron is effervescent, optimistic, and has a great strength and stability in her She is one of the most real people I have met in my life I’ve always wanted to work with her I thought it would be great to do something fun together, and this is an opportunity that’s different from a lot of films because of the various aspects And there’s like all these fun stories about how of course we know the magic of Drew picking up the phone and calling somebody for something It like happens so often like Right Cameron said like they talked for so long that like her cell phone was like burning up her face and the battery died because they just started like getting all these ideas and getting so excited about what this could be I love it so much So Drew and Cameron spent the next few months like in story meetings trying to figure out their characters and then more importantly they started this intense training for the martial arts and wire stunts in the film And I found out that it was in the um what was at the time the LA Park Plaza Hotel’s basketball court which is like such a fun little snippet I was like I have to write that down somewhere We can’t forget that It’s now called the MacArthur I love that I even found pictures of it I was like, “That’s so cool ” I love that I love these little things We just live for this Tidbits galore Give them to us So, we remember this vividly So, rumors went on for like so long about who the third angel would be Um, some actresses mentioned included um Angelina Jolie, Sandy Newton, Jennifer Lopez, uh, Penelopey Cruz, and Jada Pinket Smith Um, you made a note here that Sandy Newton has said like I think outright that Amy Pascal was kind of racist to her about this opportunity Which is crazy because like by looking at these names with the exception of Angelina like there clearly were going for like a minority for the third role and having diversity which is great but yeah it uh didn’t the things that um Sandy said was like cringe Oh, Amy Pascal I always think of her crazy hair at Drew’s star ceremony I can picture it I pictured a picture that I took Um um other others who were known to have auditioned include uh Nia Long and Regina Hall And those are just like what people we found out like they’ve both uh mentioned on on Drew’s show Which is really cool But of course, when Lucy Lou came in, there was just immediate chemistry They all knew she was the one Um, a quote from Lucy is, “I don’t think I’ve ever laughed so hard at a reading I forgot about the job for a minute It was more about finding friends I was hoping I could get to know better ” A I know And then Cameron also said, “We all have the same sense of humor We all have that same twistedness about us ” So, they just like clicked And it’s cool because Lucy brings a very different energy than Drew and Cameron do, which is perfect That’s what you want But like yeah, there was something that they all connected and like had the same about that like filled some gap Like it feels like a like circle or something I wonder when they started calling each other Pooh I don’t know Probably right away I could see that That’s like definitely a pet name that continues Um, all right So now let’s talk about the cast because there’s a pretty amazing cast It’s kind of crazy Like we can’t can we even mention everyone I don’t know There’s so many like fun little cameos and popups At one point like while I was watching the film, I was like it was like this person followed by this person quickly I feel like it was like Bill Murray and then Tim Curry It was like them back toback And I was like, “Oh, cool So, let’s let’s let’s talk about uh the angels first ” So, Drew as Dylan Uh Drew said of her character Dylan Dylan was the wild one who had been born into reform school She was the Wendy O of the Angels completely badass Like she’s a Hessher An absolute rock and roll reform schoolgirl Hessher I also think it’s funny that she had described herself in rehab as like Wendy O, like trying to get everybody riled up So, I I just wanted to like explain because I don’t think I knew this outright, so I don’t know if other people do So, Wendy O was a famous like singer of a punk band called The Plasmatics Um, and I pulled a quote It says that she was noted for her onstage theatrics which included partial nudity, exploding equipment, firing a shotgun, and chainsawing guitars Yeah, that’s Dylan vibes I get it, right So, it’s kind of cool, you know, and when even when they’ll get into it, but when they show her at the very beginning, like she’s totally a Hasher Um, another thing that Drew said was that after playing so many good girl roles, she really wanted to play someone who had a [ ] drink, loved to
have a kind of wild night, and also just had balls
of steel, would jump off a [ ] 50ft building and not question that she wasn’t going to make it okay because it wasn’t about making it okay That was a given I wanted to play a little bit of a badass I wanted to play someone who was unashamed and was in touch with her sexuality and in touch with her bravery And yeah, I would imagine going off of Josie Grossy, this is like such a change I absolutely love it Although there are some Josie mannerisms that I’m gonna note Yeah, I’m excited to hear like of course it’s like it’s Drew It’s still Drew But I was I’ll say really quickly because like she definitely like got into that role Like even when you see her like there’s one point when they’re sitting in um the agency they’re like sitting on the couch and the way Drew’s sitting like she looks like a badass like kind of slumped down I know exactly And she like has like one of her legs up or something but like it’s very there’s something very like confident about just the way she’s sitting that gives off this vibe So okay so we mentioned Cameron Diaz Uh she plays Natalie Um she’s kind of described as a California girl next door goofy but genius And then at Lucilio is Alex and she’s like the high class sort of born with a silver spoon angel And it’s just such a great like great combination like to go from hey we don’t really have a script We don’t know who these characters are Like I feel like they really did great like nailing it all down So and then we mentioned Bill Murray Bill Murray as Bosley Um it was apparently pretty hard to get him to sign on Um he even did the uh Oh yeah, we I forgot we I think we talked about this when we did the SNL When they were trying to get him, Drew attended the SNL 25th anniversary special and he was hosting it and he came up to her in the audience and started singing Don’t Go Chasing Waterfalls And it was very much like, you know, I I even finally found like the source of that information And even Nancy was like, “Yeah, we were trying to figure out for a while what he was trying to tell us with that ” But he eventually relented, so I’m like, “Get over yourself, Bill Sam Rockwell, who we love Um, he plays him, too Yes, we have Didn’t we like conjure him Yeah, that’s a better way to put it We conjured him out of the ether on on Sunset Boulevard We’re like, “We’d love to meet Sam Rockwell ” And like five minutes later, he pulled up in a car and ran into a store in front of us It was so weird, guys It was so weird So anyway, Sam Rockwell, he’s Eric Knox MC G and Sam wanted the quote unquote good version of the character to be really like warm and fuzzy and with like messed up hair or like Spike Jones or Beck Totally comes off Like right when I read this, I was like totally Um, and then he and Drew, Sam and Drew would soon play love interests again in Confessions of a Dangerous Mind And later they played Siblings and Everybody’s Fine Um, anyway, we love Sam Rockwell You met him again Yeah, because we didn’t actually talk to him that time It happened so fast and it was so [ ] like what
Like he clearly was,
right
I think he must have like It was book soup
It was book soup
I think he must have
like paid and then like gotten it and left like or
something like it was it was yeah it was like less
than a minute
I don’t know
It was so fast
So I
got another chance and I was like I am not missing
this opportunity again and I like fully stopped
him in like a food court of the Palms and got a
really cute picture
We’re going to have a lot
of cool pictures of us with people to put in this
one
Um, Kelly Lynch is Vivian Wood,
Knox’s business partner, and you know, she also
turns out to be a bad guy
Uh, and then Crisen
Glover is the creepy thin man
And I thought this
was fun
MC G said that Crispen, this is so like,
yep, what exactly you think Crisen would do, gave
him three pages on the psychology of the character
and that everything all the way down to the way
he held a cigarette was completely planned out by
him
just I mean speaking of cigarettes like when
he smokes and walks like his smoke like whooshes
behind him and it looks really cool and I was like
I bet that was him completely like doing that
For somebody who has no dialogue in this
entire movie, he makes such an impression
It’s
like it’s really cool
He only like screams
Yeah,
he does scream
You’re right
All right, so then
we have Matt Leblanc as Jason
Um, he plays Alex’s
love interest, which is Lucy Lou
And if you don’t
know about his bangs in this movie, you’re in
for a treat
Um, all right
So, then we’ve got
Tom Green as the Chad
He’s one of Dylan’s love
interests
Drew was a fan of his TV show and on
MTV and kind of had a crush on him and wanted
him in the movie
So, she charmed him, right
There she goes again
and she charmed
him so much that they ended up getting married
eventually
They started dating during filming
and then they were married in 2001
And
his whole like testicular cancer went on during
filming of this like Whoa
I didn’t realize it
was kind of the same
It was exactly the same
timeline
Same exact time
Yeah, I know
She had a lot going on at this time
It’s
crazy
she like made her way out of this year
Um,
we also have to mention Luke Wilson as Pete
He
becomes Natalie’s love interest
And, you know,
interestingly enough, he was Drew’s most recent
ex at this time
And sometimes I wonder like how
did she feel watching her best friend flirt
with her ex like, you know, on camera for for
the movie
But still, it’s like I would love to
know
I don’t think we’ve ever found out like how
he ended up in the movie
Why they asked him to do
it because he’s so cute and charming
I don’t know
what When was the last appearance where they were
seen together
It was like right at the time she
was training for Charlie’s Angels
It was
like the end of 1999, like right when she like the
those pictures of her changing in the parking lot
to jog was because she was training for the movie
Oh, that makes sense
So, maybe maybe
it’s a thing where he had the part because
they were together and then they split up and
then all of a sudden she’s dating Tom
I don’t
know
But like the part as not her love
interest is someone else’s
So, it’s it’s kind of
interesting
I mean, either way, he’s great in it
Oh, I love him in this movie
He’s so sweet
So,
then I we mentioned Tim Curry earlier
He plays
Roger Corwin, the owner of Knox’s rival company,
Red Star
Um, he’s like a villain but not the
villain
He’s like a jerk, but he doesn’t he’s
not really the bad guy
I think we we think he
is and then it turns out he’s not
He’s so like
memy in this movie
Yeah, he is
It’s perfect
though
He He does He does a great job
Um,
and then John Foresight is returning as the
original voice of Charlie from the TV series,
which is so cool
I love I love that they
got that
Like that’s so rad
He said I did
a special with Drew when she was 10 and I said
we’ve got to act together when you grow up
Oh,
that’s so sweet
It is sweet, especially when you
think about like how Dylan is sort of like the one
who’s like doesn’t have a family, sees Charlie,
but also like the novelization really hammers home
like her wanting to see Charlie
Like in every
phone call she goes, “Charlie, can you join us
“
Like it’s kind of goofy, but I wonder if like that
was in the script where it was more like she’s
always searching for that
Interesting
So,
we have some of our Drew regulars on the crew
So,
the makeup supervisor was Kim Green and
the hair supervisor was Barbara OA and they
frequently worked together with Drew for years
and years and years on a lot of her stuff
Um,
we were lucky enough to interview Kim on our
episode 20 and she told us that she always loved
working with Drew and Nancy and Flower because
there were always days of makeup planning and
tests and she absolutely loved doing like all
of Dylan’s disguises
So, go listen to that
episode if you want a little more
We have those
amazing Polaroids that she shared once online
that like have totally made their way all over
the internet, but it’s at like eight different
Drew Polaroids on the set of the movie
And oh my
god, Kim, if you ever want to give those to us,
please do
Oh, the DM would be the place
for them
We should tell her that
But her makeup
in this movie is so beautiful
Like there’s a lot
of really bold, colorful choices with the lips and
the eye shadow, but it just totally works
I love
every single one works
Everything works on that
Why is she so beautiful in this movie
I don’t
know
I think I think she just is very beautiful
and this is like and this is showcasing it
I
think it’s like it’s purposely showcasing their
beauty and power
The angels are elevated, right
So everything is elevated, including their
beauty
And of course her red hair
Like I
I think that was such a cool choice for her to do
Like I still to this day will never get over
her not doing it red for the sequel
Anyway,
and like she loves red heads
She’s always talked
about how red heads are like the hottest thing in
the world
So I just I think that was a brilliant
choice and I’m sure that was her decision
Yeah,
I’m sure
So then the casting
was done by Justine Battley and Kim Davis
Wagner
Justine was friends with Drew since she
was like 13
They lived together for a while
um in the 90s
And then Kim Davis is Tamara
Davis’s sister and they did casting for a
lot of Flower Films productions as a team
I feel like they worked as a team
Yeah,
they always worked together
Yeah, they still do
Oh, that’s so cool
Um, and then Drew’s assistant,
credited, is uh Chris Miller, who we
love
And wait, we’ve met him, too
We probably have uh gushed about Chris
Miller many times, but like we love Chris Miller
He became our go-to guy for such a long time
He
is now the showrunner for the Tonight Show
Like
he is owe him a lot a big shot
He
g he gave us I feel like he he definitely is the
reason that we were able to do what we’re able to
do recently
He like opened the door to give
us what Drew says
What did what did she say
We
have um direct access
Direct access to her
That
all started with Chris
By the way,
that’s very nice of her to say, but there’ll be
more about Chris a little bit later on
Um okay,
the costume designer
We have to give credit to
this guy cuz hello, this movie costume’s amazing
It’s Joseph G
Alisi and I think this is cool
He
thought it was very important to give each angel
their own signature style
And I just pulled this
little quote that he had about Drew’s character
because that’s who we are here for
He said,
“As for Drew Barrymore’s fun reformed rebel
character, Dylan, Alisi said he incorporated
the actress’s real life neo flower power fondness
for vintage clothes into the wardrobe
He believes
Barry Moore’s best attributes are her shoulders
and neckline, so he put her in clothes with deep
plunging necklines
” And that made me realize
like when I read it, because I always think Dylan,
I always think like rock and roll look, but she
actually in the first movie is more like bohemian
She’s wearing a lot of like these kind of flowy
covers like I chose to wear today
Like she
doesn’t really have with the exception of the rock
band which is a disguise and like her flashback to
her, you know, high school bathroom or whatever
Like she doesn’t really dress like that
That’s
true
It’s kind of interesting
One other cool
thing about Joseph is that he did her dress for
the 2000 Oscars, which um the Angels all went
to, and we’ll mention that later on, but this is
the one with the plunging back line, which is so
cool
And um I know we’ve mentioned this before,
but she specifically said that dress was lost in
her house fire
At least we
have a million pictures of it, right
the
Oscars like they take I don’t know sort of to go
back to the Oscars
Yeah, me too
So, um many of the costume pieces for Charlie’s
Angels were created by John David Ridge
Um and
it turns out he designed Drew’s wedding dress
for her marriage to Tom Green in 2001
So, it’s
kind of cool that she like had them make personal
clothes for her
Found that out
I was so pumped
to like get that piece of information
We have
a whole episode on Drew’s weddings and we didn’t
know anything about that dress
In fact, there’s
no good photos of that dress
It’s very hard to
see the details of it
But when I found that out,
it was like just so cool to learn that
And we
ended up contacting like a university that has
his collection in their archives and they sent
us like some of the documents from when he was
designing the dress
It’s just like so neat
It was so cool
Um, all right
So,
the martial arts, we mentioned that Drew was
training
Like, as soon as they basically decided
they were doing the movie, they were training
Um,
Chen Yan Yun
I don’t know how to say that
Uh,
aka the master
I love this guy
He didn’t
he do the Matrix
Yeah, he did the Matrix,
which is very like you can see the the inspiration
in there, I think, in some of the scenes, right
So they trained with like
they did real training, real I mean there is a
great video on YouTube that we’ll link to that
it’s from the DVD, but it shows like what they
went through and it’s really I’m going to mention
this again later on when we go through the movie,
but it’s really like satisfying to see like them
trying to get moves down and like looking kind of
sloppy to what ends up, you know, happening when
we see it on screen
It’s just so cool
And they
had a lot of respect for this guy
It sounds like
he’s the master
He was making them as powerful as
they needed to be, right
Here’s just
a little quick clip from Drew talking about the
training process
Your knuckles would be broken
with bloody vessels and you just thought, “Yeah,
that’s so hot
” You sweat, you bond, you learn
things that you never thought that you could do
It’s just so cool
like Drew not ever thinking of
herself as that athletic, right
To see the things
that she was able to do after this training
I’m
just so proud
Every time I watch it, I’m like,
look at her go
It’s so cool
I mean,
this was a cool movie, you know
Like it’s that’s
the thing is it’s like fun
She got
to be cool and do cool things like anyways
So, we mentioned um earlier that there were
many writers that worked on this
So, famously,
there were like many writers and a lot of rewrites
and like day of filming, I think they were like,
“Here’s some new pages
” I love this screen cap
you put in here where it’s like the different
versions and their date
So, it’s like blue
version, pink version, yellow version, and it’s
like days apart
And then it starts getting
real random
Salmon cherry
Guys, there’s like 10
different versions on just this screenshot
There
probably were more
There’s probably more
So, we know that an early version of
the script had something to do with supermodels
being cloned and Drew and Nancy were like, “Eh,
like they ditched that immediately
” Um, and
the writer, John August, recalls he had an early
meeting with Drew about the screenplay where she
really emphasized that she wanted the angels to be
confident on the job and giant dorks off the job,
which is so fun
That’s so Drew, too
It really really that’s totally her
Um I do want to say like so like I said
I read the novelization because sometimes you
can get little snippets of things that were cut
out of the movie when you do that
So it’s kind
of fun
But it really drove home the fact to
me that like the script is pretty like when
you’re just reading it and you don’t have like
the imagery and the music and like the all the
charisma from the performances and just all of
the things MC G brought to it
It’s like, wait,
what’s going on
It’s But that’s
not what we’re here for, so it doesn’t matter,
right
I mean, there’s a very general conflict
that resolves
Like, that’s that’s it
That’s all
we really don’t worry about those weird details
about the satellites and right, things that don’t
make sense at all
Um, Drew had a very
clear stance that she didn’t want the angels
to have guns
And I feel like this was like in
a lot of the like media about it
It was like
they are using their hands like they are doing
martial arts like we’ve said
So filming started
on January 10th, 2000 and it ended approximately
in May
And one of the cool things that we kind
of had mentioned this before was that we would
get to see a lot of paparazzi photos which like
you know paparazzi we’re not always here for it
but we got to see like a lot of onset pictures
whenever they were filming like out in public
So,
we there’s some really fun pictures from all the
different scenes
I love the one of her and Tom
where she’s got that the messed up hair from the
in the makeup from the beginning of the movie
I for some reason really remember the ones
of her in the water and it’s probably because it
was like printed in People magazine or something,
right
It was like a two-page spread or
something crazy like that
And they’re so of
course she looks beautiful
So
despite rumors to the contrary, the actresses got
along really well and became lifelong friends
I
mentioned earlier I was trying to figure out when
they started calling each other Pooh
And I feel
like every time like Drew and Cameron do anything,
even publicly, they are calling each other
Poo
Like it’s so cute
Um Drew said,
“It’s like I finally know what it’s like to have
sisters
It’s like I finally get it
” A that’s
so cute
I mean, and it’s so obvious
I
was kind of laughing because I don’t know how much
you were paying attention during the the Wicked
um promotional tour, but like Cynthia Revo and
Ariana Grande got like so much [ ] for how they were constantly like holding hands and touching each other and loved each other so much And I was like the Angels kind of did that first Actually, they did And I’m sure there was like I’m sure there were people talking [ ] We were just
out
Don’t you remember the SNL Weekend Update
skit where they had like versions of the Angels
that came out and they kept touching each other’s
hair and like showing their butts and Jimmy Fallon
is like We’ll have to link to it
I I think it’s
on YouTube
Remember this
It’s so good
It’s so
good
It’s really funny
One of the rumors about
an onset issue was actually true and it was an
argument between Bill Murray and Lucy Lou over
how the first Towns end agency scene was was
going to go
Um, McGee explained that it was a
passionate conversation reminiscent of a Sunday
night dinner table
Um, and Nancy Javon said that
Bill Murray came into the production kind of late
with all kinds of ideas of how to save it
um
Lucil didn’t agree with some of those ideas and
told him rather forcefully and they argued
So
there was something
And it’s crazy like
how much that story was printed at the time
So
like it obviously leaked at the time, got printed
everywhere
There were a lot of people talking
about it and it still comes up like Lucy just
had to address it in the last few years and it’s
like there’s really not that much to tell there
like he was kind of shitty with her because she
was like a TV actress and like who who are you
And she stood up for herself and everyone walked
away and came back and it was fine
Like right
[ ] happens This probably happens all the time on every movie set But also good for Lucy I like her balls there So um one last thing about the production is at the very end Drew threw a huge rap party at her house This was the house on Cherokee that ended up burning down Um, supposedly it was the best party that anyone had ever been to And in Premiere magazine, it said a thousand people showed up at Barry Moore’s house where there were canvases and paints laid out, four bars, and a game room with air hockey The actress also set up a room where old episodes of Charlie’s Angels played continuously Can totally picture it That’s so cool I love that so much I want to go to a Drew party Hey Drewies We are here to tell you about our website hosts Positive Medium and they sponsor the podcast We’ve been clients of theirs for over 10 years and we use them for all our website needs on the Druzium Their services include customized web design, professional coding, search engine optimization and marketing, plus hosting, which has been huge for us for many years Plus, their incredible customer service has been one of our favorite features They’ve literally saved our site quite a few times, and they always help with minor troubleshooting in a matter of minutes So whether that’s coding issues or back-end questions, etc , We reach out, we get help immediately, which is just invaluable To our listeners, Positive Medium is offering 25% off any managed WordPress hosting plan using our promo code Drew That’s D R Ew Visit our friends over at positivemedium [Music] the movie, y’all Charlie’s Angels I can’t believe we just talked for like an hour and we haven’t even started the movie Well, there’s a lot there’s a lot about this production There’s a lot Now, let’s just have fun Let’s have fun And we’re going to come out wanting to What is it Make out with our girlfriends So, let’s just jump right in Uh let’s jump into the Colombia logo clouds I love that like beginning like immediately you know, oh, this is something different like you don’t normally have the logo and then you go into the clouds of it and it now you’re in an airplane Like such a great idea Um they do this really long extended what looks like a one shot It’s actually three They like point out in the um commentary where they are where the cuts are But I love one shots I’m such a sucker for them I mean they’re they’re so cool They’re just because it’s just you know so much is going on behind the scenes to make it happen and like everybody has to hit their marks, right It’s just so fun Um, and I did want to point out that the very beginning opening song is Blind by Korn and MC G had directed that music video So, that’s kind of fun Um, so then the master Chen Yan Yun, I hope I’m saying that right Um, the he has a cameo as a plane passenger and then we have Shaun Whan who was Drew’s assistant and never been kissed playing a terrorist which is great And uh there was a random nun planted in the plane That was apparently NY’s suggestion She thought a nun in first class was really fun Um okay, so basically you guys know what happens We have L Cool J on the plane and he’s got to get this bomb off the plane and then they skydive It’s like so action-packed right at the beginning Like I love it Right off the bat The actions really starts immediately They’re like jumping out of a plane and less than four minutes into the film there’s an explosion And like then there are several explosions when the like titles come up It’s kind of amazing Yeah, it’s definitely there’s a lot of fire They even used fire on the poster I remember like behind the silhouettes of the angels It was like kind of part of the whole theme So there is some uh really cute bloopers of this, but Drew um takes off the LL CoolJ mask Wait, it’s not really LL CoolJ surprise I’ll just say like I like how when they first show him in the plane, he like pushes on his neck, you know, and I was like I was like thinking about it I’m like, “Okay, it’s it’s obviously actually him ” But it’s funny that they’re like It’s a good little detail Anyway, I also had to note that the mask the mask of El Cool J was created by a famous special effects artist, um, Rob Bin And my boyfriend really wanted me to mention it because he was so impressed that they had this really famous special effects artist Oh, that’s so cool I didn’t know that at all I believe he did The Thing We did like lots of other stuff, but I believe that’s one of them Really good Like I always watch that reveal closely and it’s done extremely well Like I totally You totally buy it Yeah, totally And yeah, it’s it’s adorable Will we get to see Drew’s face for the first time in the movie And we I love her first line Let’s hear it I think you mean crazy [ ] [Laughter] She’s
like, “Surprise
I’m a cute little red head
Not
this big this big dude you thought I was
”
And I just have to say, and we’re going to
say this probably so many times, but each of
the angels, this is when we meet each angel
we get to see their kind of reveal
They all
look so stunning
Like just I know that was
like a big thing for MC G to have them look like
very golden, very lit from within, but wow
These
first three shots you’re just like, okay, so
they’re all unbelievably beautiful goddesses,
right
Like the team did exactly what they were
supposed to do
You said elevated earlier and
it’s totally elevated
Like they are dressed and
made up to look just their best
Then we get this montage, a really fun montage
at the beginning
And some of the segments were
from the first day of shooting at Huntington
Gardens
Um, including the army crawl shot,
which is like just really quick
There’s a lot
of just like flashes
Can you imagine like just
doing costumes for like just a flash so fast
So many like quick snippets of the
angels like in their lives before they joined the
agency
Um, we, as we mentioned before, there’s
Drew being like the rebel girl in the bathroom
smoking
I feel like I remember that cast that
she’s wearing being auctioned off
Does that sound
familiar to you
I’ll have to
look into it because I do also remember the the
muffin prop being auctioned
That’s funny
Yeah,
very funny
That’s really funny
Where where
are all the other costumes and props
Um,
we’ll talk about a little costume stuff later
We
know where some of them are
I love that
just in this little um montage, Drew gets to show
off that she can like cross and roll her eyes in,
you know, like in a very like, you know, she can
really has control of her eyes and it’s in the
scene with the drill instructor and I just I just
love it
I’ve always loved that for some reason
It’s really good
Just shows her like I don’t
know, the comedy in her, you know
Our little ham
Um,
another thing I wanted to note is that they
show the angels reading a newspaper that says
mystery women save Mount Rushmore
And um,
Drew had that prop framed in her Flower
Films office
At least she did in 2001,
which I think is really neat
I’m totally here for
that
I love that little tidbit
I also love
there’s this super quick like you’d probably I
mean I think nowadays it’s you’d know what it is,
but at the time you’d have to have read the books
There’s Drew, Drew’s character being like Harry
Potter, like in disguise
It’s the invisibility
cloak scene where he like puts on the cloak and
goes to the library um into like the forbidden
books or something like that
And it’s crazy
because so this is a full year before the first
Harry Potter movie even came out
But that’s wild
The shot that they do in the movie is so similar
to the one in Charlie’s Angels
It’s like kind of
weird
They just took it from Charlie’s Angels
like the angle and everything
I’m like, “Wow,
she really knew what that scene looked like in
the book
” That is really weird
Please put that
in the gallery because I think people should
see the comparison
That is so It blows my mind
that it’s before the first movie came out
Because like the only reason why I have an image
of Harry Potter in my mind at the time I wouldn’t
have known
I just remember like hearing
about it like she really liked the book and so she
thought that’d be fun to throw in there
Um, one one other thing about
this quick little 5-second montage that we’re like
still talking about
It’s great though
I just
think this is so funny
So, I was watching the
like behind the scenes footage of like the very
last part where they jump and it like goes into
the title card and um it was clearly filmed at
Universal Studios because in the background you
can see the Grinch sets which would have been
like filming at the same time because the movie
was released two weeks after Charlie’s Angels
Remember they had those sets there forever though
on the tour
You could definitely
see them
Is that what it’s called
That’s really funny
Really magic
I love stuff like that
Like just
like what’s right next door
Like what’s on the
other side of the camera that you have no idea,
right
It’s like behind the scenes why we love
it so much
So now we get the Chad,
his boat
This is Tom Green
It opens up with Drew
looking super sexy and then she gets up and her
lipstick is like smeared all over her face and
her hair is insane
It’s just perfect
It’s so
like over the top
There’s like water dripping on
her leg and it’s pans up over her hip and you can
see that she’s nude under the sheet
Like it’s
just like so funny
It’s so great and it sets
the scene
It sets the tone for that character in
a way
and the Chad’s character because uh
right off the bat he’s a little he’s a little
weird
Is it the Chad
It might be the Chad
[Applause] Starfish
And then what is he
He says it was the Chad
like a bunch of times and then jumps and then he
throws his food in the water and falls
I wouldn’t even call it jump
It’s more of a like
slow tilt, right
And and I feel like I feel like
that was improvised
I don’t know why
So,
that’s so funny that you said that
In the
commentary, MC G says that he and Tom pretty
much came up with that idea on the spot
and it got MC G in a lot of trouble
Oh,
like probably I don’t know, insurance
Who
knows like what the reasoning, right
Because
they didn’t they hadn’t planned to have him
jump in the water
Oh my goodness
Oh,
that’s so funny
It was worth it
I mean,
it’s I mean, it’s so funny
The little bit of him,
it’s just enough to get like the full Tom Green
I told you in our text yesterday, I’m like,
I should be annoyed by him, but I can’t
I’m
sitting over here just laughing so hard
He’s
so weird
He’s so weird
And somehow, yeah,
somehow he got us
Um, so my recollection is
that this was the scene that was being filmed when
our grapevine drew friend Venus like found out and
got to like basically like wait by the side of
the road and meet Drew, right
Do you kind of
remember it being this one too
Because I feel
like it was like a harbor the harbor thing
Like
that’s what I remember
It doesn’t really matter
It was definitely on the side of the movie
Let’s
just say that, right
And I’ll just tell this like
really quick story
I reached out to Venus because
I saw her pop up on my Instagram feed and I was
just like, “Hey, we’re about to mention you on
the podcast
” Um, so one of the coolest things
is that she told Drew about the message board
And I think she had Drew sign something
that had like pictures of us on there
I
think she made this like poster board and she
put like all of our names around it which was
so considerate like right so thoughtful and Drew
wrote to the grapevine all my love and beautiful
energy
I’ll never forget it
I’m not reading it
right now
I just remember it
I remember reading
reading her story and seeing that picture on the
on the message board and like sobbing because it
was just like it was so touching
I probably
thought at the time it was the closest a Drew
I’d ever get
So, Venus, I have a little
like just a little snippet she said because I just
love the way like her perspective
She
said, um, seeing an SUV stop in front of us,
the window rolled down and seeing it was actually
Drew driving
We didn’t have the internet or
socials like we do now where we see a glimpse into
our favorite celebrities lives
So, seeing this in
real life and her wearing cozy clothes and a day
of action-packed filming hair made her so adorably
a real human person
Oh, I do remember she’s
wearing like her Uggs and like sweats, of course
Yeah, it’s so cool
So, so neat
Anyway, we had to
mention that because that Well, this all just kind
of um solidifies or is a very perfect example of
how in it the team was
The team being us,
the drooies on the grapevine
And we have
like I have a horrible teenytiny printed version
of that picture of Venus and the poster board
And hopefully Venus can get us and Drew obviously
And hopefully Venus could hook us up with a better
version because I I would really like to share it
I And I want to see it again bigger
Yeah, I do
too
Like I I can picture it
So I must have
it either in my mind’s eye or saved somewhere
All right, let’s get back into the movie
So,
we get like the also the sequences of Natalie and
Alex like doing their things and in the morning
and getting the calls to come into the agency and
then that’s where we end up at the Townsen Agency
to find out about their new case
Um, I thought
this was interesting
The prop department believes
that they got the original speaker or probably
not the probably one of the original speakers
from the TV show
And it does have like a very
beat up scratch look to it
So I I buy it
Like
I don’t think there was one throughout the entire
show and this is the one
Maybe that’s why it’s
like we believe cuz maybe there were so many that
like they don’t even know which ones were actually
on the air at this point
I don’t know
But
that’s fun
Um, we immediately get to see
Drew’s very random the spiral curls that are mixed
in throughout her hair and they totally recreated
that for the Barbie doll version of her
That’s
funny
Um, and I just again her perfect red lips
in this first part
Like perfection
I think
I have a memory that this was Jillian Frink
Dempsey’s line, Deluxe Beauty, and it was the
Clovis red lipstick, but I have not been able
to confirm that
So, just putting out there, it
may have been, and I could be also totally wrong
Yeah, how do you confirm that
Ask Jillian
Yeah, right
I have been reaching out to her
hoping she’ll come on the show, but no response
yet
That would be cool
That’d be way cool
Um, I noticed that uh Natalie is reading a
book that says it’s called Music of the Birds,
which I think is kind of fun because it’s like
laying the groundwork for later on where she
can understand bird calls supposedly
Yeah, we’ll
talk about that
More on that
More on that
Um,
I love that tidbit
I did not notice that
Yeah,
I was watching a very high quality version of
this movie where I could see things that maybe I
normally hadn’t
So, Alex, you know, she’s like
trying to be I guess in the book, aka probably
the script, she really loves Martha Stewart,
so she’s trying to be like a homemaker
That’s
why she’s always like cooking and stuff for
her boyfriend
Um, so she makes muffins
and apparently they’re horrible
And I always
love Drew’s delivery
She smells it and just
very like under her breath goes, “Oh my god
Like I can’t even pull the audio because it’s so
subtle, but it’s so good
And then pretty quickly
she decides she wants to throw one of these hard
apparently smelly muffins at um Natalie and she
does this little like tongue waggle that is like
so funny and silly
Um and
this is the scene that caused that Bill Murray
Lucil fight
And it’s kind of a weird like the
dialogue is a little weird in this scene
So,
I could see how there would be like discussions
about it because he’s like saying that whole
thing about the heart being a muscle
I mean,
it’s funny, but it’s also there it’s never landed
for me
I’ll be honest
That’s interesting
But none of that matters because then the
phone rings and we get the iconic moment
Good morning, angels
Good morning, Charlie
You got to have that moment
You got to have
that moment
And they it’s just a beautiful a
beautiful homage
I mean the whole thing
is the whole thing is but that and the fact that
it’s actually John Foresight is the coolest
It’s the coolest
So Charlie’s going to
tell them about their new assignment for this
uh tech billionaire guy who got kidnapped
And the tech billionaire that’s Sam Rockwell
Um I always love Drew’s like not Drew I guess
Dylan’s little smirk when she sees him
Hugans,
you can see they’re planting that she thinks he’s
cute
Like it’s like she just gives really again
subtly really well done
Um and then
their client is uh Knox, his name is Eric Knox,
his partner, and her name is Vivian Wood
And I
know like with hindsight at the end of the movie,
you know that her character is like faking this
whole thing
So, I’m I want to like hope
that Kelly Lynch was intentionally delivering
her line so phony here
Like when she’s like,
I know he’s still alive
I’m like, I’m not buying
it
And you know, right off the bat, props to
Natalie
She’s like, she did it
Like she knew
Right as she’s walking in
She calls
it at the beginning
That’s how like wise they
are
That’s how um wise is not the word I want
Uh
uh savvy
That’s the perfect word
That’s
how savvy they are
So then we just I
just have to mention this
So there’s like this
spa
Apparently it’s called Madam Wong’s House
of Blossoms
Um and the angel I like that you’re
like, “What is this
” And I’m like, “Hello,
it’s Madam Wong’s House of Blossoms
” So um
Tim Curry is there and they need to like get is it
his fingerprints at this point
I can’t remember
No, they’re getting his uh like his PDA
They they
download that and they get his car key imprint in
that cool little compact
I love that little Oh,
that’s right
I can imagine the sound
of that thing closing and it’s really satisfying
I love it, too
Why is that
That’s so weird
Anyway, so the angels are dawn in full Asian
appropriation
Like full uh pretty bad
I always
love Drew in a dark wig
I hate that
I’ve always loved these pictures because I’m like
she’s so beautiful and then like in the year 2025
I’m like appropriate
I should have done that,
right
Um I mean I I said I always love her in a
dark wig
What I meant was I always love her with
dark hair
It doesn’t have to be a wig
It doesn’t
have to be a wig
And then this movie is like boom
boom boom
Like the picture book thing is totally
happening
The pages are flipping
the angels are
going to get some food because it was like a real
point that which is so funny like that just tells
you what where we are at in society
This was
printed everywhere
The angels are going to be
enjoying food like they’re going to really eat
like real food and it was like such a thing like
I don’t know
It’s just so funny
I don’t they
don’t even ever show them eating which is like No,
they don’t
But we get the order
May I take your
order, please
I’d like three cheeseburgers,
three French fries, and three cherry pies
What do
you guys want
[Laughter] And then I love that we
get that classic little Drew air guitar when like,
who wants to go to a party and that brings out
that goofy side of her
This
was like day two or three of filming and it was
done at Fosters Freeze in Torrance, California
And Ann and I were lucky enough to go there once
and it was pretty cool
We have pictures on the
drizz
comloations if you want to check those out
It’s not nearly as like bright and colorful and
graphic as it looks in the movie
But it makes the perfect It’s like perfect
I
don’t even know what type of car that is
Maybe
like a Challenger
It’s a Camaro
I’m
pretty sure it was mentioned a million times in
my research, so I feel pretty good about that
And is that what they went to
The pre No, I’m
thinking of Full Throttle
the full throttle
Full
throttle premier
So,
Corwin’s party
This is Tim Curry’s character
So,
at this point, they think they’re like basically
investigating him
We should probably also mention
the appropriation that his character does
He has
like a whole Japanese fetish
Like his house is
like shipped over from Japan
Like everything
is themed to Japan
It’s It’s a strange little
like character trait
I mean, I guess
people get obsessed with cultures that are not
their own
I don’t know
I’ve always loved
how glam Drew is in this scene
She looks so hot
like immediately walking out of the elevator
So
beautiful
And like this is what another thing of
just like where we were at in society
Her waist
is so itty bitty teeny tiny in this scene
And
somehow the media was constantly telling us that
she was like a bigger actress back then
Like
she’s tiny
She’s beautiful
at any size
But anyway, um I always loved when
Bosley like taps a waitress on the shoulder, ends
up being Natalie and he’s like, “Oh
” And she like
she so cute how she’s like she like holds like a
little like straight face when she looks at Tim
Curry’s character
It’s so cute
This there’s so
much charisma
I love Cameron Diaz in this movie
I don’t think we said it enough
She her
smile just she’s amazing at this
She’s adorable
She’s so cute
Yeah, she’s completely lovable
And
then Lucy is such a like great dead pan hilarious
actress in this
I fully remember me and my
friends being in the audience like screaming
with laughter at the parts with Lucy where like
the random guy is coming up to her and she’s just
like, “No, no
” And then of course the flip your
goddamn hair
Like we were dying laughing
She’s
so good
Um, all right
So then
there’s a really cute exchange between the angels
when they’re encouraging Natalie to talk to Luke
Wilson’s character, Pete
It’s so cute and funny
I remember thinking at that time, weird
to have Drew encouraging someone, like I think you
said earlier, someone to flirt with her ex
It’s so cute
It’s just perfect
like you know
wingman type stuff
It’s really good
Um there is a deleted scene
So like originally
when Corwin is like challenging Bosley it like
oh can you you know oh you ate this blowfish now
let’s see if you can do this
They went into like
this Marco Polo game in Corwin’s Grotto with like
a bunch of girls and it’s like and then when he
lost that he challenged him to the sumo wrestling
I’m glad they cut it
It’s like unnecessary and
again very silly
All right, then we get into
the first like fight scene of the movie
They spot
the thin man and it’s got this amazing soundtrack
under it, guys
It’s perfect
Smack my [ ] up by the prodigy I love this moment It’s so great Like this is like I literally get like goosebumps I’m like, “This is when [ ] gets
real
” And like all that training they did, we get
to see it pay off and they look so incredible and
it’s just like the music really adds to it
Like
I think that’s one of MC G’s like specialties
I would say and probably Drew as well cuz we
know she’s really good at putting music into
her productions
It just like brings up the scene
so much
Speaking of elevating, yeah, that
raw footage that you can see on the DVD of this
scene where like all the wires are still there,
the music isn’t there, and like it changes the
tone incredibly
It’s It’s really awkward without
the Yeah, it’s so awkward
Um, one other thing I
want to mention about this scene, because you know
how I am about like false information
It’s like
the number one thing to get me heated and mad
Ever since like day one of this movie, there has
been this prevailing movie mistake internet rumor
that Drew accidentally says loose, like Lucy
And
it’s so clearly Lucy saying brace when they’re
like putting their hands together so that Natalie
can jump
That’s like I found it again
Like I searched came right up
I’m like wrong
So, just, you know, officially setting the record
straight on that one
But this this fight
scene is just it’s so good
It’s really good
Um,
it would be really funny to see footage of Crisp
and Glover studying with the master
Yeah, because
like he does a lot in this movie
Like the end
scene again, he’s fighting with Lucy
He’s like
bringing it and I’m like, what was that like that
training session
Like he’s so intense
He must
have like done it separately
He’s a quirky guy,
right
I mean, yeah, that’s why I can’t imagine
him like doing the training
It’s so funny, right
Um Nick G said that he tried to get the angels to
amped up to be as macho as possible and you know
like the whole running and everything
He’s just
like, “Yeah, yeah, you can imagine
” Yeah, I can
totally imagine it
Um I think actually in that
footage you hear him say like at the beginning,
right
Doesn’t he say I believe it like Drew I
don’t I don’t remember
Um I forgot
that this is how they end up getting led to
um Knox and Ralo’s character being tied up
Like
I didn’t remember that chain of events
Even when they reveal that it’s like
Knox and Dylan’s like Knox
Even there she’s
kind of like hi
Um, and I will
say, so the next scene they’re like with Knox and
Vivian at the agency and they’re like planning
the next steps and I remember the first time I
saw it being like, wait a minute, does she like
think this dork is cute
What is going on here
Like I did not get the appeal, which is so funny
cuz I think he’s so like now I’m like, hell yeah,
Sam Rockwell
But at the time it wasn’t doing it
for me
I don’t No, it’s about his his like vibe
like getting it like seeing him act in multiple
things and then seeing like him interviewed and
seeing how freaking cool he is
He is one of those
like personality makes him even more attractive,
guys
So, now we’re at the racetrack and this
was filmed at the California Speedway in Fontana,
which is my hometown
And I was living there
at the time
Um I have a newspaper clipping about
this
Um, and it has a picture of the car flipping
through the intersection
So, it’s not actually
from the speedway itself, but right outside of
it
Wasn’t it on Cherry
Why do I remember
that
Is that the name of the street
I was actually just going to say that
And
it’s that’s it’s probably I’m going to guess it’s
maybe like five miles from my parents house,
maybe less
Were you just dying when you
knew that it was filmed there
Do you remember
I
remember being like, why didn’t I know yesterday
you know, like that she was there
Yeah, that would have killed me
Um, they ended up
making this like a trial race in the movie with
no spectators in the stands for like studio and
budgetary reasons
Originally, they were going
to make it like a major race with the stands
just totally full and then the studio was like,
“Yeah, that’s not happening
” And they’re like,
“Okay, I guess cuz they’d probably have to it
actually had to be like filled with extras
Like,
what would they do
” Like, yeah, that’s that was
the plan
That is wild
Um, I thought this
was interesting
I do not remember this tidbit
and it actually came up twice in my research
Oh,
so Drew is wearing this platinum blonde wig and
she, you know, Alex is like, “Do your thing
“
And she gets into Corwin’s car with his driver to
try to like distract him
Um, and apparently she
was going for Seikka Energy
And Seikka was
a 70s8s adult film actress
And I couldn’t
find that much about her or like even that many
photos of her where I was like, “Yeah, I see it
“
But I I dropped this one in here
But I was like,
that is so random
Like what a what a vague little
pull
But I guess that was just her vibe
That was
probably in her mood board
And in this picture,
because of the platinum blonde, you see it
immediately
And I don’t know anything about
her actual vibe, though
You know, like um MC G
says in the commentary that she was wasn’t exactly
known for her Shakespearean qualities, whatever
that means
I think that probably means
she came across as like kind of ditzy and airy,
you know, sort of like Drew’s being in the scene,
right
Did you say who the driver is
So, the driver in this scene in Corwin’s
uh car is Andrew Wilson, Luke’s brother
Um, and
this is the second of Five Flower Films roles
that he did
So, he’s in Never Been Kissed
He’s
the like security guard
Is that what he is
Um,
what is he in
Full Throttle
He’s like a cop at
the like the CSI kind of crime scene scene
Oh,
yes, of course
Um and then he’s in um I’m also
blinking on Fever Pitch right now
He’s the
like d the other guy
Oh, see why am I so Because
it doesn’t feel like him in that movie
You know
what
He feels really different in all of these
cuz the last one you list here is Whip It and
he’s the he’s the coach
His best one and that’s
so great
Yeah, I love him in Whip It and he gets
he gets the most the most in that one
Everything
else he’s just kind of like little things and then
he got like a full role
Yeah, they definitely
at some point called him like Flower Film’s lucky
charm
It’s just so cute
A It’s so cute
Um the
director of photography, Russell Carpenter, said
that he didn’t usually operate his own camera,
but in this scene, he felt compelled to get the
close-ups of Drew in the car
He doesn’t
like laugh about it or anything, but I’m like,
well, this clearly cuz she’s looking so hot
Um, this is interesting
though
So, the shots of Drew, like there’s one
angle focusing more on Drew and then another
angle focusing more on Andrew
They were shot
on different days in different locations because
they ran out of time at the raceway
And MC G
is like telling Russell like he’s so impressed
with how well he matched it because you can’t
tell
Like I was looking really closely and you
cannot tell
And it’s so believable
Drew’s
character, Dylan, is supposed to be distracting
him with her like absolute hotness
She looks
amazing
It’s totally believable
I love cars
Do you like fast cars
I like fast everything
She licks the steering wheel
His
little Oh my god
I think it was also fun to
see her be like overtly sexy
Like, you know,
she’s like im immediately like it’s hot in
here
And like speaking of plunging necklines
How are her boobs staying up like that
They’re amazing, right
And the the neckline
goes like to her like belly basically
Um,
and then apparently the shots, so Natalie sees the
Finn man in a race car
She drives after him and
the shots of Drew and Lucy that are like talking
to her, um, were also shot in the studio parking
lot because they ran out of time
Yeah, it’s just
so funny to know those little things
Um,
and then I love that you noted this
So, they’re
in my hometown Fontana and then within like
seconds they’re at the a bridge in Long Beach
Movie magic
That probably takes I don’t
know an hour, 45 minutes on a great day
So,
we get this quick little scene where they’re
planning on how they’re going to infiltrate
Red Star
They’ve decided that Corwin’s Red
Star is like behind the kidnapping and they’re
going to find out about how the security works
there
It’s just really fun
Um, and I noticed
that Drew is wearing the outfit that she ended
up wearing to the Blockbuster Awards in 2000
We had already known that she had to go
straight from the set of the film in a helicopter
to make it on time
And I like remember knowing
that that outfit was in the movie and then I
thought it was a different scene and I was like,
“Oh, I’m wrong that it’s not in the movie
” And
then when I watched and saw it here, I was like,
“Ah, I was right
It is in the movie
” That’s so
funny
I’m I’m guessing she probably just like
went in her makeup and everything
The Yeah,
they changed her hair
But it’s so fun
Oh,
then they probably changed her makeup, too
Um,
of course we get more cultural appropriation
Oh, this one’s even worse
Yeah, it’s part of
the plan to um to get into Red Star and they’re
belly dancers in this one
Um, but again,
it’s fun to see Drew in a disguise
Yeah, but not
so fun to see the brown face makeup, right
Oh,
that was so unnecessary
The year
2000
And that was the fingerprints, I think
Um, I love the scene following that where
she’s in the lab
She looks so pretty
Like I’ve always loved how she looks there
And
the lighting is like blue or green or something
It’s really It’s really cool
It’s very sciency
There’s like like beakers and bubbling stuff
I’m like, “Okay, sure
” Speaking of disguises,
we get the Swiss girls outfits
It’s all like
again like really fast
Boom boom boom boom boom
boom
[Music] My stinking box is sexy
[Music]
I’d love to know what she’s saying there
The music is giving me matter horn,
by the way
I like did never have noticed
until just now
And the singing
is so not their voices
Not even close
But I love it
I love those outfits so much
I love the pictures of them on the set in
those move in those outfits
Um, all right
So,
now they are uh an infiltrating red star
So,
they’ve gotten the things they need
and we’re going in
Insert barracuda
[Music]
Okay
Um, and this is so this is so great
because one of the disguises is Drew dressed as
a man and Cameron is as well
We love this
It cracks us up so much
I’m laughing already
just like little man Drew
Like why is it
she doesn’t even look like herself
It’s
crazy how like like Cameron still looks like
Cameron
Drew does not look like herself
Um,
I found this weird little snippet that said
supposedly this day after filming, she stayed
in the boy drag to like surprise Tom for dinner at
Muso and Frank, but Tom came dressed as a nun
So,
like, where are the photos of this
I’m having
a hard time believing this happened
I believe that she went, but that he was dressed
as a nun at the same time
I don’t know
I mean,
he is kooky
Those wacky two in that relationship
always up in the stakes, right
So,
there is a small appearance by Melissa McCarthy
really early in her filmography, which is cool
Um, and she also has a cameo in the sequel
So,
yeah, the same scene as um Andrew Wilson
Yeah, it’s just fun
Again, it’s one of
those like flower films or maybe we I give this
to Justine and Kim where it’s just like somebody
so early before their stardom like in one of their
movies
It happens a lot
It’s really cool, right
Um Lucy, again, this was another scene where she
was just killing me and my friends
She’s so good
in this scene
My favorite line is, “Who else has
an idea like this man’s Coke machine
” And then
they all raise their hands
It is really funny
the crowd like going behind her as they distract
the entire office while they’re while the other
angels are breaking in
There’s apparently
a deleted scene of Dylan, Natalie, and Corwin in
the bathroom
And the set was designed to look
exactly like the bathroom in The Shining
Like,
that is rad
It looks exactly like it
Like, it really does
That’s cool
It also makes
me sad they like went to all that trouble
and then it didn’t make it into the movie
Yeah, I know
Hey, at least they apparently took a
snippet of it and used it for the opening montage
of Full Throttle
That’s funny
Yeah, that’s
what I remember
Anyway, I hope that’s right
I’m
pretty sure it is
Um, I loved having more footage
of little Drew, even though this scene like it’s
not good
Um, she does this little like adorable,
hilarious dance in the deleted scene that I think
is very similar to the one that’s at the end
end the blooper end
Yeah, she’s just like loving
being this little man
There was
actually also a part in the footage like behind
the scenes where probably MC G says something
like ladies and she’s like excuse me and they’re
like she he’s like sorry men or whatever
Her and
Cameron just totally hamming it up
It’s so good
That’s funny
All right, so the next scene that
comes up Dylan goes to Knox’s
And I think this
was originally going to come earlier in the movie
before they made some changes
It was going to
happen before the racetrack scene, but she’s there
to like, you know, set up security at his house
Um, I love that they use Spandal Ballet’s True
because I immediately think of the wedding singer
and me too
Robbie and Julie
Apparently,
it’s in duplex as well
I don’t remember that,
but I found that in my research
I’m like, is this
just a mo a song that Drew loves or what
Um,
I just made a note again like she looks beautiful
and like do I need to keep saying this
Like I
know probably not
She does though
It’s hard
not to make notes about it, right
Drew and
Sam’s first Scrabble fun is in this scene
And two
years later in Confessions of a Dangerous Mind,
there’s a Scrabble scene
Why is it make me
They’re so cute together
And Nick G said it to us
because we had just watched the movie together in
the theater
And I forget even how he said it
I
think he said like, “Oh, it was so fun to see Drew
and Sam play on screen playing Scrabble again
” Or
I I feel like it had to have been intentional
Like that can’t be a coincidence, right
Like
I don’t know
I don’t know
Maybe George
Clooney was like, “What game should you guys be
playing
” And they were like, “Oh, let’s do
Scrabble Off
” Because we had a whole thing
about them in Charlie’s Angels
I don’t know
I
like to think that
It’s It’s really cute
And I think you started to say they’re so cute in
that scene
Well, in both like I just
love how Drew she she has great chemistry with
him in both those movies
Um
not so cute is the like additional footage that
they were going to have on this scene
It’s so
awkward
I can’t It’s hard for me to even watch
It’s It’s really bad
It probably didn’t have the
like right music in it
Basically, the original
idea was this was going to come earlier in the
film and Dylan was going to cut this little moment
short, like she was gonna maybe kiss with him a
little and then be like, “No, no, no
You’re a
client
I got to go
” And and she like leaves
and they ended up she ends up coming back later
at a different day, but they took that out
So,
it looks like this is like she stays the night
I like the way they cut it in the movie cuz she
just goes to I want to shake and then it’s like,
you know, it’s implied
We don’t get this awkward
like dancing and Yeah
It’s so bad
And being
thrown on the counter
But there
was a deleted scene where apparently she’s back
at Nox’s for some action
Um it’s not on the DVD,
but it’s shown in the TV trailer
It was pointed
out to us by Charlie’s Three Sexy Sleuths
So,
thank you for noticing that
It’s a friend Marcus
I love it’s like a super fast brief flash of Drew
and Sam kissing and Drew is wearing this sparkly
sweater that we’ve seen photos of her in or maybe
a photo that’s not in the movie
Um, so in the
novelization, which they base it on the script
that they explain what happens here, like she goes
back over to his house and she like is like, “Hi,
hi
” And they’re like, “And then they make out
and then she ends up like staying there
” And then
that’s when we pick up later where she’s like in
his bed
So again, easy to pull it out and not use
it, but I would love to see it one day
We know it
exists, right
So, the next few scenes are without
Drew because that deleted scene we just mentioned
of her at Nox’s would have like gone in to the
middle of all this, but it’s of the other angels
and Bosley like doing their thing, but then they
all start getting attacked
So, Natalie and Pete
are on a date at Soul Train
I love these scenes
so much
It’s so cute
Why Luke is so cute in this
scene
Like I love all his stuff with the bouncers
and he’s like trying to warm up to them and he’s
like cheering her on as she’s dancing
All right,
the robot
Yeah, I like how they make him like
a full foot shorter than them, too
These guys
have got to be standing on apple boxes
Like
there’s no way they’re that big
Um I also love
how this is what I’m talking about
Like Cameron
can go
She’s like so goofy and silly in this
scene
She like tells him, “I have to go number
one
” And then she’s like in the bathroom like,
“Oh my god, I’m having so much fun
” And then
she gets attacked and she’s like turns into such
a badass
Like I love her freaking like stiletto
boot in the guy’s freaking throat and she’s like,
“Who sent you
” It’s like just amazing
There’s
always this quick swap
She does it again
later in the movie, you know, when she’s talking
to Pete and she gets attacked from the guys that
are guarding Bosley and she like goes back
and forth
that she’s just flawless
You seem
like you’re a little preoccupied or whatever he
says
It’s so funny
All right,
so um Alex is now at Jason’s movie set
Um why
did we always love this so much
I don’t know
why
Cuz it’s just so silly
So yeah, they’re like
sitting at a table in like a courtyard and Oh,
so you think you think it’s Alex
He’s actually
filming the movie within a movie
like his date
gets killed
It’s just part of the movie
That’s
right
It’s a pretty I remember being tricked by
it the first time I saw it
And then he says this
line, “Baby, God, no
Damn you, Salazar
Damn you,
Salazar
God, damn you, Salazar has just like
become part of our vocabulary
It’s just so good
“
The director in this scene is totally like doing
a McGee and says that was the best scene in the
best movie ever
He’s even dressed like him
Like
he It’s probably his actual cowboy hat
Like they
they look the same
It’s so great
That is really
funny
Maybe it’s just him
It could be
It sounds
a little like him
It could be
Um and then
like we just see what’s going on with the other
characters
So we we found out through Natalie’s
attack that Vivien Wood is behind this attack
Um,
we didn’t even mention that Alex also gets
attacked
Like, she gets completely shot at
in Jason’s trailer, but you know, she survives,
of course, by hanging on the ceiling
And then
Viven goes to Bosley and drugs his drink and
the creepy thin man kills Corwin
So, all this
shit’s going down like boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom
And we’re not seeing Dylan because she’s
getting it on with Knox, I guess, right
So, then
we get the reveal of this villain
Um, so, um,
Dylan so cute tied up in her sheet as a dress like
toga
I think he says like toga cute or something
It’s so like it’s so perfect
I’m like there
is no way that’s a real sheet, right
And then
she see she like gives him a kiss and then sees
that there’s somebody there and it’s Vivian
She
spins around in the chair
Um, and then I love
this is so cute
Um, she sits down in front of
the Scrabble board that’s right in front of her
and spells out enemy because she kind of thinks
that they’re not in cahoots, but guess what
And what the funny part is that they didn’t think
it would read on screen, so they did this like
voice over of Drew going enemy
It is so goofy
And then he says, I know
Oh, and this like your
stomach just drops for poor Dylan cuz guess what
guys
Time to put on Got to Give It Up
And
Knox is the bad guy
And that transition,
that turn where he goes from this like dorky goof
lovable guy to this [ ] evil [ ] is so good
That’s like, this is why you need Sam Rockwell
for this part because he pulls it off
It’s like
a whole different person all of the sudden
Like
he literally like takes off his shirt and pulls
out a cigarette and you’re like, “Uh, what
Who
is this
” Like, “Oh my god, it’s so good
Props
to him
” Yeah, totally
And of course, Dylan
is really pissed cuz she’s been she’s been
um duped
Yeah, she’s been duped
and she’s,
you know, she’s a crimefighting angel that’s
supposed to kind of be, I don’t know, judge
of character
Anyways, yeah, it’s Oh, and she
carries that like pissed offness for the rest of
the movie
Like, you’re right
She’s really good
at having this like [ ] you energy after what he did to her I want to see her do a whole movie in the [ ] you energy, I guess
So, she gets shot out his window,
but she’s not shot
The window just crashes and
she like gets she’s dangling down with her toga,
then falls down completely naked onto a hill
I
like how you said the the audio of her falling and
it once you ma made a note of that, I noticed it’s
really funny
She’s like, it is funny
Um,
but she falls into the backyard of the ET house,
which is such a fun thing
It’s so fun
Like,
so unnecessary, but just to have it there as
this cute little Easter egg
I absolutely love
it
I also love that the house still had the
same owners as it did in 1982
And so,
so cool
And Drew on being at the house
again, she said, “It was like checking
into that world that I remember so well
And it it’s a little over the top,
but in the shot they have like an ET poster on
the wall and there’s Reese’s pieces and a bowl
It’s a little much, but it’s cute
Um, and we get our naked Dylan at the window
These little boys are playing video games
and she uh knocks on the window and says,
“A little help
“
She’s wearing nothing but a pool floaty
really
cute
And we get a little butterfly tattoo peek
We love a tattoo peek as you guys know
And also
I have to shout out one of the best Drew related
costumes I have ever seen was a guy dressed as
Dylan naked with the pool floaty and I will link
to that and put the photo in our gallery and I’ll
give them credit cuz so creative and amazing
It’s
so funny
And I I think niche costumes
like that are also like we are like the audience
if we get it, you know, like that’s that’s so
great
Um this part I don’t know why it always
made us laugh so much
Um the agency explodes
Bosley’s locked up
That’s not funny
But Drew
rides up on a bike looking so pissed
Like
you said, she keeps that piss thing going
clearly wearing the young boy’s clothes who just
gave her a little bit of help on his motorbike
I’m sure that little motorbike and her expression
is just so funny and the motorbike is like
Yeah, I love her postoff face there
Why do we
love Angry Drew so much
She’s just so cute
It’s
so cute
Um, Nick G said something along
the lines of like he wanted this explosion of
the agency to be so loud and huge that they
would never be allowed to film on Universal
again
Like they were gonna piss people off that
much
He’s got to have the biggest thing ever
Um, and we’re like interspersing with Bosley
locked up in this tower
And I I credit to Bill
Murray because him just kind of like doing
his thing, riffing, improvising
I’m sure
it’s all really hilarious stuff
It’s so funny
actually the way they get them connected
Yeah,
it’s really good
He’s got like his old moler
mic
Yeah, that’s right
That’s from the Corwin
party that he realizes is still in his mouth
The
angels just happen to be right around town’s an
agency at the time that he is trying to speak to
them and he calls to them
Hello angels, can you
hear me
They hear him
I always love uh just real
quick when they’re like Drew like lifts something
to like get to the speaker
She does a really good
like reacting like it’s hot like oh she does some
real good subtle stuff in this movie
She’s like
ah through that mic
Natalie hears the sound of
a bird like you said
There’s that thing earlier
She’s reading that book and she identifies it as
a pygmy nut hatch
Pygmy nuthatch
And there’s
there’s this whole article on Slate where they
uncover the make, model, and sound of the bird,
which I think is so funny to describe it like
that
Like it’s a car
It is so good
Like
the subtitle is the story behind cinema’s most
mysterious bird
Like the author is a total nerd
like us, loves these like tiny tidbits, and was
like, “Why did they use the name Pygmy Nuthatch
when the sound of the bird is wrong and the look
of the bird is wrong
” You guys, we will link to
this article
Our friend Tess was the one who told
us about it
I loved it so much and it like went
kind of viral because it is so like random
It’s
so silly and it’s so well researched
Like it was
totally up our alley
So that tells them
where where to go
She’s Natalie’s like, “They
only live in one place, Carell
” So then they’re
going there and on their way they they show the
um this famous green tunnel in LA that’s used so
much for filming
I couldn’t remember what it
was called, but it’s in so many things
Like
the first thing I think of there, it’s an Incubus
video that has it, but it’s in a bunch of stuff
It’s called The Second Street Tunnel
And
it is in so many movies and music videos
Like
I can’t even begin to list them all
Um like they
don’t even mention the Incubus one
And I know for
sure it’s in one of those
Um but yeah,
look it up
Second Street Tunnel
Just famous
filming location
They actually don’t
even mention Charlie’s Angels in here
Come on,
Wicked
What the hell
There’s just too many
I
also forgot that they get to Carmel by calling up
Chad
How could you forget
But I think
it’s so cute
Uh Drew and Tom singing together in
the boat
their little like offkey singing
This
is the first Josie Grossy moment
So like when the
angels look at her like, “Why are you singing
with this guy
” She does this like awkward
little shrug lip bite
I’m like, “Uh, Josie
Grossy just popped out
Um,
and then when the angels are about to dive into
the water, uh, they’re, you know, they’re getting
ready to go and do their thing
There’s business
that needs to happen
Here’s the dialogue
Starfish, are you going swimming
Where are
you going
Where are you going again, Starfish
Was it the Chad
No, the Chad was great
Also, why does he
call her that
Never never mentioned
We never get
an explanation, but it’s good
Do you remember
uh when Flower Beauty released that palette
that was like Charlie’s Angels inspired
of eyeshadows and one of them was called
Starfish and one of them was called the Chad
I
don’t think I noticed that
That’s Or if I did,
I totally blanked on it
Yeah,
that’d be you
And this timeline is
when tomgreen
com basically was like a blog
of their life and there were pictures of this
day on tom green
Tons of them
They’re
really cool
Like we would never have these
otherwise
I think he did like maybe it was
like daily photo or something
But like there
were a bunch from this filming
So we’ll share
a couple of those with you guys
That was so
cool
I love that we have to talk
about Sam Rockwell dancing because that’s a
thing that he insists on always doing because
he’s real cool at it
My note is hell yeah
All the angels change out of their scuba gear
basically into these completely other outfits
Where do they get them from
Out of the ether
Um and the outfit that Drew puts on um we have a
version in the Drew of
We have the stunt doubles
and it’s very uh recognizable
Like it’s really
fun to see it
They used it um when we were on
the Drew Barrymore show and we brought a bunch
of our memorabilia
They used that one
Like part
of me was like, “But Drew didn’t wear that one
Don’t put that one on the stage
” But but when
you see it, it looks so cool
And they put like
a red wig with it
It was awesome
It did look
really cool dressed up like that
It was Guys,
yes
If you don’t know about that exhibit that
we did, we have to We referenced these things
for some reason you don’t know
We’ll go back and
check a couple episodes back
Um, so Dylan drops
into Knox’s layer and it very like surprise [ __ ]
energy like he’s just like you could see he’s just
like what
But then he like, you know, snaps out
of it and he he tapes her up
And do you remember
when Sam was on the Drew Barrymore show and they
like filmed this little segment of her sitting in
a chair with the tape and the lip print
And like they didn’t give any context
So,
like if you didn’t know this movie, you’d be like,
“What the hell is this
” And why is Sam Rockwell
taping over Drew Barrymore’s mouth
Like, what is
happening here
But we loved it
Yeah, we did
Um,
so Knox is using those satellites and all this
technology that we kind of skipped right over
to determine where Charlie is because he thinks
that Charlie is the reason that his father died
in the war
We didn’t mention any of this, but
you guys know the movie
Um, and yeah, hopefully
you do
When poor Dylan’s just like taped up and
she hears like the conversation with Charlie and
she sees that Knox figured out where he is,
like she’s doing some good eye acting there,
like she just looks so sad and worried
And um the
way that Drew yells no after the tape is torn off
her mouth, it sounds exactly like the delivery
of no from Ever After when Utopia is thrown in
the fire
Like just devastated
Like like about to cry, right
Like perfect
Oh,
I love that
And then we get Dylan’s fight
with all the dudes to Blur’s song too,
which also is like perfect for a fight scene
It’s so good
But first, she has to give us a
little speech
Wait, wait, wait, wait
I I got
something to tell you
By the time this is over,
every one of you is going to be face down on the
floor, and I’m going to moonwalk out of here
You’re not listening to me
See, first you’re
going to help me out of my chair
And then I’m
going to leap frog over you before I break his
nose
And since my trusty lighter isn’t working,
I’m going to do all of this with my
hands tied behind my back
And that like flip move she
does
It’s again so satisfying to see her pull
it off because there’s footage of her just like
struggling to get it and then it’s like yes,
