How Do You Drew Episode 1223 – Wildflower
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I’m Anne.
And I’m Ashley, and this week we
are discussing Wildflower Drew’s
I’m so excited.
This is this is, this is the
start of something big and we’ll
get into that in a minute.
But like, this is exciting.
Yay.
Yeah.
OK, so at the very top, we gotta
just do a little memorial thing.
So let’s get into that first.
Oh, so as of this recording
yesterday, Catherine O’Hara
passed away.
So sad.
Like I’m like, sad.
I was like shocked and like sad
and I was like, that doesn’t
feel real.
Totally, I know.
And it’s, it’s amazing, like how
many people.
Oh my God, the Internet is
devastated.
The Internet is devastated.
Like Rob Reiner was like, you
know, had this big impact, but
like for a very specific type of
people who would know who Rob
Reiner is and then now like
Catherine O’Hara, it’s big.
It’s big and it’s shocking and
it’s really, really sad.
It doesn’t feel real.
It doesn’t feel right.
She’s just been so ever present,
like our entire lives for sure,
totally generations before us
too.
She’s.
Amazing, you know, You know,
Home Alone is like one of my all
time favorite movies.
And yeah, it like, I’m not going
to lie, I’m kind of embarrassed.
It took me a minute.
I was like, oh I feel like we
should post something, but what
connection would I make, you
know?
I did not think of it
immediately either.
So guys, they did home fries.
Together.
I can’t believe I’m admitting on
the mic that I forgot, you know
what?
But home fries.
I love Catherine O’Hara in that
movie.
She is so, like, evil and
twisted and hilarious.
Like, she’s so, so, so funny.
Of course, she’s always funny.
And I’ve always loved her
performance in it.
So yeah, once, once I like it
hit me.
I was like, Oh my gosh, it just
made me like, extra.
And you know, of course,
everyone’s like Home Alone.
Beetlejuice, like the big ones,
right?
But I’m like, oh, not that many
people are mentioning home fries
and it’s like a really cool
special performance, so.
I mean, I don’t know how many
credits she has, but she’s one
of those people that’s like done
so much work that like, yeah,
they’re gonna people be people
like us who are like, what about
home fries?
And there’s gonna be like 100
other movies probably that Like,
what about this?
I know anyway.
I think.
Maybe we’ll get to home fries.
Maybe this year.
We did cover it over on our
friends makeover montage, yeah,
on their podcast like a few
years ago, like 3 years ago.
But yeah, we got to get to it
over here.
So if you guys are interested,
let it drop us a line and maybe
we’ll bump that up in the queue.
Yeah.
It’s we always like, once we
find some inspiration or reason
to cover something, we get
really excited about it.
So like, clearly us not having
that recollection is like, wait,
that’s sad.
Yeah.
But anyway, the icon that that
person is.
Rest in peace, Catherine.
Yeah, gosh darn it.
Yeah, it sucks, but you know, we
age, other people age, time is
melting like a Dolly clock, all
those things.
True.
All right, let’s talk about some
positives.
All right.
I love, love.
Let’s talk about things that
Drew’s proclaimed her love for
recently.
OK, True Love’s trivia night.
That’s not surprising.
No, she loves a badminton.
OK.
Dairy.
OK.
Mushroom caps.
Hold on, let me go back to dairy
for a second.
Where was it that she said she
like, drove by some cows and she
said, I hope you’re dairy?
Yes.
I think it’s from US 1997, but I
definitely remember copying
that.
Yeah.
And.
Well, and I told, I told my
partner he uses it sometimes.
I’d be so funny.
But anyway, dairy.
I also love dairy.
OK.
And on the other side, she also
loves Daisy.
No, not just dairy, but also
Daisy, the name which we know.
Yes, totally.
But she also loves when people
call her Brew Bear cute.
She loves Katie Segal.
Awesome.
Comfy.
Cozy. 100%.
A knee high look.
OK, immediately thinking of her
first appearance in Mad Love.
Yeah, and then finally, Drew
loves nature.
No way.
No way, right?
This is such a fun like little
segment.
I love.
I adore it guys.
We love, love.
Yeah, it definitely speaks to
that part of our brains that
loves tidbits galore.
Yes, because they’re like little
ones that like, I don’t know,
Drew also she proclaims love for
things a lot and it’s like a
funny.
I think she would probably think
this segment was funny in a way,
you know?
Like, sure, I agree.
We mean it in all of the love in
the world.
Should we get into our mailbag?
Let’s do it.
You’ve got mail.
OK, we have two today.
The first one is from our friend
Marcus, who runs the Instagram
account Charlie’s Three Sexy
Sleuths.
And he was trying to leave this
on our YouTube for our last
episode, the one about our
favorite red carpet looks.
Yeah.
And then because YouTube is a
glitchy as hell, it went from.
He could see it private while he
was like viewing it.
What?
I know I’m telling you guys, I’m
sorry for those of you who
listen to us on YouTube, we’re
trying to figure it out.
But anyway, so this is what he
was going to leave as a comment
and he sent it to us.
OK, so Marcus said go to the
episode page on Drewseum website
and click through the photos as
they discuss the gowns.
So worth it.
You 2 make me so happy with your
organizational talents.
Oh, I love that already.
Yeah, let me continue as I was
hoping the photos on the episode
page were in order as you
discussed so I could click
along.
And of course they because y’all
are the best.
Of course they are.
Of course that’s us.
You.
Know I, I love this comment so
much because it’s like it shows
like the work thing that you do
to like get that part like ready
and somebody to appreciate it
because I’m always imagining
like that people are not doing
that because I listen like on
the go if I’m listening to a
podcast.
So grateful for people who like
go and like enjoy the visuals.
Like, it’s absolutely, it’s part
of the heart behind this whole
thing.
I’m glad it’s being appreciated.
Also, a really quick side note I
wanted to tell you about him is
that we were talking about
newspapers.com, which has become
my new, yeah, incredible source
for stuff.
Thank you again, Lindsey Blake.
And he was telling me that
there’s this, like, Hawaiian
newspaper clipping of Jacqueline
Smith from the last season of
Charlie’s Angels, that he’s
like, he lost it.
He hasn’t seen it in 20 years.
And I found it on there, and it
was so gratifying.
Yeah, it’s not cool.
So fun and cool, I love that
kind of stuff.
I’m so excited to help.
That’s rad.
Yes.
So our other in our meal bag, we
also have a comment on Spotify
on our last episode and this is
from the person behind the
Alyssa Milano Museum, which we
mentioned in our last episode
and we got a comment from them.
Oh, very cool.
So they said.
Hello, Anne and Ashley.
I’ve been following you for
years.
As a fan of Alyssa Milano, I
must say you’re doing an
admirable job with your podcast.
I’m improving my English and
learning all about Drew
Barrymore.
That’s so cool.
Yeah, he said.
I laugh along with you when I
hear you laugh constantly.
I was like, I just laughed right
now for no reason, just hearing
him mention it, he said.
I’m listening every day right
now because I wanna catch up on
the episodes.
Keep it up.
Greetings from Paris, France.
So cool, that’s so.
Cool.
And I don’t think I I think
maybe I didn’t catch the line in
the last episode where you were
saying Alyssa Milano’s like big
overseas.
I don’t think I caught like, oh,
this gentleman’s from France.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that’s so fun.
I love how like with the
Charlie’s Angels account with
Alyssa Milano, like, they’re not
like, I mean, obviously
Charlie’s Angels has a
connection to Drew, but he’s
also focusing on the old TV
show.
