How Do You Drew Episode 120 – Seventeen & Vogue, 1993

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Hey Drewbies, before we start this
episode, we just wanted to say happy
holidays to all of you. We appreciate
you so much. We are not doing a
traditional Christmas episode this year,
but we do have Drew’s Christmas movies
that we’ve covered in the past that you
could go listen to.
We’ve covered Olive the Other Reindeer on episode
17 and we covered Babes in Toyland for
episode 65. So, we’ve explored the
movies that are kind of outright
Christmas movies. So, we hope you enjoy
Babes in Toyland Christmas movieish.
Santa sort of at the end.
So, yeah, revisit those and um merry
Christmas.
Yeah, merry Christmas, happy holidays,
and happy new year.
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I’m an
and I’m Ashley. And this week we are
discussing two magazine features from
the year 1993.
Seventeen from May and Vogue from June.
Yes, we love doing these magazine
breakdowns. We love I think there some
of my favorites to do like maybe not
I think the movies end up being like the
best episodes but there’s so much more
work.
Yeah. And I think that the tidbits that
we get out of the magazines are cool or
like how we can make connections and you
can always you always do your like mini
deep dives. So we’ve got lots of little
tiny deep dives in every single one of
these magazine episodes including this
one.
Yeah. Um all right. So let’s get into
the top of the show before we start our
topic for the week. Um, we are starting
with a little tidbit, I guess, here, but
it’s sort of another thing that sort of
like puts a puzzle piece in, right?
It does. And you discovered this one.
It’s a video of Adam Sandler. I can’t
even remember where it was. It was on
Instagram or who he was talking to, but
he just kind of mentions I think they’re
asking him about like his favorite like
‘9s group or something or favorite
album, right? And he says, “Is it Holes
Live Through This?”
Uhhuh.
And so he says he remembers going
to a show of theirs in Missouri and you
found the date. It’s October 26th, 1994.
And he remembers seeing Drew come out on
stage during the show at some point. And
like we know that this would have
happened like a couple, you know, like
we know that she would be on tour with
Hole a lot in ’94.
Yeah, the timeline fits perfectly. Like
we didn’t know she was at this
particular show. We don’t have any
photos of it. Um, and I like cross
referenced Adam was doing like a comedy
show in Missouri that same day. So I was
like, “Yes, that’s satisfying.” Like,
um, but yeah, that’s kind of fun because
that was a few years before she even
started like sort of knocking on his
door like, “Hey, I think we need to work
together.” So, I kind of love that the
universe in such a weird place sort of
brought them together. Like, who even
knows if they talked? It didn’t really
sound like it.
No, it sounded like he was in the crowd.
He spotted her. like he mentions like
she was dating the guitarist at the time
and she just popped out. But I love that
and I love like
I don’t know that just that little like
he could have seen Drew Barry more at
that point in his life and then never
encountered her again.
Yeah.
But it ended up being this huge
relationship like you know. Anyway,
so fun little tidbit. I was very excited
by it. So thanks for finding and
sharing.
Yeah. Um all right. We have a very short
little list here for this week’s Drew
Loves, but let’s get into what she’s
proclaimed her love for recently.
I love love.
Okay. Yeah, very short. And I’m like I
have to credit that to the fact that
she’s barely on the Drew Barrymore show
these days as we’ve mentioned. And I’m
not kidding.
I mean, they should change it to the the
Rossy Ross show or Sunny Anderson show
or Valerie Bertinelli show.
It’s crazy. There was an episode
recently. She did a 30 second intro.
Then some of the other people did the
whole rest of the show and then the end
was like an old clip from like a couple
years ago and that was it. Yeah. Yeah.
It’s wild. We still haven’t gotten any
any answers on that, guys, but we’re
working.
We’re noticing with no answer.
Yeah. All right. But back to the fun
part. Drew loves she loves a workplace
dilemma. Oh, maybe that has something to
do with what’s going on. No, just
kidding. She loves to be convinced.
Okay.
And she loves a candle.
Cute.
She’s a fire starter.
Twisted fire starter. In fact,
you know.
All right. So, should we get into what’s
new with Drew now? Here we go with the
news, everybody. Yeah. We don’t have
much to say, but this is sweet and
great. Um, she is once again an
ambassador for St. Jude’s holiday
fundraising. Um, you know, she’s been
involved with them for years. Like I
feel like there were like hospital
visits and stuff like that that she’
done. But, um, this time around we have
a new photo in her shirt that says,
“This shirt saves lives.” I think they
like fundraised with that. And then
there’s also a new little commercial.
Well, she’s got like very um 2007 hair
going on. Like straight and parted down
the middle, right?
Yeah. It totally has like everybody’s
fine hair, right?
Oh, I was thinking more Yes. But I was
actually thinking more like music and
lyrics promo time.
Yeah.
For a little bit she did that. Yeah. So,
it’s like throwing me off because it
doesn’t look like it’s from now.
It’s It is kind of weird. Um the
commercial is really sweet. Of course,
there are like multiple clips of other
celebrities, but I like I like seeing
something new. I mean, obviously. Yeah,
of course. And then like just to go
along with all that, she also co-hosted
a gratitude celebration event at actress
Marlo Thomas’s house. And Marlo is the
national outreach director for St. Jude.
So, they had like some patients there
and um there’s not a lot of info of what
went on, but uh really nice that she’s
taking the time to do that.
Yeah, very much so. Um very cool. St.
Jude’s doing good work out there.
Yeah, I’ve donated to them. I’m sure I
will again this year because it’s just
like I like to do that in December.
Silly like you could do it at any point,
but you know, they’re like doing the
outreach so it’s like, oh yeah, let me
do that.
Of course, it’s that time of year.
Yeah.
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Okay, so totally changing gears. Should
we get into some 1993 magazines? Uh,
well, 93 guys was just so delicious that
we didn’t get enough of it last episode
in our year- end review.
I love delicious cuz that’s so true. And
also, I feel like we maybe like
underestimated just how delicious. I
don’t know.
Also, like going through these makes me
realize like, no, I don’t think I
underestimated it. I just always go like
94, 95 in my head.
That’s true. I would agree with that for
sure. Um, but 93 is beautiful. And we
talked about both of these magazines
briefly because their photos are pretty
pretty classic ones for Drew. Um, but
the articles are both very short but
really jam-packed with some fun info.
So, we’re like, you know what? We’ll
just do both of them because they’re
quickies and
just kind of use this as a companion
piece to our last episode.
Yes. And, you know, while you’re
listening to us talk about this, just
pretend you’re like holding the magazine
in your hand.
Do you know what a magazine feels like?
I actually have Hold on.
Oh, you’re next. You have the magazine.
Well, I meant to scan them today and I
didn’t get a chance, but I have the
papers.
Nice.
People, can you hear the magazines?
Yes. Because
I love paper.
Yeah.
Yes.
We love it.
Rubbing it all over ourselves. But I
just I just have to point out like the
physicality of this and that we’re
collectors and like that of course we
have these iconic pieces in our
collection.
Yeah.
I don’t know. It’s just think it’s just
fun because I just go back to like oh my
god when I got this. Not that I remember
the exact moment but like being in the
collection is like such a huge part of
our I don’t know our journey here.
Our Drew experience. I actually do
remember getting the Vogue one. Like I
remember exactly where I was. So yeah
that’s special. That’s so cool. Okay, so
let’s start with um 17 magazine from May

1993. Should I jump in?
      Let’s do it. Okay, so the photography
      for this issue was done by Matthew
      Rolston. This was their third photo
      shoot together. It followed um Interview
      magazine from 1991 and Entertainment
      Weekly in 1982, and there were many more
      to follow. Have we covered any of the
      things that they’ve done before other
      than like briefly kind of do you
      remember
      like doing a whole episode about one?
      Yeah.
      I don’t know. And there’s so many that
      they did together, but I don’t think we
      have. That’s kind of weird.
      Yeah. It’s interesting because that name
      is so
      Oh, we say it a lot,
      right? I don’t know. So, I’m sure we’ve
      probably covered some. I guess that’s
      what I wanted to say is like I’m sure
      we’ve mentioned this name a bunch. Yes.
      Um, she also attended a couple events
      with him this year. So, it seems they
      had kind of like maybe a friendship had
      formed here. And not surprising, Drew
      loves working with the same people over
      and over again. And
      totally
      and there were a couple of photo shoots
      for this magazine. So, this happens
      sometimes. A cover shoot is done
      separately in a studio and then like
      So, this is a situation like that.
      I can’t I have to say it always kind of
      bothers me. I’m such a weirdo. Like I’m
      like just make it all be one thing
      together,
      you know? I think it’s because we like
      to organize like visual of the thing
      together. So it’s like if the shoot
      especially when the shoot is done by a
      different photographer like that’s even
      weirder. It happens though.
      I mean I guess sometimes though it’s
      like
      I I’m way more annoyed if it’s a if they
      use a photo shoot from like an existing
      thing totally than I am if they’re doing
      two new ones. But either way it’s it is
      a confusing thing for us as like
      organizers.
      Okay. Okay. So, I’ll just get a little
      bit into the cover shoot and then we’ll
      get into the other one cuz there’s more.
      For the cover shoot, the hair was done
      by I don’t know if it’s pronounced Cemal
      or Kamal, not sure. And then the makeup
      was done by Joanne Gair um who also did
      the makeup for the guest campaign um the
      same year along with some other shoots.
      And you reached out to Joanne.
      Yeah, I did. She’s super sweet on
      Instagram. So, I just asked if she had
      any memories from this. But she said,
      “During this time period, I worked with
      Drew many times. I loved her joyful
      energy, kind nature, and
      professionalism.”
      Yeah,
      kind comments corner.
      She also said, “For the 17 covers, she
      was a delight to work with and a perfect
      canvas with her youthful, beautiful,
      pale skin. I believe we shot this with
      photographer Matthew Rolston.” Yep.
      Around the same time we did the guest
      campaign in 1993 with photographer Wayne
      Maser. I did several looks on her for
      this series, which I understand the
      photos are now considered iconic.
      Additionally, I did several more
      editorials of Drew in the 90s all the
      way to around 2002. Hope this is
      helpful. Thank you, Joanne. And if you
      guys want to follow her, her Instagram
      is Joan Gar. And is she still currently
      doing makeup?
      Yeah, it looks like it.
      Okay, cool. That’s cool. So, yeah, we
      love having the little interactions that
      we can like share just a little like
      about people. But I love it’s like we
      hear this like joyful energy, kind
      nature and professionalism. Like her
      professionalism in these situations
      has been discussed
      I know I can’t wait for the day we reach
      out to someone and they’re like she was
      a horrible bitch!
      I don’t want to talk about it. She was
      so bad. So terrible.
      So far hasn’t happened.
      Exactly. All right. So let’s get into
      the on location shoot which this is what
      we remember more.
      Yeah, I think so.
      And we’ll get into that a little bit
      more. So the for the on for on location
      the hair was done by Howard Barr and
      makeup by Beth Katz. And the photo the
      photos of which there are many were
      taken at two different locations in San
      Francisco which I’m literally across the
      bay from right now. So it’s kind of
      cool.
      I didn’t even think about that.
      And um it was the City Lights bookstore
      and Caffe Trieste which you looked up and
      they look pretty much the same as they
      did in 1993 which I love.
      Yes. It’s crazy. I love first of all
      that they’re even both still in
      operation. super cool. Um, and I found
      like pictures of them now where she took
      her photos and I mean they even still
      have the little postcards on the wall in
      the same spot like at the bookstore.
      It’s just wild. So maybe you can take a
      little trip across the Golden Gate
      Bridge. Do a little location scouting
      for us. Um, and then I just found that
      the musicians that are playing behind
      Drew, they’re like a jazz musicians. Um,
      it’s a group called the Broun Fellinis
      and according to their Instagram, they
      were also still going strong as of 2023.
      So cool.
      San Francisco is just like timeless. I
      guess things just never go away.
      They’re just like nothing changes and
      they’re literally still playing in Cafe
      Tree. Like they haven’t left. That’s
      what they mean when they say like still
      going. No, I’m just kidding. Um, so I
      know we talked about a bit about the
      photographs in the 1993 episode, but
      what can we even say about like I don’t
      know. These are really cool. So, it’s
      supposed to be, this is kind of the
      theme. It’s called Bohemian Rhapsody,
      and it says “berets and Burroughs,
      cappuccinos and Kerouac. Back in the
      50s, the beatnik scene was more brains
      than brawn and sleek was chic.”
      So, it’s just kind of like I think it’s supposed
      to be like
      homage poetry and cafe and, you know,
      beatniks and all that stuff, which is
      it totally comes across.
      It totally comes across. She looks like
      she’s from another time. Every single I
      mean I mean all the pictures that were
      printed she’s wearing a different
      outfit.
      Yeah. Gorgeous. Like I mean the Marilyn
      Monroe hair like you can’t that that is
      there. Undeniable. Undeniable. Yeah.
      Yeah. And all the pictures on the inside
      are sepia tone which I think is such a
      cool thing. Of course I would love to
      see them in color.
      Oh god. I never even thought about that
      as a possibility. That’s crazy.
      Wonder if they were shot in black and
      white though cuz
      Yeah, probably back in that day, right?
      Yeah, probably. I don’t know. I mean,
      there I’m sure they were shot on film
      1993.
      Oh, for sure. Yeah.
      And we do have outtakes um from this,
      like quite a few actually.
      Thank god.
      Some really sweet ones. Like I feel like
      she looks pretty serious in all of the
      ones that were printed. And then there
      are some like with kind of like you get
      more of a Drew silliness coming through
      like
      Yeah, that’s so true. What a great
      observation. You’re right. cuz she is
      laughing or being playful or silly in a
      lot of the outtakes, but none of the
      ones that they printed, which we talked
      about in our last episode. We felt like
      they were going for a more like mature
      version of her than what was normally in
      the press at this time was the bad girl
      in the black bra. Right.
      Right. I mean, even I even feel like it
      I think we talked about this a little
      bit, but this doesn’t feel like a 17
      magazine shoe cuz it feels so kind of
      mature. Like I feel I don’t even know
      like pluck almost like plucked out of
      Vogue which we’ll get into but it’s more
      like a fashion it almost looks like a high
      fashion shoot.
      Maybe that’s also why these two kind of
      go together so well for an episode cuz
      they do they kind of like live in the
      same space for some way. And the
      fact that there are like well I don’t
      know if we mentioned but so many of them
      were printed as a full page in the
      magazine which once again if you guys
      can’t appreciate that it’s probably
      because you are not paper collectors
      but like yeah I’ll say it again
      I love paper.
      Yeah.
      Yes. Especially full pages.
      Yes.
      Um, and then just the last little note
      that we have about um, this photo shoot,
      I guess, is that there’s one photo where
      she’s sitting on the countertop in the
      cafe and that was used as like the fan
      reply postcard for some time. And I feel
      like we got a copy from Rob, maybe Rob
      Brink.
      Yeah, I think it did come from him. I
      know we have another one from like an
      older shoot. So, she would like change
      them every once in a while and then I
      don’t even Does that exist anymore?
      Good question. There used to be a thing,
      guys, where you sent fan mail and you
      would get this like preprinted signed
      card back. Oh my god, the first one I
      got in the mail.
      I just remember that being so thrilling,
      which is so funny to think about.
      I know what mine was. Mine was like a
      JTT thing. And then I remember also
      writing to um Oh my god, now I’m going
      to forget the name of the actress who
      played the girl he like kissed in uh Tom
      and Huck.
      Rachel Leigh Cook.
      Rachel Leigh Cook. I wrote to her and said
      like she was so
      like why’d you kiss my man?
      I think I was said you’re lo so lucky to
      have worked with him and then I got like
      a fan reply picture of her too. Anyway,
      this was such a thing, guys. And like if
      you look in older magazines, you’ll see
      like a whole list of like write to your
      favorite celebrities.
      It’s cool. It was like definitely an a
      good little operation they had going
      this studio fan mail because like come
      on, she’s not going to be able to see
      all these letters, but at least you
      would get something back.
      It was just like a generic thing, but it
      was really sweet. And yeah, we’ve got a
      handful on the Drewseum’s website. So, it’s a
      fun it’s a fun physical media thing. Of
      course,
      it is. All right. Should we get into
      this little article? And I mean little.
      It’s a page, but it’s got some really
      great little chunks of info that, you
      know, we all love.
      Yeah.
      So, this article was written by Kevin
      Koffler,
      and the interview was done on a rainy
      day inside Drew’s cozy West Hollywood
      apartment. and this kind of like we’ve
      been working sort of on this
      figuring out where she lived in the ’90s
      like there early ’90s it’s very
      confusing.
      Um I think we are to understand she
      lived in this apartment and then she
      moved to a house when she got the money
      from guests is kind of what she said. So
      we’re before that.
      Mhm.
      And this is a very long little excerpt
      here at the beginning but it just sets
      the scene so beautifully. I felt like we
      had to include it. Right. We love these.
      So, it starts filled with the smoky haze
      of burning jasmine incense, the
      flickering flames and dancing shadows of
      votive candles, and the soft groovy
      sounds of Digable Planets. The room
      reflects the renewed sense of
      spirituality Drew says she has
      experienced since her broken engagement
      to actor Jamie Walters. And it
      continues, “Set against the far wall,
      somewhat a lost among the piles of books
      on dream interpretation, stacks of
      unread scripts, and a cornucopia of art
      and craft supplies, Drew’s enormous
      king-size antique bed functions as the
      room’s command central. Spun from layers
      of feather and foam, the bed creates a
      cushion, which Drew says protects her
      from the rest of the world.” And she’s
      right. Sinking into it is like floating
      on a big white fluffy cloud.
      I love it. It’s so cute.
      I couldn’t help but think of is it
      bizarre 96 where she like brings JVM
      into the bed and I was just thinking
      like oh
      my buddy JVM you’re totally right.
      Like I pictured it like oh did she
      invite him in? That’s where they did the
      interview. Like I don’t know.
      So cool. Yeah. I had to note like put a
      little pin in the dream interpretation
      book because that comes up in the next
      um article that we’re going to cover
      too. I just think that’s a little
      crossover. I totally had a dream
      interpretation book at one point.
      Same. Oh, of course. You could not be a
      teenager in the ‘9s without one.
      I would not have. Yeah. You put it next
      to your amethyst stones. Like, you know,
      wake up in the morning. Don’t forget
      your dream. Don’t forget your dream.
      Hurry, look it up. What’s it mean?
      That is okay. So, um, Drew tells a story
      of Jamie breaking up with her via the
      phone three days before she was to
      return to LA from Vancouver after
      filming The Amy Fisher Story. We’ve
      mentioned this a couple times.
      It’s like the third episode in a row,
      right? And I’m just like just reading it
      like um so we know that um we also know
      this, but he moved out of the house by
      the time she was back. So like basically
      separation really no closure.
      Yeah.
      She said that the time they spent apart
      really took a toll on their
      relationship. Like she was working in
      different places, so they had a place
      together but weren’t really like able to
      be together. And Drew described the
      breakup. She said, “I’ve never felt pain
      like this in my entire life.” And we’ve
      described this like we think it’s her
      first like major breakup as sort of an
      adult, even though she’s still so young.
      Yeah.
      Um she talked about that they tried to
      like date a little bit longer while they
      were living apart and it just didn’t
      work. Um she says, I think multiple
      times that Jamie was like her best
      friend that she had and she feels like
      like really pained that they’re losing
      that and she hopes they’d be friends
      again one day,
      which didn’t happen. But we know they’ve
      encountered each other.
      Yeah. I was like, I have to insert this
      photo of her running into him in 1999 at
      a charity event where she looks like
      just totally floored by seeing
      Yeah. Like literally hands on her
      forehead like what?
      Which is like what six years
      almost. Yeah. That’s crazy.
      Which feels like nothing on one and a
      lot on the other. Like so weird.
      Yeah.
      Okay. So, Drew explains that she’s
      working on her spiritual growth and
      changing her fashion style. And this is
      kind of a fun quote from her. She says,
      “I completely dressed in the grunge look
      when I was with Jamie. When we broke up,
      I burned all my flannels and started to
      dress like a girl again. I took out my
      old Agnes B suits, bought some new
      dresses, and started wearing bell
      bottoms with vintage jackets. I think my
      look is 40s meets 70s. And since I
      rarely go out at night anymore, I dress
      up wherever I go.
      Love it. A couple things I want to say
      like the 40s meets 70s thing. We
      actually bring that up when she does
      Boys on the Side. Like I think she
      referenced that and we were like, “Yes,
      that totally makes sense.” Right. So, I
      thought that was funny.
      I was trying to remember where we
      mentioned it cuz I was like, “We’ve
      totally mentioned it and we but we’ve
      both been like, “Yes,
      that’s it.”
      Yeah.
      Exactly.
      I couldn’t really find a lot of evidence
      that I felt was like, “Ooh, she was so
      grunge when they were together.” Uh,
      right.
      But you know, maybe in her mind. I also
      remember that quote, that thing about
      burning the flannels was one of the
      trivia questions in that newsletter that
      you and I met on.
      How funny.
      Like the only thing I remember.
      I also just like can’t picture her doing
      that.
      Like I kind of can, but I’m also like
      really did you burn them? Um,
      maybe it’s metaphorically.
      Yeah. Yeah. She talks about kind of
      going out because we talked about in the
      previous episode that she was more like
      homebody at this time and maybe like how
      comfy her bed is an indicative to a
      thing.
      Oh yeah, that’s a I love that point. And
      this was like the first time in her life
      pretty much that she’d been kind of a
      homebody. Like from the time she got
      famous it was like let’s go out, let’s
      go out, let’s go,
      hustle hustle and also party party. Um,
      so she says at this point in her life,
      she said the only club she likes to go
      to these days is Sound Factory in New
      York. She says it’s fun because everyone
      is in their own world and nobody bothers
      me there. It’s a place I can do my own
      thing and release about a year’s worth
      of tension in six hours of dancing.
      So fun. I looked that place up. I think
      it closed like two years after this,
      which is kind of like, oh, sorry, Drew.
      RIP.
      Jeez. Um, she says at home her night
      life usually consists of reading,
      writing, sewing, doing spin art, and
      painting with acrylics, which is so
      cute. I love it.
      I’m also like sewing. Did she really
      sew? How much is she doing?
      Um, and then there’s another quote here.
      She said, “After Jamie left, I lost
      every ounce of inspiration I had. I’d
      sit in bed with a pen in my hand and
      stare at a blank piece of paper before
      saying, “Forget it. Recently, it’s
      started to come back, so I’ve been on a
      creativity binge. I spend two hours
      doing things like making clothes. So, I
      want to ask I guess how soon after their
      breakup was like this done? Yeah.
      So, I mean it would have come out in
      April and we believe they broke up in
      December. So, really soon. Yeah. Very
      fresh. Uh I don’t know that image of
      her just like staring at a blank journal
      page like a made me so sad.
      Yeah.
      But yeah, it’s still pretty fresh.
      Yeah, totally. So, she talks about how
      after the successes of Poison Ivy, Gun
      Crazy, and the Amy Fischer story, she
      feels like she is done playing nymphets.
      And she says, quote, “For now, I don’t
      want to do anything sexual on screen.
      I’m grateful to have the opportunity to
      be selective, and I’m going to choose
      wisely.”
      It’s kind of like, I don’t need to be
      doing a Doppelganger anymore.
      Yep. Yep.
      No more bloody shower scenes for me.
      Why not?
      What’s wrong with that? Um, so the
      article ends with um Drew talking about
      trying to decide what to do about her
      James tattoo. So Drew had Jamie Walter’s
      name as James on her back. She says, “I
      haven’t gotten it removed yet. Maybe
      finding out he’s got his covered up will
      give me the incentive to do it. Not
      because I’m following him, but because
      that would be a true indication that
      it’s time to move on.” My mom is a total
      cynic about love, but I never was before
      Jamie. Now I understand her a little bit
      better.
      That’s how the article ends.
      And I also I always forget that he has
      Drew’s name.
      Yeah, we’ve I don’t think we’ve ever
      seen it. So very random coincidence. I
      was not looking for this, but in the
      last few weeks I found an article that
      he mentions this. So, he talks about in
      the November 94 issue of YM, I guess he
      discusses like that his friends told him
      like, “Don’t get her name tattooed
      across your back. You’re going to regret
      it. You’re going to break up.” Well,
      they were right. Um, but he says, “I had
      it touched up. It’s not exactly gone,
      but the specifics have changed. I would
      love to see a before and after of this.”
      Oh my god. I wonder if there’s anything
      out there. Well, we’ve talked about hers
      before and after where she said that the
      ink just bled, like his name just became
      illegible. And we’re not sure if
      that’s true because like it was shown on
      the Drew Barrymore show a couple years
      ago and it did not look like it bled. It
      looked like
      it was either blacked out or they like
      photoshopped his name out for the show,
      right? And I feel like we really
      couldn’t tell if it had been blacked out
      like with Photoshop or blacked out with
      tattooing. Right.
      Um,
      but anyway, them having gotten a name
      their names on each other is just like
      shows how kind of like intense that was,
      right? And they weren’t even together
      that long. It was like less than a year,
      you know? It’s just, well, but she’s 17.
      Like, of course, that’s what you’re
      going to do when you think you’re going
      to marry this guy,
      right? And she’s always just like, well,
      it’s the whole
      father figure thing. Not that he’s a
      father, but just like it, you know,
      messes kids up. Kids, it messes people
      up in relationships. She’s looking
      to quote home fries. That’s the kind of
      thing that messes kids up.
      Perfect.
      Perfect. Ashley, you always got to bring
      out the Drew quotes.
      They’re in my brain all the time. It’s
      all I think about now.
      You can even link it. The things the
      characters say to Drew’s life. That’s
      how embedded it is.