you did it, girl
And then she succeeds
at exactly what she said she was just going to
do
And that’s kicking your ass
And I had
to note that’s pretty much the lispiest lisp
we’ve ever heard from Drew
Right, Nick G
You couldn’t have had her say it again
Like
that’s the take you used
I feel like that was
like parodyied
I don’t know
Like I mean it’s
classic line
And also like I think I think we
like she doesn’t have like a a lisp all the time
Like it’s like sometimes it comes out
So like
when when uh when people who do um impressions
of her make it all lispy, it’s like no that’s
not right
Like it’s not always like that
Yeah,
you know how I feel about Drew impressions
Um, also this is the other Josie moment,
the little moonwalk
Moonwalk hard air quotes
I
literally saw my daughter do a moonwalk on stage
today right before we started doing this
And
she could really do it
It’s awesome
Drew is
uh doing more like a Roger Rabbit and it’s really
goofy
It’s not a moonwalk
I’m surprised I didn’t
put a note cuz I I think I put a note and
I deleted that said like not a moonwalk
She’s giving big time Josie energy
I’m
like, “What
What happened to Dylan
Okay, so we get more fights with like, you know,
uh, Viven and Natalie are going at it and the thin
man and Alex
” And then I never really thought
about this before, but like Knox just blows up the
fortress and I guess those two just get exploded
away
Never thought about that either
Do you remember MC G saying I think it was MC G
like one of the only times they ever used stunt
doubles for the angels is like that explosion
scene where they jump off the castle or fortress
or whatever
I don’t remember that
Yeah, that
was like a big part of the marketing like uh oh
that they do everything themselves and it’s so
funny like watching it you’re like uh absolutely
not
That is so not true
Like a lot of this is
stunt work
They do amazing stuff themselves,
but like they do there’s a lot that is not them
Maybe he’s like because and normally it would be
mostly stunt people in this case and I don’t know
he’s just exaggerating
They were really trying
to push that like the girls did so much training
which they did but right
So Knox is taking his
helicopter to get Charlie and of course the angels
find a way to jump on board as they always do
And
Dylan is still pissed and she climbs in there
and she just starts whailing on him
Oh my god,
wailing on him so hard
And the angels have to
like pull Dylan away
I love that
So that doesn’t
blow up in her face cuz the helicopter’s literally
about to blow up and she’s still like looking at
him like, “Oh, yeah
” I do love that scene
I love
her face there
Like looks so pissed
Oh, and that
he blows himself up, right
He blows himself up
Then they are literally washed up on the beach,
which is such a funny little thing
And they’re
like peeling themselves off the beach like really
wet
And they get to go up to Charlie’s little
beach house and they think they’re going to meet
him, but of course he’s not there
It’s just
the speaker box
I love the way they’re acting
though
It’s I know
It’s so cute
They’re
so excited
Do we look okay
Um it’s really
funny
They have like a prop of the same photo
of Knox’s dad and Charlie in the war
The same
photo that Knox has
I’m like, as if Charlie
would have this framed
Not only is it framed,
it’s framed alongside the one of the angels
I’m like, come on
But I love the one of the
angels
It is really cute
So
Charlie talks to them on the speaker and he says
uh he wants to know if the case went well and if
it’s all done
I think the client was blown away
I feel like we’re getting genuine laughter from
them over how cheesy that line is
Wink
wink wink
Speaking of winks
Oh, so we have
this finale on the beach
So, they’re just like
drinking out of coconuts on the beach
And Chris
Miller, who we mentioned earlier, our dear friend,
uh he uh has a little cameo, I guess we can
call it
He appears very briefly delivering
a drink to Dylan and she gives him this adorable
just brief wink
He looks so young
Like this is
a I think this is an onset photo that he shared
and he’s just a little baby
I love
that though
We get another tattoo
peak from Dylan
We can see her cross tattoo which
is crazy that like you go the whole movie never
seeing her legs up until this moment
And Dylan sees a man on the beach talking on a
cell phone at the same time they’re talking to
Charlie
Cell phone in the year 2000
It must
be Charlie
It’s really cute though
I really
love that moment when she’s like, “Oh my god, I
think that’s him
” And it’s okay
I don’t need
to like bother him
I’m just happy to be here and
we’re good
And how do you not just have a huge
smile on your face at the end of this movie
Like
they all run into the ocean, the music’s happy,
like everything’s great
What a what a fun
ride
It’s so cute
And then it’s not even over,
right
Because the end credits are packed with
all kinds of fun, too
I think this is a like
some of the best end credits of any movie ever
I know I’m biased, but like they’re so enjoyable
It’s so cute
So, this part of the movie is where
the angels are dressed as a rock band, and we have
this costume in the Drew that Drew is wearing in
this, and it was featured on Collector’s Call
So, if you don’t know what the heck we’re
talking about, go to our last episode
Go to our last episode
Go to our
website
I also noticed there’s a flash
of this at the beginning of the movie
I think in
the montage I don’t think I realized it before
As we talked about on collector’s
call, we like have to imagine it was Drew’s like
idea or input to have her wearing a Duran Duran
t-shirt because we know she loved them growing
up
It’s a fun little touch
In the
credits, the first part of the credits at least,
it’s Blink 182’s all the small things, which feels
that feels exactly that time
It’s perfect
It’s
perfect
And it’s funa like you’re just having a
good time
I think the angels are supposed to be
like playing along with that
I think so, too
And like I said,
this this part especially looks so much like
a Nick G music video
It’s just hilarious
Um,
totally
I love that you put a screenshot in
here of like the round pedestal
Um,
and there’s just all these cute little like just
behind the scenes snippets
There’s some bloopers
Um, and there’s just some like cuteness as they’re
on the set of the movie
It’s just it’s cut really
well
It’s so fun
Yeah, it’s so cute
A couple
little things in here
I mentioned the uh dance
jig earlier that the little man Drew does
Um,
and then there’s also a little like he he like
uh I can’t do it
Yeah, her piggies
makes piggy sounds
Although I do have
to say it’s always bothered me that they’re like
Cameron Diaz and they like show these clips and
then she gets like a really fun blooper where
she falls and like Alex like you know Lucy Lou
and she does the blooper where the arrow hits her
back in the face and then Drews isn’t real because
it’s from that extended version of her and Nox’s
date where she intentionally pl is planned for her
to roll off the counter and they use that and I’m
always like nah come on but they do at least show
like the taking off the mask card and some other
silly moments with her
So, that’s fine
And that’s the movie
Let’s go make out with
our girlfriends
Let’s do it
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[Music] Okay
So, let’s talk about kind of the
buildup to the release of the movie because there
was a lot of anticipation with this one as we
mentioned
Um, the very first thing that sort
of happened was All Three Angels and Bill Murray
debuted the teaser trailer at Show West in March
2000
So, there’s cute, you know, they they’re
walking on stage and it was like kind of their big
debut
Do you remember this teaser trailer
It’s
funny
I I watched it just now to remind myself
And I I had remembered the beginning part,
which I guess I’ll describe this part
So it has
like a it almost looks like a James Bond style guy
in a suit walking through like a hallway
So he’s
like completely in silhouette and then within like
10 seconds there’s this voice over that’s like I
forget what it’s saying
Like dramatic voiceover
It’s like when the world’s biggest people need
help, they call one man because he’s the only
one that can reach them or something like that,
right
Well, the guy like splits into three women
basically
Like his silhouette turns into three
angels, the angel silhouettes doing their martial
arts moves
It’s actually really exciting
It is
exciting
I didn’t remember that the first teaser
trailers where they used those like I don’t even
know how to describe them
those like silly like
car almost like introductions of the angels but
they’re I don’t know how do you describe that
I didn’t remember that part
It’s kind of like
just introducing them and they each have their
little like look to camera moment with like this
again like foil behind that
You know what I’m
talking about
It is like foily
And
it does the whole and Bill Murray is Bosley
And
I remember watching this must have been through
like shitty internet
I remember watching it in
the library at college like when I worked there
The same like room where I remember like seeing
the first picture of you
It’s kind of funny
Oh,
that’s funny
They all kind of merge together
So, I remembered some of it but not all of it
So,
it was kind of fun to like revisit it
We’ll definitely link to this on the episode
page for you guys if you don’t remember it
And then the promotion continued
Um,
so just a few weeks after Show West, they
presented at the Oscars
So, the angels came
up and presented together
I remember that
I
remember like it being exciting and we talked
about Drew’s dress that she wore to this event
earlier which was made by the costume designer,
right
Joseph Alissi
So, more
promotion happened
Um, then they had many
premieres
So, red carpet premieres occurred in
New York, Los Angeles, Tokyo, Paris, London, and
Berlin
And also in promotion
for the movie, they did tons, dozens of magazine
photo shoots and TV appearances to promote the
film
Um, if you want to hear more about those,
like kind of like dayby day, you can check out our
year and review episode for the year 2000, which
was episode 19
So you can hear us talk about all
the outfits they wore to those events
And yeah,
it’s interesting
Like I threw a couple of their
shared covers and photo shoots in the episode
gallery for this one obviously
Um but yeah,
there’s even a lot of like solo things that Drew
did and it’s just it was a great time guys let
me tell you
Were there premiier magazine issues
like back toback or like two months apart
So the Angels appeared together on September and
again that was sort of like the debut like that
was like the first time
Um, and then two months
later for November, it was Solo Drew cover
Like
crazy
That was so cool
We were really getting
spoiled back then
Yeah, we were
But we’ve we’ve
you probably have heard us talk about like how
overwhelming the amount of paper there is from the
year 2000 and we love it, but it’s also like we’ve
got a hundred like different versions of like the
poster and like the same things over and over
Um,
in addition to all the like paper magazine
stuff, there was also a ton of merchandise sold
for this movie
The most like memorable being the
Jack’s Pacific dolls that were like Barbieesque,
except they were a little more like action figury,
I guess, poseable
Um, I totally remember I think
it was Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood
like doing a segment on this and showing like
the technology that they use to supposedly scan
the angel’s faces
like they didn’t show them,
but they showed somebody else doing it
Um, and
it’s interesting like they look like them from
certain angles and then other angles it’s like
woo what happened there
Like I
feel like the Drew character, the Dylan doll sort
of looks like Drew headon, especially in profile
I think the profile is pretty good
And then she’s
got the butterfly tattoo, which is such a cute I
always really appreciated that they bothered
with that, you know
And they
also did two different versions of these dolls
So
like there were two different outfits
Signature
looks
That’s what they called them
I think we
both have both of them
Yeah, of course
Yeah,
of course we do
But if you want to check out all
of our Charlie’s Angels memorabilia in the Drew,
you would just go to the Drew
comca for Charlie’s
Angels and you’ll see what we’re talking about
It’s like so many ads, so many pieces of random
memorabilia, like really fun random little things
they did
There’s like a version of Dylan’s car
and just all kinds of stuff like that
And then
of course there was also a soundtrack that was
very popular
Um the hugest hit being Destiny’s
Child song Independent Women, which starts out
with the classic [Music] and destiny angels
I love with my girl Drew
It’s like, yeah, me
too
And that song plays in the drive-thru scene
of the movie and then also when the like final
end end credits are rolling
So, super fun
Um,
the movie debuted in the US on November 3rd, 2000
We mentioned this at the top of the episode
Big
big anniversary
big or 20 25 years ago, the
year 2000
Um, the movie opened at number one,
which is really cool for Drew
Like, we know
that she was nervous about this
And
it grossed more than 264 million worldwide, which
I think every time we talk about these, I’m like,
I have no like gauge
Like, I don’t pay enough
attention to know, but that’s a lot of money
I don’t either
Yeah, it’s a lot of money
And I
remember I did look like so then it was number one
for several weeks and then so I was like it had
to be like one of the top grossing films of the
year but that was a big year for movies
So it was
like number 18 for the whole year which is crazy
because it did really well
It was just people
were going to the movies that year
Um and
the DVD is packed with special features and Easter
eggs like tons of stuff
It’s been so long since
I’ve like gone through
Um, thankfully a lot of
it is on YouTube
You found out at this point
Um,
there’s a lot of behind the scenes footage from
this movie
Like there’s back when DVDs like this
is like sort of I think almost the peak of when it
was like let’s just put as much on there as we can
like like why not
Like there was so much cool
stuff that we were able to see
And of course,
as we mentioned, MC G does a director’s
commentary along with the um cinematographer
Russell Carpenter
And it’s like no one does that
stuff anymore
It feels like I don’t get it
Yeah,
that’s true
I I remember like when I wanted to
buy something on DVD, I would like if it didn’t
have special features, I’m like lame
And
now it’s just like that’s the standard
I think
I haven’t bought a DVD in a while, but Yeah
I
haven’t bought a DVD or Blu-ray in a while
Or
if I have, I like probably haven’t played it
I bought it like for the collection, right
You
know what’s so funny is that before I even had
an actual DVD player, my sister’s boyfriend had
a PlayStation which played DVDs
So, the very
first DVDs I bought simultaneously together,
I think from Amazon, were this and Fight Club
And it was like so exciting to me to get to like
watch those
And I mean, this DVD, if you guys
don’t have it, it’s just such it’s so fun
And
there’s so much like there’s literal Easter eggs
where you have to like move the cursor to like
a certain place to find it
Oh, it’s so
fun
That’s cool
I feel like I need to like put
it in at some point soon and and like play with it
again
Or just DVDs in general
Like I don’t
remember the last time I like put a physical media
like into it
I do it pretty much every time we’re
doing a movie episode
That’s kind of the only
way
Usually cuz you’re playing your actual Yeah,
usually
I guess doppelganger
I was like, “Cool,
it’s free on Amazon Prime
I’ll just watch it at
work
That one’s not an event the
way watching Charlie’s Angels is
So, of course, with the great success,
a sequel was like inevitable
So, the second
film went into production in 2002, ended up being
titled Charlie’s Angel’s Full Throttle, and it was
released in summer 2003
But we are going to save
all our talk about that one for its own episode
Like there’s no I don’t know how anybody could
combine these two movies
It’s just way too much
Unless you went into a lot less detail than we
do
Well, I have a feeling this is probably
the most exhaustive like podcast that’s ever been
done about this movie
Um, Flower Films
also produced a short-lived TV series that was out
in 2011
I never watched it
I feel kind of bad
There are actually a few
things that they’ve that they’ve released that I
haven’t watched
So, Flower Films has done like
they did like a couple horror things that I did
I haven’t They did a couple horror a couple like
reality things that like just it it was just hard
to keep up with for a while
Then there was a
reboot movie in 2019 that was written and directed
by Elizabeth Banks
I also did not see that
But you noted here that the racetrack and the
Swiss Miss costumes have small appearances which
so interesting
So they like use those
I think
they’re like showing the angel’s vault
I don’t
know what it is
The archive and they briefly
pan by those too, which was a cute little nod
I think that’s a nice way to do it
That’s cool
It’s probably fun
I mean, this is such a fun like
the core of Charlie’s Angels is so fun
And
then here we are like rumors of a third movie with
our three angels have continued to swirl and there
have been moments where it’s really seemed like in
the past year that something was going to happen
Even Drew herself almost said without saying to
us, right
But nothing no news
It’s like what’s
no official news
No official news
But every
time like Drew has publicly talked about it or
like either of like Lucil or Cameron Diaz, I feel
like they’re just like, “Yeah, I would do it
“
Like absolutely
I don’t think either of them has
had any hesitation in the public eye about it
So,
you know, we have hopes and I feel like it will
happen
Maybe it’s happening now
And that’s where we’re at
Did
we do it
Did we actually talk about Charlie’s
Angels
I can’t believe it
saying we’ve been avoiding like the plague,
but avoiding, but I’m like so excited to have done
it
Like every step of this I was like, “Woo
I
love Charlie’s Angels
” I for I forget I will say
this kind of what you were alluding to earlier,
like it was a little overwhelming and it still can
be like when we’re going through our collections,
it’s like uh all the Charlie’s Angel stuff
Like
you almost want to flip past it in a weird way
But watching this movie is always so much fun
Like I am always beaming
I am always like so
pumped and so excited and laughing and happy
Like everything Drew wanted people to feel
I
feel Yeah, me too
Totally get the like flipping
past the like all the paper stuff that came out,
especially when it was like the same pictures
printed over and over and over again
But yeah,
there is like something about like the movie has
this sort of like maybe somewhat overstimulating
thing about it and so does like all of the
promotional stuff that happened but in a way
that we’re like we accepted it and we love it
Um
we love our stuff from 2000 even though it takes
up entire binders, right
I accidentally
picked up the following year’s binders and I was
like why is this so light
Like there’s no way my
2000 binder is this light and then I was like oh
wrong one
That makes a lot more sense
Um, if
you guys do want to hear more Charlie’s Angels
talk from us, that is available to you
Um, back
in July 2024, we guested it on our friends movies
that made us gay when they covered it on
their episode 243
That was a blast
And
I’m sure there’s like aspects we talked about
there that we didn’t even get to hear probably,
which is really cool
So, if you
just can’t get enough of us or the angels,
but thanks you guys for being here with us
We hope this was as fun for you as it was for
us
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How Do You Drew Episode 116 – Our Appearance on Collector’s Call
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Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew
This is a Drew Barrymore podcast brought
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I’m Anne
And I’m Ashley
I got some morning
scratchy voice today
Sorry about that
We don’t normally record this early
No, we don’t
But you know
what
We had to fit it in, guys, because
we’ve got things to do
We’re trying to
be consistent
You traveled for what
17 hours
yesterday
Very cool
A very cool, chill travel
just within the states
You know, guys,
you know how
But you’re settled
You’re back in
Maine
I live in a rural place, so it
takes a while
I’m
ready for us to get into uh the top of
this episode
Um what do we got
We got
a lot of random stuff to talk about
Yeah, some fun and random
So, um
we definitely want to put this out here
and we could have put this at the end of
the episode, but um it’s this kind of
dovetales along with today’s topic,
which was our appearance on the TV show
Collector’s Call
Um our episode’s
appraiser Scott um he has a podcast of
his own and it’s called the Patrick
Scott Patterson Project and he had us on
as guest a couple months ago, right
That’s when we did it
It was a little while ago
He’s
he’s good about uh recording ahead of
time
something that we are not I’m not
on board with on our end over here
He’s like, Okay, this is scheduled to
come out on this date, you know, like
five months from now
We’re like,
Damn, must be nice to be so on top of
it
We’re releasing this episode in two
days
You know, you know how it goes
That’s
just the way we got to do it
Um,
there’s a video version available of
this podcast
I think he releases his
podcast like all over the place, but on
YouTube there’s a video version so you
can
look at our dorky faces as we talk about
our love for Drew
Yeah, it’s actually
really cute
I couldn’t like bring
myself to watch the entire thing, but I
watched portions and I was like, Oh,
yeah
Like cuz I’d forgotten
We get
into like um early internet nostalgia
Like I really liked that
conversation and it’s really fun to just
go back and listen to that
So check it
out, guys
We’ll link to it on the show
episode page
And thank you, Scott, for having us on
Yeah, for sure
And we we have Scott to thank for a lot
of stuff here
Yeah, we’ll be talking about him again
at least at least partially
Um, all
right
So, let’s get in a couple other
fun things
Um, uh, we have to note the
Jesse Bafukco interview from the Drew
Barrymore Show
So, if you don’t know
who that is, um, Joey Bafukco,
um, famously is the lover of Amy
Fischer
I don’t really need to go into
anymore if you don’t I don’t know
Do we
need to say anymore
If you don’t know,
uh, Drew was in a a movie called the Amy
Fischer story that was based on a true
story
They get into that and how the
public sort of life surrounding this
whole drama affected Jesse Bodafuko
It
was great
It was great
It was a It was
like for me highlight of the season so
far as far as like really meaningful
interviews
She was so awesome
Like
total badass
But it was so funny cuz I watched it
first and I texted you and I was like I
don’t know
She like really sees Drew
like she understands Drew’s history and
trauma like in a way that we do, but I
don’t feel like most people do
So, I
texted you that
Which agree
Would you agree you
you got that feeling
Yeah, totally
So, I had like reposted on our Jerusalem
Instagram like a link or just like,
Guys, check this episode out
It was
really good
And I tagged Jesse
She
responded
and she said, Thank you so much
I
actually used your website in my
preparation for the interview to learn
more about Drew
So I was like, no wonder she sees Drew
the way we do
She freaking used our
research
That’s so great
But it also allowed
like those parallels to be made
I mean
like to the fact that we had anything to
do with the preparation
That’s so cool
Dude, it made me feel really proud and
really like we’re doing something useful
and you know it was cool
made me feel
great
Yeah, it was that’s just a fun little
bonus, you know, the fact that like Drew
is doing this and gets to host a show
and talk to people who were impacted by
her career in such a unique
way
Not that I don’t know, you know,
it’s it’s fascinating
Definitely
both of them talking about like weird
fame and infamy
sort of impacting their lives
Anyway,
loved it
Okay, so also um I think we
kind of been tracking this a little bit
Maybe you told me about it a while ago
Um there’s a new biography about
Drew’s aunt, Diana Barrymore
She’s
halfsisters with Drew’s dad and um it’s
written by Jennifer Anne Redmond and
she’s been yeah sort of promoting it as
it’s like gotten closer and closer to
coming out
Um I think it was the Dana
Plato fan Instagram
Um the guy who runs
that is really cool and he messages us a
lot and I think he was the one that gave
me the heads up on this
But um
yeah, I read like just a little bit in
the Amazon sample
You know how you can
like search a term and it’ll sometimes
show you some
There was some very
interesting and upsetting stuff about
Drew’s dad in there
I’m very curious to
see more about this book, read it, but I
did listen to the author on a podcast
called Forgotten Hollywood
And man,
there were definitely some really like
strong parallels that I was able to draw
from Diana’s life and Drew’s life
Like
I think it would be a very like rich
thing for us to read and like just kind
of learn more about that whole Barrymore
curse as they they even called it
apparently back in the day
Even the
Barry Moores themselves
called Called it the Barrymore curse
because it was like happening to so many
of them
I mean I guess if you guys don’t know
Diana had written her own book
Which I’ I don’t think I’ve read
called Too Much Too soon
Is it too much
too soon
So this book is called Too
Fast Too Short
I don’t know if we
already said that
Um, but yeah, we have
not read Diana Barry Moore’s other book,
so maybe we should do like a special
like Patreon episode about Diana or
something, you know, like
Oh, that would be cool
I don’t know
We’ll think more about
this
But anyway, Jennifer and Redmond,
very cool that like writing a book about
like one of the lesserk known Barry
Moores who also had this experience
Yeah, that was kind of her point like
let’s let’s not forget about her
Um, all right
Uh, should we talk
about some things that Drew has
proclaimed her love for recently
I love love
All right
Just a couple this week
I gota huge ass paragraph
All right
Drew loves game shows
Apollo Santo
Of course, it’s apollo santo
Of course, a singular
Also a good
spanking
We need a like
Val’s cookbooks
Valerie Bartelli
Obviously,
Drew loves collecting art
The only reason she married Will
Willman
I’m just kidding
She loves small lamps
But don’t worry, she doesn’t
discriminate
She also loves lamps of
all sizes
Of course
She loves a cafe curtain, which I didn’t
know what that was until I looked it up
Do you know what
It’s just like a
little tiny curtain at the top of a
at the bottom
Oh,
yeah
Kind of weird
Um, she loves when people weigh in
She loves wine and dishes
Her bestie Rossy Ross Matthews
She loves a pro tip
Enchiladas
Well, yeah
She loves when things she
makes work, which is funny because I
think it was like a beautiful appliance
And I do always get nervous when they
use them on the show
I’m always like,
Oh, what if like the blender didn’t
work or something
What would they have to do
After she’s like, I made this
She loves chili kilos
A weekend project
This is one we’re doing right now
She loves a gorilla glue
Uh oh, I probably should have put the
pronunciation of this one on there
Um,
aguanchali I believe is what how you
pronounce it
And it’s an Italian cured
meat
Keep it on the meat train
She also
loves a Swedish meatball
A juicy ball
And finally, Drew loves dishes that
balance sweet and savory really well
Which I feel like she says a lot, but
this was a new a new format of that same
idea
I love I love a long list of
things Drew loves cuz she’s just always
saying how much she loves things
And
it’s funny because I had texted you
I
was like, Oh, I feel like we’re making
her self-conscious because whatever
episode I was watching, she kept saying
I like instead of I love
So, I’d be
like, Oh, no
Can’t include it
But
there were plenty
Alas,
alas, there was no shortage at the end
of this
Um, speaking of our friend
Scott at the beginning, our mailbag has
got some Scott in it
So, let’s go in
our mailbag
You’ve got mail
I think this was just like a, you
know, messaging back and forth on
Instagram message, but I like plucked
this one little part out of something
that he said because I just thought it
was very kind and it meant a lot to me
and it will to you, too
So, Scott said, I became
interested in what you do because it’s
true
I stuck around listening to your
podcast because the world needs more
people like you, especially now
I’m
going to support anyone who speaks about
things they have a positive passion
about
That’s us
It’s positive passion
That should be our subtitle
Positive passion about Drew Barrymore
So, let’s get into what’s new with Drew
Here we go with the news everybody
Okay, this was interesting
Flower Beauty
Flower eyewear alive
I don’t know
I still don’t understand
Aliveish on life support
So, they did these like promos on Drew’s
Instagram stories where it was like five
or six different photos of her
They
were all cute new pictures from Ramona
Rosales’s photo shoot
We’d seen like
two of them
They’d been used in US
Weekly, but there was new ones, which
was really exciting
Um, and each one like listed a place
that you could supposedly buy these new
styles of eyewear
Some of them actually do have them on
their websites
Um, IMART Express and
Asda, they did, but most of them did
not, at least on the websites, including
Walmart
Like,
we could go on and on about Walmart’s
website and how you can’t find anything
on there
Um, and then that there was also like
BJ’s and Chemist Warehouse and FGX
I
don’t know what most of these places
are, but
yeah, you couldn’t find them on their
website, so maybe they have them in
person
I don’t know
It’s so weird
All I can think is because I I know you
know I like they have them at the
Walmart in middle of nowhere Maine
Like
I go into their their eyewear section
and there’s a section of flower eyewear
Like I’m like what
But I I just wonder
like maybe their like the online system
for any of these places it’s like too
hard
But it sucks because of course we
want to like see all the details about
it
See if there’s any I don’t know more
pictures whatever
Um but yeah
So,
Flower Eyewear is out there apparently
Still thriving
I don’t know
Thriving might be a little
Yeah, who knows if if you go to any of
these venues and you see them like let
us know what the display is like
I
don’t know
We have no idea
It makes me want to like go back to the
Walmart’s area and see if like anything
has changed over there
Like I don’t
know
You got to take one for the team and go
do that
Yeah, I guess so
I I mean Walmart’s
kind of Well, you know, it’s like one of
the only places to do to go out here
So, Drew wrote a forward for
the new book that designer Muel Welch
wrote called The Forever Home
Um, and
just like a side note, Drew has done
like so many random four words for
books
Like, I guess it’s a way for her
to use her like name for like friends
and stuff, right
Like,
so it’s really sweet
Um,
yeah
I mean,
some notable ones of course are like
Ross’s Tio and Tio where she appears as
like a little animated
that
Yeah, me too
Um, and the misfits we’ve
talked about by John Rosen
She did the
forward four
Anyway, there are a few
more
And um, I just had to note that
like the first line says, I love this
man
I’m like, Okay, well, one more
love for Drew Loves
I love everything in the world
Lastly, this is the biggest
and the most exciting news
The Drew
Barrymore Show just won three daytime
Emmys like two days ago
Most
importantly, Drew’s first ever because
she won for outstanding daytime talk
series host
Yay, Drew
I think Kelly Clarkson always wins
So,
unfortunately, Drew wasn’t even there
I
like it’s almost like,
well, we’re not going to win
So, like,
you know, nobody bothered going except
for Ross
But, um, yeah, also so cool to the hair
styling and makeup team
They won for
outstanding hair styling and makeup
Um,
we know some of those people and they’re
also cool
And then also outstanding
directing team, which I was like, I
wonder who that who gets that one
Like,
I wonder if we even know who those
people are cuz we know a lot of
producers
But
I was kind of wondering the same thing
like if the daytime Emmys like list
those people’s names
Drew Barrymore Show, Outstanding Hair
and Makeup
Yeah, list their names
Oh, had makeup artist Lauren Gulino,
makeup artist Joanna Pisani
Joanna, she
did ours
And hair stylist Daniel Howell
Oh, and
then hairstylist Tony Coburn
She did our hair, too
Oh, cool
And then, hold on
Let me go
to the directing team
Good find
Oh, I don’t even know these names
That’s
That’s what I thought
The director Scott Titlebomb,
associate director Sarah Tanner, and
stage managers VA Carey and Liz Keane
I
think we met Liz
Oh, yeah, we did
Let’s um is the one
that walked us down to the set and all
that
One of our
friends
I just wish Drew had been there
It’s
such a bummer
Like I would have love to
see her accept her Emmy
I mean, yeah, like you’re
right
She must have just not
Well, I also just have this weird
We haven’t talked about this on the pod,
but we’ve talked about it privately
She
is not in a lot of segments of the
Drewberry Mar show right now
They’re
doing a lot without her
We’ve we’ve
made jokes about it privately for sure
Like it’s the Drew
Barrymore show
Drew Barry Moore, not Drew Barrymore
less
But yeah, there’s segments without her
There’s doing a lot of like the last
like six minutes of the show are like,
here’s an old clip from an old season
It’s just very mysterious to me
And I
feel like she’s busy with something
else
Like I can’t shake this feeling
I mean, yeah, we keep we keep
saying that
I guess time will tell
Time will tell
Yeah, we don’t have any
intel yet, guys
Um anyway, congratulations to
the Drew Barrymore Show on your three
daytime Emmys
Like that’s so cool
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Thank you
So, I guess we’re here to talk
about this weekly topic of collector’s
call
We
need to do more of what this is is
believing in people, supporting each
other, celebrating, collecting
I think we only like really, really,
really announced it last episode, but we
did this a long time ago
We’re going to
tell you the whole background of it
And
it finally came out last week in between
our two podcast episodes
So, this is
our time to talk about it
If you guys
haven’t seen it, we are working on that
Yeah, we’re working on it
We have some
way that we’re hoping to get it out
there for you
Um, it’s on M TV, which
is just like an overtheair channel
I
don’t even know if they air reruns of
the show
I hope they do so more people
can see it
Um, anyway, I got a chance
to watch it live at my parents house in
Fontana
I’m glad I was there
Crazy
timing
So, I mean, so good
I
just happened to be in California last
week
Um, but I do want to say like a
big big caveat about the Collector’s
Call episode if you watched it
There’s
so much of our collection that they
literally could not represent on TV and
that had a lot to do with like clearance
rates
So items couldn’t be included on
the Drew Barrymore show, which we’ll
explain the link in a second
Um,
including like magazines and photos
Um,
so they didn’t end up on collector’s
call either
So it’s kind of a strange
like even when they do like the the
valuation like
Yeah
Scott mentions it in the episode,
but anyway, there’s a lot that visually
is not represented
a lot
So, if you’re here and you watch
that and you’re coming straight to our
episode somehow, like make sure you like
spend some time on the museum to
understand like the breadth of the
collection
Especially, I would imagine if
you’re like a regular watcher of that
show, which I would be if I had access
to if it was streaming, which it’s not
Um, they usually are in the person’s
home and like, you know, maybe there’s
like a room that’s dedicated to their
collection or rooms plural
And this was
filmed in New York where neither of us
live and anything that was there we had
to get there
So it was a unique
situation for them for us and we want to
tell you all of the back behind the
scenes info about it
Um, also just another note,
collector’s call picked some items that
they wanted to feature out of
We like
we chose like 10 to 15 items that we
considered like, you know, the coolest
like top items in the collection
Um,
and some other items that weren’t chosen
were a test Polaroid that was taken for
People magazine and is it 82
Um, Mad Love production materials
um
some really special reference pictures
for Scream special effects
Um a shirt
from 51st States, a prop from 51st
States that we did film a section about
and then they didn’t use and a shirt
from Whip It
Anyway, there’s lots of
other cool stuff, but it’s like very
much so like pairing it down like it
just made me think like the behind the
scenes of like all of these episodes
I don’t know
That’s a hard job to like these are the
things we’re going to feature like
right
and only these
and like they Yeah
How do they
select which are the coolest
I mean, I
we’re really happy with how it ended up,
but it was just it was a very strange
process
So, should we get into the
background
Go back in time a little
bit
Let’s do it
So,
okay
They first reached out to us just
through an email way back in September
24
So, I can’t believe like a year ago
this all began
That’s wild
Um, so as we mentioned, our
fellow Drewie Patrick Scott Patterson or
known as Scott, he had worked with them
previously doing like a video game
collection episode and he pitched the
idea of an episode about a Drew
collector collection and obviously that
would be us
Yes,
that’s kind of our thing
Which was so cool
Um, so pretty
soon after that proposal, we had a fun
Zoom call with I think they’re both
producers, so it’s Diana and Mike
I
can’t remember what Diana’s actual title
is
Um, but the the call went really well
We were like feeling the vibe
It was
like clearly it felt like we at that
point we were talking about doing it at
my parents house in Fontana and like
staging the collection in a room because
both Ashley and I do not really have our
collections on on display sadly in ways
that we used to at certain points in our
lives
Um so it would have had been
totally staged anyway and then it ended
up being totally staged a different way
I know that’s kind of funny but it was
still going to be the same
It was still
going to be February which is kind of
funny
like just ended up that’s sort of
what they had room on their schedule
So after that call, we didn’t hear
anything for a couple months
Um but we had started working with the
Drew Barry Moore show on a 50th birthday
episode appearance at the same time
So
like literally while we were waiting for
Collector’s Call to like get back to us,
we had started this conversation with
the Drew Barrymore Show, which is like
we’re like wild
Why are we so important all of a sudden
We’re having all these television
producer Zooms
It was weird and wild
It was
weird and wild
And if you want to know like the
background and the history of how we
appeared on that show, our episode 99
kind of talks about all that
So, we’re
going to not get into the details of
that this time around
Um, so then we received an
email in November of last year saying,
We’ve been working with the Drew
Barmore people regarding the shoot
you’re doing with them
we will also be
there that day to tape a special moment
for collector’s call with all of you
And I remember I remember reading that
email and being like what
Like they’re
talking to each other about us
Like we
had no idea because we didn’t tell
Collector’s Call that we were talking to
them
I don’t know even how they found
out
Like I honestly have no idea
I I
would imagine they had reached out like,
Oh, is Drew able to do like a video or
something for this episode
And they
went, Oh, those girls are already
scheduled to be here
So weird, guys
It was very weird
I
feel like you were very like, Yeah,
that makes sense
And I was just like
flipping out
Like I just couldn’t
believe it
And you were very like,
Okay, yeah, I get it
But I also feel
like the, you know, just casually, we’re
going to be there for a special moment
for clerk to call with all of you
We’re
like, what does that mean
The special moment term definitely
got used a lot and we kept going, what
does that look like
Like we just can’t
even we have no idea
And again, we’ll talk into like
we’ll talk about what that means, but
Yeah
So, we got this like kind of
casual like we’re working with the
people regarding the shoot we’re doing
with them
Like
we’ll be there too
So then we did like another
important Hollywood business meeting
where we went on we went on a Zoom with
producers of both shows at the same
time
Ann and I were just kind of like
sitting quietly listening to them make
all these arrangements about us
It was
a trip
Somebody even commented on it
like thanks you guys for like we’re
sorry we’re just like talking about you
while you sit there
It was it was really cool to kind of see
really cool
I actually think I have a
screenshot of it
Uh but yeah, we got to
just listen to them work out the
logistics of how they were going to do
these two shows, both shows backtoback
in the studio um in the CBS studio
So
it was literally like, Okay,
Collector’s Call crew will be there
The
girls are going to be miked for both
shows
We’re going to film the Drew
Barrymore show segment
We’re going to
wrap that
Collector’s Call, you need to
sweep in with your cameras and your
crew
film this special moment and then our
collection would be moved by like the
teamsters who work on the show to the
rehearsal space to film the bulk of our
collector’s call episode
So it was just
like that’s how it’s going to go
We’re
like holy
And like I mean this did actually happen
and it was wild
The Yeah
the um logistics
It was so
whirlwind
interesting
Whirlwind interesting
It
was all very interesting
Like literally
as we were like talking to Drew and
filming this thing on Drew’s set, they
were like removing
the collection behind us
Like I think
one of the pictures you literally can
like see someone’s back like grabbing
something as like taking a picture with
Drew
Like you know it was like it’s
daytime TV
They’re just like okay next
you know,
right
They had a whole another episode
to film of the Drew show um right after
a break
So, yeah, it was very
all the decisions they have to make like
every second like I can’t I can’t even
imagine being that in that environment
Um and then we did continue filming more
collector’s call the following day in a
different space
So, there was like even
more logistics that happened here
I remember like getting concerned about
a lot of these logistics and having to
tell myself this is not your problem
You are not in charge
like just go
along
They know what they’re doing cuz
I just like get so nervous about those
things
But like they had it down,
they got it, it happened
It all worked
We somehow recorded two shows and it was
fine
So, let’s just get into like
what we can kind of remember about the
days
Um, like Ashley said, if you
haven’t listened to the episode about
the Jerberrymore show whirlwind, that’ll
give you even more background because we
also recorded that like right after it
happened
So, if you’re interested in
more about like how we were feeling
logistics, there’s a lot more there
Um,
all right, day one
So, as we said, as soon as the Drew
Barrymore Show wrapped their show and
the audience sang happy birthday to
Drew, we were there for that
We’re just like hovering awkwardly
behind her cuz we weren’t we couldn’t
move
Yeah, we had to stay there
And it’s kind of cool that on the social
media like we are behind her singing her
happy birthday for her 50th
It was it
was really crazy and cool, you guys
So, as we said before, Collector’s Call
like rolled right up on stage and
started filming our special moment
Like, it was within like minutes
Like, it was so fast
And I love that you noted that
Douglas Drew’s dog was at our feet
like
it was just very like
I don’t know surreal in so many ways but
that was like yet another detail
And uh the host of collector’s
call is Lisa Welch which you might know
her best as Blair from Facts of Life
So
they there is like clips on the episode
which I’m glad to see these cuz like
that’s all just like a blackout for me
I don’t really remember a lot,
but they like announce Lisa and so she
like runs out and the audience is all
still sitting there and they like
clapped for her and stuff and Drew and
Lisa were really excited to see each
other because they’ve become friendly
over the years with Lisa’s appearances
on the show
And this was the quote unquote special
moment
So this is kind of like Lisa
saying, And Ashley, here you are with
Drew
And you know, of course, Drew
kind of just like Drew didn’t even know
she was doing this
This was literally
sprung on her because her whole birthday
episode is a surprise
So, she couldn’t
know we were there
And they’re like,
You’re doing this now
And like
being such the freaking pro that she is
She just like rolled right into it with
zero preparation and had no problem
Like, she just like blows me away that
she can do that
It’s amazing
I mean, I know they’re
like Lisa and Drew both had that like
incredible ability to just like, All
right, here’s what’s happening
I mean, pros
Like literal pros
Total pros
Ashley and Drew her very self
I’ve
known them for years and I always brag
about how the only picture I have of my
mother and father together is because
they were kind enough to give me that
photo and it’s hung on my wall in my
home ever since
My personal life has
been so benefited by you guys caring
enough to find things that I’ve never
had access to
Beyond any movie
paraphernalia, I have evidence of my mom
and dad together thanks to you guys
I
met them so many years ago and I was so
in awe of your intentionality and your
energy because there’s nothing indulgent
about this
There’s something just
really positive at play
and I knew that it was on a human level
and that’s all I care about
Yeah, we just love to celebrate your
life and it’s so rich and there’s so
many lessons to be learned from you and
we’re just out here to support it
Thank
you guys so much
Happy birthday
Okay,
I’m not crying
You’re crying
guys
Guys, listening to that again,
like immediately we both started tearing
up because she’s talking about like us
It’s like I still I will never
understand how this how we’ve gotten
here
This is crazy
Pretty pretty amazing, guys
And I think
that we have sensed some of this stuff
like that she gets
what we’re there for
like she knows we
love her, but there’s like nothing uh
sinister about it
We’re not creeps
I mean, like we’re creeps in our
own way, but like you know, anyway, I
think the the way she described
her impression of us and how that has
like we have personally benefited her
life like what
Anyway, that was that
special moment was really special
We could have possibly have known that
Also, like after that, we’re like what
did she say
It was so great
to see it on TV cuz I was like, I didn’t
remember any of this that she said
Like
this is so cool
And like while we’re
talking to her, there’s this like look
on her face that’s so like touched and
uh
it was insane
And they have really cool like um
footage like before that starts like
kind of behind the scenes of like us
kind of talking to her privately which
it’s just really really really neat
So
I hope everybody gets to check it out
Yeah, it’s really neat
Um, I also was
realizing in the show they don’t really
explain that we were doing a thing for
Drew’s 50th birthday
No, we were wondering like are they
going to explain that we’re even at her
show
Like they didn’t, which is kind of
you just had to know, I guess
I guess or I guess for like people who
are watching it like they just probably
don’t they don’t need to fill in those
gaps, you know
I guess it’s like where are they
How is
this happening
I don’t know
If there
was somebody else, like if we were
watching some other Drew fan like have
this experience, you’d be like, How
Totally
What happened
Anyway, so that’s why
we’re here filling in the gaps
Um
anyway, so um like we said, once we were
done with that moment, which like
whirlwind, incredible, amazing moment,
um the items were like literally being
moved into the rehearsal space like
behind us, like disappearing as we were
like and they they did it all
Like they
moved everything
They reused some of
the shelving that they’ used on the Drew
Barry Moore’s 50th show for the backdrop
collector’s call
Like if you’re paying
attention, you can like see totally,
you know, a lot of the same like the way
it’s set up even
And then we were given lunch, which was
so cool and we felt so like I don’t
know
We were we were kind we were
talent guys
It was weird
Also, I just
remembered as we were walking to the
rehearsal space, Drew Drew like coming
to go up those stairs that they always
film her coming down when she’s getting
ready for the show
We’re just like,
Oh, hi
And her assistant had the
Ethel Barrymore photo that we had given
her
Oh, yeah
We didn’t even mention that
But yeah, I guess we mentioned it on our
episode about the the show
Yeah, we did
Another thing just about
that Ethel Barrymore picture
We I
didn’t remember that they took a picture
of Drew holding it with us and Scott and
then at the end of this episode it just
appeared
We’re like
had no memory of taking that picture at
all
So we’ll share that one because
it’s really cute
So we got to have our
hair and makeup touched up by Ramanda
Maru
She’s at beauty_by
roamanda on um Instagram
And she was
really cool
And also, I just really
like how my uh makeup looked in the
episode thanks to her touch-up
So,
thank you
I do remember that I I brought two of
the same shirt and I had like sweat
through it so badly because we we were
doing stuff for so long and I just am a
sweaty person
And I like to went to
take it off and switch into the other
one and I got makeup on it
So then I
would it was a whole thing but it worked
out
You weren’t in the room
I feel like you remember you telling me,
but did you go back to the other shirt
or did you clean off the one that you
I think I had to and then I like cleaned
it off for the next day because we had
to wear the same clothes the next day
So, I had like the new shirt on the next
Oh, anyway, the things the magic of
television
Thank you, Randa, for
making us look a little fresher after
like I think we’d had our makeup done
Like, what time was it
when the Jarimmore show did our makeup
9 or something
10 10 in the morning
I
don’t remember
So, then it
was like 2:00 p
I don’t even know what time it was
Then, um, it was time to
film for Collector’s Call
So, they like
had set up this thing after we ate
Um,
yeah, we were just kind of chilling,
eating, and, uh, watching them like set
up all the cameras, set up all the
stuff
It was I mean, all of this, we
love this We love the behind the
scenes
Love the behind the scenes
And I
remember just feeling this like sense of
like chill
Like I just felt so calm and
comfortable at that point because I
think we’d already had this huge like
adrenaline spike
I think we can attribute this somewhat
to the Collector’s Call crew
Absolutely
Because they were so cool,
so chill
Had it together
Small crew,
but like amazing
Really worked well together
Um,
and I, you know, I think they kept
saying like, Thank you to us for
seemingly being prepared and we can only
imagine like, well, we’ve been doing
this podcast or we’re like used to
talking to each other
Anyway, it went
really smooth
So, kind of the format
was they went through the six featured
items that they had chosen and we like,
you know, they bring that one to the
forefront and we would give background
on them and we would take pictures
posing with them
It was kind of
interesting because they asked us, you
know, beforehand to prepare like how did
you get it
How much did you pay
So,
unfortunately, I’ve kept horrible
records of that stuff
Don’t ask me why
So, I had to like dig so deep into old
like emails and like looking at like
eBay feedback and trying to fill in the
blanks
Was this that item
Um,
so a lot of it was kind of like guessing
work, but
yeah, it just happened to be we just
don’t spend a lot of money when we’ve
been very lucky
So everything we’re like couldn’t have
been more than $200,
right
And the fact that like a lot of
the things that they’re talking about
like would have been collected for the
jersey like many years ago
So yeah, you’re like I wouldn’t have
spent $1,000
Like I just wouldn’t have
like there’s no way
And we’re just frugal, you know
Like I
think I think in general like we we have
many stories of knowing people have paid
a lot for something and then we’re like
we like waited for the right moment or
we’re lucky and we didn’t you know like
whatever it is
Um so we’ve been pretty lucky
Um so
I’ll just like list a couple things
really quick
So they did the ballet
outfit from when Drew was a little
little kid before she did ET
Um the
fire starter chair back which was the
director’s chair back
By the way it’s
really hard to find like other things
like that the the chair back because I
was I don’t know
Um,
Christmas cards from Flower Films, which
were incredibly special, obviously
Um,
the dress from Never Been Kissed, the
prom dress, guys, that is so cool
And
when you see that in the background of
any of the images from the show or
anything, it’s like
it sticks out
immediately recognizable
It’s so cool
Um, the Charlie’s Angels costume from
their band moment at the end of the
first movie
And then we had filmed a
moment about this badge from 51st states
that’s in the jersey, but they ended up
not using that in the show
And I
remember when they did it, I was a
little bit like this is not it’s like
hard to like explain why it’s cool
It
probably didn’t show that well
We wouldn’t have picked that one, but
they ended up picking it
And then
obviously they decided not to use it,
which is kind of funny
So they filmed about six
and then we ended up ended up cutting it
down to five
Um, and I think we already
said this about like Lisa’s
professionalism
Lisa Welchel like she
was so cool, so funny
Oh my god
I And you already kind of mentioned like
how chill it was, including the fact
that we had like her there and she was I
don’t know
She was so like down to earth and funny
I’m like I totally get why her and Drew
would get along
It’s crazy that she’s
also been famous the most of her life
She was awesome and I was very like as
we already said I was very impressed
with how on the fly she could just like
they’d be like do say something like
this and she just boom do it so and
sound so good
Did you have a pun in there without
anything
I mean I guess this is maybe
like when we talk about how like lovely
and down to earth Drew is
Maybe it’s
because they’ve been famous their whole
lives
You know like I know not everyone is
like this but like
I don’t know just know just knowing how
to be a human
like I think they really
know how to be humans
All right, so um let’s get into day two
a little bit
So now at this point we’ve
like left the Drew Barrymore show, but
we’re just doing all the uh
second unit
Is that
Yeah, I guess it was
And just I
I love like just putting myself back in
that space and it was like freezing in
New York, but like remember we like went
and got really good Mexican dinner that
night
M
it was like super
And then Mike from
Collector’s Call, amazing guy
He while we were at that dinner, he sent
us like 40 50 behind thes scenes
pictures he had taken
And he’s like, I know it’s kind of a
lot, but I just am really into
cherishing memories
And we were like,
are you kidding me
This is amazing
Like he’s the reason we have them all
We had no idea he was just like
taking tons of pictures behind the
scenes
It was so great
It was
funny
He was apologizing for like the
influx
were like, No, like this is you
are
this is our jam
Like, that was so
cool
I’m glad you mentioned that
Like,
yeah, we had like a good meal
We were
like just
pinching ourselves
like Yeah
in like like total like zen
zone like whatever
We didn’t know what
was happening
So, day two, um, we this
was already like obviously part of the
plan
So, we had done the Drew and War
show and we knew there was going to be a
second day with Collector’s Call
So
they had like set up in an office
building to do all the like basically
like film us like interviews with us
where they like stage the background
once again with like collection items
And I I mentioned that never been kissed
dress cuz there’s one part where like
they do Scott’s interview and you can
like see the never kiss dress just like
silhouated blurry in the background
It
looks so cool
But it was it was really it was really
cool
Like in one room they were doing
these like very good like steady cam
close-up shots of all the items and it
was and they were so good about like
having us bring them over, having us
handle them
Like they wanted to handle
the items as little as possible
They
were very cool and understanding about
that which makes sense with what their
show is
But right
it was very meaningful to us that they
were like, Okay, we need this item
now
Like they let us bring it over
Um, so that was happening in one room
and I have a couple like cool videos and
pictures of that, but mostly we were
just being present and then in the other
room they had like these talking head
one-on-one interviews with us and we had
to like set up the background, remember
Cuz like it was just this weird rented
space that like kind of looked like a
living room and so they had us like fill
in the background with whatever items
that we had that we thought looked good,
which was really fun
It’s like and they
were like, You’re barely going to see
this on the show
like don’t worry too
much about it and they were right
It was so just a flash and I remember
being so worried just like to like a
little bit more behind the scenes like
we had gotten our makeup professionally
done at the Jaringmore show and then for
the second day I was like I’m not going
to look the same
My hair’s going to
look like My makeup’s going to
look you know and and you can’t it’s so
fast and I think we look great in both
and like
um anyways
they were right
They know what they’re
talking about,
right
And the edit and Yeah
And the
editing, like
I guess I guess we’re almost to the
point where we’re going to say the
episode takeaways, but like I was so
worried that day being interviewed
I
kept like stumbling over my words and
messing up and I was like, They’re not
going to be able to use this
I was so
like, Uh
And then like the little
bits that are on the show, I’m like,
Oh, I don’t sound like an idiot and I
look fine
Not at all
That was also like a very um that moment
of I remember of like sitting in the
chair and the like lights and cameras
were on me and um there their Lisa
different Lisa Lisa Carl the producer
was like off to the side to ask me
questions and I had this very like oh
this is that moment you always see in a
documentary where the like the person
sitting down and getting ready to start
the interview
I was like I’m in that
moment right now
This is so weird
It
was surreal to be like, Yeah, the
lights are on me and they’re at they
they’re interested in what I have to
say
Like,
it was weird, but it was also like it
was so validating, right
Like I think
this like for them to be interested in
why we’re collecting, what like
why we love her, like
Yeah
being treated like the experts that we
are
So, uh, what else do we even
say about like that
I guess the one
other thing I’ll say about like this
that second day about like them
photographing stuff and like watching
them like, you know, set up the cards
with the lights and all that stuff
I
was just like, whoa, this is like it
feels like to us their collection items,
but it like I don’t know, it elevated
it
This whole thing kind of elevated
the things like I thought about the fact
that like wait, we basically have like
sort of exhibited them
Even though it was like Yeah
on the
show for a split second and on
collector’s call like for a split
second
Like technically be beyond our
online exhibit, we’ve now exhibited
them
It’s our popup
Our popup that you know only uh
people who watch the shows get to see
and pay attention to it for a second
Anyway, so so so surreal
Oh, so actually watching it again like
so much time had passed and so there was
a lot we didn’t remember
also like just
the whirlwind
You just kind of black
out at moments
It’s so weird how that
happens
Um but yeah, so it was so cool
to see the stuff I’d forgotten about,
especially the stuff with Drew
It was
such a like joyful and cute episode
Like there were all these fun little
animations that they did that we really
enjoyed
And then we provided, you know, a lot of
personal photos
Again, I’m sure that
they were so like grateful to us to be
those types of people that they could
say, Do you have a picture of this
This, this, this, this
And we were
like, Yep, here you go
All uploaded in
this folder
So, we gave them a
lot to work with and it it really it was
really neat like to see the old pictures
of us like at the beginning of our
friendship
And
so, so funny like a bunch of us from
like Yeah
One of the first times we
really really hung out and I’m like 15
with braces like
Yeah,
guys
like we are we have been doing
this a long time and it’s like it was
cool to have them go through the history
and like in such a beautiful positive
light like not that I expected anything
differently but like
I think because our story has such a
like wholesome
you know like we’re like we met on a
message board and we I don’t know
there’s just so much like I don’t know
the time and the consistency and the
like friendships that have like come out
of it like they were able to sort of
like play up our friendship like
Yeah, I think you’re right
I think I
mean there’s a lot of factors that play
as to why, but there’s I don’t think
from like if I’m trying to put myself in
an objective outsiders perspective who
watch the episode, I don’t think you’d
come away going, What a couple of
weirdos
Like I think you go, Oh, this is
actually really sweet and cool
Yeah, I hope so, too
And I think well I
also wonder like if they’ve had like
other collectors who are like friends
that collect
like a duo
I think they’ve had maybe like married
couple or something
Yeah, that’s what I was going to say
I
feel like they’re like couples or people
who live together or something
Very unique experience for them in a lot
of ways
Also, I thought it was really
fun
Um and I was sort of surprised
after dealing with the like crazy
clearance issues for the Drew Barrymore
show
It was kind of hilarious to me
that they included a picture of us with
Jolina and Tess without even like asking
them for their permission
It’s okay
They’re like, We’re on me TV
No one
cares
Nobody cares
And yeah, like we got to
we got to represent the Drewies guys
on TV
I And it was also like this is now they
used that term so much in their like um
marketing for the episode and the promo
I’m like this is so cool
Like finally
that term is like out there
Like
everyone knows like the Swifties or like
you know the beehive or whatever they
call it for Beyonce
I’m like now maybe
some people actually know what a Drewie
is
This is awesome
Some of the promo said things like
if you’re not a Drewie yet like you will
be after this episode or like it’s
really cute
It’s so cute
So guys, we are we were so
touched
Like I mean I think seeing the
episode I just had no idea what to
expect
Like I didn’t
I mean we’ve seen the episodes
We know
what that we know what Collector’s Call
is like
But like
but this was a weird one
Like and they
like also had to like pull these
different setups and different like
there was a lot of different pieces
It’s like how are these going to go
together
And they they pulled it off
great
They did it beautifully
And I will say
once again, you said something about the
animations, but there were so many
little cute ones
Like I’m sorry, I just
have to like point out like there was
one where like you had sent a picture of
like magazines on the ground and like
they animated them like boop boop boop
boop like one at a time like dropping
into the frame
I was like
that is so freaking cute
Um okay, so I don’t even know
what else there is to say
If you’re
here because of collector’s call, thank
you so much for coming and like
and say hi
Let us know
Yeah, please
say hi if you’re here because of that
If you’re one of the many friends who’ve
reached out like, How can I watch this
Working on getting that edited and up
I’m a little bit concerned that we won’t
be able to keep it up because we do not
own the copyright to this
I probably
shouldn’t even be saying that, but we’re
hoping that we’ll be able to edit and
keep it up
And if you’re listening to
this, it should be available
There you go
And that’s the plan
And because yeah,
this is like one of This is our exhibit
basically
We got to exhibit for TV and
the jersey got a little bit of play and
really cool
Like this has been our
hobby
And I’ll just say like another
thing about it
I remember I was so
stressed out
There were so many moments
I was stressed out working through this
and you’re like I’m I’m having fun
This
is my hobby
We get to like literally our hobby
became for like a it’s we didn’t get
paid for this but there’s so much about
it that like benefited us like
validating what we do continuing like
it’s encouraging to continue what we’re
already doing
It’s just a hobby
but it’s like I don’t know you know
it’s obviously worthy of television so
it’s it’s not just like stupid
and Drew cares about it
we have benefited her life personally
quote unquote
so hobby becomes whatever is above hobby
that is not you know like I don’t know
somewhere between like hobby and
profession
I mean I guess I mean it is technically
my career that I’ve made out of this I
don’t know
one of my friends she watched it she
loved it she’s like I really loved the
part where they like talked about Ann’s
career and showed the picture I was like
yes like I made her take that picture
because I was like you have to include
I’m glad they included it, too
I
thought it was I thought it was fun that
like
they asked what for pictures of me maybe
working or something and I was like, I
don’t know
I can take something silly
and it ended up being so cute
And it
was like even like then Lisa was able to
be like, you owe your career to Drew
Like it was it was well done
So, thanks
guys
I hope it was fun for you to hear
just sort of the background of how the
how the television is made
sort of fun
to like just know how it all came
together
It’s very meta, right
We’re like talking about talking
about doing it
And it was a lot
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Episode 115 – Us, November 1998
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| 34.35 | How do you drew |
| 37.35 | [Music] >> Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew |
| 40.35 | This is a Drew Barrymore podcast brought to you by the Drewseum |
| 43.35 | com and sponsored by our friends at positive medium |
| 46.35 | I’m an Ashley |
| 49.35 | Here we are yet again |
| 52.35 | >> Yes, we are |
| 55.35 | We are here with episode 115 >> How are we How are we still here |
| 58.55 | Our passion is just endless |
| 61.55 | >> Given up |
| 64.55 | >> How have we not run out of topics to talk about |
| 67.55 | How have we not given up |
| 70.55 | Like what was the statistic you read |
| 73.55 | Like podcasts a lot of times don’t make it past like 10 or something |
| 76.95 | It was like >> I mean it’s you know it’s hard but we like it guys |
| 80.20 | We’re here for you >> and us |
| 83.20 | This is a lot of this is for us |
| 86.20 | Um okay so do we get to like literally jump into Drew Loves right away |
| 89.70 | Like how fun |
| 92.70 | >> I love love |
| 95.70 | We got a lot this week |
| 98.70 | Are you ready |
| 101.70 | Drew loves all things beauty |
| 104.70 | Yes, she does |
| 107.70 | She loves perogis |
| 110.70 | >> I had them for dinner last night |
| 113.70 | You’re eating donuts and pizza while we’re recording and now you’re telling me that >> I’m so healthy |
| 118.70 | >> Calling you out |
| 121.70 | Drew loves Jean Smart |
| 124.70 | >> Benny Hill |
| 127.70 | [Laughter] >> Perfect |
| 130.70 | She loves Helman’s the mayonnaise part |
| 133.70 | She loves Greece, too |
| 136.70 | I can’t believe that wasn’t on our list |
| 139.70 | >> I’ve never seen it |
| 142.70 | >> Oh, really |
| 145.70 | >> It’s definitely She always says you can like tell if someone’s cool by if they like Greece, too |
| 150.60 | But it’s like really campy |
| 153.60 | Like, it’s not the same as Greece |
| 156.60 | Like, you have to like them in different ways |
| 159.60 | >> And I used to watch it together and like make fun of it |
| 162.60 | >> All right |
| 165.60 | Drew loves A Double Life |
| 168.60 | She loves Donald Glover |
| 171.60 | >> She loves when people are at least understanding of what someone else is doing |
| 175.65 | >> Basically, she likes tolerance |
| 178.65 | >> Okay, sit down |
| 181.65 | We’ve never had this on the list |
| 184.65 | Drew loves avocados |
| 187.65 | >> Can’t believe it had never come up |
| 190.65 | >> I mean, it’s just like we just haven’t come up |
| 193.65 | It hasn’t come up while we’ve been doing the podcast |
| 196.65 | Like, yeah, >> we’ve heard her say her we’ve heard her proclaim her love for avocados |
| 200.90 | She wanted to be buried under an avocado tree so she would her body would grow through the roots and into those avocados for her friends to eat |
| 205.90 | >> I I love it |
| 208.90 | I want that, too |
| 211.90 | She also loves a good flashback, which I’m like, hell yeah |
| 214.90 | That’s what we’re here for most of the time |
| 217.90 | >> And finally, Drew loves salads and soups |
| 220.90 | >> I like salads and soups |
| 223.90 | >> Actually, I shouldn’t say finally because guess what, guys |
| 226.95 | You get a bonus Drew love section later on in this episode because the article that we are covering literally has Drew love and list stuff |
| 231.95 | It’s fantastic |
| 234.95 | >> I was so happy to see that |
| 237.95 | It was just like, yes, we love lists |
| 240.95 | Give us more lists |
| 243.95 | >> Yes, I know |
| 246.95 | It’s so true |
| 249.95 | Open up her purse and tell us everything that’s inside of it |
| 252.95 | I I want to know |
| 255.95 | We want to know |
| 258.95 | You know, it’s all part of the details, the Drew details |
| 261.95 | Um Okay, so we are gonna go into our mailbag for a minute |
| 264.95 | >> You’ve got mail |
| 267.95 | >> Okay, this is a really cool one out of nowhere |
| 270.95 | We got a DM on Instagram on our Drew Zoom account from Danielle Geysinger and she is the woman who created the Marilyn Monroe dress for Drew’s 1996 cover of George magazine |
| 275.95 | So, if you don’t know, it’s it’s a recreation of the Happy Birthday Mr |
| 279.45 | President dress with all the, you know, the the nude colored with all the rhinestones on it |
| 284.00 | >> So, this is a a really interesting message |
| 287.00 | She thought originally we were Drew, which is why she was like, “It happens |
| 290.75 | Drew, remember the dress |
| 293.75 | ” And I was like, “No, but please tell us more |
| 296.75 | So, this is what she wrote to us |
| 299.75 | I had a couture studio in New York City for 25 years |
| 302.75 | Specialized in one-of-a-kind things for celebrities, print, and events |
| 306.25 | At the time, I worked a lot with Jordan magazine on many covers |
| 309.40 | the dress for Drew was special being a lifelong Marilyn fan |
| 312.40 | So, she was like stoked to make this recreation |
| 315.40 | >> Um, she said lots of research was involved |
| 318.40 | She needed the correct fabric to be found, which was called cotton marusette, which it says is found in France |
| 323.40 | So, like there was this like whole thing around it |
| 326.40 | They She said that Drew’s PR team only provided a few measurements, so the dress needed to be tight fitting with very little time on set for changes |
| 331.40 | And it says that they showed up on the studio in LA, zipped up the dress, and it was a perfect fit |
| 336.30 | Um, she remembers the big relief and says, “Oh, expertise and experience |
| 339.90 | ” She said, “Was a great moment |
| 342.90 | Also, hundreds of rhinestones applied in numerous long nights |
| 345.95 | ” >> Amazing |
| 348.95 | And she doesn’t know where the dress is now, which is such a bummer |
| 352.30 | >> I’m glad you asked |
| 355.30 | She also pointed out that she’s only credited in the magazine as a stylist |
| 359.00 | They didn’t actually credit her as designing the dress, which is like kind of a bummer because it sounds like it was a ton of work |
| 364.00 | And I wonder if she was generally like doing like >> I don’t know like how the crediting works with that kind of thing |
| 369.00 | If they’re just like how that encompasses anything to do with the wardrobe, >> right |
| 373.20 | >> But that’s a lot of work to make a whole thing |
| 376.20 | >> It’s a lot of work |
| 379.20 | Um she now solely designs hats |
| 382.20 | So I guess she’s over the dressing after this now, >> right |
| 385.20 | They’re the hats maybe are easier to fit, >> but so cool |
| 388.20 | We love firsthand info from people who did anything with Drew, especially like this |
| 392.35 | I mean, we throw around the word iconic a lot, but this is one of the iconic magazine covers of her career |
| 397.35 | >> Yeah, it was neat for her to be doing, you know, this Marilyn sort of um interpretation with George |
| 402.35 | And it’s a beautiful cover |
| 405.35 | And yeah, I think we’ve talked about this cover before, but there’s nothing of Drew inside, right |
| 410.20 | >> There’s one picture in the contents, >> okay |
| 413.20 | >> But you can’t see the dress really in that one |
| 416.20 | Um, >> and we have talked a lot about Drew and her love of Marilyn Monroe and her various homages and references over the years |
| 421.20 | We have a whole episode on that if you guys want to check it out |
| 424.40 | But yes, we we had some good feedback on that from Marilyn fans |
| 427.55 | So, like that was a really fun one that some good research went into |
| 430.95 | Yeah, it was a good one |
| 433.95 | >> So, the kind comments corner, we’re kind of shifting in this episode because there’s a reader mail in response to the magazine we’re covering that we are using for this segment |
| 438.95 | So, stay tuned for that |
| 441.95 | Um, all right |
| 444.95 | So, let’s go back in time |
| 447.95 | You know, we do this many times in every episode, but let’s do it for this week in Drew History |
| 452.70 | >> We love a flashback just like Drew |
| 455.70 | October 10th, 2009 was Drew’s sixth and final for now, knock on wood, time hosting, Saturday Night Live |
| 460.70 | And it was a record setting one |
| 463.70 | It made her the most uh hosted woman at the time, which unfortunately that record has been broken now |
| 468.70 | Scarlett Johansson, >> is she seven |
| 471.70 | Yeah, that’s right |
| 474.70 | But Drew Drew will be on again |
| 477.70 | My god, you know how I feel about this |
| 480.70 | I’m like, she’s right there |
| 483.70 | >> I mean, right away I’m like I don’t remember a lot of this one cuz you link to like the recap of the skits |
| 488.70 | I’m like, “Oh my god |
| 491.70 | ” And I just like saw I I love Fred Armison and they did this like Brenda and Shawn thing where they’re like really annoying and they’re in white like magic fingers |
| 496.70 | It’s like a digital I didn’t I didn’t really remember it either |