Like, it’s like we’re
tangentially sort of connected,
but like, because we all do
similar work.
There’s also that Sharon Tate
Instagram account that I’ve
become friendly with and like we
just have this kind of like
kindred spirit thing going on
and I just love making these
friendships with people.
Yeah.
And like the style of collecting
too.
It’s like what, like what you’re
doing and how how you’re what
you’re doing with the legacy,
right?
Or like our feeling about that.
Yeah.
So cool.
I love these both of these
comments and they’re both from
like, like you said, like both
people who have the kinship with
us.
So thank you.
Thanks guys.
Yeah, OK.
So, so let’s go over to our kind
comments corner.
So.
Sweet.
Yeah.
Let’s just keep the love fest
going.
We’re so like, hippy dippy over
here today.
Here we are.
OK.
This is actress Jessica Williams
on the Drew Barrymore Show.
I wasn’t familiar with her
before, but she was so lovely.
She’s from the a show called
Shrinking.
Have you watched it?
I have not watched that and I
was trying to figure out what I
knew her from because I
recognized her and she was great
on whatever I watched her on and
I was like, oh her.
Like I’d never seen her
interviewed.
Yeah, she has a really nice
energy.
Yeah, she really does.
So this was just like, they’re
in the middle of sort of a
conversation.
And Drew said something about
like how being an entertainer
doesn’t feel like very
important, you know, like, or
meaningful in the world.
And then Jessica just went off
on this like incredibly kind
little kind comment corner.
It’s it’s so lovely.
I, I love it.
OK, so let’s let’s listen to
this.
I’m a.
Prior.
But you, you have your work.
You’ve affected my life
profoundly.
I feel like I experienced you at
the exact right age for the way
that you have deposited into me
and my generation in a really
cool way.
Like with the Charlie’s Angels.
Like you were the Angel that I
wanted to do.
Yeah, like seriously like.
And your phases, like what
you’ve been through, like you’ve
always been quite candid about
your rebellious phases and what
you’ve been through and your
childhood, I feel like I’ve
always been aware of that.
If you’re a millennial, we got
to experience you as this girl
who never quite fit in.
You were still quirky, even
though you’re like white, you
were white, but you were still
like a girl that somehow felt
accessible from the way you
speak, to the way you dress and
to how funny you are and full of
heart.
So I just want to thank you for
that.
I’m so proud of you and what you
have done and how comfortable
you make people feel.
Good.
So it’s so beautiful and the
whole time, like they’re both
like tears, right?
Like streaming down their faces.
It’s really kind, but it’s also
like, it’s that also speaks to
exactly like why we’re doing
what we’re doing.
I know we’re both going to cry
now, like.
It’s like my, I know.
It’s like in my throat, I’m
like, thank you, Jessica
Williams.
Thank you for saying that so
beautifully.
I love the eloquence behind
everything, she said.
That was so magnanimous.
It was.
It actually was magnanimous,
truly.
And I think like it.
I mean, obviously it doesn’t
matter how many times somebody
says something like that to
Drew.
I think to her, it always feels
like shocking and fresh and new.
Like, she’s not jaded.
She’s not like, yeah, everyone
tells me I’m the best, you know?
And I think she needed to hear
that like, right.
She looked very, very shocked
and touched.
Right.
Like, she knows that people know
her.
Yeah.
But I think she thinks she’s
just, like, in the background.
She’s just that old piece of
furniture.
Yeah.
That’s literally what she thinks
she doesn’t realize.
Like, Well, it’s also like the
generation of women who are,
like, becoming professionals
right now.
And like, can you know, like us,
we’re like, oh, we can talk
about it now.
Yeah.
We figured out how to talk.
About it, we have a platform,
yeah.
But anyway, that was that was
beautiful, beautiful moment in
the kind comments corner.
All right, another segment at
the top, guys, there’s a lot at
the top.
I love it.
All right, so let’s get into
this week in Drew History.
This is a biggie.
What a day Oh my God, February
Can you go back there in your
mind?
Because I can.
Because we were there, I.
Can and that’s 22 years ago.
I’m just going to say it out.
Loud OK, so not only did Drew
get her long time coming, well
deserved star on the Hollywood
Walk of Fame, and we had that
ceremony, there was also the
And I am feeling very certain
about this.
In between those two things, I
believe she filmed Ellen.
It was the first time she went
on that show because she has the
same hair, the same makeup, the
same jewelry.
And Nancy Juvonen makes a little
appearance, like off to the
side, and she’s wearing the same
jacket that she was wearing at
the star ceremony.
So like it has to be even though
they say that was a couple weeks
ago because it aired like a
couple weeks later.
God, we’re so like you’re.
We both are.
So like, we know how TV is done
now and like, we’ve also like we
noticed weird things on the Drew
Barrymore Show that they do that
we won’t get into right now.
Lately.
But like they had to do that.
I guess they have to line up the
guests for future episodes which
is so weird to think about.
They have to pretend.
I guess.
Yeah, it’s pretending.
Anyway, that is a fun little
part to like notice because the
makeup is exactly the same.
Yes, makeup is exactly the same.
Yeah, her lashes.
The hair is exactly the same
the.
The Ring.
Everything.
Yeah, it’s, it’s too much exact
like, everything about like the
wave of her hair that I’d be
shocked if it was on the same
day.
So yeah, she was busy this day,
February 3rd, 2004.
Well, link to the Ellen episode.
There’s a couple clips of it on
YouTube and the whole cast of
not the whole cast, but several
people.
So that was fun.
But yes, as I said before, we
were there at the Walk of Fame
star ceremony and the 51st dates
premiere off to the sideline
being like delegated as little
fans.
So it’s just before we had the
what does she say we have all
unlimited access or?
Which we don’t, guys.
We don’t.
But we could go on and on about
like how exciting those were.
We actually have our our episode
like her, the family history of
getting the stars.
And it’s actually a pretty cool
episode from what I remember.
And we do tell her like first
hand account of being there that
day, which was so, so, so
special.
So go listen to that if you want
to know more about that day.
But she was beautiful.
It was incredibly special.
I’m still so like happy that we
got to be right there.
Yeah, and then the 51st dates
premiere, we almost got to go
into the regular theater, but we
were with a group of like 4
people.
So Chris Miller, of course, saw
us and he’s like, Oh my gosh,
come on in.
And then he could only get like
a couple tickets, I think,
right?
Yeah, it was like, I think he
could only get 2 instead of
four.
Yeah, or something.
Like that.
So he ended up somehow getting
there was like an overflow
theater across the street also
still showing the movie, and he
was able to get all of us into
that.
So we got to see it like like 10
days before it came out.
Yeah, it’s cool.
It is really cool.
It’s so surreal.
Like anyway Drew, make some more
movies so we can go to more
premieres.
I remember the concessions being
free like.
We were we.
Were balling, Yeah.
And we, we’re gonna be talking
about 51st dates really soon,
you guys.
Yes, we are.
Oh my God, there’s so much weird
loveliness morning up right
here.
I mean, how could it not?
We’re like also almost to Drew’s
birthday like.
There’s a lot she got a like a
star on the Walk of Fame for her
birthday in 2004.
Essentially.
But anyway, that was a really
exciting day.
Like, we got to spend so much of
it seeing her, which is so cool.
It’s probably over, like, the
span of like, several hours, and
we got to see her once and then
see her again.
Like, have we ever had that
happen before?
Anything else like that?
Super unique.
Yeah.
So anyway, special day, special
moment in our history as well as
Drew.
‘S history.
That’s right.
All right, so there’s a little
bit more at the top because
Drew’s busy, which is fun,
right?