      Yeah, true.
      All right. So, we will get um into our
      next magazine after these messages.
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      All right, so let’s get back into our
      coverage of these fun 1993 magazines.
      And now we’re going to take a look at
      Vogue from June 1993. This one is not a
      cover feature, but there’s so much Drew
      content in it. There even is three or
      four guest ads. Do you remember that
      they’re in this issue? So, and these
      were like this was when they first
      started coming out. So, man, what a
      magazine to get back then as a fan.
      Like I said, I remember like getting in
      the mail. I remember being in my room at
      my dad’s house and like it’s finally
      here
      and being so precious about it. But um
      Naomi Camel is on the cover and last I
      looked I was just kind of like browsing
      eBay.
      They were expensive like $50 70 for this
      issue. Yeah. So good luck guys if you
      don’t have it already.
      Wow.
      Yeah. Crazy.
      Kind of wild. So, as we’ve mentioned
      many, many times, this photo shoot was
      done by Ellen von Unwerth, and this was
      their first collaboration together, and
      they would go on to do like 10 plus. So,
      they worked together a ton. They always
      made beautiful images together. They
      just have like a special chemistry when
      it comes to taking pictures,
      you know? It feels like beautiful is an
      understatement somehow. Like, it’s We
      are obsessed with many of them. We’ve
      done an episode. Go look it up.
      We’ve done an episode all about their
      staff together.
      Yes. The hair for this one was done by
      Peter Savic and the makeup was done by
      Tracy Martin. And these photos were
      taken in New York in March 1993 and they
      were done at Coney Island and then also
      at the Royalton Hotel in NYC. So, it’s
      kind of fun because like the last one,
      there’s like two different locations
      going on. And once I knew that, I could
      really start seeing that in the photos
      like, “Oh, these are from the Coney
      Island batch and these are from the
      hotel.” Which is fun,
      right? Cuz I hadn’t even actually when I
      look at them, I was thinking more I
      think we when we mentioned in the last
      episode, I was totally just picturing
      Coney Island like all the outside and
      I’m like, “Oh, yeah.” But I feel like
      the ones that are in my mind prominent
      from the hotel are out takes.
      Interesting. Okay. Cuz I feel like the
      more glammed up ones where she’s in like
      silky robes and pajamas and also nothing
      at all except for some really fun shoes,
      those I think are the hotel batch. And
      then all the like fun playful outside
      ones are obviously Coney Island.
      I think the Coney Island ones come to
      mind first
      and then it’s like oh yeah, the one with
      the like her naked in the sofa seat
      is like in that too. Like I’m like oh
      that like I don’t know. It’s sort of a
      It is Anyway, it is fun to identify that
      just like it is like with guests with
      the guest things like totally here’s
      there’s a three different places.
      Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
      Um anyways, so these are also stunning.
      I mean, what did we say about the last
      ones? How do we even talk about this?
      I know we’ve talked about them so many
      times. You guys, we will have we
      always say this, but we always have an
      episode page on how to.com where you can
      see all of the photos that we’re talking
      about today. So, go check that out. Um,
      yes,
      most of these are full page as well.
      Yes. Hell yeah. Um, and then the very
      first one I was reading the credits.
      It’s cute. It’s her like running on the
      beach with the seagulls and those were
      her own combat boots which she did wear
      a lot at this time. So, I thought that
      was really neat. I love it. And I also
      love that like I was looking closer at
      some of the pictures and that one with
      the seagulls. I was like, “Oh, it looks
      like she’s like cold and wearing the
      jacket that she was just like wearing on
      set.” And that was just one of the
      pictures. Like, uh, I love it. Um
      there’s some really be like just
      stunning pictures in this. Um actually
      weirdly similar to the last ones, a lot
      of them are not in color.
      Yeah.
      And again like sometimes I wonder is it
      like if you look at People
      magazine from the 80s 90s. They were
      always black and white for the most part
      and then like it finally switched over.
      Like that’s how old timey we are. I
      guess that we like were growing up in
      the time that magazines are like keep it
      black and white. It’s cheaper.
      Yeah. So, it’s funny with these like I
      feel like it’s very intentional
      like anyway. Yeah. I don’t know. I think
      one of the ones that’s color where it
      looks like she’s sitting on like a
      merry-go-round is so vibrant that it’s
      almost like shocking
      that cuz it’s like got that bold red and
      she’s got bright red lips.
      Yeah. It is so bright and so saturated.
      Yeah. And she has bright red lips in I
      guess both of the shoots. The one from
      Coney Island and the um hotel in New
      York because there also is one color one
      from the hotel as well. And it’s so like
      dreamy and I feel like that picture she
      looks like an old movie star.
      Oh, for sure. Yeah, the hotel ones are
      definitely giving old, you know, classic
      Hollywood vibes just which she pulls off
      so well, especially back in this day,
      right? and she has like kind of the
      Marilyn hair again like she had in the
      17 shoot.
      Um I will say I feel like some of my
      favorite ones from the shoot I sort of
      end up like forgetting there from this.
      So like the one where we have this
      out taken I think I have it printed from
      some magazine that’s like her back.
      She’s like sitting on the bed and you
      can see this beautiful shot of
      like I forget that that falls within
      this photo shoot.
      It feels like a totally different vibe
      for sure. I would agree with that. And
      the one with her behind the fence like
      kissing.
      Love.
      We love these. And yeah, I think I
      wish I could remember like I said
      like the exact moment I got them, but I
      remember it was one of those like
      coveted.
      Absolutely
      coveted. I will say this is going back
      to the Guess ads thing, but I feel
      like I remember that like the Guess ads
      are printed like on like the front and
      back of each other and maybe some of
      these are too and that bothered me cuz I
      don’t know
      because you want to display both of them
      somehow. You can. I mean, you can, but
      you know, I don’t know. I just remember
      that about it. Love paper, but sometimes
      you got to deal with what’s on the back
      of a page.
      You probably wanted to put them on your
      wall. Let’s be honest. And it was like,
      which one do I pick?
      Right. Probably. I don’t I think by
      this time I probably wouldn’t have put
      like the articles on my wall cuz or like
      the feature.
      Um anyway, yeah, I don’t think we can do
      justice for the visuals of like either
      of these. So, do please make sure you go
      to our website and check out the episode
      page and enjoy them because they’re
      gorgeous.
      They’re delicious.
      Delicious. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. So,
      let’s jump into this article. Um, so
      this was written by David Handelman. And
      I like how you said the beginning is
      kind of confusing because it is a weird
      way to like start an article.
      I probably read it like four times
      before I really understood what was
      going on.
      What’s happening? Right.
      Okay. So, the article has a very weird
      and confusing opening. I’ve literally
      read it like four times to try to
      understand what was going on because it
      just drops us right in and says that
      Drew is being schmoozed at the Russian
      TA room in New York City by Broadway
      producer Fred Zollo. and he’s apparently
      telling her a story about how he and the
      like writer director David Mamet and
      another director Gregory Mosher were
      considering Drew for the lead in what I
      understood to be the film adaptation of
      their play Oleanna. So just
      there you go. That’s what I think
      was going on.
      Okay.
      And they were all apparently like
      discussing her age like oh isn’t she a
      little isn’t she that little girl from
      ET? And one of them said, “No, she’s a
      big girl now.” And I just thought that
      was like
      gross, right? Like just what a way to
      say that.
      Yeah.
      And then like as all this is being told
      to her, the author says that Drew quote
      weathers all of this with a trooper
      smile, she’s had a lot of practice. And
      it just like that hit for me too as
      like, oh, he’s he was also thinking it
      was creepy, but Drew’s like totally
      dealt with this forever, so she knows
      what to do. And probably once again it’s
      like her professionalism is coming out
      like she knows how to imagine having to
      know how to deal with like
      that. I don’t know. She’s got so much grace.
      It’s kind of amazing.
      And yeah. Anyway, I just like the rest
      of the article is so great. I’m like why
      did we start with this weird tone here?
      Like
      I don’t know. It was a choice.
      Yeah, totally. Um the author kind of
      says that um everyone always asks how
      old Drew is because people associate her
      with Gertie. So at this time it’s like
      it’s closer to like her child’s stardom,
      you know, than we can kind of like think
      about. It’s sort of wild. Like we’re
      we’re just 11 years from ET. So like
      I know that feels like a lot, but it’s
      like really relatively not. Um so people
      think that she’s older than she is
      because of what she’s gone through in
      her life. We talk about this all the
      time. So, the author kind of just like
      lists a couple of things. Stardom,
      drugs, rehab, the people cover story,
      which is about the rehab,
      bestselling autobiography, she’s gone
      through being an easy punchline, uh, gay
      icon,
      um, and comeback star like this. So,
      she’s gone through all that and she’s
      what? She’s just turning 18. Like,
      yeah,
      it’s a fun list, honestly. Like, I hate
      to say the easy punchline is true,
      sadly. Like, Because at that time
      especially like oh 13year-old on drugs
      haha let’s make fun of her right there’s
      no sympathy back then and I found the
      gay icon part kind of interesting
      because I agree but at this time that
      feels like interesting that that was
      noted you know
      yeah totally I mean is it do we think
      it’s because of like Poison Ivy her
      having kissed Sarah Gilbert Poison Ivy
      is that what it was
      maybe I didn’t think about that
      was it the nudity with other women in
      interview like what was it
      yeah you’re right I was thinking more
      like gay guys love her, but you’re
      right. It could be that.
      Both. It’s both, right? Um, so just like
      one more thing about her age. So she had
      just turned 18 earlier in the year and
      she just says like it meant she could
      buy cigarettes,
      which like imagine she’s been smoking
      for eight years at this point. Like and
      she’s just getting them like without
      legally being allowed to buy them.
      Crazy,
      right? And before that, I’m sure it was
      just like nobody would question.
      Yeah.
      She just turned on that charm.
      Exactly. But she kind of explains like
      technically she’s been a legal adult
      since her emancipation at age 15. So
      it’s like weird. Anyway, once again,
      like how old is this person?
      I also like I’ve tried to understand it
      like look up what it means when you’re
      emancipated.
      Like there’s some things you can do, but
      like you still can’t do other things
      like buy cigarettes. Right.
      Right.
      Um she says that she celebrated her
      birthday by playing mini golf with
      friends. So, we kind of went into this
      again the last episode, but like lowkey,
      keeping it personal, private, simple,
      friends. Yeah.
      Yeah. Totally.
      Okay. So, we get the usual, as we always
      do, backstory about her childhood. You
      know, there is a very brief mention of
      her working at a video store to quote
      experience what I thought was a normal
      life. And I was like, oh, that’s
      familiar. So, I went and looked and in
      Little Girl Loss, she mentions this as
      well. She says it was around age 12. And
      I remember we were both just like, what?
      What? Yeah. And she had to work there
      because Jaid wanted her to earn her own
      spending money and
      she didn’t earn any of that other money.
      Yeah. All the money you guys are living
      on, Drew did earn. So, okay.
      Yeah. Okay.
      And then the article also mentions Jade
      taking her to quote the exclusive club
      Helena’s to party with Jack and
      Angelica. And that was fun to see
      because that was the unnamed club in
      Little Girl Loss that we IDed like that
      I figured out was that place. So I was
      like, “Yep, okay, I was right.”
      Yep. Check, check.
      Yep. And then it finishes with saying
      while recovering, she lived variously
      with boyfriends, which
      puke cuz she’s like 14 or 15 years old.
      What the hell are we talking about?
      And other adults, including rehab singer
      David Crosby and his wife. And then it
      says and former groupie Pamela Des Barres.
      And I don’t think that’s there a shred
      of like truth to that. I’ve like because
      I remember Drew at one point was like
      rumored to maybe be playing her in a
      movie about her life and like it didn’t
      sound like they knew each other at all,
      but like Pamela was like she’s the new
      age of groupies, you know, was like when
      she was
      following Hole around as we mentioned.
      Yeah. So this is dropped in there as if
      that’s
      where that came from. Yeah, it’s so
      weird.
      That is so interesting. Okay, so then we
      are on the day of the shoot cold and on
      the beach. So this is like you see it in
      the pictures. I think I was mentioning
      she’s like wearing a jacket in the one
      with the seagulls.
      Yeah.
      In the article it says though her teeth
      chatter and her luminous skin starts to
      turn blue, she never once complains. In
      fact, she’s exceedingly polite, ardently
      thanking everyone who helps her or pays
      her a compliment. And when she tosses
      some pieces of bagels at the
      birds, she seems genuinely shocked when
      they immediately swarm around her.
      “Wow,” she says with a beating smile.
      “They’re all coming. They don’t do this
      in LA.”
      I love that paragraph. Like, of course,
      of course, she’s not complaining. She’s
      professional. She’s polite. She’s sweet.
      And of course, Drew is the person that
      appreciates seagulls. Like, I’m always
      like, “Ah, they’re going to STEAL MY
      FOOD.
      WHY ARE THEY SWARMING?” She’s like,
      “Please swarm.” It’s just so funny.
      So cute.
      That’s our girl, her perching birdies.
      Yeah, totally.
      So, there’s brief talk about her time
      where she was snubbed by Hollywood. She
      says, “People wouldn’t touch me. They
      just thought I was some loser drug
      addict. I thought I would never work
      again. Believe me, going from being the
      most famous child in the world to doing
      an afterschool special is kind of a
      bummer.”
      which like I like that she talks about
      that because I don’t feel like
      she really ever has touched on you know
      you the after school special of
      course is 15 and getting straight and
      she briefly mentions it in little girl
      Los but not as like wow this look how
      far I’ve come
      look at the like juxtaposition of like
      that’s pretty and here’s like this girl
      in whatever in fake rehab but real rehab
      post-real rehab
      fake rehab post rehab at the real
      in THE REAL REHAB
      SO, it mentions how instead of going
      down the like classic bad path for child
      stars, Drew instead sobered up,
      rededicated herself, and reinvented
      herself, eventually landing Poison Ivy
      and Gun Crazy. And yeah, she did
      reinvent herself. Yes, she was only 16,
      17, but she reinvented herself as a sex
      symbol because she knew that was the way
      to get away from the child. Yeah, she
      was right.
      So, it says that a week before filming
      Gun Crazy, she cut her hair. I’ll tell
      we’ll talk about this, but we think that
      might be an exaggeration that it was a
      week before.
      Yeah. Based on another quote we have
      later on and also like I just think that
      that’s an exaggeration.
      Right. Exactly. So anyway, it says she
      um it says 16-year-old Drew and her
      roommate saw the movie 21 and were so
      charmed by Patsy Kensit’s look that they
      cut off all their hair. And it says um
      Tamra Davis, who was the director, she
      said, “The producers freaked out. But I
      thought it was great. A stroke of
      genius. It was so messed up looking,
      this dorky looking haircut. It was
      perfect for the character.”
      Which makes sense because the girl she
      plays in Gun Crazy is like an outcast.
      She’s not sexy and cool. like she’s
      she’s quote unquote bad girl because
      she’s like wrong side of the tracks and
      she’s promiscuous but it’s because she’s
      been abused and like yeah she’s not the
      she’s not like Ivy for sure
      she they had to like it’s actually
      almost weird to like think that the girl
      who played Ivy and I don’t remember her
      name and Gun crazy
      Anita
      Anita so like that those are the same
      person and within that short amount of
      time like
      months apart
      right it’s amazing
      but can you imagine Gun crazy with her
      like Poison Ivy hair?
      No, she did the right thing. So,
      she spoke about that in MovieLine 1992,
      which we have an episode about. It’s a
      really, really juicy article, the
      juiciest article we’ve ever done if you
      guys really want some dirt. Um, but she
      says in that when I was getting ready
      for my second audition on Gun Crazy,
      which I believe that makes a little more
      sense to me,
      she says in which the girl is going to
      find cool because she’s so uncool. I
      thought, “What if I’m just sexy with all
      this hair and what if the producers
      think I can’t do the role because I have
      long hair?” So, I took scissors and cut
      it all off.
      It’s also like her saying it that way,
      like she would dare to risk it is also
      like what was the real decision like?
      It’s kind of wild.
      It’s pretty fun though.
      Yeah, it is. It is very fun. So, she
      debuted the short hair at the premiere
      of My Own Private Idaho on October 11th
      of 1991. And we believe that Gun Crazy
      was filmed sometime in November. So
      yeah. So it makes a little more sense. I
      don’t think like she’d be about to go in
      front of the cameras and be like
      surprise.
      Right. Right.
      Yeah. Exactly. So we get into Drew’s
      usual self-deprecating talk about not
      thinking that she’s a good actress and
      how she’ll never talk about like quote
      unquote craft or like motivation in the
      way that somebody who’s like very um
      what do they call that? Method acting.
      Yeah. So, she says, “I just have a good
      ability at adapting characters and
      becoming them. I appreciate technical
      actors, but I’m different. I want to
      have a personal, emotional, physical
      freedom, never hold back.” It is funny
      how she’s always kind of talked about
      like method, but then I feel like when
      she did like riding Cars with Boys, she
      almost kind of did method.
      I would say that and Gray Gardens are the
      exception. But other than that, I mean,
      even as recently as the last few years,
      I’ve heard her say on her show like,
      “Oh, I’m I don’t think I’m a good
      actress. like I just know how to become
      other people. Which is kind of funny.
      It’s like well
      that is the that is the task.
      It’s almost like how she doesn’t want to
      put the label of sober on herself. It’s
      like it comes with a heavier connotation
      than just being like, “Oh, I just know
      how to play characters.”
      All right. I love this part. I love this
      little collection of tidbits.
      Oh my gosh. Yeah. This is what it’s all
      about. The tidbits galore. And the
      author just starts running them down.
      And this is
      Why do I love it so much?
      I don’t know. Oh, I always have, you
      know, just occurred to me. I almost
      could trace it to the old Drew fan sites
      that Missy Munday ran. She had something
      called the kooky facts jar.
      Yes.
      You remember this? And you would click
      and it’ be a picture of Drew with one
      little fact and then you’d click and it
      changed to a new one. And I almost
      wonder if that’s like where this comes
      from for me.
      So deeply ingrained that we’re like
      lists of little facts. Anyway, talk
      about our website again. We’ve got a
      Drew details section of the Drewseum where
      we’ve got just like lists of facts.
      Yep. And it was totally inspired by the
      kooky facts and yeah, we call it Drew
      Details and it’s just a huge list of
      these kinds of fun things. So, let’s
      talk about what is mentioned in this
      article. So, she claims to be anemic,
      claustrophobic, and insomniac. And we
      like the sleep thing has always been an
      issue for her.
      Yep. She hates regret, but later on she
      apparently says she regrets having
      pierced each ear with four holes.
      Um, she thought her BMW was too prissy
      and now she loves her prized possession,
      her Bronco, which of course we’ve talked
      about last episode as well.
      Yep.
      She owns a 357 Magnum gun. And that
      might feel a little weird to you guys,
      but in details 1993, she says it was a
      gift from Jamie. So, I think
      it’s weird still. Like, I’m like, what?
      It is still weird. I think it’s one of
      those Jamie like remnants. I, you know,
      I think that cross necklace you wore all
      the time in ’92 was from him. I think
      these were like things that were like,
      “Oh, Jamie gave this to me.” And then
      like he’s gone and eventually those
      things are gone.
      Those things faded away as well.
      Burn the gun with the flannel.
      I feel like it’s like a very like I had
      a very like I forgot. I think
      I’ve probably read it multiple times and
      been like, “Whoa, it just seems very
      weird for her.”
      Yep.
      She talks about the mixing of styles of
      1940s and 1970s with thrift store finds.
      And she says that she likes to wear this
      Dolce & Gabbana quote unquote happy hat
      and platform shoes. Um, you pulled a
      picture of a hat that she wore. This is
      something that she wore like multiple
      times. That maybe is the one, right? Is
      that a beret?
      Yeah, it’s the only one I could think.
      Well, I think it’s actually a little bit
      more like a news boy cap cuz I searched
      Dolce and Gabbana hats from that time.
      And I think she’s just wearing it
      backwards.
      Backwards.
      Yeah. Which is kind of fun.
      She says her idea of fun is playing
      pinball at 7-Eleven. And she said she
      once ran into the director John
      Singleton playing pinball,
      which is so weird because as we
      mentioned in our last episode, this same
      year, 93, they like share a cover of a
      magazine called Dirt where Drew’s face
      is the top half and his face is the
      bottom half. It’s like kind of funny.
      Maybe they decided when they met each
      other.
      They’re like, “Hey, do you know Spike
      Jones?” Me, too. Let’s do this weird
      cover together. Do you want to be the
      bottom half? I’ll be the top half. I
      don’t know. Sounds good.
      And then she says that she’s
      superstitious and mentions over the
      course of a few days that she had wished
      on a planet, visited a psychic,
      monitored her mood ring, and consulted
      her Dreamology book.
      Oh, there’s that book we were talking
      about. And here’s the like little kind
      of tidbit about like looking up a dream.
      She said that she had looked up a dream
      about pizza with sour cream and peas and
      found out that peas indicated good luck.
      And soon after she booked the guest
      campaign. She’s psychic.
      Psychic pea seer.
      Have your peas on your pizza and then
      star in guest jeans.
      [Laughter]
      Okay. And then um she said that her few
      wrinkles make her make her worried that
      she’ll age as fast as her dad, which
      it’s just like what? You have such a
      baby face.
      First of all, what wrinkles?
      Yes. And in 93.
      And second of all, her dad like, come
      on, girl. You’re okay. But then we love
      when she mentions her dad because it
      always results in some kind of like
      amazingly fun
      exploration of that relationship.
      Y
      So she says, “It’s strange because I see
      a lot of similarities between us and I
      usually groove hard on the type of free
      spirit he is. Someone who travels around
      with a duffel bag, rides a bicycle, and
      doesn’t wear shoes because he believes
      it’s not right. But he’s also tormented
      and up. Doesn’t have his life
      together and never wants to get it
      together. And I can’t stand quitters. He
      had an amazing career ahead of him and
      it all away on drugs. Maybe I
      did too, but I realized it and learned
      from my mistakes.
      O
      O is right.
      So many It like sums it all up right
      there.
      It does. Um she doesn’t really elaborate
      on it, but she says that she says that
      her and her mom don’t really speak and
      that it’s probably just a phase,
      which as we all know, nope.
      That phase, they’re still in it.
      I know. Like the only little
      interruption of that phase was when she
      was with Tom Green and briefly they
      reconciled but other than that like from
      as far as we know like 90 late 92 on her
      and Jade were no longer speaking.
      Yep.
      So the article ends with Drew talking
      about how she loves to visit her family
      stars on the Walk of Fame, which it’s
      neat to think like she was still 10 plus
      years away from getting her own. So
      she’s just like, “Oh, my family’s here.”
      And she talks about how she always
      kisses her grandfather’s profile in the
      cement outside the Chinese theater,
      which is so sweet and also so gross when
      you think about all the
      I was gonna say, I hope I hope every
      time she wiped it off beforehand, but
      it’s literally on the ground.
      Kiss her hand and then put that on the
      ground. That I could deal with.
      All right.
      But she says, “It has nothing to do with
      being star struck. It’s kind of pathetic.
      It’s the only link I have to them
      because I want to have a family. I’m
      sure I won’t feel I have one until I
      have my own.
      So, I know. And then she continues,
      “When I was younger, I felt, how can I
      live up to my family? I’m Hollywood
      royalty. Me, a kid who eats macaroni and
      cheese.
      It made me nervous. I never wanted to
      let them down, have people say, “God,
      this acting dynasty, what the hell
      happened to their granddaughter?” But I
      finally decided, God is not going to
      come down and punish me if I don’t do
      them justice. I can only try. And that’s
      where we end. It’s kind of interesting,
      too. I don’t feel like she ever
      really talks about the pressure of being
      from this grand acting family,
      you know, like she always embraced it,
      which is awesome. But yeah, there is
      like people looking at you like, “Oh,
      are you going to be the next big amazing
      actress?” You know,
      right. Okay. Yeah. So, it ends that way,
      which again is like it’s hopeful. We
      like when she’s thinking in this way.
      Um, there was a letter to the editor
      that was printed in a later issue and it
      said, “Thanks for the article on Drew
      Barrymore. She’s a wonderful actress in
      person. She seems like the sweetest
      woman on earth and I give her much
      credit for her four years of sobriety.”
      That’s so sweet.
      That’s nice.
      So sweet.
      So sweet.
      Another little piece for the kind
      comments corner.
      Yeah.
      Yeah. I liked this little I mean, we
      love an excuse to go through these. I
      think I like doing the articles because
      that it’s like I think I already said
      it, but like it gives us an excuse to
      like go into some of the little details.
      Yeah. And there’s always things that I
      forgot. Even as many times as I’ve read
      some of these, especially the ones from
      the ‘9s, I always come away going like,
      “Oh, whoa, I forgot about that little
      thing.”
      I mean, I guess also I realize it’s like
      one of the only times we get her voice.
      Yeah. Yeah,
      cuz it’s that and it’s like interviews
      on shows which we haven’t really jumped
      into much in our podcast. But that’s why
      it’s so fun. We get to like explore her
      as a person and not as the
      uh things she’s pretending to be,
      right? Especially the ones that like are
      in her normal life. Those are our
      favorites when they’re like at her house
      or they’re hanging out at a restaurant
      together or she’s opening up her purse
      and showing them all the contents. Like
      right, you know, we love Drew the
      actress, but we love Drew the person
      even more. this kid who eats macaroni
      and cheese.
      Yeah. It’s like I love that. I love
      that. Like she still is that kid eating
      macaroni and cheese.
      She’s still that kid.
      She’s probably, you know, like one of
      the reasons she is so playful and fun is
      I feel like she still is that little
      girl, but also she had to be an adult so
      early that she like taps into that kid
      and lives her childhood.