| 499.85 | I don’t remember it at all, but I’m like Drew in like a short brown wig |
| 503.40 | Like hilarious |
| 506.40 | I mean, wigs are one of the really fun things about Saturday Night Live |
| 509.95 | >> Um Memorably has the Barrymore impressions in the opening monologue where it’s supposed to be like her ancestors |
| 514.95 | That’s pretty fun |
| 517.95 | We have a whole episode at number 98 on ranking the monologues from her times hosting if you guys want to check that out |
| 522.95 | It’s pretty fun |
| 525.95 | Um, another pretty memorable skit, probably the most memorable within this appearance is the Gilly one |
| 530.95 | So, this is uh Kristen Wig |
| 533.95 | If you guys like don’t know the Gilly character, it’s worth looking up |
| 537.45 | It’s really silly |
| 540.45 | She’s like, is she Italian or Oh, no |
| 543.45 | Drew her Italian cousin, I think |
| 546.45 | Yeah, it says and Gilly |
| 549.45 | Um, the episode doesn’t have like some of our favorites |
| 552.45 | Like I was like, “Oh, when was Body Fusion |
| 555.45 | ” And that was like a couple years before |
| 558.45 | Yeah, it’s probably my least favorite of all of our times hosting |
| 561.70 | It just maybe because I’ve seen it the least, I don’t know, but it just like doesn’t grab me |
| 566.30 | >> I need to rewatch it like >> Well, of course only like half of it is on Peacock, so good luck |
| 571.10 | >> Of course |
| 574.10 | >> Of course |
| 577.10 | Um, there is, funnily enough, so our last episode we talked about Drew and her, of course, infamous 1995 flashing of David Letterman |
| 582.10 | There was a really brief reference to it um in the Bill Hater Vinnie Vadichi talk show skit and they talk about it very briefly but rehearsal photos because if you don’t know they take all the like press photos of SNL during the rehearsal so a lot of times they don’t match what actually airs which is like always kind of a trip to me |
| 587.10 | >> It really is |
| 590.10 | The rehearsal photos show that she like actually gets up on the table or the, you know, the desk and strips down to this tank top that says titty Vichi on it |
| 595.10 | >> I couldn’t fully read it, but that’s so great |
| 598.10 | >> They didn’t do that in the episode when it aired |
| 601.10 | >> I, you know, I realized like that that show is put together so quickly with Saturday Night Live |
| 606.00 | Like they start writing it at the beginning of the week and then they perform it at the end |
| 610.55 | So like things are they change like at the last minute and rehearsals I’m guessing the day before but who knows |
| 615.55 | >> No, I think it’s the day |
| 618.55 | I >> think it’s the same day |
| 621.55 | But like yeah, there are sometimes like wig changes and like rewrites |
| 625.00 | Um >> anyway, you had made a note here that Justin Long did a cameo as Matthew McConna skit, which I don’t remember it |
| 630.00 | Um but he was on stage at at the end during the Gumbies |
| 633.00 | They like always have everybody kind of like in the cast and anyone who appeared usually on stage and he’s holding hands with Drew and of course we like have such a fondness for them as a couple |
| 638.00 | So it’s really >> I’m pretty sure they were also like still trying to say they weren’t together |
| 642.75 | I’m like guys >> hello |
| 645.75 | >> Um one thing I do love about this episode are the bumper photos |
| 649.05 | Like these are some of my favorites of her by Mary Ellen Matthews as always |
| 652.80 | She’s been the SNL staffer forever, but these are amazing |
| 655.80 | So, if you guys don’t know them, we’ll definitely share some |
| 658.80 | I love the like stars on her face and some of them |
| 661.80 | There’s like one with the big red balloon |
| 664.80 | The colorization |
| 667.80 | Yeah, she just looks so freaking cool |
| 670.80 | >> It’s really neat |
| 673.80 | Like, yeah, the the way they messed with the saturation of the colors and she styled so cool |
| 678.40 | Like, we we tend to love her style in this area anyway |
| 681.40 | We have a whole episode on that, too, guys, if you want to listen to that |
| 685.05 | That’s true, guys |
| 688.05 | We’ve gone over so many little pieces of things we talk about |
| 691.10 | The crossovers are just endless |
| 694.10 | >> Yeah, we could be here forever if we tried to say every episode we’re referencing in the past |
| 698.90 | All right, so let’s kind of come back to the present and talk about what’s new with Drew |
| 703.30 | Here we go with the news, everybody |
| 706.30 | Okay, so Drew made a fun little appearance at the Atlanta CBS station, WBS, to promote the show |
| 711.05 | Um, I guess they like must do really well there |
| 714.05 | I saw some picture where the numbers, it was like the number one for the show was in that market |
| 718.85 | Um, so that must be why she went and there’s a lot of really cute pictures of her with the staff there |
| 723.85 | A bunch of people had posted stuff |
| 726.85 | She also did a sitdown interview, but um, I haven’t been able to find that video online |
| 731.20 | I even asked the interviewer and she said that it would be on there, but I don’t see it |
| 735.55 | So, it’s a bummer |
| 738.55 | Love to see that |
| 741.55 | So, yeah, hopefully we’ll be able to see it |
| 744.55 | And I just noted that she’s in like a monochromatic outfit, like head to toe gray, including the shoes |
| 749.55 | And I feel like that’s something they’re doing a lot with like her style |
| 753.15 | >> I’ve also noticed um and I just like messaged Matthew Kilgore about it |
| 756.80 | She seems to be really into these very wide belts right now |
| 759.80 | Have you noticed that |
| 762.80 | Like belting everything |
| 765.80 | >> But yeah, it’s it’s cute |
| 768.80 | And like I mean I guess maybe we’re trying to see what the season six style is |
| 772.70 | >> And I feel like that’s where it’s at |
| 775.70 | Yeah, like kind of cool |
| 778.70 | >> All right |
| 781.70 | Um, so another event, so she’s kind of been like out a little bit |
| 784.95 | >> Yeah, it’s so fun |
| 787.95 | >> Drew also attended a support and feed fundraising event, which is an organization founded by Billy Isish’s mom, Maggie Bard or Baird |
| 792.95 | Um, that is quote working toward a global shift to an equitable plant-based food system unquote |
| 797.70 | >> Sounds cool |
| 800.70 | >> Yeah, >> super cool |
| 803.70 | And Drew looks really cute and kind of natural |
| 806.70 | Like she looks like she’s running out |
| 809.70 | And I we love Billy Eyish in my house |
| 812.70 | I’m always like happy to see Drew and her together |
| 815.70 | >> Oh, yeah |
| 818.70 | Sadder news, but not surprising news |
| 821.70 | >> We’ve been reporting on this for a really long time, guys |
| 824.70 | Like, we saw the writing on the wall probably over a year ago |
| 827.75 | Like, Flower Beauty, something was going on |
| 830.75 | Aka nothing was going on |
| 833.75 | And we’ve just kind of been feeling like it’s going to it’s something’s going on |
| 837.75 | And then Drew actually told us in person when we were at the Drew Barrymore show that she was stopping both Drew magazine and Flower Beauty |
| 842.75 | And for some reason I’m like we keep telling you guys but like people don’t don’t want to accept it, you know, like it’s straight from her mouth |
| 847.75 | Not everyone is hearing us |
| 850.75 | She said like um you know she was just doing too much and she was like going to have a nervous breakdown and we were totally like >> What was that thing you said like the balance beam |
| 855.75 | the Simone Biles balance beam moment because she’d been talking about that earlier that day |
| 860.30 | So, anyway, Mesa, which was sort of like the parent company to Flower Beauty, they finally gave an official statement to um a publication called Beauty Independent, and it did confirm the end of Flower Beauty |
| 865.30 | Sad, sad, sad |
| 868.30 | We will link to that article, but just a couple little quotes |
| 871.35 | They said, “Flower Beauty will always hold a special place in Mesa’s story |
| 875.05 | As part of our strategic evolution, Mesa has decided to exit the color cosmetics category |
| 879.50 | ” Which is like kind of interesting because I don’t think that’s the real reason |
| 883.50 | >> And I thought it was interesting, too |
| 886.50 | >> They also said, “We have been fortunate enough to have Drew Barrymore as a great founder partner, and we are grateful for the incredible journey we have shared |
| 891.50 | ” >> The end |
| 894.50 | It’s sad cuz we’ve like even though I’m not a huge makeup wearer like we’ve been of course supporting the brand since it >> started long 12 years more almost 13 |
| 899.50 | It’s a bummer, but I’m also like, you know, there there are so many like things we got out of it, like different photo shoots and like oh my gosh, you know, I mean, I don’t know |
| 904.50 | It’s Drew had to do what she had to do, but yeah, it’s another >> fully support her doing what’s best for her, but it’s also like the end of an era and it makes us a little sad |
| 909.50 | >> These those transitions are always hard |
| 912.50 | Okay, so then uh is this our like last news before we get into the weekly topic |
| 916.45 | Um, Drew also attended the broadcasting and cable hall of fame event where she was honored as an inductee |
| 921.45 | Hey, that’s pretty cool |
| 924.45 | >> Thank you so much for having me tonight |
| 927.45 | I am so honored |
| 930.45 | >> And she had Valerie Burtonelli, Ember Trusale, you know, who is a longtime flower film staffer and the current president |
| 935.45 | >> And then also um the Jermore Show’s executive producer, Jason Curts |
| 938.95 | our buddy Jason |
| 941.95 | >> Our friend Jason |
| 944.95 | Yeah, we’ve been on a Zoom call with him, guys |
| 947.95 | We know him |
| 950.95 | So, she had a little crew with her and that’s really cool |
| 953.95 | >> Hey, Drew |
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| 997.90 | >> Thank you |
| 1000.90 | >> Okay, so I guess we can get into this really fun weekly topic |
| 1004.10 | Uh, we realized we were due for a magazine |
| 1007.10 | Yeah, I know |
| 1010.10 | Oh, it’s been kind of a little bit of time |
| 1013.10 | And this has always been one that I really loved |
| 1016.10 | Probably because it it hit right when you know in 1998 |
| 1019.10 | We’ve become super fans at this point |
| 1022.10 | >> I was trying to remember if I bought it off the stands and I had to have |
| 1025.85 | >> I bet you did |
| 1028.85 | I had to have |
| 1031.85 | Anyway, continue |
| 1034.85 | >> It’s just one of those like the photos I’m like, “Oh, they’re really cute |
| 1038.65 | ” They’re not like, “Oh, this is so important to me, the photos |
| 1041.80 | ” But I always love >> the nostalgia |
| 1044.80 | And there’s like a lot of tidbits galore as we were mentioning in this one that we really love |
| 1049.50 | Um, just a little context on top for anybody who wasn’t around in the 90s buying magazines |
| 1054.00 | >> Before we had this crappy US Weekly that we have now, prior to that, US was a really cool magazine |
| 1059.00 | Um, it was a publication from the editors of Rolling Stone and it had in always like incredible articles, these amazing photo shoots |
| 1064.00 | Like I had so many pictures on my wall from us |
| 1067.00 | They always did that Young Hollywood issue that was amazing |
| 1070.00 | >> And then in March 2000, they switched over to the Weekly, which became just like the I mean, it’s it’s crap |
| 1075.00 | It basically really quickly became like a rag mag |
| 1078.00 | And it’s like horrible quality paper and printing like these days |
| 1081.25 | >> But, you know, the the publication industry is weird |
| 1084.25 | It’s either like like that or it’s like really nice and kind of expensive, you know, like like an art magazine >> because we love paper |
| 1089.25 | >> Oh my god |
| 1092.25 | I feel like I should have this ready all the time |
| 1095.25 | >> I love paper |
| 1098.25 | >> We don’t like crappy paper as Weekly |
| 1101.25 | >> We do not |
| 1104.25 | Um, and guys, speaking out about another episode because we’re just going to reference ourselves for the rest of eternity |
| 1109.25 | Um, on episode 15, which feels like forever ago, a hundred episodes ago |
| 1112.80 | >> Ah, exactly |
| 1115.80 | That’s so cool |
| 1118.80 | >> It’s so cool |
| 1121.80 | We covered the 1997 US cover feature |
| 1124.80 | So, if you want to go back and listen to that, like >> wild that it just h we didn’t decide to do this because 100 episodes had passed |
| 1129.80 | Like anyway, so we have a couple um things just before we jump into the article |
| 1133.75 | The article was written by Joanna Schneller |
| 1136.75 | Um she interviewed Drew again in 2015 for um a Canadian uh magazine or I don’t know if it’s like a newspaper magazine |
| 1141.75 | Yeah, the Globe and Mail, but we can’t access it |
| 1144.75 | It’s behind a payw wall |
| 1147.75 | So be cool to see that considering how fun this article is, right |
| 1151.00 | >> Um, and we’ll be including lots of direct quotes from the article because it’s written in such a fun way and the author like really made an effort |
| 1156.00 | I I love that you’re describing it this way like catching Drew’s like voice like her enthusiastic way of speaking |
| 1161.00 | She’s like >> really trying to get it across like it’s fun |
| 1164.00 | So if like we’re going to read a lot but it’s fun to like read it through like look at it cuz there’s a lots of like italicizing |
| 1169.00 | I was going to say like just a little behind the scenes for you guys |
| 1172.40 | Normally when I pull direct quotes into our notes, I italicize them, but there was so many italics in this article, I couldn’t do that, so I ended up using like a highlighter instead |
| 1177.40 | [Music] >> Okay |
| 1180.40 | >> Some other credits |
| 1183.40 | The photos were done by Mark Baptiste and hair and makeup both were done by the old standby Jillian Frink, also known as Jillian Dempsey |
| 1188.40 | Um, do we want to talk a little about Jillian |
| 1191.40 | Because I I know we’ve mentioned her, but >> No, it’s fun |
| 1194.40 | It’s fun to kind of do it in in situations like this |
| 1197.40 | So, she did literally dozens of photo shoots with Drew from the mid 90s through the early 2000s |
| 1202.15 | like she was the one that was always she usually did makeup, but she sometimes would do hair as well |
| 1207.15 | Um the earliest collabs that I could find in our records, which are a little incomplete for hair styling and makeup credits, we’re working on that |
| 1212.15 | Um but they were from 1995 cuz she did the Italian Glamour, which is that like um leopard print >> uh shoot |
| 1217.15 | And then she also did Saturday morning cartoons |
| 1220.15 | So that’s really cool |
| 1223.15 | I don’t know which came first |
| 1226.15 | >> Interesting |
| 1229.15 | That’s cool |
| 1232.15 | >> I found Yeah, I found a quote where she said, “I met Drew Barrymore at a Vanity Fair shoot and she and I became fast friends |
| 1237.15 | I worked with her and traveled all over the world with her for seven or eight years, but the only Vandy Fair shoot that Drew did like in that time frame would have been 1999 |
| 1242.15 | ” So, I think she might be misremembering a little bit there, which is okay |
| 1245.90 | >> I’m wondering if it like kicked off like more of a consistent thing |
| 1249.40 | >> Yeah, I don’t know |
| 1252.40 | Or maybe they I don’t know |
| 1255.40 | They work together so much |
| 1258.40 | It’s hard to believe that like that was a turning point, but >> that must have somehow been memorable |
| 1263.40 | Like, who knows |
| 1266.40 | Um, it’s kind of a unknown fact and the only reason we know this is because it’s in her divorce papers to Tom Green, but Drew was a silent part owner of Jillian’s first beauty brand, which was called Deluxe Beauty |
| 1271.40 | So, that’s like kind of a neat thing |
| 1274.40 | We love Deluxe |
| 1277.40 | We used to go to Sephora and try it on |
| 1280.40 | I had like >> get chimpy blue |
| 1283.40 | >> Chimpy Blue with the eyeliner |
| 1286.40 | And I think I finally figured out the red lipstick I liked was called Clovis |
| 1290.20 | And they were familiar |
| 1293.20 | >> They were really nice |
| 1296.20 | Like I remember really liking those products |
| 1299.20 | >> Yeah, I feel like I had another like blue like chimpy blue and then one other like greeny one |
| 1304.00 | And I loved them so much |
| 1307.00 | >> Yeah, that that sounds familiar |
| 1310.00 | >> I remember us putting Deluxe Beauty on um it was before one of the premieres, >> the full throttle premiere |
| 1315.00 | >> Yeah, >> totally |
| 1318.00 | >> And it’s so funny |
| 1321.00 | I always forget that I met Jillian at a Sephora event on Halloween in 2004 |
| 1324.70 | I don’t know why she had an event on Halloween, but I like it must have been in Orange County |
| 1329.35 | That’s where I was living and I went there and I got to meet her |
| 1332.55 | I have a picture with her and I think I’m sure I told her I was a huge Drew fan |
| 1336.50 | She was super sweet |
| 1339.50 | So, it’s funny |
| 1342.50 | I always forget that happened and then I go, “Wait a minute |
| 1345.50 | ” >> That’s so funny |
| 1348.50 | We have a lot of those |
| 1351.50 | Like we’ve met a lot of people in Drew’s circle >> cuz we’re like I mean like when I tell the story of meeting Drew the first time and then seeing Chris and just saying like Chris like people don’t know him unless they’re paying attention to like her crew, you know |
| 1356.50 | >> Of course |
| 1359.50 | So anyway, I was trying to remember if it was Jillian in MTV Diary, which is a an incredible program that we loved, and you probably have heard us talk about it before, but there’s this hilarious little bit with like Flossy |
| 1364.50 | And did Jillian draw on the mustache and the eyebrows |
| 1367.50 | >> Yeah, they’re actually playing with the Deluxe Beauty products at that point |
| 1371.45 | >> Yeah, so they’re like they put like eyebrow they draw eyebrows on Flossy and like a little mustache |
| 1376.45 | And then Drew says, I don’t know what the context is, but she’s like, a little mustache |
| 1380.80 | Anyway, yeah, there there are a couple like funny little bits |
| 1383.85 | There are many little bits from diary that we in our personal life quote |
| 1387.45 | It just seeped into our brains |
| 1390.45 | They call uh Drew and Jillian call each other weird little elfie twins, and we definitely stole that |
| 1395.45 | >> Yeah, we definitely stole it |
| 1398.45 | Um, and then one more credit before we jump into the photos, the styling on this shoot was done by John Moore |
| 1403.45 | So, we had our kind of detour with Jillian |
| 1406.45 | We’re back to it, you guys |
| 1409.45 | Um, >> okay |
| 1412.45 | So, the photos you mentioned, they’re, you know, they’re not super exciting, but there’s a lot of nostalgia |
| 1417.45 | >> They’re very sweet and cozy, which we’ll talk about that |
| 1420.45 | Um, so they were shot in Santa Monica on the beach |
| 1423.45 | Um, and looks kind of like maybe the pier as well |
| 1426.45 | And I love your note here, like it’s on the beach, but it very much feels fall |
| 1430.35 | And I just think of I’ve been to like either Santa Monica or Venice in like the fall >> and it’s cold like the wind can be really cold |
| 1435.35 | So I’m just like like hey she’s wearing like a sweater here and yet it feels like weird |
| 1439.70 | >> Yeah, >> but you would not identify it as beach immediately |
| 1442.80 | That’s for sure |
| 1445.80 | In fact, like I think only because I’ve been there so often did I’ve at some point put it together |
| 1450.70 | Like I don’t think the magazine states it’s Santa Monica, but it’s very clearly Santa Monica if you know the area |
| 1455.70 | I could even identify one of the pictures looks like it’s done like in a parking lot right next to Shutters, which is a like famous place there |
| 1460.70 | Um >> let’s I want to just like talk about the pictures a little bit |
| 1464.10 | So I think the cover is darling |
| 1467.10 | >> I love this cover |
| 1470.10 | It’s so cute |
| 1473.10 | >> It’s so cute |
| 1476.10 | It’s a like beautiful framing of her face |
| 1479.10 | Quite close up |
| 1482.10 | She It’s It’s gorgeous |
| 1485.10 | She’s got a little smirk like >> little little Drew smirk and she’s just cozy with her sweater |
| 1489.80 | >> It’s very very adorable |
| 1492.80 | Um the photo in the credits I’ve always loved because it’s black and white |
| 1496.50 | It always feels a little bit more like I don’t know moody or something |
| 1500.00 | >> It’s definitely more moody |
| 1503.00 | She’s like in like tree branches too or something like that |
| 1506.00 | >> Or maybe >> the coloring of it is a kind of reminding me of the Mark Cigar um Rolling Stone like >> Okay |
| 1511.00 | >> black and white picture |
| 1514.00 | >> Just the coloring |
| 1517.00 | Just the coloring |
| 1520.00 | >> I see it |
| 1523.00 | >> Um and then the other like the one other picture that um I feel like this >> I feel like I had a copy of this page that has like this writing happily ever after like Drew cut out of it some point, right |
| 1528.00 | Like I’m have that, too |
| 1531.00 | That’s so funny |
| 1534.00 | I love this picture |
| 1537.00 | This is probably my favorite |
| 1540.00 | She’s hanging from these like exercise rings or I don’t know |
| 1543.00 | Gymnastics rings |
| 1546.00 | They’re right there like at Muscle Beach |
| 1549.00 | You can see the pier in the background of one of the pictures |
| 1552.05 | >> Yeah, you can see the butterfly tattoo, which I thought is fun because the last issue of us has the butterfly picture |
| 1557.05 | >> But yeah, this one’s just so playful |
| 1560.05 | Even though I think her shoes are really weird in this, uh, it’s a really cute picture |
| 1564.35 | Yeah, this it I mean kind of overall it feels like very toned down |
| 1567.65 | So like yeah, she was styled and she was like the makeup was done but she’s it’s super natural |
| 1572.35 | Superal, >> not super natural, but super natural |
| 1575.35 | Um they’re they’re really sweet and she’s basically just wearing all black |
| 1579.05 | It’s a very toned down |
| 1582.05 | Like the whole thing’s very toned down |
| 1585.05 | And I do love the last one as well where she’s like on a car in the parking lot because you can see her cross tattoo |
| 1590.05 | Did you guys know we love a tattoo peak |
| 1593.05 | Because we do |
| 1596.05 | >> We definitely do |
| 1599.05 | Um and then of course the magazine as magazines do they have like sometimes other like unrelated photos |
| 1604.05 | Um so those appear inside this |
| 1607.05 | Um like there’s a picture of is that who is that with Drew |
| 1610.05 | So yeah there’s a picture say it’s Jade >> and it Yeah |
| 1613.05 | So, there’s a picture of Drew holding hands with a woman and it says it’s Jade, but it is not |
| 1617.70 | I don’t know who it is |
| 1620.70 | I tried to like figure it out |
| 1623.70 | It was at that um Screen Actor Guild 50th anniversary thing we were just talking about offic I couldn’t figure out |
| 1628.70 | I’m like, it could just be some woman who was taking her to the stage, like helping her |
| 1633.05 | That’s true |
| 1636.05 | That’s true |
| 1639.05 | And then there’s a picture of Drew with Luke |
| 1642.05 | She kind of gets into that loveydvey thing |
| 1645.05 | And then there’s also a photo of Drew with Courtney Love and Eric Erlinson in the background |
| 1649.65 | And there’s some quotes from Courtney |
| 1652.65 | So, it’s neat that they kind of like included all these >> relevant things, but unfortunately we’re wrong about Jade |
| 1657.65 | That’s a bummer |
| 1660.65 | Um, there are a lot of outtakes from this photo shoot, which is exciting |
| 1664.25 | Um, they’ve been available over the years through photo agencies |
| 1667.45 | And then also other magazines printed them |
| 1670.45 | Um, especially the 17 from December 1999 cover and feature on Drew featured some of these and including those like kind of amusement park looking ones where it looks like she’s on a ride of some sort |
| 1675.45 | I tried to find the ride |
| 1678.45 | I didn’t have any luck |
| 1681.45 | But yeah, there’s some really cool out takes |
| 1684.45 | I feel like we do have like a full a full page of one of these out takes that’s like from a foreign magazine or something |
| 1689.45 | I had for I had forgot or just haven’t thought about for a while that these it was used as a cover for 17 like a year after |
| 1694.45 | >> Yeah, >> cheating |
| 1697.45 | >> Um but they at least they printed like all different ones |
| 1700.45 | >> That’s true |
| 1703.45 | >> That’s the good thing |
| 1706.45 | >> I’ll give him that |
| 1709.45 | [Music] >> All right |
| 1712.45 | Are you ready for the article |
| 1715.45 | The main reason we’re here, guys |
| 1718.45 | >> Yeah, absolutely |
| 1721.45 | >> As Ann mentioned, the article is called Happily Ever After, and it’s got that classic us font that it’s like put in on the page, which I love |
| 1726.45 | >> Kind of blocky |
| 1729.45 | >> Blocky angled |
| 1732.45 | >> And the by line, which we always kind of like to put this at the top because it tells us what’s to come, >> is after a rocky start as a movie star, she was an alcoholic at age nine |
| 1737.45 | Drew Barrymore has come up smelling like ivory soap and looking like a slice of pink and yellow birthday cake |
| 1742.45 | Of course, there is that little matter of a family curse |
| 1745.45 | Dot dot dot |
| 1748.45 | It’s like ominous at the end |
| 1751.45 | I like But I that birthday cake thing I I mentioned in our last uh episode at the end when we were talking about this article like I’ve always remembered that birthday cake thing |
| 1756.45 | I think we even used that |
| 1759.45 | Remember how on the old version of the Drew, we used to put a little quote >> about true and I think that was one of them once |
| 1764.45 | >> I bet I bet we did because that would have made a perfect little image |
| 1768.10 | We used to put like the image of whatever the descriptive thing was |
| 1771.45 | >> Um, okay |
| 1774.45 | So, the article opens with Drew exclaiming that she’s always wanted to have head lice, which is like so silly, but it was all because she was thought it would be a great excuse to get out of school cuz like you know, every kid who gets lice, you don’t want to give it to other kids |
| 1779.45 | We know how to hilarious about school as a child |
| 1782.45 | It’s just a funny It’s a funny introduction to how kind of random Drew can be also |
| 1786.55 | >> Um and then Drew stops to gush gratitude to the waiter who’s just brought her iced tea |
| 1791.00 | We know she is a fiend for the iced tea |
| 1794.00 | And this is the first kind of quote of her |
| 1797.00 | She says, “All I want in life is a cold drink |
| 1800.00 | ” She drinks and makes enthusiastic ooh uh ah noises |
| 1803.00 | So then she goes on to like coming back to the headlice |
| 1806.00 | She says her karma is probably going to be that she’s going to get lice later in life and she’ll have to suffer |
| 1811.00 | >> Before you get into these quotes, like I love that the writer says that Drew quote launches headlong into everything including these stories |
| 1816.00 | But it’s like yes she does when she like goes she goes like full in |
| 1819.35 | So, she talks about getting allergic reactions when she was first meeting with uh who we know to be Wayne Maer, who was the photographer of the guest campaign |
| 1824.35 | And then again, more recently while she was doing Ever After Press and she says both times she was covered with hideous like blotches like a puffer fish that has acne or something |
| 1829.35 | >> You know those cool little isms that we do |
| 1832.35 | >> Sometimes I feel like a puffer fish with acne |
| 1835.35 | I totally get that |
| 1838.35 | >> The way that Drew describes things are accurate descriptions and that’s one of the reasons why it’s so great |
| 1843.35 | Like they make us laugh and feel what she’s trying to describe |
| 1846.45 | It’s so great |
| 1849.45 | >> So, um Drew also shares that um spontaneous changes like those from allergic reactions freak out because like gradual ones are okay |
| 1854.45 | like suddenly finding that she likes jalapenos or getting her hair done or like the Grateful Dead and exercise |
| 1859.45 | >> Yeah, she’s like like these changes are fine when I’m like ch my tastes are changing versus like your body’s being puffy |
| 1864.45 | What a funny description |
| 1867.45 | >> Um and I then at the after this kind of flurry of stories |
| 1870.45 | I like that the article says that Drew quote sucks in a headful of iced tea |
| 1874.20 | She beams at me |
| 1877.20 | I have known her for five minutes |
| 1880.20 | If that doesn’t accurately sum up meeting Drew or hanging out with Drew, even if you don’t really know her, >> yeah, I don’t know what does |
| 1885.20 | It’s so good |
| 1888.20 | >> Okay, so I had to pull this whole paragraph because we always love We always love these when in the article it like sets the scene |
| 1893.20 | Where are they |
| 1896.20 | What is she wearing |
| 1899.20 | Um, this one does it so masterfully |
| 1902.20 | Joanna, way to go |
| 1905.20 | >> I love it |
| 1908.20 | So, she says, “On this August day on a tiny restaurant patio in West Hollywood, Drew Barry Moore, 23, is wearing a blue button-down shirt, beat up khakis, and clunky funny shoes |
| 1913.20 | When she’s not playing with her hair, she tucks it behind her ears, each of which sports five earring holes, all empty |
| 1918.20 | She smells like ivory soap |
| 1921.20 | Drafts of clean air wash over me as she leans forward or sits back |
| 1924.50 | She looks like a college junior |
| 1927.50 | not the new kid anymore, but not quite ready to graduate |
| 1930.50 | She looks like a big happy slice of pink and yellow birthday cake |
| 1933.75 | She looks for possibly the first time in her 22year career her age, which is like, yeah, it’s funny |
| 1938.70 | Like, I still can’t look at her in 1998 and be like, she looks like a college kid, but she could have been |
| 1943.70 | Like, she >> Right |
| 1946.70 | It’s kind of weird |
| 1949.70 | Like I feel like she’s 22, but I’m also like I could be convinced even though I know Drew so well, like >> she looks like she’s 28 or like when I think about her career and everything she was doing at this point, like she’s only 22 |
| 1954.70 | Like we’re always doing that |
| 1957.70 | >> And I love that you pulled a couple of examples of like what the outfit that she was describing might have been like because we have such an archive of Drew’s like appearances and everything that we, you know, we can kind of look like this is when this is what it done |
| 1962.70 | We have pictures from August 98 of her in blue button-up shirts |
| 1965.85 | So, we’ll share some of those in the gallery |
| 1968.85 | >> And I was trying to think of what like chunky funny shoes we she would have been wearing |
| 1973.40 | Like, I don’t know |
| 1976.40 | I can’t think of like I all I can think of is like 99 like those like Adidas sandals or something, you know, like >> Yeah, it could be those |
| 1981.40 | >> Anyway, so this is another kind of funny description of the way Drew talks |
| 1985.25 | So, the writer observes that Drew talks in stream of consciousness sentences that Drew refers to as quote verbal waterfall syndrome |
| 1990.25 | Feels kind of like Drewism adjacent again |
| 1993.25 | >> I feel like we need to use that more |
| 1996.25 | She definitely has that |
| 1999.25 | >> I think so, too |
| 2002.25 | >> It just like gushes out of her |
| 2005.25 | >> Flagging that one |
| 2008.25 | >> But then Joanna points out that Drew is not to be underestimated because she has a light inside of her and she lets that light shine |
| 2013.25 | And guess what |
| 2016.25 | Someone called Drew a light, take a drink, guys |
| 2019.25 | >> It is no surprise that she is described this way, guys |
| 2022.25 | If you know anything about her, she is a light |
| 2025.25 | So, so then the article goes on to explain |
| 2028.25 | It says, “Everyone who knows her loves her |
| 2031.25 | ” The writer is told things like, “She’s a tireless philanthropist, a sponge who soaks up information, a vegetarian, an animal rights activist, an advocate for safe sex and optimism |
| 2036.25 | She has a little man in her, quote unquote, her father used to say |
| 2039.55 | She’s adorable, meaning you can’t not adore her |
| 2042.55 | She’s an honest to God hippie |
| 2045.55 | A ball of warm golden love |
| 2048.55 | Guys, this is another son |
| 2051.55 | Take another drink |
| 2054.55 | I love that one |
| 2057.55 | A ball of warm golden love |
| 2060.55 | That’s our girl |
| 2063.55 | >> So, we get some quotes from some of the people |
| 2066.55 | I love that this um author like went and talked to a bunch of people who know her |
| 2070.60 | So Andy Tenant, who of course is a director of the Amy Fischer story and Ever After, >> love this quote |
| 2075.60 | He said, “She’s a pinball |
| 2078.60 | Bang, bang, bang |
| 2081.60 | There’s so much life to live right now |
| 2084.60 | Today, by 10, it’s infectious |
| 2087.60 | You start to think that anything is possible |
| 2090.60 | ” >> Yes, >> yes |
| 2093.60 | And then Edward Norton said, “She is one of the very few people I know who has a sincere and self-motivated desire to give energy back to other people |
| 2098.60 | ” >> Oh, that’s so true |
| 2101.60 | I just have like one thought about that |
| 2104.60 | I was like, well, probably leaving like not a lot for herself |
| 2107.65 | >> Well, we know that |
| 2110.65 | >> I kind of get >> she’s the lowest priority on the rung |
| 2113.65 | We know that |
| 2116.65 | Um, >> she’s getting better |
| 2119.65 | >> Yeah, she’s getting better |
| 2122.65 | And then Courtney Love, who was a good friend at the time, says, “She really does not have a bad bone in her body |
| 2127.65 | She is non-malevolent |
| 2130.65 | She’s like a sister to me, somebody I would really fight to protect |
| 2134.00 | ” And she brings that out in all sorts of people |
| 2137.00 | >> That’s so true, too |
| 2140.00 | People want to protect her |
| 2143.00 | Is that what Whoopy Goldberg or or um >> Oh, Mary Louise Parker said that |
| 2146.65 | I >> think something like you want to just take care of her like everyone something like that >> or watch out for her |
| 2151.65 | Something to that effect |
| 2154.65 | Like Drew brings that out |
| 2157.65 | >> Definitely |
| 2160.65 | >> Um >> and the writer notes how strangers come up to Drew every single day, of course, but there’s a couple like kind of fun examples |
| 2165.65 | So, uh, it says Carla Hacken, who was the senior vice president at Fox 2000, um, tells a story of at least seven people coming to their table during a dinner, and she said Drew was so nice to every person, so unruffled, and each time she was able to go directly back to our conversation |
| 2170.65 | Like, as I was saying, my take on the script, she handled it with such grace and poise |
| 2174.95 | She was so adult |
| 2177.95 | I can totally envision it |
| 2180.95 | Like, you can totally see that, >> right |
| 2183.95 | She does it like on her show like she can just be talking to someone in the audience and then turn around and like go into professional mode |
| 2188.95 | >> And I love this |
| 2191.95 | There’s also another really brief story about a lady working behind the counter at McDonald’s in New Jersey who burst into tears when Drew walked in |
| 2196.95 | And then it says, “Drew being Drew cried right along with her |
| 2200.00 | ” I always loved that line so much |
| 2203.00 | It’s so It’s so true |
| 2206.00 | >> I loved my idea making Drew cry |
| 2209.00 | We’ve done it |
| 2212.00 | We’re so good at it |
| 2215.00 | So, there’s some fun notes on Drew |
| 2218.00 | Why Drew says she loves acting |
| 2221.00 | So, she says, “The character I’m playing now loves chocolate and I hate chocolate |
| 2225.05 | I would rather barf than eat chocolate, but how much fun is it to play someone who loves chocolate |
| 2229.95 | ” So, can I can I interject and be like, I don’t know, but I have to think of Josie Geller |
| 2234.45 | It has to be who she was talking about eating the brownie at the club |
| 2237.90 | >> Loves chocolate |
| 2240.90 | Um, and then she gives another example |
| 2243.90 | She says, “Or an ever after when I’m dealing with pain with my stepmother |
| 2247.55 | ” And yeah, I totally think of my own life and how much I am in need to have the conver that conversation with my own mother |
| 2252.55 | >> And in Scream, she said in Scream, when I was 3 years old, something really weird happened where a man tried to break into my house and I was there alone and it changed the way I slept forever |
| 2257.55 | You were there alone at three |
| 2260.55 | And also, what the hell |
| 2263.55 | >> What the hell |
| 2266.55 | >> 70s, >> right |
| 2269.55 | And then she says, “And Julia, oh my god, Julia from The Wedding Singer, she is the woman that I long to be |
| 2274.55 | The perfect girl |
| 2277.55 | She is so easy |
| 2280.55 | She is so not complex |
| 2283.55 | I love that |
| 2286.55 | ” And then like the writer notes that Drew will never not be complex because she thinks way too much |
| 2291.55 | >> Oh, I like that |
| 2294.55 | So, the article kind of runs down Drew’s former badg girl movie roles, which we we all are familiar with, and how she’s moved away from that |
| 2299.55 | And there’s a fun quote from Nancy Javon, who of course is her partner in Flower Films |
| 2303.85 | >> Nancy says, “We used to say we had a mandate against Wild Girl Parts |
| 2307.40 | Now we just say we don’t love them, unless of course it’s the best trailer park script ever |
| 2311.95 | ” Nancy, I love that so much |
| 2314.95 | I mean, I’d be here for Drew playing a trailer park slit again |
| 2318.05 | Okay, so the the article does get into the early days of Flower Films, which was started in 1995 |
| 2322.85 | It says, “With a laptop computer and a notebook full of phone numbers, and it says that um it mentions their 1996 RV trip, which we mentioned recently because there was some tidbit |
| 2327.85 | Do you remember what it was |
| 2330.85 | ” >> Oh, yeah |
| 2333.85 | Um >> Oh, the pot |
| 2336.85 | leaving in a hotel room |
| 2339.85 | >> Oh, yeah |
| 2342.85 | That’s right |
| 2345.85 | In New Orleans |
| 2348.85 | So, she mentions that trip to the RV trip in 1986 |
| 2351.85 | Um that that she took with Nancy and they would she said they would record ideas that they had like where are those tapes |
| 2356.85 | >> Oh my god |
| 2359.85 | >> Like they’re probably gone |
| 2362.85 | But how cool would that be to just have like them like >> like spewing their own ideas |
| 2367.15 | >> Flower Films archives |
| 2370.15 | I know who’s doing it |
| 2373.15 | We should be doing it |
| 2376.15 | But now we’re in 1998 and they are a full-fledged company |
| 2379.15 | At that time they had an all female staff and a projects in development and it’s kind of wild cuz like their first official production hadn’t even come out yet when this article was out |
| 2384.15 | It’s really neat |
| 2387.15 | >> Kind of cool |
| 2390.15 | >> Um the description of their offices love because we have been lucky enough to see this on mostly on MTV diary |
| 2395.15 | Um, so this description, their offices on Sunset Boulevard in West Hollywood are MTV meets romper room |
| 2400.15 | The walls painted yellow and green and midnight blue and decorated with photos and movie posters and an amusingly large 45 RPM record of Yellow Submarine |
| 2405.15 | And I went and was able to pull like a screen cap of it |
| 2408.15 | Um because there is that tiny little bit of like diary footage on YouTube and when they show it, Drew says she points to it and says because you have to have the Beatles everywhere |
| 2413.15 | I thought that was fun |
| 2416.15 | >> It’s really cute |
| 2419.15 | We love again like descriptions of spacesh why why do we love them so much |
| 2422.85 | because we love her and there’s always like fun details like you know I feel like this was making me think of like >> they were talking about her house in like 95 and how there were like rooms painted all these bright colors and like >> yes >> it’s just so Drew so anyway and we know that she’s made her offices fun like that was something that she did um >> so she notes that in September they had wrapped principal photography for never been kissed um the Fox executive vice president Kevin McCormack said three years that’s record time |
| 2427.85 | The deal works because Drew knows the audience she wants to reach |
| 2431.10 | And I love that like it says kind of after this that Courtney Love is quoted as saying Drew knows her face, which is so true |
| 2436.10 | Like she >> she knows the power of being Drew even though she doesn’t understand herself as Drew Barrymore |
| 2441.10 | >> That’s interesting |
| 2444.10 | What a weird life to be famous like that |
| 2447.10 | >> To be like so famous like to be iconic from the time you’re like Todd Gold said like iconic since Gertie |
| 2452.10 | Um, and then Nancy says, “When I first met her, I used to say she was an eight-year-old boy and a 40-year-old woman in the same body |
| 2457.10 | Now I see a mature young businesswoman who is not only looking after her own best interests, but also has a lot of serious people asking that she look after their best interests, too |
| 2462.10 | ” And she’s doing it |
| 2465.10 | >> Hell yeah |
| 2468.10 | A little bit more about Never Been Kissed |
| 2471.10 | So, Fox originally wanted to cast a very stereotypically unattractive actress and Drew had tried to convince them that it’s not her appearance that makes her different from everyone else |
| 2476.10 | Um, and yeah, this is so silly because we know that when Drew was kind of dressing herself down to play Josie Gross, the the studio was like, “No, you can’t be like >> too far |
| 2481.10 | No, you can’t let you can’t do that to Drew Barrymore |
| 2484.10 | ” >> God, it’s like you can’t satisfy them |
| 2487.10 | Um and then the um vice president Kevin McGormick, he said um Drew kept talking about a caterpillar who turns into a butterfly, which is a story she connects to |
| 2492.10 | Yeah, she does |
| 2495.10 | >> A that’s really cool |
| 2498.10 | I like that |
| 2501.10 | >> Yeah, it is |
| 2504.10 | >> I also like that she I mean Josie Grossy is definitely quote unquote like unattractively styled, but Josie Geller present day isn’t like >> horrible looking |
| 2509.10 | So I love that |
| 2512.10 | like Drew kind of >> awkward |
| 2515.10 | It’s not just that she looks a certain way |
| 2518.10 | So, she just like doesn’t get it |
| 2521.10 | She doesn’t know how to be cool |
| 2524.10 | >> She’s out of touch |
| 2527.10 | So, we get the usual rundown of the Barrymore history and how very young Drew followed in their footsteps with addictions, of course |
| 2532.10 | And you know where to go for more of that |
| 2535.10 | >> If you want to know more about that, >> go to our Patreon for our little girl loss breakdown |
| 2539.85 | [Laughter] >> Yeah, we have 16 exclusive episodes about how all that went down |
| 2543.75 | And then of course we get like the same old background on her parents |
| 2547.20 | Uh Jade taking her to clubs as a child |
| 2550.20 | I did like this little anecdote |
| 2553.20 | Yeah, me too |
| 2556.20 | Apparently, Gary Buucy, who was on the same party circuit, nicknamed Drew the Badger because she was shorter than everyone else, moved faster, and darted around close to the ground |
| 2561.20 | >> Gary Buucy |
| 2564.20 | >> I mean, Gary Buucy is is kind of a cook, so I love that |
| 2567.20 | So, as usual, Drew does not blame her parents for what happened |
| 2570.35 | This is a this is a constant |
| 2573.35 | Uh, she said her parents had problems of their own |
| 2576.35 | She said, “I learned early on that my family as far as my mother and father were not an option |
| 2581.05 | ” Once again, like this is said explicitly in Little Girl Loss |
| 2584.15 | Like she has epiphany with her father, like he’s not he can’t be a father and then with her mother, she can’t be >> a mother |
| 2589.15 | Like >> crazy |
| 2592.15 | >> Um, she lists her hard air quotes godparents, Anna Strawber and Steven Spielberg |
| 2596.30 | And the reason I’m saying that is because people think that she was like born into this privilege and that she grew up with them |
| 2601.30 | That’s not that’s not the case |
| 2604.30 | They became honorary paternal and maternal figures in her life |
| 2607.40 | >> Um so she lists them as people who quote had dreams and saw them through but didn’t hurt people along the way |
| 2612.40 | And that was the greatest lesson |
| 2615.40 | You can make your destiny be this amazing entity but you don’t have to people over |
| 2619.50 | >> That’s so true |
| 2622.50 | Like that was a real life takeaway |
| 2625.50 | And then of course she like laughs about the story about Steven Spielberg covering up all her Playboy pictures with superimposed clothes |
| 2630.50 | She said she loved it because it was funny and fatherly but it didn’t make her feel bad like it wasn’t like guilting her |
| 2635.50 | >> Yeah, totally |
| 2638.50 | Um and then she has a lot of nice things about to say about co-stars that she had in the past |
| 2643.15 | So she’s adopted as family periodically |
| 2646.15 | Like she’s had many of these work families |
| 2649.15 | many um but she talked about Goldie Han and Whoopi Goldberg and then she talked about Jeff Bridges and I just liked the Jeff Bridges thing because it wasn’t so long ago that he was on the show and she >> Yes |
| 2654.15 | It was a very similar thing that she said to him, >> like paternal, like she was like she always felt like he was like fatherly |
| 2659.15 | So she said that he was so kind on the set like kept her grounded when it was a super strange time in her life and I hadn’t really really thought about like she was 13 >> and going through the New York club time for her |
| 2664.15 | So I’m glad I was like remembering right that like she they did talk about that kind of paternal thing and it was it was sweet |
| 2669.15 | It was kind of sweet to see them on the show and like >> it was really good one |
| 2673.10 | >> There was some tenderness |
| 2676.10 | But anyway, one of those many examples where Drew has like found sort of a fatherly figure, a family figure on a set |
| 2681.10 | >> Examples |
| 2684.10 | I think we want to do an episode on that eventually |
| 2687.10 | But anyways, as far as her actual biological parents at this point, she doesn’t see Jade by choice |
| 2692.00 | And John sometimes lives in an apartment above her garage, which is like exactly what she was just telling Bill Maher |
| 2697.00 | >> And that he was coming and going without her knowledge |
| 2700.00 | And she says, quote, “At times it’s painful, and at times I’m so at one with it |
| 2703.95 | And that’s taken me a lot of years |
| 2706.95 | It’s taken me a lot of therapy |
| 2709.95 | ” Aka call back to Little Girl Lost |
| 2712.95 | So, I love that this next part is sort of like, why does this work |
| 2716.25 | Like, why is this girl so lovable and why is she not annoying |
| 2719.30 | Like, it could be annoying how she is, but she’s not |
| 2722.30 | She pulls it off |
| 2725.30 | So, it describes this is at one point Drew actually says to the author, “It’s nice when you get a cold |
| 2730.30 | It makes you appreciate being healthy so much |
| 2733.30 | ” And I nod enthusiastically |
| 2736.30 | >> I like that |
| 2739.30 | Nod enthusiastically is italicized |
| 2742.30 | Like the author almost can’t believe that she’s like going along with this, >> right |
| 2746.50 | >> But it’s so true |
| 2749.50 | I’ve said that so many times |
| 2752.50 | I know I got it from this article, but it’s so true |
| 2755.50 | When you can freaking breathe after your nose is stuffed up, you’re just like, “Oh my god, what a gift |
| 2760.50 | ” >> Well, I I feel like I think about that when I have like a foot or like a hand that hurts and I’m like, “Oh, I so like need this so much that it makes you appreciate like not having it suddenly |
| 2765.50 | ” >> Totally |
| 2768.50 | Anyway, um the home price director Dean Pariso thinks it’s because he says Drew genuinely likes people |
| 2773.50 | She looks at you and finds something that she likes rather than something she doesn’t |
| 2777.75 | >> That’s so true |
| 2780.75 | Even to this day, like sometimes she has people on her show where I’m like they’re a little problematic or whatever and she like has nothing but positive things |
| 2785.75 | And then we get this really great part from Courtney Love |
| 2788.75 | So, she says she loves that Drew is self-made and makes it makes Courtney appreciate the simpler things in life |
| 2793.75 | And then here’s this great story |
| 2796.75 | It says, “One night, love threw open Barry Moore’s closet, surveyed its jumbled, shiny, floaty, floral, and butterfied contents and said, “This has got to stop |
| 2801.75 | I can get you fabulous gowns, anything you want |
| 2804.75 | ” Barrymore said, “I don’t want any gowns as long as I wear flowers in my hair |
| 2808.65 | ” And Love said, “But Drew, then you don’t get the best dress |
| 2811.70 | ” Yes, Barrymore replied |
| 2814.70 | But you get the best soul |
| 2817.70 | That is so like I feel like in certain instances if someone said it, I’d be like, “Oh god |
| 2822.15 | ” But I’m like, “Yes, >> that’s the author’s point though |
| 2825.15 | Like why are we not annoyed by this |
| 2828.15 | It’s so loveydvey golden ball of love |
| 2831.15 | ” But it’s like amazing |
| 2834.15 | >> It is her |
| 2837.15 | That’s like somehow that actually is her |
| 2840.15 | So, we mentioned there’s a Drew love segment, but we got to get into the Drew hate segment, which comes first |
| 2845.15 | So, >> I hate it, right |
| 2848.15 | >> We love when Drew hates, >> right |
| 2851.15 | So, here we go |
| 2854.15 | So, this uh we’ve got flies |
| 2857.15 | She said they come and vomit on your food |
| 2860.15 | And by the way, they’re probably just sitting on a steaming pile of poo |
| 2863.70 | >> I hate flies, too |
| 2866.70 | >> I mean, yeah, when you think about that, for sure |
| 2869.70 | And then she hates being angry |
| 2872.70 | She says it’s a real waste of time |
| 2875.70 | Uh she hates when people talk |
| 2878.70 | And she hates when toilet paper comes off of a roll one square at a time |
| 2882.30 | And she says you can’t do anything with it |
| 2885.30 | I can so see her saying all of this |
| 2888.30 | So we’re going to jump into Drew Loves |
| 2891.30 | >> I love love |
| 2894.30 | >> All right |
| 2897.30 | Secondary Drew Love section |
| 2900.30 | Drew loves macaroni and cheese, sleeping late, watching movies in bed while eating macaroni and cheese |
| 2905.30 | The Otis reading song, That’s how strong my love is |
| 2908.30 | Children, quote, I long to have a family, she says |
| 2911.30 | Therapy, making up words |
| 2914.30 | And here are some examples |
| 2917.30 | Karmatic, horrification, and questionative |
| 2920.30 | She loves taking long drives and sticking her head out of the window like a dog |
| 2924.25 | >> Of course she does |
| 2927.25 | And she loves telling people that they have food caught between their teeth or gunk in their eye |
| 2932.05 | Quote, “You have to tell the person |
| 2935.05 | Don’t leave them hanging that way |
| 2938.05 | It’s just human stuff |
| 2941.05 | There’s nothing gross or wrong with it |
| 2944.05 | You’ve got to watch each other’s back |
| 2947.05 | ” Passionate |
| 2950.05 | Very passionate |
| 2953.05 | So, we’re there’s some more lovey lovey guys, you know what she loves more than anything |
| 2957.45 | >> I love love love |
| 2960.45 | >> So, specifically about Luke, Luke Wilson |
| 2963.45 | Um, he’s the greatest person I’ve ever met |
| 2966.45 | Everything I do, I think about how it affects him |
| 2969.45 | >> And the the article says that Wilson is a nice guy |
| 2972.45 | People say calm, understanding, reliable, and says he’s good for Barrymore |
| 2976.15 | >> Oh, he really was |
| 2979.15 | And uh there’s another quote from Luke |
| 2982.15 | It says, “I just asked her out |
| 2985.15 | It just seemed natural |
| 2988.15 | She makes you feel that at ease |
| 2991.15 | She makes so much of an effort in her dealings with people |
| 2994.15 | She’s so smart and funny and ready to laugh |
| 2997.15 | She has a way of making you forget all the stuff you may have heard or read about her |
| 3001.40 | ” >> Oh, that’s so true |
| 3004.40 | Um and then there’s a little more tidbit here |
| 3007.40 | So, it says, “Drew will be spending her third Christmas with Luke’s family in Texas |
| 3011.55 | ” And Luke talks about how nervous she was the first time |
| 3014.55 | And he said, “I remember thinking, how could this, if all things make you nervous, and then I realized maybe she wasn’t used to this |
| 3019.55 | Maybe it made her think about her own family, and she loved it, but it also made her a little sad |
| 3024.40 | ” And I just I mean there’s all that that’s like you know she like had that kind of healing thing with like Luke’s family and then I feel NY’s family right there was >> I mean Eric’s family before that like true >> this is a pattern for her Tom’s family later Will’s family later |
| 3029.40 | >> That’s true |
| 3032.40 | I mean I I like to picture in this case like Drew hanging out with like Luke Wilson and then her his brothers like Owen and Andrew like at Christmas time |
| 3037.40 | It’s kind of funny because the article doesn’t talk about he also has these brothers |
| 3041.60 | I also remember her talking about being at I think it was the first Thanksgiving with his family and she was so nervous that she was holding a plate of food and accidentally it >> No, she was holding it like close to her chest and ended up getting it all over her shirt |
| 3046.60 | >> That sounds familiar |
| 3049.60 | >> That’s so like classic Drew, right |
| 3052.60 | So, we get into truth’s kind of like agelessness, which is some a theme of the podcast for sure |
| 3057.35 | We talk about con totally |
| 3060.35 | >> So, there is mention of her emancipation |
| 3063.35 | It literally says at age 15, thank you |
| 3066.35 | Just backing up my research from last episode |
| 3069.35 | >> And Drew says, quote, “The judge said he couldn’t turn back the clock |
| 3072.95 | He could only turn it forward |
| 3075.95 | ” I remember thinking, “Thank God |
| 3078.95 | I don’t want to go back there |
| 3081.95 | I just knew I am all of my responsibility and I liked that feeling which is pretty cool |
| 3086.30 | And then her longtime friend Justine Badley said of Drew |
| 3089.30 | Drew has always been not older than her years but the right age in Drew years |
| 3093.15 | It’s like dog years |
| 3096.15 | It says she was the same person she is now when she was 13 |
| 3099.15 | The same great values |
| 3102.15 | Lately she’s just let go of the less useful ones |
| 3105.15 | >> That’s really cool |
| 3108.15 | Yeah, it is |
| 3111.15 | And I I also wondered the same thing because uh Justine says that she’s 12 years older than Drew |
| 3115.95 | >> And they we know they’ve known each other since Drew was a teenager |
| 3119.45 | So, I don’t think I realized that she was like basically twice her age maybe when they met |
| 3123.95 | That’s >> really interesting |
| 3126.95 | I would love to know the story there |
| 3129.95 | Later on, if you guys don’t know, she would go on to become a casting director of a lot of Flower Films movies, which is really neat |
| 3134.95 | >> Um, okay, then |
| 3137.95 | I love this part |
| 3140.95 | >> So, we’re talking about Drew’s house |
| 3143.95 | It says it’s her first |
| 3146.95 | She bought her first home, but I’m like, that’s not true because we know you just mentioned the one on Martell from 1995 and the beautiful description |
| 3151.95 | >> Yeah, the one that had all the painted walls |
| 3154.95 | >> Yeah, that’s okay |
| 3157.95 | Okay, so we’re talking about the house on Cherokee Lane |
| 3160.95 | This is the one that sadly would later burn down |
| 3163.95 | We It’s funny, we were just talking about this, too, because Bill Maher like owns that property now |
| 3168.90 | >> So, it says that she got this house after some time hopping around between hotels and short-term rentals |
| 3173.90 | So that’s kind of wild |
| 3176.90 | Like what h why wasn’t she just living in Martell |
| 3179.90 | >> Yeah, good question |
| 3182.90 | >> So here’s this fantastic description of this house |
| 3185.90 | And if you guys, you probably seen a little bit of this house because it was featured in InStyle |
| 3190.70 | It had done a whole feature on it in 1999, which we have an episode about that too, actually |
| 3195.30 | >> Yes, we do |
| 3198.30 | >> So it says it’s a solar heated recycled cedar treehouse of a house in Cold Water Canyon |
| 3202.80 | >> The ceilings are high |
| 3205.80 | The windows are always open |
| 3208.80 | Recycled water circulates outside for the local fauna and the profusion of citrus trees and frondy flora |
| 3213.80 | There’s a tiki bar deck with a thatched roof, a sunken yoga studio, a screening room with comfy sectional sofas |
| 3218.80 | So, at least we know the screening room and the yoga studio and the tiki bar all still exist |
| 3223.40 | Those didn’t burn down |
| 3226.40 | At least there’s that |
| 3229.40 | >> That’s true |
| 3232.40 | >> Thanks, Bill |
| 3235.40 | And this is neat |
| 3238.40 | We’ve got like quotes from other people about her home |
| 3241.40 | It is fun that that this this um author Joanna like went and kind of like you said like talked to people about her |
| 3246.40 | >> So Nancy said about the house |
| 3249.40 | It sounds opulent, but it’s not the le it’s not the least bit fancy |
| 3252.75 | It’s very home sweet home |
| 3255.75 | It’s the kind of place where cobwebs look beautiful |
| 3258.75 | That’s totally how I always imagined it |
| 3261.75 | >> I love it |
| 3264.75 | And then it says Luke’s favorite room is the kitchen |
| 3267.75 | There’s a junky old boom box and daisies |
| 3270.75 | Always lots of daisies |
| 3273.75 | It says Drew is a good cook, which is kind of a funny thing |
| 3276.75 | So, Drew is never considered a good cook, especially then |
| 3279.75 | Anyway, totally |
| 3282.75 | >> He says, “If you’re hungry, she’ll make you something |
| 3285.75 | ” Which to me is a good cook |
| 3288.75 | >> And that’s so funny because when he was recently on the Drew Barrymore show, she’s like, “What is like your favorite memory of our time together |
| 3293.75 | ” And he says he loved that she would make her I think it was breakfast tacos |
| 3297.60 | And I remember when he said that also thinking like, “Oh, I thought she like didn’t really cook back then |
| 3302.60 | ” So that must have really had an impact on Luke |
| 3305.60 | He must have really liked those burritos or tacos |
| 3308.60 | But yeah, it’s kind of funny |
| 3311.60 | So then there’s like this kind of random pivot where Drew says that some of her friends from her teen years are either dead or hooked on drugs |
| 3316.60 | And I was, it’s kind of funny because I remember when we talked to Todd Gold, he was sort of saying, I wonder what happened to these other kids that she was with |
| 3321.60 | There we go |
| 3324.60 | And Drew says, quote, “And they find this glamour in self-sabotage |
| 3327.90 | It confuses me to no end |
| 3330.90 | I don’t see the glory in it |
| 3333.90 | I just see the sadness |
| 3336.90 | ” >> Which is really sweet |
| 3339.90 | Um, so she says that when she was younger, she was always like looking for the fun, which I mean that’s exactly what Little Girl Lost is about |
| 3344.90 | But now she can just make fun in everything that she does |
| 3347.90 | So I love that she says >> I could be standing in a taco line and I’m like and then the author says here she mimics grinding her hips and singonging |
| 3352.90 | I’m getting a taco |
| 3355.90 | I’m getting a taco |
| 3358.90 | Next she mimics meeting someone’s eye being caught out |
| 3361.90 | I guess I’m excited |
| 3364.90 | You know, I used to make fun of adults that I thought were dorks |
| 3368.10 | If I saw a guy singing I’m getting a taco, I’d be like what a dork |
| 3371.40 | Now I’m that guy and I’m loving it |
| 3374.40 | So watch out because whatever you make fun of is gonna come and bite you in the ass |
| 3378.55 | I can totally like >> Oh, >> she dances about food on her show all the time |
| 3382.30 | Like it’s so cute |
| 3385.30 | It’s so cute |
| 3388.30 | >> Shaking her butt maybe a little bit |
| 3391.30 | It’s like making my cheeks hurt |
| 3394.30 | It’s so cute |
| 3397.30 | Okay, so now we’re going to get into some of the recent films um at the time |
| 3401.10 | So the author writes about her um recent film choices that seemed like kind of all over the map, but at this it says, “But at the center of each is the same beating heart, Barrymore, playing a good woman who insists upon seeing the good in others playing that is herself |
| 3406.10 | ” >> That’s sweet |
| 3409.10 | >> It’s sweet because because she talks about like admiring some of these characters when like Yeah |
| 3414.05 | It’s like the kindness of her that works |
| 3417.05 | Um, it says that even though her characters are often disappointed by life, they remain optimistic and look for the good |
| 3422.05 | That’s such a cool like throughine to see |
| 3425.05 | Like the article does like get into which examples they’re talking about, but it it’s really very true |
| 3430.05 | Like >> most of her characters have something that’s I mean it’s a movie, right |
| 3434.00 | So there’s going to be like obstacles or things they have to overcome, but her characters always are like optimistic and persevering |
| 3439.00 | She had had like a kind of a trend of these especially at this time, right |
| 3442.70 | >> So, the author tells Drew that many of these films seem to be about forgiveness and Drew strongly agrees with this |
| 3447.70 | She says, quote, “I don’t know who or what I would be forgiving, and maybe it’s myself |
| 3452.00 | I’m always trying to not be so hard on myself |
| 3455.00 | Take a drink for that, too, guys |
| 3458.00 | ” But I don’t feel any awkwardness or bitterness towards my life |
| 3461.20 | And I really like playing characters who feel that way, who aren’t burdened by what’s existed in their past and know how to make their pain into their strength |
| 3466.20 | Oh my god, that’s like 100% her |
| 3469.20 | >> Making her pain into her strength is 100% what she’s done |
| 3472.20 | >> Um, she it says she understands that life will always include pain and thinks we should get into it and feel it |
| 3477.20 | She said, “But I want us all to be able to get past it |
| 3480.20 | Do you want to lug a 40 lb suitcase of steaming stinking around all day or do you want to kick the bag and get rid of it |
| 3485.20 | >> Kick the bag, man |
| 3488.20 | We know that comes from her dad |
| 3491.20 | I don’t think I knew that like back in the day, but she’s talked about it since |
| 3495.15 | It’s so funny |
| 3498.15 | And then the um author says she throws a handful of sushi ginger into her mouth energetically as she chews |
| 3503.15 | I don’t want to be a stinky poo poo girl |
| 3506.15 | I want to be a happy flower child |
| 3509.15 | I believe you can be the person you dream of being |
| 3512.15 | >> That was definitely like an off quoted on like old fan sites that was like always under quotes |
| 3517.00 | >> I don’t want to be a stinky poo poo girl |
| 3520.00 | Um then we’re getting to the end of the article, guys |
| 3523.00 | So, they kind of wrap up by talking about dreams |
| 3526.00 | So, Drew had recently had a dream that she was the fifth Spice Girl |
| 3529.35 | And in case that’s confusing, this was after Ginger Spice had left the group |
| 3533.15 | So, there were only four at the time |
| 3536.15 | And in the dream, she was panicking because she didn’t know any of the songs or dances, which is like just cracks me up |
| 3541.15 | I could totally see that |
| 3544.15 | She admits that she’s an insomniac, but she loves dreaming |
| 3547.15 | And she does have very good reoccurring dreams about dolphins, which I thought was fun |
| 3551.45 | And then I was thinking there’s like pictures of her when they were doing 51st Dates where she’s at like a swimming with the dolphins thing, right |
| 3556.45 | I’ll have to pull that |
| 3559.45 | >> I that sounds familiar |
| 3562.45 | I couldn’t remember the timeline, but I totally can picture the the pictures of it |
| 3566.55 | >> It’s like a dream come true for her |
| 3569.55 | That’s so cool |
| 3572.55 | And she says in her very favorite dream, she jumps off tall buildings and lands softly |
| 3576.85 | She says, “Oh, I love those |
| 3579.85 | ” She said, “I jumped off the Empire State Building in a dream |
| 3582.95 | ” And says, “And landed softly |
| 3585.95 | Barrymore smiles |
| 3588.95 | It was beautifific |
| 3591.95 | I love that |
| 3594.95 | But yeah, that’s crazy to me because that’s the kind of dream that would like I would hate hate it falling off a building |
| 3599.95 | No, thank you |
| 3602.95 | But like >> I think most people associate those with like really scary, you know, like >> but that’s so true to like she has that adventurous spirit, right |
| 3607.95 | >> Yeah, that’s true |
| 3610.95 | >> That’s true Drew |
| 3613.95 | >> True Drew |
| 3616.95 | [Music] So, that’s the article, but we’re not done |
| 3619.95 | We are not done |
| 3622.95 | There’s a little bit more |
| 3625.95 | So, in the in January of 1999, the letters to the editor included feedback about this issue |
| 3630.50 | So, we’re going to get into this a little bit |
| 3633.50 | >> So sweet |
| 3636.50 | >> Because these are our kind comments this week, guys |
| 3639.50 | This is really fun |
| 3642.50 | Um, and the first one, >> this is really special |
| 3645.50 | The first one printed in this magazine is from the original Droovy Queen, our friend Missy, who started the fan sites where Ann and I met and the Grapevine message board |
| 3650.50 | So, and this is such a like Missy >> thing to write |
| 3653.50 | Okay, >> so Missy writes, “Drew Barrymore is the purest, yummiest, most lung soothing breath of fresh air in Hollywood, and your recent cover story proves it |
| 3658.50 | Thank you for publishing such an eloquent and honest interview |
| 3661.60 | It moved me to tears right there in the store |
| 3664.60 | >> Oh, I love it so much |
| 3667.60 | >> So, if you guys know Missy, that is so Missy |
| 3670.60 | >> Yeah, like the the yummiest, most lung soothing breath of fresh air in Hollywood |
| 3674.75 | It’s so perfect |
| 3677.75 | Um, and we should read more, right |
| 3680.75 | Like see how other people reacted |
| 3683.75 | Let’s read them all |
| 3686.75 | >> Okay, so it says, “Thanks to writer Joanna Schneller for highlighting Drew Barrymore as the beautifific person she is that she is |
| 3691.75 | Most interviews I have read focus on the Barrymore quote unquote curse and Drew’s troubled past |
| 3696.50 | It is only when she speaks that you realize she is living proof that everything happens for a reason |
| 3701.50 | Your interview oozes positive energy and illustrates the very essence of who Drew Barrymore is |
| 3706.20 | And this was written in by Annie Kenny from Long Beach, California |
| 3709.50 | I love that these are all positive, too |
| 3712.50 | >> Um, okay |
| 3715.50 | So Mike Powell who sent an email from p_b1hotmail |
| 3718.50 | I just love that there’s like email addresses |
| 3721.50 | This is like the beginning of that |
| 3724.50 | So >> and this is Chris Mystery |
| 3727.50 | Which I remember that being like her sort of identity online |
| 3730.50 | So Mike says, “From ET to Poison Ivy to The Wedding Singer, Drew Barrymore has always impressed me |
| 3735.40 | She’s an actress of unmistakable talent and unmatched beauty |
| 3738.40 | I’m glad she’s hitting new heights of popularity |
| 3741.40 | She sure was at this time |
| 3744.40 | This was like >> Renaissance |
| 3747.40 | He’s so right |
| 3750.40 | >> That’s great |
| 3753.40 | Okay, we’ve got two more, guys |
| 3756.40 | So, Rosa Linda Linder |
| 3759.40 | Rosalinda Linder from Viejo, California |
| 3762.40 | She said, “Miss Barrymore has flown from her crippling cocoon to share her cheerful and charming inner beauty in a time when so many are jaded or spiritless |
| 3767.40 | Kudos to us for documenting The Beautiful Butterfly |
| 3770.40 | >> Wow, >> these are really nice |
| 3773.40 | >> Yeah, they are |
| 3776.40 | Like I I read them beforehand, but I kind of forgot how good they are |
| 3779.85 | >> I hadn’t reread them in a while |
| 3782.85 | And then our final one is from Stephanie Herell from Seami Valley, California |
| 3786.70 | Stephanie said, “Drew has a light inside her |
| 3789.70 | ” Take a drink |
| 3792.70 | Drew has a light inside her that shines even in print |
| 3795.70 | Her optimism and genuine love for the simple pleasures in life make me want to throw my arms around her and give her a big squeeze |
| 3800.70 | >> A I’m glad it doesn’t say her love for the simple pleasures in life made me want to throw up >> again |
| 3805.70 | Like Joanna the writer |
| 3808.70 | Why is this working |
| 3811.70 | Why am I agreeing with her |
| 3814.70 | This is supposed to be annoying |
| 3817.70 | And yeah, like we we love that Missy popped up in this |
| 3820.70 | Like I remember like I I remember getting this later, getting the clipping later and being so like happy to have like something that Missy wrote in about Drew in my Drew collection |
| 3825.70 | >> You see my little handwritten handdrawn rectangle I put around her name with with a gel pen |
| 3830.40 | Remember those gel pens |
| 3833.40 | The sparkly gel pens |
| 3836.40 | >> It’s sparkly |
| 3839.40 | >> Why did I do that |
| 3842.40 | because we wanted to highlight it in a, >> you know, just like how with the article, we we didn’t want that pesky handwriting to be distracting us |
| 3847.40 | We wanted to cut out Drew hanging from those bars |
| 3850.40 | Yeah, exactly |
| 3853.40 | So, before we wrap things up, we just want to give a little heads up |
| 3856.80 | We have told you guys that we’re going to appear on a show called Collector’s Call and it is about us and our Drew Barrymore collection, the Drew |
| 3861.80 | So, that is slated to air on ME TV on October 12th, right |
| 3864.80 | Is that the right date |
| 3867.80 | Yeah, it’s a Sunday |
| 3870.80 | >> So, um before we come on here again, it’ll have aired |
| 3873.80 | So, they told us not to officially announce it yet |
| 3876.80 | Like, we’re not putting it on social media yet, but if you’re here, you and you stayed to the end, you get to know |
| 3881.80 | And please watch out for that and we’ll keep you posted |
| 3884.80 | >> Yeah, we will because and we’ll be talking about it |
| 3887.80 | Yeah, we’re gonna talk about on our next episode because it was like quite an experience that it’s just >> We’ll get into it, guys |
| 3892.80 | We’ll get into it |
| 3895.80 | >> We’ll get into it and we’re looking forward to more people like knowing about our little our little Drewberrymore museum, the Drew |
| 3900.80 | >> There could be people who are coming and listening to this episode because they watched the episode of Collector’s Call |
| 3905.80 | >> That’s very true |
| 3908.80 | If you’re here because of that, welcome |
| 3911.80 | And thank you for being here |
| 3914.80 | And if you liked this episode, you could rate, review, subscribe, all that stuff |
| 3918.80 | Wherever you’re listening to us, give us some feedback |
| 3921.80 | You can also find us on Instagram at How Do You Drew Pod |
| 3924.80 | And also at Drewm um on How Do You Drew Pod Instagram today |
| 3927.80 | I put up some movies that I think you should watch during October |
| 3931.05 | Some Drew movies |
| 3934.05 | It was pretty fun to curate that |
| 3937.05 | Um you can also now leave comments on episodes on Spotify |
| 3940.05 | So, if you just found us and you thought we were fun and cool and you want to leave positive letters to the editor like everyone did about Drew’s article, go do that |
| 3945.05 | Um, and please visit our website at howdydrew |
| 3948.05 | com to see the episode gallery for this episode and every episode |
| 3951.30 | And peruse the DSM while you’re at it |
| 3954.30 | Make sure you check out our Drew Barrymore Museum, especially if you’re here from Collector’s Call |
| 3959.20 | Hopefully, you’ve already kind of checked it out |
| 3962.20 | Well, you know what’s wild is like whatever you’re seeing on collector’s call is like a tiny little drop in the bucket of our collection |
| 3967.20 | And we’ll tell you why, but there’s so much more, guys |
| 3970.20 | There’s so much more than what they’re going to show |
| 3973.20 | >> It’s kind of >> wild |
| 3976.20 | >> How could anyone ever understand the breadth of it |
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Ashley (22s):
All right. Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew.
Anne (25s):
This is A Drew Barrymore Podcast, brought to you by thedrewseum.com
Ashley (28s):
And sponsored by our friends at Positive Medium.
Anne (31s):
I’m Anne.
Ashley (32s):
And I’m Ashley.
Anne (34s):
And hello, welcome to episode 65,
Ashley (38s):
Our Christmas episode, if you will.
Anne (40s):
Yes. Merry Christmas
Ashley (41s):
Y’all. And final episode of 2023. Yes.
Anne (47s):
That’s pretty exciting. Also weird that the year’s over
Ashley (51s):
Crazy. Oh my God, I can’t believe it. Yeah. So we are gonna take a break. It could be one week, it could be two. We’ll let you know. Just stay tuned. Yeah, stay
Anne (58s):
Tuned. Stay tuned. Watch our social needs. You know where to find the info. Social
Ashley (1m 2s):
Needs. Yeah, all your social mead needs. How, Do, You, Drew Pod on Instagram. We’ll tell you there.
Anne (1m 7s):
Yes. Don’t forget to check that out. Anyway, all the time, every day of your life.
Ashley (1m 11s):
You could also go check out our Patreon. We have a new member there. We wanna give a shout out to Angela. Thank you so much.
Anne (1m 18s):
Thank you, Angela. We are so excited. Our little community over on Patreon’s growing a little bit at a time. So Yes, go check us out there.
Ashley (1m 28s):
I had some ideas for what we were gonna offer and we never talked about it. We’ll get there. I promise guys. I promise. Yes.
Anne (1m 35s):
Yes. I feel like one thing we talked about that we can maybe tease here a little bit is like possibly movie watch throughs. Yes. It would be really funny to have done it for this one, but we’ll get into why this movie’s so entertaining and let’s talk about something really exciting in our follow-up section here. Well, is this a follow-up? Is this something just more than that than we
Ashley (1m 55s):
May make a new segment. We haven’t come up with a good name yet. Yes. And we’re hoping this happens frequently, but we have another comment from Drew on our Instagram at Drew Zm.
Anne (2m 5s):
So amazing. So amazing.
Ashley (2m 9s):
So I posted four of our really cool four by six photographs that we have in our collection of Drew at the Batman forever premiere in 1995. Of course she has that classic look with the two slips and then little Daisy in her hair and she commented last night to tell us a little bit more about it.