We love it.
All right, so let’s get into
what’s new with Drew.
Here we go with the news,
everybody.
OK, it’s already been like weeks
because it’s just like with the
way our recording schedule has
worked out.
But in case you guys missed it,
there was another virtual
Charlie’s Angels reunion with
Drew Cameron, Lucy and Demi
Moore.
And they did the leg zoom thing
like they did last year.
Last year they were talking
about Demi in the substance.
And this year, and this is for
Elle magazine, they were doing
it to celebrate Lucy’s success
with her film Rosemead.
And I was kind of thinking about
it.
I I wonder if this was sort of
to help, like maybe push for an
off.
Nomination for Lucy I wonder if.
It was actually she didn’t get
but.
I loved hearing them like rain
praise on her.
It really makes me want to see.
This.
Yeah, me too.
I didn’t realize like Rosemead,
it’s, it’s the city in Saint
Gaber.
Yeah, she she mentions in it
that they like had a couple days
where they filmed like in, in
Rosemead.
But anyway, it’s really lovely
to hear those like 4 women’s
talk to each other because they
just are so like they love each
other so much and it’s like it’s
really sweet so.
I also noticed Drew posted a
video recently the one of
Douglas running around her
bedroom.
Yeah, she had like a picture of
the angels in the Swiss Miss
costumes like on one of her
tables.
I know my eye caught it.
I’m like I love it.
And the Lucy has like 1 of their
I think it’s one of the TV.
Guide cover or like it’s either
TV Guide or some other like
photo shoot that was used a
million times with like, red
background.
Yeah, yeah, I love that.
And in this one, you can like
see it sort of blurry in the
background, but again, it’s so
recognizable.
If you know, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah, OK.
And then a bunch of episodes of
Hollywood Squares.
Oh my gosh, yeah.
So episodes five through 10 have
come out since we last recorded.
Crazy.
We recorded really early last
time, I guess.
We did kind of late this time.
Yeah.
Lots of fun.
Looks.
One I do not care for.
I bet you can’t guess which one,
Anne.
I haven’t even watched those
like most recent episodes yet,
so I haven’t seen the look until
like seeing this little picture,
the hair because you wrote that
it reminds you of her hair in
reminds me of her hair at like
AI think it’s like the
Confessions of a dangerous Mind
premiere when her hair is like
longer.
Oh, you know what I think it is?
I think it’s enough confessions
exactly like I think.
It’s first.
States.
It’s a 51st states somewhere in
Europe or something.
Yeah, that’s what it looks like
to me.
It’s like she’s also wearing
black and white at that, I think
anyway.
Remember, for those of you who
don’t know what the hell we’re
talking about, So I really don’t
like it when Jeru’s hair, it
almost looks like it’s like
pushed back and blow dried and
sprayed.
So it’s like, yeah, back.
I don’t know how to explain it.
And I like every once in awhile
she pulls that hairstyle out and
I just don’t like it.
So I had to laugh about it in
our notes.
And also the pic, the screenshot
you pulled of it is like she
looks a little bit like she got
hit with like a a fan really
quickly.
It’s great.
But anyway, generally of like
very lovely looks every time.
And so I’m like laughing so hard
every time I watch the show.
It’s so funny.
It’s so good.
I there, there.
It’s it’s just the perfect like
little and they’re like short.
It’s like a perfect little like
burst of like happiness and
like, yeah, they’re, they’re.
Little jabs at each other in a
really fun.
Way, Yeah.
Did you catch that very sweet
moment?
So Arsenio Hall was on, which is
kind of cool.
He’s been on a few of them.
And on the first one, Drew like
shouted him out and said how she
used to do his show and she was
so happy to be there with him.
And I feel like her appearance
is on his show because there’s
several.
They’ve only like kind of
recently started showing up on
YouTube just sort of randomly.
So I feel like they’re kind of
new to me in a way, even though
they’re from like 909293.
There was definitely one that we
saw in the last like year or so
that was like brand new to us,
right?
Yeah.
Was it like the 92 or something?
The 91 There’s a lot, but yeah,
I just thought we love a little
reunion yeah, we just thought
that was really sweet and to.
Call it out, it’s.
Like he always seemed to be like
looking out for her.
I guess I would say on those
appearances, I mean the timing
of them makes a lot of sense,
even 92, but.
Yeah, totally.
Yeah, it was a it was a sweet
moment for sure.
See, I love that you noted
Douglas, cuz I, I was, I like
Douglas has just been like
roaming around the set this
season and you can just see him
like they’ll just like do a wide
shot of like the contestants and
Hollywood Squares.
And he’s just like in the
middle, just like and you can
see like him and his reflection
cuz it’s like a shiny like
floor.
It’s so cute.
And I was like, I feel like
you’ve said before, like people
who TuneIn and are not familiar
because probably most people are
not familiar or like why is
there a dog just like walking?
Around.
I’m sure it’s confusing, but we
love it.
Love it so much.
It’s so cute.
Like, yeah, we’re gonna say more
about Douglas momentarily.
Yeah, I kind of planned that
that way.
Do you want to go over the bonus
round facts about Yeah, the the
possibly true, possibly false
facts?
Let’s hear it.
The first one was Drew has a
sneaker line called Just Drew
It.
I feel like that’d be copyright
infringement anyway.
Yeah, totally OK.
Her go to karaoke song is Paul
Revere by the Beastie Boys.
I it’s true and I feel and I was
like, I bet that’s true.
Like, I don’t know if I knew
that.
Oh, she said it many times.
It’s even on our drew details.
Oh, cool.
On our website for sure.
Yeah, cool.
OK, she hates garlic.
True.
They got you.
But you know what’s funny?
She used to say that she was
allergic to it when she was in
like in the 90s.
And then on her show, she she
kind of doesn’t want to come out
and say it, but there was a chef
not that long ago who was like,
I made it for without garlic for
you.
And she was kind of like, oh,
thank you.
So it’s like a secret.
Interesting.
I’m a surprise because she’s
such a like, she loves so much
food stuff.
And I was like, could that be
true?
Because I know there’s a couple
things she used to say she hated
but like now she likes.
Yeah, like ice.
Cream, chocolate, I don’t know,
just anyway.
So she does hate garlic, yeah.
What’s next?
She owns the actual ET that was
used in the movie.
It’s a good one though.
That’s a cute one.
Yeah, she’s probably like, I
wish I did.
Right.
OK, Drew once threw her cheating
ex’s stuff in his car and let
the car roll down the driveway.
This is true.
So I haven’t seen the two recent
episodes.
I know she talked about some
kind of scandalous thing, but
she like.
Yep.
Well, I also.
Feel like maybe at one point she
said she spray painted the car.
I can’t remember but like.
I thought it was like something
else.
I didn’t know it was roll down
the driveway.
Yeah, but we don’t know who this
is.
Like, my gut tells me it’s Jamie
Walters, but based on what we
know of their breakup, like
there’s no evidence that it’s
him.
I don’t know why I think it is.
Maybe she’s because she’s told
the story on her show like
multiple times throughout the
years.
So maybe at some point there was
some little detail that I was
like, huh, I’d be Jamie.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it
was Jamie because they like had
a house together, right.
So like that’s kind of like a
plausible connection.
I don’t know.
I also.
At one point might have thought
it was Luke like when they were
like kind of together, but maybe
they kind of weren’t.
But who knows what was going on.
But interesting.
To imagine her doing it, I could
almost imagine it more like in
the era of Jamie Walters like as
far as like the letting herself
like go that far.
I agreed, agreed, but.