      That’s why her age never makes sense,
      right? Because she’s also five. She
      never got to be five or six years old.
      Too much stress on her. Too much career.
      Too much earning the money for family
      household.
      You got to learn how to earn your own
      money.
      Um, what?
      What have I been doing since the 80s,
      Mom?
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How Do You Drew Episode 119 – Year in Review: 1993

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I’m an
and I’m Ashley
And this week we will be
discussing the year 1993 in Drew
Barrymore’s life and career
This is a fun one
Oo, we love 93 Drew
Yes, we do
And we’ve got some stuff at
the top, guys
So, let’s get into this
So, let’s start with a little oopsy
daisy
But the facts just came out to
us, guys
This is very This is a very
weird oopsy daisy, I got to say
It’s also a cosmic coincidence, I would
say
Yes, totally
So, the day before our
last episode aired,
which was about Drew’s romantic
relationship history, we had very
briefly touched on Rodney Harvey and we
said we had reason to believe that he
was involved with her romantically in
1989 based on what we’d uncovered doing
Little Girl Lost
So the day
before that episode comes out, Billy Bob
Thornton goes on the Drew Barrymore show
again and he was his first appearance on
Drew’s show was one of our reasons for
thinking Rodney and her were involved
So he once again told the story about
first meeting Drew on the set of the TV
show The Outsiders
because she was there visiting Rodney on
the set
And he was like
both times tiptoeing around it a little
bit, right
like, “Is it okay if I say
who you were visiting
And he’s
like, “Well, you you were dating him
“
And then he says, “Rodney Harvey
” And
she’s like, “Oh
” And she had a big
reaction like, “Oh, you know, cuz he’s
passed away
” And then she said, “No, we
were actually just friends
” And he’s
and Billy Bob’s like surprised
And he’s
like, “What
” Uh, like he’s almost gonna
argue with her
and he says something about like
something that happened at a party and
then she just said, “No, he was actually
dating my friend
” And he also said
like, “Well, he definitely wanted to be
with you
So, okay
I don’t This is almost like a
correction for our Patreon because we
pretty much identified Rodney as
somebody in the book and now I’m
thinking that could be incorrect
And it does sort of track with one
of the National Enquirer articles that
Rodney was actually dating Ellie Keats,
who was Drew’s friend and roommate at
the time in 1989
So, we don’t know
And
I I like how on the show Drew is like,
“Boys are so confusing
” Like as if as
she’s like, “I didn’t know he liked me
“
Something like that
But I also feel
like, okay, maybe it is true that he
dated Ellie Keats, but maybe it’s also
true that they did and she’s just like,
that’s true
Billy Bob seemed to have a
very clear idea of something that had
happened, which would make it seem like
they weren’t just
like, well, he wanted to be with you
I
gotta say, um,
he’s like, I saw you making out
No, I’m
just kidding
I do find it so interesting that this
has come up both times
like both times he’s been on and
and you’re right in the same kind of
like should I say who it is
Um yeah, so there’s a little oopsy daisy
but we’re
put an asterisk by Rodney’s name and you
know that’s probably all we’ll ever know
because Drew apparently does not think
they dated
So that changes literally
the episode we just released
God damn it, Drew
No, just kidding
How dare you
How dare you have facts
about in your brain about you that we
don’t have
what a weird what a weird like life that
we live that this is like
we’re like hot facts about 1989 and like
hot hot tips the tea about 1989 is 89
All right
So I guess we can move on to
things that Drew loved
She might have
loved Rodney
No, I’m just kidding
Let’s uh let’s hear what
Drew’s proclaimed her love for this this
uh past week
I love love
All right
Drew loves burgers
She loves when people are pulled
She always wants to know what the people
have to say, you know
She loves tartar sauce
Biscuits and gravy
The red, yellow, green flag game that
they see when they play that
Yeah, that
is a fun one
She loves chili oil
A Douglas
her little doggy
She loves storytelling
payoffs
I like that one
She loves a state fair
Theme parks
An ottoman
Apple juice
Rosemary
I love rosemary
And then,
similar to chili oil, she also loves
chili crisp
Should we go see what’s in
the mail
You’ve got mail
Yeah, we have some cool ones
We have a
new review on Apple Podcast
And before
we get to that, we’re going to mention
this
So, the film history podcast,
Verbal Diorama
Um I listened to her Donnie
Darko episode
So, it’s this um woman
named M
She’s from the UK and she is so
like I want to just like mention this
real quick
She’s so like clean and
snappy and like gives you this
information and she’s like telling you
everything
Boom boom boom
And it’s
really easy to follow and it’s fun to
listen to cuz normally I like um a
two person podcast
And she just
like gives you the info in such a great
way and her voice is so lovely
So shout
out to M for being great and her Donnie
Darko episode was so good
But she does a recommendation
in her newsletter for podcast of the
week and she chose us
A that’s so cool
Okay, so she said for her
podcast of the week, she said, “This is
where I recommend a podcast I’ve
listened to this week and an episode you
might enjoy
Speaking of legends, Drew
Barrymore is one of the Hollywood’s most
beloved of all legends and I’m a huge
fan of quote my girl Drew unquote
“
Slightly bigger fans of Drew are Ann and
Ashley
So much so they have a whole
podcast dedicated to Drew Barrymore
How
do you Drew
They
also have a kick-ass podcast episode on
one of my personal favorites, Charlie’s
Angels 2000, which is celebrating its
25th anniversary this year
She said,
“Anne and Ashley also run the Drew, the
internet’s longest running Drew
Barrymore fan site
They have over 25
years of Drewbie expertise, and they’ve
even met the delightful Miss Barrymore
in person
” That’s some serious
credentials for any podcast
I like that
little line
Yeah, me too
And then this this fun little end
She
said, “If you want something new and you
too love Drew, this podcast and its crew
is for you
” It’s true
like like new jingle
Do we need like
this podcast
for you
That was That was terrible
Thank you so much
Verbal diorama
Go
check them out
Thank you, M
That was really sweet
We
We love a little shout out and a
recognition of the work that was done
Like that’s really Thank you
And then, as I mentioned, we also
have a new Apple podcast review
Thank
you so much
This is from Staceface
McGee
Could be my friend Stacy from
Blockbuster Wives
I have a feeling
Uh
the title is best Drew podcast there is
And Staceface writes, “These drewbies
really know their stuff and pour hours
of research into every episode
Plus,
they are also so hilarious and fun
“
Thank you, Staceace McGee
And we love an Apple podcast review
So,
yes, we do
We were way overdue
This is your cue for a review
M, look what you started
You have turned us into rhyming
monsters
There’s a verbal diorama
happening over here
Okay, so um let’s go back in time for
this week in Drew history
Okay, you know I love talking about
these awards in December 5th, 1987
in a sequence of years that Drew
attended the youth and film awards
And
I just find these like endlessly
fascinating
There’s just something
about 80s child stars that is just
it’s crazy
And like the people that
like they’re all people we recognize and
know even today
I was they still do
these awards
Did you know that
No, I was just going to say like I
wonder if this is still a thing
Yeah, they’ve rebranded but I was
looking at like the last one that had a
list of all the like nominees and I
literally didn’t know a single name
So, it’s not what it was and that’s
probably good
Child stardom is not a
positive thing
I think there’s just so
much content that it’s hard to have like
stars as big as there were at a certain
time, right
Like this is Yeah
the 80s
pinnacle
So, these were held at the
Hollywood Palladium and they were hosted
by Chad Allen and Patrick Dempsey, which
I thought was kind of fun because later
on Drew would be such good friends with
his wife Jillian
Yeah, that is funny
Drew was nominated
for best young female superstar in
television for Babes in Toyland because
I guess technically that’s considered
television but she lost to Alyssa Milano
and she was pictured with her peers
there like Wil Wheaton, Corey Haim,
Amanda Peterson
There is a picture of
her with Lala Sloatman and Donovan
Leitch
And I found that interesting
because they were both like from the
Zappa House crew that we just kind of
like found out in the last year that
Drew spent a lot of time there in this
year 87
So I just thought that was very
like validating to see
You’re like, “Oh, this is like
evidence
“
Totally
evidence of this
And I feel like, you know, this is
1987
It’s such an awkward time for her,
but she does look really cute
is like
just very plain black dress but like
kind of adult
Yeah, she’s definitely trying to look a
little like more grown up
She’s got her
little string of pearls
She still have her braces
It’s hard to
tell, but yeah, it is so fun
And also
that she was nominated for Babes in Toy
Land is so I know that movie
that’s comical, right
Just if you guys haven’t seen it,
Christmas is coming
Give yourself a
little gift and watch Babes in Toy Land
And then come back and listen to our
episode laughing about it
I think what
she told when Keanu Reeves was on, I
think she called it that that
masterpiece, Babes in Toilet
Oh my god
It’s good stuff
So, I guess we can come back to the
present for a minute before we go back
in time again
We’re always jumping around
Let’s talk about what’s new with
Drew
Here we go with the news, everybody
Okay, so we have a new MSC Cruise Line
commercial coming because Drew was
spotted filming one with Orlando Bloom
actually on the ship in the Bahamas
Um,
so maybe another Super Bowl ad
Like the
timing could work out for that
That
would be a good guess
Um,
I bet you’re right
We’ll see what that’s like
And then the only other thing is that
Hollywood Squares has an official
premiere date for season 2 and that will
be on January 7th, 2026
Looking forward to that
We’ve really
enjoyed this show
If you guys haven’t
heard us, like love on it
Like really
exciting
I was kind of bummed to see
that they used a promo photo from the
previous season, but
same you know me with like reusing
photos
And of course, we’re excited to see
how cute her outfits are cuz every
season they’ve had such fun with her
fashion
So like
Yeah
Her outfits and her hairstyles are
always different
It’s going to be
really fun
Have we had any like peaks of that
Like
very small
There’s been like maybe a
couple pictures
So, it’s going to
be a lot of new excitement
And I also really liked when they would
do that little speed round where they’d
have a fact about everybody, but we
would I would like collect them all and
we do it
I’m excited to do that again
Yeah, me too
They always had
some fun little like things that even if
they didn’t trip us up, it’s like that’s
a good one for something to trip
somebody else about
Drew,
a non-expert
Like wasn’t one of them like she hates
yoga which
Yeah
All right, so um I guess
we’re ready to go back in time again
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All right, so shall we jump into our
weekly topic of 1993
Ah, this is a good one
Like we’ve I
feel like we’ve definitely done 92, 94,
95, 96
Like we need to get 93 in here
Sometimes that happens, guys
We’re just
like going with our heart on what topic
we we discuss
Which is funny because like most of the
time we do things so like perfectly
chronologically like we want everything
organized just right
But like with the
podcast, no, we’re just like whatever we
feel
Imagine if we had like started
from birth and we were just like going
through chronological
No,
that wouldn’t be nearly as fun
So, if you haven’t listened
to the ones that bookend this, go ahead
and check those out
But, uh, let’s let’s jump in and set the
scene for this year because there are a
couple We like to kind of give like the
this is what she’s going through
This
is how she’s going into the year, right
So, we’re just off of Drew’s like
really big comeback year of 1992 where
she starred in the movie Poison Ivy,
which was released that year, and she
had received a Golden Globe nomination
for Gun Crazy
So, like big stuff
She’s
coming back and she’d been receiving
like quite a bit of media attention
because just a couple years ago, you
know, she released Little Girl Lost
So,
like she’s still on her way up from
that
And it’s kind of crazy
It’s only
like two, three years
Still on her way up from that
also like finally even getting parts
Like for a while it was like get out of
here rehab girl
Like we’re not even
going to consider you
So it’s a big
deal
Like you’re trouble no matter what
But she’s Yeah
She’s getting like
respected again, right
Like people are
recognizing that she’s she’s
not messing around
It’s
the first Renaissance
She’d also just suffered a really
painful breakup from Jamie Walters
Again, we mentioned it in our last
episode
They’d been briefly engaged and
she had just wrapped up shooting the Amy
Fischer story in Vancouver and those
things kind of coincided like he broke
up with her before right before she came
back to LA from that
So she as far as
like that stuff goes she was like in a
lot of pain with that
And um we already mentioned it
Make sure you listen to episode 1992 to
kind of lead up to this moment
Um Drew
had also turned 18 at the beginning of
1993
So officially an adult despite all
the stuff that she’d gone through that
would like make her like 20 years older
than she actually is
And for her 18th birthday, she said she
had celebrated by playing mini golf with
a small group of friends, which I love
that cuz it feels like what she would do
now, you know
Like that it would be
mini golf, but it would be like her
friends like
surrounding herself in people who make
her feel safe
I don’t know
And this is also like I think
that’s a great like symbol of just how
she was really into simple living at
this time like doing simple things
She
was not going out to on the town anymore
cuz even like post-rehab you know she’s
still like being seen at all these clubs
in LA in 1990
Like she’s still doing
that lifestyle and now she’s like
scaling back and staying home
I wonder
if there’s part of her that felt like
she didn’t need to like be at the events
because she’s like I don’t know
Do you
think part of that going to events was
her like making herself visible like I’m
here again
I don’t know
So maybe she’s
like comfortable like I don’t have to
try so hard
I don’t know
But also Yeah
There’s that part of her that just wants
to like
I don’t know settle down
Probably
and she’d been trying to do that
with Jamie Walters, but uh didn’t work
out
So, she moved out of the house that
they shared because they were, you know,
it was too painful for her
And she
moved in with her friend Justine
Baddeley, who is still her good friend to
this day
Um she’s done casting for a
bunch of Flower Films projects
So, they
moved in together to an apartment and
then later into a house that she bought
with the money from guests, which
happens this year
We’ll talk about in a
minute
And we don’t have the details on
that yet, but we might be uncovering
some interesting information about this
house
Yeah,
put a pin in that
So, also kind of uh part of the
little tidbits about this year, Drew
drove a black Bronco with a daisy
sticker on the back of it
And there’s a
fun chapter about this this car and like
a moment with this car in Wildflower
kind of shows her like spunk at that
time
If you haven’t read it,
make sure you check that out or uh
eventually we’ll be going over
Wildflower on uh Patreon
So, we’ll be talking more about that
Bronco one day
I’m excited to do that
And you kind of mentioned this like
slowing down
So, she was like she was
kind of talking about how she was
spending most of her time at home with
her friends and she’s like making art,
cooking dinner, watching Melrose Place
indoor kid
kind of like probably the
first time in her life she was just sort
of being like a normal simple person,
you know,
right
Which probably felt really novel to her
I just can’t help but think it has to do
partly with like maybe the hustle was a
little bit less, you know
I think that’s a great great
observation
Should we get into her look a little bit
because this is a beautiful year
So
Drew had short blonde hair this year
Really short
not pixie short, but like
just past her chin
And she kind of
alternated between having it
straightened and then having it really
curly, like almost into the woo woo
bouncy that we would see the following
year,
right
Um her style kind of ranged between
baggy men’s wear and then also like
these glam sort of dresses with pearls
depending on what sort of event she was
going to
She actually didn’t go to very
many events this year, which is why
we’re doing this
Uh sometimes we do our
year and new reviews like in January she
did this, in February she did this
But
these years where she’s kind of hidden
away, we have to do a little
differently
A little differently
So it’s not like
she did nothing for these months
And
I love the juxtaposition of this like men’s
wear glam
Like it also I feel like
she’s always kind of done that
She
always likes to be
She still does that
You know, it’s like she has these
like extremes that she’s sort of willing
to be part of her public image like
Yeah
She’s a chameleon, right
Well, always
So, I love it
I love I love the
pictures you have in our notes
Just
like seeing the side by side of like
total glam like literally with the
pearls, which I feel like is I don’t
know
So pretty
I love it
So many good like fun looks
too, just candid-wise
And I mean, we’ll get into it, but
like this is the year she filmed Bad
Girls, which to me ranks as her one of
her most beautiful she’s ever looked
So
like she was just stunning this year
Um, and then this the last thing about
what she looked like
She had five
tattoos at this time
This was the final
year without her butterfly on her belly
because we know she got that sometime,
we’re gonna say in early 1994 because
she doesn’t have it in the guest photos,
but she does have it by the time Bad
Girls comes out in ’94,
right
And it’s significant because that
feels like something that’s so probably
because there was so much like burying
her skin like in the coming years that
we really
baring baring the baring Barrymore um
that we really like the butterfly was so
part of her look after
So I
absolutely
and also what five tattoos at the time
and what’s the count now
Oh man, what are we up to
I think
it is 14 because I think she said 14 too
early and then she got her 14th
Typical Drew
In her mind, she already had it maybe
Anyway, let’s get back to 1993
So,
relationships, we we touched on this a
little bit
Our last episode was all
about it, but let’s just touch on it
So, we mentioned that she was like fresh
off this breakup from Jamie Walters,
which when we did our rep episode about
relationships, like this may have been
like the first like real heartbreak that
Drew had
Um, and she stayed single
throughout this whole year, at least
like what we understand in the public
eye
Um,
until Billy Bob Thornton comes on, she
tells something else different that
messes us up
No, just kidding
Just a friend
Um, so then, uh, we also
know that Drew initially met Eric
Erlandson in late 1993, but their
relationship didn’t begin until summer
of the following year
So, we kind of
know that there was at least some kind
of uh
the mac and cheese vomit had occurred
and and that laid the groundwork
If you don’t know what
we’re talking about, make sure you
listen to the relationships episode
I’m
sure we’ve mentioned this many times
Hopefully, a lot of you are
So many episodes we have about the them
meeting
So, let’s get into her
career
So, it’s funny because this feels
like a quiet year until you really start
digging into it
So, Drew filmed two things in 1993
The
first is Wayne’s World 2
So, she just
has a very small cameo, and we we’ll do
an episode about all her cameos pretty
soon, so maybe we’ll get more into this
But
they filmed sometime in summer of 93
I
have to imagine she only needed to be
there for the good day, right
Like,
she’s literally in a five minute scene
Not even three minutes, two minutes
It’s so short
I don’t know
You could
pull up the YouTube clip of the whole
thing
I think it is like three minutes,
right
Um, and we recently dug into this
I
don’t remember why you asked if we
I don’t remember
I feel like I told I
told my partner that she was in Wayne’s
World, too
And he’s like, “Why
” And
what I said what I said to him was,
“Well, she’s a big star
” And then I was
like, “Well, at that time,
yeah,
like her star was kind of Anyway
What did you find out
Knowing me, research girl, once an idea
is in my head
I can’t let it go
I was
like, I wonder if the DVD has any
information
So, I throw the DVD
on with the commentary and the
commentary was just kind of like, oh,
there’s Drew Barrymore
She’s so
beautiful
And I was like, oh,
that’s not helpful
Then I threw on like
one of the um featurettes on the DVD and
Lauren Michaels comes on and he says
that he really wanted Drew in the film
because he was a big fan and he didn’t
think that they could get her which is
so interesting cuz like yeah that’s
wild
But then he credits Mike Meyers
and his then wife Robin with quote
unquote solving that
So I guess they asked her to be in it
I
mean as if she would say no to that
I
can’t even imagine a world at which 93
Drew would say no to being in Wayne’s
world too,
right
Like it feels like ex like she’d
be like, “Oh my god, hell yes
” I also
love to imagine that she got a charming
call from like Mike Myers
Like she
would call other people to try to get
them to like her films
She’s like,
“One day I’m going to do this
That’s a great idea
” Mike Myers and
Robin
Um, but yeah, I uh I love that we
have that just that little bit of info
that like it was Lauren that was pulling
for it
Like that’s so cool
Um, and then she also,
you mentioned this, but she filmed Bad
Girls this year
Just to give a little
bit of info about this, um, it was
originally, it originally started to
film in early July of this year, 1993,
with Tamara Davis directing and a
totally different script than what ended
up kind of coming out of this movie
After three weeks of filming, a new
director was brought in, Jonathan
Kaplan,
uh, to start from scratch and rewrite
the whole script
It’s crazy
Um, and the actresses were sent
to the what they called cowboy camp uh
before filming resumed in late August
and then they finished filming in
November
I’m so curious
I would love
to see anything that was filmed before
they changed it
What would that be
It’s kind of I’m sure it had
such a different vibe from everything
that we know
Like
whenever we want to actually like it’s
not one of my favorite movies
whenever
we want to sit down and actually do an
episode
There’s so much like dirt
behind the scenes of that one
Like even
just to get this timeline locked in
I
was like searching newspaper archives
and like figuring out like when did
things happen and cuz Drew will
sometimes make it sound like she filmed
that movie for seven months, which it
might have felt like that at the time,
but this is pretty like I feel good
about these dates
This like kind of definitive sort of
end
I love that you mentioned
like this year is busier because what
let’s talk about all the things that
were released
If I was just going off top of my head,
I would say two movies, maybe three,
came out in 93, but it’s actually a lot
more than that, you guys
It’s kind of weird
Again, thank God for newspapers
com and
Lindsay Blake for letting me have access
to her account
Thank you, Lindsay
Also, I’m just going
to say before we even get in, three
things came out in January
Okay, so the very first one is of
course the Amy Fischer story
I
know that came out that year,
right
So it aired on ABC in on January 3rd and
there were dueling Amy Fisher movies at
this time
There were three of them alto
together and Drews ended up being the
highest rated
So and it was also like
some people said it was the best one
Like it was definitely like the winner
of this little race that these networks
were having
So wild to imagine
Also the like turnaround time for
that
Like I feel like they filmed it
and it came out like a month later or
something
And when did this thing like the actual
thing happened with Amy Fisher
It was
like the year before, right
Oh yeah, for sure
It was May 19th of
’92
So literally within less than six
months
They would have been filming this
like probably like 3 4 months
after that happened
Oh my god
Just so weird to think about
Um, if you guys want to hear us talk
about this one more, we have a really
fun episode with our friends from Movies
That Made Us Gay
Um, it was from the
end of 2023
It was
Well, you’re exactly right because it
would came out December 5th of 2023
It’s our episode 63 if you want to check
that out
So almost two years ago
we did that episode
Like that’s so
wild
It’s a very fun one
And uh Pete from
movies that made us gay like really
remembers this time period with the AA
Fisher stuff
So he was like a really
fun resource for all of that
And of course we get into a lot
of the nitty-gritty
So if you want to
hear more about that
Um also released in 1993 was Motorama
Um, Motorama Gus
Gus,
basically a cameo, right
Like
Oh, yeah
So, it was extremely limited
release January 13th of 1993 in
theaters
Like, we didn’t even know it
was in theaters, right
Definitely thought it was a straight to
video,
right
And it had been filmed in late
1990, early 91
So, it took quite a bit
took a bit of time to come out
Always a bad sign,
right
I don’t even really remember
anything about the film
Yeah, I watched
the whole thing once, but she’s
beautiful in it
She’s a fantasy girl
She’s standing on the beach calling out
to the main character in his dream
You haven’t won yet
That’s pretty much it
Um, so this is kind of an interesting
one
So, as we mentioned, Gun Crazy had
come out the year before on Showtime,
but they ended up doing a limited
theatrical release starting in LA on
January 20th, 93, and later then
expanded to nine other theaters
throughout the country
And I don’t know
like were they going for like some sort
of like to be eligible for Oscars
I
don’t know like what the thought was
there
Probably,
but um that’s very unusual for that to
happen
And so it feels notable like
even though it had come out the year
before, I feel like we should include it
in this list of things released in 93
I feel like it has to do something with
the fact that it was getting awards
chatter
Like I’m trying to think of the
but I can’t think of what it is, but it
was getting like there was excitement
around it and her performance
So I’m
not surprised that like whoever’s
decision it was the studio was like put
it out there
Um but I bet you’re right
We
also have No Place to Hide which was
released in on April 16th of 1993 in
theaters again
Can’t believe it
I thought that was a
straight to video for sure
And this one also had been filmed
almost three years before in summer of
1990 under the name Temporary
It’s weird like I almost wonder were
they trying to capitalize on Drew’s like
newfound success by suddenly
releasing everything
like they’re
holding on to this movie for three years
and then all a sudden, oh, Drew
Barrymore is like suddenly like a name
that people might be interested in
Let’s go ahead and put this out
Maybe they had a hard time releasing
them
Yeah, that too
But I also like I feel
bad for her that like these weird little
things she did when she was just trying
to like get some work are then coming
out,
right
Doesn’t really feel fair
No, it doesn’t
But maybe that’s one of
the reasons why the Renaissance was so
much of a renaissance is like suddenly
all the stuff that like had been like in
waiting backlogged
Suddenly it was just like flooding the
media
Like that’s amazing
Because it continues
Um then we
have Doppelganger
That was a direct
video
It was released on May 26 of 93
Um and had been filmed only the year
prior
And we have a really fun episode
about that one, too, if you guys want to
hear it
Because, as Drew famously said,
you’d rather stick pins in your eyes
than watch that movie
But if you want
to hear us talk about, check out episode
90
We also have this documentary that I
think we only found out about like last
year or something
I feel like it was
really um she does a small voice
narration in a documentary called Roots
of Row and it aired on TV on November
29th of 1993
So, it’s again, it’s
another small thing, but notable because
yet another thing that came out in 1993
And then, uh, Wayne’s World 2, like talk
about a quick turnaround, came out on
December 10th
So, they’d only been
filming it over the summer and then it
comes out in December
This is
like just what a world
Um, and of
course, Drew’s small cameo as Bjergan
Kjergan made quite a big impression and
it kind of like furthered along this sex
symbol status that she was having at
this time very intentionally on her
part, right
Um, I feel like there’s a lot I always
see comments like this was like a sexual
awakening for people, her little part in
this scene
I mean, she is she’s beautiful
Beautiful
The way they dressed her up
for this like very quick cameo,
the like crocheted top so perfectly
early 90s in the best way possible
She’s so good
She’s stunning
We’ve already talked
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Um, okay
So now let’s get into some of
the TV and event appearances
I’m sure
many of them are around promoting all
this various stuff, right
Maybe not promoting Motorama, but
some of the things that we mentioned
So, um, in January, so here we are at
the beginning of the year kind of going
through chronologically these events
Um, so January 20th, she appeared on the