Anne (2m 27s):
So crazy. So Drew Barrymore left this comment at, I bought those slips at Frederick’s of Hollywood and put one on top of the other and threw on a pair of platforms for my closet and went to the premier. I wasn’t at that place where anyone dressed me, so I dressed myself for about $50 and I love the carefree style to this day.
Ashley (2m 46s):
Yes. So do we.
Anne (2m 48s):
So do we.
Ashley (2m 50s):
I mean, this is not an important, I’m not being like drill, you’re wrong. This isn’t one of those that I’m doing. But she told Courtney Love on film in 1995 that she got the, the Slips at Playmates, which is like, kind of like a stripper store in Hollywood.
Anne (3m 4s):
Okay.
Ashley (3m 5s):
Just a quick way of putting it. So whether it was Frederick’s or Playmates is not like that different. And also it was almost 30 years ago. So Yes. Whether she had it wrong then or now, it doesn’t really matter. Yeah. The, the general vibe is correct.
Anne (3m 17s):
Absolutely. And we are so honored that
Ashley (3m 19s):
Oh my God,
Anne (3m 20s):
That she’s like engaging with our content. Yeah. Like, I mean we’re just so thrilled.
Ashley (3m 24s):
So the dream we like manifested the shit out of that happening.
Anne (3m 28s):
Yes, absolutely. And Drew, if you’re somehow listening, hi, we love you. Hi. Hi. Could you imagine? Hi, I love
Ashley (3m 35s):
Your movie. Hi.
Anne (3m 37s):
Okay, so what kind of follow ups do we have?
Ashley (3m 40s):
So I haven’t watched this yet, but I saw a note about it and I just wanna mention it. Apparently when Gary Oldman was on the Drew Barrymore show this week, she talked about her 2001 house fire.
Anne (3m 51s):
Okay.
Ashley (3m 52s):
And this one just killed me. She said that one of the items that she lost in that fire was her childhood passport, which had all the stamps of everywhere she’d been. And since we were just talking last week about her 1982 when she traveled all over for et, it made me think of that.
Anne (4m 7s):
And I would die to see her passport.
Ashley (4m 10s):
Oh, I know.
Anne (4m 11s):
Oh my. Brutal. My God.
Ashley (4m 13s):
I know. It made me really sad.
Anne (4m 14s):
It’s like Drew, do you have any pictures of it? She probably doesn’t because you wouldn’t think you were gonna lose that. That was like, that’s part of her archive. Yeah. Well you know what this is, we have to make note of like that there was part of the feature collection that’s missing because of a fire. Oh.
Ashley (4m 28s):
Imagine having that item in the, like the Drew Museum one day, but it’s gone forever.
Anne (4m 33s):
Oof. Oh, that’s heartbreaking.
Ashley (4m 35s):
Okay. That, that was upsetting. Sorry.
Anne (4m 37s):
Alright, well I, I just, you know, I’m giving up now, but let’s get to happier things. Okay. What did Drew proclaim her love for this past week? I love, love. We
Ashley (4m 47s):
Got some good ones this week. She was on a roll.
Anne (4m 49s):
Let’s hear it.
Ashley (4m 50s):
All right. Drew loves slumber parties.
Anne (4m 53s):
Ooh. Like one we just had
Ashley (4m 55s):
And yeah. And also someone said that she was like a, like they reminded her of a sleepover because of the last thing in dancing. We’ve mentioned that last week.
Anne (5m 4s):
Yeah, absolutely. Okay. What else? What else does she love?
Ashley (5m 8s):
Drew loves QVC. She also loves five below the store. And she probably said that four times on the show last week. ’cause they kept giving money to Drew gooders. I love Five Below.
Anne (5m 20s):
What is five Below?
Ashley (5m 21s):
It’s like a dollar store, but kind of more aimed towards teenagers maybe.
Anne (5m 26s):
Oh, that’s cool. All right. What else?
Ashley (5m 29s):
He also loves grilled fruit.
Anne (5m 31s):
Ooh, I like a grilled pineapple.
Ashley (5m 33s):
Oh, okay.
Anne (5m 34s):
And peach.
Ashley (5m 35s):
Yeah. They were talking about peaches. Blackberries
Anne (5m 38s):
Mm.
Ashley (5m 39s):
A good nut.
Anne (5m 41s):
You’re getting on board with that. I’ve always been a good nut person. Drew, you’re a nut.
Ashley (5m 47s):
She’s, she really is. Drew loves silicone.
Anne (5m 50s):
Hmm. Okay. Me too actually.
Ashley (5m 51s):
Popcorn? Yes.
Anne (5m 53s):
Hmm. I was just eating some last night and going, why don’t I eat this every day?
Ashley (5m 57s):
Oh, all the time. I know. Okay. Okay. Drew loves highlighting cities. She loves Mr. T.
Anne (6m 3s):
Aw,
Ashley (6m 4s):
When she said that, she’s like, and I mean it like I actually love Mr. T. Like I knew him.
Anne (6m 8s):
Did they show a picture?
Ashley (6m 10s):
Yes they did.
Anne (6m 11s):
Okay, good, good, good. Okay. What else?
Ashley (6m 13s):
She loves a 50 50, which is an ice cream treat. Like half, I think it’s like half slushy, half ice cream or
Anne (6m 19s):
Something. Does she like ice cream now?
Ashley (6m 21s):
Oh, I guess so.
Anne (6m 23s):
Okay. What else?
Ashley (6m 24s):
She also loves a viewing party. Okay. And one more Berry. Raspberries. Yes.
Anne (6m 30s):
Hmm.
Ashley (6m 31s):
I know.
Anne (6m 32s):
Now I want some grilled fruit and then a side of blackberries and raspberries and popcorn.
Ashley (6m 37s):
Yeah, popcorn. Totally
Anne (6m 38s):
Fake at a slum party while watching a movie.
Ashley (6m 41s):
Perfect. How about while watching this wonderful film, Babes in Toyland, we’re gonna get into,
Anne (6m 46s):
I mean here we are. Okay, so let’s get into our, you’ve got male segment,
3 (6m 53s):
You’ve got mail.
Ashley (6m 55s):
So as we mentioned last episode, we’re trying to catch up on some of the international reviews that people have left for us on Apple that you can’t necessarily see in the US unless you kind of go sneakily about it. So this one comes from our amazing fronts. Hi. Who is a long time Drewbie friend. If you heard her on our hairstyles episode, right? Number 57 7. Yep. Yeah. You know that Tess is awesome and here’s just more proof of that.
Anne (7m 23s):
Yeah. So the title is Essential for Drew Barrymore fans. First of all, great title. Love
Ashley (7m 28s):
It. That’s exactly what we aim to be.
Anne (7m 30s):
Yes. And Tess said, if you love the shiny happy daisy, that is Drew Barrymore. This podcast is for you. Drew archivists, Ash and Ann from the Drew have an encyclopedic knowledge about all things Drew. Their true friendship shines through every episode and they exude the kindness, friendliness, and all around happiness that Drew puts out into the world.
Ashley (7m 49s):
Perfection. Thank you Tess.
Anne (7m 51s):
Yes, thank you. Thank you. I feel like we need to put testimonials on our website now and that’s gonna be one of them. We,
Ashley (7m 56s):
We already have that Anne,
Anne (7m 57s):
Do we? Yeah. Cool. Cool. I’m so glad that we have a testimonial section on the website to add this to and I
Ashley (8m 4s):
Think I already did.
Anne (8m 5s):
Thank you so much Tess. That is so kind. And we love you.
Ashley (8m 9s):
We do.
Anne (8m 10s):
Okay. What do we have for this weekend for history?
Ashley (8m 13s):
How about this one? December 22nd, 2007, Nancy Javon and Jimmy Fallon got married. Oh,
Anne (8m 21s):
Oh
Ashley (8m 21s):
Yeah. So apparently they got married on Richard Branson’s Island. It’s called Necker Island in the British Virgin Island.
Anne (8m 30s):
Okay. I
Ashley (8m 30s):
Know, here’s a little story about it from Nancy. She said we got this place for three days. So Jimmy goes, what if we got married in three weeks instead of next summer? And I’m like, this is the best idea of all human time. It’s a very Drew like thing to say. Yeah. So we had 12 people at our wedding. I just got dressed, done as fast as I could, we didn’t care. Ah. So it was very small as they said. There was a photo that they gave to People magazine with the whole crew that was there. So obviously Drew was in attendance. Justin Long was her date. They were dating at the time. And Nancy’s former assistant and longtime flower film staffer. Gwen Stroman was also there. Yeah. But no, Chris Miller, which I find so surprising.
Ashley (9m 12s):
Oh, maybe he couldn’t go. It is a really cool photo. Drew’s wearing like some interesting long silvery dress I’ve never seen before. Would love to see more photos, but we just have the one. Also though this crew, I think a couple days before the wedding they went to another island in the Virgin Islands called Guan. Okay. And they left like a really cool note Nancy and Jimmy did, and then a photo of the four of them. So Jimmy, Nancy, Drew and Justin. Oh. And I think like somebody vacationed there and then took pictures of these and posted them on Flicker. I think that’s how we saw them. That
Anne (9m 47s):
Makes sense.
Ashley (9m 48s):
They were like in the hotel or something. How
Anne (9m 51s):
Cute. Is there anything noteworthy we wanna mention from the note
Ashley (9m 54s):
Basically? Yeah, it’s kind of interesting. So I think Nancy wrote this and she said We highly recommend the pre-breakfast Wild Bore
Anne (10m 2s):
Wild as well
Ashley (10m 4s):
As shark jumping,
Anne (10m 5s):
Which we’re sure will be taken off the event list by the next year. Godspeed to Jason and April’s quick recovery. I know, I’m like, is this a joke?
Ashley (10m 13s):
And then something about a bat cave. I dunno.
Anne (10m 16s):
Oh, this sounds awesome. I hope Drew was there for all that.
Ashley (10m 19s):
I I think she probably was based on the photo. I love the photo of the four of them. I think it’s so cute.
Anne (10m 23s):
So sweet. That’s the one I always think of. I kind of forget about the like entire wedding. Yeah, the wedding one. Yeah. Yeah. It’s so cute. I love that Drew and Justin both have flowers in their hair. Aw, it’s so, oh, so does, so does Nancy.
Ashley (10m 35s):
Nancy and Jimmy looks, looks like he has one in his pocket.
Anne (10m 38s):
Oh yes he does.
Ashley (10m 40s):
So we’ll share these. They’re really fun if you’ve never seen them. This is cute.
Anne (10m 43s):
And I love this pole. Yeah. Thought it was a
Ashley (10m 45s):
Unique
Anne (10m 46s):
One. Yeah. Really cute. Okay, so it looks like there’s nothing new with Drew. Yeah.
Ashley (10m 52s):
Wait, wait. She went to the Madonna concert, she posted about that. Oh yes
Anne (10m 56s):
She did.
Ashley (10m 57s):
Okay. And that’s that, that’s
Anne (10m 59s):
That.
Ashley (10m 59s):
She’s always loved Madonna though. I always feel like she’s looked to her as like someone who’s ever changing and that was like an inspirational to Drew.
Anne (11m 7s):
Yeah, absolutely. It would be kind of fun to see if like we could start tracking like when she’s mentioned Madonna. Oh
Ashley (11m 12s):
Yeah. Remember that bizarre 1996 article? She mentions her like three times. If you guys wanna see that, that’s way back in our episode. Like 11 or something.
Anne (11m 21s):
Good memory. Yeah. How do Drewbie Drewbie
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Anne (12m 59s):
Hey, so are you ready to just dive into this gem of a film 1980 six’s TV movie Babes in Toyland?
Ashley (13m 7s):
Let’s go to Drew and her co-star. Keanu Reeves. Introduce it for us obscure masterpiece. Obs
4 (13m 13s):
Babes in Toyland.
0 (13m 15s):
Sometimes obscurity is good.
Ashley (13m 17s):
Well said guy. As well said. So, okay. I just wanna say, I know there are people who have like a weird love nostalgia for this movie. I did not watch this growing up, so I cannot relate. I think maybe if you have those kind of rose colored glasses on it, maybe you view it differently. I think this is a horrible movie, but horrible in a, in a mildly entertaining way. Like it’s kind of fun to hate watch.
Anne (13m 40s):
Yeah. Oh for sure. Like when we start, when we turned it on, we were talking about, Jared and I were talking about doing like mystery science, theater treatment. Oh
Ashley (13m 48s):
Totally.
Anne (13m 48s):
Yeah. It’s totally perfect for
Ashley (13m 50s):
That. I am gonna say most of my notes are not the nicest or the most positive and usually I’m a positive person. But as I was watching it I was just like, oh my God.
Anne (13m 59s):
Yeah. We’re gonna be laughing through this whole episode though. So there’s joy that comes out of it.
Ashley (14m 3s):
There is another thing I wanna note though. If you do want to have some like fun Drew Christmas maybe like something that’s actually enjoyable and delightful and funny and cute and sweet, go watch all of the other reindeer. It’s much better. And then you can listen to our episode from last Christmas about that one
Anne (14m 23s):
Good call. So that’s a good way to steer people in the direction of more cute Drew Drew’s. Drew’s cute in this In a really interesting way. Yeah, in a different way. Yeah. Let’s, let’s, before we jump into Drew’s, you know cuteness, let’s read the IMDB summary for this film.
Ashley (14m 40s):
Okay. So a young girl wakes up in the realm of Toyland, like wakes up kind of random. Okay. Yeah, sorry. Where she teams up with her family and friends to overthrow the evil villain. Barnaby.
Anne (14m 52s):
I don’t think it says enough about the surrealism or the, or the fact that it’s a Wizard of Oz ripoff. Let’s move on. Before we get to the pre-production, I think we, it’s important to notice that the original, it’s based on an operetta composed by Victor Herbert in 1903. And it’s been filmed several times over different decades. I’ve only seen this one.
Ashley (15m 13s):
I think I watched the one with like the Disney one as a kid.
Anne (15m 16s):
There’s a like a Laurel and Hardy one I think.
Ashley (15m 19s):
Yeah, there’s a Disney one with Annette Funicello. I think I watched that once as a kid and I feel like I liked it, but I don’t have really any other memory about it. I
Anne (15m 26s):
Wonder if before Drew did this, if she’d watched any.
Ashley (15m 29s):
Yeah, probably. So it was directed by Clive Donner and written by Paul Del and Glen McDonna and maybe one of those guys is from Cincinnati because boy is there a lot of love for that city in this movie. Yes. A weird amount. We’ll get into that.
Anne (15m 45s):
There sure is. The movie Stars Keanu Reeves in an early role here. Richard Mulligan. Is he the bad guy?
Ashley (15m 53s):
Yeah. And he was on that show Empty Nest. I don’t know if you remember that as a kid, but my babysitter used to watch it.
Anne (15m 59s):
I know the name. So he plays the Mr. Barnaby, Mr. Just Barbie Bar.
Ashley (16m 4s):
Barnaby Barnaby Barnacle. Oh
Anne (16m 6s):
That’s right. God. And then we have Eileen Brennan who was from Clue, which was your favorite eighties movie mentioned in the end of our previous
Ashley (16m 14s):
Episode. Yeah. And this probably would’ve been like the year after Clue was filmed Probably.
Anne (16m 18s):
Yes. And then Googie Gress who was apparently in Wayne’s World two and he’s just not that into you. Yeah. Did they have scenes together in either, either film?
Ashley (16m 27s):
I had no idea that he was in those movies until I was doing research.
Anne (16m 32s):
Okay. So funny,
Ashley (16m 33s):
He’s sort of like Keanu’s sidekick in this movie I guess. And he is the butt of, feels like a lot of eighties fat jokes. Oh
Anne (16m 41s):
Absolutely. He’s supposed, I think he’s supposed to be like a gingerbread man or something. It’s,
Ashley (16m 45s):
No, he is Georgie Porgie. Oh.
Anne (16m 48s):
Who is Georgie Porgie
Ashley (16m 49s):
Pudding in Pie Kiss the Girls and made them cry. Lovely.
Anne (16m 56s):
Georgie Porgie. And then we have Pat Marita is also in this as the Toy Master and he was in Karate Kid two years prior to this film. So
Ashley (17m 7s):
What a downgrade. Also Jill Solan plays Drew’s sister and I heard her recently on a podcast called $2 Late Fee. She was so delightful. It was definitely jarring to hear her voice hear now because she’s like probably in her sixties.
Anne (17m 23s):
Oh weird. And
Ashley (17m 23s):
I was like, just like older lady. This is so
Anne (17m 26s):
Weird. Yeah.
Ashley (17m 27s):
I listened to it, just hoping to glean some cool details for this that she didn’t really give much. But she did say that they first went to England to do costume fittings before they went on to Germany to film. Oh,
Anne (17m 39s):
Interesting.
Ashley (17m 39s):
Yeah. And we knew this was filmed in Germany. So Drew talks about this actually in both her books, which is pretty surprising because it is that obscure masterpiece as
Anne (17m 48s):
She said. Absolutely.
Ashley (17m 51s):
So, yeah. And little Girl lost Drew talks about how she went to Germany and Munich, Germany to film this. And it was like a good change of scenery for her and Jade because were clashing a lot. And then of course, for some reason Drew just had a ton of independence when she was
Anne (18m 6s):
Here. Of course.
Ashley (18m 8s):
And one thing she mentioned was that she was really like accepted by the crew, the cast, and felt like she wasn’t an outsider the way she’d been feeling at school when she filmed this.
Anne (18m 19s):
Yep.
Ashley (18m 19s):
Which makes me sad.
Anne (18m 20s):
I gotta make one note, is that it actually says I demanded more independence from my mother. So I think we were talking about like her demands in a previous episode. Yeah. We
Ashley (18m 30s):
Were talking about how Amy Fisher, she might have pulled from her actual real life. Would you?
Anne (18m 34s):
Yep.
Ashley (18m 35s):
Okay. So yeah, we’ve mentioned this before and for some reason we get a lot of hits to the Drewseum dot com by people searching Drew, Barrymore, rod Stewart.
Anne (18m 43s):
Oh yeah.
Ashley (18m 44s):
And so this is the story. So Rod Stewart’s crew was in town for a concert and Drew got invited to like go hang out at, on the tour bus and backstage. And then she like partied with the whole band like literally partied. So Drew’s 11 just to put things in perspective.
Anne (19m 1s):
Yep. Oh yeah. And she says, we got crazy drunk, a whole lot of us. And someone took a video of everyone stumbling around the room, falling off the beds, drowning tiny bottles of liquor from the mini bar. I need that video.
Ashley (19m 12s):
Yeah, I,
Anne (19m 12s):
I know she’s 11 and we’d be disturbed by it. But,
Ashley (19m 15s):
But can you imagine for the archive? Yeah. And we will talk a little bit more. I’ll skip over to Wildflower. She also talks about this incident in a chapter called Germany. And she talks about how, so while they were having this like kind of partying, they were in this hotel and they went around and stole like people’s dry cleaning or hanging laundry bags. Oh. And they started throwing all these clothes off of balconies at the hotel.
Anne (19m 41s):
Oh my God.
Ashley (19m 42s):
And Drew started feeling really guilty about it and like stood back and kind of watched and she was like, oh my God, what have I done here? And she says that this haunts her to this day. And she thinks that she has a karma for it because she loses clothes all the time.
5 (19m 57s):
I’m telling you that I cannot keep clothes and I am convinced it is my karma from that night in Munich. And you know what I say to myself, okay, you probably deserve it. I really am so sorry and remorseful and I am positive that what I’m wearing right now will probably be gone by the time anyone ever hears this.
Anne (20m 28s):
Whoa.
Ashley (20m 30s):
Yes. So that happened. And then also Rod Stewart then invited Drew to move on with them to Vienna. And it was over a weekend and she was like, they’re like the circus. I’m gonna run away with them. And then Jade changed her mind and said she couldn’t go. And it said it caused Drew to erupt in a volcanic temper tantrum that lasted for several days.
Anne (20m 50s):
Oh my God. Is that, is that in Wildflower or in
Ashley (20m 53s):
No, that one’s in Little Girl Loss. Because she said, oh God. And she said it was like, that was the fun and she saw it rolling away, leaving her behind in a cloud of dust.
Anne (21m 2s):
Oh my God.
Ashley (21m 3s):
But yeah, so one of the more interesting things about this movie, more interesting than the movie itself, is just knowing like what was going on with life with her personally. That she’s like hanging out, having like smoking pot, drinking and partying with people. Apparently. And I had totally blocked this out. She had a boyfriend who was 15 who was working on the movie.
Anne (21m 24s):
Movie. Yeah.
Ashley (21m 25s):
What? She’s 11. She’s 11. I can’t
Anne (21m 28s):
11.
Ashley (21m 29s):
Oh my God. And it said that they were seriously making out and Ward was getting around set. And so Jade had to have a sex talk with her. I’m so upset by this
Anne (21m 39s):
11.
Ashley (21m 40s):
Oh my God.
Anne (21m 41s):
Thankfully the kid wasn’t older.
Ashley (21m 44s):
I, I know. It’s like, oh he was only 15 I guess. No. And then I’m like, who is this guy? There’s so many extras and like he could just be a weird guy in a teddy bear suit for all we know.
Anne (21m 54s):
Oh my God. There’s so many people in Suits. We’ll get, we’ll get into that. Oh. But it, I think it’s funny that in the movie the people in the suits are sometimes featured on the screen alone. It’s like they just show the teddy bear like moving its head.
Ashley (22m 8s):
So
Anne (22m 9s):
Moving on kind of to a little bit more about the production. I was wondering about this. So Drew’s singing voice was supposedly dubbed by Linda Harmon. Is that somebody notable or that’s just,
Ashley (22m 18s):
I think she just does a lot of this kind of stuff. Okay. You can tell later on in the movie we’ll point it out again, but like clearly she’s a wo like an adult. Yes. Not a child.
Anne (22m 30s):
Totally. And this is such a cool thing about this film that’s so strange despite how conveniently obscure this film is. We have lots and lots of behind the scenes photos from it, which is really fun to see because it’s such a time in Drew’s life. Like she was about to like not be in the public eye as much.
Ashley (22m 48s):
Yeah. It’s, wow, good point. It’s,
Anne (22m 50s):
And she’s still, even though she’s a kid, she’s 11 years old, she claims she’s not a kid throughout this whole film.
Ashley (22m 56s):
She claims she’s what a child. Yeah.
Anne (22m 57s):
Which it feels actually very like true to her life to be like trying to escape that childhood thing.
Ashley (23m 3s):
Yeah. It crazy. Especially when you know what she was doing behind the scenes.
Anne (23m 7s):
Absolutely.
Ashley (23m 8s):
But yeah, we’re lucky. Yeah, we’ll share some of these photos there. There’s a lot of really cool ones. It’s strange. Like way more than some of the more big time movies.
Anne (23m 17s):
Yeah. Who knows why? I mean it must just be because like nobody cared about keeping it private. I don’t know. It’s like, I don’t know. It’s so strange. But it’s so cool. ’cause like I said, it’s a unique thing and it’s not something I really think about digging into and being appreciative of. Yeah. I also just had to point out that I have a really cool pair of lobby cards, but only I think two or three of them feature Drew and the rest are like weird. Like the either the creatures or some other stuff. So, so
Ashley (23m 47s):
Strange
Anne (23m 48s):
That with the release
Ashley (23m 49s):
She’s like in every scene.
Anne (23m 51s):
I know. So it’s like why are more than half of the lobby cards in that set not featuring Drew? It’s just really funny.
6 (24m 1s):
I come from
7 (24m 2s):
C-I-N-C-I and NATI. Cincinnati
8 (24m 6s):
The best county.
Anne (24m 7s):
Okay. So let’s get into the movie.
Ashley (24m 9s):
Okay. We’re gonna go through our notes. Like I said, just a little disclaimer. Mine aren’t all very nice. We’re gonna have fun with it.
Anne (24m 16s):
And then the other disclaimers, we just point out whatever we wanna talk about. We’re not gonna go through the whole plot line by line. We’re just talking about scenes we even thought were funny or interesting or other.
Ashley (24m 27s):
Or other. Yeah. My my first note was that, so Drew, it starts off in Drew’s reading a cookbook and it’s that Plaid Better Homes and Gardens Cookbook Classic. And I know my mom had that. Like I recognized it immediately. Yep. And then I was laughing like, I wonder if Drew has this in her cookbook collection now
Anne (24m 44s):
She has to. It’s so classic. I think my mom has two ’cause we have, oh my God. Amazing. We have one that I grew up with and then like one came from my grandmother. Cool. Because that, it’s like every year they would re-release it. It’s like, oh
Ashley (24m 53s):
Really? I didn’t know
Anne (24m 54s):
That. I think so. It’s like one of those cookbooks that like has like many versions and it’s like I, I’m sure it’s still exists. It’s got, it’s
Ashley (25m 0s):
Amazing.
Anne (25m 1s):
I thought it was funny that it looked like she was just like browsing the cookbook, which I guess is, I guess it’s what you do. I mean that’s
Ashley (25m 6s):
Literally what she does now. That’s like her favorite thing to do.
Anne (25m 10s):
So cool. So cool.
Ashley (25m 12s):
What do you think about her costume choice? So she wears the same thing, the entire movie except I guess in one point she has a jacket over it, but it’s very like plain and not so cute. So she’s just got a red T-shirt on and this weird like denim sort of jumper over it. A dress. Yeah. Yeah. So my first thought was like, is this supposed to be evocative of Dorothy because there are so many Wizard of Oz ripoffs shamelessly pulling plot points. Yes. And I’m like, is this like intentional? ’cause it’s sort of got that like apron dress look.
Anne (25m 49s):
Okay. I have a couple thoughts. I think yes, it’s supposed to be evocative of Dorothy because that dress that Dorothy wears kind of has like an apron top to it. Even though it’s like gingham, like blue gingham. Jared said Drew looked like Mario, like Super Mario
Ashley (26m 4s):
Amazing.
Anne (26m 5s):
And also mentioned the Dorothy thing. And I think she kind of looks like a toy a little bit. ’cause like it’s like simple clothing. Like you know, solid color. I just had that thought right now. But I feel like it works
Ashley (26m 16s):
Okay
Anne (26m 16s):
Even though it’s like, oh I’d love to see her in different outfits. Like literally the whole movie is supposed to take place within a couple of hours of her life.
Ashley (26m 22s):
Which makes sense. Yeah. And then she’s got like white, this horrible like white slouchy socks and white ugly tennis shoes. Her shoes,
Anne (26m 29s):
Her like so bad. Her legs, like her whole sock and shoe area looks so chunky. It’s kind of funny.
Ashley (26m 34s):
Yes. Eighties.
Anne (26m 36s):
Yeah. And one thing I noticed in the intro, she and her sister are talking to each other and like Drew like says you are rap to her. Like it’s like, seems like it’s a playful kind of thing. But yeah, they’re cute.
Ashley (26m 47s):
Cute
Anne (26m 47s):
Together. Did she just call her a rat and then she says it again? Yep.
Ashley (26m 50s):
I think they do have a sweet little connection. I’m sure Drew was like loving having a big sister feeling.
Anne (26m 55s):
Absolutely. I also, just to kind of go back to a little, her loss a little bit. Like she does say, I think you mentioned it like there was like a welcoming, loving. Yeah. You can feel that. Like there’s the, the part when she’s like face to face with that actor Googie Gress. I was like, oh, there’s so much like tenderness there. Yeah. I
Ashley (27m 12s):
Just sweet like
Anne (27m 12s):
True tenderness. So anyway, I loved that. And then I just have to go back to her cooking. So I, she talked about that she’s gonna like cook dinner course
Ashley (27m 19s):
’cause she’s 11 and in charge of the family.
Anne (27m 21s):
Yeah. And there’s like a crazy storm that’s about to happen. She’s watching the weather report and she’s like stirring some like, I don’t know what she’s stirring. Don’t either. But she’s like, it looks like the fork is like floating above the bowl and she’s like pretending to stir. I’m like, she couldn’t, she have like actually stirred. I don’t know. It looked, it looked really funny. But shek was supposed to be like shocked by the impending storm. So Yes. So, okay. So what else do you have?
Ashley (27m 45s):
Okay, so she runs to the toy store where her sister works to let her know because the phones are out and I guess she has to tell everybody there’s a blizzard coming. Yep. So then we get Keanu who also works there. He is so cute in this like so handsome and dreamy. But his acting Woo boy.
Anne (28m 1s):
I mean I, okay. I love Keanu Reeves. Me too. I think the acting is like, it feels like him.
Ashley (28m 6s):
It feels like the perfect, like if you were to make fun of Keanu Reeves acting. Exactly. This is what it would be.
Anne (28m 11s):
Exactly. I
Ashley (28m 12s):
Love this line.
9 (28m 14s):
My Jeep’s got four wheel drive. I’ll take you both home.
Ashley (28m 18s):
Except spoiler alert, not fine.
Anne (28m 21s):
Also not a Jeep.
Ashley (28m 23s):
Is
Anne (28m 23s):
It not? It’s not a Jeep. Oh, that’s hilarious. Not branded Jeep. So it’s one of those things where it’s like tissue, the generic, the Kleenex. Yeah. Yep. Anyway, I’m sure someone who’s listening is like, yeah, I I clocked that. Yeah.
Ashley (28m 36s):
But look at you coming through with the car info. Always. I mean that is, that will never be me. So good job.
Anne (28m 40s):
I had a little help there.
Ashley (28m 43s):
How do you feel about this really cool casual sexual harassment by the toy store owner? Hate to her sister. Disgusting. Like
Anne (28m 50s):
Some of the things that
Ashley (28m 51s):
He says in this, like, this is a children’s movie, what are we doing? Yes. What are we doing here? It’s real gross.
Anne (28m 58s):
It’s,
Ashley (28m 59s):
And Drew stands up to defend her sister and she has that classic little smirk that she would sometimes have in movies. Yes. You know the one I’m talking about where she looks like she’s about to start laughing.
Anne (29m 10s):
Absolutely.
10 (29m 13s):
Don’t you talk to Mary like that.
Anne (29m 15s):
I like that. After that boss is like, what the heck is that? And then the boss and the sister, they start like loudly fighting in the middle of the toy star. Yeah. Like I’m like okay.
Ashley (29m 29s):
But I did appreciate that the sister was like calling him out for his totally disgusting remarks.
Anne (29m 34s):
Totally. Like, it is great.
Ashley (29m 35s):
And this carries over when spoiler, when we get ahead to Toyland and this carries over where this older man is just making these really inappropriate remarks about the sister who’s like 20.
Anne (29m 44s):
Yes. Older man. And it’s actually the same person. We’ll talk about how it’s, this is another Wizard of Oz similarity. I love when Drew makes an announcement on the toy store thing and like warning people about the impending storm.
11 (29m 59s):
Excuse me, everybody I just heard on tv, there’s gonna be a major snow storm hitting Cincinnati any minute. And Christmas Eve, he should not go home while you still can.
Ashley (30m 9s):
And then they all panic and like run. It’s so unrealistic.
Anne (30m 12s):
It’s like fruit teddy bears for any purchase over $75. Like trying to get people to stay. It’s so silly.
Ashley (30m 20s):
All right. So they get in the car, which is not a Jeep apparently. And did you notice like before they start singing, Drew’s like staring into space and looks like she’s gonna puke for no reason. It’s so random. Yes.
Anne (30m 31s):
She just looks like very serious and like, ugh. Like
Ashley (30m 34s):
She’s nauseous or something. I don’t know why was going on. Maybe she drank too much the night before.
Anne (30m 38s):
Oh no. I have a feeling the car is supposed to be really bumpy. So I feel like maybe she put, she’s supposed to look uncomfortable
Ashley (30m 44s):
But then she snaps out of it. Yeah. It’s weird.
Anne (30m 47s):
That’s because they start singing the song.
Ashley (30m 49s):
Oh god. The song. Probably one of the more, most known parts of this movie is this weird ass song about Cincinnati where they live and how wonderful it is.
12 (30m 59s):
Cincinnati
8 (31m 0s):
The best town Ohio say
12 (31m 4s):
At first they called it but Cincinnati, they named it Cincinnati.
Anne (31m 11s):
But the song seems to like fix a lot of things. Spoiler alert.
Ashley (31m 15s):
Although it’s a magical song.
Anne (31m 17s):
Yeah. But like they’re, you know, they’re driving on these rough roads. It looks, it’s really funny. The scenes on the inside, the car is like clearly on a set being shaken around. It’s super funny. And then I wrote a note, does she die? It’s, it’s kind of a joke because she like falls out of the car. Right.
Ashley (31m 32s):
And she flies out of the car. Yeah. On her sled. Oh that’s
Anne (31m 35s):
Right.
Ashley (31m 36s):
Goes right into a tree and the whole thing goes black as if she died. Yeah.
Anne (31m 41s):
Oh well I, I guess we were making a parallel to Wizard of Oz, but we should also make a parallel to 51st states. Oh,
Ashley (31m 47s):
I like it. Yeah. Good one. Good one. It wasn’t
Anne (31m 51s):
A cow, it was a tree. And she’s fine. But she does have some like delirium. So let’s go to Toyland.
Ashley (31m 58s):
Okay, so she’s floating through the sky on her sled
Anne (32m 3s):
Of
Ashley (32m 3s):
Course. Literally flying down from the clouds. Yeah. And she’s flying over Toyland, which it’s kind of amazing. They built this actual set in Germany. So the whole thing is like a practical set, sort of like
Anne (32m 15s):
A, is it still there? Back
Ashley (32m 16s):
Lot. Oh my god. Imagine. Imagine if like on Google Earth you could find the remnants of the like cookie factory. Oh
Anne (32m 22s):
My God. Someone let us know.
Ashley (32m 24s):
Okay. So there’s all these weird creepy people in animal suits. I hate it. Like it’s all like heads that don’t have any like, you know, movement on them. The faces are just blank. There’s like all kinds of weird animals, which I don’t really understand. It’s Toyland. I don’t get it. There’s a raggedy Ann did you catch her?
Anne (32m 42s):
I don’t think I did. She’s
Ashley (32m 43s):
So scary. Oh God, she’s real bad. She’s really scary. And she meets our quote unquote chubby buddy. Yep. Georgie Porgie. And he gives her a cookie that was just hanging out inside his hat on his sweaty head and she eats it. Okay.
Anne (32m 59s):
No questions asked. But we know, you know Drew personally, she kisses her star. She may or may not have kissed Lionel’s marking at the cemetery. So she likes to put things in her mouth that have been in questionable places. So yeah, in this whole surreal portion, which feels very Wizard of Oz because she’s just had this accident and now she’s suddenly in this like land.
Ashley (33m 23s):
And in the land there’s people that look like people in her normal life that she doesn’t make note of that they’re the same people.
Anne (33m 29s):
Yeah. They’re literally the same people. It also has like a Elgin Wonderland vibe to it.
Ashley (33m 34s):
Yeah, I thought that too.
Anne (33m 35s):
Even one of the guys says, who are you?
Ashley (33m 38s):
Weird. I didn’t catch that. That’s amazing.
Anne (33m 40s):
Yeah. Pretty amazing. And then Drew says,
13 (33m 44s):
Boy for talent looks like so much fun. This is pretty strange stuff.
Ashley (33m 48s):
And she’s like skipping in a circle. So awkward. Okay, so there’s a wedding happening. So Mary and Jack, no I’m sorry she’s not marrying Jack. They’re together, they’re in love. But she’s gonna marry the villain. Farby Barnaby because her shitty mom is making her marry this gross older villain guy. Because otherwise they’re gonna lose their house.
Anne (34m 11s):
They’re gonna lose, she’s gonna lose her shoe.
Ashley (34m 13s):
Oh yeah, she, she’s the old woman who lives in a shoe. Thank you. Let’s be, let’s be clear. And I love she, you know, I heard your character Drew’s character’s called Lisa. I feel like we’re gonna say Drew the whole time. But yes, she calls this woman out for being a shitty mom
13 (34m 28s):
And Mrs. Ha, you should be shame forcing your poor daughter to go live in a bowling ball just to pay your mortgage
Anne (34m 38s):
Right away. Basically in the movie. The music is pretty hilarious. But it gets even more hilarious when they’re in Toyland.
Ashley (34m 43s):
It’s bad eighties bad. I don’t
Anne (34m 45s):
Think it’s bad. I think it’s actually pretty good. Yeah, I think it’s good. Like it’s like well done music and I think it works for the weirdness of the film.
Ashley (34m 53s):
Okay.
Anne (34m 53s):
Because the movies, well movies, cheesy music,
Ashley (34m 57s):
Let’s put it this way. The eighties had a really low standard for entertainment. They just did. Like there’s amazing movies that came outta the eighties. I’m not saying overall, but like there are some really bad things that just were like, yeah, this is good enough. Let’s do it. Yep, yep. Since we’re talking about music, Drew’s character stops the wedding somehow. It doesn’t really make sense to me how her like interjecting stops everything. But it does. I love that. She says right before she stops it she says,
13 (35m 28s):
But Mary’s so young and pretty, she can’t possibly marry a pitties creature like that. I told you
Ashley (35m 35s):
So weird.
Anne (35m 36s):
That’s the only explanation.
Ashley (35m 38s):
The dialogue is so weird. Yeah, right. Not that he’s a creep.
Anne (35m 42s):
Yeah. Not that he’s a creep and evil. Like it’s just about how how pretty And
Ashley (35m 46s):
He’s ugly. Yeah.
Anne (35m 48s):
Oh
Ashley (35m 48s):
God. So yeah this, so they all do this big weird ass song celebrating her, which is again very Wizard of Oz after Dorothy Kills the Witch. Yep. And I just was laughing at like one of the lyrics I heard.
14 (35m 60s):
Let’s hear it. For the folk who love freedom, we need,
Ashley (36m 7s):
What
Anne (36m 9s):
Are they talking about? Americans? I know.
Ashley (36m 10s):
I don’t know. And then Drew dude’s like a really impressive round off. Like if you don’t know what that is, it’s like a cartwheel that you land on both feet. Impressive. Every once in a while she’ll like pull some sort of acrobatic or dance move out where I’m like, what? Yeah, like you can do the splits. You can like she can do a lot of things that she doesn’t act like she can do. Oh
Anne (36m 29s):
Absolutely. I’m just gonna say this. Probably say it a bunch of times. ’cause apparently I’m shallow. Drew’s so cute in this.
Ashley (36m 36s):
She is really cute and, and I kind of noticed, I don’t know if I like was imagining this and I doubt they filmed it in chronological order, but I noticed like towards the end she looks older. Like
Anne (36m 46s):
I agree
Ashley (36m 47s):
You did you notice that too? Like her face is kind of thinned out and like she just looks a little bit older.
Anne (36m 52s):
Well how long did they film this? It was like a few months.
Ashley (36m 54s):
A few months. Yeah.
Anne (36m 55s):
So she might’ve been going through some stuff and plus when you’re 11,
Ashley (36m 58s):
Like yeah you’re changing a lot. You’re
Anne (36m 60s):
Changing a lot. So she probably genuinely is like, I feel like I, I kept thinking about Drew as a person. Yeah. You know, during this. So I’m like, oh that like not just her growing but also like she’s experiencing like a different country for the first time. It sounds like she was dating a 15-year-old. She sounds like, you know, was was partying while she was there. So there was some stuff happening in her life that might have impacted how mature she looked.
Ashley (37m 26s):
Here’s a positive note. I do like the cookie factory set. I think it’s really cute. It’s cute. It’s confusing at first what the plan is. I figured out later but So the bad guy in his like goons who I can’t stand
Anne (37m 38s):
That look like Nosferatu.
Ashley (37m 40s):
Yeah, they do. You had a good call. They’re throwing all these boxes of cookies into a cellar door. He had to, I had to put it that way. And they’re like of course doing it as slowly as possible by being all like comical about it.
Anne (37m 54s):
So, but also, yeah, they like set up a ramp of a table and then start like sliding them into there. They’re
Ashley (37m 60s):
Like hitting ’em with baseball bats.
Anne (38m 2s):
The one other thing I thought was really funny and I was like called it as I was watching it, even though I didn’t remember this, one of the goons is like putting a cake carefully into a box and then Oh the box. Yes. So tough. But it feels very like appropriate. Like that feels like eighties comedy. Yeah.
Ashley (38m 20s):
Yeah. Eighties comedy quote unquote comedy. Yeah. Okay. So then Drew’s meeting her mom in this world who’s the old lady who lives in a shoe. She’s introducing all her kids and I was just cracking up ’cause she’s like introducing all these nursery rhyme characters, which is kind of fun. Yeah. And then she like has like five more and she goes, I forget who this one is. And then she never introduces the rest. So I’m like, I guess they ran out of ideas,
Anne (38m 45s):
But we’re also maybe supposed to believe that she doesn’t really care about them. Yeah,
Ashley (38m 47s):
She is. She does play this like absent mindedness. Really. Well she’s pretty hilarious in it. Yes. And then I had to listen to this part three times in a row. Drew kind of flubbed a line.
13 (38m 57s):
Mrs. Hubbard, I think the same as your Toy Master. When two young people love each other, they should be allowed to be together.
Ashley (39m 4s):
So again, it’s like, yeah. Did they really like take their time and refilm things and they were just like, this is good enough. Yeah.
Anne (39m 10s):
I thought it was a typo in your notes, which is really funny how you explained it around this time in the film. But she’s trying to convince this woman who is her mom in the other alternate universe. She says
13 (39m 24s):
At a mature man of the world, like Mr. Barnaby, she be free to marry a more elegant, glamorous woman of the world such as yourself.
Ashley (39m 34s):
She’s like, okay, if this weird lady’s gonna marry off her daughter, maybe I can make her be interested in him instead. Yes. Oh my God. Like how about just nobody goes with this creep.
Anne (39m 43s):
Absolutely. I think that’s when she says she’s gonna sell her children. Yeah. At that point. Yes.
Ashley (39m 47s):
Lovely. Alright. So they get into these little cars, which are really quite cute.
Anne (39m 53s):
They’re very cute.
Ashley (39m 54s):
Yeah. At first I was like, oh, the flower on them. Like the way it’s stenciled kind of reminded me of the old flower films logo. Yeah. When I saw them side by side, I was like, eh, not really. But I still liked it. The
Anne (40m 4s):
Way it does is that the petals are kind of detached. It’s like very stylized daisy. Not a realistic daisy. Yeah. You know, so cute. I love how the cars sound when they’re moving. Also, I love how much they show them riding around in these cars. It’s so cute. Especially
Ashley (40m 23s):
’cause the set is actually quite small. Like you wouldn’t need a car to go anywhere. It’s like two blocks and We’ll, we’ll get into that later on. Yes. At first I was so confused ’cause I’m like the bad guy’s talking about how millions of missing cookies and like I was like, who’s, who are the customers? Like are they sending these to the real world? But then I guess it’s just the creepy teddy bears in town that eat them millions.
Anne (41m 4s):
Well they, yeah. They said something about like, well how are we gonna feed the teddy bears? So ridiculous
Ashley (41m 12s):
As if the those mouths on those teddy bears open. Gimme a break. Yes.
Anne (41m 17s):
There’s a point when, when Drew encounters the bad guys and I don’t really know what’s happening, but in the cookie factory,
15 (41m 26s):
You again cin, he waley out the door or into the flower grinder, which
13 (41m 33s):
Shall it be, I think maybe out the door sounds better.
Anne (41m 39s):
So great.
Ashley (41m 41s):
Oh man. Okay. Then they go visit the toy master, this mysterious man and they go into his little workshop, which I found was like kind of underwhelming personally. But anyway, I
Anne (41m 53s):
Thought it was pretty cool actually. Okay.
Ashley (41m 55s):
You like all those little, what are those called? Those spinny things? Do you know?
Anne (41m 59s):
I know. Was it kind of like a mobile or was it like something that’s standing up?
Ashley (42m 2s):
No, there’s a name for them. It’s like actually a Christmas thing and there’s one in a Christmas vacation. Has an Eddie like touches in all the little like pieces fall apart.
Anne (42m 12s):
Oh, that sounds familiar. Yeah.
Ashley (42m 14s):
All right. Anyway, there’s a lot of those in there, but did you notice that there’s like these two elves in there who don’t move their mouths, but there’s like overdubbed dialogue for them, but they’re not, they’re not speaking. It’s
Anne (42m 25s):
So weird. I didn’t notice There are like, I did one thing, I did notice, since you’re mentioning like the sound, I feel like all the audio seems like it was like rerecorded later. Yeah. Like it seems adrd.
Ashley (42m 35s):
Yeah. And you know what’s interesting is that when the actress Jill was on that podcast when she, this wasn’t Drew relevant, so I didn’t note it, but she says that when they did one of the songs, like recorded it like she wasn’t really prepared and they were like, don’t worry, we’re gonna like rerecord it in a studio later. Okay. And then they didn’t.
Anne (42m 53s):
Oh no. She was like
Ashley (42m 54s):
Mortified with the take.
Anne (42m 56s):
Oh no.
Ashley (42m 58s):
Yeah.
Anne (42m 60s):
They were like, ah, that’s too much work. Yeah,
Ashley (43m 2s):
Good enough. Drew like randomly. She’s like, what’s in the that behind that door? Even though like, why would you say that? Yeah. And there’s all these creepy toy soldiers who have like, like frozen faces and the toy master says something about them being wonderful and Drew’s like,
13 (43m 19s):
Oh, you’re right. They are wonderful. Really?
Anne (43m 26s):
I love when the toy master says to Drew that the wooden toys just aren’t popular anymore. And she like makes a little serious kind of sad face.
Ashley (43m 34s):
Aw. And so basically the bad guys like framed Jack for all these missing cookies and the way that things work in this town is very confusing. So the judge guy, I don’t know what he is, he like has him arrested and they go break him out of jail and then they put the judge in the jail cell so they can run away.
Anne (43m 54s):
Yes. And then after that happens, Drew says to to the judge,
13 (44m 0s):
I’m lucky, I’m sorry sir, but that’s the way the cookie came doing crumbles. Ha ha. Little joke
Anne (44m 7s):
The way she does. Ha. Okay, what happens next?
Ashley (44m 12s):
Okay. I don’t remember how, but somehow Jack gets captured by the bad guys.
Anne (44m 16s):
I do remember how he, they Oh, open a trap door in the cookie shop. That’s right. Because they’re trying to figure out who stole the cookies.
Ashley (44m 23s):
They found out that the, of course the chubby guy found some cookies on the ground. So they’re like eating them. This is evidence. I’m like, well, cookies on the ground in the cookie factory makes sense to me. But okay. Yeah.
Anne (44m 34s):
They’re like, where did you find them? Because they might help us. I love that whole part. ’cause then they’re like trying to find where the cookies were.
Ashley (44m 38s):
Yeah. It’s so bad.
Anne (44m 40s):
Yeah. It’s, it’s, it’s, I was gonna say, it’s so good,
Ashley (44m 42s):
So bad. It’s good. And then the goons. So again like, what’d you say? They look like nasra too. Yeah. The way that they are acting and the like slapstick again, quote unquote comedy. It reminds me so much of what I was just talking about in Con Sawyer. Yeah. Where there’s like the dumb little minions. They’re always dumb and they’re always like slapstick and it’s like, yeah. Was such a thing in the eighties. I don’t understand it. Like how was that funny? It was such a like a trope. It’s just cracks me up.
Anne (45m 13s):
Yeah. That they would be like a sidekick.
Ashley (45m 15s):
Yeah. Always. Like the bad guy always picks these like two dumb asses to do all his things for
Anne (45m 20s):
Him. Yeah. And you can just imagine them like bumping heads. Yes. You know, like
Ashley (45m 24s):
Literally I’ll just say it now because later on I don’t feel like in the beginning this is there, but later on all these cartoony sound effects happen every time that they’re on because they absolutely, they’re just like hitting trees and things are bumping in them in the Oh my god. All right. And
Anne (45m 41s):
They’re unnecessarily driving cars around.
Ashley (45m 47s):
I fast forwarded through the villains song ’cause like we only have so much time guys.
Anne (45m 52s):
Absolutely. You noted how useless the toy master seems because they’re kind of like, can’t you help in any way? There’s all this stuff
Ashley (45m 59s):
Happening. Yeah. They keep going to him. He’s supposed to be powerful and stuff and he is just like, oh I’m not, I can’t really do anything.
Anne (46m 6s):
Yes. But he’s like got this calm demeanor that’s kind of like, oh
Ashley (46m 9s):
Yeah. At one point I think Drew even says like, he’s not gonna be able to help us. He’s a pacifist or something weird like that. Oh does she? Yeah. It’s weird. Oh my
Anne (46m 16s):
God. I love my favorite line in that kind of part is Drew says to him, well
13 (46m 22s):
For instance, don’t you have the power to turn Barnaby into a, a windup pussycat or something. I mean, I don’t think you realize how evil he is.
Ashley (46m 30s):
He probably could. He does have a jar of all the evil that he’s collected in the world. What?
Anne (46m 35s):
Oh God. That’s such a
Ashley (46m 36s):
Weird plot point. Yeah. They go to rescue Jack Drew says for like the 50th time that she’s not a child. What
13 (46m 43s):
The hell? That child, I’m not a child.
Anne (46m 47s):
She says that so many times in this. It’s, it’s a theme for sure.
Ashley (46m 50s):
Yeah. And you said you were kind of thinking about real life Drew every time she said it, which is like definitely an interesting layer.
Anne (46m 57s):
Yeah, there’s, there’s something at the end that feels very like, I’m like, it’s almost heart wrenching that I, I was like just thinking they’re talking to Drew, not to Lisa. Yeah. She says something to Barnaby. I don’t even remember what actually is happening at this point.
15 (47m 11s):
I will be master of Toyland.
13 (47m 13s):
You are the monster of Toyland. Barnaby. How could you ever wish evil the most wonderful place that ever existed. You’re insane.
Ashley (47m 20s):
Well she has like a whole little speech,
Anne (47m 23s):
Which is like a little bit like not really but like Olive.
Ashley (47m 27s):
Oh my favorite favorite.
Anne (47m 30s):
Actually Lisa does have a little bit of olive in her.
Ashley (47m 33s):
I love that.
Anne (47m 34s):
Yeah.
Ashley (47m 35s):
And then like, oh yeah. So that’s probably when the bad guys like tie them up in the Toy Master’s workshop, tie them up, like barely put a rope around them. It’s so silly.
Anne (47m 44s):
Yeah. Not the most effective time. No, it’s
Ashley (47m 46s):
Very funny. Funny. And then there’s this creepy gross little bird thing during the whole movie that’s like Barnaby’s other
Anne (47m 52s):
Pet, I
Ashley (47m 52s):
Guess they call him troll log. And he is so creepy and gross. I hate it.
Anne (47m 58s):
He’s really creepy and gross. But when he like starts to peck at
Ashley (48m 1s):
Oh God
Anne (48m 2s):
Through character and then that, that’s what gets her like released. It’s really funny ’cause it’s like his, he’s supposed to be like a bad guy, but he literally pokes off the rope
Ashley (48m 11s):
And then the toy master paints over his eye and I was laughing ’cause that’s what he does earlier with for the elves. They’re like, toy Master, toy Master help with this toy. And he like paints eyes. I’m like, that’s all he can do.
Anne (48m 23s):
That’s his only role. And guide people to, you know, he is like, he seems like he’s a little bit like a fairy godmother. A little bit for
Ashley (48m 31s):
Drew. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anne (48m 32s):
I hadn’t really thought about that before, but it’s just like he’s got like this army of, he’s got like the tools, you know, but not the know-how something
Ashley (48m 40s):
Like that. He’s like, it can only take you so far.
Anne (48m 44s):
Yes. Let’s talk about that jar of evil.
Ashley (48m 46s):
Oh my God. Right. So, so the whole gang ends up in the layer. ’cause they all fall through different trap doors that all lead to one place in the bowling ball Of course. And then Uhoh here comes that jar of evil air. So he, the villain like spreads it out and they all start turning into trolls slash monsters.
Anne (49m 7s):
Yep.
Ashley (49m 8s):
Keanu was like making me laugh so hard in this part. And then our solution that Drew comes up with miraculously just sing the Cincinnati song everybody and you’ll, you’ll not be monsters anymore. And they all know the words even though they’re not technically the same people that were singing it. Yeah. In the real world.
Anne (49m 28s):
Oh yeah, good point.
Ashley (49m 30s):
But I don’t understand the like propaganda for the city. As we mentioned before. Maybe one of the writers is from there.
Anne (49m 37s):
I don’t know. But one of my favorite things about that part is Lisa. Yeah. Is not impacted by like, she’s not turning,
13 (49m 49s):
Nothing’s happening to me. I guess I’m mute because I’ve friend Cincinnati. Yes.
Anne (49m 55s):
And it’s funny ’cause I was like, wait, is she supposed to be acting the same way as they’re like, I honestly thought that it was like bad acting for a second. Yeah. And then it was like, I even wrote in my notes like seemingly not impacted by the green fog.
Ashley (50m 8s):
Oh because she’s from Cincinnati dad. Yeah, of
Anne (50m 11s):
Course. Of course. That makes you immune.
Ashley (50m 13s):
And you can definitely tell when she starts singing that it’s a woman. It’s not Drew in any shape or or form.
Anne (50m 19s):
Yeah. And then the last line of that part was,
13 (50m 23s):
I told you Cincinnati was a great place.
Ashley (50m 27s):
Yeah. It’s funny, before it it started. I was like, oh God, I hate the part when they’re all fake that they’re monsters to get out. Oh, it’s hilarious. Oh God. I was like, cr cringe, cringe, cringe. And then when it started I was like, wait, this is actually funny. Like I, I remembered it being like secondhand embarrassment but I, I was cracking up at Drew.
Anne (50m 44s):
My God. And then we get another great line
0 (50m 48s):
Master master three fours for our wonderful master.
Ashley (50m 56s):
And then did you notice when they come out of the little cell that Drew looks at one of the bad guys and does a cat hiss? Yeah. And it was like,
Anne (51m 4s):
That’s so true.
Ashley (51m 5s):
Exactly how she does it now. I can’t think of like an example, but she definitely does it a lot. Oh
Anne (51m 11s):
Yeah. She like does it on her show and stuff. Yeah. Like yeah, absolutely. I was like, oh it was amazing. It’s perfect.
Ashley (51m 16s):
Never changed Drew. Yeah,
Anne (51m 17s):
Yeah. Please never changed.
Ashley (51m 19s):
So then there’s like this super drawn out escape from this underground layer. Oh my God. It just felt like it was going on forever. I don’t know if you had that feeling too, but I was impressed with the set. I was like, wow, they really built this whole thing. Yeah, yeah. But I was laughing. So there’s a part where Keanu and Drew get on a rope swing to get across like a Oh yes. What would you call that? To get from one cliff to the other, whatever. Yeah. But it just cracked me up. It was reminding me of how when he came on her show, she told a story about on her 16th birthday, he like walked into the club and took her on a motorcycle ride randomly. Yes. And then her little sounds that she made, I was just cracking up thinking of 16-year-old her and him on a motorcycle.
Anne (52m 2s):
I had a similar thought ’cause I was thinking, not like necessarily about that part, but I was thinking about like, oh like five years later. Yeah. He rode on a motorcycle.
Ashley (52m 10s):
Very different ride.
Anne (52m 11s):
Yes.
0 (52m 13s):
Ready? Yeah.
Ashley (52m 18s):
It’s so weird.
Anne (52m 19s):
Yeah. And then we have the car chase.
Ashley (52m 22s):
Oh yeah. So, which we’ve been teasing a little bit. The big climax, the car chase where they literally just drive in a big circle. I
Anne (52m 31s):
Was like, is this a bumper car? It kind
Ashley (52m 33s):
Of was bumper cars. I totally had the same thought.
Anne (52m 36s):
But then I was like, this is kind of funny. Like, I was just trying to think that, are they going fast? Are they going really slow? It’s like pretty slow. I wrote in my notes, they seem kind of dangerous, but it’s only because like if they actually hit each other, there
Ashley (52m 48s):
Is one part where two of them hit each other and I was a little like
Anne (52m 53s):
Yeah. And there’s another great line Drew says to them, like, while they’re chasing around, I swear she says Ggo.
Ashley (53m 6s):
I think you’re right. And honestly like the dialogue in this is so odd. Some of it is so formal. There’s a lot of You must, we must. Yeah. And yeah, then there’s the weird stuff like that where I’m like, what? That’s not a thing People said,
Anne (53m 18s):
Yeah,
Ashley (53m 20s):
I already mentioned this before, but this is where those cartoon sound effects on the goons like really kick into high gear. Oh boy.
Anne (53m 27s):
And it sounds, but it sounds like so all of it’s so silly,
Ashley (53m 32s):
So slapstick.
Anne (53m 33s):
But even though like the, the creatures I say I’m saying creatures ’cause they really are like creatures. Like the, yeah. I don’t know if this is that part where like they’re releasing, maybe that’s a little bit later, but like
Ashley (53m 42s):
When they’re coming out from Y
Anne (53m 44s):
Yeah. I’m like, are they just like made of trash and fabric? Like I was just like, I don’t,
Ashley (53m 49s):
I bet they were like roots, like underground roots. I don’t know. But creatures is the best way to put
Anne (53m 55s):
It. I guess they’re more rootlike for sure. Like organic. But they’re so creepy. They
Ashley (53m 60s):
Are scary. I totally, and I, I told you that little bird thing really creeps me out too. The troll log.
Anne (54m 6s):
Yeah, it is. I mean it’s all pretty creepy. I think I can laugh past it now, but maybe when I’ve watched it before, like years and years ago, I was just like, ugh. And having to like have pictures of them in my collection, I’m like,
Ashley (54m 20s):
Merry Christmas.
Anne (54m 22s):
Yeah.
0 (54m 40s):
There’s
Anne (54m 41s):
A part where they’re back in the toy masters
Ashley (54m 44s):
Once again looking to him for help. Even though he is like, I can’t do anything.
Anne (54m 49s):
But it’s him who says
16 (54m 51s):
There is one person who was never really a child life, made her grow up too fast.
Anne (54m 59s):
And I couldn’t help but like immediately think that there’s no way Drew didn’t feel like this related to her life.
Ashley (55m 6s):
I know the wild thing is that you can tell I was getting really checked out by this part because I was just like, oh I can’t take this movie anymore. So I didn’t really think about it. But you’re so right when you watch it with that view, it’s definitely like, oh this is sad.
Anne (55m 18s):
Yeah. And if you, if you look at Drew’s face and think of it as Drew having these feelings, it’s very interesting.
13 (55m 26s):
I guess life just made me grow up too fast.
Anne (55m 29s):
Be one. Say have like a Wizard of Oz sort of
Ashley (55m 32s):
Big time.
Anne (55m 33s):
Like, so Lisa Drew’s character is supposed to kind of find her inner child and
13 (55m 39s):
Yes, I kept my teddy and I miss him.
17 (55m 43s):
Then you do still remember how important toys can be. Lisa
18 (55m 46s):
Say that you really remember Lisa.
19 (55m 50s):
Remember Lisa say that you remember, remember
Ashley (55m 53s):
Believe in the toys. Toys Lisa believe in them
Anne (55m 57s):
And I couldn’t help. It’s like there’s no place like home. So it’s like it totally is. Yeah. You know, like that whole part is very like, come on, you have all the power inside you kind of thing.
Ashley (56m 6s):
Yeah. Oh, and don’t forget the Toy Master song. As soon as you started singing, I was like, oh no, this is rough.
Anne (56m 12s):
Oh my God. The creepy thing
Ashley (56m 13s):
Is like Keanu’s voice is not very good. His voice is not very good. And then once again we get poor Drew being the one that’s dubbed just like in everyone says I love you my God. Like hers couldn’t have been that bad. That
Anne (56m 24s):
Bad. Exactly.
Ashley (56m 26s):
But yeah, I was like, oh my God. Another song where there’s like an old man singing to little child Drew and touching her face. Like why is this a thing that I’m noticing happened a lot in the eighties. I don’t like it. I think
Anne (56m 38s):
It’s supposed to represent some kind of like, you know Fatherly mother. Yes, exactly. Like, but it’s also like, ugh. But I, I was noticing Drew’s expression during the song and I felt like she looked genuinely sad.
Ashley (56m 52s):
Aw. She’s like, I wanna go get wasted guys. I don’t wanna talk about how I’m not a kid because I’m not a kid.
Anne (56m 58s):
Guys, this is so boring. I’m not, again not. And then, you know, she kind of is like, I’m still a child. I got my teddy bear and I miss him.
Ashley (57m 7s):
It’s so weirdly formal. Again, it’s, I kept Teddy.
Anne (57m 11s):
That whole part has this both cheese and sort of real, you know, real life connection. Yeah. And then Drew starts the war. I was like, it’s
Ashley (57m 23s):
Kind of weird that this movie is ending on like goons and cannons. ’cause here come all She like lets all the toy soldiers out. ’cause she believes in them now.
Anne (57m 31s):
Yes. I guess they don’t even really show them shooting.
Ashley (57m 35s):
They do. That’s why I was like sort of surprised they don’t show like
Anne (57m 39s):
Anybody getting hurt. Yeah.
Ashley (57m 41s):
But they show me shooting.
Anne (57m 43s):
I mean I, I’ve been watching Game of Thrones so I’m a little bit like, this is like a Game of Thrones and Babes of Toyland.
Ashley (57m 50s):
Okay. So obviously Good triumphs over evil and all the creepy creatures like basically get put behind a fence and they’re like
Anne (57m 60s):
Banished. Yep. Oh they’re banished to the forest of the night or whatever it’s called. Yeah. It’s so weird.
Ashley (58m 6s):
So they’re right there still. Yep.
Anne (58m 8s):
Okay.
Ashley (58m 9s):
And then of course Jack and Mary get to get married, which is cute. They do cute chemistry. Those too.
Anne (58m 14s):
They do very, very cute. I thought, I mean they’re both like adorable. Anyway, the Keanu and the actor Jill adorable.
Ashley (58m 23s):
Yeah. I was like, I didn’t understand when she was walking up the aisle why he had to have his back to her. Is that a thing? I’ve never seen that He kept like trying to turn around and georgie’s like, no, no, turn her. You’ve gotta keep your back to her. I was like, what
Anne (58m 35s):
Didn’t, I didn’t even notice that at one point Drew seems to be like the flower girl and kind of a ring bearer and the ring pillow is a cookie.
Ashley (58m 44s):
Yeah. That was cute. And I did like that she had her flower wreath. I really think that was like a sweet little touch. Oh yes. Finally she’s got on something a little different.
Anne (58m 53s):
Yes. There were a couple times where she was like adjacent. I think that there’s a parade earlier where she’s like by like a flower arch. Yeah,
Ashley (58m 60s):
I know that
Anne (59m 0s):
Too. Then she has the wreath at the end.
Ashley (59m 2s):
Yeah, that was cute.
Anne (59m 3s):
Very cute.
Ashley (59m 4s):
And then Surprise, here comes Santa. It’s really the toy master. He was Santa all along question mark. And the reindeer are wooden cutouts. Huh.
Anne (59m 15s):
And somehow that works.
Ashley (59m 17s):
And there’s two elves that that don’t talk. Those weird elves, that mouth the mouse don’t move. And that’s about all the Santa kind of like, I don’t get, I don’t Is he Santa? Like is he, or is he like Santa’s helper? I don’t get it.
Anne (59m 29s):
I think he’s supposed to be Santa. Okay.
Ashley (59m 31s):
I think so
Anne (59m 32s):
Too. I mean, I don’t know. He is got a whole set of reindeer. You know, even if they are wood cutouts, he’s got all the a Coutre ma of Santa.
Ashley (59m 39s):
You’re right. He does have the like the red and white like santa robes and Yeah. Yes. And J’s just like, oh okay. Sure. Like there’s not really,
Anne (59m 49s):
It’s weird. No question.
Ashley (59m 51s):
Yeah. And then did you notice in Dolan’s crowd there’s a lion that’s wearing a football jersey?
Anne (59m 57s):
Yes. I
Ashley (59m 57s):
Was like, is this more weird Cincinnati shit?
Anne (59m 60s):
I, what’s something, I mean I kind of tried to do a quick search ’cause I saw your note and I couldn’t find anything that that confirmed that. But I’m like, what, what is that toy? It’s like there’s just a random mascot in the Yeah.
Ashley (1h 0m 11s):
Someone has to tell us if that’s like Cincinnati’s colors or something. Yeah.
Anne (1h 0m 15s):
I mean they also, I think I mentioned this before, but they talk about baseball player Pete Rose like so many times. I think there was like two different moments where they’re like talking about Pete Rose. And I’m like, okay. Like I don’t, I don’t get it.
Ashley (1h 0m 28s):
What, what is this? Yes,
Anne (1h 0m 31s):
Yes.
Ashley (1h 0m 32s):
All right. And then of course we’re back home. Don’t worry. She’s just been dreaming. I don’t know. It’s very Wizard of Oz again. But yeah, she’s like wakes up on the couch. I like, they’re like, oh, we’re so worried about you after you flew out of a moving vehicle and hit a tree. We just had you on the couch here hoping you’d wake up.
Anne (1h 0m 50s):
And she looks just fine. No
Ashley (1h 0m 52s):
Medical attention.
Anne (1h 0m 54s):
Absolutely not. But
Ashley (1h 0m 55s):
Yeah, then it starts getting shameless. The Wizard of Oz. She’s pretty much doing. And you were there and you were there.
Anne (1h 1m 1s):
One other thing I wanted to compare to Wizard of Oz is the T Trello’s eye is like, it has visions like the witches crystal ball. Oh
Ashley (1h 1m 11s):
Yeah. Like the villain can watch everybody through it. You’re right. Oh my God.
Anne (1h 1m 15s):
It’s just so, okay, so summary. This is Wizard of Oz on like psychedelics
Ashley (1h 1m 23s):
Eighties cocaine and really bad quality.
Anne (1h 1m 26s):
I mean, and it’s possible. Dear Little Drew was also almost cocaine. Almost.
Ashley (1h 1m 31s):
I’m just kidding. Just a couple months later, not quite yet. And then we end on her weird speech that like sums it all up.
13 (1h 1m 40s):
Oh my, the tree is so beautiful. As beautiful as all the things the Toy Master taught me. Oh, he
20 (1h 1m 47s):
Must be a very wise man.
13 (1h 1m 50s):
He was, he taught me that it was in our hearts that we must stay young and try to be good and above all we must believe. And then we’ll always have a Merry Christmas and everything. Won’t we Always. And always. And always.
Ashley (1h 2m 8s):
Okay. What, what? I don’t understand.
Anne (1h 2m 11s):
But honestly, like overall, I, I left at, at the end of the film I was like, okay, weird as hell. I like was like, I feel like I need to watch it it again. Like,
Ashley (1h 2m 20s):
Oh boy, really? I was like, that’s it. Never again. Every time I put myself through this, I’m like, why did I watch this? It’s so bad. This is my grand finale for Babes.
Anne (1h 2m 31s):
You’re like, I’ve done the podcast on it. Yeah. That’s like, I can put that away.
Ashley (1h 2m 34s):
My work here. It’s done. I think
Anne (1h 2m 36s):
I was just, I’m just like, Drew is is such a like weird point in her career. Yes.
Ashley (1h 2m 42s):
That is this like a very good reason to watch it. ’cause sometimes I’m like, oh my God, she’s exactly her how she was as a kid. Yes. And then sometimes I see like the older version of her, it is like a cool like bridge between both. Yeah.
Anne (1h 2m 54s):
And I think it might’ve been like, when I thought about watching it again, it wasn’t because I missed something in the storyline or felt like something needed to be clarified. It was more,
Ashley (1h 3m 3s):
Or you mean those songs again?
Anne (1h 3m 5s):
I mean I do, you know, the Cincy song really gets me going. Did we mention her name is Li Lisa Cincy Watsky? Or that that’s what the evil guys call her.
Ashley (1h 3m 15s):
Her name’s Lisa Piper. I think you did mention it already. Okay. But the, the bad guy can’t, doesn’t know what Cincinnati is. So he just calls her that the whole time over and over again.