It’s that’s fun.
I like it.
OK, what’s the last one?
OK.
And I thought this was so
perfect.
Like, when you think about our
last episode.
Yeah.
Drew once walked the red carpet
in a dress she’d made entirely
out of duct tape.
That.
One’s a stretch, guys.
It is, but also like, what if we
had talked about it and then it
was, you know, like what if that
was a thing that we were like,
we love this look.
That’s that’s so funny.
So that’s our Hollywood Squares
wrap up.
If you guys wanna watch the
episodes, they’re all available
on Paramount Plus.
They don’t disappear in a week
like the Drew Barrymore Show
episodes do.
But I did notice Season 1 is
gone.
It was up there forever and now
it’s gone.
No.
Good thing I take all these
screenshots when I’m watching
it.
Right, right.
That’s that’s good.
That’s the archivist in you
working.
Absolutely.
Like it’s going to go away.
Like everything goes away.
OK, a little bit more new.
As I said, we were going to
mention Douglas.
So Douglas has his own Instagram
account now at Douglas
Barrymore.
So funny inspired this I.
Don’t know but I love it so much
like I’m you.
Want to find the bio?
Yeah, it says.
I’m Douglas Barrymore.
Drew Barrymore is my mom, Co
host of the Drew Barrymore Show.
I’m almost 16, but age is just a
number.
It’s so cute in the little
profile picture of him and the
like.
Cowboy get up.
It’s adorable.
It’s so cute, Douglas.
I can’t wait to like rain all of
my likes onto your page.
Yeah.
Anything to get like a little
more drew content in a different
like lens is so fun.
Right, Yay Douglas.
We can’t wait to see more
Douglas content.
OK, last thing before we get
into our lovely weekly topic.
Yes.
Final thing is that those new
MSC Cruises commercials are
officially out.
There are three.
They have titles.
One is karaoke, one is that’s
funny and the last is cabana and
Spritz.
So we will link to those.
They’re exactly what you guys
expect them.
To be right, they are.
They are cheesy.
Drew’s adorable.
I actually had, like, a stress
dream about being on a cruise
this morning as I was, like,
about to wake up.
That’s so funny.
I forgot.
Yeah.
And I was definitely like, why
am I about to jump?
Off like Drew in 1984.
You’re about to jump right off
that cruise, which she talks
about in the book that we’ll be
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Hi, Drewbies just a quick note
before we get into the episode.
As you may have noticed if you
listen to the intro, my audio
was not up to par this episode,
but we couldn’t completely redo
our natural tone of this episode
once I realized.
So enjoy and thank you for your
grace regarding the less than
optimal audio.
Quiet.
Hours.
You have always been my
wildflower, showing up wherever.
OK, so you guys were getting
into Drew Barrymore’s 2015 book
Wildflower.
This is just the beginning of
something big, like I said at
the top.
Yeah.
How do we jump into this?
Well, let’s start with just this
little from the inside flap that
kind of tells us what this book
is about.
I’ll just read it real quick.
So it says.
Born into Hollywood royalty, the
granddaughter of the great John
Barrymore, Drew Barrymore has
become one of the biggest stars
of her generation.
Despite an unconventional
childhood, her life went on an
incredible trajectory in both
good and difficult ways.
After starring in ET at the age
of 6, she became an emancipated
adult at the age of 14.
And it’s actually 15, But sorry,
that’s just me being annoying.
And built a life and career of
her own that millions of fans
admire.
Growing up wasn’t always easy
for Drew, but through patience,
hard work, and great
friendships, she did it.
And now she’s writing about it.
I like that.
It’s a lovely way for that to
start.
And it mentions, like, what
we’ve been talking about
generations of people who, like,
love her.
So cool.
Yay.
OK, so that’s a.
That’s a lovely way to jump in.
We should say that a lot of
Wildflower content is gonna
start flowing over at our
Patreon, so make sure you make
your way over there for that
soon.
Patreon.com slash Yeah, we’ll,
we’ll talk about it more, but
we’re going to be covering every
chapter over there in depth.
But this is sort of like our
overarching Wildflower episode
where we’re going to talk about
the history of the book and get
into some of those like smaller
things about it.
And then you got to go over to
Patreon to do the deep dive with
this.
Yep.
All right, so this is Drew’s
third book.
She had released A Little Girl
lost in 1990 and Find it in
everything in 2014.
And then after this we have
Rebel homemaker in 2021.
So she now has four books, which
is so cool that we have like
more.
And I’m like, I, I’ll just say
here like I already have
multiple copies of each one and
I just got two more copies of
this book Wildflower on eBay for
so cheap.
And I’m like, great, they’re my
reading copies.
I think I now have 4 copies
like.
I love it.
It’s like, I’m not mad about it.
No.
But we do have episodes on all
of those Little Girl Lost, Find
in Everything and Rebel
Homemaker.
So we will link to those all on
the episode page for this
episode if you haven’t listened
to them already.
That’s so cool that we’re like
finally completing the whole
series in a way.
Well, starting starting the
series and.
Starting the series that will
wrap up her book series, she
writes the other one that we
made.
It sits in her a memoir.
Yeah, and that will.
Obviously have to be like
sources on and help Fact Check
for her.
I I hope.
So because like I said, the flap
right there tells us a lie.
She did not get emancipated at
She thinks she’s like rewritten
history in her mind.
Like she used to say 15.
It was reported right before she
turned 16.
So she’s actually closer to 16
than anything else.
But it’s OK she she did move out
at 14, so I can see why she
would conflate that information.
Right.
Like maybe the process started
that early and she’s just like
she was done at that point.
I don’t know.
Yeah, she doesn’t need to be the
expert on the timeline of her
life.
That’s what we’re here for.
That’s true.
So whenever you need our
services, Drew for your next
book, just let us know.
We know you’re.
Listening all right so
wildflower it was announced on
February 26th 2015 by the
publisher Dutton that she would
be releasing a collection of
autobiographical essays.
This was a huge, like, I don’t
remember like where I was when
we heard about it or anything
like that, but it was like very
surprising.
We did not know that this was
coming, right?
And Drew statement at the time
was I love stories that are
humorous, emotional and
welcoming, and that is my goal
in writing this book.
So I think it was like it wasn’t
done at that point.
I think she was like still in
the process, which is so cool.
That’s cool, yeah.
And we’ll talk about, like, she
talks about her process a bit,
which is so cool that we have
this, too.
So we have like, not only the
book, but all this extra little
stuff because guess what?
We’re paying attention.
So here’s some quotes from Drew
about the process, she said.
I was just trying to tell
stories.
I was excited about
inconveniently making you feel
something because it made me
feel things.
When I was writing it after it
was finished, I was like, I
think this has become something
about the in between moments
that really no one had, no one
was Privy to.
That’s that’s actually a really
cool way to think of it, Drew.
Yeah.
That is a very cool way to think
about it.
Because her life is public, but
not these things, right?
Right.
Some of them we knew, but.
Right of.
Course, but we’re weird, OK?
Drew also said that writing the
book was, quote, a really
beautiful year long process.
She would steal away for three
hours a day, two to three times
a week to work on it.
And then she wrote the first
stories I wrote at a coffee
house in our summer vacation
town.
I would sneak out before the
girls were up.
I put my laptop in my bicycle
basket and rode to the coffee
house.
It was very cliche, but I was
very excited.
And this totally makes me think
of you editing the podcast at
your little coffee place.
Did it make you think of that at
all?
That’s how we visualize it.
No, but that, that’s so funny.
I I don’t ride my bicycle, but
like I do it feels like you I
couldn’t hear it.