Arsenal Hall show where she discussed
Amy Fischer, her difficulties of fame,
her breakup with Jamie, and the movie
Gun Crazy
I don’t know if I’ve even
seen this appearance
This was a very new find like within the
last few months that this like surfaced
and we will link to it on the episode
page
It’s really cute
Again, she’s
doing the like baggy men’s wear kind of
look for this and love it
It’s just it’s just so good
God, Drew,
why are you so cute
This one little
picture in our notes
I’m like, she’s
really cute
Yeah, that’s why I was
like, I don’t recognize this
Yeah, go watch it
Just a few days after
that, she attended the Golden Globe
Awards
So, she had been nominated for
best performance by an actress in a
limited series anthology series or
motion picture made for television
Is
that a long enough title for you
That’s too much
For the movie Gun Crazy
And that was a
big deal for her
Like this is she’s not
award showgirl like you know her one
award was the youth and film awards from
82 and being Yeah
being recognized for
this, not even just being recognized,
being recognized for this movie, which
she was so passionate about, but also
like during this comeback time, like
she’s blacklisted a couple years before
and now she’s got a Golden Globe
nomination,
right
Um, so we have a quick little clip of
her on our just discussing that
nomination
I’m so honored and grateful
I mean, I’m
up
I’m put in the category with
Katherine Hepburn,
Jessica Lange,
hello
Uh, Kyra Sedwick, and Laura Dern
It’s
all five of us in in the um little
thing
And um I mean to be put with
those women
is the biggest honor in itself
I don’t
really care if I win
It’d be nice, but
um it’s just so flattering and it makes
me feel so good and proud
A
I know
And also the fact that she was
nominated alongside Jessica Lang
Isn’t that weird
Who she ended up beating out when they
were nominated for Great Gardens
Kind of strange, huh
It’s It’s just wild to think of like she
probably would have never imagined she
would be like working alongside that
person when she said this person’s name
Oh, that’s true
Um, she did end up
losing to Laura Durn, but still so cool
that and so she’s there and she’s, you
know, very glam that night
I saw like
some newspaper thing that gave her like
the best hair of the night
Um, so they called it like a Sharon
Stone dew
She does have like
very nice blonde kind of slicked back
flippy hair and pearl choker and just a
simple black dress
Um, and then we also
know that she presented an award because
we have a random screen grab from
something
Um, but can’t find any
details of what award that was or who
she’s presenting with
I don’t recognize
the guy in this horrible quality
picture
Yeah, I don’t feel like I do either, but
he looks sort of like the guy who plays
um Richard on Sex in the City
Oh, he’s in Boys on the Side
Doesn’t it look like him
Yeah, maybe
We should put this picture in the
gallery and if anybody recognizes who
this might be, let us know
There we go
I tried to look into it and after a
while I was like, this is really a waste
of my time
There were so many of the
like awards on YouTube and like that one
was not there
Like so annoying
I went through all every single one of
them
Um on February 1st, uh Drew
attended the CFDA fashion awards which
stands for Council of Fashion Designers
of America
She attended with the
photographer Matthew Rolston
Looking
super glam again
I I like I love her
look here with the like bright red lips
She looks beautiful
It’s like a perfect red
It’s also fun
that like fun air quotes fun her and
Matthew are like holding cigarettes and
cigarette packs in like all the
pictures,
right
Always got to have the cigarettes on the
red carpet
Always was an accessory that she had at
all times
for quite a while
Um then on May
19th she attended the premiere of the
movie Sliver starring the
aforementioned Sharon Stone and once
again Matthew Ralston came with her to
that
Uh she worked with him so many
times in the early 90s and so it’s not
like a surprise that they were friends
and hanging out,
right
He’s probably part of her early gay guy
crew
probably
Um and Drew wore a pretty like iconic
look to this one
She had the round blue
lens sunglasses and a Mickey Mouse
backpack
And I just feel like people
always remember this one
And she’s also got like one
of the like probably hemp chokers like
on her neck like
Yeah
Little Daisy Hemp
Speaking of clippings, I feel like
we have like tons and tons of clippings
of this look
Yeah, for sure
I mean, this is like one
of the only maybe the only movie
premiere she attended this year, I
think
which is funny because she had so
many released
Um but she is asked on the red carpet
about what she thinks about Sharon Stone
breaking ground for other actresses
I think she’s definitely opening
up new doors for people to like I mean I
think she’s really outspoken and I
really respect that about her and I
think the more power to her, you know,
so I’m excited
I mean she knows Sharon Stone from
Irreconcilable Differences
I think that
was Sharon’s like debut
Oh
yeah
So that’s kind of cool
And Sharon
was at the Poison Ivy premiere, I feel
like, in support of Drew
So, yeah,
really cute
That is really sweet
Okay, so now we get on to September
13th
Drew was on literally the first
episode of Late Night with Conan
O’Brien, which is always so cool
Like,
I know
I love that little nugget
I
feel like she never mentions that
Like,
she should really like brag about that
out of it
Um, and once again,
Lauren Michaels seems to have been
responsible for this, so that’s really
cool to know, too
Like, how did we find
that out
I feel like she might say it
in the appearance
Or she said it at some other point at
some point
I remember that fact and
you’re just going to have to trust my
memory on that
It makes sense, right
I mean,
yeah
So, she flew in from the Bad Girls set
specifically to appear on the show
Um,
she discusses Amy Fischer and the guest
campaign on the episode
I just have to
say really quickly about her look
She’s
got like this red sort of like
Chinese appropriation dress, but it also
feels like from like the ‘9s into like
the 2000s like
those just
right silky Chinese dresses
Yeah,
she looks beautiful
And we’ve got her
like basically bouncy woo woo woo woo
woo bouncy hair going on here
Um I love it
Gorgeous
And and it’s so I mean if any
of you know like Con O’Brien’s show I
feel like it’s like the awkwardness of
what that was intentionally but like
times 20
like literally the first episode but I
love it like Conan’s great on the first
episode of his show
It’s true
It’s super funny
He had been writing for Saturday Night
Live forever
So
yeah I think Yeah
But if you guys
haven’t for some reason seen this
there’s two versions on YouTube
If you
want we could link to both of those
Um,
like there’s the official one that his
company or his brand put out, but then
there’s a longer one from our friends at
Drew Barrymore Daisy that has a little
bit extra of Drew
Check it out
Thanks very much for coming on my first
show
Thank you for having me
It was a real
honor
Thank you
All right
Okay, so then we
get to December 8th, the Billboard Music
Awards
So Drew was basically like kind
of urged into doing this by her
publicist or whoever because she is
really like I just want to stay home at
this point in her life
Um but she
agreed to go and so she presents the
award for the number one rock artist and
she does it alongside Mike Myers and
Dana Carvey
So, obviously this is also
kind of like a Wayne’s World 2 promo,
but their section was pre-taped and so
it’s actually it’s like they make a
comedy out of the fact that it’s
pre-taped cuz they’re like asking Drew
questions and then there’s like awkward
pauses and then they’re like pretending
to respond
It’s it’s pretty cute
We’ll
definitely link to that
Um we and then
she presents the award to Aerosmith
So,
let’s hear that
Absolutely
Live from London’s Hard Rock
Cafe, here is Billboard’s number one
rock artist of the year, Aerosmith
Aerosmith
It’s also like she trips over her words
when she first starts introducing it and
she’s like, “Of course
” Like, you can
just hear her brain like, “Why can’t you
ever be cool
“
I love it
That’s why we love you, Drew
We We need you to be you at all times,
and you are you at all times
Um, the funny thing about this one, and
oh, I guess we didn’t talk about her
look, but she has like a silky white
long dress on, and this is where her
like 94 curls are starting to really
show up
Um, but so the next day, rumors came out
about her dating Billy Idol supposedly
and about her having her quote down
there pierced
So then she was just
like, I’m swearing off going to events
And the quote that she gave to movie
line was, “I’m like that’s it
No more favors
No more nothing
I am
never going out again
” And as we
reported in our year in review 94, she
literally didn’t go to any public events
that whole year
So, she really meant
she meant it
Yeah, she meant it
Um,
all right
So, some more fun from this
year
Of course, every year the photo
shoots
1990s photo shoots,
right
and we’re talking about things
that were released in 1983
She did a
lot more photo shoots that year that
maybe didn’t come out till the next
year
Um, but yeah, you can listen to
episode 104 talking about more of the
ones that probably were shot this year,
but this is how we do this
Yeah, it’s kind of like ah it’s that
thing of like I kind of want to mention
that she has her first photo shoot with
Mark Seliger this year, but like it
didn’t come out until 94
So, we’re just
talking about the releases of 93
So, let’s um first
just talk about GQ, which was released
in March
Um it was not a cover feature
It was an inside feature only um
photographed by Jeffrey Thurnher
Um and I’m
I mean I like this
I like some of this
Yeah, same
Not a huge fan of her hair
No, it’s very 92 hair
I’m certain it
was done in ’92 because if it came out
if it’s a March issue, it came out in
February, which means like there’s no
way they did it fast enough back then
Um, so I feel like my
favorite of the shoot probably the stuff
on the beach
Those are the ones I love
But the
ones in the black bra on the sidewalk
smoking a cigarette are the ones that
like get shared all the time
What’s What’s the word like
They
are
oversaturated
Over I mean, yeah, the the market has
been oversaturated with those pictures
I mean, yeah, she’s she’s in a bra and
she’s looks sexy and she’s got a
cigarette in her mouth
So, of course,
like
that’s going to attract some people,
right
It’s very on brand for the bad girl
Drew,
right
Um, then for the New York Times
for their March 7th issue, they did a
little article about her and the
photographs were done by Mojgan B. Azimi
Sorry if I butchered that
Um, these are
really cool where she has like a really
cute daisy choker necklace and she just
she just kind of looks like a badass in
these
But beautiful
And I I think I feel like she just
I was going to say I feel like she like
dressed herself for them
Something
about them feels like casual
I totally
agree
Um, yeah, I do love them
And again, if you guys are like, ah, I
want to see, we always have an episode
page with the links and the gallery
So,
photos that we’re talking about, you can
check them all out on the howdoyoudrew
You cannot do it justice without the
visual
The visual, you got to see it
Um, more beauty here from 17 magazine
A
cover feature, the first cover feature
of this year released in May
Um, she
was photographed by the aforementioned
Matthew Rolston at a place called Caffe
Tiesto or Tiesto
That’s how you say that,
I think, in in San Francisco
Um, these
pictures are so cool
She has a very
Marilynesque Marilyn Monroeesque feel to
her, like the way they did her hair
Um, I love that she’s got like multiple
different outfits and like almost like
feels like she’s playing different
characters in the different pictures
Um, almost all actually looks like all
the ones that are inside the magazine
are either black and white or sepia
tone, which is also like interesting for
17 magazine
I know these feel very high fashion for
17, right
I was just thinking like where would I
maybe expect these to be like I don’t
know, not 17
More something a little
more adult
Um, and the cover is
great, too
I mean,
they’re beautiful
You got to see these if you haven’t seen
them
I also feel like this was sort of
like giving her an opportunity to be
presented as something opposite as not
the bad girl in the black bra and the
cigarettes
Cuz she looks more classy
She looks Yeah
classy and like adult
They’re great
Um but then we go
back to a little bit more fun bad girl
looks for details from the June issue
We covered this in our episode 38 and
it’s one of our most popular episodes
It’s a really good article
So, I don’t
know if that’s has something to do with
it, but um yeah, it’s definitely worth
taking a listen to, but she is on the
cover for this one with the word sex
written across her upside down laying on
the floor legs
So, you know, that’s a
little bit more in line with this time
period
But I love these photos
There’s
only a couple of them
They’re all black
and white, but uh again, badass and
beautiful
And the photographer is Albert
Watson
These are really cool
Particularly like
the um leopard print one
I feel like
the one where she’s wearing the leopard
print jacket and she’s at like a cafe
counter
Just crazy stunning
And then of course she just looks so
cool smoking
So this one of her wearing
like skull and crossbones
It’s also funny there’s one of her
driving and then in a couple more shoots
there’s another photo of her driving
I
always remember that being like that’s
so interesting
That was funny
I don’t think I’ve ever
really thought about that, but it is
really funny
It’s like that Bronco energy or
something
She’s bringing the Bronco energy
She does look ready to drive through a
gate in that in the one from details
Maybe they just took the photo when that
was happening
cuz I feel like I thought Well, we’ll
get to the the dirt one in a minute, but
like I feel like I always thought she
looks like she’s driving like a bus in
the dirt
The way her hands I don’t I
don’t know what it I don’t know what it
is
Anyway, um before we get to dirt
though, let’s talk about Vogue, which
was released in June
Not a cover, but
so many amazing pictures
And I have to imagine this was
such a big deal for her
Oh my gosh
Like I mean I’ve like come across in my
research just the fact that like she
couldn’t even like to get her on the
cover of Vogue was like a really big
deal and that didn’t happen till 2005
So right
like this is major
It was the first time she
worked with the incredible photographer
Ellen von Unwerth
We’ve got a whole
episode talking about their
collaborations
Um, they’ve
done some incredible work together
Some
of our favorite all time
And
just in this shoot alone, I mean, I’m
just looking at this little sample
Are
there eight
Are these all full pages
I
feel like they are
Um, I think the only one that isn’t is
the very first one
It’s like half a
page
God, they are just so incredible
Like,
how do we even summarize
like they’re
just so stunning
We’ll have to do a whole episode on this
one maybe
But they were done um at Coney Island
We should mention that
I didn’t put
that in the notes, but
Oh, yes
It’s a mixture of like things
that are black and white and some color
Um they’re just so cool
And every
single one has this like really unique I
feel like once again there’s like tons
of different like costume changes
It’s just like iconic
I I don’t feel
like we can even do it any justice by
trying to describe them
I will say I
feel like the one of her in the chair
where she’s nude, was there like a
postcard
Yeah,
that was like at a bunch of stores and
stuff
Um they’re just so great guys
You
have to look at them
Plus, we love
Ellen Von Werth and this is just like the
perfect introduction
And she always reposts whenever I tag
her in a story, she always reposts it,
which is really cool
That is really cool
So, our next one, as Ann
mentioned, is Dirt
And I I don’t even
know what this magazine was, but it was
like a boys magazine, I think
Um, it’s undated, which has always
driven me crazy, but it came out in ’93
And the photos were done by Spike Jones,
which is really cool
And Drew basically
is like half the cover
Like, she shares
it with John Singleton
So, it’s from
the nose up, it’s Drew, and from the
nose down it’s him, which is kind of
fun
I want the rest of her face
And
she does a like ask I think it’s called
like ask a girl or something
So there’s
all these like letters written in and
she responds to all these boys like with
a female perspective
It’s It’s pretty
silly
I definitely We should reread
that
I don’t even remember
And you’re
totally right
I just did a quick Google
and it was an American lifestyle
magazine targeting young men
There you go
It’s a really cool unique like the
photos are unique, the cover is unique
I feel like it took me a while to like
collect this one
Like it is kind of a
weirder one, but
you know, we’ve got some copies in the
jersey
Of course, it’s special one
Of course
All right
And we of course have to
mention I feel like one of like the
biggest things this year that so many
people remember about 93 is the guest
campaign
Um, and you can listen to episode 6 when
we talk all about it
I can’t believe it
was episode six
Like
I know that’s crazy
Um these photographs were by Wayne
Maser
Um we’ve got two different photo
shoots that are kind of used throughout
the campaign
Um one that was done at
Salt and Sea in California and another
in Miami, Florida
And they have very
distinct kind of looks to them
If
you’re familiar with them, you might
know
Um
they were first debuted in magazines in
June
And how long did those kind of
like there were magazines for like a
while
I want to say all the way up to like
early ’94
and there’s so many you guys
Yeah,
this is this is such a I mean this is a
if you listen to episode six of our
podcast I’m sure we’ll talk about like
good luck with the audio
Who knows what
that sounds like
Maybe don’t listen to it
Um but
this was huge
I mean huge for her
I
mean, I feel like like literally icon
status like you know, she’s like h so
good
She’s a guest girl
She’s like such a
guest girl and she was like amazed to
have been selected for it
Like she
thought like I am this little tiny like
I’m short and I’m like, you know, she
didn’t feel like she was guest girl
material, which is crazy because these
ads are incredible and she’s so
beautiful in them
Oh my god, we can’t
get out
Yeah, we we do really go into
detail even though it’s an like early
episode and it might not sound great
I
know I did a ton of research of like and
had some cool factoids
So, it’s worth
listening to even if it doesn’t sound
amazing
And if you’re listening to this and
you like cannot visualize
Drew Barrymore’s guess ads, please go to
our website, go to the Drewseum, look at the
pictures, and soak them in
Like,
yeah, literally just go to the
museum
com/guest if you want to see all
of the things in our collection related
to this campaign because there’s an
unbelievable amount of photos
They are
Yeah, I know I’ve said it a
hundred times, but they are rad
They
are beautiful
I feel like it’s even
hard to like choose a favorite from this
grouping
Anyway,
yeah
So, we’ve reached the end of 93 that we
thought was going to be kind of a little
year ended up being like quite a bit of
like important stuff
I mean,
yeah
And it really I think it’s it’s I mean
obviously it literally is but it’s this
interesting middle point of like okay
she’s like getting her career back up
She’s getting a lot of attention
She
hasn’t quite made the leap to like major
things happening quite yet
I mean Bad
Girls was like her first studio film in
a long time
So that’s a pretty big
thing
Like we didn’t even touch on
that
So she’s really building it back
up but she’s still like not A-list you
know
Well, that’s kind of why when I
said she’s in Wayne’s world, too,
because she was a big star, I was like,
“Yeah,
sort of like,
yeah, she’s very well known
She was
very famous, but she didn’t necessarily
have like
pull in Hollywood, you know,
she was still working on that,
right
And had, like you said, not
having done a studio film,
she had been filming all these little
things that were going to take their
time getting released
And then it
wasn’t until she had like, you know, the
big names behind her that they were just
like released, released, released
“
Yeah, it’s also, you know, I didn’t put
anything about this in here, but it’s
also worth noting that the next year she
officially founds Flower Films
So,
that’s huge
Like, yeah
Major like she’s things her
career is
really going up up up and things are
really happening and it’s just
it’s really cool that she’s only 18 like
what
it’s making me really feel like we got
to cover Flower Films at some point
soon
I’ve actually that’s like calling
to me right now
Okay, so thank you guys
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How Do You Drew Episode 118 – Romantic Relationships

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How do you drew
How do you drew
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Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew
This is a Drew Barrymore podcast brought
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We’re drawing on over 25 years of Drewbie
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Drew’s world, from her personal life to
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Thanks to our
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I’m an
and I’m Ashley
And this week we are
discussing Drew Barrymore’s romantic
relationships,
also known as Too Many Boyfriends,
which uh some lovely gentleman on
Hollywood Boulevard shouted at us once
when we were posing with Drew Star
I
don’t like her
She has too many
boyfriends
We were like, go f yourself
I think he also said like a comment
about her body as well
We’re not Yeah
Great
guy,
right
great guy that just felt like he
had to tell clearly people who are fans
of this person that he did not like her
and we were like young girls anyway
Anyway, we’re talking about her her
boyfriends
So, let’s start at the top of
the episode with uh a little bit of a
tidbit, I guess
How how would you Yeah
I just wanted to mention that I just
recently finished Demi Moore’s memoir
It’s called Inside Out, and it’s from
2019
And I just felt like there were a lot of
really fascinating parallels to Drew’s
young life
Sort of similarly to when we
read Ione Skye’s where I was just like,
“Oh, there’s weird like connections and
overlaps
” And I mean, the one thing
that really stuck out to me was sort of
how Demi’s mom was
And I I remember Drew
and Demi talking about it on Drew’s show
once,
but yeah, she like also sold childhood
photos of Demi to the press and also like
posed nude after Demi did stuff like
that
I just found it really
fascinating
Um, it was a great book
So, highly recommend
And there is a
cute little part about our girl Drew
calling and charming Demi out of
retirement for full throttle
You know,
Drew’s Drew making a phone call
The
secret weapon,
right
I just watched Ever After
again and I was thinking about the
Angelica Huston thing and I was I was
telling my friend who was with me
watching it like of course I have to
throw in some tidbits
I was like
I was like you know she like called her
and Anyway, you know the whole thing
Yeah, that’s fun
Anyways, okay
So,
let’s get into a big list of things that
Drew has proclaimed her love for
recently
I love love
All right
Drew loves her dictionaries
Oh, of course she does
I I got you covered there
I love paper
She loves hush puppies
When the girls open up to her, referring
to her daughters
She loves a beef bullion
Queso Wajaka
[Music]
Everything about her experience
She would love this podcast
She should
listen to it
She loves Pitch Perfect
And Aubrey Plaza
We know that
And she was referring to
local journalism
She loves skincare
A fake meat
We do too
A legume
Is that how you say that
You know what
I was just trying to say
this word recently and I don’t know if
it’s legume or legume
I don’t like it
Either way, it’s kind of gross sounding,
but I mean, I like eating them,
right
She loves to see people make stuff and
accomplish stuff
A
again, she should listen to this
podcast
She loves jokes
[Laughter]
A googly eye
Okay, let’s see if I can say this one
Yeah, it’s a Korean savory sweet and
spicy condiment
She loves miso
The nude lip
She loves crochet
Has she ever done it
I don’t I doubt it
Yeah, me too
She loves an old school at a glance
The
day planners
Oh, okay
She loves Jim Carrey
We knew that
listen to our Batman
Forever episode
And finally, Drew loves red hair, which
we were just talking about in our last
episode for Charlie’s Angels
Yes, we were
Everything just feeds each
other, guys
It all connects
This This podcast is a
snake eating its own tail
Um, we have a Drewism of the week
for this week
It looks like you know
those cool little isms that we do
This came from people
They did like
a random interview with her kind of in
connection to the Garnier stuff that
she’s been doing
And I just had to pull
this little paragraph because I thought
this is such a truism
You want to read
it
So, it said, “I shaved my
legs the other day and that made me feel
20 times less like a Neanderthal
I gave
myself a home pedicure
I cleaned out my
toenails and I got my gray roots done
These are things that we women don’t
carve out time for
And then all of a
sudden you look at yourself and you’re
like, I’m not just a keeper
I’m a
hairy keeper with dry skin
I’m
rocking around as if I’m a troll and I’m
not going to sink down that rabbit hole
I’m going to pull myself out
I’m going
to do what I can for myself
I really like it
Relatable
It’s so many levels
Like so good
That is so good
Drew, we love you
We
love you, Drew
No matter how hairy
All right, let’s um dive into our
mailbag
You’ve got mail
We got so many nice responses to our
Charlie’s Angels episode, which meant a
lot because like to me that’s like my
favorite episode right now that we’ve
ever done
I loved it so much
I really
enjoyed it and a lot went into it and
it’s so cool to know that people were
appreciating the work that we did
And like some people who I think
who maybe were new to us possibly
In fact, this this is the one I
pulled
This is from listener Cadu from
Brazil
And he sent us some really nice
messages and this is part of what I
pulled
Oh, so Cadu said, “I just
finished listening to your Charlie’s
Angels episode and you absolutely
crushed it
I’ve been a huge fan of the
movies for 25 years and I just wanted to
say thank you for all the love, passion,
and insight you put into celebrating
Drew
It’s genuinely inspiring
Oh,
right
I like the celebrating Drew
because that’s like all of the work that
we do across this podcast across all the
Drewseum things
Like it’s all about just
celebrating this girl that makes
everybody happy
Absolutely
That’s
what we’re here to do
Like, thank you
for getting it
Um, okay
So, now we got some stuff for
what’s new with Drew
Some little things
here and there
So, let’s get into that
Here we go with the news, everybody
Drew shared on Instagram that she
has two new animals in her menagerie
Drew Little over there
She now has
two new little birds
I think they’re
parakeets, right
Uh, you know, I
don’t really know birds
Me neither, but I looked up
parakeet and it looked like it was a
match
I think that’s correct
But had to just love the pictures of
them perching on her shoulder
I love perching birdies
If that wasn’t clear enough, that’s Drew
proclaiming that she loved perching
birdies
And that’s always been one of our like
go-to Drew quotes that we just always
say for some reason
I love perching birdies cuz it’s so her
Yes, it is
And the crowd like laughs after she says
this on Rosie O’Donnell because it’s so
sincere and like goofy
Um, she brought them out when Tracy
Morgan was on the show, but she also
brought out a snake and Jeremy, you
know, the lizard
And they didn’t like
name, like she didn’t introduce them all
by name,
right
So, the like caption on the screen said
that Jeremy, Lemon, Melanie, and Norio
were all Drew’s pets who were ecstatic
to meet Tracy
So, I’m going to guess
Lemon was the snake
I’m like going
order of appearance
and that the birds are Melanie and
Norio, but I could have that wrong
Very cute
Like this is adorable
I love
the images that we have of Drew with the
birds
Like I know
this makes me so happy
I love that you noted that her snake was
Cecil cuz I thought so too cuz she’s
like
Cecil
So I guess this must be a new
snake,
right
Unless they uh I don’t know
We named Cecil
I
feel like she brought Cecil more than
once to the show
Probably
Yeah, he’s definitely come up
Anyway, the menagerie grows
So, what else is new
Uh, this was so like random and fun on
Halloween night
I mean, everyone has
probably seen this by now, but at a
Sabrina Carpenter concert, apparently
there’s a song I don’t know Sabrina
Carpenter stuff
Sorry, guys
But
apparently there’s a song called Juno
And from what I understand, when she’s
about to do that song, she’s been quote
unquote arresting an audience member for
being too sexy
And it’s like a whole
thing
So on Halloween, she appeared to arrest
Ghost Face from Scream in the audience
And then surprise, the mask comes off
and it’s Drew under there
And the crowd
like freaks out
There’s a girl behind
her who’s just like jaw dropped to the
floor
Yeah, me too
It was very cute
Like Drew’s like very
like trying to be seductive and cute
with Sabrina
It’s so cute
Like she looks so I mean
she looks beautiful
She takes the mask
off and they’ve got like the camera
right on her
She looked lovely
I think
she was wearing like a red lip, right
Like it looks so good
It was funny
Um one of the Instagram
followers we have, Rodney, he’s like
very into Charlie’s Angels
He said it
totally gave him pulling the LL cool J
mask vibe and I was like totally
totally totally
I love how she
like pulls the mask off and like shakes
her hair out
Like there’s something
there’s also something very Charlie’s
Angels about that
Like that’s totally
what she does as LL Cool J