Anne (1h 3m 26s):
Also. I love that her, her name is Piper. Do they say that towards the beginning
Ashley (1h 3m 30s):
When she gets to Toyland? I think she says that’s her name. Okay. Lisa
Anne (1h 3m 34s):
Pipe. That’s my mom’s maiden.
Ashley (1h 3m 36s):
Oh yeah, that’s right. Pipe. I’m surpris. You didn’t catch it.
Anne (1h 3m 39s):
Yeah, I didn’t. I must have not been listening very closely. Okay, so let’s just talk briefly about the release of this masterpiece
Ashley (1h 3m 47s):
Obscure masterpiece.
Anne (1h 3m 49s):
Yes. It aired December 19th, 1986. So basically right when we’re releasing this, right?
Ashley (1h 3m 55s):
Oh yeah. Oh my gosh. You’re
Anne (1h 3m 57s):
Right. Is it the same day we’re releasing
Ashley (1h 3m 58s):
It’s, yes. We did that again. I love it. Okay. 38 years ago. 38
Anne (1h 4m 4s):
Ago.
Ashley (1h 4m 4s):
That’s crazy. Today
Anne (1h 4m 6s):
If you’re listening on the day this is released December 19th. Totally crazy.
Ashley (1h 4m 9s):
I guess part of the reason that seems wild is because we watched on YouTube there’s an amazing, like basically Blu-Ray super high quality version. Oh my God. Yeah. And I can’t believe, like when you look at that, it doesn’t look 38 years old.
Anne (1h 4m 21s):
No. And I, I can’t believe that high, high quality thing is free on YouTube. It’s
Ashley (1h 4m 25s):
Weird. Yeah. It’s very great. We’ll link to it if anybody really wants to sit through this. Yeah, sure. The original airings. So this is like a thing that people who saw it originally still can’t get past. It was 140 minutes long, which
Anne (1h 4m 41s):
I’m like, that’s two hours and 20 minutes long. That’s
Ashley (1h 4m 44s):
Too much Babes in Toyland. I guess also,
Anne (1h 4m 47s):
Is it a Marvel movie?
Ashley (1h 4m 48s):
I know, right? I guess it included a lot of deleted songs, so, okay. No loss there probably. And that version has never been released and I’ve seen all over the internet for years. Oh, we want the full version. So when I was listening to Jill on $2 Late Fee, she said that even when they were doing it, they always knew it was gonna be shortened to 90 minutes for international releases. So they always knew stuff was gonna get cut out. It’s weird. Like what is the, I don’t understand the choice there. There. And she was calling it more. She said they were really calling it more of a mini series, even though it all aired in
Anne (1h 5m 23s):
One night.
Ashley (1h 5m 23s):
Oh. Like it wasn’t, they weren’t really considering it a movie.
Anne (1h 5m 26s):
Maybe they tr maybe they were going to release it in like parts.
Ashley (1h 5m 30s):
Yeah, maybe. But they ended up not doing that. And then they were like, wow, that was too long. We’re never gonna put that out again.
Anne (1h 5m 37s):
What a weird, this movie is just such a weird thing. Like also of course when you search for Babes in Toyland it comes with like all these different versions. So this is just one version that, you know, it’s the only one I’ve seen. Maybe the only one I’ll ever see. I don’t know. Weird movie. The plot seems like, it’s like almost a trope. Yeah. You know, to like have something happen and you know, it’s like totally, you go into another
Ashley (1h 6m 3s):
Universe, you wake up in another world. Yeah. Yeah.
Anne (1h 6m 5s):
But yeah, this was Babes in Toyland. If you, if you all haven’t seen it, you should definitely watch it. I think it’s worthwhile. Even if you’re just like, you know, watching it while you fall asleep might give you nightmares. Yeah.
Ashley (1h 6m 18s):
You wake up to that tralo. No, thank you. But yeah, it is a trip. It is a weird, weird moment in Drew’s filmography. If it wasn’t a Christmas movie, who knows when we would get to this one. Yes.
Anne (1h 6m 32s):
Yes. Exactly. And and the fact that like the Christmas elements of it. Yeah.
Ashley (1h 6m 37s):
It’s very small.
Anne (1h 6m 38s):
Yeah. It’s like just the beginning, we know it’s like they’re Christmas shopping.
Ashley (1h 6m 42s):
Yeah.
Anne (1h 6m 44s):
And then there’s a Christmas tree at the end. And then
Ashley (1h 6m 46s):
Santa. Don’t forget Santa. Oh
Anne (1h 6m 47s):
My God.
Ashley (1h 6m 48s):
Santa flying across the moon. Not nearly as good as ET flying across the moon. Oh my God. Those effects were rough.
Anne (1h 6m 55s):
I almost forgot about the effects. I’m gonna stop defending this movie.
Ashley (1h 7m 1s):
But it was still fun to talk about, that’s
Anne (1h 7m 3s):
For sure. Yes. I’m glad we did it because like, like we’ve said before, getting the excuse to rewatch some of these movies. Yeah.
Ashley (1h 7m 9s):
That is a really fun part of doing this podcast.
Anne (1h 7m 11s):
Like it is funny to be like, I’m doing research right now. Like this is important.
Ashley (1h 7m 15s):
This is important work.
Anne (1h 7m 16s):
Yes. Yes.
Ashley (1h 7m 18s):
I know. I was like, I was watching it at work. I was like, if anybody comes in here and hears this and looks at my screen, they’re gonna be like, what the hell are you doing?
Anne (1h 7m 25s):
Research. Research.
Ashley (1h 7m 28s):
All right. Thanks for sticking with us guys. I hope you didn’t have to watch the last part in double speed like I did with the end of Babes in Toyland. I was like, it’s at the end. If you had fun listening to us talk about this movie, please feel free to leave us a rating or a review. We are almost caught up with reading all the Apple podcast reviews that we know about. So give us some new ones and we’ll read your so on the air.
Anne (1h 7m 55s):
Yes please.
Ashley (1h 7m 57s):
And then of course, as we mentioned before, you can follow us on Instagram at How Do You Drew pod. And then if you wanna be like Drew Barrymore and engage with our other count, it’s at Drew Zm.
Anne (1h 8m 9s):
I, I mean, I just like zoned out for a second hearing. You say that
Ashley (1h 8m 14s):
You went to another world, you landed in a cake.
Anne (1h 8m 19s):
Yes. And while you’re on the internet, you know, ’cause we’re in a, the modern world, make sure you visit and subscribe to our Patreon. Make sure you visit our website at How Do You Drew dot com for episode page. We’ll have lots of fun behind the scenes and just really amazing stuff that you don’t wanna miss.
Ashley (1h 8m 36s):
Yes. There are gonna be some good photos for this one. Yes. So come check out the episode
Anne (1h 8m 40s):
Page super unique and send your listener mail to How Do You Drew [email protected]. Reach out to us on social media. Let
Ashley (1h 8m 48s):
Us know, are you one of those people that watch this as a kid and you have nostalgia and you think it’s great? Or are you with us and you’re like, what the hell is this movie?
Anne (1h 8m 55s):
I would love to hear someone who, who has nostalgia and like they,
Ashley (1h 8m 59s):
They exist. I’ve seen them out there. Yep,
Anne (1h 9m 1s):
Yep. It just, it just wasn’t us for whatever reason. Okay. My question to take us out today is, what’s your favorite Christmas themed dessert?
Ashley (1h 9m 11s):
Like always with the food?
Anne (1h 9m 13s):
I’m hungry.
Ashley (1h 9m 15s):
Do I have one that’s kind of a weird,
Anne (1h 9m 17s):
Or is there like a treat that comes out? Like if it’s candy or something that you feel like you have at Christmas time that you like?
Ashley (1h 9m 24s):
You know, I don’t really do it anymore, but we always used to have a jar of Hershey’s kisses. It was like a Christmas jar that only came out. I don’t even remember really what it looked like. I just remember the lid had one of those, you know, the like, kind of like suctioning blo like Yeah. One of those. So Hershey’s kisses, if I have those still kind of reminds me of Christmas time. Yeah.
Anne (1h 9m 44s):
I feel like they have a Christmas vibe for me too. Yeah,
Ashley (1h 9m 46s):
Well it’s that famous commercial that they’ve been airing forever with the little Hershey’s kisses doing the, we Wish You made Christmas. That’s, that might
Anne (1h 9m 53s):
Be white. That’s so true. And like a kind of a bell shape. Even with kisses. Yeah. Like, yeah. It’s so cute. Anyway, what is it for me? You know, I like Andy’s candies.
Ashley (1h 10m 2s):
Oh well yeah. I always like
Anne (1h 10m 5s):
Those. Yeah, I know they’re around all year. But I associate them with Christmas.
Ashley (1h 10m 8s):
I associate them with Olive Garden. Is that what they give you at the end of? Probably they give you a chocolate mint. It’s very Andy’s like, even if it’s not the same brand. Yes.
Anne (1h 10m 18s):
That is so funny. I thought, oh, I also like peppermint bark. So it’s like all of the different companies.
Ashley (1h 10m 24s):
I like peppermint, like
Anne (1h 10m 25s):
Pepper, pepper. Mm.
Ashley (1h 10m 27s):
All
Anne (1h 10m 27s):
Right. Now I need some candy. Okay, everyone. Merry Christmas. Possibly. Happy New Year.
Ashley (1h 10m 33s):
Yeah, no, really, I don’t think we’ll be out again until in 2024. So thanks for being here. This was a big year for us. We got a huge amount of new listeners this year. Yes. So wow.
Anne (1h 10m 43s):
Hope that it keeps just growing and next year’s even bigger. So here’s the 2024.
Ashley (1h 10m 48s):
Yeah, let’s do it. Thanks everybody. Merry Christmas, Happy, Holidays, all the good stuff.
Anne (1h 10m 53s):
Yes. And we’ll see you next Thursday.
Ashley (1h 10m 55s):
Bye-Bye
Anne (1h 10m 55s):
Bye.
22 (1h 11m 23s):
This episode of the How Do You Drew podcast was researched and produced by Ashley and Anne from thedrewseum.com with help from our sponsor, positive, medium.
Ashley (1h 11m 31s):
Special thanks to Matt Costa for our lovely theme song, Roxy Prima, for our adorable logo. And last but not least, Drew, Barrymore and all the Drewbie who love her, we do this for you. Thank you. Thank you.
Please note that this transcription was automatically generated and is currently unedited.
Ashley (24s):
Okay. Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew.
Anne (27s):
This is A Drew Barrymore Podcast, brought to you by thedrewseum.com
Ashley (31s):
And sponsored by our friends at Positive Medium.
Anne (34s):
I’m Anne.
Ashley (34s):
And I’m Ashley.
Anne (36s):
And our guests.
Movies That Made Us Gay (39s):
My name’s Pete. And I’m Scott. And we are, we are the Movies That Made Us Gay. Woo-hoo.
Anne (45s):
Welcome. Welcome, welcome.
Ashley (48s):
We were trying to think of a mashup name I came up with. How did you get So Gay Drew?
Movies That Made Us Gay (53s):
Hey,
Anne (55s):
Well what was mine? Ashley?
Ashley (56s):
These are the Drew-vies that made us gay.
Movies That Made Us Gay (59s):
Oh, I like that. I like that.
Anne (1m 2s):
So that’s our contribution to this collaboration. And we’re out.
Ashley (1m 7s):
So I’ll just kind of preface by saying, listeners have heard me rave about your podcast for the last, I don’t know, like two months. I found it with your ever after episode. And as I began listening to you guys, I was like, they really know their stuff. What? I’m not sitting here yelling at the car. Like that’s wrong, like I do with other podcasts, like a nerd. And then I started going through your entire,
Movies That Made Us Gay (1m 32s):
That catalog. Yeah,
Ashley (1m 32s):
That catalog. Thank you. And realizing you’ve done like every movie that’s been important to me my whole life. Like the weird stuff from my childhood and the stuff I obsessed about as a teenager by myself with no one else. And I’ve had so many moments. This sounds weird and creepy, but I’ve had so many moments listening to you guys where I like psychically say exactly whatever reference you’re about to say. And I’ve just like, these are my people. So I had to, to stalk you, find you, tell you you had to be my friends and come on the podcast.
Anne (2m 2s):
Yeah,
Movies That Made Us Gay (2m 3s):
Absolutely. Thank you so much for having us on. We love doing kind of like collaborations like this. Yeah. And you know, like you said, we, we try to do as much research as we can. And even if it’s something that like, I’m not super into, I’m just like, well, if I’m gonna blob about it on a microphone for an hour and a half, I need to at least, you know, give it a watch. So yeah. I’m, I’m the same way. If I’m, if I’m listening to a podcast, I’m like, oh my God, people get it together with these facts. Yeah. Just open up your MDB trivia. It’s nothing.
Ashley (2m 35s):
And I also appreciate like that you always get dates correct. Like years. Correct. ’cause I have a weird, like, especially in the nineties, I know exactly when anything came out.
Movies That Made Us Gay (2m 44s):
Yeah, that’s one. That’s all I kind of, I always have the show notes that has stuff like release dates. Yeah. Years, that stuff was made. Kind of like production information. I find all that stuff fascinating.
Ashley (2m 57s):
Yeah, me too. We’re, I guess we’re all a bunch of nerds
Anne (3m 2s):
And I’m like an archivist by like trade. And so I’m like, yes, yes. Let’s talk about dates, let’s talk about records.
Movies That Made Us Gay (3m 10s):
Meanwhile, I have no head for that. Scott will be like, remember when we saw this movie at that one movie theater? I’m like, sure. I guess happen.
Anne (3m 18s):
But also like, I think Ashlyn and I are a mix of that. Yeah. Because I, as Ashley has like the dates and facts, like kind of memorized, but then suddenly I’ll come out with some like random vivid memory of something and it’s like, I don’t, I don’t know.
Ashley (3m 32s):
It’s helpful. We’re a good team, just like you guys.
Movies That Made Us Gay (3m 37s):
Same with us. I think we’re all four of us are, we’re, we work well with each other and that’s why our shows are so successful. Yes.
Ashley (3m 42s):
Totally. Actually, I wanna ask, I’m curious about how you guys have gotten your Patreon so thriving.
Movies That Made Us Gay (3m 49s):
First of all, I am like so proud to say that like everything that we’ve done is completely grassroots. It’s all just like networking and friends and just putting out, I mean, not to pat myself on the back, but putting, just putting out a good product, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And so I think doing things like this, you know, yeah. Collaborating with other podcasts, like-Minded shows, cross-promotion, stuff like that. It’s really kind of spread the word about us. And just kind of being as diligent as we can with socials and just putting ourselves out there. I mean, it could always be better, but knock on wood, it’s as good as it is now. And yeah, we just, we’d love all of our listeners.
Movies That Made Us Gay (4m 31s):
It’s so weird. You know, I, I hesitate and I hate you’re fans. I hate saying you’re fans. I, I hate it. It’s so weird. And you know, when we have guests on, especially when they come to our apartment and we’re like, okay, now we’re gonna do the intro. So look over there, because I, I have to be weird on the mic now. Yeah. All that stuff is so crazy because, you know, we’re just, we’re podcast listeners. We’re enthusiasts. And so we are just like, Hey, we can do it too. And I don’t know, I think just like I said, just trying your hardest to put out as good of a product that we’re proud of and yeah. I don’t know, I guess to pain off somehow.
Ashley (5m 10s):
So Cool.
Anne (5m 11s):
I feel like we identify with that, like that way of going about it. Yeah, a hundred percent. We had this sort of community built in, so we’re like, let’s lean on that community. Let’s put out a product that we would enjoy if we were listening, you know? Yeah. Like Ashley’s always like, I love our podcast,
Ashley (5m 27s):
But I’m like, I listen
Anne (5m 28s):
To this,
Ashley (5m 30s):
I do do a successful
Movies That Made Us Gay (5m 31s):
Show. No. Scott will be editing and he’ll say like, this episode’s really good. And I’m just like, of course it is.
Ashley (5m 38s):
Yeah. That sounds like a really good, I really like this episode. Every time it’s really good. I’m
Anne (5m 44s):
Like, yay. Good. I’m so glad. How do Drewbie Drewbie,
4 (5m 51s):
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Anne (6m 2s):
They offer custom web design and professional coding, search engine optimization, marketing and hosting. So we’ve been hosted by them, but we’ve also been able to take advantage of a lot of their expertise in these other areas as well.
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Anne (6m 40s):
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4 (7m 2s):
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5 (7m 12s):
Drew. Barrymore is Amy Fisher. You ever been with an older guy? Unstoppable. Whatever Amy wants. Amy gets insatiable. I love him and I love the sex. I’m dangerous. I’ll do whatever it takes to get his wife out of the way. Don’t start what? You can’t finish. When I know what I want, I go for it. Let me see it. You are a psycho. Don’t say it though. This is getting outta control. The New York Times calls ABC’s the best of the three. Drew, Barrymore, The Amy, Fisher Story Sunday.
Anne (7m 42s):
So we are here to talk about The Amy, Fisher Story. Yeah.
Ashley (7m 49s):
Probably not one of the like top of the list. We gotta get to this movie, but
Movies That Made Us Gay (7m 54s):
We’ve referenced it on our show. Yeah.
Ashley (7m 56s):
That’s why I’m happy that you guys are bringing it to us in a way.
Movies That Made Us Gay (7m 59s):
Yeah. And before we get too into it, I just have to say on the call we have, we have a very special guest on the call. We have Drew here.
Ashley (8m 8s):
Oh my God.
Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 10s):
Well we have Dylan Saunders.
Ashley (8m 12s):
Yes. Did you know that she was just playing with that on the her show this week?
Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 16s):
Was she really?
Ashley (8m 17s):
It’s like the newest thing on their, the show’s. Instagram is her playing with that with Ariana Debos.
Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 23s):
I love,
Anne (8m 24s):
I’m so happy that this is, that Drew is here today. Yeah, her, her presence is definitely felt. It looks like Elle is stunned right now. She, Drew Barrymore has arrived.
Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 37s):
Kathy Griffin. Yeah.
Anne (8m 40s):
It’s really not, it’s really not a good,
Ashley (8m 43s):
It’s got a profile I feel like. And it’s got her butterfly tattoo. That’s most importantly of all.
Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 49s):
It’s got, it’s got the bear more jawline. Like the chin is definitely there.
Ashley (8m 54s):
The hair is wild.
Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 57s):
Insane. Yeah. These burrow curls are outta control. That’s all the character. Dylan Saunders has insane hair. But that is off topic.
Ashley (9m 7s):
I brought my Amy Fisher VHSI was like, I’ll have this behind me. And then I’m like, where am I gonna have this floating? No,
Anne (9m 14s):
I thought for a split second that they were going to pull out the, that
Ashley (9m 18s):
Would’ve been close enough. This is amazing.
Anne (9m 20s):
You know what I’m, I’m so happy that you have that.
Ashley (9m 23s):
I know.
Anne (9m 23s):
I just gotta say, this is making me so happy. Mine are like in storage still in the box. Yeah.
Ashley (9m 28s):
Ours are still in the boxes. Like for
Movies That Made Us Gay (9m 31s):
The first week of the pandemic, when everybody was like in their apartments finding stuff to do, I broke her out.
Anne (9m 39s):
Oh.
Movies That Made Us Gay (9m 40s):
Like I broke her out like week one of the pandemic.
Anne (9m 44s):
Please tell me you made like a movie or something with the doll. Just
Ashley (9m 48s):
Stop motion. Like the Rosie O’Donnell at Flower Films one.
Movies That Made Us Gay (9m 52s):
I feel we might, that one was wild. I feel like we might’ve done a couple of things that might be on the Patreon. I think there’s some like Christmas decoration videos. Yeah.
Ashley (10m 1s):
Oh, I started signing up for your Patreon the other day on my phone and I hit some sort of wall where I was like, I have to do this on a computer. And I’m so glad you reminded me. ’cause I need to do that.
Movies That Made Us Gay (10m 10s):
Well, lemme tell you this much listeners, the new Patreon app, they completely redesigned their social media. The new app is Carbon.
Ashley (10m 17s):
Okay.
Movies That Made Us Gay (10m 18s):
The new update’s kind of whack. Yeah. It’s weird. Anyway,
Anne (10m 20s):
Yeah, sometimes we talk shit about the platforms we used to. Yeah. Like
Ashley (10m 25s):
Being honest,
Anne (10m 26s):
You know, we’re just like make the technology better. Not worse.
Ashley (10m 31s):
Okay. So should we bring it back to Amy Fisher? For anyone who doesn’t know, this is obviously based on real events. I actually said something to my husband, I’m like, oh yeah, we’re doing The Amy, Fisher Story. He is like, what’s that? I’m like, you know Amy Fisher? And he is like, no. I was like, honey, you know Joey Butta Fuco? You know that name? He is like kind of, I’m like, oh my God.
Anne (10m 50s):
That’s what my boyfriend remembered was Joey. And I was like, Buttafuoco. Like, you
Ashley (10m 54s):
Can’t forget that one. But Pete, if I’m remembering right from what I had heard when you guys were talking about it, you like, remember this real time pretty well.
Movies That Made Us Gay (11m 1s):
Oh, I remember this Real, I think, I think I’m the senior member of this group. Okay. This did happen in 91, 92.
Ashley (11m 10s):
92. Yeah. Was when it like came out in the media.
Movies That Made Us Gay (11m 14s):
Yeah. So I’m in the eighth or ninth grade and I watched, the first one that aired was Amy Fisher My Story. Right. And so this is the one that’s Amy Fisher’s point of view. And in that one, they cast a really handsome guy as Joey. Right. Because it’s Amy’s story,
Anne (11m 36s):
Her perspective is that he was the dreamiest man alive. Yes.
Movies That Made Us Gay (11m 41s):
He was starring on the hit a b, c hour long drama sisters. Oh yeah. The, the girl who played Amy was not famous.
Ashley (11m 49s):
Noelle Parker. Right.
Movies That Made Us Gay (11m 51s):
Yes. So I saw that one first and that was the one that I was like, okay, this is the real deal because it came out first in my, and they must have 12-year-old brain. They must have fast tracked that.
Ashley (12m 1s):
Oh, all of them. They came out within a week of each other. I believe
Movies That Made Us Gay (12m 4s):
It was the very next week. It wasn’t like a year later. Yeah. So then the Alyssa and the Drew version, the Real Event night were on at the time on the same night. That
Anne (12m 15s):
Is crazy.
Movies That Made Us Gay (12m 17s):
So I’m watching the Alyssa version and flipping back and forth and all I’m getting is like newsrooms and courthouses and I’m like, I don’t wanna see this. But you were, you were invested with the Alyssa one.
Ashley (12m 30s):
Oh,
Movies That Made Us Gay (12m 30s):
More on the night. On the night. I feel like I watching Alyssa and then the reason I was kind of not into the Drew one because it was from this reporter’s point of view. So I got, whenever I would switch to it, it was always something weird. And I was like, I want Amy
Anne (12m 50s):
More Amy.
Movies That Made Us Gay (12m 52s):
It was just my luck of the draw of changing the channels. Had I started on Drew, I probably would’ve been sucked into that. And not really into that.
Ashley (12m 59s):
You just happened to come in at the bad scenes every time.
Anne (13m 3s):
But
Movies That Made Us Gay (13m 3s):
It’s like, it was always a,
Anne (13m 4s):
But that’s what makes the movie good as an adult now. It’s like, oh, okay. This movie’s actually like attempting to look at all these sides of it.
Ashley (13m 12s):
That’s true.
Movies That Made Us Gay (13m 13s):
They were also trying to do something interesting with storytelling. With storytelling. Yes. I mean, you have to kinda give Andy Tenet, this is kind of a schlocky made for TV movie, but for the most part it’s pretty well put together. Yeah. Like you can kind tell that, oh, he’s gonna go on to have a successful filmmaking career because this movie has, well-directed scenes of it, of kind of when they jump timelines, you get the point of view from the car, you get the point of view from Mary, but Fuko on the stairs. So it cuts together kind of interesting.
Anne (13m 46s):
It
Ashley (13m 46s):
Does, yeah. It’s got an interesting chronological way of like how they tell this story. And then we have to shout out Andy Tenet because of course he came back and directed ever after five years later, which is, I can’t believe it’s only five years.
Anne (13m 59s):
That seems crazy.
Ashley (14m 1s):
But like, it must have been like two decades between those two.
Anne (14m 5s):
No. And do, do we know Ashley if, like, did Drew have anything to do with bringing Andy TenneT on?
Ashley (14m 12s):
I believe so. Yeah. I’m pretty sure she did. Yeah. It’s just like, why would she think of,
Anne (14m 17s):
It’s like such
Ashley (14m 18s):
Weirdly different projects.
Movies That Made Us Gay (14m 22s):
Gosh. So we kind of fell down the rabbit hole of just the whole scandal and Oh yeah, we were watching, I watched it, I watched the entire a and e special.
Ashley (14m 35s):
I started that one actually on YouTube today.
Anne (14m 37s):
Do
Movies That Made Us Gay (14m 38s):
Like true crime stuff. Yeah. I watched the whole special on the Amy Fisher Joey Fuco drama. Okay. So, so my hot take just real quick, is that just like, even if Amy never shot Mary Jo.
Anne (14m 56s):
Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (14m 57s):
Like they’re all pretty terrible, right? Even Mary Jo,
Ashley (15m 0s):
There’s no good side.
Movies That Made Us Gay (15m 3s):
I feel like Mary Jo’s kind of a piece of work. Yeah. Like I, I know she’s, she’s definitely a victim. She did not deserve to be, you know, shot and put through all of that. And her body is, you know, I think the, I think the post Joey Bongo marriage Mary is maybe a little more reflective. I like all of those interviews when she would go on Oprah of like after she divorced him.
Ashley (15m 25s):
You gotta tell us about those. ’cause I’m not that versed in that part.
Anne (15m 30s):
I forgot how many elements of this there are that the mom is weird. That Mary Jo is weird. Like every character is weird. Yeah. So, so tell me more about the like Oprah Mary Jo stuff. ’cause I haven’t seen it.
Movies That Made Us Gay (15m 43s):
So, okay. So the order of the events goes Amy Fisher gets out of jail in 99. She writes her tell all book, like The Inevitable Tell All book that she ends up going on Oprah to promote probably around oh three, I think. And it’s kind of interesting, you can tell that Oprah’s sympathetic to Amy just kind of ’cause clearly like Joey Buttafuoco kind of like took advantage of this sport.
Ashley (16m 12s):
Absolutely. Yeah, definitely.
Movies That Made Us Gay (16m 14s):
So when Oprah starts talking to her about shooting Mary Jo, you can tell that there’s something about the story that Oprah’s not buying that I think that Amy says that she was kind of meaning to hit Mary with the gun and it went off. It
Anne (16m 28s):
Went off,
Ashley (16m 28s):
Right. Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (16m 30s):
But she pretty much said that she went over to kill her. Yeah. So Oprah’s kind of calling her out on which one was it? Inconsistencies of of that. You can tell that Oprah’s a little like impatient with this, with Amy. And then Mary is watching the show and she’s upset and she calls Oprah’s people and wants to go on
Ashley (16m 51s):
What like
Movies That Made Us Gay (16m 53s):
Yeah, like, I’m like, of course you wanna go on Oprah. Yeah, of course you wanna go on Oprah, but Mary wants, here’s my side of the story. Yeah, yeah. I don’t know how she got in touch with like Harpo studio, right. Mary Jo Butta Fuco. All right. Call us up. The name
Ashley (17m 7s):
Will will carry you through. Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (17m 10s):
Kind of the flippant way that Amy was talking about. I didn’t really mean to shoot her that a, that still to this day that Mary Buttafuoco doesn’t buy. Yeah,
Ashley (17m 20s):
I, I don’t know if I buy that either. Yeah. But I definitely think she was, you know, taken advantage of and treated mercilessly by the media, which I like that this version of the movie gets into that. Right.
Movies That Made Us Gay (17m 33s):
Before kind of my big introduction to all of this is that I was a small child when all of this happened. I remember passing references to Amy Fisher when I was a kid. I think that there’s a joke in Adam’s family Values about Amy Fisher. Oh wow. Talking about the psychos, like trading cards when they’re at summer camp. That’s right. One Fisher. So that’s kind of was my main reference for all of this. And then I remember reading the introduction to the screenplay of American Beauty by Alan Ball, and Alan Ball talks about, and his introduction of that, the Amy Fisher, Joey Buttafuoco drama was a big inspiration for writing the script for American Beauty.
Ashley (18m 17s):
Wow. But that’s interesting. That’s
Movies That Made Us Gay (18m 19s):
Sort of the idea is that clearly these are, this is a wild story that the public will ev will never really know the true truth of. And that he kind of wanted to write something kind of like that. And when you look at kind of the bare bones of a script, like American Beauty, you have like the Long Island low lead type I guess. So you have kind of this guy like crisis. Yeah. You get an attempted murder at the end of the movie. I mean, Lester dies at the end of American Beauty. And in the original cut of American Beauty, it would go between Ricky and Janie in jail. Like on trial for Lester’s murder. Like that was the original cut of America.
Movies That Made Us Gay (18m 59s):
Whoa. And then Sam Mendez just kind of rehauled it and post that. It just kind of became something a little different. And I take it that probably the events of something like American Beauty would explode. Like the events that Yeah. Yeah. That it would become like a big tabloid scandal of this man that ends up dead and there’s like an underage girl in his house and maybe done by his daughter’s boyfriend. But yeah, just kind of interesting. That was kind of my main introduction to all of the story. And then when I first started going out with Pete, I think that Pete would just have, I’ve just always been obsessed with it. He’s always just with it too.
Movies That Made Us Gay (19m 39s):
So the three movies, I mean Alyssa and Drew battling it out on the same night on two major networks, Drew actresses whose careers have always kind of Yes.
Ashley (19m 48s):
Yeah. Strange little parallels. The Poison, Ivys
Movies That Made Us Gay (19m 53s):
Child actor Drew did movies and Alyssa did TV and they both kind of had the Wild Girl phase in the early nineties. Yeah. So we found an Esquire article from 2016. Yeah. And it talks about casting Drew in this version. Oh, let’s
Ashley (20m 13s):
Hear.
Movies That Made Us Gay (20m 14s):
Calling it casting a still controversial, still jail bait, Drew Barrymore to play. Fisher is a move straight out of the John Waters playbook and she owns the role.
Ashley (20m 24s):
Love that. When I was younger, I didn’t necessarily look at this time in Drew’s career and be like, Ooh, she is really young and being really treated sexually in the media. But now that I’m older, I do. And so it’s kind of weird to be like, I’m feeling for Amy Fisher being 16, 17 taken advantage as 17-year-old Drew is doing these scenes with this older man. It’s kind of weird
Movies That Made Us Gay (20m 47s):
Body double. I hope that that was a body double because that sexy
Ashley (20m 50s):
Well, we have some info on that. I’ll just jump to that. What happened was she did the love scene. She was clothed. It’s like ten second song. Then they did a scene with the body double and then they released that on video calling it like the uncensored version that couldn’t be seen on tv. And Drew was really upset. I have her quote here. So she said, America thinking that I’m letting this man go down on me makes me wanna vomit. I wish these people would get hit over the head with the two by 4 55 times until they understand what they did was wrong.
Movies That Made Us Gay (21m 26s):
I’m like, okay. So what we saw did not air on A, B, C.
Ashley (21m 28s):
Correct. Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (21m 29s):
This is from the vhs, a VHS pull. Then
Ashley (21m 32s):
Those scenes, the ones, those shots,
Movies That Made Us Gay (21m 36s):
It makes a lot
Anne (21m 36s):
More sense. They were kind of gratuitous and I like almost forgot about them. And then I was like, that’s not Drew’s boob.
Ashley (21m 41s):
Yeah. And it wasn’t a, it wasn’t the wig either, I noticed right away. That’s not that shitty wig. Yeah.
Anne (21m 47s):
It was just to add some spice.
Ashley (21m 50s):
Yeah. And I can understand like, that’s not what she signed up for that that wasn’t what she agreed to film. Like Oy crazy. Yeah. And she’s 17.
Movies That Made Us Gay (21m 59s):
Yeah. She, I mean granted kind of, it’s, it’s topical and it’s a little bit not controversial, but I don’t know she understands that yes, this is The Amy Fisher Story. But she also knows that this is a made for television movie. This is running on primetime on a major network. So no, I don’t have to take my clothes off. And so Yeah. Yeah, I can imagine to see the, you know, the Unrated version on VHS and just like, what in the hell.
Ashley (22m 26s):
Yeah. Especially when they’re like advertising it as like, woo, come see Drew Barrymore. Like, you didn’t see her before.
Movies That Made Us Gay (22m 33s):
So, okay, so I forgot about the accent. Work in this mood finance in, now listen, she, you know, not for nothing. Sh Emmy nominated for Gray Gardens.
Ashley (22m 49s):
Yeah. Yes. Yes. She didn’t win that one, but nominated. Yes.
Movies That Made Us Gay (22m 53s):
Didn’t win that one. She got
Ashley (22m 54s):
The Golden Globe.
Movies That Made Us Gay (22m 55s):
Got got the Globe. And what Martha’s Vineyard is adjacent to Long Island. Right.
Ashley (23m 3s):
Anne, you’re the closest to the East Coast. Let us know.
Anne (23m 6s):
I don’t think that it’s good.
Movies That Made Us Gay (23m 10s):
I mean, I mean she’s going forth though. She’s making choices.
Ashley (23m 14s):
I remember Anne, if you remember Justine and Mel talking about this in one of the, I think it was Celebrity profile, her friends. And Justine just says that is a gnarly accent. I always remember that.
Anne (23m 28s):
I, I guess I can’t necessarily speak to its accuracy, but I feel like what I kept thinking is that it sounds like Drew is talking through her teeth.
Movies That Made Us Gay (23m 38s):
Sure. Yeah.
Ashley (23m 39s):
Okay. So we have a clip of her in 1993 on the very first episode of late Night with Conan and talking about her performance here,
6 (23m 50s):
You of the three Amy fishers. I think yours was by far the best.
7 (23m 54s):
Right. Thank you. No, it was very
6 (24m 1s):
Funny. It was cool. Now I gotta ask you, did you, A lot of actors, when they’re preparing for a role like that with a, a killer or a Murderer, they actually go and meet the person in prison. Did you do that? Because I know,
8 (24m 12s):
Well, let me tell you a little something about Amy. I didn’t get to meet her actually because she was, you know, going through all her court things and being arraigned at the time of the shooting. And it was very nerve wracking to be portraying somebody who was living in the media as we were shooting and Right. You know, trying to pull off the accent and do the whole thing and like, you know, understand everything and sort of come to terms with why she did the thing she did to have the sincerity to play her. But it was, I had to do it. I had to live out that humor I felt for this girl. Right. You
6 (24m 45s):
Know? So you, you didn’t meet with her, you didn’t talk to her, you just studied tapes
8 (24m 49s):
Or I just, I would listen to her voice over and over and over again.
Movies That Made Us Gay (24m 58s):
That was the first episode of Conan.
Ashley (24m 59s):
Very first one. Yes. Yep.
Movies That Made Us Gay (25m 1s):
Wild.
Ashley (25m 3s):
Isn’t that cool?
Movies That Made Us Gay (25m 5s):
I did not know that she was one of his first guests and, you know, putting yourself in Drew’s in Drew’s shoes and like in Drew’s position in the early nineties, it’s just like, what do you have to lose? Yeah.
Ashley (25m 15s):
Oh yeah. She,
Anne (25m 17s):
She wanted to shed this like little girl thing. She wanted to be like, I’m an adult
Movies That Made Us Gay (25m 22s):
Getting opera role. Like Amy Fisher. It’s just, I mean, especially at a time where I think that Drew was, I mean, I think that she was kind of lucky to be getting offers. Like I think that hair was really at a rock bottom and I mean, fuck yeah, I’m gonna do the Amy Fisher made for TV movie.
Ashley (25m 39s):
Yeah. She said she loved the character. Amy was the rarest one for me. Whereas Ivy and Poison Ivy, which I know you guys watched today, was something I created. Amy was an imitation. I was having to do scenes where the entire nation had seen her say these exact words. And then she also said like, it was just such a great challenge imitating a real person and it had to be just right. So that was another reason. She was like, I gotta do this. And it was just like, yeah, like you said, obvious. Like she’s, she has to do this.
Movies That Made Us Gay (26m 8s):
Yeah. Well, you know, we were, as we’re watching it, there’s this scene where there is that kind of surveillance video footage Yeah. About that when that guy sells her out.
Ashley (26m 20s):
Yes. That piece of shit.
Movies That Made Us Gay (26m 22s):
Yeah. And so that’s probably a tape that was on the news, probably verbatim. Probably not. I
Ashley (26m 29s):
Looked for it today actually. I wanted to see if it was that close, but I couldn’t find it. Oh,
Movies That Made Us Gay (26m 33s):
They probably knew that they couldn’t change the dialogue too much because it’s gonna be pretty closely examined. Yeah. Probably had to stick to whatever she said,
Anne (26m 42s):
Which is interesting.
Ashley (26m 44s):
And also like Drew has, so we’ll just kind of give you like a little more background as to what was going on. So she, this is when she was dating, you guys are gonna like this poll. Jamie Walters
Movies That Made Us Gay (26m 54s):
From The Heights
Ashley (26m 55s):
From The Heights and 9 0 2 1 oh Donna Martin’s abusive boyfriend. And they were engaged, of course she’s 17, but they’re engaged. And while they were in Vancouver filming this in late 1992, he broke up with her three days before she was supposed to come back by phone. And she begged him to wait. And when she got back he had moved out of their apartment and this was like a dark time for her anyway, playing Amy. And then this happened on top of that.
Movies That Made Us Gay (27m 22s):
Oh my gosh. Yeah,
Ashley (27m 24s):
She was really broken up by it.
Anne (27m 26s):
Yeah. We had a like a bunch of articles around this time that we were reading and she was just like, I’m so heartbroken, I’m so like, I can’t imagine like, wow. And she’s like, yeah, like 17.
Ashley (27m 36s):
Yeah. Like, it’s
Anne (27m 38s):
Crazy.
Movies That Made Us Gay (27m 39s):
That’s wild. That is. That’s absolutely wild.
Ashley (27m 42s):
We also have a clip of her on, I know you guys love the Rosie O’Donnell show, so we’ve been talking about this on the pod. Rosie’s slowly putting all the episodes on her YouTube. They’re
Movies That Made Us Gay (27m 53s):
All on our YouTube.
Ashley (27m 54s):
Oh my God. So I’ve been waiting for this one. This is from 1999 from April. And this was like my favorite one. I like watching it again now I knew the whole thing by heart because I used to watch Oh my God, on my tape.
Movies That Made Us Gay (28m 6s):
No, I think, I’m sure that I’ve seen this interview. I think I, I probably watched this live. You
Ashley (28m 11s):
Probably did. You might remember the Play-Doh desk. That was like the thing from this one that I always remember. But sh I, as I was watching it, I was like, wait, she’s about to talk about Amy Fisher. I remember this. And so I was like, perfect, we’re gonna throw this in here.
8 (28m 27s):
Yeah. When I was playing Amy Fisher, that was really hard. Yeah. I was in Vancouver, I was all alone. I was playing like, you know, a psycho slut. It was insane.
9 (28m 38s):
A murdering psycho slut. I know. Yeah. She’s getting outta jail, you know? Is she, Mary Jo supposedly forgives her right now. She’s getting outta jail.
8 (28m 45s):
Well that’s full circle. It
9 (28m 47s):
Sure is, isn’t it?
Ashley (28m 48s):
Yeah. That’s nice. Oh, that’s a whole, oh my God,
Anne (28m 51s):
She’s so cute.
Ashley (28m 52s):
Oh, I love that episode so much.
Movies That Made Us Gay (28m 54s):
Wow. Wow. She would’ve been doing Preston never been Kissed. If it was April of 99, then yeah.
Ashley (28m 58s):
Look at. Correct. See, this is why you have my heart Scott. That is like, me too. A I am that person all the time.
Movies That Made Us Gay (29m 8s):
I love that. I also love that Z is just like, oh sure. She’s getting outta jail first. I’ve heard of it. Yeah. Keeping up with Amy just finds out about it all on the show. Yep.
Ashley (29m 18s):
She’s like, gotta gotta move on with my life not holding onto that Amy Fisher stuff
Movies That Made Us Gay (29m 24s):
With Mary Fuko. Like Yeah, that’s real. Is that she kind of like, she made these statements that she forgives Amy that clearly she was like taken advantage of and I mean,
Ashley (29m 34s):
You guys seem to know more. Did Mary Jo like finally admit that the relationship had happened between Amy and Joey?
Movies That Made Us Gay (29m 41s):
I, I think she, yeah, I think she does because he was, he wanna go to jail suspended afterwards for statutory rape and got like seven months or something.
Ashley (29m 50s):
Oh my God.
Movies That Made Us Gay (29m 51s):
Yeah. But I think that the age of consent in New York was 17. Okay. So, and I think she was like months away from her 17th birthday. So it was a whole thing of just like, well, you know, how different was she in the like 50 days? My God. Before she was like a consenting adult and blah, blah, blah, all this like garbage nonsense. And he gets like seven months. Right. And I think it was for like one count or something. Yeah. But she stuck with him through all of that. And I think, I think in the end she was just like, yes, he did. You know, he did cheat on me, did have this affair, whatever. But I, you know what’s interesting about this version because of, you know, with the three and all that is that The Amy Fisher Story is like, he was handsome.
Movies That Made Us Gay (30m 40s):
He was charming. He lured me in and yes, he pushed me into this world of prostitution. Yeah. Right. The the Alyssa version is like, I don’t know her, it’s like the but Fuco endorsed one. Right. Right.
Ashley (30m 55s):
And it’s,
Movies That Made Us Gay (30m 57s):
I don’t know her, who is she though? She’s just, why are you so obsessed with me? She, she keeps showing up to the top Yeah. About this damn car. Yeah. But then, but then this one is just like, yes, she has a pager. Yes. She’s turning tricks. Maybe Joey’s aware of it, but not fully involved in that. Yeah.
Ashley (31m 15s):
They left that kind of vague. Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (31m 16s):
They left that very vague. And so, but they were fully explicit in that yes, he was seeing her, but kind of like not really su super into it. I guess like the her and the tricks thing seems like that was on her in this version. I think so. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He
Ashley (31m 31s):
Like mentions later that Joey got her into it, but they never show it. Right. Yeah. Right.
Movies That Made Us Gay (31m 36s):
IJI just love how everybody was so outraged that she had a pager. I
Ashley (31m 40s):
Know. That was one of my notes, the quote a beeper. Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (31m 45s):
I dunno if you watched the real world. It’s just like, why do you have a beeper? Do you still really
Ashley (31m 48s):
Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, I totally remember that. That was a big deal. I’m right in between you guys age-wise, so I get all the references.
Movies That Made Us Gay (31m 58s):
Yeah. That was real world season one. That was an old one, but I mean, I had a, I was in high school when people had pagers and Yeah, me too. Yeah. So that was to to to, you know, to me and to listeners already just, just like, why would you be so outraged by it? But I guess at that point in 91 or 92, it
Ashley (32m 17s):
Was too early for somebody that age to have a beeper. No one was beeping. I love you with the like numbers or boobs or
Movies That Made Us Gay (32m 28s):
Yeah, absolutely. A I found it very interesting that this was kind of the split down the middle of who’s kind of side, you know, more objective I guess. Yeah. And you get the tabloid journalist angle from the post,
Ashley (32m 57s):
Which I appreciated. That’s one of my notes is that I appreciate that she’s like kind of saying some of the things that maybe a lot of people weren’t saying back then about like, Hey, this is a teenage girl. Like, why are we,
Anne (33m 9s):
It’s kind of a feminist perspective from that journalist. Like it’s, it’s, it’s kind of cool for, I mean, even when you think about like sex work potentially being like Amy’s own idea. Like, hey, that’s kind of feminist. If
Ashley (33m 21s):
We’re like, coming from the people, why is this becoming like, why is she getting vilified? Right? Yeah.
Anne (33m 26s):
So it’s kind of like, oh, interesting. Like what, yeah. If, if there was an Amy endorsed version, do we think it would be this one? Would she be on board with, you know, being like,
10 (33m 37s):
Talking about Joey? I love talking about
Anne (33m 40s):
Joey. I love that part.
Movies That Made Us Gay (33m 44s):
We just talk about Joey. But Fuco, it’s just like, if you’re really gonna risk at all, are you gonna be doing it for this one Joey Fuco? Oh my
Ashley (33m 51s):
God,
Movies That Made Us Gay (33m 52s):
I don’t know. As
Ashley (33m 52s):
Soon as he comes on the screen and I feel like this guy’s pretty accurate to the real one. I was just like, puke. Like, I can’t, this guy makes me sick. Like, and he’s just flirting with her.
Movies That Made Us Gay (34m 3s):
There’s not any other like, long Island guys in the, in the body chop.
Anne (34m 8s):
I mean like tight, tight T-shirt and like this kind of empty hammer pants. Yep. Yeah. I mean, I don’t know, it kind of got me a little, I’m no, absolutely not. Absolutely not. But I feel like at that time he might have just been so slick.
Ashley (34m 29s):
Yeah, I I mean it could have been a charm thing. Yeah.
Anne (34m 32s):
Good place. And
Movies That Made Us Gay (34m 33s):
It’s time and place too, because it’s the car that she was Dr I forget what kind of car it was, but it’s, you know, it’s a very like Jersey shore, I feel like Long Islands, you know, the Jersey Shore, all that. It’s a, it’s a specific regional thing that, you know, people who look a certain way and they’ve lived a very comfortable middle class life in Long Island. And that was just something that Amy probably just aspired to. Like, she really saw herself living the rest of her life with Joey.
Ashley (35m 0s):
Yeah. I did appreciate like the kind of scene where she goes to her friend’s house and they give her dinner and you can tell she’s just like, this is like what I need in my life. And her, oh my God. The scene where her on Christmas morning and her mom’s like folding all the wrapping paper from the presents to reuse them. Oh my.
Anne (35m 16s):
I’m like, that’s such a cool
Ashley (35m 17s):
Little touch.
Anne (35m 18s):
But I like that touch.
Movies That Made Us Gay (35m 20s):
I was gonna say, the Christmas morning scene was also giving us a little female trouble. That was very John Waters not on Christmas. Dawn, she was gonna knock the tree down on top of her mom and just like stomp on all the presents.
Ashley (35m 33s):
She was just like sitting there. I kept waiting for something to happen too. So all of her little blowups, like, especially at the beginning, I was like, she’s, she looks like such a babe. But she is such a freaking bratt the way she was acting towards her parents. And, and then I was like, this is how Drew was to her mom when she was like 12, 13. And I was really wondering if she pulled some of that. Like, this is how she would act to her mom in real life. Which is so wild to think about. Probably like slamming doors. Like get, you’re not allowed to come in the house. Like she really told her mom what to do at one,
Anne (36m 9s):
But I think that was like, wasn’t she really high too?
Ashley (36m 12s):
Yeah. Or she was pissed that her mom was keeping her from going and getting high. Yeah. But yeah, I thought that was interesting to think about. And then I have, we have a picture of one of the script pages ’cause I’m sure you guys notice how much she plays with her hair in the movie Her amazing wig. Yeah. And in the script it said it called for that and it said it’s as if her hair was an extension of her personality. I thought that
Anne (36m 37s):
Was fun. I did notice actually that the way she was playing with her hair felt like a character thing, not Drew.
Ashley (36m 42s):
Yeah. It’s not the way Drew Drew plays with her hair a lot because
Anne (36m 44s):
There’s a part where she was like putting her hair in a ponytail and she kind of did like a thing and I was like, yes. That, that feels so specific. Yeah. For some
Ashley (36m 52s):
Reason’s. Especially because she does play with her hair all the time. It was like totally different than how she Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (36m 57s):
Right, right. She, she’s going down the very like Eileen Waro, like sure. Glaring out. But I think, you know, there’s those famous shots of when they arrested Amy and she’s in the cutoff jeans and she’s, and she’s coming out the white T-shirt and the white T-shirt and her hair is down over covering her face. And so I think that that I, to me it was like, okay, she, she’s young, she’s a kid. She uses her hair in this famous shot to, you know, to, to shield her face from the cameras. So let’s take that and extrapolate Yeah. And like run with it and it’s awesome. Love that as the character. Yeah. And there’s, okay, there’s two scenes where she goes to confront Mary Jo at the door.
Movies That Made Us Gay (37m 42s):
At the door. There’s the first one where she’s selling candy. Yes. That shot the hair is wild. Yeah. It’s
Ashley (37m 50s):
Is that when she has like under like that with the hat?
Movies That Made Us Gay (37m 53s):
No, that’s,
Ashley (37m 53s):
That’s when she shoots her.
Anne (37m 56s):
It’s like, it’s like rizzi.
Movies That Made Us Gay (37m 58s):
It’s frizzy, it’s down, it’s completely down. And it’s just completely like, it looks like Amy is like, I don’t know, picture day or going to the glamor shots. She’s like, this is her ready to like show the world. And I didn’t remember to me in my head like, I don’t know how, I don’t remember how the events went down and we didn’t watch either versions, but I remembered the whole like selling candy angle and I thought that was when she shot her. So Yeah, I don’t, because like when that scene came up I’m like, oh shit. Like we’re already here. Yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I was watching a, a news story and they were interviewing that Filipino kid.
Movies That Made Us Gay (38m 40s):
Oh. And he was kind getaway driver. He was kind of reflecting back on it of just like, I don’t know, it’s just like I couldn’t get a clear shot. I’m just not doing it.
Ashley (38m 49s):
That’s why’s the reason
Movies That Made Us Gay (38m 52s):
Back on. Yeah. Helping Amy and he’s just like, I can’t even get a clear shot. It’s like all these, this is whack. I’m not doing it. But all these people in her life just doing these things just ’cause she’s like, just do it. Like, I need a gun. Okay. What, like
Anne (39m 5s):
Who are, I think it’s like, is it like pretty girl treatment or am I putting that on her because it’s Drew like, I don’t know. I mean master manipulator maybe. I don’t know.
Movies That Made Us Gay (39m 15s):
Yeah. Yeah.
Ashley (39m 16s):
That’s how she’s portrayed right? In the media.
Movies That Made Us Gay (39m 19s):
Yeah. Yeah. But but again, like the, the way the media portrayed her was just like so wild at the time. So who knows exactly. Like what Yeah. The real stories. But the real Amy, these interviews are so kind of all over the place. I mean granted the Oprah one was 25 years ago, so it’s like, who knows? But she does seem like, yeah, maybe there is some sort of like, I don’t know, what would you sociopath kind of tendencies there where she Yeah. Manipulating people.
Ashley (39m 50s):
I did like notice when I was watching some of the videos of her back in that time, like she has sort of a vacancy in her face that I felt like Drew captured. Like Drew does not have her normal sparkle in this movie at all. Like she really, no,
Anne (40m 4s):
There are a couple scenes where I feel like I’m like, oh this is really cute. Like there’s like a post sec, the post sex scene where she’s like,
Ashley (40m 10s):
That’s true, you’re
Anne (40m 11s):
Right. And like that looks like Drew. Like it’s, but most of it’s her smile. I know, but most of it, it really doesn’t feel like her,
Ashley (40m 17s):
Which is cool. It’s kind of fun to like have something so outta the box like that. For her
Movies That Made Us Gay (40m 22s):
It was fun today to, to double feature them that we watched The Amy Fisher Story last night. And then I watched Poison Ivy this morning ’cause it had been a while since I watched it. So I, yeah, I sat down and had my morning cup of coffee and I watched all of Poison Ivy
Ashley (40m 34s):
As you do.
Movies That Made Us Gay (40m 37s):
It’s kind of really interesting to see her do these two rolls back to back. Oh yeah. And I forget how good she is in Poison Ivy. Yeah. It’s kind of how really she just really knew that character and that you’ve never really, you’re always kind of on Ivy’s side oddly through
Anne (40m 55s):
Yeah.
Ashley (40m 56s):
Yeah. ’cause she’s so charismatic or something.
Movies That Made Us Gay (40m 58s):
She’s so charismatic and she worked so well with Sarah and you can really tell in that movie that like, this movie was made by a woman. Yeah. Like I, if Poison I do is handed off to like a man, it probably turns a little even more Bemo. Schlocky. Yeah. But it all works though.
Ashley (41m 14s):
I know. It’s so it’s gonna be fun when we finally cover that one, but we’ll have a lot to say. I mean
Anne (41m 18s):
Is isn’t it kind of insane to think like, okay, so this is like Drew Barrymore under 20 playing these like very mature, sexy roles and then the person Drew Barrymore doesn’t even think of herself as like sexy. She’s like, I am just playing a role. Like that’s not me. I get to like pretend I’m that person. And then you look at her and it’s like she knows exactly what she’s doing. You know, like, I dunno. But it’s, it’s amazing to think like, I don’t know, just looking at the person and who she’s portraying and just how like charged she is as those characters. I don’t know how powerful. Yeah. And then it’s like, it’s just this person who thinks she’s a dork. It’s like, what?
Movies That Made Us Gay (41m 58s):
Yeah. I think we might have to pull a triple feature and, and finally finish Doppelganger. Oh, oh, oh my
Ashley (42m 6s):
God. Is it gonna be gun crazy or doppelganger? Those are the other, like from this era doppelganger. Have you guys ever seen it all the way through?
Movies That Made Us Gay (42m 13s):
I have. I’ve seen bits and pieces of it. We live in the doppelganger neighborhood. Yeah. We’re very close to her. We’re very
Ashley (42m 18s):
Close to the apartments.
Movies That Made Us Gay (42m 20s):
We’re about like less than 10 minutes away from it.
Ashley (42m 22s):
Yeah, that is, that is an interesting, Drew’s famous quote on that is, you’d rather stick pins in your eyes than watch that movie.
Movies That Made Us Gay (42m 31s):
Yeah, I watched it on cable. I think it was made for cable and I just
Ashley (42m 37s):
Remember. Yeah, probably.
Movies That Made Us Gay (42m 38s):
Yeah. I just remember like, oh, George Newburn. I love him. He’s so cute. Oh, Drew. I love her. Of course I’m gonna watch this and then just, it’s very LA like there’s a lot of, like they go to this restaurant in MacArthur Park that’s kind of like a famous historic like old like deli diner situation. And, but yeah, the monster is insane. I know they’re trying to go for a very like Vertigo esque kind of situation.
Ashley (43m 4s):
It’s actually supposed to be inspired by breakfast at Tiffany’s. Can you guys believe that?
Movies That Made Us Gay (43m 9s):
Okay.
Ashley (43m 10s):
Alright. And you can, there’s little things where when you know that you’re like, okay. But it’s, I remember when I rented that movie when I was like, so it’d be like 99 when I’m getting into Drew and I have her IMDB printed and highlighting ’em as I go to Blockbuster. And then I must have returned it late. And I was there later with my mom and she’s like, what is this movie? We have a late fee gang evil gangs Doppelganger the Evil within. I’m like, oh, that was me.
Anne (43m 36s):
Evil gangs hold. I forgot. I just, my brain would couldn’t stop thinking about this picture. So I just had to Oh
Ashley (43m 44s):
Darling.
Movies That Made Us Gay (43m 48s):
Well look again with the long dark hair.
Ashley (43m 50s):
Yeah. It’s actually pretty similar in wig to Amy
Movies That Made Us Gay (43m 56s):
And Amy Fisher. You’re welcome. The real hair of Amy Fisher. I mean it’s that type of like mouse brown that like really dirty brown hair. Oh, well, I mean, not to like, like judge hair color, but you know, it’s just that it’s,
Anne (44m 11s):
But not to judge hair colors, but dirty mousey brown. But
Ashley (44m 16s):
They went likey red in the wig. Yeah. There’s like red tones for sure.
Movies That Made Us Gay (44m 22s):
Well I also love the very early nineties kind of makeup styling that brick red Yeah. That she has. And also in doppelganger, I think too, she’s got a very dark red,
Ashley (44m 34s):
A lot of dark lips in the early nineties. I loved all of her wardrobe in this movie. I was like really feeling it
Anne (44m 41s):
Like
Ashley (44m 42s):
Bodysuits and like it was early nineties in an accurate way. Not like in a way you would try to make something look early nineties now. Right?
Anne (44m 51s):
Well
Movies That Made Us Gay (44m 52s):
A fast turnaround of all three of these movies is just Yes.
Ashley (44m 56s):
Mind blowing. It came out January 93. Like January 3rd.
Movies That Made Us Gay (44m 60s):
Yeah. Well
Anne (45m 1s):
That’s
Movies That Made Us Gay (45m 1s):
What Drew was, I think. Was she saying it to to to to Conan of just like, no, I didn’t go to meet her because like, there was no time happening in real time.
Anne (45m 10s):
She literally was in court when we were filming. Mary
Movies That Made Us Gay (45m 14s):
Was shot in May of 92 and the movie came out in January.
Ashley (45m 17s):
Yeah. That’s wild. Right.
Anne (45m 18s):
Well
Movies That Made Us Gay (45m 19s):
First of all Mary Jo, but Fico, I mean regardless of my feelings or anyone’s feelings about her, but this woman is like unsinkable. She gets shot in the head. Yeah. I, and she’s on the courthouse steps giving these interviews. Yes. Grant, she has nerve damage. She has, you know, hearing loss. Her face is partially paralyzed. But this woman is out there and she’s telling her truth. She’s ready for a press conference telling
Ashley (45m 48s):
Her truth. Fiercely too.
Anne (45m 50s):
But fiercely protecting Joey. Well, you know, it’s just like that part me, which is like, okay, okay, is he worth it? Is he worth it? Mary?
Movies That Made Us Gay (46m 1s):
The is we have to, we can’t defend but her,
Anne (46m 4s):
Her
Movies That Made Us Gay (46m 5s):
Conviction to all. To all of it. Yeah. Truly. And just like, like I said, shot in the head, nearly paralyzed, nearly dead. She’s worked on for hours and hours and hours. And like the next day is just like, it was that girl, it was that Fisher girl. You know, you’re just, wow. How, how does this woman just like still out there?
Anne (46m 26s):
Oh my God. Speaking of Drew being beautiful, which is always my input there. The scene when she like is on the lineup and she has to point her out. I was like, oh, Drew looks so pretty. Yeah, there’s a
Ashley (46m 37s):
Lot. I was like, Amy, Amy’s cute, whatever. But Drew’s like really pretty of this. I’m like, she’s a little more pretty than Amy.
Anne (46m 44s):
That’s thing
Movies That Made Us Gay (46m 45s):
Because they got this, what was her name of the, the, the, my story. Noelle.
Ashley (46m 49s):
Noelle Parker.
Movies That Made Us Gay (46m 50s):
No, Parker. And she looks the most like, yeah,
Ashley (46m 54s):
I agree.
Movies That Made Us Gay (46m 55s):
And then you get Alyssa Milano who launched Ariel like straight boy. Like every straight Gen X guy on earth is just like Alyssa Milano first crush right up there. And, and Drew just like this face. Right. They, they got the two of the prettiest, like pretty, they’re just, the both of them are just pretty, like there’s no other way.
Ashley (47m 22s):
You can’t hide it.
Movies That Made Us Gay (47m 23s):
Yeah. I dunno a lot about television life rights when you’re involved in something like this that, like was she just given a, just we want to use your story. Here’s a lot of money. Or were they tied to particular movies? Like, like I don’t know how that works.
Anne (47m 40s):
That’s like interesting. I actually don’t even know like TV
Movies That Made Us Gay (47m 43s):
Rights. I don’t know
Anne (47m 44s):
To have three things. They must have like, you know, they all paid a lot. Yeah. Or it was some batch
Ashley (47m 51s):
Deal.
Movies That Made Us Gay (47m 54s):
Unofficial. And I think the thing with life rights, like you’re saying Scott, like this isn’t like a Janie Glin Janis Johnson situation. Yeah. Because they didn’t put out any sort of product. We’re not licensing any, they have licensed previously. This is just all in the public. I mean, is it pretty much just ABC just saying, we wanna make a story of all these events, here’s a track. I think so. Yeah.
Anne (48m 18s):
Probably. I
Movies That Made Us Gay (48m 19s):
Mean, she would, so she would’ve had to have been paid by three networks then I, I guess
Ashley (48m 24s):
Rent and especially at that time, like who knows how those things worked. I, it’s probably totally different now.
Movies That Made Us Gay (48m 29s):
Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. But I think we’re really lucky with this because of the three with a story, because of the three different perspectives. But with this movie in particular, I just think that Drew is in such a unique period of her career and her life and, and all that. And and like we said, it’s just a few years later, like Wayne’s World is like,
Ashley (48m 53s):
Oh that’s like a second later. Yeah. Same year as this. It came out the same year.
Anne (48m 58s):
Yeah. And I
Movies That Made Us Gay (48m 59s):
Remember as a kid just say,
Anne (48m 60s):
It’s so weird. Look.
Movies That Made Us Gay (49m 1s):
And she looks so, and she’s gets to be Dr. I mean she’s B and Rigan, but she gets to be Drew.
Anne (49m 7s):
She, yeah,
Ashley (49m 8s):
She’s bubbly. So pretty in that scene.
Anne (49m 10s):
Yeah.
Ashley (49m 12s):
I love 93 Drew. She’s like especially gorgeous to
Anne (49m 15s):
Me.
Movies That Made Us Gay (49m 16s):
Yeah. It’s like all, I was a perfect age for Wayne’s World and I remember all my guy friends were just like, Drew Barrymore. Like she’s so pretty. Like they just loved her and Yeah. All my, all my straight guy friends, like to this day like still quote like oh B and Kegan and all that good stuff. But
Ashley (49m 35s):
Are you guys ever gonna cover Wayne’s World? That’s one of the only movies from my childhood that I feel like you guys haven’t touched on.
Anne (49m 43s):
It didn’t make them gay.
Ashley (49m 44s):
Yeah. I’m like, does it count? I don’t know. I’ll
Movies That Made Us Gay (49m 46s):
Gladly be in a throuple or with in like aor relationship with all of the crew members. Oh, that’s true. We love the, we love we love the crew members of Wayne’s World. All the guys that shoot each, all, all those MBOs that all,
Ashley (49m 59s):
All the long-haired metal dudes.
Movies That Made Us Gay (50m 3s):
Yep. That’s, that’s
Ashley (50m 5s):
Close enough. Right? You guys could do episode
Anne (50m 8s):
Not
Movies That Made Us Gay (50m 8s):
Alone. That’s our angle right there. But I mean, and Carrera, I mean I can we could we’ll talk. Yeah.
Ashley (50m 12s):
All just planting a seed for you. ’cause I was like, every movie that mattered to me, I was like, oh no Wayne’s world.
Movies That Made Us Gay (50m 20s):
You know, we, I feel like, you know, ’cause it’s just randomly on television, you know, cable, whatever. It’s always on demand too. Yeah. And I feel like one day I was just watching it and Scott’s like, you just watching, you’re just watching Wayne’s World now. I think I came home from work one night and we just watched the whole thing and just laughed. I love it. Like yeah. It’s Wayne’s world. It’s funny.
Ashley (50m 54s):
All right, back to Amy. And we have a couple notes we wanna just touch on real quick. So Anna and I made the exact same note for our beginning of our notes, like almost verbatim.
Anne (51m 3s):
It’s actually really funny. I,
Ashley (51m 5s):
All I did was I was cracking up. I don’t know, are you guys familiar with Mad Love? Did you guys ever watch that one from 95? I remember
Movies That Made Us Gay (51m 11s):
Watching Mad Love with her and her and Chris O’Donnell. Chris O’Donnell.
Ashley (51m 13s):
Yeah. Yeah. It’s a Drewbie favorite. It touches a lot of people’s souls. But anyway, the opening scene of this movie where Amy’s in the hospital and and I both were like typing this looks just like the scene in Mad Love where she’s in the
Anne (51m 26s):
Hospital. Well and we both use the word reminiscent. Reminiscent
Ashley (51m 29s):
Because we share a brain. Apparently we had to mention that.
Anne (51m 33s):
Yeah. Because I literally, it was like it started and I was like, this really feels like mad love. And it’s weird to think it’s like only a couple years later. Yeah. Which is really strange.
Ashley (51m 42s):
Super weird.
Anne (51m 43s):
Very strange.
Ashley (51m 44s):
And then I also wanna mention all the like prop photos. We love when they Oh yeah. For movies when they take actual photos of the person in character. But it’s not just like a still from the movie. ’cause I hate that. Yeah. So I loved her school picture. I thought it was so cute. And then all of the newspapers, I was sitting there going like, oh, I wonder what happened to all these prop newspapers with Drew as Amy.
Anne (52m 6s):
We need them for the Drew zm, whoever has them.
Movies That Made Us Gay (52m 10s):
I’m sure that Andy, Andy has it in his office.
Anne (52m 12s):
Oh, there we go. We’ll reach right out to Andy and tell him if he wants to donate them, put us in his will for the Amy Fisher story. Prop newspapers please. I’m asking.
Ashley (52m 25s):
I tried to connect with him when we did our ever after episode, but he, I think I sent him a message. He never saw it. So we’ll keep trying.
Anne (52m 31s):
It’s funny how sometimes Instagram has been like amazing for us for connecting. Yeah. And sometimes it’s just people don’t know.
Ashley (52m 39s):
They don’t even see it.
Movies That Made Us Gay (52m 41s):
Yeah.
Ashley (52m 43s):
I’m always shooting my shot though
Movies That Made Us Gay (52m 46s):
Restrictions that it’s like, yes, what it was sent, but I don’t know, maybe did they receive it? I don’t know. Yeah. So that love though, I mean, so this is 95 and this is, you wanna talk about somebody launching a lot of ships? Chris O’Donnell? Yeah. With that Buzz cut ve been on our show.
Ashley (53m 4s):
Same, well Batman Forever, same summer. Like big time for both of them.
Anne (53m 9s):
I think he’s so boring. Sorry,
Movies That Made Us Gay (53m 14s):
He’s duller than like watching the paint dry. A hundred percent. But there’s a very, like there’s a meme that that just goes around on like gay Instagram and like gay Twitter of him in his robin suit saying like, you remember the moment you knew you were gay or like, oh my God. Amazing. The, the new version of it is drag queens reading a story aren’t gonna turn your kids gay, but Chris O’Donnell and Batman.
Ashley (53m 46s):
Absolutely will. That’s so good. Yeah. Yeah. Something about that buzz cut like that’s very, I like really, that’s like a very distinct memory for me. I think I had like a corn pops box where he was like on it as Robin and I cut it out. Oh my God, I’m having weird flash. But I
Anne (54m 2s):
Didn’t know you were such a, I
Ashley (54m 4s):
Wasn’t really but he was cute in that moment. Everybody was into him for a second.
Movies That Made Us Gay (54m 9s):
I, I think that he’s still kind of rocking the buzz cut too. You know, you find a look that works. Just stick
Ashley (54m 14s):
With, can’t blame him.
Anne (54m 17s):
He basically looks the same. He is just like, a little bit like wider.
Ashley (54m 22s):
Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (54m 23s):
It feel like his
Anne (54m 23s):
Face is rounder.
Ashley (54m 25s):
Aren’t we all? And I have to point out something to you to see if you notice this. Okay. I don’t know if you guys know Confessions of a Dangerous Mind as one of our underrated favorites, George Clooney’s directorial debut. The, there it, so when the, the gross guy from the gym sells the tape and she sees it on tv, she does this look, that’s exactly the look she does in Confessions. When she catches Chuck cheating, where she like does a sad little smile and looks down and looks away. I have to make a comparison. I
Anne (54m 57s):
Didn’t notice it. Yeah, you’re gonna have to make a comparison.
Ashley (54m 59s):
It’s crazy. It’s the same angle and everything on her. Anyway, I just had to point that out to Ann ’cause I was excited about it.