So you don’t know how intense it
is.
But I like the picture that
because there’s something about
like the idyllic kind of like
nature of how she’s describing
this.
And like summer vacation town,
you noted it’s like out in Long
Island.
So like it’s really beautiful
there.
So.
Yeah.
All right.
So I like all.
She points out that it’s cliche,
but also that she was like.
But it was she was like, I’m
living the writer dream of my
life.
Right, OK, so here’s a little
bit more about the process, she
said, writing about my dog,
Flossy.
I was bawling.
And if I’m laughing while I’m
writing about Cameron Diaz and
these jackasses that we were
with, hurling ourselves out of a
plane and then crying writing
about my grandfather in this
Hawaiian hotel room, I’m like,
OK, maybe all that will come
through.
I don’t know if I’ve read that.
No, yeah, I mean, this is true.
That’s the way she talks.
That’s true.
That’s true.
A couple more quotes just
because it’s like sort of fun to
know where her headspace was
when she.
Was.
Yeah, yeah.
She said I actually was crying
as I was typing, but I also was
laughing all the way through it.
I always wanted to write, but I
just did not have the organized
time, the bravery and probably
enough life experience to feel
like I had something to say.
No, Drew, that’s wrong.
Or even perspective on my life.
Like humorous objectivity.
It’s very personal.
It’s my heart on a page and yet
it doesn’t cross any boundaries
and become anything I wouldn’t
want my children children to
read, which I think like that’s
a notable thing.
This book is very rated G like
right.
This is not the scandal.
This is like the absolute
opposite of Little Girl Lost in
a lot of ways.
Right.
Yeah, that’s so, that’s so
interesting to think is when I
read that line, when I was like
looking at the notes, I was
like, wouldn’t normally I like
I’m making it something that
kids can read and it wouldn’t
shock them or, you know, like
her own.
Children.
Yeah.
Like it’s almost like little
girl lost in wildflower.
These perfect like duality
things that kind of represent
Drew herself, like both sides of
her, right?
And we’re but we still have this
whole thing in between that’s
like very intimate that we’re
we’re ready to we’re ready for
that Drew that book.
We’re ready for all the other in
betweens that you haven’t
talked.
About yet between the in
betweens.
Right.
And then she also said it is a
cheerful, optimistic book and
hopefully surprisingly emotional
here and there.
I wrote it with the feeling of
such warmth.
Which again, very opposite of
Little Girl Lost.
Like if you guys don’t know, we
just deep, deep, deep dived on
Little Girl Lost.
And it is very dark and
upsetting at times.
And it’s like, yeah, there’s not
a really a feeling of warmth in
that book, except maybe on the
side of ET.
Right, so big duality here that
we’re going from where we’re
going from to where we’re going
to in our explorations.
Like it’s I’m excited.
Me too, but I also was I was
going to say she keeps she keeps
like describing that emotional
roller coaster like surprising
people with emotions.
So like.
Yeah, hey, I mean without
jumping ahead too much, I
already did the first chapter
and it is like emotional.
It is upsetting and sad it and
it’s not that one does not have
like the happy warmth that I
feel like the rest of the book
has got it so be interesting.
OK, so the title Wildflower and
the release date were announced
on May 13th and I just think
this is so cool.
We came into this part of the
episode with Sheryl Crow song
Wildflower and our friend Missy Munday,
who we’ve mentioned many, many,
many times.
She’s the one who created the
fan site where Anne and I
actually met online when we were
teenager.
She made this beautiful tribute
video to Drew for her birthday.
Like I want to say like more
than 20 years ago.
I mean, I feel like at least.
Yeah, and she used that song.
And so it’s just so perfect that
like, you know, that is the
perfect sort of way to describe
Drew a wildflower.
It’s like, again, it’s like
these two, those two books, wild
and Flower.
That kind of sucks, but how neat
is that that she had used that?
So we have that video on our
Drewseum YouTube.
I had uploaded it a while ago
because I just wanted it
accessible.
I’m so glad I had it on.
Like a disk.
Yeah, watching it was so
heartwarming too.
I was like immediately took me
back.
I cannot watch it without, like,
bawling, like tears rolling down
my face because it just like,
captures Drew’s beautiful
essence and why we love her so
much.
And it’s funny because, like I
said, it was made so long ago
that she couldn’t, like, upload
clips, so she’s like, filming
them off her TV.
But it sort of gives it like a
really neat, you know, kind of
retro look.
I guess so.
Yeah, that’s actually what I
thought when I there were parts
of it where it looked like an
old tape of footage and it was
kind of staticky and I’m like,
oh that’s really cool cuz it
looks like, like you said, like
a feature someone would try to
imitate.
Right.
Like someone to put a filter on
their stuff now to make it look
like that, yeah.
Anyway, I love that that like
that brought you there.
Like you’re like, oh,
wildflower, hey, that reminds me
of this like wonderful moment in
our specifically.
Drew history.
So cool.
Yeah.
OK, then the cover was revealed
on July 20th of 2015.
It’s such a great cover.
We’ll describe it a little bit,
I guess in a minute.
It was a cover designed by Grace
Hahn.
The cover art photography done
by Diego Future tell in May at
Drew’s home in Los Angeles.
You noted here, I love this.
They’d work together in the
early 20 tens for California
Style magazine Flower Beauty and
Flower eyewear.
So a bunch of flower theme
things like.
Like every shoot they’ve ever
done is just surrounded with
flowers.
That’s perfect.
Yeah, I love it so much.
Yeah.
What?
What else do we want to say
about this cover?
So I guess we can just kind of
describe it.
Well, she’s on a trampoline,
right?
And she, they caught her.
When she’s like going up, she
looks just like kind of that
underwater shoot from 2009.
Somehow she can just know how to
work with the camera.
Even in these sort of weird like
me on a trampoline would not
look this like peaceful and
Kareem.
Right.
They love the like handwriting
font they used for the cover and
like have like kind of splashed
over.
It’s it’s perfect.
Like I, I, I love this cover so
much.
And I also love the back of the
cover where they’ve also got her
jumping on the trampoline, but
it’s the back of her and there’s
something.
So why do we love that?
We love photos of the back of
her.
I’m thinking of that one from
another magazine.
Right.
I thought of that immediately.
Yes, I thought of that
immediately.
Also, back to the front, I’m
pretty sure she’s holding a
perfect Peony, which is my
favorite flower.
And it’s like, it’s like
literally a Trader Joe’s Peony.
That’s like they’re like very
special.
And I was like, it’s just maybe
that’s why I started getting
some into peonies.
I’ve never made that connection
before.
Right, right, That’s so funny.
I know you love those.
And it is really lovely on this
that that’s like the only thing
that’s color really on the
original cover.
Yeah, that.
So the original cover is like
like this, like grey a very
soft, like it reminds me of
like, like a neutral background
color that museums use.
Like it’s very neutral, but like
in a beautiful warm way.
Like how is grey warm?
I don’t know.
It is though you’re you’re
nailing your description.
I know you don’t think you are,
but I’m totally here with you.
I am.
I guess I’ve been like analyzing
colors for a long time as like a
framer and stuff.
That’s true, but what was I
going to say?
Oh, we haven’t really talked
about like her dress, like, I
don’t know.
It’s it’s it’s also like simple
yet beautiful and playful like
it’s got.
Like embroidered flowers on it,
it’s like.
Mostly white.
Yeah.
Like it’s, it’s really lovely.
And then yeah, it’s fun what
they did for the paperback that
they used basically the same
layout, but it’s like bright
blue.