Like he called
it
Um that was so fun
And these Polaroids
Is this something that um Sabrina
Carpenter posted
Which is so cool
I love that
somebody was just right there with a
Polaroid camera when this happened
Um, all right
We’ve got
one more in a little new thing to talk
about before we get into the topic
This just came out
So Vince Gilligan,
who wrote Home Fries, he was just on the
Drew Barrymore show
Did you watch that
when they called Luke Wilson
It was so cute
Oh, it was so cute
I’m like, get back
together, you guys
And I like how Luke just kept talking
Like I was like, this is so cute and
sweet
I definitely like want to cover
Home Fries pretty soon
Like it keeps
coming into my orbit like for some
reason
But anyway, so um Vince has a
new TV show called Pluribus and there is
a new promo ad for it where like all of
these people are speaking to the main
character through her TV and there’s a
lot of Breaking Bad alums in it which
makes sense
But then Drew is also
randomly in there for two seconds but
it’s worth uh worth checking out
And I wonder if this promo if
there will be more of it, you know, like
this is just our promo, but we’ll have
to see
Oh, maybe
I mean, I’m I’m already interested in
seeing this
I I just finished watching
uh Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul
And I saw that he had a new show and I
was like, “Hell yeah
” And it’s one of
the like main characters from Better
Call Saul
The actress who’s in this
movie, I don’t remember her name,
Rhea
Rhea Seahhorn
Um anyway,
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I guess we might be ready to talk about
uh weekly topic about things that Drew
loves
Loved uh past tense
I guess
she lives love with these fellas at one
point in her life
Absolutely
And Drew, she does
She
really does love love
Like for real,
I love love love
and it’s very interesting to see how she
went from being kind of this love
junkie
You’ll see a lot of these
relationships really go back to back
very very closely
Self-proclaimed love junkie
And then we have present
day which we’ll touch on
And you know
she’s just she’s changed guys
She’s the
same girl but she’s changed
Um,
yeah, she’s really like I feel like just
in the last several years she’s really
matured in like a
I mean she’s also I mean she’s also con
like constantly learning about herself
too
Like
I think she would agree like even in the
last like
year I feel like she would say that
Um I do want to say at the top that
these first few that we’re going to
mention
they’re pretty casual quote unquote
relationships
We’re talking about a
time when she was like 13 and 14, which
sounds so laughable as like just having
witnessed my at the time 15year-old
daughter go through her first little
breakup
And it’s like I can’t even
believe that would ever be notable
enough to be included on any list ever,
right
But she was different
She’s different at this point if you
know she’d been through a lot by 13 14
So like
we you know we’ll talk about it some age
differences that are a little shocking
and things like this
Um, but also Drew
I think always was a little um
ahead of her time whatever you or you
know good way of putting it
like wise beyond her years
So yeah we have to in include
those just to kind of keep the timeline
complete
We are leaving out any mention
of guys that maybe she was like spotted
with once or twice but she never like
considered them a relationship
We’re
leaving out like all the stupid dumb
rumored ones like, “Oh, Val Kilmer,
she’s said that’s false
” Edward Norton,
no, they were just friends
Sam
Rockwell, just friends
Like, this is
kind of we’re trying to set like the
definitive list and like not the stupid
like Buzzfeed someone just quickly
Googled and saw a picture of her on the
red carpet with someone
And I don’t know that anyone would be
able to like argue with what we are
putting out there except for Drew
herself
Like,
no one’s ever allowed to argue with us
No, just kidding
Drew Drew is always
You just feel like this is the part of
like the public
part
I don’t know
This is what she’s
made known
You know
For the most part
All right
So, should we start right at
the very beginning
With uh our famous If you’re if you
listen to Little Girl Lost coverage on
Patreon, you’re familiar with this guy
So, this is Robbie
That is his
supposedly true name
In Little Girl
Lost, she names him Bobby
really top secret name change there
Um,
so when Drew was 13, this guy was a high
school senior and she met I think she
met him in the clubs and she spent a lot
of time at his family’s house in New
York when she wasn’t getting along with
her own mom
Based on how she wrote about him and
Little Girl Lost, we both went, “Wow,
this was not a healthy relationship
There’s some toxic that went down
“
There’s like Yeah
physical and like uh
uh
emotional
physical and mental abuse
Um and a few years later, you know, she
left New York and rehab and all these
things happened
Like, of course, that’s
they didn’t stay together, guys
But, um a few years later, she
had referred to him in Details magazine
as quote, “The only guy I’ve ever truly
been in love with
” Which I was like,
“Not great
But then, you know,
she’s saying this and she’s still young,
so she’s got a lot of love to go around
Guys,
totally
Should I mention the
embarrassing lap dance story
I don’t remember what you’re talking
about
I did find it very funny that in
the last week or so, she mentioned on
her show a story about how when she was
young, she tried to do a lap dance for
her boyfriend and it was it was really
bad and it didn’t work out well
And she
said that the song was to
Blue Monday by New Order, which in
Little Cor she says is her song with
Bobby
13-year-old Drew trying to do a
lap dance for this guy
Oh my goodness
That is funny
She seems to have a sense of humor about
it
Of course
And I love when she just like
reveals these random things
But of course me with the like you
know conspiracy theory board red lines
I’m like oh that must have been him
Blue Monday you said I don’t exactly who
you’re talking about
Okay so now we’re going to talk about
somebody that is a famous person so you
just may know who he is
This is Corey
Feldman
Um Drew had a childhood crush
on him and they went on a really like
very wholesome date set up by Steven
Spielberg when she was younger
Um, and
then the spring of 1989, they went to a
few events together, like including the
Oscars
Um, we know that they were both
like recovering, like in recovery at
this time, so I’m sure that that bonded
them
I feel like Drew has referred to
this as like more like a friend, but
also
I don’t think she was like this was a
real serious relationship
You know, I
don’t even know if like were they dating
when they did 15 and getting straight
like this is such a short little window
of time and she’s 14,
right
And they had a very like when he
was on her show it was very sweet, like
very tender and sweet
Like I don’t
think we’d ever really seen them speak
to each other
So
it was a really good um
it was great
appearance and I mean he’s one of like a
few that have been on her show from this
list
That’s true
That’s true
I think there’s like three others
I’ll
just say one other thing about him is we
got that tidbit from Todd Gold that he
had sent like dozens of roses to Drew
and we thought like maybe it was maybe
around the Oscars’ timeline like based
on what they were saying I think
Um so it was kind of a fun little thing
that we learned and I was like oh that
sounds about right for like I don’t
know
Um okay we’re just going to
briefly touch on this next one
The late
actor Rodney Harvey
So, we have
speculated that Drew briefly dated him
in mid 1989
And this is based on things
that we uncovered during our little girl
lost research
And
sorry to put this behind a payroll, but
it is kind of like sensitive
information
So, if you want to know the
scoop on this one, including like some
really weird info about her mom Jade’s
involvement in this relationship, you
got to head over to our Patreon for our
little girl lost deep dive
You do
patreon
[Laughter]
Yeah, that was an interesting one
Is that the one who was in The
Outsiders
Yes, the TV show
And like he’s part of
this crew that we’re like going to
continue seeing names pop up
So, next we’ve got another
actor
You may be aware of him, you may
not
Balthazar Getty
Um I’ve always
thought he was so cute
Yeah, he’s
really cute in all their photos together
and he’s like age appropriate which is
refreshing,
right
So, they were pictured together
at events and clubs throughout 1990
Um,
this is a very like
Yeah, I love I mean we love Drew’s look
at this time like long blonde hair
She
looks really happy in this picture here
So, she’s spoken about hanging
out in the friend group that included
Balthazar, Rodney who we just talked
about, and David Arquette, um, who she
said is only a friend, although they
like went to an event together, so
people thought they were dating
I know he’s always on the list
I’m like
I They went like to one red carpet and
Okay
Um, and then they were
pictured um for the last time on October
12th, 1990
So, it was really just like
that year
Kind of a kind of a blip
Um,
but really sweet
Kind of a blip as it should be when
you’re 15 years old
Um, so very soon after on October 29th,
1990,
Drew was pictured with this next guy,
and this is one of the first in a like
boom boom boom way too old guys
His
name was Leland Hayward
Um, he was a grandson of an old
Hollywood producer by the same name
Okay,
so Drew is 15 and he was in his early
20s
We have to assume it was I think he
was reportedly 24 at the time, but like
Okay,
I don’t know how to check up on that
information
Um,
in February 1991, People magazine
reported that they were rumored to be
engaged, but Drew later said that wasn’t
true
In fact, she told our buddy Todd
Gold in that same Details magazine that
he bought me a diamond ring and I wore
it on that finger
So, I suppose I asked
for it, but we were never engaged
And
Todd kind of like pushes back, but she’s
like, “No, it was like a joke
Like, we
weren’t engaged
” Which
I don’t know that it really matters
She could have been, you
know
Whatever that means when you’re 15
years old
And then they were last seen together in
February 1991
So, shortlived, but um
you know, I don’t love I don’t love it
It’s notable
I don’t love it
And then this next one is like my least
favorite
This one really
I have a real problem with and we’ve
mentioned it before, but yeah, go for
it
Explain these details
So, um, his name is Phedon Papamichael
What a name, right
in 1991 when
Drew was 16 years old
He was like fully
an adult around 30 who was a
cinematographer on Poison Ivy and then
he directed her in Sketch Artist
And he kind of said he he said outright
actually that he reworked the script of
Sketch Artist after watching her play a
seductress in Poison Ivy
Meaning he
like was like, “Oh,
more sexy
So then um she did mention him
being her boyfriend in movie line 1992
So we kind of have confirmation from the
I always forget what the phrase is from
the horse’s mouth
Is that right
The horse’s mouth
And we mentioned that in episode 81
because we’ve gone over each issue of
Movie Line
Those are really fun
episodes
Check them out
Um, and then,
uh, we have one more little tidbit about
him that is just kind of like weird but
fun to know and a little gross
So, um, photographer Dan Arsenal, who
had done the photos for the, uh, Venice
magazine, um, told us that she brought
photos home from that photo shoot, the
Polaroids, to Phedon like he as a as a
gift
And Phedon has posted one on his
Instagram and it was just like blew our
minds
Yeah, because we saw it
Um I think
there were actually two at first and
there’s only one like still up
But we
didn’t realize at first they were from
the Venice
Like he didn’t even like
credit anything
He was just like Drew
Barrymore and like as if he’d taken
them
And I remember like first of all
the photos are amazing but I was also
like ew
Like you’re okay
Anyway, um
yeah, but later we were able to figure
out they were from that shoot and the
photographer confirmed that’s what he
recalled happening
So yeah, it’s
interesting
He’s like an Academy Award
nominated cinematographer and it doesn’t
get brought up that he dated Drew, but
if you if you Google their names
together, you can find a couple things
Like it’s not a secret secret
And Drew,
remember in movie line 2003 where the
author like lists like several guys that
he found that she’d been in a
relationship with and she says the ones
that are true,
right
And he’s one of them
And this is like the
biggest age gap that we
Yeah
are aware of
Let’s move on to Jamie
Walters
So, this is when things start
getting a little more serious in these
relationships
So, they were introduced
by their mutual agent, JJ Harris, RA,
and they were first seen together in May
1992 when Drew was 17
They very quickly
moved in together and got engaged like
boom, boom, boom, like I think it was a
couple of months
But just as quickly, the relationship
ended
So, Drew had said that Jaime
broke off their engagement by phone
three days before she was due to return
to their LA house that they shared
because she was in Vancouver filming the
Amy Fischer story
He asked him to wait until she got back
so they could discuss it in person
Um,
but by the time she got home, Jamie had
moved out
And she like said that she
thinks that spending too much time apart
was the cause of the the problems
But
this was probably like her first really
serious relationship
And definitely
major heartbreak
Like she was very open
for a few years about how painful
this breakup was for her
I I have to
imagine this was maybe like the first
time that she was like,
I could create my own family with
someone or you know those kind of ideas
that we see place together
So they were
probably really picturing building a
life
And I would imagine I think JJ was a
very like kind of a motherly mentor
figure for Drew
So JJ like encouraging
the relationship probably made some
difference as well
Um one other little tidbit
we’ll mention if you’re not familiar
with the interview magazine from 1992
He appears with Drew on the cover
He is
in he’s clothed and Drew is nude
Um
it’s
we have we have an episode about that
too, guys, if you want to go listen
Yes, we do
There are many episodes,
y’all
We’ve covered a lot
Um, we’ve
also covered this next guy
Um, this is,
um, Drew’s first husband, Jeremy Thomas
Very brief marriage
Let me go into it
Um, they met at the Roxbury in 1992, but
then they met again at a friend’s house
on February 12th of 1994 and started
dating
So, we’re February 12th, 1994
Here we are
Then they’re like married
at on the spur of a moment on March 20th
at his bar the room
We talked about
this in episode 26
As I mentioned,
we’ve talked about the weddings
Okay,
so that’s March 20th
By Mar by May
10th, Drew’s filed for divorce, but
we’ve since found out um that she
married him to get a green card
So,
this was just kind of a sort of a flash
in the pan, but notable because
they literally published this this
wedding in People magazine
Like, it was
I mean, that’s where most of these
details come from
Like, it’s crazy
Like, they they really presented this to
be a true relationship
at the time
And I do think they were
dating
Drew sometimes made it sound like, oh,
it was a friend I was trying to help
out
But I think they were actually
dating
We’ve also seen
some letters that he has sold to
tabloids that she wrote to him and
they’re very much like I’m in love with
you kind of
loving ones
Yeah, they’re really sweet
He like she like wrote him poetry
Yeah, totally
But later she called him
the devil
So didn’t end well,
right
It was sounds it was really
intense
I mean obviously
Yeah
So, kind of like surrounding
that whole thing is our next
relationship
One of the cutest ones,
but also this is a really big age gap,
too
But I guess it was
This is Eric Erinsson, the guitarist of
Hole
So, he and Drew had first met um man, I
did a lot of research
I still haven’t
pinned down the exact date, but it was
either December 93 or January 94
I know
that
So, she had vomited on his shoes
outside of the music club, Jabberjaw
We’ve told this story a million times
Um, and then they ran into each other
again soon after when Hull was in town
doing the album photo shoot for Live
Through This, which Drew’s friend Ellen
von Unworth was doing
But I know, but they didn’t start dating
until Drew was in Seattle filming Mad
Love in summer 94
And some in one of
the articles we covered recently, she’s
like, “Oh, I had to go get married and
figure my out first and then I
could start dating this guy
“
I don’t think it like in my mind those
things do not overlap
I can’t I almost can’t see them
overlapping in my head
Wow, that’s
through the research of this podcast
that I’ve really like nailed down the
timeline and been like, “Whoa, that’s
weird
“
So wild
And I love that she’s like said
that like confirmed
Um, Drew and Eric were super super in
love
Like, she was crazy about him
She
talked about him with so much love in
her heart
They did live together in LA
Um, I mean, they were together for a
long time
She was constantly on tour
with Hull
And, you know, I think this
is one of our favorite eras of Drew
So,
of course, we have a certain fondness
for any photo of them together
Um, they were
last seen together on the red carpet in
April of 1996 and there was really no
explanation that I think we’ve ever seen
for their breakup
Um,
yeah
And she hasn’t really talked about
their breakup like
No, she speaks of him very with a lot of
love still
Um, but yeah, we’ve never
really heard what happened, but we can
kind of It could be because of the next
guy or there may have not have been an
overlap
We don’t really know
But it was a very tender
relationship like like you said
Um this
timeline is like our favorite like Yeah
And I had a chance to briefly meet Eric
Erson with Jolina and I told him you are
one of my my favorite boyfriends of Drew
Barrymore
And I feel like he was like
oh I love Drew
Like he’s you know of
course like it was really funny but I
told him that
I also they were like um
photographed together twice after their
breakup like at events on like on random
like
Oh, I don’t even remember
Yeah, I think one was the American
History X premiere and then the other
one was like this art show like way in
the future when she was with Will
Do
you remember this
Is it the art show that was like
Shepherd Fair’s art show
Yes, I think so
It’s cute though
We love a little
reunion between Drew and anyone from her
past
Oh my god
I mean, yeah
Speaking of uh
reunions that we love
So, Luke Wilson, we love Luke Wilson
We were just talking about him at the
top of the show because literally he
Yeah
Drew and uh Vince Gilligan
Talked to him on the phone on our show
We also were just talking about how much
we love him and Charlie’s Angels
Like
Luke comes up a lot on this show
Yes,
we love Luke
So, um, of course, as you
probably know as Drew Barrymore fans,
they were cast as love interests in both
Best Men and Home Fries, but both in
1996, which is wild
It still blows my mind that Home Fries
is from was filmed in ’96 because it
came out in ’98
But anyway,
you know what’s so funny is that, like I
said, it keeps like coming in my orbit
So I found out they were still
potentially filming in January 97 and
that blew my mind because I was like
that is a 96 filmed movie and it’s just
so silly
What it crossed over
Um and they
I this Drew has basically described that
was like love at first sight
Um if you
don’t know the quote
the camels,
right
What is it like
I would I
would follow those
Um he was wearing
brown shoes and I would follow those
across any desert or something or Yeah
camel colored shoes
Anyway,
camels
I’m butchering it
I’m butchering it
So, they were really pretty
seriously together for close to two
years
Um he said uh she said that he
broke up with her during the filming of
Never Been Kissed in summer of 1998
Um
though they were seen together
afterwards
um they continued to be on
and off for a little bit and Drew has
now we’ve heard her describe it as an
open relationship um through the end of
1999
So we don’t have like a definitive
end
Um
yeah, well I guess we kind of do when
the next guy comes in, but
that’s a good point
That’s a very good
point
Um I will just say when every
time we’ve seen Drew encounter Luke on
her show or anything, it’s the cutest
We would love to see them back together
Like
honestly, he’d probably be my number one
pick for her to get back together with
Like he is so sweet
And it I I was really like bothered when
when the media took the like open
relationship thing and ran with it like
as if that’s how it was the whole time
because in the beginning like she was
like ready to like go move to Texas and
have babies with him
Like they were
very together
I know the open relationship thing
I
mean I think it surprised us a little
bit but also because of the wording
I
think it’s just the wording
They
probably were just like, “Let’s be
casual
“
I think it was more they were on and off
at the end there for a while
And she’s just using that
to kind of describe maybe her mindset or
whatever it was
I don’t know
I don’t know
All right
Now, we have husband number
two,
Tom Green
Also, we just talked about
him a lot because so Drew had a crush on
him
She really loved his MTV show and
so she asked him to be in Charlie’s
Angels
Go watch the last episode if you
want to know more about that
So they started dating during filming in
early 2000 and they were engaged by
July
Again, these some of these
relationships just go boom boom boom
Love junkie, right
This one was just a total whirlwind
because it was like really playing out
in the media in such an extreme way and
they were like feeding into that
You
know, that was kind of Tom’s thing and
Drew was like, “All right, I guess I’m
going to be the fun girlfriend and go
along with this
” Um they dealt with him
going through testicular cancer and her
house burning down during all of this
Like it was chaos
Um so and they
were like always playing with the press
about if they were married or not or
when are they going to married
Oh, we
got married yesterday
Oh, we’re going
to get married in two weeks
Like it was
I mean they were just always messing
around with the press
But
it’s really funny
But the real thing finally did
happen on July 7th, 2001
And again, you
can go listen to our episode 26 to get
more details about their wedding
Uh,
but then Tom filed for divorce on
December 17th, 2001, citing
irreconcilable differences
That’s my
celebrity profile narrator voice I like
to bring up every once in a while
Um, irreconcilable differences
You know what I’m talking about
Yeah, of course I do
He does talk
pretty extensively in his book about,
you know, what happened there
And I
really think it comes down to just being
from two totally different worlds
And then all this like craziness that
happened during the relationship in the
media and it just, you know, was not
sustainable
Wasn’t there some We were
Maybe it was one of the articles where
she was talking a lot about like how
tumultuous it was like right after the
fire like how like
like mentally she was going through
I
mean I like Yeah
And that it was like
really intense and that they were trying
to like
I think she says like we’re fighting a
lot or something to that effect
So
yeah, I can’t imagine going through all
the stuff they went through, but he has
been on our show and they also had a
very like lovely exchange like so
I mean from everything that we know it
feels like he was actually a really
stable influence on their life which is
like not what you’d expect from this
wacky guy
Um, I think he’s one of many
who came from a very like stable, happy
family and Drew is attracted to these
guys who have that, you know, makes a
lot of sense
We’ll see it come up again
and again
Yes, we will
She craved that family
thing
Yeah,
totally
I Oh, I was going to say one
more thing about Tom Green is that I
remember when Drew started dating him
I
remember my brother saying to tease me,
she’s going to marry him
And I was like, “No, she’s not
” And
then like within the year,
Starfish, where are you going
Where are
you going, Starfish
Where are you going
again
She’s going to go see The Strokes
That’s where she’s going
Yes, she is again and again and again
Um, we also love this guy
So,
Fabitio Moretti, who uh is was Are the
strokes still a thing
Yeah, they just came to Vegas and I
couldn’t get tickets
It was like sold
out immediately
Oh, okay
So, the Strokes, the drummer
of the Strokes,
um they met backstage at Coachella when
the Strokes were playing in late April
2002
And then they were pictured together the
very next day at an event
So, like I
think it was kind of immediate with
them
Um and then it proceeded to be
Drew’s longest relationship to date,
which is so odd to think about
He was
younger than her
I think he might
right
He was a bit younger than her and
maybe Justin, too
And don’t
forget Fab and Justin have the same
birthday
Oh my god
Is it the same year or two
I don’t know
But uh just pencil this in
your mind, guys
It was June 2nd
You
might hear that date a little bit later
on in this episode
Oh my god, I forgot about that whole
thing
Okay, so that was her longest
relationship
There were always rumors
of like breakups and engagements and but
nothing was really ever confirmed
And
it seemed like their relationship was
like pretty stable throughout
Like it
seemed like a pretty like decently good
relationship
I remember like paparazzi
of them fighting, but like
Oh yeah, I forgot about that
But it is what it is
It is what it And also like that was
such a fun time to like always see
pictures of her at their shows and
they seemed very in love
Like remember
when we went to the star ceremony and he
was in the crowd like just looking at
her so proudly
And we met Fab
Don’t forget that
We’ve met him twice
Oh my god
One in once
was in Vegas
And then I The other time was at
the bowling alley
The bowling alley like everyone else is
going to know
Um do we tell that story
I’m sure we’ve told that story, but I’ll
just I’ll real quick
We went down to
universal citywalk because the Strokes
were playing and I don’t know
We were
hoping something would happen
We see
Drew
We didn’t see Drew, but this guy
from KROQ just walked up to us and
Joalena and he’s like, “Hey, do you guys
want to meet the strokes
Like, we’re
doing a meet and greet fun thing at the
Lucky Strike Bowling Alley and I have
extra passes or who even knows
” Like,
that was the power of
literally it just right
It just it just
fell on us
We manifested that just like we did
Sam Rockwell
We were just sitting
there, but we were sitting in the in the
area, you know, like we were being we
were placed very strategically
still
It was amazing
And he was super,
right
He was super sweet and I have an
amazing photograph that I took of Fab
Like,
oh my god, we have to be fun to share
that, right
Yes, we have to
It’s like one of the
best photos I’ve ever seen in my life
It’s also really weird
The reason it’s
so crazy, I’ll just tell you guys, is
the flash is somebody else’s flash
Like
my flash was not on
It’s lit by the
side
Like I think it’s there’s
something really weird that’s happening
and it’s amazing
Um and he was really
sweet every time
Like I mean the both
times it was very just like
lovely just like I don’t remember
anything we talked about
It was
probably very quick but sweet guy
Um
anyway um news of their split hit in
January 2007
So that’s like yeah
they’re they were together for almost
five years
Almost five years
Um and I don’t think
we’ve ever really gotten much
information on what happened there
Um,
oh, I guess I could say one more thing
about it
Like, don’t we know that an
illustration that he did was on the Drew
Barrymore show set for a while
Yeah, I was going to say that
I think
um I think it’s still there and got
moved, but it’s like I think she has the
original in her New York apartment
Like
I’ve seen it there and then there’s like
a blown up version on the Drew Barrymore
show set
So, they obviously there’s
still love there
I would He should come
on the show
That’d be fun
That would be fun
Something to promote
Come on, Fab
I
feel like he’s like seems shy or
something, right
Like even when we met
him, like I don’t remember any words
I
just remember sweetness
Just a cute little smile
All right
Another little cutie coming
up here
So Justin Long
He’s probably
like I’m Him and Luke are kind of equal
to me as far as like they’re so cute
I
love her with them
So Drew and Justin
had originally met through Sam Rockwell,
mutual friend, and then they started
dating
They started dating after Justin was
cast in the Flower Films He’s Just Not
That Into You film
And they were first pictured together in
September 2007
I think it was like
Austin city limits or something like
that
They spent a lot of time in Austin
together
I think that’s why I like
think something with him
Um
they were together for a little while
We definitely like saw them
They were a
picture together a lot
They were like
paparazzi, the two of them, I feel like,
more than her in any other relationship
I think a cover of like US
Weekly was them at the beach, I think
Why was that
You’re right
I think it
was People
That’s even like kind of wilder
in a way
So, they were like very much an
item, but they broke up around the time
that Whippet began filming in July 2008
Drew’s rep even confirmed it to people
And we have our theories that he was
originally supposed to have the role in
Whippet that Jimmy Fallon ended up
doing
Um I think we had heard that
somewhere along the line and it totally
makes sense if you think about it
So they broke up, but then they
started regularly being spotted together
again starting in March 2009
And then
you know continually after that they
made going the distance together that
summer
They never like confirmed they
were dating again, but it was super
obvious
Like, right,
they went to the Emmys together
Like,
he was supporting her through all the
whip it promotion
Like, even at the end
of SNL, we talked about that he’s like
right there on stage with holding hands
with her