Anne (55m 7s):
Yeah, we love that shit. It’s
Movies That Made Us Gay (55m 9s):
A good, but it’s a good look because it’s that like, well, fuck me. I don’t know. You know what I mean? Yeah. You got me bitch.
Ashley (55m 15s):
Yeah. It’s not just like, oh, I’m sad. It’s like, oh God, are you kidding me? Yep.
Movies That Made Us Gay (55m 20s):
I know, but I know exactly the look that you’re talking about. ’cause I, I remember specifically going, all right, I like this choice. I like this choice of, of, of her reaction to just like, dammit. Like,
Ashley (55m 29s):
Yeah,
Movies That Made Us Gay (55m 31s):
Alright. It’s kind of too bad when I’m remembering Confessions of a Dangerous Mind that she didn’t get more critical attention for.
Ashley (55m 38s):
I know. I
Movies That Made Us Gay (55m 40s):
Remember watching an interview with Renee Zellweger, where she was on like a morning talk show or something, and she was just raving about Drew.
Ashley (55m 46s):
Really? Oh, that’s so cool.
Movies That Made Us Gay (55m 49s):
I love Confessions of A Dangerous Mind. Drew Barrymore. It’s one of my favorite performances of the year. But yeah,
Ashley (55m 56s):
I know she was that one’s, it’s one of my favorites. It’s just really, there’s a lot of range in it and yeah, I just, we, we love that movie
Anne (56m 4s):
And a lot of subtlety. Like, I feel like that the, like the way that she, the way that her character is, is very subtle. I don’t know. It’s, I don’t, it also is not very true in a lot of ways,
Ashley (56m 15s):
Which is always fun to see her just being different because
Anne (56m 19s):
I mean, we love her being her, obviously.
Ashley (56m 21s):
Like, I don’t want her to be like that person. Drew Barrymore, I don’t like now.
Movies That Made Us Gay (56m 27s):
Yeah. To me it was just like brown hair in, in riding with cars, with boys. I’m just like, what a change. Yeah.
Ashley (56m 35s):
That one is not a favorite of mine. I am on the record stating that.
Anne (56m 40s):
I feel like there was one podcast we did where you were like, it keeps coming up.
Ashley (56m 44s):
It really does. You were
Anne (56m 47s):
Like mad.
Movies That Made Us Gay (56m 48s):
The most interesting part of her doing the press tour for riding in Cars of Boys is, do you remember when she hosted SNL
Ashley (56m 55s):
Of for that course right after nine 11? It was right after
Movies That Made Us Gay (56m 58s):
Nine 11. And they were advised not to do the show, right? Yeah.
Ashley (57m 2s):
There was The Anthrax scare happen while they were doing rehearsals.
Movies That Made Us Gay (57m 6s):
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and, and if they wouldn’t have done that show, we wouldn’t have like the Wesley Arms hot tub scare. Yes. Be missing out. We
Ashley (57m 16s):
Were just talking about that one.
Movies That Made Us Gay (57m 19s):
Oh my goodness. Wow. Yeah. Iconic.
Ashley (57m 22s):
I love that you guys know that. Oh my God. Yep.
Movies That Made Us Gay (57m 26s):
We’re big SNL fans. I I’m an apologist for this show. I don’t buy into this like, well, I stopped watching on Yeah. This Grow Up. It’s,
Ashley (57m 36s):
That is such a thing. It hasn’t been good since blah, blah, blah. Yeah.
Anne (57m 40s):
It’s like, no, it’s there, there are phases, you know? Yeah. Of when it’s better and when it’s not. It’s like, but no, it’s not black and white. It’s not the old stuff.
Ashley (57m 48s):
There’s no cutoff line.
Anne (57m 50s):
I mean, when I was growing up though, we had a tape of like, I don’t know what anniversary it would’ve been, but we had a VHS tape recorded, I think it was like the 25th Saturday Night Live anniversary or something. And so I watched and re-watched a bunch of stuff from the seventies when I was a kid. I was not getting these jokes.
Movies That Made Us Gay (58m 7s):
Yeah.
Ashley (58m 8s):
I used to watch them too as a kid. They would show it before the new ssn l so they would show like a seventies episode. I don’t know where my parents ever were. I was just like, I’m gonna watch this adult. I was watching Tracy Oman show by myself at like six years old. Like, I don’t know what was happening.
Movies That Made Us Gay (58m 27s):
Old l after the new episode. They would, they would usually do an old one. Okay.
Ashley (58m 31s):
That’s a really late,
Movies That Made Us Gay (58m 32s):
Do you remember who from SNL did the Amy fixture? I, I was kind of wondering if they had anybody else besides her do it. I’m sure that back in like the early nineties, they had somebody beat Amy in a sketch. But it was a, I think that it was around when she got out of prison in 99 and it Sherry o Terry.
Ashley (58m 51s):
Ooh, that’s a choice.
Movies That Made Us Gay (58m 54s):
Amy Fisher with, with Colin Quinn.
Ashley (58m 56s):
How was her? Amy Fisher pretty good.
Movies That Made Us Gay (58m 58s):
Not really. She doesn’t really do the accent. Do that accent. Yeah. It’s a, it’s just like, oh, you’re, you’re outta jail now and what are you, you know what’s going on? And does a couple of things where she’s stable, but then she kinda like goes off and loses it. The
11 (59m 12s):
Long Island Lolita herself. Amy Fisher.
13 (59m 20s):
Thank you Colin. Wow. It is so great to be out. I mean, you don’t know how good it feels to finally put on my old cutoffs and see through Halter Top and stroll around the neighborhood like a regular person. I mean,
Movies That Made Us Gay (59m 36s):
Yeah, but we didn’t, we didn’t really do a deep dive into that. That one just kind of popped up in our YouTube, so
Anne (59m 42s):
That’s funny.
Movies That Made Us Gay (59m 43s):
Yeah. I, I, I don’t remember because I was definitely watching SNL at the time too. Like I, I’ve kind of watched my whole life. Yeah,
Ashley (59m 50s):
Same.
Movies That Made Us Gay (59m 50s):
So yeah. So I, I have vague memories of their being sketches, but I, I just can’t, can’t place them right now.
Ashley (59m 57s):
Now somebody else will be yelling at their radio about how we don’t know stuff.
Anne (1h 0m 3s):
We can’t research every facet.
Ashley (1h 0m 6s):
I can know everything about Drew, but,
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 0m 10s):
But I mean, Drew and I know like that five timers club, you know?
Ashley (1h 0m 15s):
Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 0m 16s):
How many women are in the five timers club? Not that many. So
Ashley (1h 0m 21s):
I know it’s been so long too. She hasn’t been on a host since 2009, which is just, wow. What’s going on? She’s in New York all the time now. Yeah,
Anne (1h 0m 30s):
They should have her come on.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 0m 32s):
Do you think that she’ll ever get back into making movies?
Ashley (1h 0m 36s):
Oh, that, oh, that reminds me. I have something to tell you guys. Okay, so just this week Ross Matthews was asking her, you know, what would it take to get you back? And she said that she really is talking to Adam Sandler about projects that they’ve been joking with Jennifer Aniston to do a threes company. But Drew said what she wants to do is death becomes her.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 1m 0s):
Oh my goodness. I mean this, this, this death becomes her remake that’s been going around the internet for the past like five years.
Ashley (1h 1m 7s):
But I’m, I’m here for it.
Anne (1h 1m 10s):
But I could, I could see it with Jennifer Aniston Drew and Adam, Adam Sandler Sandler, Adam Sandler. Like it kind of works.
Ashley (1h 1m 19s):
Is it, is this like sacrilegious?
Anne (1h 1m 23s):
No, but I love Death becomes her Me Too. Deeply. Deeply. Yeah. So I’m like, no, don’t do it. But I’m also like,
Ashley (1h 1m 30s):
Ooh, but
Anne (1h 1m 31s):
Hold on. But who’s gonna be the, is it Isabella Rosa? Mm.
Ashley (1h 1m 35s):
Right.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 1m 36s):
We, we need, yeah, so I mean, the big one that goes around on Twitter every couple of years is this image. And it’s been going around for years now. And every time it goes around, everybody jumps in the comments and they’re just like, why remake this? This is terrible. And the image is, it’s usually Anne Hathaway, Kate Hudson, Kate Hudson, and Lady Gaga. And Lady Gaga.
Ashley (1h 2m 0s):
I’m not seeing Anne Hathaway. I don’t get that one. I
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 2m 3s):
Can’t remember who’s the, who’s the, who’s the Bruce? Well, yeah, I can’t remember who’s, who’s Bruce in that one. But yeah, I guess Anne Hathaway would have to be Meryl Stre.
Ashley (1h 2m 14s):
I guess so. Because you gotta have Kate be Goldie, right? Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 2m 17s):
Kate Goldie. And then I’ve also been seeing this rumor, it’s even trickled up to people like Jessica Chastain saying that I saw something online that people think that we should do a Death Becomes Her remake. What do you think of that Anne Hathaway? So it’s even like the rumor has like where these huge a-list stars are starting to comment on it.
Anne (1h 2m 41s):
Interesting. I’m
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 2m 42s):
Drew and Jen Anniston are in. I’m in. Yeah. Yeah. Get outta here.
Ashley (1h 2m 47s):
Okay. Which part do we want Drew to play?
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 2m 50s):
That’s the question. I think that sh I think they would,
Anne (1h 2m 55s):
I kind of think she has to be the Goldie, but I Yeah,
Ashley (1h 2m 58s):
Yeah. That’s where I go.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 3m 0s):
I, yeah, I think so too. I think they would both be good in either, but I kinda like Jen Aniston as
Ashley (1h 3m 8s):
Madeline.
14 (1h 3m 10s):
I think that,
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 3m 10s):
I think that Jen and Aniston kind of has a more Meryl Streep. I think she as Madeline, I, I would like to see her do Madeline Ashton. Yeah. I, and I think Drew could definitely do Helen. And it’s like, it doesn’t have to be one for one. We don’t, don’t have to do food and we don’t, you know, it doesn’t have to be this like one for one remake. I, I think they could just do something new with these characters, but I don’t know. I like it.
Ashley (1h 3m 36s):
All right. You heard it here first.
14 (1h 3m 39s):
I’m mixed about it.
Ashley (1h 3m 42s):
We’ll all watch it. If it happens though. We’ll say that.
Anne (1h 3m 45s):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, when that came up I was like, Ooh. Like interesting
14 (1h 3m 53s):
Murder mystery.
Ashley (1h 3m 55s):
I haven’t watched that.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 3m 57s):
You watched Murder Mystery? I watched the first one. I didn’t watch the second one, but I thought it was, it was fun.
Ashley (1h 4m 1s):
Okay. Yeah. That’s how I feel like I’ll feel about it when I finally get around to it. Like, oh, it’s fun.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 4m 7s):
You know, Scott And I always say like, what’s your favorite like Adam Sandler movie And it’s like, obviously it’s the, the Drew collaborations. Yeah. Yeah. And I just, I think it’s gotta be Wedding Singer.
Ashley (1h 4m 18s):
Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 4m 19s):
Because yeah, just because the Hawaii one 51st States States is a little cuckoo.
Ashley (1h 4m 27s):
There are definitely some things in 51st states that I’m gonna be like when we cover that. Like that didn’t age well. Well I feel
Anne (1h 4m 33s):
Like the Wedding Singer is like a good film anyway. And I think 51st dates, like the story’s kind of weak, you know, like, but Drew is very cute in it. And I swear I’m not the shallow swear. She’s so pretty in, it’s so pretty as the Murdering Psycho, not murdering Attempted Murderer 51st States. I love it because it was like, I was, I’m such a fan and I have been a big fan
Ashley (1h 5m 5s):
At that time. Yeah, yeah.
Anne (1h 5m 6s):
I was a big fan through that. So it’s like,
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 5m 9s):
And they just, they work so well together in it. Like it’s just, it’s them. That’s why we love it, you know? Yeah. But it’s like, yes,
Anne (1h 5m 16s):
His,
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 5m 17s):
His character is wild.
Ashley (1h 5m 20s):
Yeah. He’s doing some stuff that you’re like,
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 5m 24s):
What the hell? Yeah.
Ashley (1h 5m 27s):
I definitely think Robbie Hart in the Wedding Singer is a much like more sympathetic character. The wedding singer is what got me in love with Drew. So that’s like always gonna be a special place in my heart. ’cause I was just like, I, that’s it. I love her. I watched her promoting it on Letterman and Rosie and then I went and saw the movie and that was it. That was it.
Anne (1h 5m 49s):
The rest is history.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 5m 51s):
I’m holding out for her to come back to movies.
Ashley (1h 5m 53s):
I hope so. People ask all the time. It definitely sounds like Adam is gonna be the key to getting her back. They
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 5m 60s):
Have a pretty big break with the talk show of that. They have a good, yeah,
Ashley (1h 6m 5s):
It was few months or
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 6m 6s):
So,
Ashley (1h 6m 6s):
Whether or not quite a few months last time. Well, part of that was the strike. We won’t talk about that. But yeah, I think it’s more, she said she just doesn’t wanna be another person. She wants to be her kid’s mom. Like it’s definitely has to do with her kids. But as they’re getting older, I think it’s more and more likely. Yeah. Let’s hope Fingers.
Anne (1h 6m 25s):
I’m excited to see it. I feel like she can’t stay away from it forever. No. You know, like
Ashley (1h 6m 30s):
She’s a very more, give
Anne (1h 6m 33s):
Her a drink and make
Ashley (1h 6m 35s):
Devil. That’s an SNL quote too.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 6m 39s):
Side tangent about the Barry Moores of that ever. We’re in Calvary Cemetery in East la. We go to visit my grandma. We go to visit Pete’s grandma. And if you go in the old mausoleum, ’cause all of the old cemeteries here have an old mausoleum and you can usually walk into ’em if it’s not like Michael Jackson and Glendale or Yeah. You can usually walk into them and you can kind of look at everybody that’s there. And is it Lionel?
Ashley (1h 7m 5s):
Oh
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 7m 6s):
You can visit my grandma. We’re walking around the, the mausoleum because it’s so beautiful and we’re like, I bet you there’s some famous people here. So we find, and I always hop on Google to see what famous people are buried where. So
Anne (1h 7m 16s):
I love it. That’s something to do.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 7m 17s):
We find a couple of Barrymores. I think Ethel is there and I think Lionel is there. And they’re in the mausoleum. So they’re in the wall and, and Lionel is kind of closer to the ground. And as you go up and you look at it, last time we were there, there was big red lipstick, a big red kiss on it. And we were like, it’s true. Do you think it’s true? It’s true.
Ashley (1h 7m 38s):
It totally could be. She kisses her own freaking star on Hollywood Boulevard and that’s pretty nasty. So. Absolutely.
Anne (1h 7m 46s):
Aw. I’m surprised. I’ve never looked it up. I’ve never thought
Ashley (1h 7m 49s):
I know that. I think maybe John’s in Philadelphia. I think that’s where their family is from. So somebody’s over there. So yeah. The other two may be, oh, that’s so cool you guys. Now we gotta go check it out sometime. Yeah.
Anne (1h 8m 1s):
Yeah. Who else would kiss it,
Ashley (1h 8m 3s):
Right? Yeah, that’s exactly gonna, who else could it be?
Anne (1h 8m 7s):
I mean, she feels like she has a connection to this family.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 8m 9s):
She never, and also like Valentino, it’s like a Barrymore. So yeah.
Ashley (1h 8m 13s):
Yeah. Mr. Potter. I don’t think, think like he’s a big heartthrob.
15 (1h 8m 19s):
Well, what’s your point, Mr. Potter? My point, my point is I want to hire you. Hire me. Yeah. I want you to manage my affairs. Run my properties. George, I’ll start you out at $20,000 a year. Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 8m 34s):
That’s such a Drew move. Like you said, kissing the star and all that. It was very her and it was like, I don’t know how fresh the lipstick was, but it, you know, it was there. You could see it, you know. So
Ashley (1h 8m 45s):
Put some flower beauty on. It’s from like 20 years ago. It’s just like, they don’t, they don’t clean it. You guys, thank you for telling us that. I love when we have a guest that gives us new info. It doesn’t happen that often. So I’m like, yeah,
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 9m 1s):
Just doing the cemetery tour around LA is just so fascinating. Like Hollywood Forever, Calvary Glendale. Yeah. You can see the, the world’s largest painting in Glendale. Oh, of course. Of all, of all like, like tourist traps. Yep.
Ashley (1h 9m 16s):
I’ve only been to the one, is it in Westwood where Marilyn Monroe is? I’ve been to that one. And that’s it.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 9m 21s):
I think so I think
Ashley (1h 9m 23s):
That’s something we should do next time. Ann, we like going to locations. We’ve done a lot of like filming locations. It’s like a whole section on our website. We’re into all that stuff. Yeah. So I was like, oh cool. You live close to where like the doppelganger apartment is. That’s awesome. I’ve never even thought of where that would be.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 9m 41s):
I’ve always wanted to track down that, the mansion from Poison Ivy. ’cause we know, oh,
Ashley (1h 9m 45s):
We’ve been to that. We’ve been, we’ve been, it’s, we probably have the address on our website. We do. Yeah. It looks actually, we’ll I’ll send you guys some pictures. It looks pretty much exactly the same. It’s pretty exciting. It’s really cool.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 9m 58s):
Listen, it’s kind of not too far from where we are too. We’re kind of in the middle of Silver Lake. Let’s feel us in Hollywood. So we’re, yeah, so we’re kind of centralized and I mean, movie locations, we were, you know, like we said, we lived in Pasadena and South Pasadena. We would have, we would take friends to, you know, go see the, like Halloween. I can give the full Halloween walking tour. Yeah.
Ashley (1h 10m 19s):
Nice. So fun. I love that. That is awesome. You guys probably have visited my friend Lindsay’s website. I am not a stalker.com. Yes, she has. Yeah. That’s Lindsay’s Lindsay Blake, she’s our buddy. She’s helped us with a lot of locations. Yeah, she’s like the master a
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 10m 34s):
Lot when you look up. Yeah, she, yeah, I, I, I just found, stumbled upon her website. Just looking up. Yeah,
Ashley (1h 10m 40s):
Me actually, she’s another one that I found and I was like, I love everything you do now you’re gonna be my friend. And I made her be my friend. Just like you guys.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 10m 51s):
I’m
Ashley (1h 10m 51s):
Not Aer very sure. Yeah, Ashley is an active stalker, but she makes herself known, so it’s okay. I’m friendly about it. Yeah. A very friendly stalker. She does exactly how to find the people she loves and wants to make her own. Thank you. Alright, do we have anything else we wanna say about The? Amy Fisher Story?
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 11m 14s):
I do.
Ashley (1h 11m 14s):
Okay. Let’s hear it.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 11m 16s):
I’ve always kind of wondered of looking at somebody like Ryan Murphy. Do you think they would ever dig up The Amy Fisher Story and do a new miniseries? I don’t know if it would be like American crime story, Amy Fisher. If it would just
Ashley (1h 11m 32s):
Be, yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 11m 33s):
Do you think these events are worth taking another look at now if you were to do a new miniseries or something?
Ashley (1h 11m 41s):
I could totally see that and I could definitely see it like, even more so with the angle that this one sort of took with the journalist. Like really looking at it again from the, a new lens of like, this was an underage girl and this is how she was treated. Like, it could be really interesting.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 11m 57s):
You could get all of the sides, you could get Mary Jo’s side, you could get stuff with Joey. I, I just, all of these guys that she tried to buy these guns off of that got drug right. Got dragged into this. I think it would be interesting. And also Mary Jo and Joey’s kids are Yeah. Like all our ages. Oh
Ashley (1h 12m 15s):
Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 12m 16s):
They’re closer to my age and they’re grown now. So it’s like, you know, they would’ve been children at the time, but still kind of aware of everything that was going on, especially with movies and things. What a trip. So they, they would be an interesting kind of angle to get to, to talk about. So yeah, I think that there’s definitely, there’s a, people of a certain age may be unaware of this, I think. Yeah.
Ashley (1h 12m 40s):
Or my husband who’s not even of a certain age. He’s, he’s not way younger,
Anne (1h 12m 44s):
I promise. I like how in the movie they had someone like outside the courtroom that’s like, who’s
Ashley (1h 12m 49s):
Amy? Yeah,
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 12m 52s):
That’s right. No,
Anne (1h 12m 56s):
Doesn’t ring a bell.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 12m 58s):
Those huge tabloid stories at the time that just got kind of lost with a generation and a half that nobody really anymore.
Ashley (1h 13m 6s):
No, I really like in my memory, so I was 10 and I just roll this in with Tanya Harding and Yep. Lorena Bobbit. Like this is, it all was like the same time. It’s like tabloid tv craziness. And then OJ happened and it was
Anne (1h 13m 24s):
OI was just gonna say for me, I feel like I remember OJ more than any of the other ones. Yeah. I’m like slightly younger. So I guess it like makes sense just a couple of years later, I don’t know.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 13m 33s):
And I, I think I was at the stage, I, I watched a lot of tv, same
Ashley (1h 13m 39s):
Too much
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 13m 39s):
TV and I was watching SNL and Late Night and all that stuff. So I feel like, you know,
Anne (1h 13m 46s):
The commentary
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 13m 48s):
Yeah. You know, the hosts, late Night hosts at that time, I don’t think there were, there was a lot of scrutiny of the jokes that they were making or just kind of nobody in the writer’s room just being like, you know, I know this is kind of a crazy story, but maybe we shouldn’t be making jokes about this girl that’s 17. Yeah. Yeah.
Ashley (1h 14m 8s):
That was not a thing at all. They didn’t care.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 14m 11s):
And I think, you know, I think Letterman of course, has kind of been somewhat put through the ringer for kind of the way he treats women and, you know, some of his interviews and things like that. I feel like Jay Leno’s come out of all this kind of smelling like a rose and he wasn’t exactly, you know, a Boy Scout.
Ashley (1h 14m 27s):
Yeah. Wasn’t that, wasn’t that in Pamela Anderson’s documentary? I think there’s a thing with Leno where she really had to like kinda set him in his place.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 14m 36s):
Yeah, absolutely. Documentary was so good.
Ashley (1h 14m 39s):
It was really good.
Anne (1h 14m 41s):
I didn’t see it.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 14m 42s):
Oh, it’s great. But yeah, I do, I think it would be very interesting to see, or even if it was just like, I don’t know, just like a Hulu kind of like the Lorena Bobbit thing or that that was Amazon Prime. Yeah. I think that was Prime. But yeah, any kind of a documentary that has news people now reflecting on it. Yeah. Yeah. Which is always kind of, I
Ashley (1h 15m 4s):
Like it, you know what, this is what happens though. We’re gonna talk about it and then all of a sudden next week we’re gonna find out something’s in the works and we’ll be like, see.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 15m 14s):
Yeah. Yeah. That’s, that’s the biz.
Ashley (1h 15m 18s):
I am really glad that you guys like provoked us to rewatch this though. It had been a long time for me, but I still remembered so much of it. I was like, I guess I watched this more than I thought I did.
Anne (1h 15m 28s):
And on the flip side, I felt like I hadn’t even seen it. Yeah. Maybe once. Like I was like, amazing. I don’t remember this at all. Like her getting the car, like, I’m like, I don’t remember this scene at all. And her name is spelled a, I I know E because that all
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 15m 43s):
A pin striping on the car with her name. Oh my gosh.
Ashley (1h 15m 48s):
So nineties. But it was so fun to just like, again, see Drew be in this era of her career, which is always fascinating. And then be so not herself and not resting on being likable, which is something that she has been accused of and is even said that she does. And Amy is not that here. I did have a one quote from ID magazine. I thought this was cool. They said A Drew is, Amy is magnificently real, trapped, hurt, lonely, and morally vacant. I’m like, yeah, I see that
Anne (1h 16m 21s):
Accurate.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 16m 21s):
Yeah. That’s the thing. I feel like it was such a departure for her. And it’s like, I think, you know, for I, for a kind of a general audience, maybe somebody who’s doesn’t do the, the deep dives that the four of us do, I think, you know, you kind of have this idea of this character that she plays and you know, this just bubbly flower girl kind of a thing. And maybe it wasn’t until something like Great Gardens when people were just like, wow, maybe she really can do, do a little bit more. But for this being so early in her career, it was like, yeah, I don’t remember it being this much of a departure. Wow. I was just like, wow, she’s really, she’s really creating this character.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 17m 2s):
And I mean, for, for better or for worse, you know, what’s going on with the, the accent work. But you know, because we did watch so much of like news, they really did talk about it. Yeah. Like everybody,
Ashley (1h 17m 17s):
They all sound like caricatures.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 17m 20s):
The kids like the grown, they all have, this is a thick accent. And I don’t know if it’s the same town Massapequa, where Amy, where The, Amy, Fisher Story kind of took place. But I know Rosie O’Donnell and she always talks about how she grew up in the same neighborhood as the Baldwins Alec and Oh wow. His brother and I don’t, and maybe Massapequa it maybe the same neighborhood in Long Island. Yeah.
Anne (1h 17m 46s):
Oh, interesting.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 17m 47s):
Yeah. But it might be a, a neighboring one right around there. There’s like Comac and, and and Massapequa and then there’s, I mean, Montauk is further out, but yeah, I know that, that Rosie and the Baldwins weren’t pretty much neighbors and I think it was in the general vicinity and Rosie obviously has a different accent. Yeah. But there, you know, yeah. But yeah, all that stuff is just like, for her being 17, like, wow. Like that’s, that’s amazing. Like Jesus and, and to knock out these three in a row, she did what was the one right before this?
Ashley (1h 18m 22s):
So she did Poison, Ivy gun, crazy doppelganger this and then Bad Girls. So that was her little streak of bad, bad girls. Bad
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 18m 31s):
Girl. Oh man. Bad girls in years.
Anne (1h 18m 36s):
Yeah.
Ashley (1h 18m 37s):
Another one that’s not that great. But it’ll be fun to revisit.
Anne (1h 18m 41s):
Yeah, totally. And like you said,
Ashley (1h 18m 43s):
Actually you guys wanna come back for bad girls, just let us know.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 18m 47s):
And eyebrows in the wild, wild West.
Anne (1h 18m 49s):
Oh
Ashley (1h 18m 49s):
Yeah. Perfectly curled beautiful hair. But I am so thrilled that you guys came on. I appreciate you letting me stalk you and befriend you. And coming on the show is a true, like really exciting honor for me personally, so thank you so much.
Anne (1h 19m 8s):
Yes, thank you.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 19m 9s):
Thank you for having us. And thank you for, for just like gassing us up on your show. Yeah. Like all of the shout outs we’ll have you on. We’ll have you on ours next year when we start recording new episodes. Absolutely.
Anne (1h 19m 19s):
Awesome.
Ashley (1h 19m 20s):
You heard of Hair first?
Anne (1h 19m 22s):
I’m excited. Thank you. Coming with all of the, the facts about Amy and stuff that like Yeah. And you guys like, I don’t know, you added this richness, this like lovely whipped cream on top of our just Drew,
Ashley (1h 19m 39s):
The whi cream and the cherry from you guys and where just the little chocolate Drew cake or the lasagna she threw away. Oh, I was so upset about that.
16 (1h 19m 49s):
Hi. I made dinner.
17 (1h 19m 52s):
Yes. I see.
16 (1h 19m 53s):
I know it looks big, but the rests for 10. Oh,
17 (1h 19m 56s):
It smells delicious, honey. How much cheese did you use?
16 (1h 20m 1s):
I don’t know, A couple of pounds or something.
17 (1h 20m 3s):
Oh, you know, sweetheart, we have to be careful when we’re cooking for your dad because it’s cholesterol who said he had to eat any,
Anne (1h 20m 9s):
I would’ve ate the shit out of that lasagna.
Ashley (1h 20m 12s):
I was like
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 20m 16s):
Worths. I know how lasagnas and expensive. How
Anne (1h 20m 20s):
Much cheese did you put in there?
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 20m 26s):
This was a pleasure. You guys are great. Thank you so much. Thank you for Thank you.
Ashley (1h 20m 29s):
Thank you.
Anne (1h 20m 31s):
All right everybody.
Ashley (1h 20m 33s):
You guys know what to do and you know where to find us. And if you don’t go listen to the last episode, we’ll tell you at the end of that one.
Anne (1h 20m 39s):
Yes. And where should people find you guys
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 20m 42s):
We’re movies that made us gay. We are on, I mean we’re on everything. We’re on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, which I guess is now X blue sky. We’re all there movies that made us gay. Yeah. And we’re on pretty much every podcast listening Yeah. Platform. You can download an episode, you can download us. Yeah. If you, if you have an it’s pre-installed, otherwise Spotify. So yeah, go look
Ashley (1h 21m 5s):
For us. Or you can download 300 episodes like I practically did. Yeah. Okay. I know you don’t have that many more like probably 45.
Anne (1h 21m 13s):
Okay. You
Ashley (1h 21m 14s):
Guys were my top podcast on my Spotify wrapped. I found out yesterday. So,
Anne (1h 21m 19s):
All right everybody, check out movies that made us gay. Thank you so much for staying till the end and we’ll see you next Tuesday.
Ashley (1h 21m 26s):
Thanks guys. Bye-Bye.
Anne (1h 21m 29s):
Bye. Bye.
18 (1h 21m 32s):
You said we’d always be together. I never said that. You know, and if you need some time because it’s Christmas and stuff, I understand, just don’t say it, so don’t say it’s over. Don’t ever say it’s over.
Anne (1h 21m 60s):
This episode of the How Do You Drew podcast was researched and produced by Ashley and Anne from thedrewseum.com with help from our sponsor. Positive medium.
Ashley (1h 22m 9s):
Special thanks to Matt Costa for our lovely theme song, Roxy Prima, for our adorable logo. And last but not least, Drew, Barrymore and all the Drewbise who love her, we do this for you.
Anne (1h 22m 20s):
Thank you.
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Anne (24s):
Okay. Woo
Ashley (25s):
Woo. Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew.
Anne (29s):
This is A Drew Barrymore Podcast, brought to you by the Drewseum dot com
Ashley (34s):
And sponsored by our friends at Positive Media.
Anne (37s):
I’m Anne.
Ashley (38s):
And I’m Ashley.
Anne (40s):
And hello. Hello
Ashley (42s):
Friends.
Anne (42s):
Welcome to the just Post Thanksgiving episode.
Ashley (47s):
Welcome to the Just Post You Hanging Out with Drew episode. If you guys didn’t hear that, that’s not an exaggeration. Anne and Drew hanging out, episode 61. Go check it out.
Anne (57s):
Hung out for a split second. It was pretty exciting guys.
Ashley (59s):
It was more than a split second, let’s be honest.
Anne (1m 1s):
Pretty exciting guys.
Ashley (1m 3s):
And you know what that reminds me? When Mila, my daughter, sent in the drawing for Drew in the first season of the show and Drew was reading it, my little letter that I sent with it, she goes, Ashley, don’t be a stranger. We’ve hung out many times. Like, oh
Anne (1m 19s):
Yeah,
Ashley (1m 19s):
I get, yeah. Something like that. Yeah.
Anne (1m 21s):
Many times in our dreams. Also. Also,
Ashley (1m 25s):
Also, yeah, I’m happy to not be a stranger. Drew just in come send me an invite. Here I come.
Anne (1m 32s):
We’ll be right there. Anytime. Anytime with bells on. Yep. Okay. So right at the top, we’ve got one of our favorite segments. So can you tell me about what Drew proclaimed her love for this past week? I love, love.
Ashley (1m 45s):
Let’s do it. Okay. So Drew loves to drive fast. We knew that.
Anne (1m 50s):
Yeah. He
Ashley (1m 51s):
Loves a gravy boat.
Anne (1m 54s):
I do too. It’s such a like specific little thing. It only comes out a couple times a year. Right?
Ashley (1m 60s):
She loves mustard. Same,
Anne (2m 2s):
Same, same, same
Ashley (2m 4s):
Horse radish. Not same.
Anne (2m 6s):
I think I need to experiment more with horse radish.
Ashley (2m 9s):
And then, did you know that Drew loves celery?
Anne (2m 12s):
I, I don’t think I realized just how much she loved it.
Ashley (2m 16s):
Let’s take a listen.
Anne (2m 18s):
Let’s hear this. Drew loves celery
3 (2m 21s):
Love, love celery. Clearly
Ashley (2m 25s):
That was one of her most passionate proclamations ever. I think.
Anne (2m 31s):
Oh my
Ashley (2m 32s):
Goodness. I also threw in a bonus hates because we love when Drew’s mad about something. She says, no thank you on garden knobs. Nothing pisses her off more than a garden gnome.
Anne (2m 44s):
What did she explain? No,
Ashley (2m 46s):
No explanation. I love that. Nothing pisses me off more than a garden gnome. Nothing.
Anne (2m 55s):
Nothing pisses me off. Alright, so how about our
Ashley (2m 59s):
Drewism of the week?
4 (3m 0s):
Oh, someone’s picking up, you know, those cool little isms that we do?
Ashley (3m 6s):
I’ll set it up context wise. So Drew had these two lovely security women from, what is it called? The Met Arena. Anyway, wherever she saw the Taylor Swift concerts, like a New Jersey or New York. And she made friends with these two women who were working security there. And Drew kind of told the story of how they became friends. Okay, let’s hear it.
5 (3m 26s):
When you came in, you just, the whole world just lit up When I saw you Truly.
4 (3m 31s):
That’s exactly how I felt about you guys. Like I really did. I just, I felt like we avatar tailed and we sort of plugged in and had this great connection. Yes.
Ashley (3m 45s):
I love it. So cute. I love when the Drewism includes a sound effect. Yes. As they often do. It’s, it’s whatever way she’s expressing something. Using like words or adjacent to words. Yeah. Sort of words. Yeah. Alright. Should we talk about some of the mail we got this week?
4 (4m 8s):
You’ve got mail.
Ashley (4m 10s):
I actually pulled two because I was just feeling it. Yeah. We have Catherine on Facebook after our episode last week about You’re going to the show. She had a really nice response. I’m gonna read it to you. Okay. She said yes and a bunch of hard eye emojis. How exciting. So happy Drew knows about the pod now. Hopefully a guest appearance crossed fingers. Yes. We are on the same page as you, Catherine. Yes. All of the fingers crossed all of the toes crossed. Yep. Putting it out there. Putting it out there. I mean, you know, we’ll keep you all in the loop if you’re regular followers. You know that we don’t hide much.
Ashley (4m 52s):
Okay. So what else did you pull? We also got a really lovely comment on our 1995 year in review episode page. That’s our episode 14. So Yolanda left us a wonderful comment there. Okay. I’m gonna go ahead and read it and we’re just gonna go for it unedited. ’cause this whole thing is just sweet. Hi Anne and Ashley, this is Yolanda again. Slowly making my way with catching up on the podcast. I hope it’s not too obnoxious to leave comments on old podcasts, by the way. It is not. Not. And we love it. Do it more everybody. Anybody. Always. Yes. But I had to on this one because, hello. 1995 Drew. Yep. I think this is my favorite era of Drew because it always brings back a magical time period in my life personally as well.
Ashley (5m 38s):
Being a teen in the nineties was truly so fun and magical. And Drew just represents that so well in 95, 96. I totally feel that. Yeah. Oh my God, I have such intense mid nineties nostalgia. So she says, going to grunge alternative concerts and just the free-spirited grounded raw energy of the time.
Anne (5m 57s):
I remember soaking up that Rolling Stone magazine. Drew seemed to be everywhere more than ever at the time. Totally. We’ve talked about that being like one of the Renaissances.
Ashley (6m 7s):
Yep.
Anne (6m 8s):
And I’ll let you take it from here. Okay.
Ashley (6m 10s):
And I totally relate to this, so it’s a great place for me to jump in. You Yolanda continued. All I watched was MTV back then. Shocker. He, he and looked at Rolling Stone and all the teen fashion magazines at that time. Sounds like my life. And she seemed to be everywhere and I just soaked it up. I remember also being jealous in a good way of Drew at that time because my friends and I were so into the Riot Girl grunge scene and Drew a smack dab in it all. Yeah. I also remember all the cool nineties dresses, ex girl shirts and chokers I used to have that I got rid of, which I regret so much now I could go on and on about this year. But just the feelings of being a wild and free teen back then just will always bring back such an indescribable feeling.
Ashley (6m 53s):
And this era will always be part of my memories of being a teen back then. I remember Drew really showing up more than she ever had before. I agree that this was a turning point in her career. Also, definitely enjoyed reliving these cherished memories through your podcast. Thank you.
Anne (7m 8s):
And thank you Yolanda. Like we live for somebody. Being able to like tap into an emotional, you know, memory thing for themself as well as being able to be like, yeah, Drew. Like this is, yeah, this is what we do this for. So
Ashley (7m 22s):
I think that that’s definitely like one of our themes of this podcast is nostalgia. We can’t really help it. Ah. And nineties, if you were a teen back then, you guys know, you understand Yolanda’s totally describing exactly what a lot of us feel. Yes.
Anne (7m 38s):
So good. Totally. Like even though we weren’t in it in 95,
Ashley (7m 43s):
Not in the Drew world, but I was way in the MPV Rolling Stone magazines. That was like all my life. Yeah. That’s all I did back then.
Anne (7m 53s):
My nostalgia is sort of like wishing that I had found it earlier,
Ashley (7m 57s):
You know? I love that.
Anne (7m 58s):
But we’ve got nostalgia up the wazoo, just like many other
Ashley (8m 1s):
Things.
Anne (8m 2s):
Okay. So what was Drew doing this week in history?
Ashley (8m 6s):
Okay. I was excited when I found this because she actually just talked about this recently. Oh cool. So we’re gonna set it up and then we’ll play the clip. So November 29th, 2002, Drew attended a Rolling Stones concert at the Hard Rock Hotel here in Las Vegas. By the way, that does not exist anymore. Oh
Anne (8m 27s):
Yeah, of
Ashley (8m 28s):
Course. It’s now the Virgin Hotel. But she attended it with Cameron and Lucy. Of course. This was like, I think they were in the middle of filming full throttle. So they totally have that look. They’re all wearing News Boy caps, which is hilarious. Couldn’t be more 2002.
Anne (8m 44s):
I didn’t even realize it. Drew’s got the big star on her cheek. Yes.
Ashley (8m 48s):
Which we’ve talked about. And
Anne (8m 50s):
It’s like big, it’s like when she really went diving in on drawing on the face.
Ashley (8m 53s):
Yes. She’s wearing a tie. Like this is total the early 2000 style. Yep. I did notice in a couple pictures in the background, you can barely see him, but Drew’s old, old, old friend, Brent Bolthouse was also there, which is fun. Oh cool. But anyway, so she had Hillary Duff on the Drew Barrymore show recently and they were discussing early two thousands styles. The funny thing is, this was the only one they showed of Drew that actually was from the early two thousands. The rest were from the nineties. Oh my God. Of course. You know me. I’m like, that’s from 1993. What are we talking about here? Oh my God. But this one was great. And Drew talks about that night Scar
4 (9m 29s):
On your face. I was going to the Rolling Stones concert in Vegas with Cameron and Lucy. Aw, fun. Yes. And I got way too drunk and was in the hallway late that night going, I’m an independent woman. And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get in the room.
Ashley (9m 54s):
Anyway, I thought that was really fun that she was so candid about that night. Yes. And you know, I’m, I’m happy to hear stories about when she did drink though. We know that she’s made a conscious decision not to. Yeah. But good that she can have a sense of humor about those times. Absolutely. I’m an independent woman I know, which I love little Charlie’s Angels in joke there. Yes. Okay, so before we get into our fun topic for the week, what’s new with Drew? Okay. Not too much, but we do know that she went to Nashville and it was to interview Dolly Parton, which is pretty cool. That’s cool. And I was kind of giggling to myself.
Ashley (10m 34s):
Hopefully we’ll get some sort of stories about this. But we know that she went to Dollywood with Nancy Jaan right before she was gonna start filming Home Fries in 96. So what if she shared some of those photos? Photos we’ve seen some. Remember she’s the black hair and she’s like on rides and stuff. I guess we’ll have to share one in this episode, but I hope that she shares more. That would be so cool. I hope that she talks about that. Me. That would be really cool. Me too. So anyway. Oh, and this is just a fun thing if people don’t know this, I think we’ve mentioned it before, but when she was in Dollywood, she got a necklace made that said Sally is like kind of part of her prep for home fries. Oh, so cute. I love that so much. So while she was in Nashville, she did her thing, and we’re gonna talk about this later too, where she was out in public and handed out Drew magazines at a coffee shop.
Ashley (11m 21s):
There is a video on Drew’s Instagram of her doing this, which is so cute. We’ll share the link in case you guys missed it. Yep. And then an Instagram user at Staria Clark, she posted a really cool picture of her and Drew with a really sweet caption kind of explaining what happened. Yeah. So I’ll go ahead and read the caption. I was sitting in the Thompson Nashville, which is a hotel having a morning coffee business meeting. And this woman comes up to me, hands me a magazine and goes, here’s a magazine just in case you need something to read. It took me a minute to register that It was actually Drew
Anne (11m 53s):
Barrymore. She hopped around the lobby and the coffee shop passing out copies of her magazine and taking pictures with people. What a beautiful person with bright, strong, loving energy. Such a cool celebrity sighting.
Ashley (12m 5s):
Love that.
Anne (12m 7s):
We love this. Yeah. And then as you’ll hear when you get into the main part of our episode, we talk a little bit about how Drew has continued to pass out copies of her publications as she had since the beginning of Flower Press.
Ashley (12m 20s):
I love the consistency.
Anne (12m 22s):
Yes. Okay, so now you read the title of the episode, you know that we have our friend Tony Craigo back on the episode. And you may have seen, for those of you who submitted questions on our Instagram, make sure you listen for your question here. ’cause I believe we used almost all of them. So
Ashley (12m 42s):
Yeah, we had some great ones. Yeah.
Anne (12m 44s):
So we had a great time talking to Tony. So here’s our conversation. Okay. Tony, welcome back to the height of your Drew pod. Tony.
Tony (13m 6s):
Thank you. It’s so good to be back admission ladies.
Ashley (13m 10s):
Yeah. You know what, you’re our first repeat guest ever.
Tony (13m 14s):
Ooh. Really? Isn’t
Ashley (13m 15s):
That cool? Yeah.
Anne (13m 17s):
And you said at the end of the first one, like, I’ll come back. So we’re like, we’re gonna take you up on that.
Ashley (13m 23s):
It took us a minute, but
Tony (13m 25s):
I had such a good time. And now look at you guys. You guys are, how many episodes in, you’re like, oh
Ashley (13m 29s):
This is, oh my gosh. 62. Yeah. That’s wild. You were on our episode 13 originally. So yeah, lots of time has gone by. We’ve done a lot.
Tony (13m 39s):
That’s cool. Woo, congrats. Congrats.
Anne (13m 43s):
Thank you. And thank you for all your support.
Ashley (13m 46s):
We actually gave you a thank you shout out in our last episode. So you’ll have to go listen to why.
Tony (13m 51s):
Oh, okay. Go.
Ashley (13m 53s):
Yeah, it was for, well it was for connecting us with Drew’s current assistant and helping Anne make that a fun adventure in New York. So that’s all kind of things to you.
Tony (14m 4s):
Yeah. Christina’s the best.
Ashley (14m 6s):
Yeah, we really appreciate it.
Anne (14m 7s):
We’re just learning how awesome she can be. Like we’re finally, we’re finally in.
Tony (14m 15s):
I know. She’s great. She is like, she takes on a lot. She’s always like, come back, come back. Help me. Aw. Like, oh, if only you we’re in New York.
Ashley (14m 24s):
I wish. Yeah. Well that’s actually, this was my question. Do you wish that the show and like Barrymore brands and all that were based in LA
Tony (14m 34s):
Oh yeah. A thousand persons. I, I don’t know why. I mean I know why she moved, but like it’s just like New York. No, but I mean they’re all thriving so I’m happy for them, but no, yeah, yeah. Was still all LA based. ’cause we’d all still be one big happy family. However, Christina May not be there. So everything happens for a reason.
Ashley (14m 53s):
That’s true. Yeah, it’s true.
Anne (14m 55s):
It had to happen so she could get that opportunity to be in the world to, to be brought into the fold, which of which we will all be brought into eventually. Hopefully.
Tony (15m 7s):
Yes. Selfishly. Selfishly I wish everyone was in la. Yeah.
Ashley (15m 12s):
Yeah. Makes sense.
Anne (15m 13s):
Yeah. I re-listened to our original interview with you and you said, yeah, Drew said she’d be pulled out of her house with a body bag. Oh.
Tony (15m 22s):
Say that’s not,
Anne (15m 24s):
I guess she’s dead now. I guess. That’s
Tony (15m 27s):
Exactly,
Anne (15m 27s):
I guess that’s what we have to come to terms of this
Ashley (15m 29s):
Is her ghost that we’re watching. Yeah.
Anne (15m 31s):
But also that makes sense now it makes sense for us to be the historians because it’s the past. Okay.
Tony (15m 36s):
Well I guess maybe that era of Drew is dead. Yeah,
Ashley (15m 41s):
Yeah. Oh, sad.
Tony (15m 44s):
Onto, onto the new newer one onto
Anne (15m 46s):
The professional talk show business lady who we still get the little bits of the Wild Gal and
Ashley (15m 53s):
Yeah, every once in a while.
Anne (15m 57s):
Okay. So we asked our listeners and followers on Instagram to send in some questions for you Tony. So we’re gonna go through, through ’em. I’m
Tony (16m 4s):
Scared.
Anne (16m 6s):
I
Ashley (16m 6s):
Don’t think there’s anything you should be scared of, but you’re gonna enjoy some of these. They’re, they’re pretty fun. Yeah. I really, thanks to everybody who submitted a question, we got a great response and that was very fun to see.
Tony (16m 16s):
Yes. Yeah. Very cool. I’m
Anne (16m 18s):
Excited. Okay. Are you ready? Yeah. So first question, what was the most fun part about being Drew’s assistant?
Tony (16m 27s):
Gosh, I mean, I had such a great time working with Drew. Like every day was different. That’s what I loved about it. ’cause it didn’t, it didn’t feel like for me, I, I had all types of jobs. I’ve worked in offices. Yeah. And it, to me it was just like every day was different. Like you never, you never knew showing up what to expect. Like one day we’re in LA just shopping around the next day we’re in Paris. I don’t know, it’s just different every day, which I love. So that and the experience that I got with her and the opportunities, like those are the best things that I’ll, I’ll always take with me.
Tony (17m 7s):
So I’m super grateful for those. Yeah,
Ashley (17m 10s):
That’s so cool. Kind of on the same track, two different people asked if you had a favorite memory with Drew
Tony (17m 18s):
Favorite. So I would have to say when she shot the movie Blended, ’cause we got to go to South Africa and that was the first time I was able to go to South Africa. And never in my wildest dreams would I have thought I’d be in South Africa. So I would have to say that one because it just, it was such a great opportunity and I met some amazing people, had some great experiences. Yeah, I think that was, yeah, that was the first movie that I had done with her professionally. So yeah, that was, that’s my thing. So yeah. And then I got to go to South Africa again on my own for like a month. So I, you know, being able to meet the people through her and experience what I did brought me back there.
Ashley (18m 3s):
That’s so
Anne (18m 3s):
Cool. Really cool. I like this question though. It’s vague. It says craziest moment with Drew and I actually was wonder, I mean that could, that could be interpreted whatever way you want.
Tony (18m 15s):
Yeah.
Anne (18m 16s):
What is the craziest moment?
Tony (18m 18s):
Moment? My gosh, there’s probably a lot.
Ashley (18m 23s):
I was thinking that too. How could you choose?
Tony (18m 26s):
I know, gosh, I have to really go back in my archives in my brain. No. Yeah. I don’t know. Let’s go back to that one.
Ashley (18m 34s):
Yeah, I love this one. This was one of my favorite questions. I hope you have an answer for this one. What’s the best gift that Drew ever gave to you? Oh,
Tony (18m 44s):
Oh, oh, oh. The best gift by far is she sent me and my husband to Greece.
Ashley (18m 53s):
Oh wow. Yeah, it
Tony (18m 55s):
Was pretty special. She just said one day she’s like, I wanna send you and Michael on a trip anywhere you want to go. And I was like, what? No, what are you talking about? You’re crazy. So then I came back and I’m like, well how about Greece? And she’s like, whatever you want. So yeah. So went to Santorini Konos and like yeah it was, it was pretty special.
Ashley (19m 18s):
That’s amazing.
Anne (19m 20s):
I love that.
Ashley (19m 21s):
That’s really cool. Great answer. Sweet. Yeah,
Anne (19m 24s):
It’s a good one.
Tony (19m 26s):
I know she’s, she’s got such a big heart. Always, always giving the best gift. Well then,
Anne (19m 31s):
Yeah, she like with that show she like redid Deborah’s whole house, right?
Ashley (19m 36s):
Oh yeah, that’s right. That was so awesome that just to watch that Anne. I know,
Anne (19m 41s):
I
Ashley (19m 41s):
Do.
Anne (19m 43s):
Okay. So I feel like this is on a similar track to the craziest thing, but this is a fun one. What’s one of the most surreal things you ever had to find for Drew?
Tony (19m 52s):
I mean there’s probably so many, again, so many things. But
Anne (19m 57s):
Again you’re trying to be like how can I,
Ashley (19m 59s):
Yeah, your eyes are twinkling. Like you have something funny to share.
Tony (20m 4s):
Oh gosh. Well we always had to have the iced tea.
Ashley (20m 7s):
Of course. Go back to that. We have questions about the iced tea. Believe or no matter
Tony (20m 11s):
Matter where we were, we had to find the iced tea. So that was probably the top of the list. Not that that’s out of the norm, but when you’re in South Africa and they don’t have to Java.
Ashley (20m 23s):
Right.
Tony (20m 24s):
You gotta find ways to get to Java.
Anne (20m 27s):
It always comes back to the tea.
Ashley (20m 29s):
Always. Yeah, always. We have a question about that. Approximately how many gallons of ice tea did she have a day do you think?
Tony (20m 39s):
Because
Anne (20m 39s):
This comes from my lovely partner Jared. Oh
Ashley (20m 42s):
That’s right. This is the one from him.
Anne (20m 43s):
He, he wanted me to say Jared from Moorpark asks approximately how many gallons have iced seeded Drew
Tony (20m 50s):
For dinner? Jared from Moore Park, she probably drank like at least one gallon for sure. It’s a lot. Yeah, for
Anne (20m 58s):
Sure. And is it those like glass bottles of tea Java that she would use
Tony (21m 3s):
Be like the regular, the small size or the big size. Okay. Whatever we had on hand.
Ashley (21m 8s):
Whatever Sandy,
Tony (21m 9s):
She would definitely. So those small bottles come in like a four pack? Yeah. Like if you get the big case, they come in like a four pack. She would definitely pretty much go through that entire, I mean we’d had stacks and stacks. She would at least go through
Anne (21m 22s):
Eight one pack.
Tony (21m 24s):
Yeah. Like crazy. Like just in the morning. She’s probably going through like three when she wakes up.
Anne (21m 31s):
Yeah. It’s so great. I mean when I was talking to her after the show, Anita pointed out, ’cause I was with our Drewbie friend Anita and she like pointed out that Drew like had her iced tea and she was like drinking it and chewing on her straw when she was talking to me. I was like, I didn’t even notice. It just felt so like normal. Normal just feels normal.
Ashley (21m 49s):
If
Anne (21m 49s):
She doesn’t have that in hand, like that would be weird. Yeah. Yeah.
Tony (21m 54s):
This is not iced tea.
Anne (21m 55s):
No, but is it one of the beautiful hydration cups though?
Tony (21m 59s):
No it’s not because Christina’s like, I’ll send you one. I’m like, where is it Christina? I haven’t
Ashley (22m 3s):
It reminder to Christina. And
Anne (22m 7s):
Yeah
Tony (22m 7s):
This is a lot stronger than iced tea but no, yeah, she drank a lot of it.
Anne (22m 14s):
That’s great.
Tony (22m 15s):
I always had to like, I’d had to like brew it and make my own to Java if I couldn’t find it.
Ashley (22m 21s):
Wow. Dedicated.
Tony (22m 22s):
We learn like what tasted the closest to it. Yeah. And have those like handy in case we couldn’t find the Well
Anne (22m 31s):
You said the PG tips last time.
Tony (22m 33s):
PG tips. Yeah. That’s
Ashley (22m 34s):
The Oh that’s right. We
Tony (22m 35s):
Would travel with those. You have a good memory. Yeah,
Anne (22m 37s):
I also just re-listened to the episode because I needed to be
Tony (22m 39s):
Fresh. Yeah, we talked about that. But yes, those I would travel with in my suitcase and you know,
Anne (22m 46s):
Just in case
Tony (22m 47s):
They didn’t have it over there. Or if we could find like a Starbucks or something that would have the closest.
Anne (22m 55s):
That’s amazing. I just love everything. I feel like I could just have a whole interview about her iced tea.
Ashley (22m 59s):
I know. Well it’s funny, people obviously were taken by it ’cause they submitted questions regarding it.
Tony (23m 5s):
That’s amazing.
Ashley (23m 6s):
Okay, someone else asked, what did you like most about her and what did you find most challenging about her?
Tony (23m 13s):
She is like, well the most giving and the most kind and the greatest soul. Like she just has the biggest heart. She always looked out for you. Just, she made you feel like, I mean we became a family. She made you, she just was always so welcoming and just, she brought you into everything and just was all inclusive. And I just love being in her presence. Like she’s just such a big presence and there’s just so much to like learn from her. Yeah. I mean she’s great in every area. The most challenging is probably that she has her hands in everything.
Tony (23m 54s):
So it’s like, I wanna do this, I wanna do this, I wanna do this. Yeah. It’s like constantly going. So keeping up with that is challenging because it’s like she’s tells you one thing and then she’s onto the next and like you just have to like figure it out and get it done and go with it and
Ashley (24m 13s):
Yeah. That that tracks.
Tony (24m 15s):
Yeah. Like she just, I remember like her magazine, Drew Mag, like it was just a paper and she’s just always had it in her and we’re always like, why does she wanna do this magazine? Why? Like no one’s going to get it. And like she would take it everywhere. We’d do these like out of her own pocket money, she would create these newspapers and we would like take them out everywhere. I remember we were at like a concert and we were like in the audience and she’s just like handing ’em out to people. I’m like, she’s still doing that to this day. And it’s so funny because I was with my friend Angela and we went to go see The XX with her in New York and we were handing out these magazines, all of us together.
Tony (24m 58s):
And we started off at like a, at a hotel. Like we were in the hotel, like bar like eating. And then all of a sudden we started handing out her magazines, newspapers. And then we go to this concert and we’re handing out these papers and then today to see her handing out these magazines again. I always send this clip to my friend. I’m like, look, she’s still doing it. It’s just so funny. She’s
Ashley (25m 21s):
Consistent. That’s for sure.
Tony (25m 23s):
She has it in her mind. She’s gonna get it done. Which I love. That’s so inspiring.
Ashley (25m 26s):
Yeah, it’s inspiring.
Anne (25m 27s):
It’s awesome. And actually we were talking about like the flower press newspaper version and how like we were like how did you get it? Because we, I think we have at least one of each of the issues.
Ashley (25m 39s):
Yeah, well they used to send them with Flower beauty purchases for a short little while. So that was another way they, but otherwise it was like you got lucky if you saw her at a concert and she handed that to you. Exactly.
Tony (25m 49s):
Star her in thet stands. Yeah.
Anne (25m 51s):
Hands on the ground like yeah, I love it. But it’s also like there are people who post about like their encounters with her at a random coffee shop. Yeah. Sparks. Because you know, it like gets her like actual physical being to promote this, this thing. But it’s like it’s Drew like
Ashley (26m 9s):
Pretty genius. Too bad we can’t go hand the podcast out somewhere.
Anne (26m 14s):
We could
Tony (26m 15s):
Little like Yeah, exactly.
Anne (26m 17s):
Or like thumb drives.
Tony (26m 19s):
Yeah.
Ashley (26m 20s):
You just plug this in your computer, it’s totally safe.
Anne (26m 24s):
No viruses, I promise. Yes. We’re Barrymore fans. Why would we ever do anything cruel? Okay. You have
Tony (26m 30s):
All the old newspaper flower presses or no,
Ashley (26m 33s):
We, yeah, so we, Chris sent us a huge box of one of the, I think the second issue,
Anne (26m 39s):
But it’s an, it’s an oddly like rare thing because there was a finite number printed. They weren’t like distributed like a normal newspaper. So part as far as our collection goes, it’s like a pride spot that we have some because they’re like Right, you know, we just happened to get them however we got them.
Tony (26m 58s):
Now do you guys obviously do but is her magazine subscription based or do you just buy it before
Anne (27m 3s):
It’s now?
Ashley (27m 4s):
Yeah, we finally both were like after like every, every time like, ah they don’t have it here, they don’t have it here. We finally both were like, let’s just subscribe it now we get it in the mailbox bef like way before it even is promoted like way early. So it’s definitely the way to do it. Yeah.
Anne (27m 19s):
Yeah.
Tony (27m 20s):
That’s so awesome. And I’ve never really even looked through it. What is going on in the magazine? Si Similar to Flower press?
Ashley (27m 28s):
No, there’s always a lot of cooking stuff. Like a lot. I’m always like, there’s too many recipes. Like, ’cause I’m just not a cooking person.
Anne (27m 37s):
There’s,
Tony (27m 38s):
She was never, I mean she always liked cooking but she’s way more into cooking now than she ever
Anne (27m 42s):
Oh yeah.
Ashley (27m 43s):
Yeah. Oh yeah.
Tony (27m 44s):
Remember in the beginning she did not know how to cook but she was trying to learn ’cause she was gonna have Olive, so. Right. It’s cool to see her, how big into cooking she is now.
Anne (27m 54s):
Oh yeah. And I feel like what she talked about like making soups when she was pregnant. Yeah, right. Wasn’t that a thing?
Ashley (28m 1s):
Just trying to learn something.
Anne (28m 3s):
Yep.
Ashley (28m 4s):
But there’s a lot of design stuff in the magazines always. Like beauty product stuff. Those are kind of the most consistent. I feel like she
Anne (28m 12s):
Features like smaller makers sometimes. Like we do like features on like
Ashley (28m 18s):
Yeah. Small businesses and
Anne (28m 19s):
Stuff. Yeah. That’s always really cool.
Ashley (28m 22s):
Cool. Yeah, I like that.
Anne (28m 23s):
It’s, it’s really great. It’s a really well designed magazine. It was funny ’cause last time we’re like, wow, this is like mostly recipes and it was like, it’s the holiday issues. So of course it’s, it’s got like tons of holiday recipes. Yeah, it has like a gift guide. I don’t know. It’s it’s a great magazine. It feels like it’s got her all over it and it does. Yeah. It, it does. She’s, she’s featured in many of the sections like with her own sort of personal spin. It’s, it’s cool. Like it feels, it feels like her. You can feel her in it. Okay, next question. Which I really love. What is the biggest thing you learned from Drew as a friend and or colleague?
Tony (28m 59s):
That is a good question.
Anne (29m 1s):
It’s also a big one ’cause it feels like, yeah.
Ashley (29m 3s):
Lost. How could you choose one thing?
Tony (29m 6s):
Let’s come back to that. Okay.
Ashley (29m 9s):
Yeah. Those were all the ones that are like, what are the most or the best. ’cause we put ’em all together. ’cause those are hard to answer. Yeah. They’re, rest of these might be easier. This question is, how much were you around when they were doing the pilot of the Drew Barrymore show? Were you there for any of that?
Tony (29m 36s):
Yeah, I was there for the majority of it. Yeah. I remember like from the like sales tape, the reel that you put together from that point on. And then her, you know, submitting that to CBS or whoever it was. And then once it got the like green light to do the pilot, I was there for the pilot. And then I think I was even like in a couple clips on the pilot. I don’t, which we’ll probably never see.
Ashley (30m 6s):
Oh,
Tony (30m 7s):
I don’t even know if the pilot was aired or if it was just something that we kind of used as the sales take.
Ashley (30m 12s):
I think they’ve shown a little bit of Cameron Diaz doing like the news thing with Drew. Yeah,
Tony (30m 17s):
Yeah, yeah,
Ashley (30m 17s):
Yeah, yeah. I’ve seen that. But I think that’s about it.
Tony (30m 20s):
Yeah. So it was to film segments for that and then we had to fly to Miami to some conference event to where she kind of like had to show it off to people and stuff, so Oh wow.
Anne (30m 35s):
There
Tony (30m 35s):
And then, yeah, until she got the actual green light. And then that’s when I, I left to come back to LA ’cause I couldn’t, I didn’t wanna move to New York full time, so. Yeah.
Ashley (30m 44s):
You’re like darn it, the show got picked up.
Tony (30m 47s):
I know. No, I was so excited. I just wished it would’ve been in LA Yeah,
Ashley (30m 53s):
We do too.
Anne (30m 55s):
I know,
Tony (30m 56s):
I know. ’cause you guys would be able to go like once a month. Yeah.
Anne (30m 60s):
I mean we could be cool if we could go all the time. That would
Tony (31m 2s):
Be easy. Yeah, I’d have your own like s seats
Ashley (31m 5s):
Are good segment. Oh, have our own segment. Okay. Seats. Seats are good too.
Anne (31m 10s):
Segment actually.
Tony (31m 12s):
Segment. Segment. Yeah.
Ashley (31m 14s):
I’m manifesting guys.
Tony (31m 17s):
No, I was just like, yeah, so I was there pretty much for the start of it.
Ashley (31m 21s):
Was it exciting? Like it’s such a different project.
Tony (31m 25s):
It was so exciting. Everybody was, yeah. Everybody was so excited because it was something different and something like, we’re like, yes, this is so perfectly you. Oh. Like, yeah, it, it was a, it was a cool moment. So I’m glad I, I’m so happy to see it succeeding. Yeah.
Anne (31m 42s):
I like how she talks about though like first season she’s like, I was just like goofing around with myself ’cause I didn’t have like, you know, audience. Audience. Yes. And like she’s like, I was a little kooky at first. Like we’ve loved every version of the show and who she like, you know, is out there with it. It’s so great. This question, you know, I feel like it might have an obvious answer but maybe not. Maybe it’ll surprise us. If you got a chance to be in Drew’s audience, are you going to take it?
Tony (32m 9s):
Yeah, for sure. I You
Ashley (32m 11s):
Already did. I saw you there.
Tony (32m 13s):
I know when like I was just in New York, not so long ago, but I think, oh well it was during the strike so it still wasn’t happening. But like yeah, Christine was like, oh I wish we were filming. You could come to the show. And I’m like, I know. I really want to go see. Oh I do want see it in New York. ’cause Me too, like it’s there. It’s where it started and I want to see it. So hopefully I’ll be able to make it out there when it’s shooting.
Ashley (32m 37s):
Yeah. Tell Charlize to go do something in New York.
Tony (32m 40s):
I know. I’m waiting for her to like promote something so we can go on the show.
Ashley (32m 45s):
Oh yeah. Than that. The whole moment. Oh, that’d so cool. That’d be a perfect
Anne (32m 50s):
Excuse. Then you and Christina can be like, you know, bumping fist backstage and
Tony (32m 54s):
Yeah, it’ll happen. It’ll happen.
Ashley (32m 56s):
Love that.
Tony (32m 57s):
We have a movie next, hopefully next year coming out. So hopefully when promotion
Ashley (33m 1s):
Happens. Yay. Fingers crossed. Okay, so this is interesting. This is my own question ’cause I thought of it this morning when I was getting ready. I don’t think we talked about this last time, but you were kind of around in the beginning stages of Flower Beauty, right?
Tony (33m 15s):
Yeah, yeah. Early. Early. Yeah. Beginning stages of that too.
Ashley (33m 18s):
What did you have to do for that? Like do you remember anything specifically?
Tony (33m 22s):
I just remember going to, and I don’t remember where the, where they make the makeup. Like we would go and see like it actually being made and her like working with the
Anne (33m 34s):
The formulas.
Tony (33m 35s):
Formulas, yeah. To create these things. So that was cool.
Ashley (33m 39s):
Wow.
Tony (33m 40s):
But yeah, that, that’s all I really remember of it. And then
Ashley (33m 43s):
You were doing so much at at once. It’s probably so hard.
Tony (33m 47s):
Got so much out. But there’s just, yeah, I remember Flower Beauty, the beginning stages for sure. They’re cool and everybody has like a makeup line and you know, who I saw had and I was like, she’s following in Drew’s footsteps is Selena Gomez has the makeup line and now she’s doing like pots and pans and I’m like, what? Good for you. But okay, Drew,
Anne (34m 9s):
I got this formula.
Ashley (34m 11s):
Here’s the like path you take. She’s gonna have a action before we know it. It
Tony (34m 14s):
For you. Yeah, exactly. Like Selena Gomez and pots and pans. All right. It doesn’t really.
Anne (34m 22s):
Okay, so this next one kind of goes on a totally different topic, but it’s totally in your perspective. And
Ashley (34m 27s):
Two different people asked about this.
Anne (34m 29s):
I’ll just ask kind of both ’cause it’s the same question but different versions. Do you think Drew will ever do a dramatic project like Gray Gardens again? And then another person asks, do you think Drew will return to acting and will we get to see her in more serious or dramatic roles based on what you saw her interest in that?
Tony (34m 45s):
Yeah, I mean she’s, she’s said she’s done, but they all say that and they all come back from
Ashley (34m 51s):
Me.
Tony (34m 52s):
And I feel like there’s certain things like an Adam Sandler would pull her back. Yeah. I think there’s, there’ll be special things that she’ll do it. I feel like now she can be more selective. Yeah. So she doesn’t have to go back if she doesn’t want to. I mean we all want her to. ’cause that’s like where it all began, began
Anne (35m 14s):
Where we all fall in love with her. Yeah,
Ashley (35m 15s):
Yeah. Yeah.
Tony (35m 16s):
So I hope she does and she still needs to win that Oscar so she does need Yeah. Part, right? That’s
Ashley (35m 23s):
Right. But
Tony (35m 23s):
I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know if she has the, with the show, like if she would have the capacity.
Ashley (35m 31s):
Capacity, the bandwidth. Yep.
Tony (35m 33s):
Do all that. I mean like a fun light thing, like an Adam Sandler or Santa Cla. Yeah. I really hope they do like a Santa Clarita diet movie. I know. Like give the fans what they want. We need a movie.
Ashley (35m 44s):
I love that show. Did you work on that show at all or was that kind of when you were not Yeah,
Tony (35m 49s):
I did. Well I did two seasons of it. Oh shoot, I didn’t
Ashley (35m 52s):
Realize that, that,
Tony (35m 53s):
Yeah because I had, I had left, I was gone for the first season and then I came back
Ashley (35m 58s):
Second and third. Oh, that must have been so fun.
Tony (36m 0s):
It was so fun. I loved that show. It’s so,
Anne (36m 2s):
So good
Tony (36m 3s):
Man. I know. I need to go back and watch that.
Ashley (36m 6s):
Yeah, yeah. I’m ready to, we’re definitely gonna do like, we’ll probably have to do each season as its own episode on the podcast. But I’m excited to rewatch it ’cause it’s been, since it aired, I haven’t watched
Anne (36m 16s):
It yet. Yeah. I don’t think I have either.
Ashley (36m 17s):
All right. This is an interesting question. Is Drew aware of the fan sites that she has around the world?
Tony (36m 24s):
No, I think just Joyce,
Anne (36m 26s):
That’s it. That’s the correct answer. I really do.
Ashley (36m 28s):
Perfect answer. Yeah.
Anne (36m 31s):
Except you’re
Ashley (36m 32s):
One we do love Drew Barrymore Brazil as well. Okay, thanks.
Tony (36m 37s):
Her Brazilian fans are great. Definitely. I mean I am sure she’s clued into some of it, but they don’t really, I’m sure see a lot of it
Ashley (36m 47s):
Also, I don’t feel like her ego would let her like dwell on it very much. Like she’s not gonna be like focused on people love me everywhere.