Yeah, like almost Tiffany Blue.
Yeah, it’s.
Close to that.
It is kind of close to that
actually.
It’s fun because I can always
notice it on the Druze news desk
because of that bright blue.
It’s always fun to spot it
there.
That’s fun.
I love.
I also love that they added this
quote on the cover with the
paperback.
It says pure delight.
Yeah.
It’s really cute.
I’ll just say one more thing
about the back of it.
So there’s a quote there that’s
from the book.
It’s from the preface.
Right, it says.
We all have stories to tell.
These are mine.
Oh, and I just noticed that you
can see the trampoline.
Yeah, it’s kind of funny that
they left it in.
Yeah, I like it though.
Me too little behind the scenes.
We love that.
Yeah.
And then of course, there the
author photo Diego also took.
And it is true with her
daughters, Olive and Frankie.
And she doesn’t often show them
anymore.
In fact, she hasn’t for probably
pretty soon after this book came
out.
So it’s it’s nice to know that
like, like I’ve used that one
for Mother’s Day a couple times
on social media because I’m
like, she chose this one.
She said this was OK to show
people, right?
This, this can be the photo that
we use of them until, until
there’s another state.
You know, I was just gonna say
that until, like, they’re of age
and they can put out photos of
themselves with their mom that
we will.
Share We.
Hope, right?
But it’s adorable.
It’s so cute.
It captures them like how old
are they here?
Gosh, one and three.
Yeah, they’re little.
It’s.
It’s darling.
It’s really darling.
We have more behind the scenes.
This is so fun.
So Drew posted a few times about
recording the audio book in
September of 2015.
So we like have like this
timeline exactly locked down by
Drew herself.
That’s, yeah.
And I guess we didn’t really
like put anywhere in the notes,
but yes, there is an audio book
of Drew reading everything
herself.
We will occasionally be
inserting clips from that in our
coverage.
Sometimes they’re very slow.
Like I think she was directed to
be very clear and concise with
her wording.
So sometimes it’s hard to like,
you know, I think Anne and I
speak a lot faster than that,
and so does she normally.
Right, right, right.
But it’ll be fun to put them in
once in a while.
And there are some like fun
ways, of course, that she is
speaking about her own story.
So it’s like it’s a unique way
to enjoy the book for sure.
And you just got it through the
library, right?
So people, if you haven’t
listened to the audiobook and
you want to, that is a way you
could do it for free.
Yeah, it was completely free and
it was easy.
I had to I have to wait for like
the the e-book that’s not the
audio book for like 2 weeks.
Wow.
Yeah, so that’s crazy, but the
audio book was available
immediately.
I was like, oh, perfect.
Love that.
Love Libby.
Yes, exactly.
Thank you Libby and libraries.
Yeah, we love libraries, yes.
So the book was finally released
on October 27th, 2015.
I never think of this as like a
Halloween release.
It’s a spring.
It does just sort of like a
special little thing.
So the day of the release, Drew
posted a tribute to her mom,
Jade, on her Instagram.
And she used a photo that we
were asked to provide, which is
really cool.
Her people, AKA Mason at the
time, reached out and said, you
have a good photo of Drew and
her mom.
We sent this over.
It’s from the book The
Barrymores.
And yeah, Drew posted it and she
credited us, which was really
fun.
At the end of the caption, she
wrote thank you to the Drewseum
for the photo and they
even showed on Entertainment
Tonight with the caption.
I was like, wow, we made it to
Entertainment Tonight.
So cool.
Do you want me to read the
caption?
OK, so the caption said today I
wrote a book and as I think and
celebrate many women this week,
I must say a huge thank you to
my mother.
As I say in the
acknowledgements, thank you for
my life.
I am ever so pleased to be here.
We have had quite a road and it
is paved with gratitude.
So cool.
And then followed by thank you
to us.
I also think this photo of Jade
is the most reminds me of Drew,
the most of any photo of Jade
I’ve ever seen.
Funnily enough one of the first
comments cuz I went to because
you linked to it in our notes.
Yeah, it said.
Like you look so much like your
mom.
Oh, that’s interesting.
Yeah, and I was like, I had
never.
I shouldn’t say I have never,
but like, I usually don’t look
at Jade and go, Oh my God,
never.
It’s usually like I see her.
I see her like dad, yeah, so
much and that side of the
family.
But you’re right.
It really does like look like
her now.
Kind of the expression, right.
It’s pretty cool.
Yeah, it is.
We have really cute pictures of
you and me when we got the book,
we’re going to recreate those.
But yeah, the book, I mean, I
guess I’ll just say really
quickly, it was over 10 years
ago.
Like what?
I still remember dropping Mila
off some at something after
school and driving to Barnes and
Noble, getting my book and like,
sitting down in the cafe and
just like, Oh my God, it’s
finally in my hands and like
flipping through.
I remember it being very, I
mean, like, God, imagine that
happening now.
So exciting.
It’s so exciting.
It’s so exciting.
And Speaking of exciting things,
they did a bunch of book
signings around the country.
Not a bunch, a few.
No, there were a lot.
I think it was 10, yeah.
Oh wow, cool.
And we have to mention another
thing that we’re at.
We’re just here to brag today, I
guess in Los Angeles on November
the book signing at the Grove.
Is it?
Is that what the Barnes and?
Noble at the Grove.
And we have an episode about
this.
We’re just going to keep veering
you to more episodes.
Episode 16, we tell you all the
details about that day, which
was also very special.
That was.
Very special.
We were kind of given, I’ll just
say it, VIP access.
So it’s sort of funny.
It’s like we went from, you
know, being off to the sidelines
with all the fans at the 51st
dates premiere.
And eleven years later.
Yeah, We were literally like
reserved seats in the front.
We were told to not go through
the regular line for signing the
book.
We were treated to like a little
private hang, withdrew after
everybody had left like.
Incredible.
That was that was probably when
when did we go to flower and
like talk to her in the
entrance?
our best, like, right, you know,
moments of like really getting
her time and just being really
special.
Not that going to the Drew
Barrymore Show wasn’t, but that
was much more rushed.
Right.
So this, I mean, this was one of
the times that her team at that
time were really In Sync with us
and utilizing us and seeing our
value.
It was really incredible and I
love that you like in our notes
you popped in like the card we
gave her and the little gift
that we gave her.
I’m like Oh my God, I forgot
these little details of like.
Yeah.
You know.
We got our nails done like at
Olive in June, Which carried
Flower Beauty nail Polish.
And yeah, Drew’s like friends
with the owner of that.
Like it was just a very like,
exciting day.
And we had like our In style
magazines, I believe, like it
was just a total Drew day.
And we’ll just mention too, like
we were there with Joalena and
Brian, of course, our friends,
our friends who we’ve mentioned
before.
Hi guys, Both been on the show.
They’re both amazing.
Yes, and we got to all like we
have like a row of these drew
bees just all giggling together.
And we had all met on the same
message board as teenagers, like
Joalena and Brian were like 14
when we met the pod line.
So little, so like, and like
we’re full adults in this and
it’s 10 years ago.
Like this is guys, we’ve been at
this for a while.
Yeah.
And I don’t unfortunately
remember which of the
inscriptions she put on my book,
but your book is signed.
Love you so.
I know.
Yeah.
So we got to have, like, our own
private little signings with
her.
I know that she wrote.
I think in Joalena’s, she wrote
Love, love, love.
Like they were all different.
Yeah.
Which is so cute.
And I think.
Mine says you’re the best with a
little error, but.
Wouldn’t it be true otherwise?