Um, but they were last pictured together
as what feels like an official couple at
the GLAD Awards in April 2010, but then
they were still super friendly and cute
together when they promoted Going the
Distance in August of that year
But
from what I recall, they were like
definitely not together anymore at that
point
And another one that’s been on
our show and was like
multiple times, I think
And it’s like
it’s very clear that there is like
forever love between them
But I also
love how I also So sometimes I feel like
Drew goes a little hard trying to be
like, I love your wife
Like very
hard
And I know she actually does, but
what’s what’s her name
Kate Bosworth
Kate Bosworth
So it seems like you know
Justin and Kate Bosworth they seem very
very very in love but also like I think
Drew and Justin still love each other
Like they say it to each other like
there’s but not in a I don’t think
that’s anyway it’s very lovely very
tender
I I love that Drew has these
like
the positive things that like in out of
her like some of her loving
relationships like it’s lovely
I also always think about like how
she’s described that time period that
they were together as like hedonistic
Like that’s when we got her just like
wearing the most outrageous clothes and
crazy makeup on her face and they were
always going out to like concerts and
all kinds of stuff
Like it’s
Do we have a 2009 episode where we talk
about Yes
So you can hear us talk
about all the wacky outfits
And I feel like
fun year
she got something like out of her system
and that’s sort of like
the page turns to take a
yes
phrase for MC G
right so big page turning to Drew
meeting the father of her children
So,
we are talking about Will Kopelman
Um,
always just described as an art dealer,
whatever that means,
right
Um, from a wealthy New York
family with ties to Chanel
I think it’s
like, yeah, it’s a whole there’s money
on that in that family
And, you know,
Drew is a famous person, has plenty of
money on her own
So, you know, I have
this feeling like there I mean, it’s
very different
There’s a very different
like old money feeling
There’s like a
society thing
With his family that I get that I think
and I’m speculating, but I feel like she
never felt she lived up to it
Does that make sense
I I think I agree with you
I think she
never fully felt comfortable or felt
like it was like Yeah
Whether it was
living up to it or what it was
I Yeah,
this is a this is obviously a hard
relationship for a couple of reasons
So, let’s let’s just get into a little
bit more
So, um, they had met and gone
on a date a few years earlier, but
nothing came of it
That’s so
interesting to me that they had like me,
too
tried it before and then and then they,
um, reunited at a party at the actress
Lake Bell’s house
There was a cute
story on her show about that, right
Um, and they were spotted together for
the first time at a root show in
February of 2011
I always remember this picture and being
like, who’s this frat boy looking guy
with Drew
Like, he does not look like
her type
I don’t even remember it
Like
I’m not I’m not remembering the like
first look and even looking back at it
now I’m like oh this is funny
You you
wouldn’t know that he is like a wealthy
quote unquote art dealer
So then pretty quickly
So
they announced their engagement um in
January of 2012
I guess that’s almost a
year
So that’s quite a while
That’s true
Um but it’s it’s still relatively
quickly
Um, I do remember thinking that
every time they were like pictured
together, she did feel very
polished in a different way, right
Like
it did feel like she was really trying
Trying to be this like
mature Chanel girl
Um, so they were they were um engaged by
January of 2012 and they were full uh
photographed holding an ultrasound in
February
So basically it was like
shotgun wedding
Is that what you call
that
But very sweet
I know you’ve we talked
about with the wedding
I know you said
it’s your least favorite wedding dress,
but I do think it’s very sweet that
she’s pregnant and you can see that
she’s pregnant and it’s absolutely
it’s sweet
Um they were married on June 2nd
Oh, what’s that date
Which happens to be the birthday of two
ex-boyfriends of Drews
And they welcomed baby Olive on
September 26th
So her family, this is
the thing that she I think I think that
was probably huge for her
Absolutely
I mean, we know it was
I think it was like this guy has an
amazing family and I want to start a
family and time is running out and like
I’m ready to do this
Like I think she
said at one point way back in the day
like one of the only things she hasn’t
rushed into is being a mom
Like she was
waiting for the right moment and this is
when it presented itself to her
She was gathering information like
butterflies in a net
Butterfly net
So then they welcomed their
second child Frankie on April 22nd of
2014
So just a couple less than a
couple years later
And then by April
2016, they had filed for divorce
So um
they released a joint statement to
people
I remember think this was very
beautifully done
But it’s also kind of heartbreaking, you
know
So it says, “Sadly, our family is
separating legally, although we do not
feel this takes away from us being a
family
Divorce might make one feel like
a failure, but eventually you start to
find grace in the idea that life goes
on
Our children are our universe and we
look forward to living the rest of our
lives with them as the first priority
I know that’s beautiful and it feels
true
I mean for at least for a couple
years they seem to be very much
co-parenting like going to like holidays
together and all that stuff
I think
that has sort of
faded a bit in recent years which makes
sense
He’s remarried
They have
you know he has another child and
another one on the way
right
But um yeah, I mean Drew moved to
New York to have her daughters be closer
to him and his family like
right, you know, it’s it’s a real
it’s it’s huge
But she’s also said that
her girls are the most amazing thing
that’s ever happened to her
I don’t get
the sense that Will that there was
anything like wrong with Will
I just
think that
it wasn’t the right fit for her
Yeah, that’s a great way to put it
And
you know, we know that her divorce from
him was literally like the hardest thing
she’s ever gone through
Like she said
like she thought going to rehab at 13
was like the lowest she could go
It’s that was even lower
Um which
is just crazy
So I’m glad that there
seems to be some peace there
Um but you know, she hasn’t really dated
much since with one little exception
This guy always gets left out of the
story, but let’s just briefly touch on
this
All right, so David Hutchinson, who
worked at Mesa, which was the parent
company of Flower Beauty, she started
being spotted with him in April 2017,
and there were even like times where he
was pictured with her and her daughter,
so couldn’t have been too casual unless
he was just like a friend hanging out
Um, but by June of that year, 2017, it
was being reported by Page 6 and people
that they were dating and Drew had like
tagged him in some of her Instagram
captions at the time
They also went to Tony Crago’s wedding
together
So, they were a thing
Um,
August 2017 seems to be the last time
that we really saw them together
I got
tired of going through every single
folder that we have
But um he like came
with a group on a private jet for Chris
Miller’s birthday
So that was like the
last time that I really noticed
But
yeah, it’s interesting
He’s always kind
of left out of the story
Like she
always says like, “I’ve never dated
since my divorce
” And I’m like, “Oh,
sorry, David
“
But maybe it’s like, you know, she
didn’t really find any of the people
that she’s been on dates with, including
him,
to be serious enough maybe to
I don’t know
Yeah,
I don’t know
But yeah, we’ve got that
little thing that is a blip that she
almost seems to have forgotten
And it’s
crazy that that was so long ago
Like
we’re talking over eight years and
there’s that’s the end of the list
Like
that is the end of the list
But guys,
there’s good news because Drew has like
openly said she’s single and happy to be
single
I mean, I think she feels like
she says like if the right time comes,
the right person comes
like, but she’s
really been pretty open about being
single for the last 8 years, as you
said
Um, she speaks on her show a lot
about like going on dates, but like
nothing ever really turning into
anything notable
I always get
my hopes up, but then I’m like, “Oh,
that didn’t happen
But she, like I said, she’s
pretty happy with her current life
Um,
she has said like she isn’t really sure
she wants to invite anyone into it
like
she’s like it’s kind of lovely the way
it is
Um but always open
She’s like, you know, she loves love
Did you see um recently when Ross told
her that he had somebody that he wanted
to introduce her to and she seemed
intrigued and excited and I trust Ross’
judgment
He seems like a great person
to set her up with someone
But I also love that he like seemed like
he had the epiphany on the air
Or like to tell her on the air
Yeah, for sure
That was I mean that’s cute
I
mean we’ll see what happens
I mean
we’ll see
We’re always rooting for her,
you know
It’s like
wherever her happiness is, but it it is
exciting when she’s got a partner, you
know, it’s a whole different thing as a
fan
But yeah, if she just wants to be
single, I mean, let’s hear what she had
to say just recently um to the audience
at the Drew Barrymore Show
One thing I do know about being single,
and I have been single for so many
years, like eight I think years, is that
one day it might be gone
I think it’s
an amazing time to enjoy your time
because before you know it, someone’s
going to walk into your life and that’ll
be all different from there on out
So,
who’s ever single out there, enjoy this
time because before you know it, at some
point you’ll be sharing a life with
someone
It would be a disaster and a
waste to not love the time you get to
yourself
I do really enjoy being
single
That’s perfect
Yeah, it’s a great way to sum it up
Yeah, perfect sentiment to describe
where she is after this uh kind of
flurry of love
throughout her life
Um, yeah, Drew, we
love you
We support your love of love,
whether you’re single or in a
relationship
All right, cool
So, we did it
There’s
your list, guys
If you uh you know, we
might eventually go in deeper on some of
these relationships
That’s kind of the
plan
But um we sort of realized we need
this like overarching
definitive list
As I said, I was
telling Anne before we started recording,
it sort of reminds me of our tattoos
episode where it’s like we need to just
put out the record of when they all
happened and why and then you know that
it’ll all be there for someone to enjoy
We want to be the source
So, we’re
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Still
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Who’s going to break the
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Happy anniversary for episode 111
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Three year anniversary of the pod
We’re celebrating that on this episode
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I know we’ve done this before, but like
you didn’t have your second daughter at
that point
I wasn’t living in Maine
yet
Like,
wow
There’s so many like big things
that have happened since then
Like,
right, how did we like do this weekly
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I don’t know
We were insane
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And really, I think like this is
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some of our episodes have just like done
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skews the the stats here
But, um, our
third most popular was episode 92, which
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Totally
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Uh, second is episode 85, which is
the year in review for 1999, which is a
great one as well
That’s fun
And then our number one most listened to
episode released in the past year was 89
and that was for movie line 1994
So,
oh, good taste
Not even the gossipy movie line 1992
Might have been like just before
Really close
That might have been the year before
like to Yeah, that might be why
I mean, that’s
always fun, but that’s neat to see that
people really liked or seemed to like
whatever the algorithm the movie was
where YouTube told them to watch
Yeah, exactly
Like, that’s cool that
that series I mean, it was fun to do
that series, too
So, I’m glad a lot of
people seem to have heard it
So, we are recording
kind of early, so we don’t have a lot of
stuff at the top, but we do at this
point in the episode, in our anniversary
episodes, we usually drop in some uh
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Like a
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They told me they were listening to our
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He said, “How is it working with someone
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How is it working with someone you
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She said, “All of a sudden, one night, I
don’t know why it hit me
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That’s what you get for having a
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111 episodes in
It’s mostly for
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So, we don’t have a lot at the
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bit before we get into the third of our
summer series
Okay, let’s go back to way back August
14th, 1982
And this is kind of an interesting one
There’s a reason I pull it I pulled it
Um, so Drew attended little Drew, little
seven-year-old Drew, attended the
birthday party for her manager at the
time, Larry A
Thompson at Mayon
He’s
like very like um legendary manager kind
of guy in entertainment and it’s really
just cute little Drew in a sweet little
white dress hanging out with a bunch of
adults as we know like would become
common
about how it was
But I feel like this might have been
like one of the first times, you know,
that that really happened
Um
Larry did later appear on one of those
television biography specials about her
might have been Bravo profiles
It might
have been like the the original cut of
biography which like yeah that one’s not
on YouTube so I couldn’t find it but I
definitely remember an interview with
him
And then I did find something cute
where he told the Hollywood Reporter in
2016 that Drew was a star from the very
beginning
So I like that
A that’s really cute
That’s sweet
I I love this like juxaposition of
Drew with the adults that just becomes
such a staple in her childhood
Absolutely
And I think that the reason
I said this one’s kind of notable is
because this is where one of those
really famous photos of little Drew was
taken
And it looks like there’s an
empty glass next to her and it looks
like she’s passed out on the table
Really, it’s like probably a glass of
water
It’s not even necessarily in
front of her and it looks like she’s
just a bored and tired kid who’s out at
this party with all these grown-ups and
she’s seven
Like, or could it just been the
moment she just put her head down like
Yeah, it was it was used because it
could be easily construed as that, but
yeah, she wasn’t quite um
drinking yet
I mean, it would
I mean, very close, but not
very close
Wasn’t one of the first
times at like a rap party
Yeah, the
fire starter one
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Okay, back to the beach
Oh, it’s time, baby
It is time
hit the saxophone
Um, before we get into the last two
episodes of 20,000 Malibu Road, um, just
want to say first of all, go listen to
our other two episodes covering these
because like you got to follow through
the whole thing
But, um, I did find
this really funny review, this little
paragraph here that I wanted to include
because it just cracked me up
It says,
“Four women, a brain, two bods, and a
bizarro
inhabit the most expensive and maybe the
strangest rooming house in the history
of television at 2000 Malibu Road
The strangest rooming house
This was
before um why am I forgetting what that
show was where people would like live in
a house together and they stopped being
polite and started being real
This is like right at the same time as
the
world
That’s so funny
You’re like, I
don’t remember what it’s called, but
they stop stop being polite and they
start getting real
Real world
Oh, all right
Um, so real
world with uh these three actresses or
these four actresses
So,
nothing like the real world
Um, the
final two episodes, five and six, aired
together on September 9th
Um, we had
previously said that the final episode
aired on the 16th, but we were incorrect
there
Um, so you found a whole bunch of
various like TV magazines, I’m assuming
Yeah, like newspaper listings and stuff
And it does sound like it was supposed
to go through the 16th, but I found one
that said the show was pulled from the
schedule because it aired as part of a
2-hour episode on September 9th
All episodes have aired and CBS hasn’t
decided whether to make more
So that’s what it said at that
point
Well, that’s not what happened
We’ll get into that at the end
Um, so before we like really go
beat by beat, what was your feeling
about these last ones
So, you told me they were going to
be kind of nuts
And I I felt like they
could have been more nuts
Oh, didn’t go bizarro enough for you
I don’t know
Like I think maybe I was
just expecting it to be
I don’t know
Maybe as we’re going through I’ll tell
you ways that it could have been gone
crazier
But I I almost felt like
I was like anticipating it and maybe
because some of the things are tropey
I
don’t know
Like this is definitely where
it starts feeling like a soap opera
especially like
the joy wacky stuff that um you know
isn’t necessarily what you’d have in
real life
There are multiple things that
it’s like what
A lot of what moments for me
But we’ve had those and we
still get a laugh out of the rest of the
show
We’re going to laugh a lot in this one,
I think
I think so
No different
than the others
Okay, opening scenes
We get Drew pretty
quickly in this one
Um, first we see
Munoz, the only cop in town, spying on
the house and the bushes
with binoculars
And I was like, he and
Joyce should probably like compare
spying tactics
They both have their
binoculars
And uh, someone’s finally using this big
pool at the house
And it’s our girl
Drew
And they film her in sexy slow-mo
cuz of course
Oh my god
I’m like, Joel, come on
Did
you have to do this
But she looks great
Rocking the bikini
It definitely I started thinking of like
gross comparison cuz she’s only 13 in
it
But uh Far from Home
She also rocks
a black bikini in that one
Um, so I love that this the second
Lindsay gets out of the pool, Joy is
right there to surprise her with the
towel,
genuinely like scares her a little bit
And Lindsay is really overjoy [  ] finally And we’re going to see that a lot in these last two episodes Uh, let’s play this little clip All right, let’s get a taste I saw you on the beach last night with Eric You thought I was sleeping, but I wasn’t Oh, so you spied on me No, I just wanted to make sure you were all right Well, obviously I was, [  ]
What
The come with Drew herself
Um, and then Joy, of course, launches
into more lies about why her ex dumped
her
I forget what they say his name
Byron or something
It’s kind of like an
old school name
Um, and apparently he had told It sounds
like she said he like told everyone
the whole town
that she was a [  ] because she slept with him before they got married and he wanted to marry a virgin Like, oh my god Yeah, it’s awful And then she went on to warn her, “Don’t go too far with Eric It’s just over the top ” I mean, we we kind of knew that I I mean, we suspected that maybe Joy had something to do with the separation with the person she was supposed to marry And hence why you’re like big lies It’s poor poor Lindsay And it really does a number on her She’s going to be dealing with this for most of the episode, actually Yeah, she is And I feel like she also at this point, she’s definitely like, “Joy, you’re bullshitting me Like her even like the expression in like in like some of that parts like I feel like she’s just like like this look of like disbelief like I can’t believe you’re still doing this Anyway, um so then Perry and Roger, uh Jennifer Beiels and then her stupid guy, um they pull up to the house and this is the first time where you really get like the grasp of how huge this property is in the front Like all the other episodes when they showed the exterior, it almost looked like it was just from like the street, but it’s like this huge compound And they do show a lot more of this area in these final episodes I don’t know why they didn’t utilize it before, but it’s so big and I cannot believe I can’t track it down I have like done so many reverse image searches I can’t find anything on this house Someone’s got to know So weird And maybe it’s just like gone and has been gone for a long time Like maybe it was just like completely something else was built there Yeah, it could be So yeah, then we get this really like I mean I know I’ve been saying how sweet some of their scenes are, but I love your note that he’s totally lovebombing I mean last time he asked her to move in with him, they’re like barely dating at that point and now he’s like I love you and just Yeah I was like [  ]
this guy
Like I am not buying this at
all
I just I also had to note that she said
like she’s afraid now
But in this case,
she’s like talking about like her fiance
or husband like died, so she’s afraid to
be in love again
Um, but she does seem like more
tentative in this scene about him than
she does in others maybe
Like I don’t
know
Like she’s saying I I’m falling in
love with you
She doesn’t respond to
his like
she almost says it against her will,
right
That’s what I mean
Like she
seems like not quite sure
A little nervous about it
That’s why she’s the brain
All right, the next scene, Jade has some
big news, of course
So, it starts out with Lindsay
She’s
still trying to get some advice about
men
She’s just so poor Lindsay
She
just doesn’t know how to do anything
And this time, she’s asking Jade, but
it’s kind of like, can I make an
appointment with you later to talk about
this
They don’t really get a chance to
talk about it before the others join
them
So, Jade tells everybody that they’re
going to have to look for a new place to
live
Um, and Joyy’s like, “Oh, that’s
great for you, Perry, because she just
spent two whole nights in a row with
Roger
” I’m like, “Oh my god, let’s jump
the gun a little bit here
” So, yeah,
out of nowhere, Jade introduces her
fiance, this like gross guy that we met
in the previous episode, and everyone
seems pretty like stoked for her, which
is kind of weird that they can’t sense
the weirdness of it, but I don’t know
Um, and Perry is the one who’s like kind
of thinking about it, like you said, the
brain
Um, unfortunately, Joy is just
being a weird creep and says, “May I
kiss the groom
So weird
She’s always got to be horny
Like that’s part of her character
And somehow like she’s just weird
enough that like people just let her do
it
Um,
I also think it’s funny that like right
after that there’s like this cute like
it seems like Joy, Perry, and Lindsay
are like kind of like giggling together
about it
It’s a little It’s a little weird, but
it’s kind of cute
I do really love how Drew looks in this
scene
We should have mentioned it
She’s wearing just like a bathrobe and
sunglasses, and she looks super glam
Like, this is only one of the times I’m
like, “Yeah, she looks like she could be
like a famous actress, you know
“
So cute
She does look really cute
And there’s a horribly disgusting scene
right after this with Jade’s mom and the
fiance and they’re just treating her
like absolute [  ] Like it’s it’s like freaky how bad it gets Um the guy even says that when they get married he can come home to his very own full-time personal hooker So disgusting And her mom’s like right there And he also admits he’s marrying her for the money and to aid him in his political ambitions Like he’s like, I must have a wife Like it’s just all really gross Like even before the personal hooker thing, he’s like, I’ll go out with whoever I want and then I’ll come home to my full-time push hooker and you’re always going to say yes to me Like but like pretty soon after this, I’m pretty sure she like hits him in the balls and then walks away Like totally deserves like gets in her car and she’s out of there And that’s I think it on him I think he’s he’s like, “Never mind This isn’t worth it ” For this episode at least I mean, yeah So, we have another scene with Jade and her friend, client lawyer, dude It’s It’s weird because at this point, I mean, he always seems like slimy Um she like is kind of asking him to help her sort of like run away Like get her out of the country, which he’s like telling her not to do at first, but then he he like encourages her to go to a motel with a fake name in a disguise He’s like a dark wig He acts like it’s all off the cuff, but he like has a name prepared for her and everything Do you think, And it’s still unclear to me even after being completely done Is he working for her family I can’t don’t know Determined I guess I guess what I was I was thinking is that the voice that maybe she hears later is like her dad or you know or somebody like that I was thinking that too I was actually listening for that and I just couldn’t tell We’ll we’ll explain that when we get to the end of the episode But that might be a clue that we would have gotten more information on But who knows So Lindsay and Eric are on the beach together and um Lindsay’s a little testy at first because she’s being affected by Joyy’s lies about her being a [  ] and she
thinks like, you know, maybe Eric’s only
interested in her for sex, but he’s just
like, “No, like we’re good
” Like he
charms her really quickly with
sweetness
He like he really deals with
her really well throughout the entire
show
He seems to like bring her kind of
back down out of these like places that
usually Joy is bringing her
Yeah, exactly
And I do absolutely love
when Joy shows up to interrupt them
He
does a really great groan
I didn’t cue
it up, but he’s just like
And then Joy takes Lindsay away to go
practice lines
You know, Joy, he’s actually very nice
Yeah, that’s because he hasn’t gotten
what he wants yet
You know, all men
cannot be as bad as you say they are
Oh, Lindsay, you are so young and so
naive
I wish you could stay this week
And I’m sorry that I have to be the one
to tell you just how gross and
animalistic the male species really is
Do you think at a later point we would
have learned that like some dude did a
number on Joy
cuz I feel like she’s
always like projecting this like
hatefulness towards men
Except no,
she’s not really because she wants every
dude she comes in contact with
It’s
really I guess just on Lindsay’s behalf
that all men are
but also like the way she is around
other people in general is weird
Really
weird
Like
true
I don’t we I don’t know what’s up with
Joy
Like
I don’t have a clue
I think she’s
overprotective of Lindsay obviously and
is making up like making putting things
whatever taking things out of
proportion
blowing things out of proportion
Thank you
So
then um Perry’s not able to reach Roger
of course
and
after this like love bomb
And um and then and also Sergeant Munoz
stops by
Okay, so Munoz is admitting to
unofficially
trailing Jade because he thinks she’s in
danger
Um, which is cool
Like he’s
paying attention like we said earlier in
this or last episode, I think
I mean, it’s a good thing the only cop
in town is paying attention
Um, and he’s not able to find any legit
information on Jade’s lawyer/friend
So,
we already get this like you were so
like right away like this guy is [  ] I hate him He starts off trying to drown her in the ocean in the very beginning That’s right And I couldn’t remember that Um, so Perry at this point in the episode is like visibly buzzed and she’s like kind of like being a little like casual with the cop, but I feel like they all are a little bit I don’t know Well, no, I think she does feel like she’s being a little flirty with him I like how you said a little familiar in your notes And and you can tell like because the scene ends with him being like do me a favor and drink some black coffee before you drive She’s like, “Oh ” She’s like looking at her wine glass Is it that obvious Of course, this is like a continuation of the like them pushing that she’s like drinking a lot of wine so it never goes anywhere No, it does I mean, doesn’t seem to Um, so it turns out that Jade’s friend, this lawyer quote unquote, was just renting his office, a furnished office week to week He he Perry finds out cuz she goes there She goes there and they’re like cleaning it out He moved out Um and then later Perry discovers that there’s no one with his name registered to practice law in the state So officially a fraud What a piece of [  ] He didn’t expect
the brain to be investigating this, did
he
So now this is this was the first
moment where I was like what what is
this soap opera craziness
So
we see Roger or so we think walking
walking down some street
I don’t know
what he’s doing
And somebody stops him
and he’s like, “Hey Roger, we played
football together
And he’s like I get is he’s either a
split personality or an evil twin
Very
doppelgangeres
And he says, “I ain’t never played no
football
“
He’s like wearing a leather black
leather jacket
He doesn’t look like surfer guy anymore
And I just couldn’t help but think
like maybe this version did actually
sexually assault his ex
Oh, I think for sure
I mean, once we get to the end of this
episode, I was like, “Oh,
yeah
Um, I do like that Joy says to
Perry, “Don’t tell me that miserable
flaky Roger did another disappearing
act
” And I was like, “Yes, that’s what
I’ve been saying, girl
“
And then I She also says, “If that
psycho hasn’t killed him, I promise you
I will
“
What a good friend, huh