Tony (36m 56s):
Yeah, right.
Anne (36m 57s):
But how could you be aware if you’ve just been in, literally in like the public eye for your whole life, how could you have any idea? I don’t know like the, the amount of content that’s out here, the
Ashley (37m 10s):
Perspective has gotta be really hard.
Anne (37m 11s):
It would be really hard to understand if you’re just in it. If you’re you, she’s Drew, how do, how you know, why would she think that anyone would care?
Ashley (37m 19s):
Well that’s perfect for the next question.
Anne (37m 21s):
Oh yes, it’s the next question is does she know she’s Drew Barrymore? She seems so humble.
Tony (37m 28s):
No, she literally would like go anywhere and like takes the train by herself. Yeah. She just, she, I mean she just tries to maintain a normal life as much as possible. But she would, yeah, she’s just always like out doing her own thing. She’ll go to you know, workout classes, she’ll go to the store like whatever she does good. But yeah, she doesn’t, I don’t think really realize it until people come up to her or there’s a, you know, paparazzi or something. But yeah.
Ashley (38m 2s):
Yeah, it is funny. Like it does seem like she’s always like so genuinely surprised that people are interested in her. But I think you probably, that’s probably healthy to like keep that kind of like, she probably has to to feel normal. Yeah.
Anne (38m 16s):
And we’ve joked about her disguises, which I feel like she’s gotta have like something where she just like looks like a normal person and she’s not gonna stand out. Like
Tony (38m 26s):
Never, she always just wears like her chunky hat and like her heavy coats and like people recognize her from like, like you wouldn’t even think that they would and they’re like they know. Or if she opens her mouth, that gives it away.
Ashley (38m 40s):
Yeah, I was gonna say hear her voice.
Anne (38m 44s):
I love that. I love that she like lets herself just live her life. It seems really healthy.
Ashley (38m 51s):
Okay, we have some like more personal questions just aimed at you. So someone wanted to know if you have a favorite of Drew’s movies.
Tony (39m 1s):
I would have to say never been Kissed or blended. Both because I was a part of Yeah,
Ashley (39m 8s):
I know. I was like, ’cause you your first and your last, right? No, I guess your last was the Stand-in That’s not your favorite.
Tony (39m 16s):
That one was really quirky but it was, it was interesting. I didn’t hate it.
Ashley (39m 23s):
Ann still has to watch that.
Tony (39m 25s):
You’ve seen that? Come on.
Ashley (39m 27s):
I’m like, we have to discuss that.
Anne (39m 29s):
I don’t like Drew Barrymore. I love her. So I just try to give her the respect and the space that she needs. I’m just kidding.
Ashley (39m 36s):
I’m just
Anne (39m 36s):
Kidding. I will watch it eventually.
Ashley (39m 40s):
Never Been Kissed is a good one though. That’s one of our most popular episodes is the one that we did on Never Been Kissed. That one just means a lot to so many people. Yeah,
Anne (39m 47s):
It really does. This is just kind of a fun one personal question for you. How long should we wait until you visit Germany from our friend Vacca who lives in Germany?
Ashley (39m 58s):
He knows the twins.
Tony (40m 0s):
Yeah. I love the twins. I saw them in Italy. No, yeah, Italy last year and I’m, I need to go to Germany. I’ve never been so I’m hoping soon I would love to be out there.
Ashley (40m 12s):
Yay. Stay tuned. Va
Tony (40m 13s):
They can show me around.
Anne (40m 15s):
That’d be
Ashley (40m 16s):
Awesome. That’s awesome. They’re so sweet.
Tony (40m 18s):
I’ve never been dying to go.
Ashley (40m 21s):
This is from Drew, Barrymore, Brazil from Renata. She just wanted, she doesn’t have a question. She just wanted to say, you have always been so nice to all the Brazilian fans. Thank you. Tony.
Tony (40m 30s):
That’s a, another place I want to go to really badly is Brazil. So when I come out there, she’ll have to show it.
Ashley (40m 36s):
Yeah,
Tony (40m 37s):
Yeah. And you’re welcome. We love the Brazilian fans.
Ashley (40m 41s):
Aw
Anne (40m 41s):
Yeah, she’s a good one. Okay, and then the last one, you might be able to figure out who this is from. Favorite memory working with Mason.
Tony (40m 50s):
Is that from Mason? Yeah. He was the worst. No, just kidding. Everything. Mason was great. He, he was, he took me under his wing when I first started and he like, we became fast friends. Like he was, he was awesome and he was a great person to learn from. He was, yeah. He knew his shit and I like always looked up to him, so,
Ashley (41m 14s):
Aw.
Tony (41m 15s):
Sad to see when he left me.
Anne (41m 16s):
Did you guys have like specific ways that you broke up your tasks as the assistance?
Tony (41m 23s):
Yeah, he did more at that time. He did more of like the business side of stuff and I did more of the personal stuff. So that’s how we kept it separate.
Anne (41m 32s):
I think we kind of knew that. Yeah. But
Ashley (41m 34s):
Yeah, I ki I was like, I kind of would’ve guessed that. Yeah. Yeah.
Tony (41m 36s):
Sometimes it would cross over, but mostly that’s how we, yeah.
Ashley (41m 40s):
You guys seemed like a good work team. I
Tony (41m 42s):
Have so many great memories with Mason. Like being able to travel with him, we would always like, gosh, we would do so many fun things together. I remember we had to move Drew’s Drew had a house in Austin.
Ashley (41m 56s):
Oh really?
Tony (41m 57s):
Yeah, years ago. Like long, long ago. And so we moved the house, Mason and I got like a rental car, a rental truck and moved the entire house back to LA So we just sort of like had Oh my
Ashley (42m 7s):
God.
Tony (42m 9s):
Yeah, we had great memories together. Oh, I
Anne (42m 12s):
Miss it. Was it a house she had when she was filming Whippet or It was like from way before that?
Tony (42m 18s):
I think it was way before that.
Ashley (42m 20s):
Wow.
Anne (42m 20s):
Wow. Interesting. Look
Ashley (42m 21s):
You teaching us something new? I
Tony (42m 23s):
Had no idea. Never knew about the Austin House. No,
Anne (42m 26s):
I don’t think so. I don’t think we knew anything about that.
Tony (42m 29s):
Speaking of Mason, I think his birthday’s today or tomorrow.
Ashley (42m 32s):
Oh my God. Happy birthday Mason.
Tony (42m 34s):
I forgot. Say yeah. Happy birthday Mason.
Ashley (42m 36s):
It was very fun when he reached out with a question. I was like, oh my God, I love this. I’m saving it for last. That’s
Anne (42m 45s):
Really fun. That is really fun. Yeah, you and Mason really like helped carry her through like a really, really busy time in her career because she was just doing so much
Ashley (42m 57s):
Always though.
Anne (42m 58s):
Always. But I feel like then it was like the books were coming out. She was having kids. Yeah, she was still doing movies. Like the show started, you know, the Flo, the Flower Beauty brand. Like there was so, I mean she, yeah, she still is doing so much. And like you said, like yeah that her new staff is keeping it going, but it’s like, man,
Tony (43m 17s):
I know. Oh, Mason was the OG though. og.
Ashley (43m 20s):
Oh, OG
Anne (43m 21s):
Mason. Yeah. Birthday
Tony (43m 22s):
Boy Mason og.
Ashley (43m 24s):
I love that.
Tony (43m 27s):
Yeah. Compare
Anne (43m 30s):
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Anne (44m 53s):
Okay, coming back to craziest moment with Drew, what came to mind?
Tony (45m 1s):
Craziest moment. God, I, there’s so many, but one that really stands out. We were on our way rushing somewhere to get her to a meeting and I was driving her and she was changing in the car and she, we were stopped at a stop sign or a light or something and she was changing and she opened her, opened the passenger door and this motorcyclist came right by and almost got knocked out by her. Oh shit. And he like swerved and then like came back over and like totally started cussing us out. It was like, oh my god, I’m so sorry. Like crazy stuff like that that stands out the most.
Anne (45m 38s):
Did this motorcyclist know it was Drew Barrymore after the fact? Probably
Tony (45m 41s):
Not. Probably not.
Ashley (45m 42s):
Probably not. No. He’ll know now. He’ll hear this. Exactly.
Tony (45m 45s):
Apologies to him.
Anne (45m 47s):
Yes. And we’re not at all surprised to hear she’d be changing in the car.
Ashley (45m 50s):
No, we, we know that’s a common thing. She’s been caught doing it in parking lots by paparazzi.
Tony (45m 57s):
Always on the go
Ashley (45m 59s):
Stars are just like us. Right,
Tony (46m 1s):
Exactly. I mean there’s so many more crazy moments, but that one just for some reason stands out.
Ashley (46m 7s):
I love that one. I
Anne (46m 8s):
Mean you’re in the driver’s seat so it’s like, in a way you have this responsibility to make sure that your passengers are
Tony (46m 13s):
Like, yeah, it’s safe. I’m door closed. Whatcha doing? Why
Ashley (46m 17s):
You need to do the child walk. Are
Tony (46m 18s):
You opening the door? I know, I’m like gonna run in the back like what? What are doing? Oh my God.
Anne (46m 24s):
She’s like, I need my shoes. They’re in the backseat. Yep,
Ashley (46m 27s):
Exactly.
Anne (46m 27s):
I’m gonna step
Tony (46m 28s):
Out fully. You probably didn’t wanna climb over the seat, right? So she lemme just run out real quick and get them and run back up and then she almost knocked someone out in the process.
Anne (46m 38s):
Drew Barrymore. Just trying to get business done. Exactly.
Ashley (46m 42s):
And did you think of maybe what your biggest thing you learned from her at personally or as a colleague?
Tony (46m 48s):
Yeah, I mean, again, she’s always had her hands in so much and like whatever she touched, like turned to gold. Like she was so successful. It just sort of gave me a drive to like really like go after what I want and just to be confident and to like pursue my, my goals and dreams and you know, I think like she just watching her and being in her presence kind of like she gave that to me so I, that’s something I always cherish and bring with me.
Ashley (47m 21s):
Aw. I feel like even, you know, not working with her, obviously from a distance, I feel like I get that from her too. Like yeah, right. We can do this podcast, we can be successful. Like it’s our, we’re having so much fun, let’s go for it.
Tony (47m 34s):
Exactly.
Anne (47m 35s):
I feel like anytime she talks about like, if there’s something you love, like go for it. Like Yeah.
Tony (47m 40s):
Yeah, she’s, she’s so like that in person and working with her it’s, she’s very motivating. So.
Ashley (47m 46s):
Aw, that’s a great way to sum it all up.
Anne (47m 50s):
That’s awesome.
Ashley (47m 52s):
Yeah, we loved having you on this show Tony so cool that you came back.
Tony (47m 56s):
Oh, fun. I love being on this show. Yeah. Thank you guys.
Ashley (48m 0s):
If you think of like a topic that you ever wanna come back for, just you know, let us know if you’re like, wait, I really wanna discuss X, Y, ZI
Anne (48m 7s):
Think he wants to discuss blended.
Ashley (48m 9s):
Yeah. Oh yeah, obvi. There we go. Obviously when we do a blended episode, we’ll have you on. That would be perfect.
Anne (48m 15s):
We already know that Adam Sandler tried to teach you how to juggle.
Tony (48m 19s):
Oh that’s great. About that.
Anne (48m 21s):
Good
Tony (48m 22s):
Memory. Yeah. So
Anne (48m 23s):
We’ve got one little blended set tidbit.
Ashley (48m 25s):
Oh, that’s so fun.
Anne (48m 27s):
I’m sure you’ll have more so when we do blended we can have you,
Tony (48m 30s):
Okay, I’m gonna have to start thinking about that stuff.
Ashley (48m 32s):
You’ll have to go re-watch the movie and like take notes like we do.
Tony (48m 36s):
Did you guys like that movie?
Ashley (48m 38s):
Yeah, I only saw it once.
Tony (48m 40s):
It didn’t get a lot of love when it first came out, but I see it on like TV all the time now. It’s out on
Ashley (48m 45s):
Stuff. Oh, that’s cool. I, I need to revisit it.
Anne (48m 48s):
Turn, I’m like, oh well and Jolena and I went to the premiere of it. That’s right. And we got to talk to Drew afterwards and she’d just given birth to find.
Ashley (48m 58s):
Yeah.
Anne (48m 59s):
Like she was like two weeks out from giving birth or something. She crazy.
Ashley (49m 3s):
Do you have a cameo in that one?
Tony (49m 5s):
No, I know I
Ashley (49m 6s):
Didn’t. I didn’t think so. But yeah, you have other ones.
Tony (49m 12s):
Exactly.
Anne (49m 13s):
Yeah. We’ve got all your cameos on lock I think.
Ashley (49m 15s):
Yeah, we have a little gallery in the last episode. Go look at episode 13 gallery to see Tony in the background of some stuff.
Tony (49m 24s):
Too funny.
Ashley (49m 27s):
Well thank you again for your time and your beautiful presence and all the giggles. Yeah. It’s just so fun hanging out with you virtually.
Tony (49m 36s):
Always fun to do this. So thank you for inviting me the happy holidays everyone. Thank
Ashley (49m 43s):
You. Thank
Anne (49m 44s):
You again Tony.
Tony (49m 45s):
Welcome. We
Anne (49m 46s):
Appreciate you.
Tony (49m 47s):
Alright,
Ashley (50m 2s):
Thank you so much Tony. That was so much fun. If you guys enjoyed that conversation, make sure you go back and listen to our episode 13 when he first came on. He shared some great stories that time too. We love you Tony. Thanks for We love you Tony friend of the pod. Yeah,
Anne (50m 18s):
So great. Yeah, we can’t wait to have you back.
Ashley (50m 24s):
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Ashley (51m 32s):
Seeing Mila, my daughter, do the Nutcracker. Aw, yeah, I’m very, she was Clara, which is the lead last year, which was incredible. This year she will have a little bit more challenging dances, so that’ll be great. Plus I just love it. It’s like one of the Christmas traditions I really like is the Nutcracker.
Anne (51m 49s):
Oh, I love that. What about you? Well, traveling, I’ll be in California for a huge chunk of December and then I’ll be visiting Las Vegas to see Ashley in the fa. So I’ve got a lot of stuff I’m looking forward to. I’ll be away from my cats, but they’ll have somebody lovely taking care of them. So not looking forward to that. But you know, let’s, let’s look at, let’s focus on the positive.
Ashley (52m 12s):
Speaking of Willow, just walked in the room. My cat, fluffy Willow. Hi Willow.
Anne (52m 16s):
Will willow my cat’s like fucked off a while ago. I don’t know where they are. Okay everybody, thanks for tuning in. We hope you enjoyed our part two with Tony Crago. Can’t wait to have him back, as we’ve already said. And we’ll see you next Tuesday.
Ashley (52m 31s):
Thanks. Bye
Anne (52m 32s):
Bye
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Bye.
Anne (52m 46s):
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Ashley (52m 55s):
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Anne (53m 5s):
Thank you. Thank you.
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Ashley (24s):
All right. Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew.
Anne (27s):
This is A Drew Barrymore Podcast, brought to you by thedrewseum.com
Ashley (31s):
And sponsored by our friends at Positive Medium.
Anne (34s):
I’m Anne.
Ashley (35s):
And I’m Ashley.
Anne (37s):
And we have a third person that’s name starts as an A as well visiting.
Ashley (43s):
I noticed that too. I’m like another A.
Anne (46s):
So welcome Anita, our dear friend from The Grapevine, which we’ve mentioned many times, the Drew Barrymore message board from back in the day. Hello. Hi. Hi.
Anita (56s):
This is so exciting.
Ashley (58s):
Yay. Thank you for joining us. Absolutely. I mean, we go way back probably 98, 99, I’m sure is when we first started connecting with each other, which is just crazy to think about.
Anita (1m 9s):
Yeah, it’s wild to think it’s been that long. Yeah.
Anne (1m 12s):
And, and Anita and I, which we’ll get into in a minute, got to spend some time together recently. And during that we were kind of like, it’s a trip how, you know, even if some of us aren’t necessarily actively collecting on Drew Barrymore anymore, we still have this connection that’s kept us connected. And it’s quite a nice size community. I mean, even if it is only like nice size to us, you know,
Ashley (1m 36s):
I think think’s still incredible that this many years have gone by and they’re still like, yeah, like you said, this little community that we formed so long ago. Yes. And it lives on, it’s just awesome. Yes.
Anne (1m 47s):
The first tribe we found. Yeah.
Anita (1m 50s):
Yeah.
Anne (1m 51s):
Ok. So let’s start a little bit with introduction to Anita, how you became a fan. What do you remember about the early days and what kind of attracted you to Miss Drew Barrymore?
Anita (2m 4s):
So, I mean, I guess I’ve been a fan since the E.T. Days.
Ashley (2m 8s):
That’s crazy. Oh my God.
Anita (2m 10s):
Yeah.
Ashley (2m 10s):
I knew you were like further back than us, but I didn’t realize it was that much further.
Anita (2m 14s):
Yeah. I, so I think I was around three years old when the movie was released and I went to the theater in my small town and saw the movie with my mom. I think I sat on her lap and when Drew first came on screen, she had her blonde pigtails tied with the like string or the yarn. Yes. And at, at the time, I was very blonde and I would also wear my hair in pigtails, or I guess I should say my mom would put my hair on pigtails. And I just thought that she like looked like me and I instantly like fell in love with her and thought of her as like a sister or a friend.
Anita (2m 59s):
And that’s, that’s how it all started.
Ashley (3m 2s):
I love that.
Anne (3m 4s):
I love it so much. Do you remember like at what point it became like an active fandom? Like do you remember like maybe what first cherished maybe thing that you collected or like thing that you might’ve seen that that sticks out in your mind?
Anita (3m 19s):
So for a long period, I wasn’t very like invested in Drew’s career. Or keeping up on, on things. And there was also a lull obviously where she wasn’t working as much or like the things were more independent movies.
Anne (3m 31s):
Totally.
Anita (3m 32s):
And I think it was around the time of Poison Ivy that I started to become like interested in her career again. Wow. But the, the first thing that I remember kind of collecting and really being invested in her and wanting to actively collect and pay attention to her career was around the time of Boys on the Side of Met Love.
Anne (3m 53s):
Okay.
Ashley (3m 54s):
The best time.
Anita (3m 55s):
Yeah. Right. Like the best time. I still have my Mad Love ticket stub from the movie theater and I have every stub from every Drew movie I’ve gone to see since then.
Ashley (4m 9s):
Yay. Me Too.
Anita (4m 10s):
And that’s kind of what started the collecting.
Anne (4m 12s):
I love it. And I love that kind of like sentimental ephemeral, you know? Oh yes. The movie tickets. Like now I feel like I haven’t had a physical movie ticket in a while. Oh,
Anita (4m 22s):
I know, right? I miss it so much.
Anne (4m 24s):
And when you get them, they’re like that paper that like you let it sit for a while and it starts to turn and it’s gray. Yes. And turns gray like receipt paper or it fades away. I’m like, no. Exactly. Let’s just use that same old stuff with the tearaway. Like what’s wrong with you? Anyway, I love that so much. Of course we’ve talked about this before, but, and I think you said it Ashley, like we’ve met you in like late nineties, early two thousands on this message board and we’ve been in touch since you are no longer actively collecting, but you’re still part of this community and you support our podcast, which we’re so grateful for,
Ashley (4m 58s):
You’re so supportive. Also, I just wanna say like how many times Anne and I have been like, oh, imagine if we to have been there in the 95 era like you were there. Like so we kind of bow down that you’re even more old school than we are. It’s awesome.
Anita (5m 11s):
I think though, is that like it, it doesn’t really matter what time period you enter into your Drew fandom. Yeah. I mean I think there was definitely like a heyday. But the cool thing about Drew is that she, who she is at her core has remained the same.
Ashley (5m 29s):
Aww.
Anita (5m 29s):
I think that’s kind of why you have such, like, you have so many fans that are new who maybe we don’t know as well is because like Drew kind of transcends all of her. Like even though she had periods where she was maybe releasing more movies or a lot of us were kind of into maybe like the more like hippie like grunge side of Drew. And she kept a little bit of that throughout her life and her career.
Anne (5m 58s):
Yep. And she just has this outward appearance that’s a little more professional. But I feel like deep down she’s the same gal.
Ashley (6m 4s):
I love that. So well said.
Anne (6m 6s):
That’s lovely. Okay, so we’re just gonna like jump into the pod now. We’ll be talking a lot more with Anita and feel free to chime in whenever you’d like.
Anita (6m 17s):
Okay.
Anne (6m 18s):
Okay. So the first segment that we’re gonna hop into this week is, I wanna know what did Drew declare her love for last week?
Drew (6m 28s):
I love, love.
Ashley (6m 29s):
All right, we got some good ones. Okay. All right. Drew loves layering of rugs.
Anita (6m 36s):
Ah, okay.
Anne (6m 37s):
Yeah,
Anita (6m 37s):
I love that.
Ashley (6m 39s):
Salmon skin.
Anne (6m 41s):
You know what, I think I was on the show and I was like, I think I need to try to eat my salmon skin next time. I always throw it away. Ooh.
Ashley (6m 49s):
I’m like, can’t relate. Okay.
Anne (6m 51s): Okay. What else?
Ashley (6m 51s):
She also loves poetry. We know this. Okay. And USA Today, which I thought was fun because I feel like some of our coolest newspaper items in our collection are from USA Today.
Anne (7m 2s):
That is funny though. Yeah.
Ashley (7m 4s):
Urban Outfitters. I feel like we knew that one. Okay. This one’s a little cheaty ’cause we’ve sort of had segments of this before. But I’m gonna put the full sentence in here. The funk of a man’s T-shirt.
Anita (7m 16s):
I agree.
Ashley (7m 17s):
She’s loved that since the Eric Erlandson days. I know she declared that back then.
Anne (7m 26s):
And yeah, if it’s the funk of the man that you love. Yeah, yeah. Or like are crushing on. Absolutely. But generally,
Ashley (7m 32s):
Yeah I don’t want some random man’s.
Anne (7m 33s):
Yeah. I think it’s like your, the funk of your man’s t-shirt is sort of what I was saying.
Anita (7m 38s):
Yeah. Not random funk.
Anne (7m 38s):
No random funk, please.
Ashley (7m 39s):
Alright. And finally, Drew loves a cheesecloth and a designer hook.
Anne (7m 45s): Just one of each.
Ashley (7m 48s):
Yeah, one of each. Singular.
Anne (7m 50s):
Also like designer hook, like something you like put on the wall to hang things.
Ashley (7m 54s):
Correct.
Anne (7m 55s):
That’s made by a designer. Okay.
Ashley (7m 56s):
And it looks good. Like it’s not just a random piece of hardware. Oh yeah.
Anne (7m 59s):
Oh, I do have kind of a cute one on my wall.
Ashley (8m 1s):
I believe it. I bet Anita does too. Anita has a amazing interior design style. Yes. And aesthetic eye. I always have been. I’ve always admired your eye for aesthetics.
Anita (8m 11s):
Thank you. It’s all thrifted. Every last thing I own basically.
Ashley (8m 16s):
That’s amazing. Well, you do it right.
Anne (8m 19s):
You still have to kind of like have the taste.
Ashley (8m 21s):
Yes. You know, and you do.
Anita (8m 24s):
I guess so. Yeah. Thank you.
Anne (8m 25s):
All right. So now for our Drewism of the week, what did you pull for us, Ashley?
Drew (8m 32s):
Oh, someone’s picking up, you know, those cool little isms that we do.
Ashley (8m 37s):
Okay. We haven’t had one of these in a while, so I like this one. So she was talking to People Magazine about how she has not gotten plastic surgery and she said, I look forward to seeing what I look like as a leather bag in the future.
Anne (8m 51s):
I’m sure she’ll be just a gorgeous weathered leather bag,
Ashley (8m 58s):
Like a thrifted bag that Anita would find and make look good.
Anita (9m 2s):
An old leather tote. Yes.
Anne (9m 6s):
Just, you know, a really functional, beautiful one that just makes you so happy when you look at it. Perfect.
Anita (9m 12s):
Perfect patina.
Anne (9m 13s):
Yes. Okay. So now for this week in Drew History, what did you pull?
Ashley (9m 21s):
Oh, this is a good one. Okay. November 21st, 1982. Let’s go back to the fourth annual Youth in Film awards. Woo. These were held at the Sheraton Universal Hotel and Drew won best young supporting actress in a motion picture for E.T. of course she was up against the other nominations were Toni Ann Gisondi from Annie. And I think that’s the part that Drew auditioned for the part of Molly in Annie. That’s my guess. I don’t know that for sure, but that’s my I my instinct. Okay. And then also nominated were Molly Ringwald in Tempest and then of course Heather O’Rourke in Poltergeist.
Ashley (10m 4s):
Another part Drew almost got or went for so. And there’s some really cute pictures of the two of them together at this award show.
Anne (10m 12s):
And we wanna play a little clip of when she won it because it’s so cute,
Ashley (10m 16s):
It’s so famous and like perfect.
Drew (10m 18s):
Thank you for this award. I appreciate it very much. This is my first award.
Ashley (10m 32s):
Oh, I love it so much.
Anne (10m 36s):
So cute.
Anita (10m 36s):
It’s the cutest,
Ashley (10m 37s):
Isn’t it a young Joey Lawrence who introduces her to the award. Is that right?
Anne (10m 44s):
It sure looks like it.
Ashley (10m 45s):
I’m pretty sure it is.
Anita (10m 47s):
I can’t remember, but that seems very familiar.
Ashley (10m 50s):
So cute. And I have a program from this. I totally had forgotten until I started like getting into it. I was like, oh yeah, that’s a good cool thing to have. Oh
Anne (10m 59s):
Cool. Yeah.
Ashley (10m 60s):
And there’s great photos of her again, like we said with Heather O’Rourke and then also with Robert McNaughton from E.T. E.T. Won like everything that year I guess. And it was kind of unusual. And then she
was nominated and attended several other years and supposedly she hosted them in 1985, which is so cool.
Anne (11m 19s):
Oh! We gotta find footage of that.
Ashley (11m 22s):
I knew she attended, but I know we just have photos. But every year it’s like hosted by a child actor, so it makes sense.
Anne (11m 29s):
Aw, that’s so cute.
Ashley (11m 30s):
I don’t know if they still go on or not. Probably not.
Anne (11m 34s):
I don’t feel like I’ve been in tune with the Youth in Film Awards for sure.
Ashley (11m 39s):
Not on your radar, huh?
Anne (11m 41s):
No, it’s not. You know, it’s not. Although, you know, if I had been a fan in the eighties, it might be. Yeah. Like everything that I know about in the industry is basically because of Drew. All right. So let’s get into what’s new with Drew. It looks like you’ve pulled quite a few little tidbits, Ash. So let’s talk about it.
Ashley (12m 1s):
You know what’s funny is that we, two episodes ago we were like, oh, the new Drew magazine, it’s coming, we’ll talk about it when we get it and then we forgot to talk about it Last week.
Anne (12m 11s):
Oops.
Ashley (12m 11s):
But we did a live on Instagram, so if you do wanna see, you know, what’s in the magazine and what our opinions are on it, you can go watch that. Either it’s on the Drewseum Instagram and you can see us chatting about it live.
Anne (12m 25s):
Yes. Just a couple little tidbits that are fun about it. For those of you who don’t check out the live and don’t have the magazine in your hands for some reason. A couple things that are cool. It’s the first time she’s had anyone other than just herself, well she’s on the magazine as well, on the cover.
Ashley (12m 40s):
That’s not a dog.
Anne (12m 41s):
Yes. Other humans.
Ashley (12m 42s):
Other humans. Yeah.
Anne (12m 44s):
And also her handwriting is featured on the cover as the little names for each of the individuals on the cover, which was really cool. So we talked about that in the ins in the Instagram Live. But just thought I would bring that up.
Ashley (12m 57s):
Speaking of humans. That’s a great segue. Drew got a new tattoo.
Anne (13m 1s):
Yes.
Ashley (13m 3s):
So exciting. So I did a little, a little research, a little sleuthing, and I found out that she got it on your birthday Anne, November 7th.
Anne (13m 13s):
Happy birthday to me.
Ashley (13m 14s):
So cool. I don’t know, it just seems special because we are talking about getting some tattoos right now. We are Anne and I, and also our friend Joalena. So for her to get a new one on your birthday just felt like a good sign. I like it.
Anne (13m 29s):
Yeah. Like we needed more encouragement to do this. We’ve been talking about it for years.
Ashley (13m 32s):
Truly.
Anne (13m 33s):
You know, like literally years and always trying to figure out like what’s the thing that we can do to like honor how we met, you know, our connection. So that’s coming up. So anyway, let’s talk about what the tattoo is. So she just got the words simply, I am human under her existing tattoo that says Home is where we are. And it’s on her right arm. It’s tattoo number 12. And I like this that she said she likes all but two of them, one of which we know is the flowers on her hip and what else do we think?
Ashley (14m 4s):
I think the other one is the bird. And the only reason I say that is because it’s the most random and it’s the one we don’t know anything about. Like why does she have that bird? That’s my guess.
Anne (14m 15s):
I feel like at some point she talked about how the moon doesn’t really look like a moon anymore, but I think she also really loves it, right?
Ashley (14m 23s):
Yeah. I don’t know. It could be the moon. What do you think Anita?
Anita (14m 27s):
I mean, so isn’t there one that says Jaid?
Ashley (14m 30s):
True.
Anita (14m 30s):
Yeah. So I mean that that might be, and not necessarily, yeah, I don’t know. Possibly the moon would be my guess as well because I think she basically said that it’s just blurry and you can’t tell that it’s a moon anymore. Yeah. But that’s something that, I don’t know if there’d necessarily be regret there. We might be right about the bird. I would be very curious to know the meaning behind that one
Anne (14m 58s):
Me too. Dying to know. Except for every time I see it, I’m like, I love perching birdies.
Anita (15m 2s): Of course.
Anne (15m 2s):
And I said that when we’re in New York, which I’ll talk about more in a minute too.
Ashley (15m 8s):
Oh, okay okay.
Anne (15m 8s):
Another tease guys.
Ashley (15m 9s):
She did say that she thinks she’ll be getting tattoos for the rest of her life, which is fun to imagine. They’ll still be coming,
Anne (15m 16s):
They’re gonna end up on her face if she keeps going.
Ashley (15m 19s):
Oh no. This one was done by artist John Mesa live on the show, sorta? Like when they actually started the show, it looked like it was already over, so…
Anne (15m 29s):
Oh!
Ashley (15m 29s):
I don’t totally know how that went.
Anne (15m 32s):
Like it was too fast. Yeah, we weren’t filming yet, John.
Ashley (15m 36s):
But she did say it was the least painful one she’d ever gotten. So he has like a little, a really light touch apparently.
Anne (15m 41s):
Nice. The text is very thin also. So I wonder if there’s something about that.
Ashley (15m 47s):
I was thinking that too. Joel Madden was the guest on the show and he approved of what she wrote and he had like a really nice thing to say about it and she said it sent her on her way with little clouds and wings.
Anne (15m 58s):
Aw. And Joel Madden is the one that’s married to Cameron Diaz?
Ashley (16m 2s):
Nope, it’s the one that’s married to Nicole Richie.
Anne (16m 5s):
Okay.
Ashley (16m 5s):
But she’s like, we’re not family, but we kind of are My best friend is married to your twin brother, like you know,
Anne (16m 12s):
What’s the other brother’s name? I’m blanking.
Anita (16m 14s):
Benji.
Ashley (16m 14s):
Benji. Yep. Yep. That’s right.
Anne (16m 16s):
Thank you for pulling that out.
Ashley (16m 18s):
Still is so random to me. Like him and Cameron I go never would’ve.
Anne (16m 21s):
Yeah. But also it’s like she did date like Jared Leto who was like in a band, you know, like maybe
Ashley (16m 29s): Justin Timberlake.
Anne (16m 29s): Yeah, that’s true.
Ashley (16m 30s):
Related I guess.
Anne (16m 31s):
Yeah. So maybe she’s just really attracted to people who she’s seen on stage.
Ashley (16m 36s):
I mean we, we all get that.
Anita (16m 39s):
Yeah. She likes the musician, who doesn’t.?
Anne (16m 41s):
Exactly. Exactly. Funnily enough. So I was watching the Megan Fox interview, which was really good. And I totally had this like very subconscious thought of like, wow, Drew’s arm is really getting full like with all those tattoos. And then I realized it was actually already there. It was like before we knew she got the tattoo. But
Ashley (17m 5s):
yeah Filming schedule wise, they had already filmed it and I was like, oh, part of me subconsciously knew there was something new there, but I didn’t,
Anne (17m 12s):
You’re so familiar with like how full her arm is that like, you’re like, that’s weird. Why is that weird?
Ashley (17m 17s):
And then this is just on the same sort of tattoo train. So she had an interview with the F-1 driver, Daniel Ricciardo, and she showed him a picture of her James Cherub tattoo because he has a similar angel and either the way they showed it and they edited it or it’s real, his name is totally blacked out now, so I’m so curious like did they just like Photoshop it or has she gotten it covered? Like it was more than, I think it could have naturally bled to,
Anne (17m 53s):
Yep. Maybe.
Anita (17m 53s):
Oh,
Ashley (17m 53s):
We’ll have to share a screenshot of it.
Anita (17m 57s):
Maybe that’s one of the regret tattoos maybe.
Anne (18m 0s):
Maybe.
Ashley (18m 1s):
Yeah. But then I was like, if she’s showing it to him. So could she say she doesn’t? I don’t know. I don’t know. But I thought it was pretty funny that his name is totally, totally gone. And then of course I have, you know me, I’m such a little bitch, I gotta call out anytime that Drew gets her dates wrong.
Anne (18m 20s):
Of course
Ashley (18m 20s):
She’s like, she’s like, I got this one when I was 13. I’m like, Drew, you did not know Jamie Walters. Like you dated him four years later. That’s when you got this tattoo too.
Anne (18m 31s):
I think that’s what she needs to hire us to do. I think we’ve said this is just to be like, I’m gonna talk about this on the show. Can you tell me the timeline? Thanks.
Ashley (18m 39s):
Fact checkers, we’re here for it.
Anne (18m 40s):
Okay, so what else you got for this week?
Ashley (18m 45s):
Drew also was part of the Domino, Domino Magazine Good Design Awards. So for home products. And she was one of six guest editors who helped choose a bunch of products that were especially cool this year, I guess.
Anita (18m 59s):
That’s neat.
Anne (19m 0s):
Okay. She helped choose some for it. Yeah. Okay.
Ashley (19m 4s):
Also the beautiful Drew chair was on the list, which, conveniently enough. I dunno if that’s a little coincidence or what.
Anne (19m 13s):
I wonder, I wonder if it’s sort of like if you are a designer that has something that’s been highly like rated, you get to be on the like judging side as well. Maybe it’s like, maybe it works like that. I don’t know.
Ashley (19m 27s):
Maybe.
Anne (19m 27s):
I would like to think they wouldn’t just like, people wouldn’t just be nominating their own products. Who knows?
Anita (19m 32s):
Who know. I see so many versions of that chair as well. Like everywhere now. Yep. But there are multiple colorways now. Yep. There’s it used to be white and now there’s like a sage green.
Ashley (19m 44s):
Yes.
Anne (19m 44s):
I want the sage.
Ashley (19m 46s):
Yes,
Anita (19m 46s):
I love the green.
Ashley (19m 48s):
And then the final thing I wanna mention, and then I’m gonna take like a little backseat and just listen to you guys. The Drew Barrymore Show hit a Ratings high. This is via The Wrap and I guess it was a 22 week ratings high averaging 1.1 million viewers in the Last week of October. And it is currently the number three most watched syndicated talk show. So Wow.
Anne (20m 12s): Nice. Yes.
Ashley (20m 13s):
I guess the whole scandal of the writer strike didn’t hurt them too badly.
Anne (20m 18s):
Well, unless, unless that’s why people are tuning in. ’cause they’re like, can we really hate Miss Drew Barrymore? And then they’re like, no, it’s impossible. Yeah, no, but that’s congrats to Drew and the show. That’s so cool. Yeah.
Ashley (20m 31s):
Great news.
Anne (20m 32s):
Howdy, Drewbies.
Ashley (20m 37s):
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Anne (21m 55s):
Okay. I know you said you wanted to take a back seat and I gotta just jump in the driver’s seat right now.
Ashley (22m 5s):
Well I’m just like, I feel like I’m gonna be one of our listeners right now. I’m like on the edge of my seat because I, I have heard parts of this story, but you were standing on a busy New York street while you were telling me
Anne (22m 16s):
I sure was.
Ashley (22m 16s):
Let’s hear what you guys did this week.
Anne (22m 21s):
Okay, so our weekly topic is just talking about, you know, a little old visit to New York City that Anita and I took this past week. Yay. Yeah. So our visit included The Drew Barrymore Show on November 16th. We attended the first taping of the day and it’s going to air on the 22nd and now we’re gonna get into our story a little bit. Okay. So the first thing I wanted to talk about with this taping is that we are lucky enough to be in contact with Drew’s current personal assistant who has been really lovely but we haven’t really been able to do any events to like really utilize that contact. So this was one of the first things that we were able to do is reach out and say, Hey Anne will be there, what can you do?
Anne (23m 4s):
So we didn’t really know what that would mean.
Ashley (23m 7s):
I do wanna interject and just say a big thank you to Tony Crago. Tony was Drew’s assistant at one point and he kind of helped introduce us to her current one. So thank you to Tony and if you guys wanna know more from Tony, we’re gonna be doing a Q&A episode with him real soon. So be on the lookout for the call for questions.
Anne (23m 26s):
Yes. And also check out the previous episode we did with Tony, which was a lot of fun. Yep. Okay. So we got that affirmative, we’re in sort of thing. And then Anita and I quickly planned the trip, so literally like a little over a week before we planned this trip. Okay.
Anita (23m 43s):
Since I’m riding shotgun. Yes. Can I just say
Anne (23m 47s):
Yes.
Anita (23m 48s):
It was on your birthday that you were basically like, should we do this?
Anne (23m 53s):
Yes.
Anita (23m 54s):
Can this be a thing?
Anne (23m 56s):
I think you’re right.
Anita (23m 56s):
Can we go to New York City? And it just kind of all came together so quickly and so easily that it felt 100% like meant to happen.
Anne (24m 5s):
Yes.
Ashley (24m 5s):
Love it.
Anne (24m 6s):
Yeah. And I don’t really believe necessarily that the universe cares about us little humans, but sometimes it feels like you’re getting a little push, you know, it’s like, yes, absolutely. You feel something happening and it’s like I just have to do this. And I’m very fortunate that I am able to just pick up and do that. I mean obviously let’s go ahead and just jump to New York City. So we made our way there. We were there by Wednesday the 15th in the evening and just so excited. We’re like, can’t wait till the morning, just kind of buzzing all night. And then we’re making our way that morning to the studio and right when we get to the block of the studio, Ross is on the corner and so. And I kind of nudged Anita and she’s like, what?
Anne (24m 48s):
What? And then I was like, I’m just gonna go for it because we were about to cross and everyone in New York jaywalks. Okay. So like it was just us and Ross and maybe there was someone behind us, but there
really weren’t that many people like on the corner. And so I, I just like kind of looked over and was like, hi Ross.
Ashley (25m 1s):
Oh my gosh.
Anne (25m 2s):
And then I was, and he’s like, oh hi. He was like really sweet. And I said, we’re coming to the show. And I just wanted to say hi and we’re really big fans of Drew and we’re so excited. And he was like, great, I’ll see you. And I’ll look a lot better than this. And he looked great. Of course he always looks put together. I know, right? So I was like, you look amazing what you’re talking about. And then we’re like, okay, see you in there.
Ashley (25m 21s):
Aw. Yeah. Can I ask real quick? Yeah. Did he seem to realize that you guys were there?
Anita (25m 26s):
Yes, he did.
Anne (25m 27s):
Did he say something like, oh you guys got great seats?
Anita (25m 29s):
Yes he did. He came up to where we were sitting and he, he made a comment like that so he went hundred percent like realized where we were and that he had seen us on the street. Oh cute. Yeah, it was very cute.
Anne (25m 39s):
And I wish I would’ve like thought to take a picture but I was just like, he’s on his way to work. Literally.
Ashley (25m 43s):
Yeah. And you’re like crossing a street. That’s ok.
Anne (25m 45s):
Yes. But I’m glad I just acknowledged ’cause of course he was so sweet. I wanted to say also that we got permission ahead of time from her staff to bring Drew a gift. You’re not supposed to do that. It says it explicitly on the ticket
Ashley (25m 56s): Breaking the law. Yeah.
Anne (25m 58s):
We were instructed by her assistant to hand it to this really sweet guard. I think I said something about like really appreciating his role in protecting Drew or something. And he is like, yeah, he said something about how Drew like hugs everyone and is very like, you know, welcoming and sometimes that makes them feel a little bit like, come on Drew. Like don’t be so like opening yourself up to everybody. So it’s kind of interesting.
Ashley (26m 15s):
I could definitely see that. Yeah.
Anne (26m 22s):
I sort of explained to him ’cause he’s like, who are you that we’ve been in touch with her staff for many years and deeply respect that chain of command. At which point he brought up Chris Miller and like, do you know Chris Miller? And I was like, oh yeah, I actually met him in 2001 and that was my initial connection. And then we kind of both gushed about him a little bit.
Ashley (26m 37s):
How cute. Can I say when you texted me and you’re like, oh I had to give the gift to a security guard. I was like, damn it. Like it’s just gonna go in some random like pile of gifts. But no, then when you explained I was like, oh okay, that’s better.
Anne (26m 55s):
The little gift that we wanted to get Drew, actually it’s kind of funny how it came up.
Ashley (27m 0s):
It is.
Anne (27m 1s):
So last week in our episode we used a little clip about Drew saying she calls her house, Chez Sardine. And when we did that I was like, okay, I gotta make sure I can find this clip later. So then I like just typed the word Chez Sardine into our text and I think you did a, a test search to see if it would work. It was just sort of a silly thing. And you saw that you’d had a screenshot of a really cute tea towel.
Ashley (27m 25s):
So yeah, I, I mean I can tell this part because I actually am involved with this part. Yeah. So I just did like a random search sardine in my text and because the technology is insane now, it pulled up this tea towel that I had sent you a picture of a while back like, oh we should get this for Drew because it has a really cute illustration of three little sardines in their little tin can just like Drew and her daughters in bed. Yep. And and I was like, wait a minute, we should actually get this for her now that you’re going. So there was this whole thing, I won’t like go too far into it, but we ended up having to get it overnighted and luckily like the both the
maker of the towel and the shop where we bought it were super awesome and worked with us to make sure it got there in time.
Ashley (28m 9s):
So it was just kind of, again, it all worked out. It was like one of those signs as well.
Anne (28m 13s):
Yep. And then we had it delivered to my hotel and I was so excited when I got there and it was there. It was like, yes. Success.
Ashley (28m 19s):
Yes, I know. And we’ll share a picture of it in the episode page. Of course.
Anne (28m 23s):
Yes. And I’ll, I’ll mention that a little bit more later ’cause we were able to give it to Drew. We got a little bit of a response, so we’ll talk about that in a minute. When we got there we were ushered past like the lines of regular ticket holders, which always feels a little bit weird. Yeah. When we got in, we were greeted by name. I think they like talked to each other. Everyone has like a radio. So when we walked in they’re like, and we’re like, oh yes. Wow. And we were handed tickets with a little blue highlight across the front, which when I saw that I was like, what do other people’s tickets have? Like what does that mean? Because we still didn’t know where we would be sitting in the studio. Sure. And we’re just like thrilled like we’re here. And I also, before I really like move forward too much, Anita has never been able to meet Drew.
Anne (29m 5s):
So this was this opportunity for us to meet New York and for that to happen, like there was a certain buzzing ness. Like I was so excited for that
Ashley (29m 14s):
Same
Anne (29m 14s):
While we were sitting in Thera waiting room. This was one of the coolest like things. Yeah. Drew’s assistant was walking by and she was with the dogs Douglas and Lucy and we got to have a little moment with them. So I think I just, just like, hey. And she came over and the dogs were right at her tail. I started petting Lucy immediately. It was like such a fluffy sweet cloud. Oh my gosh.
Ashley (29m 41s): Amazing.
Anne (29m 41s):
And Lucy almost started to like lay down at my feet.
Anita (29m 46s):
Aw.
Anne (29m 46s):
Douglas was also there and I, I sort of like, the word that kept coming to my mind when I was thinking back on it is like, Douglas is so like regal and attentive. That’s sweet. Like it’s very cute and Lucy just seems like, is like, all right, I’m just gonna lay down here and chill. It was so cute. Okay.
Ashley (30m 5s):
Question. Did you tell Douglas and Lucy to listen to our pets episode?
Anne (30m 9s):
I, I didn’t, I didn’t wanna make a spectacle. I always felt like I was
Anita (30m 13s):
Ata,
Anne (30m 14s):
But yes, it was my chance to say thank you to her assistant for you know, getting us in there and gave her a big hug. And yeah, it was cool seeing the dogs. I mean amazing
Ashley (30m 25s):
If
Anne (30m 26s):
You watch the show, you know, you know that the dogs are around
Anita (30m 29s):
But yeah,
Anne (30m 30s):
I didn’t know that I would get to see them first so that, no
Ashley (30m 33s):
Kidding. Did anyone else in the waiting room like seemed to recognize the dogs?
Anne (30m 37s):
I don’t know.
Anita (30m 38s):
Yes. I felt like there were a couple of people who definitely kind of knew and recognized the dogs and tried to call them over. Oh my God. But the dogs did kind of immediately come to us and stick near us and like lay down near us. It was one of my favorite moments of the entire experience.
Ashley (30m 56s):
That is so cool.
Anne (30m 57s):
And we were joking after like I’m like, well we just have the aura, like Drew, like we’ve been, we’ve been modeling our like aura after this lovely person that happens to be their mom. So like Drew.
Anita (31m 10s):
Yeah. We could sense it. It was very nice of her to come in and like give us hugs. Yes. Oh
Anne (31m 18s):
Totally.
Anita (31m 19s):
And speak with us and yeah. I think she even thanked you for the gift perhaps.
Anne (31m 23s):
Maybe. I think she might’ve said Drew loved it at that point.
Anita (31m 27s):
Yeah, yeah, that’s right. She did. Oh wow.
Ashley (31m 29s):
That’s crazy to imagine like this was being delivered to her and you were on the other side of the wall.
Anne (31m 35s):
Yeah. Like she was looking at it. Well it was a trip. Like I saw the security guard who I handed to earlier, like walk by, go like 20 seconds and then come back empty handed. I’m like, that means she’s like in an office like right there.
Anita (31m 48s):
True. But you were also like, I hope that didn’t end up in a garbage can. Yeah, totally.
Anne (31m 53s):
So we entered the studio and we were still, we were kind of standing in line, slowly waiting. They were seating some people in the like kind of bleacher area and some people were sitting in the front like leather chairs, which we still didn’t know. Right. And then right when we walked up they said Anne and Anita.
Anita (32m 11s):
Wow.
Ashley (32m 12s):
That’s so cool you guys.
Anne (32m 15s):
I know. Yeah. And then we’re like yes. And then they ushered us to two of the four very front seats.
Ashley (32m 21s):
Yes.
Anne (32m 21s):
And we’re immediately like, what are we doing here? You know?
Anita (32m 25s):
Yeah. It was surreal.
Anne (32m 27s):
It was
Ashley (32m 29s):
Was the set just as beautiful as like it looks on screen,
Anne (32m 32s):
It was really beautiful but as usual of course like you can, you know when you walk into one of those studios you see like behind the facade. Yeah, yeah. Which is such a funny thing. And when you’re actually there, like there are camera cables everywhere. But it was really like a beautifully designed studio. We were admiring some of the books that were in the like side. Oh cool. Seats we were in were like leather swivel chairs. I know,
Ashley (32m 56s):
They’re so pretty. Yeah, I’ve totally noticed though.
Anne (32m 58s):
So comfy, the interview area was about 10 feet to our right and the kitchen area was about like 15 feet to our left just to kinda give you like gauging where stuff was happening. And
Ashley (33m 8s):
Then the Drew’s news
Anne (33m 10s):
Desk. Drew’s desk. Desk. Yeah.
Anita (33m 10s):
Feel like once we got in there and we’re seated I was like wow. It feels a lot smaller than it appears like on tv. Yes.
Anne (33m 17s):
And also the audience is not like a large, a super large audience.
Anita (33m 21s):
No, not at all.
Anne (33m 23s):
Okay. So now we get into Drew actually arriving on set. Yeah.
Ashley (33m 26s):
Where’d she enter from?
Anne (33m 28s):
I think she entered from the side door on the left. Do you remember Anita?
Anita (33m 31s):
I think she entered from the I. No, did she come down the the from the back
Anne (33m 36s):
Behind us?
Anita (33m 36s):
I think she came from behind us.
Ashley (33m 38s):
Yeah, I was, that’s kind of what I was wondering.
Anne (33m 41s):
But we were just like, our head was swiveling everywhere, like where is she gonna come from? So she first like was kind of ushered over to the area where she would be interviewing Lisa Ling and I thought it was after the interview that she actually like locked eyes with us. But Anita reminded me that it was actually before. So yes she walked over there. Oh my god. And then looked right at us and smiled and waved and then just kind of started to like shuffle over
Ashley (34m 10s):
Oh my God.
Anne (34m 10s):
And came over and like immediately hugged us and I think the first thing she said to me was, I love the gift or something to that effect. Oh she said she like wanted to come back and try to talk more but of course she’s running her show. We had the quickest little introduction to Anita.
Anita (34m 29s):
Yeah.
Anne (34m 29s):
Can you gimme your perspective on that moment Anita? ’cause I feel like I was so like what is happening?
Anita (34m 36s):
It’s so funny ’cause that’s the moment I remember the the best.
Anne (34m 40s):
Okay.
Anita (34m 40s):
Oh so she came out and she kind of like turned around and said I think a couple of things to like the rest of the audience to all of us I guess. And then she walked over to do the Lisa Ling interview and she sat down in the chair and then she kind of was like surveying the audience and looked over at us and then she made eye contact with both of us. But then she looked specifically at Anne and I think she like started to talk but then she realized she was quite far to make it like personal. Yeah. So then she got up and came over and was like hugging both of us and like speaking with us for an extended period when they should be filming.
Anita (35m 21s):
And then she like started to walk back over afterwards and like said something to the effect of like, oh like I’m so sorry like that, you know, I took the time to do that. Or like, I’m making us behind or something like that. I can’t really remember what the wording was, but she like actually took classic Drew. Yeah. She like took that moment when she like kind of put off the interview with Lisa to come and speak with us. Which I thought was very, very
Ashley (35m 47s):
Lisa’s like. Hello.
Anita (35m 48s):
Yeah.
Anne (35m 49s):
The other thing I wasn’t aware of, but obviously if I was in the bleachers and I saw Drew go up to somebody, I’d be like, who the hell’s that? Totally. Also, I, I have to like step back a second and say that the warmup person, which if you’ve ever been to a talk show, which Anita you had before, Ashley of course you and I’ve been to send, they do the, you know, the warmup person comes out and they were like, Drew loves talking to the audience. She’ll probably try to talk to all of you. Oops.
Anita (36m 16s):
Whoop.
Anne (36m 16s):
Or just the two of you right there. Yes. But so I, I do feel like we got like that attention there was, there was some other talking to the audience moments for sure. One other cute thing that I do remember from that moment is that she was kind of starting to walk back away from us towards the interview spot and she was like wanting to show her sardine ta to, to us I guess. Yes. Because she started to kind of try to unbutton her sleeve and I was like I know, I know. That’s why we got it for you.
Anita (36m 44s):
Yeah. But she couldn’t do it. She’s
Ashley (36m 46s):
Like, you won’t believe this but I have a sardine.
Anne (36m 48s):
Okay so now I’m just gonna like say what kind of what the segments of the show were just ’cause it’s kind of cool to talk about what we saw. So she did an interview with Lisa Ling as we, as we mentioned and it was an
investigative report she did about psychedelic mushrooms being used for trauma and mental illness and all kinds of stuff. Really fascinating. Wow. And one of the things Drew said was that yeah she has done mushrooms but when she’s done mushrooms she’s running in a field and listening to Ridge against the machine
Ashley (37m 27s):
That tracks.
Anne (37m 27s):
Yes. And then even though the, our view was kind of obstructed by these like massive TV cameras, we were able to see Drew kind of in like three quarter profiles sometimes depending on how she was looking. I don’t, I don’t know what your view was Anita at that
Anita (37m 45s):
Point. Yeah, same.
Anne (37m 47s):
Okay. But what we loved and we kind of cracked up about after is that we could see Douglas on like the fluffy rug at their feet, like cleaning himself almost the whole time. Oh my gosh. Which is so cute.
Anita (37m 58s):
Yes.
Anne (37m 58s):
Yeah. So, and other thing I’ll say about the dogs is I didn’t see Lucy for like almost the entire show until there’s a cooking segment towards the end and I saw Lucy kind of roaming around. I think you pointed out Lucy to me. Yeah.
Ashley (38m 12s):
She’s like food time
Anne (38m 13s):
Douglas was like following Drew everywhere. It was very cute.
Ashley (38m 16s):
Oh sweet. Anita, can I ask you, did you feel like Drew’s so tiny in person when you saw her where you’re like, oh my God she’s so tiny like that, that I always feel that way?
Anita (38m 26s):
Yes and no. No. I don’t know. I think maybe because this sounds strange but I used to be much larger. Like I’ve lost a lot of weight and so I feel like my perspective then is maybe a little bit different than it might be now. But Oh interesting. I, I feel like she wasn’t as like tiny as I think I pictured in my mind. Oh she’s definitely like a petite person but I don’t know she just wasn’t as like petite and little as I think I expected her to be.
Ashley (38m 56s):
Fascinating. Yeah. Okay, cool. Just curious.
Anne (38m 58s):
Ashlyn and I have always said every time we see her I’m like struck by how small she is. Right. But it’s not like, it’s not even one thing. It’s not like she’s so skinny or she’s so short. It’s like just
Ashley (39m 9s):
All around.
Anita (39m 10s):
Right. All
Anne (39m 11s):
Around. So now Drew’s news, which was so cute and fun as it always is, Drew and Ross, they had a story about texting and about like in relationships especially early in the relationship, like if texting is a good idea. Yeah. And Drew was like so firm in the, I hate texting side and Ross talked about how much he loved it and it was just kind of funny when you guys see the show, if you’ll see her just kind of like, I hate it. I hate it.
Ashley (39m 43s):
I can totally visualize that. I don’t even need to see you right now. I know the face.
Anita (39m 48s):
I’m with her by the way. You’re
Anne (39m 51s):
With her.
Anita (39m 51s):
Oh absolutely.
Anne (39m 52s):
Yeah. I’m such a texter. I do remember she said something like, I love it for logistics but other than that, yes
let’s just enjoy our time in person. Let’s not try to like communicate stuff through this.
Anita (40m 2s):
Exactly. I agree.
Anne (40m 3s):
I understand the idea but I’m just so, I’m like such a like into all the technology, let’s use the things that make efficient. Right. I don’t know. So I
Anita (40m 13s):
Think I’m very easily like misunderstood through text.
Anne (40m 14s):
Okay, okay. And
Anita (40m 16s):
Just in general honestly as a human. But I feel like through text especially, I always feel like there’s like, wait did you mean this? Yeah. Or did you mean that that happens a lot. So I think it’s way easier in person.
Anne (40m 27s):
It lacks tone. Yeah,
Anita (40m 28s):
True. Totally.
Anne (40m 29s):
So I get it. It was just really cute hearing her like ha
Anita (40m 34s):
Yeah
Anne (40m 34s):
There was a segment where they talked about like this tip that they like read about, about cutting a piece of cake using tongs, like kitchen tongs and they attempted to cut a piece of cake with the beautiful tongs, which I feel like that type, they’re like a bulkier handle. So I think that’s why it didn’t work. But anyway, it kind of failed. It kind of like smashed the cake. It was pretty funny.
Anita (40m 58s):
Yeah. They’re like rubber handles and I feel like you need like the The fully metal Yeah the metal metal tong.
Yeah.
Anne (41m 3s):
Like the flat handle ones. Yep. But Drew like tasted the cake I guess not realizing that it was pumpkin spice and she apparently hates pumpkin spice.
Anita (41m 12s):
Yeah.
Ashley (41m 13s):
I think she said that recently on the show.
Anita (41m 16s):
And then Ross offered like a piece to the audience. Yes. And I was very tempted to get it but I felt like it was one of those weird moments where I couldn’t tell if it was just for like to be so offering it. You know what I mean? Or if he really did some want someone to come up and take, take the piece of cake and try it.
Anne (41m 34s):
Well after the fact when I had that massive headache I really was wishing we had had that piece of cake.
Anita (41m 39s):
Absolutely.
Anne (41m 40s):
So one other thing that I, that I thought was really cute when we were watching the Drew news segment at one point, I don’t remember what they were talking about, but Drew looked over and we were petting Douglas ’cause Douglas had come down and she like, oh my god. And she gave us like a really scrunchie face smile and it was so cute ’cause it looked like she was like proud mama.
Anita (42m 2s):
Yes. Oh that’s so special. Isn’t cute. Absolutely
Anne (42m 6s):
That cute.
Ashley (42m 6s):
Love that. Oh my gosh you guys,
Anne (42m 9s):
Whenever Douglas was wandering I’d be like, come here. And because we were right up front,
Anita (42m 15s):
That was one of the three like very personal moments. Yes. Aw. Like that’s how I looked at it was like the first was when she came over before interviewing Lisa and then that was the second. Yes.
Anne (42m 23s):
It was so sweet. It was just like a little, I don’t know how to describe it but I loved that like it was like her baby.
Anita (42m 30s):
It was a very intimate moment that you would like almost do to like a friend. Exactly. Or like someone whos come to your home and meeting your pets for the first time.
Anne (42m 37s):
Yes. Like you look across the room at a party and you see them petting your loved your loved one.
Ashley (42m 41s):
I love that.
Anita (42m 42s):
It was so cute.
Anne (42m 44s):
So one other segment they did was a side dish competition because I love that Thanksgiving is like couple days after it airs. The judges were Eric Andre and his writing partner Dan Curry. So that was really fun that Drew did like a celery and Lee soup with Pilar. Yeah. And I forget what the other thing was Ross was doing with someone else and I’m sorry, I don’t know who
Anita (43m 7s):
With some sort of stuffing. Right.
Anne (43m 9s):
It was like a stuffing thing but then it had like falafel in it. I can’t remember. Yeah. It was so fun to see Pilar. Yeah,
Ashley (43m 15s):
I was gonna ask about that.
Anne (43m 16s):
I looked over at Anita and I was like, isn’t she so cute? And we were just admiring like her super cute blonde pixie cut and her, she just has
Ashley (43m 24s):
Like a personal style that I’m like, no one could pull this off, but you always look cute.
Anne (43m 28s):
Yeah. She, she knows what works for her I think. Yeah. So that was fun even though though once again because it was like over to the side TV cameras were basically obstructing our view, but it was still super cool to get like, you know, peeks here and there. A lot of stuff was going on ’cause there were like five people behind the like kitchen area and then Eric Andre and Dan Curry were off to the side. So there were like seven people kind of clustered in one corner.
Ashley (43m 52s):
Wow. That’s unusual.
Anne (43m 53s):
It was kind of crazy. And then Drew and Pilar won for their side dish and they got an award that was like, had a big Turkey on the top. And you remember how a couple weeks ago you said that Drew said she loves the Drew Barrymore show trophies, award
Ashley (44m 8s):
Trophies. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anita (44m 10s):
That’s
Anne (44m 11s):
Awesome. So this, so this was one of them, I think the very end of the show was this like Turkey dance where they pulled a mother and daughter from the audience and had them wear these Turkey hats and they put boxes of feathers strapped to their back and they had to like kind of like twerk to get the feathers to come out. It was amazing. It was so funny. But the audience members were so cute and the daughter started to tear up when she was talking to Drew. She’s like, I’m such a big fan of you. And then Drew gave her a big hug of course and just made her feel lovely. You could tell it was like a really cool encounter. Anyway, that was super cute. And then after they were like kind of wrapping up the show, they filmed Drew and Eric Andre dance to Islands in the Stream and it’s already been posted on social media.
Anne (45m 2s):
So that’s something that they recorded right in front of us. Like it was immediately in front of us.
Ashley (45m 7s):
I know. I was like, were you guys right here for this? Yep.
Anne (45m 10s):
You were. Yeah. Yeah. And I like how they cut it together. It’s really cute. The one thing they didn’t show is that they attempted to do the Worm and Drew when she stood up had like fuzz all over the front of her clothing and she was wearing like this dark blue suit and immediately like all her people came out and were like rolling her, fixing her hair light
Ashley (45m 31s):
Rollers. Yeah.
Anne (45m 32s):
So after the show finished filming, Drew was standing on stage talking to the audience and she was talking about the holidays. And maybe you’ll have a little bit more of a recollection of exactly what she said Anita. But what I remember is that she talked about like whatever form of family you have, she like said that she didn’t have a traditional family growing up. And even with this blended family now she feels like she finally has that feeling surrounding the holidays of like belonging and all this stuff. And when they were talking, Ross and Drew’s hands were like held tight together. It was really sweet.
Anita (46m 5s):
Oh yeah. It was a very like sweet moment.
Anne (46m 8s):
Yeah. Do you remember anything else about what she said in that moment?
Anita (46m 11s):
I mean that was the gist of it and just a lot of talking about how you can, you know, create a family and that that’s what she’s always sought to do is create her own type of family with friends. And then that’s when she mentioned like kind of like the blended family with Allie and Will and the girls. And it was just a very like vulnerable, intimate moment with her sharing like details like that about her life, which I thought was really sweet. Yeah.
Anne (46m 38s):
And it, it was just to the audience, it wasn’t filmed. It was like that’s really cool. Her kind of like talking to us. Yeah. It was very sweet. And we, you know, we see lots of clips of stuff like this on social media so we saw that like,
Ashley (46m 49s):
I mean maybe it will be posted. That’d be pretty
Anne (46m 51s):
Cool. Maybe could be. So then after that happened, Drew approached us again just as the studio was about to start emptying out. So they were about to like kind of start ushering all of the audience members out. But I don’t know if I’m remembering it exactly right, so please correct me if I’m wrong, but she was basically like almost right away. Like, do you know our social media coordinator? Do you remember Anita? Like,
Anita (47m 12s):
So I kind of feel like when she approached us after filming, I think initially it was to thank you once again for the gift and to just kind of like just speak with us. But then she did, she said something like, have you connected with my social media manager? Yeah. And then you were like, like no. And then we’ve tried and there was a little bit of that discussion and then she was like, here come with me. Follow me. Oh
Ashley (47m 37s):
My God you guys,
Anita (47m 39s):
She motioned us with her arm. Yeah. Like with her hand. And then we just started following her backstage and of course there was this, this huge part of me that was like, we’re gonna see her office. Yeah. We’re gonna be like Right. Obviously we didn’t, it would’ve been amazing.
Ashley (47m 54s):
But are you just like, what is happening? What is happening? Oh my gosh. Absolutely. Yes.
Anne (47m 58s):
I feel like she just kind of said like we need to put you in touch. Which was so trippy. So she walks us over there, we kind of enter like the door that’s right at stage Wright. We’re right by where Fabrizio Moretti’s drawing is. And how did we find out? That was a drawing that he did Ashley,
Ashley (48m 16s):
She did some sort of cool feature on the design of the set and mentioned that they didn’t show that that was it, but I think we both were like, oh that’s definitely gotta be the one that has to be it. It’s like something he did in college, which is so cool. Yeah.
Anne (48m 31s):
She instructed basically the social media coordinator to exchange numbers with me.
Ashley (48m 36s):
God amazing.
Anne (48m 36s):
So we did it right there. We did that. And I started to explain to her just so like she knew, like I didn’t know if they’d already talked about it before, like I have no idea. But I started explaining to this social media gal, I said like, okay, we have a massive archive. I have no doubt that we would have useful material to you to use. Drew said something about like she really wants to do flashbacks. She was talking about flashbacks and she mentioned something about like the strike that there’s like certain stuff they know they can’t use.
Yes. Or something. So they’re trying to like yeah. Figure out what content they can use. And I was like interesting. We’ve got con, I think I said something like we’ve got content at the wazoo.
Ashley (49m 13s):
I mean true. That is another one of our slogans. Content up the wazoo.
Anne (49m 17s):
Yes. And then I, again, I don’t know how this came up necessarily, but she said like they have so much and then she said something like kind of to me, but it seemed like an example to her social media gal Drew said, they gave me one of the only pictures I have of my parents that’s hanging in my house.
Ashley (49m 36s):
Oh my God.
Anne (49m 37s):
And then I was like, yeah and that picture might be from when your mother was pregnant with you and she made this like face like she kind of didn’t remember that fact maybe or I don’t know. It was just like, oh
Anita (49m 49s):
It looked like she was about to tear up.
Ashley (49m 50s):
Yeah, well just like when we gave it to her, we love making her cry.
Anne (49m 53s):
And I think she was pregnant when we gave it to her, wasn’t she? Yes.
Ashley (49m 56s):
That was the whole idea. So that’s crazy because that was like nine years ago or something. And I know how touching that she remembered that’s from us.
Anne (50m 4s):
I know. And I almost, there’s always a part of me that’s like, and this is just me, whatever, questioning my own self worth or whatever, but just being like, she doesn’t really remember who I am, you know, like yeah sure that that they’ve just, her people have prepped her and but that moment I was like, oh, she connects this moment with like the drm, you know, which I was like, yes. Like this is exactly what we want. We wanna be like a source for her.
Ashley (50m 27s):
I also just wanna point out like how many times we have like looked in the background of her pictures or videos like are any of the photos we gave her back there? So to hear that she definitely still has one of them up in her house. Yep. Feels so good.
Anne (50m 39s):
I, that’s definitely the most special one
Ashley (50m 41s):
Too. Yeah. Love that moment. That one like really got me teary when you told me that. Yeah.
Anne (50m 47s):
That that was pretty cool. And maybe you remember a little bit more than I do Anita about how the podcast came up. I think I said it out loud.
Anita (50m 55s):
I think you were the first to actually, yes. You. You did. Yeah. Okay.
Anne (50m 59s):
So I said something like, oh, and we have a podcast now. And Drew said, I just learned about it. Holy shit. Yes. And I think she means from the card, ’cause I mentioned it in the card,
Ashley (51m 9s):
Like, can we just take a moment? Like she knows about the pod now. That’s the thing. That’s a real thing. I
Anne (51m 15s):
Know.
Anita (51m 16s):
Can I also mention that I said I’m not Ashley
Anne (51m 19s):
Because every time I said Ashley, they were looking at you. Yeah.
Anita (51m 25s):
Yes. They kept looking over at me and I didn’t really know what to say. So eventually I was just like, I’m not Ashley.
Ashley (51m 31s):
That’s okay. That happened when Jolena and I went and Jolena had to be like, I’m not Anne. She could come.
Anne (51m 37s):
It’s unfortunate we haven’t done it together.
Ashley (51m 41s):
I know we will. We will. Yeah.
Anne (51m 43s):
In that moment I was like, Anita is an old fan and she’s been a fan even longer than I have. Like she’s here with me. And I was like, we met because of you. Like Oh really? Yeah. Yeah.
Anita (51m 52s):
Oh you guys, that’s so cool.
Anne (51m 55s):
But anyway, Drew said something to the effect of like, yeah, I know about it now and we wanna promote it. And I was like, oh my God. I just kind of like, for a second was like, no,
Anita (52m 4s):
Because
Anne (52m 4s):
I was like, that means too many listeners and I have to do a really good job editing now.