And then we kind of, I remember
we had sort of discussed ahead
of time, like what if we had her
sign?
Like we don’t normally go for
autographs.
It’s not really our like major
thing.
But what if we have our sign
something and make it out to the
Drewseum?
And so she did.
There it is.
And showing it both to post this
video.
So we brought the famous
Herb Ritts photo of her profile.
It’s like kind of the Drew
picture to a lot of us.
And it was like the perfect
thing to bring.
And she wrote to the Drewseum.
My friends, all my love, your
girl D.
Yeah.
And so this became like the
heading of our website, the the
Jerusalem.
It’s our like profile image on a
lot of things and.
It’s and it’s the picture I’ve
I’ve taken to get my hair cut
probably since 2005 or
something.
But yes, I have it framed and
it’s at my home in Maine.
With I’m so like that’s not in
storage.
It’s one of the only parts of my
collection that I brought with
me and I’m not sure why but I
think I was just like oh I can
bring like that feels easy
enough to like pack with other
if.
You hadn’t.
I would have been like, you need
to send it to me like it needs
to be seen.
This was very special.
Like it was like, it literally
feels like the postcard was like
the perfect thing for signing
like the way that the way that
the white border is.
Oh, Drew.
It’s just gorgeous.
So that’s our, like, own little
side amazing story to do with
Wildflower.
It’s just, you know, we’re very
lucky to have had that access
and that opportunity.
Thank you, Chris Miller.
And yeah, so now we’ll get back
to the book.
We also have to mention that
Wildflower appeared on the New
York Times bestseller list the
week of November 15th at #9 and
stayed on the list for three
weeks.
So I’m sure that was huge for
Drew.
Oh, yeah.
Like, I mean, that’s really
exciting.
And I mean, us Ruby is all over
the world.
We’re a huge part of that.
Yeah, and like, as someone who
loves books so much and she like
reveres authors, like that’s
probably, you know, I, I think I
don’t know about Rebel
Homemaker, but her other three
books are on the list at various
points as well.
So pretty cool.
Right.
I’m sure it’s that made her
really proud.
Yeah, that’s what she deserved.
Yes, we made one more note about
another release.
So the paperback book was
released on May 17th of 2016.
I don’t remember if I bought a
copy of the paperback yet.
Oh no, isn’t.
That weird you?
Must.
I must, you think I must, but I
don’t remember.
You think I must, but must I?
Well go get it cuz it’s cute.
Yes, it’s very cute.
OK, so we’re gonna talk talk
about some kind of random parts
of the book.
So like I said, we’re not gonna
get into chapter by chapter
until we’re over on Patreon, but
we will talk about there is a
dedication, there is a preface,
there is a poem entitled
Wildflower, and there are the
acknowledgments.
So we’ll get into all of those
and then come join us on Patreon
for the rest.
Yes.
OK, so let’s just get into the
dedication first.
I love that it’s just like it’s
beautifully.
It sets it in a very specific
place in time.
Yes.
But it also it’s very sweet.
To my friend family, my flower
family, my Kopelman family, and
my daughters, thank you.
You taught me everything I know.
Sweet, to the point, concise.
Love it.
This is probably a good place to
note.
So when this book came out, Drew
was still married to Will
Kopelman and that is very much
reflected in some of the
chapters.
These are chapters I don’t think
would be included if she was to
like repackage the book these.
Days right their.
Split was announced early April
of 2016, so not terribly long
after this came out.
And I even I think I was reading
like an article from the
beginning of 2016 and it, it
was, it was you could read
between the lines that things
were, you know.
Wheels were turning in that.
Direction story.
Yeah, yeah, got it.
So it’s just feels worth
mentioning because as I said,
when we get into some of the
chapters, it’s gonna be very
focused.
And here we have it right there
that she’s saying my Kopelman
family and I don’t, I don’t
think she would include that
these days.
Just a guess.
I wonder if she would just like
kind of like group it under some
other very general family
statement.
My daughter’s family.
Yeah, I wonder.
It is.
It is interesting to think
about, like how she looks back
on that time.
Another thing we would love to
read in her memoir, Future
memoir.
Just interview her about why not
hi.
Drew, come on the pod.
OK.
So we’ll just kind of go through
the preface a little bit, and
she talks a bit about like the
making of the book.
Yeah.
So she explains that the stories
are personal, and she wanted to
just, like, elaborate on these
certain memorable moments in her
life rather than write a quote
sweeping life story.
And I think, you know, maybe we
should have even said that
earlier.
Like, this is not a
chronological linear biography,
right?
This is literally like short
little essays about just
different moments in her life
that she wanted to talk about.
It’s, it’s so fun and it’s so
unique in its own little thing.
Yeah.
And again, that sweeping life
story thing like.
Leave that to the pros.
We’ve pretty much been doing
that for the last 3 1/2 years on
this podcast.
That’s.
True.
And she says that her publisher
wanted to call this a memoir,
but that felt too heavy for
Drew.
Like it just didn’t feel right.
Because it’s it’s not really.
It’s interesting to think of
like the distinction, like, OK,
then it becomes what?
Like a biographical book of
essays.
Like biographical essays?
Yeah, that’s.
That’s accurate.
Yeah.
She, she said this before in the
quotes that we said above.
But she wants the book to be
something you could just, like,
dip into and feel something.
So like you, like you said that
like even in the first like
story, there are like emotions
that come up.
So definitely, definitely.
And then finally, she explains
how hard it was for her to like
pull herself away from her
daughter’s to work on this.
But she made it happen, which
I’m like, props to you because
even just recording this today
took a lot of like moving parts
for me.
I do not have my daughters
around.
Yep, Yep, totally, totally.
Again, like a little peek into
that moment.
We’re looking at this little
girls on that cover like little
little girls.
So we have this is video you
took at that book signing of
Drew Reading.
So we’re going to just finish
the end of the preface of Drew
Reading this at the book signing
rather than the audiobook.
This is kind of more like
exclusive to us.
Yes.
And very like fun to revisit
this version.
Yeah.
So here we go.
For some reason I had to write
this book.
I have become more private every
year and yet these stories were
beating at the door of my heart,
screaming.
Let me.
Out.
Maybe it was that I have always
dreamed of being a writer.
Those people who do the typing
and the transporting are my
heroes.
I have never been able to do
that.
I have never been brave enough,
hard enough, had enough, to say
I had not exercised those
abilities in my life, and now I
have, alone in a room.
And yet, as I say in the book,
you do nothing in this life
alone, and most of all, you do
not live alone.
And therefore we all have
stories to tell.
These are mine.
You know, I just had an
interesting thought, like as as
she was reading that because
she’s like, oh, I’ve never been
that person to sit down and do
the typing.
And I’m like, yeah, we’ve kind
of learned with little girl
loss.
She did not.
Like she went and sat with Todd
Gold in a restaurant and told
him everything and then he ghost
wrote it.
But right, it’s sort of neat to
know, like, this was sort of her
chance to really do that.
To really do that, Yeah.
When did she start doing like
those blog posts?
Oh, that was like COVID.
That was like 2020, OK.
That’s so fun and has like a
yeah, a feeling that’s akin,
like almost like those are
little essays.
Right.
Oh my gosh.
Well, when we finish doing
Wildflower, we’ll do all the the
blog, the blog.
That there’s not that many of
them.
Yeah.
I wish she would bring that
back.
Gosh.
Right, I know the last one was
quite a while ago.
Anyway, we’ll get into that
later.
Guys.
We have endless content to cover
with Miss Barrymore.
Oh, it’s time to come.
So here’s another thing we want
to hear.