Perfectly perfectly joy, too
I guess
she’s protective of everyone
Everyone who’s in her corner, I guess,
right
So now I guess this Jessica Rally
show thing cuz it’s back on
You know,
it’s whatever for now
They’re in
they’re in a meeting for the show
It
sounds like they’re going to maybe do a
run through
And you notice that Drew is wearing the
same dress and earrings from the first
scene in episode 1
Her hair even
looks the same
I’m like, did they film
these simultaneously
But it also
doesn’t feel like they planned out the
show like that far in advance
But I I
bet they filmed the six episodes like
together
Yeah, probably
I’d be interested to
know like it’s it’s so she looks exactly
the same
So,
do we and we do we know the timeline
We
do know the timeline of they of their
filming
So, it probably is
We have like an idea
It’s pretty short
window
So, they probably just filmed them all,
but that would be really weird if they
had something like this far into Well,
who knows
It’s very possible
Um, so of course Joy has some notes on
the script
Um, like she shouldn’t even
be sitting at this table
Let’s be real
No, it doesn’t make any sense
Um, she
says she’s like very adamant that the
writers aren’t capturing Lindsay’s
character, so she took the liberty to
hire a freelancer so she could, you
know, get the young stuff in there
And
this just like completely starts a
like everyone is just so embarrassed
Lindsay embarrassed
Like Scott’s so
embarrassed
Who cares about Scott
But
like he’s so embarrassed
And Jessica is pissed and she’s gonna
quit if Lindsay and her sister don’t
leave the show
So, you know, you can
fill in the blanks here
Drew’s going to
be fired again
Project’s on
Project’s off
Right after this, Scott like phys
like physically pushes Joy out of the
office and locks the door
Like,
you think she’s even like rattling the
door handle
Like, can you imagine what everyone in
this room would think after this
Oh my
goodness
I mean, I know like Joy is
representing herself, thankfully
Well,
I guess she’s representing Drew
Hence,
not Drew, but Lindsay
Um, but of
course, she pulls something that she
both gets her the job and then [  ] it up Of course You’re right She’s like getting wins and losses all the time So Joy and Scott who just had this weird like blowout There’s a lot of like editing choices where I’m like uh your mood in this scene and then your mood in the next scene are really all over the place This is weird So uh Joy and Scott are taking a walk on the beach and it’s like romantic kind of So it’s like we know that we know that Joy wants this, right So, right after Lindsay’s fired, Scott is prepared to have sex with Joy to pay her back for how she’s helped his career He literally says he’s prepared Like, he had to like get himself to this point So, she tricks him into getting naked on the beach I mean, I love her little speech to him We’ve got to play this Absolutely Let me clue you in, little man I will have Lindsay’s career and you on my terms Lindsay will be the biggest star this town has ever seen And I will have you on the floor howling like a dog begging for me And that’s followed by her literally taking his clothes and yelling that he’s a pervert to strangers as he stands there naked And she’s just like yelling after him, Joy It’s pretty great It’s so good Her like turning that around on him I did not expect it, but I love it Howling like a dog So, we’re back to Jade and her stupid fake lawyer or friend He gives her a fake passport I did get a really good 90s giggle out of him going, “I had one of the Polaroids I took of you altered by computer Isn’t that great ” That’s so good and he’s says he has her all set up on a corporate jet to Brazil So full of [  ]
And then this weird scene where he
confesses his love for her again and he
offers to join her
But the whole time
she has her back to him and she’s not
responding to anything
She’s completely
ignoring him like she can’t hear him
So
he’s able to temporarily pull a gun on
her without her noticing
Oh, is he gonna shoot her
I
don’t know
But he can’t
It’s so dramatic
And then it goes back
down
She doesn’t notice anything
She like
literally is in her own world
It’s
hilarious
And then that’s followed by them
making love
Screw cuz he sucks
And also like why does he want to kill
her
Like what is his deal
We will
never know
I mean, we will never know
I was going to say, wait, we’ll see
No,
we won’t
Maybe he was hired to do this whole
scheme on her and then he ended up
actually having feelings for her
I
don’t know
Well, probably based on how he was
seemed to be like, I’m supposed to do
this when he’s like having a gun at her
and then
slowly backs down
I think you’re right
They’re just he’s
just too, you know, he’s too in love
with her
So, we’re at the coffee table with Perry
and Joy and they’re reading the
newspaper and Joy reads that Jessica
Rally’s dude has run off with her
personal trainer and apparently that’s
like the ultimate karma according to
Joy
Do we think Joy had something to
do with this
It feels like she’s taking credit for
it
I don’t know how she could make that
happen
I
I don’t know
But I did notice that when
they were when um Jess when they were at
the table for Jessica Relly’s reading
that like as they as Jessica and like
her guy were leaving, he was like, “I
thought you were going to try to get me
a port
So like could have heard that and
exploited it
Very true
Um we’re at the motel again and how
convenient
Mun knows has been called
there because he’s the only cop in town
because there’s been some sort of
vandalism
it’s not part of the story
And then he sees Jade’s car and this
will come into play later
So very lucky
that he’s the only cop who could come
around
Very lucky
Um and guess what
Guess what happens to Lindsay
again
Um she started filming a show
She’s been fired yet again
Let’s
hear what she has to say about even
she’s starting to understand this is a
pattern
Lindsay, what are you doing
I thought
you’d be working
Take a guess
Don’t tell me you got fired again
I knew it was coming
So did we, Lindsay
Yeah, we knew this was just going to be
this loop over and over and over again
Um, but she’s getting snappy with him
still for that thing that Joy put in her
head and she ends up asking him, “Do you
want me for your movie or do you want me
for sex
“
And he does handle it pretty well
Really well
I mean, she says something like, “Oh, I
want us to have like a professional
relationship if I’m going to do this
with you
” And um he says something
like, “Well, I didn’t expect us to be
platonic
He’s like, “That’s not really
that’s not really what I want, but I’ll
respect it
” Like, he’s great, but I am
getting sick of this reoccurring theme
in the show where every dude is telling
the women, “I’m not going to hurt you
You can trust me
” like with him I
believe it at least but it’s like every
show
right there’s it like later there’s a
Muno thing that’s about trust
um okay so now we have a stretch of a
lot of no Drew but we’ll just give you
guys some updates since this show is
ending
no Drew but lots of drama
yes so Perry’s in her office she can’t
re reach Roger or Jade so she’s like
kind of worried um and then a fax the
fax machine starts you know fax is
coming through
She’s looking at it
Do you guys know what a fax is
Good question
I feel like most of our
audience will, but uh if you don’t h how
do we describe it
It like predates email
It’s like a copy machine, but you’re
getting a message
Um so, uh a text or a text, not a text,
a fax comes through and it says, “You’re
dead
” Like a ransom note
And I like
the unnecessary quotation marks around
it
It’s so good
Like who’s quote who’s
being quoted here
But when I say ransom
note, if you guys don’t know what I
mean, it’s like the cutout letters that
are all janky
And then of course they are able to
trace that it came from a public fax
machine at a drugstore which is a mile
from Perry’s house
So like
somebody close by
But you know, we’re supposed to think
it’s Allison the the psycho ex
And we
never find out
Sorry to tell you guys
We never find out who’s sending her all
these messages
Is it like the evil
Roger
I mean, probably
Probably
I’ll just take us back to the last
episode when we were joking about like,
wouldn’t you have heard somebody um
breaking into the house before they
spray paint
So, maybe he literally is doing it, his
other personality
Well, well, who would
write that
I don’t know
None of it really makes any sense
And
like you said, we won’t have uh we won’t
have any any resolution
All right
Now, this this was another
scene where I was like, “Oh boy, we are
in soap opera territory
” So, Joy is in
the bathtub and she’s making a Scott
voodoo doll and stabbing it repeatedly
with little pins
And not just that, she also has a spell
She does
Let’s enjoy this
Scott Sterling,
heartless lover, faithless friend
I
evoke the power that will bring your
crimes against women to an end
It’s so good
We love Joy
I love that the voodoo doll like has his
actual face, like a picture of his face
on it, too
It’s not just like, you
know, a faceless
uh It’s so great
and I think it works
I mean, based on the fact that yes, they
show him unable to perform with a woman
in the bedroom like that like right as
it’s happening
and he’s like all sweaty looking
I I
honestly I thought we were going to get
him going like h like you know as if he
was being poked with pins
But this this
was good enough
It was good
And then it comes back
later and it’s it’s really it’s just so
silly
It’s like
yeah, you can keep thinking that this
woo woo stuff Joy is doing
Well, it’s something’s happening
Something seems to be happening
She has some power,
right
So, we’re at Jessica Ry’s
hotel suite
And um it’s just full of
flowers and balloons
And I’m like,
really
People sent these to her because
her guy like dumped her
It just feels a
little silly
Over the top
Over the top
Over the top
And of course, who’s
knocking at the door
And yet
again, someone groans at the sight of
her
Yes,
Jess was just like,
“Yes,
yes, she is
“
And I was definitely picking up on what
you mentioned last episode where Joy
sometimes has this like Kitty Farmer
from Donnie Darkco vibe
And it’s that
like impassioned over-the-top
whoa whoa whoa whoa kind of talking
I
like totally heard it here
I don’t your commitment to
sparkle motion
Um, so Joy of course is trying to
comfort Jessica and it’s really
hilarious because she’s talking about
the fact that there’s like alcohol in
the suite and um like is she tempted and
Jessica like admits like opening the
cabinet and then resisting but she like
keeps talking about she’s eating all
these snacks to cope which is really
funny
That I know that comes up a lot
and it feels very again in the like fat
shaming like oh she ate food like oh she
must be really troubled
It’s so silly
And then of course she insists that
they go to an AA meeting again because
she’s going to just try to whatever smoo
some more
I
I don’t understand Joy
I mean
obviously
Um so then we go back to
Jade’s motel
So, we turn to the place
where the cops saw Jade’s car
Um, I
love your note here
I’m
laughing at my own note cuz there’s like
very moody neon lighting like all
through this scene
And I was like, “Oh,
this is like Joel Schumacher practicing
for Batman Forever
” Cuz that’s like how
that whole movie looks
That’s the only time like the style that
we might imagine from that comes
through
Everything else is just like
bright and soap opery
So, the guy from the very first scenes
in the first episode
makes his way to Jade’s room with a gun
Um, she almost gets away to her car, but
then this dude catches up and Munos is
there
He’s not just there
He literally
slides in sideways on his motorcycle,
flips a giant table to use as a shield
and then shoots the guy through the
window
Like it is dramatic,
right
And I was just like that was the
murderer, right
Like I was like trying
to figure out like wait
And we I mean
we don’t really know, I guess
But
he is the one who brought the woman with
her and then she’s the one who was found
dead
Yeah, it’s likely
But that is just like out of
nowhere it just gets like super
dramatic
Um
action
and yeah, Muno shoots a guy
Yeah, he sure does
That’s just like
kind of never really Yeah, that’s just
what happened
And we’re good
We’ll
we’ll move on
So now, even though Perry hasn’t
been able to reach Roger, he just shows
up at the Malibu house almost
immediately saying he doesn’t have much
time, which is so [  ] annoying and he is just full of his [  ] excuses
He’s like saying, “Oh,
I have to get my taxes in order and my
divorce and
I do like at first Perry sort of stands
her ground
” She says, “I know
everyone’s supposed to be laidback out
here by the beach, but I’m not like
that
” And I was like, “Yeah
” But all
he has to do is get a little bit like
puppy dog eyes
And she forgives him and
agrees to meet him in Carmel
And I’m
just like, “So much for her being the
brain
Don’t do it, girl
But I also like it’s like there’s more
love bombing happening here, of course
But she kind of seems to like it because
then she’s like, “You could ask me to
beg a little bit more
” Like she’s like
playing with it a little bit at least
So it works on her
We know it works on
her, I guess, because
Yeah
So, um, so more scenes between
Jade and Ron
Is that his name
Saying my name’s Ron
[Music]
Quick editor’s note
Uh, the character
of Sergeant Munoz in credits online says
that his name was Joe Munoz
And in this
episode, for the first time, he
introduces himself as Ron, which is the
actor’s actual name
Anyways, back to
the show
Sergeant
My name’s Ron
Um, they’re back at the scene of the
crime, but basically they’re there, the
cops are like around, they show all the
lights, and then they show Jade and
she’s no longer wearing the wig that she
was wearing in the previous scene, and
her hair looks like perfect, like just
right
Of course it does
Um, and then Munoz tells her the truth
about her stupid like quote unquote
lawyer lawyer friend Hal
Um, and then
Jade makes up a story to Munos’s boss so
he wouldn’t get in trouble
Yeah, cuz he’s like not supposed to be
working on the case
She makes up a real
convoluted story
I I like couldn’t even
follow it
But, uh, she’s like doing him
a solid cuz he saved her life, right
So, okay
And then there’s there’s something
weird here
I guess I didn’t catch it,
but I think he gives her a ride home on
his motorcycle
Even though her car was at the motel
Maybe she was too shaken up to drive
I
don’t know
I guess that makes sense
But it’s also
funny because there’s Well, there’s a
scene later where she’s like, he says
something about the motorcycle and she
like says she doesn’t mind
I’m like,
wait, you already had a scene earlier
where she was riding on it
Like, I
didn’t even catch that
But it
definitely seems like they’re setting up
a romance with these two
And
totally, I you’ll see later on
I’m
like, “Yeah, I knew it
” Um, but that’s
cute because I thought he was going to
be more of a like love triangle with
Perry
Like I thought it’d be like I
don’t know
I just saw them as having a
little bit of chemistry, too
So,
yeah
Interesting there
It is a little interesting
So, we get the sisters by the pool
This
is I didn’t make a note about this, but
I almost was wondering if this was
actually Drew in this scene because you
never get a closeup of her
It’s very
far away
And when she gets out of the
pool, they shoot her from like the like
ankles, you know, like
And it’s just
strange
Like there’s no close-up of
her
But anyway,
that’s weird
So, we get like 3 seconds of at
least TR’s voice and she tells Joy that
she’s going to go meet the homeless girl
um that she’s like the character in
Eric’s script that she’s going to play
is based on
And then she quickly pieces
out because Scott arrives and she says,
“That guy gives me the creeps
” He
should be feeling more than that
I like how she says it like loud
right in front of him
He did like assault you in the first
episode
Yes, he did
Um and of course he’s there
to ask Joy to remove the hex off of him
He literally says, “I want you to take
your hex off me, you witch
” Like how
would he know that
But this is the best part is that like
his urologist, his doctor
apparently told him that the only
explanation for his problem of male
sexual inac inadequacy is a hex
That’s some science right there
That’s
some medical science
Have you had any women recently who
might who you might have upset
This is
who might be a little witchy
They like crystals and astrology
That’s the only explanation I have
Um,
oh my god
So, the the tree
are here, which are Jade’s parents, and
they’re suddenly going to go home, and
they’re totally fine with her not
marrying that guy, and there’s like no
resolution there whatsoever
Maybe there was a hex on them, too
Ah,
maybe
Good job, Joy
And then there’s
this really upsetting, creepy scene
where they’re saying goodbye to her and
the stepdad is like slowly looming in
menacingly towards her for a kiss
goodbye
It goes on forever until she
like turns and runs away
It is so
gross,
right
So weird
It’s creepy and is weird because no time
before that do we have any I guess we
know he’s an [  ] Well, I mean, she does when they have that scene where she’s like trying to blackmail him, she says like, “I’ll tell everybody and she never says what ” So, I’m like, “Oh, he abused her her whole life ” Or it’s awful I hate it Let’s move on to something nicer We get more shots of this huge property There’s like a whole ass lagoon like gazebo I guess you’d call that area They’ve never shown this It’s Can we believe it’s on the same property Like do they show enough to make it look like it is Yeah, I think so because the entryway to the house is very specific and when um like there’s some tracking shots It looks like it’s all the same place in my opinion So Perry and Jade are sitting out in this gazebo and they have a talk about the fake lawyer dude and Jade tells her she doesn’t have to move out anymore And for some reason she’s suddenly like in a really good mood Like this is the best mood we’ve seen Jade in for this entire show Even though the last scene is her running away in slow motion to again this again This not really sensical dicho or not dichotomy justosition Oh my god So weird But like I’m like why didn’t Jade tell Perry about the shooting I don’t know Like she doesn’t even mention it There might be something in the newspaper related to my case and that’s like all she tells her, right She doesn’t like I don’t know give you any give her any more information Ah maybe she I don’t know Maybe she thinks Perry will be jealous that Munoz showed up Just kidding So then we get this scene where um Lindsay is on the beach where the homeless are with Eric and the kids there are sharing their stories with Lindsay and Eric Um and of course Joy shows up because of course she does Before we get into what happens in this scene, Drew’s hair here is like very it’s first of all, it’s the very yellowy blonde it’s been the whole episode, but it’s more like sllicked back and straight and gelled and it was giving me big time Tori Spelling mid9s vibes And Tori has admitted to like copying Drew style in the mid ‘9s So, I have to wonder if there’s an inspiration here There’s like that little flip at the bottom which I feel like really feels like Tori spelling Okay, so Lindsay is telling Joy about the homeless girl And let’s listen to this because Joy is such a [  ]
Hi
I’m sort of busy right now
So, is that the girl you’re going to be
playing in Eric’s movie
That’s Annie
Her mother threw out when
she was 12 years old
The pimp got her
hooked on heroin and turned her on the
streets, and now she’s 17 and dying of
AIDS
You’re going to play a teenage runaway
addicted to drugs, homeless hooker with
AIDS in Eric’s movie
What an attractive screen debut for you
Also, I just had this like lightning
bolt moment of um realization
That’s
like what that Sublime song is about
Annie’s 12 years old
just gonna be a
horror the wrong way,
right
Yeah,
I know you, Bradley Null
You’re
watching 2000 Malibu
That’s so funny
Okay, so then um Lindsay is saying like
this movie she thinks it’s going to be
like the best thing that’s ever happened
to her and she knows about Joy
pretending to be an alcoholic to go to
these AA meetings with Jessica
Like
she’s totally calling her out
So,
finally
Yes, finally
So, I’m helping Jessica with her
recovery
No, you’re using a serious illness like
alcoholism to kiss her butt, and I think
it’s pathetic, and it’s never going to
work because she doesn’t like me, and
I’m not right for the part anyway
But then, yeah, Joy goes on to say that
she’s like going to get rid of Jessica
Like,
yeah, it’s going to now be the like the
Lindsay rule show or some [  ] Yeah, she is Once again, she there’s no like limit that she won’t go Like what is she talking about Killing her Like what the hell Oh, I just realized the making her drink again Final scene She’s going to make her drink again I do like how Drew’s voice is just like, I’m so fed up with you You know, you can really hear it It’s so good So Munos and Jade take a walk And again, I’m like I’m having whiplash Like all of a sudden, she’s like super hostile to him and she’s accusing him of working for her parents out of nowhere It makes no sense I do like his response He says, “I’m not for sale I’m not a trick And I’m not working for your parents ” And then, of course, just like every other dude on the show, he says like, “You can trust me I’m not going to hurt you ” The same old lines that they’re all saying How can that that not just be like a broken record at that point like guys just saying trust me I know we like Muno, but we don’t know where this would have gone I It’s just such an odd scene that comes out of nowhere and doesn’t go anywhere It’s also seems weird like Jade’s outfit in that scene is like Yeah, I noticed it too Almost like nude dress with like gold chain straps Like I’m like what is this You can take the sex worker out of the sex, but you I something like that Something like that So then we see Joy go to a place called Eva’s Psychic Supplies cuz of course, right Right on the nose So Joy walks in Um she tells her about the love spell she’s cast on Scott and she says it’s this selfish jerk who might be her soulmate I do kind of love that she’s like really into him even though, you know, she’s she’s not very nice to him They don’t have a good friendship, but like part of her just wants him She wants begging for her like a dog because she’s so cool You’re so cool So, the psychic Eva is just scandalized by the fact that Joy used a voodoo spell to harm him And I love her response to this Yes, you worked on a spell to harm him Well, I was just fooling around I didn’t think it would really work Amateurs I just really like Pepper It’s so dumb It’s so good It’s so good And um and of course she says like Joy has released the power of evil and is in grave danger And then she says, “No one escapes their karmic dues ” And like Joy Joy does look scared Oh yeah, she she knows this is real, right [Music] Another small editor’s note here The psychic is played by an actress named Ivonne D Carlo, who was the original Lily Monster from the TV show The Monsters from the 1960s Pretty cool All right, so we’ve got a little bit of girl talk in Jade’s room Um, Jade is trying to loan some lingerie to Perry because I think she’s going to go on she’s going to go to Carmel, meet up with Roger Lindsay’s hair in this scene is already totally different The Tory Spelling straightness is gone and there’s like curls back in her hair, but it’s supposed to be the same day, so that cracked me up Um, and then we get this very long, very heavy-handed PSA about safe sex, which is like, it’s great that they’re doing that, but it’s so like you cannot help but roll your eyes at some of these lines And it’s so long Like, we can’t play the whole thing We’ll just get some of the best parts in here So, what do you use I’ve always used condoms Whether you sleep with Eric or not, you know, I don’t know if that’s right, but if you decide to, you have to protect yourself Yeah, but Eric is I mean, he looks so healthy I mean, I know that he doesn’t have AIDS It doesn’t matter Even if he’s been tested, there’s a six-month latency period where the virus doesn’t show up You have to take responsibility for yourself So, like after school special, you think it’s going to be like, “Okay, that’s enough ” And then it’s like, you know, a guy really respects a girl who’s prepared And I love that Like but he’ll have one I don’t need to worry about it But he looks so healthy It’s Yeah, it’s kind of great, but also heavy-handed and kind of funny Yeah, I do kind of love this in just position to Drew’s female condom commercial that she did four years later, though, where she’s like, “You better protect yourself, girl This is simple Communication is the key What did you do to protect yourself today ” The female condom some fatal disease did fall upon you How simple all of a sudden it would be to have protected yourself I like that Jade really got through to her and now she’s just What did you do to protect yourself So, even though Drew looks totally different than earlier, it’s supposed to be the same day She looks so lovely Yeah, I really like this outfit I would totally wear this top And yes, she’s beautiful There’s some really good close-ups in this scene that I looked of her When there’s that serious conversation happening about safe sex, there are some beautiful shots of Drew So, while you’re getting your safe sex information, you’re getting some like gorgeous imagery There you go All right So, Munos is back at the house He says his guys have found Allison, the crazy ex, quote unquote And Allison said she’d been out of town at her sister, so they can’t do anything unless she makes another move And Perry’s super pissed about all this And Roger’s still MIA, by the way They can’t find him anymore Of course he is And on Munos’s way out, Jade runs out and apologizes to him and they set up a date And I was right There’s a little little something going on with these two I got to say, she feels like very much like the adult of the series, right How old do you think she was Because I looked it up and I was like, “Oh my god ” Younger or older than you think younger reput, right You just tell me what you think You’re right on She comes I mean like she comes off like she could be over 40 or like so much younger than me, right You know, and like she’s just that’s not the way that her character feels It’s just kind of No, I mean I’m just I’m guessing not like Okay If I was guessing like how old the character is supposed to be, I might say like in her 40s So, we’re back on the beach at the homeless encampment and it’s the same day Lindsay’s wearing the same outfit So, I’m like, “Okay, she must have just taken a lunch break She went up back to the house to find out about condoms Now, she’s back down there ” But she also curled her hair even more So, this is the third time this day that her hair has changed Cracked me up That is really funny Like, there was no like continuity Like, no, not at all So, after hearing the stories um that all these homeless kids were um telling about their lives, um Eric is like kind of like getting really romantic and saying he doesn’t want to waste any time He’s really realizing how short life is and he doesn’t want to miss out on any love and immediately tells her he loves her and she reciprocates, which is really sweet, but it’s also like it this one feels more earned at least I’m like, “Yeah, they’ve been having Yeah, I I’ll let them have their love ” Or maybe it’s just Drew so good at acting in love I love you, Erica I don’t I don’t know Um, this is crazy I love you, too I’m totally nuts about you Just kiss me Just kiss me Just kiss me And then heavy make out Heavy make out And it it goes on for like a while These two get the smooches in And then they make plans to spend the night together The next night, of course, she says, “After Joy falls asleep, I’ll come over ” But they’re basically like planning to be together like Yeah If this was um Why can’t I think of what show Wait, we’re just talking about Save by the Bell before because it comes up in my life a lot All right, so M we’re getting towards the end, guys This is like the big finale So Munos comes over and brings a tape to the house for Jade He found it in the the van of that guy that he shot And I’m like, this is how police handle evidence, right Like he hasn’t even listened to it himself He brings it over for her to listen When they’re a one maybe two person police department, apparently he’s just like, “Jay’s my partner now Jay, you got to tell me what’s on this tape So, she hears on the tape her lawyer friend setting her up for the murder, like framing her, and it feels like she recognizes the other voice in this conversation, but I could not I even literally held the speaker up to my ear and I’m like, it’s just some anonymous dude as far as I can tell And they also like I feel like Munoz asks her if she recognizes it and maybe they don’t even have her say or they end it on like a cliffhanger of her looking like like really surprised Yeah, totally Um All right So now there’s this huge storm Like it’s just like wild storm outside and Joy is like saying she’s about to go out which is kind of funny Um Lindsay is being kind of snippy with her Um, but she says that she’s got to go out because she needs to secure Lindsay’s future You’re going out in this weather When I come back, I’ll have secured your career forever Then you’ll know who really is on your side Joy, please Please, Joy, please And Joy is a little suspicious when Lindsay said she’s not going anywhere She’s just taking a shower, which like I don’t know why you would be suspicious of that, but okay And she goes and snoops through Lindsay’s purse, which I noticed has a daisy print on it again The daisy so early in Drew’s Daisy Times It’s so fun And she finds condoms When does she have time to go get those So Lindsay catches her and of course a fight ensues Of course it does You’re sleeping with him, aren’t you You didn’t hear a word I said You’re going through my stuff Give me those No, Lindsay He’s going to hurt you You don’t understand We’re in love and it’s none of your business anyway This is my business I’m your sister Yeah, but you’re not my keeper This is ridiculous I was actually going to wait until you fell asleep to sneak out afterwards Joy, I love you, but you can’t manipulate me anymore Yeah, girl Ooh, I love thunder in the background The thunder crash So, she’s like, you can’t anymore I also noticed she’s wearing her necklace even in this scene where she’s like in a towel I think she also wears it in the pool, right I’m not going to scroll back up So, she never took it off probably I swear this is like a Jamie Walters necklace and she would not take it off the whole time they were together That is I’m calling it now One point we’re going to find out that’s true Yeah, probably So Joy is telling Lindsay that she thinks there’s an evil curse on her and Lindsay’s reply is like, “You’re really becoming pathetic ” And just like leaves But of course, like Joy hasn’t been telling her about all the crazy [  ]