Ashley (52m 9s):
Dude, bring it on. I’m ready. I’m ready. I mean, we’ll see, like we, I think we both have this in common and we’re always like, okay, like we’ll see. We’ll just keep doing what we’re doing. We’re not sitting here like, well this is definitely gonna happen, but if it does, yay.
Anne (52m 24s):
Yes. Okay. So just a couple more little tidbits. I was wearing a, a bracelet that was part of the Dear Drew line that she did with Amazon years ago and Drew noticed it. Yes.
Ashley (52m 35s):
I was wondering about that.
Anne (52m 37s):
I, I mean we know that she’s involved in the things that she puts her name on, but I still have a like a thought that maybe they’re like, okay stuff like this. You know? Sure. Like that, that there might be something where it’s like, okay, we know you’re aesthetic now. We’ll just put your name on it. But I just felt like that gave it this like, oh she really did. Like she knows her lines even though it’s years defunct.
Ashley (52m 56s):
Yeah. I feel like she is like sort of a control freak with her lines. So that makes sense. Not in a good way. In a good way. In a good
Anne (53m 3s):
Way. Yes. But I was like, yes, it’s, and she’s like, oh, that’s so cool.
Ashley (53m 5s):
Well she remember when I went she knows that
Anne (53m 8s):
Drew
Ashley (53m 9s):
Necklace on. Yeah, I know.
Anne (53m 10s):
So cool. And then the last thing I was gonna say is that she mentioned that she wants to frame the TT towel we gave her. Oh my god.
Ashley (53m 18s):
I
Anne (53m 18s):
Think she said like she wants to like hang it in her kitchen or she said something like that. Yeah,
Ashley (53m 22s):
That’s what I was envisioning. Like imagine we’re gonna see it in the background. I will die. Oh my gosh. And I’d be so happy for the maker because it was really cool that she worked with us to get it there in time. Totally.
Anne (53m 33s):
Yes. The ending of it was sort of like a blur.
Ashley (53m 37s):
I’m sure there were people trying to like esher her away. Like let’s go. Yeah. We got stuff to do a whole other show to tape
Anne (53m 43s):
And then Yeah. And then we made our way out and we’re just buzzing and we called you right after. So you got our like
Ashley (53m 49s):
Pretty fresh. I know. I was like screaming and crying in my office afterward. My coworker’s like, are you okay? I was like, oh my God. I’ll try to explain what happened. You’re not really gonna get it. But
Anne (53m 59s):
They’re like, what? Wait, why? Why?
Anita (54m 1s):
Okay. Can I mention like a few details that I just remember from the experience?
Anne (54m 6s):
Yes, please do. Please. Anything I left out and anything that specifically impacted you, I wanna hear all of it.
Anita (54m 14s):
Okay. So these are just little things that I think I, like I noticed about her or things that happened. So one was like when she crossed her eyes.
Anne (54m 21s):
Yeah.
Anita (54m 21s):
Like during, I think it was during Drew’s news in that like very typical Drew way. Yes. And I was just like, ah. There it is. Yeah. There was another moment where she was talking about friendship or something and you
and I and we clutched hands. Yeah.
Anne (54m 34s):
And she
Anita (54m 35s):
Did look at us in that moment. Yeah.
Anne (54m 37s):
Sweet.
Anita (54m 38s):
I remember she kind of like looked over while we were doing that and that was a sweet moment. Yeah. When we went kind of like backstage, she was drinking her iced tea. Oh. With like a silicone straw and she kept biting on the straw.
Ashley (54m 51s):
Oh my gosh.
Anita (54m 52s):
And I, I thought it was really cute. I just kept noticing because I wasn’t talking. Yes. Like for the most part. You and she were talking and like kind of talking about the ze and the podcast and so I felt like an observer and I was taking in a lot of these little like moments and things that were happening. Oh my gosh. And I just remember her chewing on this straw
Ashley (55m 10s):
Dude Anita. You know, we love these tidbits of these. Yes. This is awesome.
Anne (55m 14s):
Yes.
Anita (55m 14s):
Her shoes were really cool.
Anne (55m 17s):
Yeah, they were, they
Anita (55m 19s):
Were like platform heels kind of. And they were like a navy blue or black, like red polka dots. At first I thought
they were hearts.
Ashley (55m 26s):
You know what’s so funny is that I’ve noticed them on the floor of the wardrobe room a lot. Her stylist Lee will like post a picture in, in the mirror every day. And one time I was like, I love those shoes on the ground. I already had my eyes on them.
Anita (55m 40s):
Yeah. They were really beautiful. And I also noticed that a lot of the times when she would approach us or talk to us or like make eye contact, I would kind of like briefly look around after. And I could definitely see that a lot of people in the audience were like, why them? Yeah.
Anne (55m 54s):
We were,
Ashley (55m 54s):
They we, we have felt that vibe many a time where we’re like, Carrie, sorry, not sorry. I guess
Anne (56m 1s):
I’m also thinking a little bit like why me? How did I get this experience? But in a
Anita (56m 5s):
Good way. Yeah, exactly.
Ashley (56m 7s):
Well we’ve worked really hard for these moments so I’ll just say that. Yes.
Anita (56m 12s):
Yeah, for
Ashley (56m 12s):
Sure. Luck.
Anne (56m 13s):
And I also just, I have to express like I still feel very lucky even though there has been this like path sort of laid in advance. Like I think something I wrote in my journal when I was writing about it is like I’m so, I feel so grateful to have like built these connections over the years. It’s not, not just like I just came in there, had a the right vibe and she walked up to it. It’s like it’s not, and it’s not about like the length of the fandom ’cause it’s like, you know, somebody in that audience could have been again like a fan from ET era and we’re just
like absolutely lucky as hell to have like built this and you know, like, and there. And I think the other thing that I love that you said Anita, when you kind of came out of the experience, you’re like, Drew’s just human.
Anita (56m 58s):
Exactly. I feel like obviously it was an amazing experience. I’m so grateful to have had it. But I think sometimes when we meet our idols, this a really amazing thing is to realize like they’re just a person. Totally. And for some people I think that that’s a letdown, but for me it made it even more special.
Ashley (57m 18s):
Yeah. I think that’s one of the things that we’re drawn to about her is that she has flaws. Exactly. And she’s very vulnerable and open about those things. So she’s more relatable that way.
Anita (57m 27s):
Exactly. Oh, and another cool moment that we didn’t mention Yes. Is the first time that she came over to hug us. She had the like sparkle or whatever on her nose. Oh. And we were both like, oh you, well you actually first said you’ve got something on your nose. And she was like, where? And kind of did that look where you’re like kind of trying to look down at your nose to like see what’s on it.
Ashley (57m 47s):
Oh my gosh.
Anita (57m 48s):
We both like pointed to where it was. Yeah. And then she like brushed it off and she was like, thank you. Amazing.
Ashley (57m 53s):
Oh
Anita (57m 53s):
My gosh, that was a great moment.
Anne (57m 57s):
It probably came off of like one of our clothes or something. I think it was right on the tip of her cute little nose.
Anita (58m 2s): How sweet
Ashley (58m 2s):
Did you get to sort of see her in producer mode? Because that was one of the things I thought was so cool when I went to a taping was like I’d never really seen her on a set and how she like works. And it was really cool to see her like sort of be like down to business and being the boss and stuff. Did you get to see that at all?
Anne (58m 20s):
I feel like, I feel like it’s a very well-oiled machine. Yes. And she’s got like a lot of staff doing like very specific jobs. Like I feel like it was a very professional set while also feeling very warm. Like there was a lot of lovely comradery amongst the the like crew. Didn’t you kind of feel that Anita like
Anita (58m 39s):
Absolutely. I feel like probably at the beginning when the chauffeur started, I think that that producer hat was probably on more until they kind of like, you know what I mean? They kind of worked out the kinks. Yeah.
And Now, they know how things flow and how Drew wants things.
Ashley (58m 54s):
Cool. That makes sense.
Anne (58m 56s):
Yeah. Yeah. And like you mentioned sort of the control freak thing around her brands. Like it might be like she found the people she trusts to get the job done. Yeah.
Anita (59m 5s):
For sure.
Anne (59m 5s):
But yeah, I didn’t really see that. But there is that thing of like, okay, just tell me where I need to be and I’m gonna be there. Like she’s there with bells on. We saw that like excitement.
Anita (59m 13s):
Yes. So, and like a couple other things that I’m just remembering right now Yes. Is that her photographer who was on set was taking photos while Anne and I were talking with her backstage.
Ashley (59m 24s):
Yes, that’s right. We’re hoping to get some copies of those, but hopefully by the time this airs.
Anita (59m 29s):
Yes. Yeah. That would be amazing. And then she also, during the Lisa Ling segment was, I mean you’ll hear this obviously and see this when you watch the show, the episode, but she was talking about how she went
on a date with like a veteran. Oh yeah. And he was talking about his experience with Shrooms and how great they were for his like post-traumatic stress disorder.
Ashley (59m 48s):
That’s interesting.
Anita (59m 50s):
And how they stay in touch and they do speak and like text back and forth from time to time. But they like did obviously it didn’t turn into a relationship.
Ashley (59m 59s):
Wow.
Anne (59m 59s):
Yeah. That was interesting. I, I forgot about that. But yeah, she, yeah, she did say she’s very interested in his experience. So that was, that was really cool.
Anita (1h 0m 7s):
Yes.
Anne (1h 0m 7s):
Okay. I’m sure that there’s gonna be like little memories that’ll pop up, but that was our experience of the Drew Barrymore show.
Ashley (1h 0m 14s):
Incredible. Yeah. I can’t even really be jealous ’cause I was just so excited and happy for you guys. Aw. And as it was happening, I guess I should mention this. Yeah. Like I knew, I knew you met the dogs and all that, but then once you guys went in, you know you can’t use your phones at all. Yes. Obviously I’m just for the listeners. Yeah.
Anne (1h 0m 31s):
We had to turn ’em off. So I was just
Ashley (1h 0m 33s):
Like radio silence, like, oh my God, what’s happening? What’s happening? And then I get a message from Tony Crago, a photo of you guys talking to Drew!
Anne (1h 0m 39s): That was so cool.
Anita (1h 0m 41s):
Yeah. I wish I looked less like,
Ashley (1h 0m 44s):
Well weird you were excited that it comes through, but I like, as soon as I saw it I was just like, oh my God. And just so happy for you guys. Yeah. Like it’s happening.
Anita (1h 0m 55s):
Yeah. I just love that there’s photographic evidence that I met her.
Anne (1h 0m 58s):
I know. Yeah. Like if we get nothing else, how cool that we got that.
Anita (1h 1m 2s):
Exactly. Absolutely.
Anne (1h 1m 3s):
The one thing I’ll say about the photo and we can probably share it in the episode page ’cause why not? Sure. There’s a something crazy happening with my hand in Drew’s hand. You just gotta see it.
Ashley (1h 1m 18s):
They’re inter meshing. Yeah.
Anne (1h 1m 19s):
We’re like about to hold hands, but I like have my hand open and hers is like trying to grab my palm. It’s very funny.
Anita (1h 1m 25s):
Yeah.
Anne (1h 1m 26s):
So yeah, there was our magic most recent for me encounter with Ms. Drew
Ashley (1h 1m 32s):
My first Congratulations you guys so cool.
Anita (1h 1m 35s):
My first and most likely only encounter,
Ashley (1h 1m 37s):
But you know. Well it’s a pretty good one.
Anne (1h 1m 39s):
I’d say. So. It
Ashley (1h 1m 41s):
Was amazing. You’re only gonna do one that was the right way. Yeah, absolutely.
Anne (1h 1m 44s):
Okay, so anything else for the end of the show, Ash?
Ashley (1h 1m 49s):
Someone’s ready for me to be done.
Anne (1h 1m 53s):
Okay. I wanna make sure we have a big thank you to Anita for joining us. Thank you so much.
Ashley (1h 1m 60s):
Yes, thank you Anita.
Anita (1h 2m 1s):
Oh, thank you so much for having me.
Anne (1h 2m 4s):
Yes. And thank you for coming to New York with me. Yeah. And then agreeing to of course, spend another hour of your time while L is fussing. No, of
Anita (1h 2m 12s):
Course.
Anne (1h 2m 13s):
I so appreciate it. And yeah, this is really exciting. I feel like it’s a nice, like potential step forward for the pod for this relationship to continue.
Ashley (1h 2m 22s):
Ooh, stay tuned on that one. Yes. We’ll be
Anne (1h 2m 25s):
Absolutely
Ashley (1h 2m 27s):
Yes. So thank you guys. If you do wanna do your own part to help grow the pod, you can subscribe, you can review us on Apple Podcasts, we’ll read it on the air. You can leave ratings on Apple and Spotify and you can follow us on Instagram at How Do You Drew pod and at Drewseum. And we’ll share some stuff for this episode. So you’re gonna wanna be looking
Anne (1h 2m 51s):
Yes. And also don’t forget to subscribe to our Patreon. Find us there at How Do You Drew. Visit our website at How Do You Drew dot com. Check out the episode page for this week for a couple tidbits and little insights into our experience at the Drew Barrymore Show. And send listener mail to How Do You Drew [email protected]. Tell us you know what you love about the show. Send us an email after you watch and let us know if you spot us.
Ashley (1h 3m 16s):
Yeah, I love that. It’s gonna air so soon. That’s so
Anne (1h 3m 19s):
Exciting. Yes. Once again, the episode will air on the 22nd of November and I’m guessing it’s up on the, up on YouTube like the next day.
Ashley (1h 3m 25s):
Sometimes same day. Oh,
Anne (1h 3m 27s):
Cool. And then I’m gonna do a little question to take us out. I, oh, what’s your favorite Thanksgiving side dish?
Ashley (1h 3m 33s):
It’s gotta be food. I’m a, I’m a stuffing girl.
Anne (1h 3m 38s):
Oh, okay. What about you Anita?
Anita (1h 3m 40s):
It’s most likely, I would have to say stuffings a close second, but mashed potatoes.
Ashley (1h 3m 45s):
Oh yeah, that would be my number two. Yeah.
Anita (1h 3m 48s):
I love the curb.
Anne (1h 3m 50s):
Yeah. I mean
Ashley (1h 3m 51s):
Carbs and starch. Yeah.
Anne (1h 3m 53s):
And I would like mash all those things together. But I’m just gonna say my favorite is canned cranberry sauce. No, not the bunny. But part of the reason why is ’cause I feel like I have, it cracks me up so much to pull it out of the can and slice it and then smash it with all the rest of my food.
Ashley (1h 4m 9s):
No. Yeah. I made fresh cranberry sauce yesterday. Yeah. And I promise if you had that you would’ve been like, no more can.
Anne (1h 4m 16s):
No, I’ve, I’ve had lots of different stuff.
Anita (1h 4m 19s):
I’m with you Anne. I like the cans, but
Anne (1h 4m 22s):
It’s, it’s just one of those, it’s so nostalgic and I, when I have cranberry sauce that is like textured, I’m like, this tastes good. But I almost want the weird hand stuff back. Alright, thank you again. Thank you everybody for tuning in and hearing all our excitement about this past week’s fun, fun stuff. And we’ll see you next Drewsday.
Ashley (1h 4m 40s): Thank you. Bye-Bye
Anita (1h 4m 42s): Bye.
Anne (1h 4m 43s):
This episode of the How Do You Drew podcast was researched and produced by Ashley and Anne from thedrewseum.com with help from our sponsor, Positive Medium.
Ashley (1h 5m 5s):
Special thanks to Matt Costa for our lovely theme song, Roxy Prima, for our adorable logo. And last but not least, Drew, Barrymore and all the Drewbies who love her, we do this for you. Thank you.
Anne (1h 5m 16s): Thank you.
Ashley (22s):
Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew.
Anne (26s):
This is A Drew Barrymore Podcast, brought to you by the Drewseum dot com
Ashley (30s):
And sponsored by our friends at Positive Medium.
Anne (33s):
I am Anne.
Ashley (34s):
And I’m Ashley. Before we get into anything, my daughter has a friend over and I was like, okay, I’m gonna go record. And she’s like, oh yeah, you have a podcast. What’s it about? And Milla goes, it’s just about this like famous girl she likes. I was like, wow.
Anne (52s):
But would her friend know who that is?
Ashley (54s):
I don’t know. I wasn’t in the room anymore and I was busy, so I didn’t care. I just thought it was interesting,
Anne (1m 1s):
This famous girl that she likes.
Ashley (1m 4s):
I mean, it’s true.
Anne (1m 5s):
I love how like nonchalant that is. Yeah. Your 14 year old.
Ashley (1m 11s):
Yeah, 14 now.
Anne (1m 13s):
Holy. Shit.
Ashley (1m 14s):
I know. Really crazy. When we started this podcast, she wasn’t even a teenager yet. That’s pretty weird.
Anne (1m 14s):
Whoa! That is weird.
Ashley (1m 24s):
Yeah, I know. All right, let’s get down to business. Okay. I wanna give a shout out to our two newest Patreon members. Woo. Julie and our wonderful friend Tess. Hi guys. And thank you.
Anne (1m 29s):
Thank you Julie and Tess. So happy to have you. We will have some fun things for you, I promise. And if you wanna become a patron, go to patreon.com/howdoyouDrew.
Ashley (1m 49s):
Yeah. Yeah. $1 a month. Guys, that’s nothing.
Anne (1m 52s):
It’s nothing. Gotta break down to how many cents that is per day. It’s like 3 cents. Okay, so what do you got for us?
Ashley (1m 60s):
Okay. I kind of put this under follow ups because we had our ranking of our, so we ranked Drew’s performances, like our favorites of Drew’s performances once. Anyway, Entertainment Weekly just came out with a ranking of her 17 best movies and TV shows. I’m not sure why 17. It’s like such an arbitrary number.
Anne (2m 20s):
It is.
Ashley (2m 21s):
And this wasn’t for performances, for what I could tell, it was just the movies or TV shows themselves. Yeah. So I shared it on our Drewseum Instagram @drewseum and it was pretty fun to see a lot of reactions and responses from people who were like, where’s this movie? Where’s this movie? Or this should have been higher. So it was kind of fun. We’ll definitely share it. I’m curious like what were your thoughts on this list?
Anne (2m 45s):
When I went over it I was like, this is too hard for me. Yeah. Like even just us doing what we did, like it was too hard, but I didn’t notice the glaring things that were missing. Okay. I did notice that like some of our favorites are towards the top. Like I wasn’t surprised that like Ever After, I mean, I kind of was a little bit surprised that Ever After is up there, even though we love it.
Ashley (3m 7s):
Yeah.
Anne (3m 8s):
I don’t know. I don’t know.
Ashley (3m 10s):
I was surprised as I was scrolling and I’m like, okay, obviously ET right? And I’m like, yeah, ET is number two. What the heck is number one? Like I could not think of what it was gonna be. Yeah. And then it was Grey Gardens and I was like, oh, okay. But like funny how I just totally forgot about that. It didn’t even cross my mind.
Anne (3m 29s):
Yeah. Yeah. Because I don’t, isn’t there something weird about like how, and maybe it’s about like when things came out. Yeah,
Ashley (3m 36s):
I think that’s part of it.
Anne (3m 37s):
It’s almost like what we think as like our favorite things also have like it have to do with our formative nature of our fandom. Right? Yeah. And Grey Gardens being on there, it’s like, we’re like, yeah, of course. But we already knew she was great by then. You know? It’s
Ashley (3m 49s):
Like, yeah, I was, I was surprised to see Firestarter and Irreconcilable Differences, even though they were the like bottom two. I was sort of like, I feel like Mad Love or Boys on the Side is both of those are better than those films.
Anne (4m 4s):
It’s interesting for within 17 movies to not have Mad Love, at least make an appearance. It’s surprising. Yeah. And you made a good point that Music and Lyrics seems way too high.
Ashley (4m 18s):
Yeah,
Anne (4m 19s):
I agreed That’s, that’s not a favorite of ours
Ashley (4m 22s):
And I don’t think it’s a better movie than Whip It or Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, like objectively. I just don’t think anybody would agree with that personally. I
Anne (4m 30s):
Guess I didn’t look at like the research whose ranking was this, you know? Yeah.
Ashley (4m 34s):
I think it was just one journalist.
Anne (4m 36s):
Okay.
Ashley (4m 37s):
Anyway,
Anne (4m 38s):
It’s fun to think about and I’m glad that we had some fun in our social media with it, so that’s great. Yeah,
Ashley (4m 43s):
We sure did. Thanks everybody for contributing and chiming in. That was, I was like, whoa, we got so much more of a response than I expected. It’s fun to see all those opinions.
Anne (4m 52s):
Yes. All right. What else you got?
Ashley (4m 54s):
This is sort of a follow up as well about Drew’s arm tattoo with the sardines, but on The Drew Barrymore Show, on Drew’s News, they were doing a story about people who name their homes. And Ross I guess has like a fancy one for his house. And so Drew realized that she had something that she could call her home and I thought we could play the audio.
Drew (5m 17s):
Welcome to Chez Sardine. It’s the hottest club in town. It’s so exclusive. It only has three members. Oh, it is open tonight. This is what you do to the girls. Yeah. This is my routine with the girls. Oh, cute. She sardine.
Anne (5m 35s): Chez Sardine
Ashley (5m 36s):
Chez Sardine. And of course this ties back to Drew’s tattoo because she got the three sardines on her arm in honor of her and her daughters being snuggled up in bit together. Super
Anne (5m 47s):
Cute. Yeah, super cute. I love it. It’s so Drew in the perfect way. Yep.
Ashley (5m 53s):
This is super random and it doesn’t really fall under any category, but I wanted to bring it up.
Anne (5m 58s):
Okay.
Ashley (5m 59s):
So you know, obviously that The Adventures of Con Sawyer and HuckleMary Finn, this TV movie that Drew did in 1985 is like the most obscure thing she’s ever done, right? Yeah. Like no one’s seen it. You can’t find it anywhere. It’s just one of those weird sort of lost in time things. It was never released on video. Yeah. So anyway, frequent writing in person Christian a while ago, he found half of it on I think the internet archive.
Anne (6m 30s):
Oh.
Ashley (6m 30s):
So it had apparently like reran in 93 or 94 and somebody had taped it then, which I love because it has all the commercials and it, I remember a lot of them.
Anne (6m 41s):
Oh my God, that’s cool.
Ashley (6m 44s):
But yeah, so it’s just the first half and it’s literally half an hour. So I guess the entire thing is only an hour with commercials, so it’s really short.
Anne (6m 54s):
Okay.
Ashley (6m 55s):
So I kind of had forgotten about it. He had sent it to us and I saved it in our drive. And then somebody out of the blue left us a comment on one of our episode pages asking about it and saying like they’d never, they
could never find it. Oh. And so anyway, it took me down this rabbit hole and I was like, oh my God, I have to watch this thing. It’s not great quality, but it’s there. It’s viewable and Wow. Is it bad?
Anne (7m 20s):
Oh my god.
Ashley (7m 21s):
It’s bad.
Anne (7m 22s):
Do you have like one printed photo from it or something?
Ashley (7m 22s):
I have a couple. I have quite a few press photos. Yeah. Okay. The press photos are out there.
Anne (7m 30s):
Yeah. But that’s so cool.
Ashley (7m 33s):
You need to watch it. It’s like painful. It’s like a lot of the stuff from the eighties where I’m just like, why? What was wrong with people? It’s just rough. I don’t know. I kind wanted you to watch it and then we’ll talk about it at another episode. Let’s do that.
Anne (7m 43s):
Sounds good. Is it possible that for us to link on the episode page?
Ashley (7m 51s):
Yeah, we could. The first half hour of this video is like Winnie the Pooh. So you have to go, you have to scroll halfway through.
Anne (7m 59s):
Oh, okay.
Ashley (7m 60s):
A little heads up.
Anne (8m 2s):
Okay. So since the show’s back, we’ve got to hear all about the things that Drew has passion for. Can you tell me what Drew loved this past week?
Drew (8m 13s):
I love, love.
Ashley (8m 15s):
Okay. This week Drew loves a periodical.
Anne (8m 15s):
Oh yeah.
Ashley (8m 20s):
Martha Stewart. Old News, we know that. Comedy obviously. Being with her friends again, obviously. The two girls club. And I’m a member of that too. Being a mom of two girls, so high five Drew.
Anne (8m 35s):
That’s right.
Ashley (8m 37s):
Cher, exactly as she is.
Anne (8m 41s):
That’s so great.
Ashley (8m 42s):
And I told you when I was watching them talk about Cher, Drew was trying to do an impression of her and saying she couldn’t do it. Yes. And I was dying because she impersonates her at the beginning of SNL in 1999.
Anne (8m 53s):
Yes. It’s my own design.
Ashley (8m 57s):
Thank you. I was hoping you would do that. And then lastly, we got some food things. Drew loves butter, cherry and peach.
Anne (9m 6s): Oh, me too.
Ashley (9m 7s):
Oh yeah. Good combos.
Anne (9m 8s):
All those together.
Ashley (9m 9s):
Ooh, why not
Anne (9m 11s):
Melted into like a crumble
Ashley (9m 13s):
A pie. Yes, A crumble. Oh,
Anne (9m 16s):
We always come back to food.
Ashley (9m 18s):
Always.
Anne (9m 20s):
You know, you might’ve heard us complain a little bit about how many recipes there were in Drew magazine, but I think we actually secretly are completely on board for that.
Ashley (9m 29s):
Good point. Good point.
Anne (9m 30s):
All right. So what did you pull for this week in Drew history?
Ashley (9m 34s):
All right, let’s go to November 18th. Hey, that’s Joalena’s birthday, in the year 2000.
Anne (9m 43s):
Alright.
Ashley (9m 44s):
So this is funny because this kind of came up recently because we had that Pauly Shore doing like a weird fake proposal to Drew on her show.
Anne (9m 52s):
Yes.
Ashley (9m 53s):
So I got flashbacks to this one. So when I saw that this is like this week, I’m like, we gotta talk about it. So let’s talk about Tom Green hosting Saturday Night Live and Drew of course being in attendance
Anne (10m 8s):
And
Ashley (10m 8s):
He pulled her on stage and said that they were gonna get married at the end of the show live right there. Do you remember watching this?
Anne (10m 17s):
Old prankster. Oh my God. Very well. Yeah. I also am still a little bit confused if it was like actually supposed to happen because they have like, they show her in a dress, they show her friends there, her actual friends.
Ashley (10m 32s):
Yeah. So we had Nancy Juvonen and Jillian Fink. Jillian Dempsey now. Yeah. They were there with Drew in the audience and then they’re backstage with Molly Shannon all in bridesmaid’s dresses and that whatever that gown is that Drew’s wearing. Oh my God, sorry. But it’s ugly.
Anne (10m 52s):
It’s old fashioned. I think it’s kind of cute. But what I remember is that on, I guess The Grapevine. Yeah. It had to be The Grapevine. Yeah. We like, people were like, I don’t understand, was it a joke?
Ashley (11m 5s):
Like I think we were chiming in like live while people were watching it. Like I remember being like, oh my gosh, they just showed her backstage like is this really happening? Like what’s going on? My takeaway these days is it was never gonna be real, but they really played it up like throughout the show, making it seem like it was gonna happen. And then so anybody who doesn’t isn’t familiar at the very end, Tom’s alone on stage, Drew never comes. And it just credits roll while he’s go like yelling her name.
Anne (11m 35s):
I bet it was probably just like Tom’s idea. They thought it was hilarious. Oh yeah, for sure. When did they actually get married?
Ashley (11m 42s):
So it would’ve been like eight months later.
Anne (11m 44s):
Okay. But yes, I remember that classic, classic. I love how 2000 her outfit is by the way.
Ashley (11m 52s):
Oh, I totally had a top that I’m like, oh, I must’ve been inspired by this. Like
Anne (11m 56s):
Yeah, not the ugly dress
Ashley (11m 57s):
So similar. No, not the ugly dress, the striped top. Yeah.
Anne (12m 0s):
But it’s like striped top low like. Yeah. Low rise pants.
Ashley (12m 5s):
Actually I’m almost like, are those the same black pants she wore to the Titan AE premiere a few months before where her
Anne (12m 11s):
Probably
Ashley (12m 12s):
Thong straps were showing And she’s got that like super skinny belt. It’s like a chain. Yeah.
Anne (12m 18s):
It’s not really a functional belt. Oh.
Ashley (12m 20s):
But she looks so pretty and
Anne (12m 21s):
She does look really pretty
Ashley (12m 23s):
Crazy how young she is. Just a little baby.
Anne (12m 26s):
She’s got her dark brown hair. Anyway, that was hilarious. That was a good pull. And yeah, it’s funny that it just came up. What’s new with Drew this week?
Ashley (12m 35s):
I didn’t get a chance to do a lot of watching on the show. I’m a little behind this week, so sorry, we’ll catch up next week. But I thought this was cool. So Tallulah Willis, who is Bruce Willis and Demi Moore’s daughter.
She came on the show, I guess it was her first interview ever. Oh. And they had a really great conversation talking about rehab and like having your story about that broken without your consent. I guess a nurse when Tallulah was in rehab, broke the story.
Anne (13m 7s):
Oh
Ashley (13m 7s):
Yeah. They also both talked about how like sharing it afterward to help others and then sort of like how they both know that they have a privileged life but that doesn’t, like, does that mean you can’t complain and like dealing with that. Wow. Yeah, it was really cool. Definitely worth watching. She was a like a lovely person. I, I was really impressed by her. And then I thought this was just kind of a fun random Drew shared a term called Barr-anoia and I guess her dad coined about Barrymore slash paranoia. So like I think there’s a guy up in the tree watching me that That’s crazy. It can’t be, oh no.
Ashley (13m 47s):
There actually is like a paparazzi guy in the tree. That was Drew’s example.
Anne (13m 52s):
Barr-aranoia.
Ashley (13m 54s):
I know. I’ve never heard her say that. So I just was like neither. We have to mention that.
Anne (13m 58s):
I love that her dad coined that I, I feel like every time, but every time we hear some little tidbit of something her dad said like he clearly was just like spouting just hilarious, crazy stuff all the time.
Ashley (14m 10s):
Yeah, he definitely had a way with words.
Anne (14m 13s):
Yeah, totally
Ashley (14m 14s):
Kick that bag man. Yeah.
Anne (14m 18s):
Alright, what else do you got for this week?
Ashley (14m 20s):
And then just the other night, Drew appeared at a 10 year anniversary for Garnier’s Micellar makeup remover that they have that she’s been praising for years and years and years. Way before she was officially like associated with them. Yeah. It looked like maybe they did some kind of a panel. It looked like they were filming like a bunch of segments. I don’t think it was for her show, but it was at the CBS Broadcast Center.
It’s a little confusing. I’m not sure what it was. Okay. She also did the makeup removal of a drag queen called Blue Hydrangea. So it just looked really fun. She looked beautiful and hopefully we know more soon, hopefully we get to see like footage of this. Yeah.
Anne (14m 59s):
And she did look really cute.
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Anne (16m 25s):
Every we ready to get into this weekly topic?
Ashley (16m 27s):
Yeah, let’s do it Magazine time. We haven’t done this in a while ’cause we also love a periodical or two. Yes.
Anne (16m 33s):
Yes we do. Or two or many, many more. Okay. So we are going to do two magazines today. Woohoo.
Ashley (16m 41s):
First time ever.
Anne (16m 43s):
Yes. We’re going to do two magazines that are from both from 2005, both from United Kingdom, both large format, both have different photographer duos or the same one?
Ashley (16m 55s):
Different photographer duos. Both were taken by duos of photographers, random. This is so cool. Yeah.
Anne (17m 1s):
Both are like, is it all full pages in each issue? So cool. When we, when we say full pages, we mean the photograph takes up the whole page, which is like, and
Ashley (17m 11s):
This is big. These are big magazines. Yes.
Anne (17m 14s):
And they both have really unique and rad makeup looks done by Gucci Westman.
Ashley (17m 20s):
Aha. So Gucci is a longtime friend of Drew’s. They’ve worked together a lot and we were lucky enough to get
a couple quotes from her to include in this episode that she provided to us exclusively. So cool.
Anne (17m 34s):
Yay. So cool. Gucci told us, “every time I worked with Drew, she was always game to go for it. It was always so fun to work with her. ”
Ashley (17m 44s):
Yeah. Sounds
Anne (17m 44s):
Just like what a lot of people say about her.
Ashley (17m 46s):
That’s so true.
Anne (17m 48s):
I love that. And we also wanted to make sure we plugged Gucci’s Beauty line, Westman Atelier and make sure you check her out on Instagram @GucciWestman. That’s how we got ahold of her. So thank you.
Ashley (17m 60s):
Thank you. And we’ll have a couple more quotes from her as we go along. More specific to each shoot.
Anne (18m 5s):
Yes, we will. So cool.
Ashley (18m 7s):
Yeah. So let’s start with AnOther Magazine, which is the spring summer 2005 issue. The interview was done by Alex Brown and the photography is by the duo Inez Van Lamsweerde
Anne (18m 22s):
And Vinoodh Matadin. They’re both very unique names.
Ashley (18m 26s):
Yeah. Sorry. I’m sure we butchered them.
Anne (18m 29s):
I had to just step in here and help you out a little bit.
Ashley (18m 32s):
I think sometimes they just go by Inez and Vinoodh.
Anne (18m 36s):
The Hair was done by Kevin Ryan who also worked with Drew on the Vs magazine from 2009 with Ellen Von Unwerth for the Whip It kind of themed shoot.
Ashley (18m 46s):
Which is one of my faves. Yes.
Anne (18m 50s):
The makeup Gucci Westman, as mentioned. Styling was done by Alistair Mackey. Ooh. And I love the little tidbit you pulled here. So the nails were done by Deborah Lippman, who also worked with Drew on Mirabella in 1995.
Ashley (19m 3s):
Yeah. And I think something else that we don’t have at our records, because I noticed I was following her on Instagram already under our account. Oh weird. And so maybe something more recent that she did with her. So that’s really fun.
Anne (19m 15s):
I like how she’s Lippman, but she does nails.
Ashley (19m 20s):
Should be nail woman. Good one. Okay. So Gucci’s exclusive quote to us about this shoot was, “I was inspired by the Charlie’s Angels era with the metallic eye. A lot of blush, top lip, gloss, color, more polished, done and lush.” Love that.
Anne (19m 40s):
Absolutely.
Ashley (19m 41s):
And it really does have that kind of like metallic, glossy vibe to it. The makeup in a lot of these shots.
Anne (19m 47s):
Yeah, it does. Do we wanna get into them a little bit and kind of try to describe these beautiful, beautiful pictures?
Ashley (19m 54s):
Yeah. So both of these have quite a bit. I don’t know that we could sit here and go beat by beat on every
single one of them.
Anne (20m 2s):
Yeah. I guess let’s describe the cover a little bit. So that description, that kind of like metallic eye blush, you know, taupe lips, lip gloss, that’s like, I feel like she’s pretty much describing the cover there.
Ashley (20m 16s):
Yeah. And maybe like the last photo too.
Anne (20m 18s):
Yep. And then there is, okay. My favorite one, even though there are those other ones,
Ashley (20m 22s):
I know what it is.
Anne (20m 25s):
There’s one photo of the back of Drew’s head.
Ashley (20m 28s):
Yeah. Why is it so beautiful and special? That picture? I love it too.
Anne (20m 32s):
I don’t know. And I think I’ve told you that I have a friend who’s an artist, Michelle Blade and she at one point had a painting that she did of this picture in an exhibit.
Ashley (20m 45s):
Oh yeah.
Anne (20m 45s):
And I’ve since asked her like, do you still have that? Like I would would totally love to have it. And she can’t find it.
Ashley (20m 50s):
Oh no.
Anne (20m 50s):
But it was so neat to be like, oh I know that picture. And she was just like, oh yeah, I just loved it. I just pulled it out of a magazine and painted it. I was like, that’s so cool.
Ashley (20m 57s):
That’s such a cool coincidence.
Anne (20m 59s):
Yeah, I know. And those three in the white dress, there’s something so cool about them.
Ashley (21m 3s):
I know. It’s like very vintage-y looking like old vintagey.
Anne (21m 8s):
Yeah. Like almost like turn of the century. Yes. In a weird way. Or like Victorian.
Ashley (21m 13s):
Yep. Yep. And like love that. She’s just like screaming at the sky. Amazing.
Anne (21m 18s):
Yeah, they’re so good. The pictures in this have like a different feeling from picture to picture in a really cool way.
Ashley (21m 23s):
Yeah, I would agree with that. We have finally gotten our scans of fees up on our websites somehow. We lost all of our 2005 magazine files.
Anne (21m 33s):
Ugh.
Ashley (21m 33s):
Just that year. Don’t know why. Don’t know where they went. I’m talking about our digital versions.
Anne (21m 38s):
Yep.
Ashley (21m 38s):
And these are like we said, very oversized and difficult to scan. But yes, we finally got around to it. So you can go on either the episode page or on thedrewseum.com/2005mags and see all of these beautiful photos.
Anne (21m 54s):
Yes. And I would highly recommend it. They’re gorgeous.
Ashley (21m 58s):
Yes. So interestingly enough, the cover image and then one of the inside photos were used in a Lancome campaign that was actually tied in with Gucci, that Drew starred in. And this was in the second set of ads that were released in fall 2005. So they recycled those photos.
Anne (22m 16s):
Yes they did. And I, I’m sure I remembered that at the time. But looking at the again, they’ve changed them up just enough. Yeah. That they’re unrecognizable.
Ashley (22m 25s):
Like you wouldn’t know unless you knew.
Anne (22m 28s):
Yeah. I never, I don’t think I’ve seen these beautiful outtakes.
Ashley (22m 31s):
Oh my gosh. They’re stunning.
Anne (22m 34s):
They’re so stunning. Are they like any of the other ones that were printed maybe like that one that’s her face closeup across two pages.
Ashley (22m 42s):
Yeah. The very last picture. She’s in the same striped top.
Anne (22m 46s):
Okay, got it. Those are the only outtakes we have?
Ashley (22m 50s):
Yep. Sadly only two. But again, we will share those on the episode page. They’re gorgeous. You have to check ’em out.
Anne (22m 56s):
Yes they are.
Ashley (22m 57s):
She looks a lot blonder in those than the other ones.
Anne (23m 0s):
Yeah, she does weirdly. Huh. I’m gonna jump in and summarize the article for us a little bit.
Ashley (23m 7s):
Let’s do
Anne (23m 7s):
It. So even though it was a bit short, it’s pretty cool. So in the article by Alex Brown, it first mentions her age, which I realize like I feel like so many magazines like start by talking about her age.
Ashley (23m 21s):
Yeah.
Anne (23m 21s):
It’s kind of a weird thing
Ashley (23m 22s):
Probably ’cause her age is always sort of off. Like it always feels confusing. Like she either feels too old or too young for that age.
Anne (23m 29s):
That’s a good point. Yeah. Usually they’re saying like, here are the achievements, can you believe it?
Ashley (23m 34s):
Yes.
Anne (23m 34s):
So she was 30 years old at the time, which oddly enough in retrospect, like it feels young. Of course.
Ashley (23m 40s):
Very
Anne (23m 40s):
At the time the Confederacy of Dunces was still in the works.
Ashley (23m 44s):
Yeah. I thought that was fun. I, I forgot about that. Wasn’t Will Ferrell gonna be in that with her?
Anne (23m 50s):
I don’t really remember many details about it.
Ashley (23m 53s):
That’s what I remember.
Anne (23m 53s):
I just remember it was floating around forever. And then it goes on for a while about quantum physics, which I found kind of funny. Drew says she has her pom-poms on right now about quantum physics.
Ashley (24m 5s):
That’s a good Drewism.
Anne (24m 6s):
Yeah, I know. It’s cute. She says her boyfriend who they don’t name. But at the time it was Fab and his father are well-versed in quantum physics, which got her interested in it. She saw the movie What the Bleep Do We Know and loved it. And I liked this quote she said about it, there was a lot of like kind of fun conversation around this. But she said there’s something very empowering about the idea that you are the conductor of your own destiny.
Ashley (24m 31s):
Oh, that’s so true. Huh.
Anne (24m 32s):
Yeah. And I also was like, yes, I feel like that’s like a theme of my life right now. Oh
Ashley (24m 37s):
That’s awesome. Can I just jump in? Yeah. Are you familiar with that crazy sex cult Nxivm that had like a bunch of people?
Anne (24m 44s):
A little bit. Okay. What what about it?
Ashley (24m 47s):
The director of what the Bleep Do We Know was really involved with it and one of the ones who like turned and got a bunch of people out and like took it down.
Anne (24m 57s): Whoa.
Ashley (24m 58s):
There’s a really interesting documentary on HBO called The Vow about it. And that’s why I know.
Anne (25m 4s):
Oh, interesting.
Ashley (25m 6s):
Anyway,I just had to mention that.
Anne (25m 7s):
Just a little side note. In the article they also talk about Best Place to Start though they don’t name it. They just say when you were working on your documentary and if you don’t know it’s her documentary when she’s kind of like learning about politics and voting. ’cause she’d always felt like she felt stupid whenever that conversation came up. This is kind of an interesting thing ’cause she’s like, she wanted to talk about politics in a way that people could understand since she was also learning. So she kind of wanted to be honest about that. She, she was kind of comparing how she did that to like What the Bleep Do We Know what they did for quantum physics she wanted to do for voting, which I thought was cool.
Ashley (25m 44s):
That’s cool.
Anne (25m 44s):
And then she said, I understand politics much more now even if it feels like knives in my organs. Which I felt like was a Drewism.
Ashley (25m 52s):
That’s a really good Drewism. Yeah, that’s a really good one. Yep. And
Anne (25m 57s):
Then she talks about how she had a hard time being taken seriously when they were making it. Yeah. The writer talks about that Angel get off the bus article.
Ashley (26m 5s):
Yeah, that’s exactly what I was thinking of. Yep.
Anne (26m 6s):
Which they show in the documentary I believe.
Ashley (26m 9s): Yeah.
Anne (26m 10s):
And then she says she used the criticism as a strength, which I also was like that’s so Drew.
Ashley (26m 15s):
Of course she did. Yeah. Yeah.
Anne (26m 17s):
Then they talk about Flower Films briefly and she said we didn’t know shit about producing but that she and Nan were dedicated to learning and instead of partying out in Hollywood, they were like putting their head in the books, which I thought was cool. She’s said she’s reading Dostoevsky’s The Idiot, which I’ve never read, but she kind of says that she relates to some of the book, which I was like, I don’t, I don’t know it enough.
Ashley (26m 39s):
Yeah, we’ll have to look up the plot just for funsies.
Anne (26m 42s):
Yeah. In this part she’s talking about being an animist, which I had just watched some old Rosie and she also had talked about being an animist.
Ashley (26m 49s):
I was gonna say the only time I’ve really ever heard that term was in like yes, 98, 99. I think it was even a question in that newsletter that we were both part of that like a trivia question.
Anne (27m 2s):
How funny. But she says because she’s an animist, she kind of describes this is how she, like how it manifests in her life. She said, I’m the girl who thinks the elevator is waiting for me. I feel guilty when I eat a carrot or when I pick a flower. I have that weird silly sort of brain that just thinks about all that shit and appreciates the beauty of the supermarket aisle. I love trying to find the beauty and reason and give credit to everything around me.
Ashley (27m 28s): So lovely.
Anne (27m 29s): It’s so beautiful.
Ashley (27m 31s): Yeah.
Anne (27m 31s):
So Alexi asks Drew, have you always been this optimistic? And she said always, it’s the only way I know how to survive and it doesn’t mean that I don’t succumb to self-loathing get morbid or cynical or bad tempered. There are moments but they’re fleeting. They are like buttons on a gigantic jacket. The jacket is optimistic. Anyone who says they’re happy all the time, it’s just fucking horseshit. But anyone who says they’re dark all the time, it’s like, come on, you tell me you never feel joy or the ping of love in your stomach. Don’t pull that dark prince shit with me. We are such multilayered creatures. We are thinking, feeling creatures and there’s no denying the complexities of it.
Ashley (28m 11s):
She still says the Dark Prince thing all the time. I love that. That’s such a constant.
Anne (28m 20s):
So then this last part, Alexi asks if being nice is Drew’s secret weapon. And she said she tries not to worry too much about what other people think but explains I’m not easy on myself. I fucking beat the living shit out of myself.
Ashley (28m 34s):
Oh really, Drew? No,
Anne (28m 35s):
I don’t think anyone could actually criticize me as much as I do myself. It’s never good enough. There’s always something more I could do something better, smarter, more hardworking, more disciplined. Can you imagine like being Drew and feeling that way?
Ashley (28m 48s):
I know.
Anne (28m 49s):
Anyway, so she said I do that enough to myself, but that also doesn’t mean that I don’t care about other people and how much I want to please. I’m a total people pleaser. I’m, it’s not so much about the approval I seek, but the act of doing. I love fucking people pleasing. I live for it. This whole thing. I’m just like, yep, I understand this. Like,
Ashley (29m 8s):
Yeah, I was gonna say this reminds me of you a little bit.
Anne (29m 12s):
Yeah. But there we go. That’s basically the end of that little article. But it had a lot of fun little gems in there.
Ashley (29m 19s):
Yeah.
Anne (29m 19s):
So I didn’t get to read this part, but can you tell me about the short stories that were mentioned here?
Ashley (29m 24s):
Yeah, It’s kind of weird. So in addition to this article, they had two fictional short stories written about Drew. The first one is by Nick Hornby who wrote the novel Fever Pitch that the movies were based on. Yep. But it tells the story of a fictional adult Drew who didn’t get the part in E.T. And she’s like this like sad, like kind of broken down angry woman. Interesting. Yeah. Then the other one is by a Jonathan Letham. Not familiar with him, but he tells a bunch of really short stories and each one involves Drew and various other known people and each one involves Drew and chocolate in some form.
Anne (30m 7s):
Weird.
Ashley (30m 7s):
So yeah, I don’t think I bothered transcribing them because it just doesn’t really quite feel necessary. But we had to mention that they’re there.
Anne (30m 16s):
Yeah, that’s kind of fun.
Ashley (30m 28s):
So then we have our second magazine, which is Pop and this one is fall and winter 2005. So I love that these like encompass the seasons as well. Such a funny coincidence
Anne (30m 38s):
.Yeah. The whole year because yeah, spring, summer, fall, winter. I love it. I too, it’s like were they in cahoots? Like come on.
Ashley (30m 46s):
It seems like it in a way, doesn’t it? Yeah. So the interview and the fashion direction were done by Katie Grand and our photography duo for this one are Mert Alas and Marcus Pickett, also known as Mert and Marcus, who also did the wonderful Missoni shoot from 2006.
Anne (31m 5s):
Ooh. Very cool. Hair was done by Guido and the makeup was by once again Gucci Westman about this makeup. She said, “I wanted her to look like Elvis because her hair was so dark and it was in black and white. She had a very similar facial structure to Elvis. So I was feeling that.”
Ashley (31m 25s):
So cool.
Anne (31m 25s):
I know. And you know what I love about us going over this right now is there’s that Sofia Coppola Priscilla movie right now.
Ashley (31m 32s):
I know, Elvis is very in the ether.
Anne (31m 34s):
Yeah, that’s kind of cool. But again, thank you Gucci for giving us that little quote.
Ashley (31m 38s):
I know. And I honestly, I don’t know that I ever would’ve thought of that on my own, but once she said it, there are definitely some photos here that I see exactly what she’s talking about.
Anne (31m 48s):
Yes. And let’s get into the photos a little bit.
Ashley (31m 51s):
Oh my god, there’s a lot.
Anne (31m 53s):
Oh my God is right.
Ashley (31m 55s):
So we have 11, if you include the cover, all full page, like we said, they’re all in black and white. As Gucci said, a lot of ’em have like sort of a wet look, wet hair, dark heavy makeup. We have some wigs and lingerie going on, cigarettes. Mickey Mouse ears.
Anne (32m 14s): Yeah.
Ashley (32m 14s):
What else am I missing?
Anne (32m 16s):
Yeah, I know it’s a, there’s a lot going on. Two of them have this like sort of androgynous thing going on, which refers back in my mind to that. Is it 1991 interview?
Ashley (32m 28s):
Oh. Yeah.
Anne (32m 28s):
That has like that sort of androgynous shot of young Drew. But yeah, these are rad. They’re all rad in their own way. The ones in the like kind of bouffant sort of type wig that kind of feels like, what’s the Ellen Von Unwerth with the blonde wig?
Ashley (32m 46s):
Oh, German Vogue.
Anne (32m 48s):
German Vogue. Yeah. So it’s kind of like a similar wig to that except it’s darker, but yeah. And the cover is fantastic. That’s where the eye makeup is the darkest, is that cover?
Ashley (32m 59s):
Yeah.
Anne (32m 59s):
Oh it’s so good.
Ashley (33m 1s):
Beautiful.
Anne (33m 2s):
That glossiness. She almost looks like she’s like a bronze statue or something.
Ashley (33m 5s): Ooh, Yeah.
Anne (33m 6s): On the cover.
Ashley (33m 6s):
I totally see that. Oh, okay. Again, go check these photos out you guys. So some of the outtakes were printed in Visionaire. Their number 52 issue in 2007. It’s kind of hard to explain what Visionaire is. It’s an experimental agency that’s been collaborating with artists, influencers and Fortune 500 companies for over 25 years. And they produce these like public art installations film every year. They have an issue, quote unquote. My husband side note has collected some of them over the years.
Anne (33m 40s):
Oh cool.
Ashley (33m 40s):
He has a handful of them. And that’s where I have that 2009 selfie of Drew where she took it in the mirror has Oh yes, that John Baldessari like added his art to.
Anne (33m 50s):
Yes.
Ashley (33m 51s):
That’s from a Visionaire. So unfortunately he doesn’t have this one.
Anne (33m 56s):
Sadly.
Ashley (33m 57s):
I think this one was really expensive ’cause it’s like gold plated Louis Vuitton for the case.
Anne (34m 1s):
Oh my God.
Ashley (34m 2s):
I know. But it has two, at least two really beautiful outtakes from this. I mean beyond stunning.
Anne (34m 10s):
Oh My God. We need it. We need it for the Drewseum. Whoever has it out there, send it on over.
Ashley (34m 17s):
You know, it’s either this or the little heart necklace. We’ll probably have to spend about the same money on both.
Anne (34m 23s):
I think I’d rather have the book
Ashley (34m 27s):
And we’ve been lucky enough, there are a couple other outtakes. I don’t know where these came from, but she’s got like a leather mask in some of these, little bondage-y looking.
Anne (34m 37s):
Yeah. These are so gorgeous. I should check out other work by these photographers.
Ashley (34m 41s):
Yeah.
Anne (34m 41s):
They have such a cool vibe to them. I just realized one other one reminds me of one more shoot. Sorry I have to go back. Okay. Blonde curly hair reminds me of the Kevin Aucion makeup.
Ashley (34m 54s):
Oh, for making faces? Yeah.
Anne (34m 57s):
Like the angle even. But of course Drew has like a black wig in that. Or maybe it’s her actual hair.
Ashley (35m 2s):
Yeah. I don’t know.
Anne (35m 3s):
I almost feel like I need to make three side by sides.
Ashley (35m 6s):
You do that.
Anne (35m 9s):
Okay. Here’s what Anne couldn’t stop blabbering about when the image was only in her head if only she knew. Okay. So now let’s get into the article. So give us your little summary of the article from Pop.
Ashley (35m 23s):
Okay. So again, in another similarity, this is also a very short article, that’s part of the reason why we decided
to put these together. But it’s a good one and I’m gonna just summarize it on the fly. So stay with me if I sound like I’m not prepared. Like we said, the article’s done by Katie Graham. So Katie says, Hey Drew, what’s going on? Like what are you doing in LA? And Drew said that’s the first week she’d had off in quite a few years. So she was just doing things that she’d been like wanting to do, like cleaning out her closet.
Anne (35m 54s):
And I was like, oh, I wish I could have been the fly on the wall for cleaning out the closet.
Ashley (35m 59s):
Oh, I wish I could have been the like trash man standing there. Like we’ll take whatever you don’t want. But yeah, she says that she’s like a workaholic as we know. And that she had made a promise to herself to take time off. She just finished Lucky You. And she was really tired and it was very challenging because of having to sing, which is a big fear of hers. And she does say on one job I was supposed to sing and they told me I was the worst singer they’d ever heard. Which of course must be
Anne (36m 28s):
Everyone Says I love You.
Ashley (36m 29s):
Must be. Yeah.
Anne (36m 31s):
So
Ashley (36m 31s):
She’s like, I had to face with my fears and she trained for five months on weekends and after work to get this going
Anne (36m 38s):
For some reason that description, five months on weekends and after work, I just imagine like somebody who’s got like a full-time job and they’re like, all right, I’m doing my extra training like on the weekends and after my full-time job,
Ashley (36m 49s):
Kind of how we do this podcast.
Anne (36m 53s):
True. We’ve been training for a year and and some change on weekends and after work
Ashley (36m 59s):
Or during work sometimes. Oops.
Anne (37m 1s):
Yeah.
Ashley (37m 2s):
Okay. So this magazine actually does reference her boyfriend by name Fabrizio Moretti and they ask, you know, because he’s a drummer of The Strokes, did he play drums along with her while she was singing?
Anne (37m 12s):
Yeah.
Ashley (37m 12s):
And she said, you know, he helped me a lot. He helped me figure out what notes I could sing for each word so that I could approach each session with my voice coach with a new intelligence. So that was cool.
Anne (37m 21s):
Yeah, I like that
Ashley (37m 23s):
The author asked if she sang along to Strokes songs. She said no, that she just stuck to country music. ’cause that’s why her character in the film sings. And then she said she also listened to a lot of Marilyn Monroe because she loved her singing voice being like beautiful and charismatic and sensual. And it really made her appreciate what an art singing is. And then she compared it to when she was training for Charlie’s Angels and she went to see Cirque de Soleil. It was like the same feeling like watching all of their strength and stamina made her realize their beauty and power. And she’d always run away from the physical because she was much more about the emotional.
Anne (37m 59s):
Yeah. And I put a little heart by that. Yeah,
Ashley (38m 1s): You like that one.
Anne (38m 4s): I understand.
Ashley (38m 5s):
Yeah. You know, I’ve probably always been that way up until a few years ago when I really started getting into yoga and working out. Yeah. And it was suddenly like, whoa, this is weird. This has so like not been part of my life and now I love it.
Anne (38m 16s):
Yep.
Ashley (38m 16s):
So I get it.
Anne (38m 18s):
Yep.
Ashley (38m 18s):
Then this is a theme that’s come up so many times when we do these articles, they talk about her feeling unattractive or out of place and if that was maybe like something that she took into Never Been Kissed, which is you know, very astute and correct. Yeah. And Drew said, whatever world you’re in, you can feel really vulnerable, especially if you’re out of place. Awkward, uncomfortable in your skin, exposed in any way saying what’s wrong with me. Which she definitely still says
Anne (38m 48s):
Yes.
Ashley (38m 48s):
And then this is just a really sad but lovely quote. You’re vaguely aware that people have this idea of something that’s correct and beautiful and pristine and graceful, but you’re something other. I was like, oh Drew hard to hear those things in a different way. Yep. The author asks if it was especially difficult as a kid because like it’s hard enough just be a regular kid, let alone, you know, making E.T. Et cetera. Yeah. And Drew said, as her therapist says, shit slides downstream. When you’re a kid, you just feel like shit facing this weird little battlefield you have to walk through in order to just earn your space. But that’s cool because we all have to go through it.
Ashley (39m 29s):
She’s asked if she has any regrets about that time in her life and she says no. Like it’s hard not to have regrets because you wanna be like this unscarred beautiful, pristine, virginal perfect being that has no emotional scars.
Anne (39m 41s):
Ugh. I love this whole thing.
Ashley (39m 43s):
I know. But then she says, your baggage is what makes you who you are. You have to embrace it otherwise you end up kicking and screaming about something you can’t change. And that’s making me laugh because we just referenced her dad being like, kick the bag. And she’s like, you can’t dad. And they’re talking about, you know, she’s done all these things in her life. She’s only just turned 30, just like you mentioned in the other article. Yep. And it like, is that amazing? And she says it is, but she’s always hard on herself. Of course she feels it’s not enough. She wants to do more. There’s very similar themes going on here. Yep. But this is cool. She said for the first time in her life she’s taking time off. She can look around and see what direction she wants to go in.
Ashley (40m 25s):
And then she says she has a little post-it on her window that says Stop and smell the roses because she’s not very good at doing that. And that made me think of her meditation closet with all the post-its on it that she currently has.
Anne (40m 37s):
Okay. It’s so funny ’cause I, I was thinking about Drew’s handwriting and how I can like, because I, we know it so well I can imagine it the writing saying Stop and smell the roses in her handwriting. Yeah. And I wasn’t even like picturing that amazing closet, which is the my computer’s desktop
Ashley (40m 54s):
That you look at
Anne (40m 56s):
Genuinely. Yes. She’s not just like saying that. I’m sure she really did have a post-it that says Stop and smell the roses.
Ashley (41m 2s):
Oh a hundred percent.
Anne (41m 5s):
So great.
Ashley (41m 6s):
Then she’s asked if she’s going on holiday and she says that her friend’s going to Greece, but she’ll probably end up on the deck drinking white wine and reading. And then she says she loves to explore so she’ll go off and just like do something by herself alone, which is so cool. And then of course she’s asked like if that independence is something that she learned as she got older or what she said that when she was growing
up, kids that had a strong family unit seemed to be more independent because they knew they could like leave the nest and then come back and it would still be there. But she always felt scattered. So she was intimidating about going places on her own. And of course she had her own apartment when she was 14, has been living on her own ever since.
Ashley (41m 46s):
But it wasn’t until her twenties that she would travel by herself because that’s sort of like when she decided if she wanted to do something she was just gonna go do it instead of waiting for someone else, which feels very like Ever After.
Anne (41m 58s):
Yep.
Ashley (41m 59s):
And then she said she loves eating alone and going to the movies by herself too. And I feel like she still talks about eating alone a lot. Like it’s something she really likes to do.
Anne (42m 7s):
Yeah.
Ashley (42m 7s):
I kind of like it too. Especially if I have something to read. I’m not, I have no problem with it.
Anne (42m 12s):
Yeah.
Ashley (42m 13s):
She’s asked if she remembers the first film she saw on her own and she says, not the movie itself, but she remembers the experience. She was in New York, she was about 11. She walked to the theater, sat down and had a cigarette while she watched it.
Anne (42m 28s):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s right. You heard that right? She had a cigarette in the theater
Ashley (42m 34s):
Like I know indoors.
Anne (42m 35s):
Right. It was okay then somehow
Ashley (42m 38s):
And the interviewer says, oh you were so wild. And Drew says, I know. And I loved it.
Anne (42m 43s):
And
Ashley (42m 43s):
Then she’s like, I think every kid wanted to be you growing up. And Drew said, that’s funny because I was a prime example of what not to be.
Anne (42m 50s):
Yeah. I thought that was great.
Ashley (42m 52s):
But the interviewer said, when you’re young you feel like you only have a few years to be wild. And Drew said, yeah, but it led her to have a solid work ethic because you know, and she said this a lot, even though that there was this time where people thought she wasn’t professional, that like really bothered her because no matter what was going on in her personal life, it didn’t affect her work. Like she still always was there and dependable for work. The interviewer kind of points out that a lot of people who have addictions or go to rehab, they have to like completely abstain afterward and be opposite of who they were. And Drew said she doesn’t like the all or nothing. She tries to find the happy medium. She loves working out and sweating and then having a beer. I like that she says, I love learning and laughing, exercising, then doing things you’re not supposed to.
Ashley (43m 38s):
I love going to rock shows and slamming a shot down and screaming at the top of my lungs. That is so much fun. Halloween is my favorite holiday because you get to be the freak that you really are and celebrate it. We should have more days like that. But then I also like the diligent business, the work ethic, turning up on time and being professional. Yeah,
Anne (43m 56s):
I love that whole thing. ’cause it was just like, yeah, the dichotomies of Drew Barrymore.
Ashley (44m 3s):
Yep. And then they point out like, Hey, the public perception of you changed at one point from this out of control girl to this a-list celebrity who has everything under control and how did that happen? And Drew says, oh, I know exactly how that happened. She realized she left her job, she appreciated it. She, she didn’t wanna see those things taken away from her. Nobody was like calling her for roles and she knew she had to
take on responsibility and make the films herself that were more challenging. She’s like, well what films were we talking about? And she’s like, Amy Fisher, Poison Ivy. She realized she wasn’t a little girl anymore and needed to do more mature roles. And then she realized how much she loved the whole process of this making movies, casting, writing, directing all of it.
Ashley (44m 45s):
And she wanted to be a part of it. And that of course she set up Flower Films,
Anne (44m 50s):
Ta-da.
Ashley (44m 51s):
Yeah. Her and Nancy hit the books and laid low, as you mentioned in your article.
Anne (44m 56s):
Yeah. I might have pulled hit the books from here.
Ashley (44m 58s):
Oh maybe. That’s so funny. But they have said that a lot. Yes. And like it felt like they were at college, they worked on screen, they met Adam Sandler and liked how he was doing his company. And then of course they got to do Never Been Kissed. And then Charlie’s Angels, right afterward, she said that was really intimidating. But we were like, we’re going to fucking do this and have fun with it. Absolutely. And then as we mentioned in our Donny Darko episode, which you can go back a couple episodes and listen to, after they did Charlie’s Angels and they had a blast and all that, they were like, okay, let’s go do something that’s small and not in the public eye.
Ashley (45m 39s):
Which is so fun that they had that range. I love that.
Anne (45m 42s):
Yep.
Ashley (45m 43s):
The interviewer says that she was probably more nervous about meeting Drew than most people ’cause she was such a hero of hers. And it was so cool when she turned up with her boyfriend and had, she says huge love bites, which I’m guessing are hickeys.
Anne (45m 56s):
That’s what I was thinking too.
Ashley (45m 58s):
And says it was the most rock and roll shoot I’ve done for years. And Drew says rock and roll? I feel like I’m just the biggest dork. I’ve got these big old boobs. I feel like I’m always about to fall over. I always say the wrong thing at the wrong time. Or I’m way too excited about things when everyone else is playing it. Cool. So it’s so funny to hear that I so do not see myself that way.
Anne (46m 21s):
Hahaha
Ashley (46m 21s):
That feels like a total constant. Like she definitely still talks about herself in that way as well. Yep,
Anne (46m 27s):
She does. And she, I think she genuinely feels it, you know?
Ashley (46m 31s):
Yeah, definitely. The interviewer says like, it was just such a great shoot, Fab was next door gambling, so who knows where they did this. They were all drinking pink champagne. And anyway, Drew said that Fab is the rock and roll one and she’s more like, I have to be professional. And he’ll go, fuck it babe, have some fun. But she said like he, when he was training her with singing, he worked really hard with her. He’s got like the balance of having fun and still being diligent.
Anne (46m 58s):
There we go.
Ashley (46m 59s):
And then this is cute. She’s asked, were you a fan of his? And she said, yeah, it’s sort of embarrassing. I was such a dumb ass when I met him. So she said she went up to him and was overly enthusiastic, like always. And it was just going on about loving the band and the music and how they’re so important. And inside her head she was saying, you blew it big time. Typical me, typical overdo it girl. So she walked away all embarrassed and watched him play and she’s just like, oh my God, even though that was so embarrassing, I gotta go find him. And she said something went right ’cause they’ve been together ever since and she loves him so much and had she not been brave enough to make a fool out of herself or take a risk, she wouldn’t have that in her life.
Ashley (47m 39s):
So fuck embarrassment.
Anne (47m 41s):
I love that.
Ashley (47m 42s):
I know. So good. And then she’s like, did he ask you out on a formal date? And Drew said, no, fuck that. I asked him out, I called him. Fearless Drew.
Anne (47m 52s):
I like this next thing.
Ashley (47m 53s):
She’s asked what her favorite color is and she said, the rainbow. Okay. That’s like so extremely lame, but I just love all colors.
Anne (48m 2s):
I feel like that answer feels like that’s what like a impersonator of Drew would say.
Ashley (48m 7s):
You’re so right. Like a parody of her would say that. Yeah, that’s very true. And she says Fab would have a field day teasing her about that. But it’s true. And she says she’s staring at a rainbow that she painted right then. And the lady says on your wall and she says, no, I painted it on my tape recorder actually. So there you go.
Anne (48m 29s):
But yeah, these are both fun articles. I love that it spans a year. It’s kind of an interesting little like drop into her life with Fab.
Ashley (48m 38s):
Yeah. And we have been, you know, really drawn to articles from mostly the nineties. So we, we sort of like told ourselves we needed to get out of that box and try something a little more recent. But of course this is not recent at all. 18 years,
Anne (48m 51s):
Only 19 years old.
Ashley (48m 56s):
But still we’re getting there. We’re we’re we’re coming forward in time.
Anne (48m 56s):
This is recent for us, but yeah. But also, yeah, I think it was like seeing these images. I think you were just reviewing 2005 again and you’re like, you know what, these are rad. Yeah. This is a really good thing to put together. And I’m glad we did.
Ashley (49m 12s):
Me too. And hopefully the rest of you are as well. If you did like that you guys know what to do, you could go leave us a review on Apple Podcasts that we’ll read back on the air. I actually haven’t checked in a while. I wonder if we have any new ones. Hmm. Ooh, maybe somebody should go do it before I even look. And then go follow us on Instagram @howdoyoudrewpod where we post pictures related to the episodes we do little reels with, you know, video components to go along with what we talk about. And you can also follow us @drewseum for other stuff. Like your opinions on rankings of Drew’s films.
Anne (49m 49s):
You can get really into all the little niche stuff that we get into over there. Also make sure to visit our website at How Do You Drew dot com, hosted on the OG the Drewseum. Make sure you follow us or subscribe as a patron on Patreon slash How Do You Drew. And also send us listener mail to How Do You Drew [email protected]. And my question to take us out today is, what’s your third favorite color?
Ashley (50m 18s):
So pink’s my favorite Gold is second. Yep. Probably,
Anne (50m 24s):
I don’t know why I do this to you.
Ashley (50m 28s):
A yellow.
Anne (50m 29s):
Hmm.
Ashley (50m 29s):
I don’t know, like pale. I like, like pastels, like pale, pretty much any pale color I’m kind of into.
Anne (50m 38s): Okay.
Ashley (50m 38s): That’s my vibe.
Anne (50m 39s):
So my first two blue and green are vying for my attention all the time now. Yeah. And I’m actually starting to like orange, oddly
Ashley (50m 48s):
Enough. Yeah. I have come around a little bit on, or in fact right now my nails are orange, which is so weird, but it has to be like a certain shade.
Anne (50m 56s):
Yeah. For me it’s like dark almost like, well not brick, ’cause brick burnt is red, like burnt orange. Yeah. Like I’m into that. It’s not just ’cause it’s fall, but I’m feeling burnt orange as my third favorite color right now.
Ashley (51m 10s):
Oh, well you’re getting your nails done tomorrow. So I’m excited to see what you end up doing.
Anne (51m 15s):
Yeah. And we’ll talk about why I am getting all fancy next week.
Ashley (51m 19s):
Ooh, that’s a good
Anne (51m 20s):
Tea. All everyone,
Ashley (51m 21s):
You definitely wanna come back.
Anne (51m 24s):
We’ll see you next Drewsday.
Ashley (51m 26s):
All right, sounds good. Thanks everybody.
Anne (51m 29s):
Thank you. Bye-Bye. This episode of the How Do You Drew podcast was researched and produced by Ashley and Anne from thedrewseum.com with help from our sponsor, Positive Medium.
Ashley (51m 51s):
Special thanks to Matt Costa for our lovely theme song, Roxy Prima, for our adorable logo. And last but not least, Drew, Barrymore and all the Drewbies who love her, we do this for you. Thank you.