I want to I thought it would be
fun to hear Drew read.
So the the first kind of like
it’s not a chapter, but the
first like content in the book
is a poem called Wildflower you
noted here.
We like, don’t know when it was
written because there’s not
really any attribution day or
anything or like who it was
written for.
Yeah, I remember it first being
like, did Drew write this?
And like, it’s very obvious.
But I remember when I was first
reading it, I was like, wait,
where’s this coming from?
What is this?
Right, so I’m going to play the
audio book version of it just so
we can hear the poet herself.
OK.
Wildflower, a poem out there in
the world of chaos.
All the concrete and fumes.
People with determination behind
the wheel, the soles of their
feet.
Wiser, some faces with souls of
routine, others with high hope
of their destination.
Among all the human and
industrial invention, my eyes
find a tiny wildflower with
pretty yellow petals and a brown
button nose, reminding me that
there is beauty everywhere.
A compass of nature, a second of
stillness in my mind as my heart
races to the rhythms of its
swaying in the wind.
You are that flower, reminding
me of what is real.
No, that’s cool.
I just had two thoughts while we
were listening to it.
Sorry.
I just so many things come up to
me on the fly.
Number one is that the the
flower swaying the wind is
literally like a feature of the
wildflower video that Missy
made.
It’s kind of weird.
It sure is like the primary
feature.
Yeah, there’s a Daisy flapping
in the wind.
That’s.
Crazy.
And also, this is very thematic
of the 1st chapter where she’s
talking about, I’m not gonna go
too deep, but where she’s
talking about growing up in a
kind of gritty neighborhood.
But she had these tiny little
pieces of nature at this duplex
where she lived, and that it’s
sort of the same thing here in
the concrete, this little
wildflower growing.
And I’m sure she sees herself,
that little wildflower.
Yeah, and I like how above it
was like, who is this written
for?
I think she’s just writing it
for herself, right.
Oh, maybe.
OK, so this is all this is fun
because it gets into like so
many people we know why they are
here, a handful of people, why
that we don’t.
So the acknowledgement section.
Yeah, it’s almost like this
weird little like peek into
something that you’re not really
supposed to know.
Like I always love the
acknowledgements in books cuz
you kind of find information
that maybe you wouldn’t
normally.
I don’t know, It’s just a funny
thing.
I mean, similar to like, it’s
not really the same, but like
notes at the end of like
scholarly papers sometimes will
be like this person for like
helping me like not kill myself.
Like not really, but like, yeah,
here’s all the people who helped
them through it.
And it’s just like at the end of
some like very anyway.
I totally get what you’re
saying.
Yeah.
This is the very end of the
book.
Yeah.
We’re just going to, like,
quickly summarize here and
there.
So she of course starts out by
thanking her girls and the
Kopelman family.
Of course.
The flower, her flower films
family, and she specifically
mentions Nancy Javonin, Chris
Miller and Mason Hughes, who
yeah, we’ve talked about all
three in this episode already.
That’s hilarious.
Yes, we have.
And I feel like she says
something specifically about
Mason, like I don’t remember
what it is, but something like.
I wanna look.
Says the great Mason Hughes, who
is my rock in every way.
I just thought that was it was
sweet.
Come back.
Great.
I know what what is.
Do we know what Mason’s doing
now?
It’s a side, side moment.
Yeah, I don’t know.
Mason, we’d love to have you on.
Are you listening?
I would love to have him on.
I’ve put the offer out before.
Maybe I need to put it out
again.
Yeah, maybe.
Tony’s been on a couple times.
He’s he’s kind of like making up
for some of Mason’s silence
there.
She also acknowledges that her
literary agent, Simon Green, and
her editor, Jill Schwartzman.
And you pulled a quote of Jill
talking about Drew.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What is it from?
It’s from Good Housekeeping
I just happened to like come
across it while I was not
looking for it.
So, so, her editor said.
Drew is so passionate and
dedicated.
We sat shoulder to shoulder,
ending her book, and not only is
she a wonderful writer, but by
the time she left, I’m certain
she’d hugged at least 75% of us.
Probably 100.
Let’s see, that sounds about.
Right.
She also thanks, of course,
Steven Spielberg and his wife,
Kate Capshaw.
So there’s a like sweet, of
course, little thing about that.
Yeah, then there’s like, there’s
like agents, attorneys and
business managers.
We don’t need to give their
names.
She does give a special thank
you to makeup artist Robin
Fredericks.
And she said because Robin
always said to me in a playful
yet forceful tone that I should
write about my story.
So thank you, Robin.
Yeah, thank you.
We have you to think
specifically.
And then the next section is she
lists girls who make her swoon.
So these are a bunch of her
girlfriends.
We’re not going to read them
all.
Cameron is there, her old school
buddies, Mel and Justine, which
is fun, like Tamara Davis.
It’s a great list.
There’s some that I’m like who?
But for the most part I’m like
Yep, that all makes sense.
Yeah, yeah, she also thinks her
nanny, so she lists two people
specifically by name, which is
really sweet.
Of course, she’s talking all
about, like, not being around
the girls all day during this
process.
So big deal.
Like TJ Vodin’s parents, she
thanks them for making her feel
like a daughter, which is breaks
my heart a bit.
I love that she thanks Jimmy
Fallon.
And so it’s like, go socks.
Yeah.
That’s so funny.
Yeah.
She also thinks the crew of the
cover art for the book, So the
photographer Diego, and then
Deborah Ferrullo, who did her
makeup and Mr. Daniel Howell,
who did her hair, which is, she
says, like, thanks for always
making me look beautiful or
something like that.
Yeah.
There’s also the former
Barrymore Brands designer
director Francesca de la Fuenta,
or Fuente, she accidentally
writes.
Francesca Fuente.
And I was like trying to find
her.
I’m like, that’s not right.
So it’s, I think she was the one
behind the look of like Flower
Press and that old Like Flower
by Drew website that was so
colorful and graphic.
I think she’s the reason for
that.
She did some like Barrymore Mag,
I mean Drew magazine stuff as
well.
Very cool.
And Dear Drew, she was very
involved with the Dear Drew
store.
We love that stuff.
Yeah, like, amazing.
And then her last two
acknowledgments are two of her
parents, she says.
And to my mother, Eldiko Jay
Barrymore, thank you.
I am ever so pleased to be on
this planet.
And to my father, John Drew
Barrymore, see you again
someday.
Oh, really?
Sweet.
Yeah, so that’s really cool.
So those are the
acknowledgments.
So those are all the kind of
like, little bits and bobs from
the books that aren’t in the
chapters.
One last little thing just to
sort of wrap it up on the book
flap, it says from Fancy love
her work.
To anyone who has ever had to
struggle to become an adult on
his or her own terms, this is a
book that will inspire delight
and show the true meaning of
family, happiness and love.
Nah, it’s true.
So just for the last time, we’re
going to say it again.
There are 28 chapters in this
book, which is more than I
realized we were signing on for.
All right, all right.
We’ll be covering them in depth
on our Patreon.
We were kind of talking
privately about how some of the
chapters might be, you know, not
have enough to expound upon that
we’ll just like put a couple in
an episode together maybe,
right?
But we’re starting with chapter
Birds of Paradise.
It centers around Drew’s early
childhood in West Hollywood.
And that one is going to be a
stand alone.
It’s already got a lot that
we’re going to talk about.
There’s plenty of like outside
sources of the same sort of
information that I want to get
into.
And amazingly, through research,
I’ve already uncovered some
really rare photos from her
neighbors in her duplex and some
really interesting information.
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That’s true.
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