she’s been involved in
So like
that’s true
She has no idea
Yeah,
exactly
So, Joy calls Jessica Raleigh sweet and
I was like, I love how this famous movie
star is just staying under her real name
and anybody can go to her room, call it,
right
And she invites her to an AA meeting
because, oh, Jessica’s been eating a
bunch of chips and ice cream, so
trouble
Uh, and then while she’s
inviting her, she’s like packing a full
bottle of liquor
So, I think your
theory is right
And I even like wrote it while I
was watching like, “Oh, she’s probably
get her drunk and blackmail her to give
Lindsay the job back or the whole case
or to get make her look so bad or make
you go back to rehab or whatever it is
to make her fall off the wagon
Um, all right
So, then we get one of
the like most dramatic and kind of
amazing
amazing
scenes, which is
the the storm is just getting crazier
Joyy’s like trying to close the doors,
but they’re like flying open
She like
can’t control them
And then she gets
struck by lightning
Like it’s not even super clear
It’s
like the lightning flashes and then you
just see her fall to the ground
But Lindsay like runs in to help her
And this is it
This is our wrap on Drew
for the entire series
Let’s
hear her last lines in 2000 Malibu Road
Are you okay
That’s it
Wrap on true
I mean, you even hear the like lightning
crash back before that
So, it’s like,
how did Lindsay know
Either way, rap on Drew
Oh, I’m sort of
sad
I’m not going to lie
It was fun to
see her in all these different like
scenarios and outfits and stuff
All right
We got to also wrap up the
entire series on everybody
So, the
final scene, Perry is working late in
her office and I’m like, why is she
always working in the dark with a small
little desk lamp
And she calls Roger’s room in Carmel and
leaves a message with her flight arrival
time
And as she’s leaving her office,
going to the parking garage, I think
she’s being followed and uhoh, it’s a
guy in a black leather jacket
It’s the
evil Roger
It’s sucks
Yeah, it sucks
And she like thinks he’s joking at
first
and then pretty quickly he tells her,
“I’m not Roger
” And attacks her
And so I’m like, he probably did
I
think I said it earlier, but he probably
did attack and rape Allison
I think
that’s what we’re supposed to take away
from it
But also like yeah, split personality
Like what is it
Because he seemed to
maybe really believe that he didn’t do
it, but also he’s a sch smoozer
So who
knows
We won’t know the end
I know that’s the end of the entire
series is this attack
It’s just awful
It’s like not how you want this show to
end, but it’s how it did at least in the
US
So okay, let’s talk about this
weirdness
and we have to mention it, but I’m also
like there’s a huge grain of salt with
all of this for me because I cannot
track down like legitimate information
So on Wikipedia
there is a rumored international extra
ending for the show and the only source
that they list is this book about
melodramatic miniseries
And there’s a
tiny tiny little paragraph in that book
I went and looked it up and it says, you
know, it aired in the US as a six
episode pilot for like a continual show
and it ended with a cliffhanger which
was resolved by a voiceover epilogue
added in for overseas audiences
Okay,
so I cannot find that anywhere
Like all
we can go off of is what is in
uh Wikipedia, which I’m like, well, who
came up with this because there’s a lot
of details here,
right
So, I think I’m just kind of
assuming that this is like a
transcription of the narration, but
again, we don’t know and we might we
might never know
I mean,
so I’m going to briefly summarize it
There’s a lot of details if you want to
go to the Wikipedia, but basically it
says that when it was screened overseas,
so I’m like, that’s not even specific as
to what country it was, right
Um, there
was extra scenes where the stepdad’s men
shoot the fake lawyer guy, make it look
like a suicide, and have a confession
that he did the murder that Jade was
accused of, which like I could see that
And that like there’s another scene
where Munoz breaks the news to Jade that
all the charges have been dropped
And
then so like,
who knows
And then supposedly now we
get that closing narration that goes
over like montage of archive footage
wrapping up uh like resolutions for all
the characters
Apparently it says here’s just like a
couple lines
So Jade married Munoz and
had a child
That’s why I
looked up her age, by the way
I was
like have a child
I thought she was in
her 40s
Not that I, you know, didn’t
have a baby in my 40s, but in the It was
the ‘9s, guys
That wasn’t so normal
It’s true
So, then it says Joyce
survived being struck by lightning and
went back to Chicago to teach astrology
at a local college
Oh, Chicago is
Oh, is that where they’re from
I don’t know
Remember we were talking
about it
I think is Chicago considered the
Midwest
I’m going to Google this
probably
I think
but I thought they were from like a
small town
H maybe they never even say
it’s considered the Midwest, but you
know, but I don’t know
Um, and then
Lindsay became a world famous actress,
of course
All right, that was the plan all along
And Harry, this is so sad
Harry had a
breakdown after her rape and ended up
institutionalized
Oh my god
Like whether this is real or someone
just made it up for Wikipedia
Whoever
came up with this, it’s this is [ __ ]
This is so not cool
No matter what, whether it’s a fake
thing or the person who wrote it
And I’m like, is that supposed
to be karma for how she treated the
psycho ex on the stand
I mean, I’m sad that there aren’t like
that any of the like fake scenes that
were in the finale weren’t Drew, you
know
Cuz then I’d be like, we have to track
it down
I would love to know like I mean it is
possible it aired once, let’s say, in
the UK and no one recorded it and
digitized it
Of course, like we talked
about that before
This this show is
very ephemeral in the way that like it
never had officially come out on any
kind of release
I’m thinking about the fact like we
might never see a higher quality
version
I know it’s awful
That’s so weird
I should say never
Who
knows what’ll happen with the future of
the DM when we get
but I would love love love to know if
anyone out there like says, “Oh yeah, I
live overseas and I remember right it
airing this way
” Like I would love
that
But we’ll see
reach out to us if
you if you are that person
How do you
drew pottage Gmail
I was just gonna say that like if
you’re listening
Um all right
So the
cancellation of the show was already in
the news by the end of September
So
aired beginning of September like on the
9th and then by the end you have a thing
that was printed in September 28th that
says um pretty similar to what we said
Lisa Hartman Black was quoted as saying
in the first episode of this of this
series
Um,
so Schumacher said that Malibu Road
would have been renewed for mid-season
except Aaron Spelling and CBS couldn’t
come to a license fee agreement
So too
expensive
It says it was an it was
awkward for him
It was a very expensive
show to produce
A reported 1
2 million
an hour, which I have no idea like how
that compares, right
But also the network wanted to keep
Aaron Spelling’s Melro’s place, which
would have put his shows competing
against himself
So,
it’s just
there we go
It wasn’t that the storyline wasn’t like
Jeff’s kiss
Definitely wasn’t that
It is interesting that that thing that
talks about it says like ran as a six
episode pilot
That’s an interesting way
to think of it
I think that makes sense
though because it’s like this little
midseason, you know, mini
thing that they did and then they’re
hoping that get picked up for fall for a
real season cuz back then,
you know, it was like 22 23 episodes a
season, right
So, this is kind of unusual that it’s
only it’s six, but it really only aired
on four different nights
Like, that’s
very small
It is very small
And that’s it, guys
We are leaving the
uh what’s it called
Beach water
We’re exiting the beach beach water
The tide is receding
I had so much fun doing this
Like,
yeah, this was a this was a fun series
It was fun because it was so outrageous,
but it was also fun because it it’s like
such a lesser familiar part of Drew’s
filmography for both of us
So, we’re
like revisiting something we’ve barely
touched on before
So, I really liked
being able to do that
I like having
that excuse to like go do that
It’s also kind of funny to think of us
like dedicating three episodes when like
movies only get one
Although we did
have a two-parter
We had a couple
two-parters, but either way, like it’s
funny, but it’s it’s the amount of
content
We really went into it
We hope you guys had fun
And it was our summer break
Yeah, our summer break
And also, we’re
filming this early, so that’s one reason
why the top of the show is a little
light
But either way,
cuz I’m literally going to the beach
next week
You’re going to go in the beach water
I consider I considered like taping from
the ocean so we could get all that
background sound like we have in the
show, but I decided against it
I was going to say earlier there was one
clip I was like, “Oh my god, the ocean’s
so loud
Like genuinely
But this was a lot of fun
So,
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I’m an Ashley
And hello
Feels like it’s been a long time
I I kind of was like, wait, have
we really not recorded in like three
weeks
Like
that’s what happens when we do one super
early for once in our lives
So this is weird
Like it’s
probably almost the longest we’ve spent
Oh, Nick not recording something
away from each other
I was going to say that and I’m like, is
that dramatic
All right
So, I mean, let me talk about
last episode because of course I have
the like update of all updates
So, if you guys don’t know, we were
covering Drew’s 1992 television series
2000 Malibu Road
We did it um as like
our summer series
It was a summer TV
series
We thought it’d be fun
We did
all six episodes over the course of
three of our episodes
And throughout
the entire thing, I was like, I got to
find this house
I got to find this house
Number one, you know, I love
filming locations and figuring them out
Number two, you know, I’m like the
freaking dog with the bone
When I like
want to find something out, I like
research it
to death
To death
But I kept going, Ashley, it doesn’t
matter
Like, you’re not
having any luck
Like, let it go
No one cares
No one
watched this show, but I care
So, literally our last episode comes
out, you know, our last Drew’s Day
And
I was like, h I just I just want to look
again because I had been in Malibu,
right
Like before um that episode came
out, but after we had recorded it,
I literally drove down PCH
in Malibu
And I was looking around and
I was like, I bet I could do this with
Aerial Views
Like, I bet I could find
it by looking at Google Maps aerial
views
And so that’s what I did
And I
was looking specifically for the pool
because the pool is quite unusually
shaped
I’m like going going going
I mean I
look through like miles and then I see
one
I was like, “Oh, like it’s not
perfect, but this like it almost looks
right
Like it’s it’s got the same weird
shape, but it’s not identical
” I’m
like, “But it’s set back from the house
the same way
” I sent you like a
screenshot of the map
And I was like, I cannot see
you
you had gotten so used to looking at
these blurry overhead images and I was
like I don’t know what you’re talking
about and then you started sending more
and more and I was like
yeah because I was so excited
I mean
it’s funny because I should have looked
at the house that is on this property
and I should have gone that’s not it
because it’s 100% not the house but my
instinct and I listened to it I was like
maybe they rebuilt the house and so I
went down a huge rabbit hole
I will not
get into every step of what I did
The
house is currently for sale, which is so
funny
Um, but this house was built like
a decade ago,
and the one that was there previously
was the house from 2000 Malibu Road
And
so it was located, if anyone cares, at
24834
Pacific Coast Highway
It’s currently
for sale for $36
That puts
Casey from Mad Love’s House to shame
That was only like 4 million
I
was like, I don’t remember the price,
but I feel like this is like the amount
of money where it’s like, huh
What are we doing
It’s like a
freaking compound now,
right
Houses in Los Angeles are like
minimum like a million and a half now
Like almost no matter where you are,
just for no Yeah
Any little thing
So, this was wild
deeply satisfying to
like I found like a a random historical
photo of the h the previous house like
on the Malibu
Historical Society
And I was like
matching that
I was freaking
out cuz I was like, “Oh my god, this is
absolutely it
” Even the um lawn chairs
or not lawn chairs um patio furniture
from the show is from the same set as
what was there when they took that
photo
Photographed it
So, I I texted
our friend Lindsay of I am not
astalker
com
and everything palmspr
com and I was
like, “Lindsay, I found the house
” Cuz
I had told her I was looking, but she
just didn’t have the bandwidth to help
me at that time
And she’s like, “Oh my god, I’m so
stupid
I have a post on this house
It was used in the original very first
season of The Bachelor as the house
where the Bachelor lived
“
Oh my god
So then I got to see her post
which we will link to and it had you
know she had done it a long time ago so
it had like the aerial views at the time
so she had all kinds of images I could
look at and she had screenshots from the
Bachelor
I went and found it to like
watch it online for free anyway and took
more
It was so exciting for me
I’m
like I don’t know what it is about my
brain that like flips out with nerdom
when I see this stuff but like
everything I could match was just like
yes oh my god I found it this is right
this is right like so exciting cuz there
are so many like unique features and
then you zoom in on the thing that is
like unique from the top and the idea
that they rebuilt it like I’m I’m almost
like did they rebuild it because after
the Bachelor people kept trying to like
go and visit the house from the Bachelor
Maybe I think whoever built it in its
current state is just like out of
control extravagant
Like if you saw
what it looked like now, you’d be like,
“Come on, who needs this
“
But yeah, it looks completely different
The old house looked really great
Like
I didn’t really think it I was like,
“Oh, it’s kind of like plain, but there
are things about it that actually like
look kind of cool
” Like
like the archway at the entrance
Yeah,
there’s a lot of neat things about it
Um I don’t know when it was originally
built
I don’t think I was able to find
that, but we can at least say 80s, you
know, maybe
or earlier
I I would almost guess like
60s
Yeah, it could be
So, that is the
finale of 2000 Malibu Road
That’s putting maybe putting like the
nail in that coffin
I don’t know
I
don’t know if we should say it’s dead
I
mean, it is dead, but
I don’t know if anyone’s ever talked
about that show more than us, to be
honest
When you search that show on
Google, a lot of the results lead back
to us
Well, I guess including our website that
has 2000 Malibut Road memorabilia
For a long time on IMDb, the like cover
image was like a scan of one of our ads
with our watermark and everything
So,
I love that
I love that
I love that we
like thought to do watermarks because
now it’s like, oh my god, it still leads
to us
We’re still here
People love to steal our [  ] let me tell you And we’re still here So, if somebody cared enough to to see that Anyways, um longevity, it’s a thing Um okay, I feel like we haven’t had this segment in a while because Drew’s show hasn’t been on So, uh let’s talk about what Drew proclaimed her love for recently I love love It has been a while since we have had a list of Drew loves, but u there’s a reason we got an update this time around Let’s just go through the list first Drew Les a butter churn of course Of course she does Frank Lloyd Wright A Q& A, of course And going places with her friends Absolutely Um, that’s okay So, we have a little one Um, guys, the show is coming back soon So, Oh my gosh Drew loves we’ll start to get um meaty again just the way we like we love talking about the meat of the sandwich We also this week for the first time in forever have a Druism You know those cool little isms that we do Both of these are coming from the same source and we’ll tell you guys about that in a minute But I’ll just set this up Okay, this is Drew talking about how in society these days, people are waiting for people to make mistakes so they can jump on them because it is insane that we just take each other down and we’re looking for it and we’re waiting for it and it’s like a dog in a table waiting for that piece of food to fall and then it’s like all over the [  ] lenolium floor
because yes, that’s thing
It’s so good
I love it so much
I’m so happy we have
that audio
Watching her do that like hammy like
angry Drew is the best
I do love Angry Drew
Why do I love it
so much
Yes, we talk about hate
We love Drew when she hates things
More Drew Love soon
Um, let’s talk about what’s going
on recently cuz news is popping up,
guys
Here we go with the news,
everybody
So, as you said, the Drew
Barrymore Show is coming back as we
know
Um, but the episodes are going to start
filming very soon
So the in studio
audience, all that, it starts on
September 3rd
So I think the first few
shows are already sold out, but if you
guys are going to be in New York, go to
the website and you can sign up for
tickets and then come back and tell us
about it
And I should I should make a trip
out there
Yes, you should
I’ve got some new friends out there
because uh
my New Yorker interns finally
I was just in Palm
Springs last week
So, now let’s talk about the
source of some of these things I’ve been
talking about was this awesome thing
that just like randomly came out and was
so cool
So, Bill Maher has a
podcast called Club Random and we got
this random appearance by Drew
Talk about random
2 hours and 15 minutes long and
like seemingly unedited
like like I
thought it was like pretty much
just all out there
Um there was nothing
wild about it, but it was so fun to see
Drew like loose like this
Very loose
I was talking to our friend
Ranatada of Drew Barrymore Brazil about
this and I was saying the way Drew is in
this appearance or interview how she’s
loose like you said or a little bit less
showy I guess I would say
feels very similar to me to when we last
saw her and when the cameras turned off
and she started talking to us I was like
that’s the that’s the girl the version
of her that we were getting
is the same version that was in this
interview
like that like looks at you and is like
putting their attention on you
and dropping the fbomb nonstop
So I this comparison you
made
Yeah
It weirdly gave me like weird
reminiscence is that a word of her
appearances on Letterman and like I
don’t I can’t really say why but I think
you’re right
I was feeling
like this really fun, playful sort of
thing that was happening that like I
don’t know Bill Maher well, but like I
don’t think this is his normal vibe
Like I don’t
Yeah, I thought he was like sort of
problematic
I don’t know that much
about him either
But I was like, “Oh,
is this going to be like a problem that
she went on here, but yeah,
people loved it
“
People loved it
I agree that it was it
felt Letterman and I think it was maybe
like the flirtiness that was between
them
There were so many people in the
comments
made a lot of sense
that seemed like people were like this
is in Bill like we have never seen and
like she’s bringing this out to him and
like all this like interesting stuff and
there was playfulness that but that just
felt like Drew
and so she you know she’s flirty that’s
how she is
It could also be that he’s like
sort of this crotchety old man normally
but when he’s talking to Drew it’s like
whoa where did this come from
And he seemed surprised by her too in in
a really pleasant way
So it’s sweet
So, we’ll get into some of the details
Um, she was wearing a Flower Films
t-shirt that was like super cute,
simple
Did it have like different
colored versions
of like the logo
I want one real bad
Who can we ask
If
you’re out there listening and you have
some power
Who could we ask
Films archival stuff
Send them our way
Anyways, uh, we talked about the potty
mouth
It’s so fun
I always love when Drew was
like, “Fuck, [  ] fuck ” like we’re not because that’s how she talks normally in real life, right She just is like plays it clean on her show She’s got to date She has to Yeah And she can That’s the thing She’s like America’s sweetheart, you know And people also think she’s a sweetheart because she’s real when she can be I don’t know Some other fun details is Drew was drinking tea java, of course and and they kind of like really made it obvious that she was just drinking her tea java because it was kind of funny because I kept expecting at the beginning that she would point out that it wasn’t alcohol and of course there’s a bunch of people who just saw in the beginning I thought she didn’t drink anymore and then there were other people who were like did you even watch the full thing you can freaking see the bottle of tea and she’s refilling it throughout the interview right and I guess if they’re just listening to well I guess if they’re listening to it they wouldn’t even think about it yeah that’s true but it’s Like it’s it’s sweet because we know that like that is her drink of choice and she’s got it Like they’re they’re not showing the label, I don’t think But we know it’s the Oh, I saw the label Oh, you did She might even say it She might even actually say something about the tea Yeah, that’s true Or like something about I don’t know being made of tea cuz you drink so much of it I don’t know Something like that Am I making that up I don’t know She’s definitely said that at some point All right So, I’m going to let you take like one of the coolest details randomly amazingly cool details This very much feels in the same wheelhouse or the same like space as me freaking out over the 2000 Malibu Roadhouse But um okay, so the interview starts and there’s like this weird implication that they are very near where Drew had lived when her house the house that burnt down in 2001 So the house she lived on on Cherokee for a couple years prior to that and he talks about when the house burned down He had only lived there for two weeks right next door and I did like verify where his house is matches right next door to that property There’s a part where they discuss the fire so I thought it’d be fun to kind of listen to that I will always blame myself for that fire I’ll always be like, I did something wrong You know, I’m like a guilty person by nature Everything is my fault Well, sure You wanted to get out of the marriage, so you burned the house down I think we all we all if only it was that easy I guess I found it interesting because we were discussing it so many times recently and like how did the fire get started and like of course she blames herself for it I mean that’s her nature I understand that it’s also my nature to like feel guilty for things that impacted me but I had nothing no control over And then I was like I’m sorry what And I like rewind it They are recording the space they are recording in is on Drew’s old property and it was the yoga studio that she apparently never really used They’re at her property The part that didn’t burn down like apparently he owns that and now he records out of it And it’s like this very specific it has this like special crooked door like slanted door It’s shown in um InStyle magazine when they did the feature on her house in 99 And we will share these pictures on the episode page cuz it’s really cool to like see it And they’re talking about the tiki bar that she built that’s like on basically on top of this building and how it’s still there And apparently there’s like a screening room somewhere over here that’s still there I was like I was it was crazy to me how casual they were being about it I’m like, “What ” burned down I guess because they knew, you know, like they knew that that maybe maybe before they started recording there was like moments of her like, “Oh my god, that’s so weird to be back here that we didn’t get to see because it was just like, oh yeah, we’re in my old like part of my old house ” And I’m like, “What ” I also like how she said something about like I could have just lived in one of the other things on this property Like why did I move away from the property Like I was like, “Oh, interesting ” And then we got another little detail about We knew that Drew’s dad lived near her house at one point Did we know like what house I guess maybe now we do I feel like I feel like I did think it was this one, but that might have just been like guesswork Um or maybe it’s talked about in something that’s at this timeline, but either way Drew tells a story about her dad and she like says he was staying like on the property She says right outside the window and she calls it in the treehouse So I’m like what is that Like and Bill was like oh the treehouse Like that’s a whole another thing we never saw anything about And I need to look at aerial view You probably can’t tell I already because it’s in a cuz it’s in a tree Let’s just play this clip where she tells this little anecdote about her dad Right outside this window My dad stayed on the property with me and it was like the only time I ever lived with him cuz he You made him stay outside the window Um well in this pathway here No, he stayed in the house next door Um the treehouse The treehouse He says that he said to me he was like um I said something about uh paranoia to him because he was extremely paranoid Um but he said it’s not paranoia, it’s paranoia And that happened at this house And I was like, “Thank you You finally put a word to how I feel in the world I have [  ]
paranoia
I love that
“
Me, too
We had just read the thing that was
written about like what the dad him and
his son like Drew’s dad and Drew’s like
half brother like selling the Barry
Morabilia
Barry Morbilia
Lots of good
puns there we haven’t really been using
to their full extent
But paranoia
I mean,
and that story is like vaguely familiar
to me, so I might need to like search if
she’s told it before, but I loved
hearing it either way
And he called it the treehouse
So
like we I think it just felt so like oh
my god, of course he lived in a house
that someone would call the treehouse
Of course she did at that time
Um, I just had to like say
I liked this sort of thing that they
cracked up for like a minute about where
Drew where Bill says he remembers Drew
saying the night of the fire or the
night before the fire like I’m cooking
dinner tonight
Then the house caught on fire and they
like talk about it and she’s like you
can’t like write this like you could
just like smash cut like me saying I’m
cooking dinner and then the house like
burning so they got a good laugh
The house burned down
the we’re Tom
Let’s get into
We did have some interesting talk about
Tom Green
very much backed up our kind of
intuitive thoughts about their
relationship where and we just I think
it was when we did movie line October
2003 or one of those one of the last
movie lines we did um it backed up kind
of our thoughts that Drew really didn’t
want to live out their entire romance in
the public eye but she was just trying
to like
go along with it and like that
eventually became too hard to do for
her
I mean, that makes total sense
And I
think that’s like basically what we
said
Because we know that Tom like basically
was like
starting to do almost like Instagram
before Instagram, like blogs on his
website that were like kind of dailyish,
and sometimes it would be a picture of
him and Drew
It was so fun for us
Like I’m sure we have some saved, right
We have we have them all saved
Okay, I love it
Oh my god, they were so
they were so sweet
Like oh my god
So
anyway, that makes sense that that was
hard for Drew because she says, “I’m
very open,
but I’m not bringing cameras into my
personal life until he was like fighting
cancer and that’s how we wanted to deal
with it
I can’t imagine
It didn’t sound like she blamed him
She
was just like,
“That’s not really what I wanted to do,
but I wanted to be like the cool
girlfriend and go along with it
I guess I’ll say one more thing
about this because I like how they kind
of get into relationship talk for a
second and she’s she’s talking about
like altering herself and changing for
Tom
and he’s like she like is going on this
whole spiel and then Bill’s like I don’t
like that you’re saying alter and
change
Yeah,
that’s where you need to like
rethink you’ll realize in 20 more years
that
just be you and you don’t need to change
for anyone
It was interesting the way she
kept phrasing that and it wasn’t even
just about with Tom
It was just in
general like
you do have I think what she was trying
to say was like you do need to make like
compromises in a relationship but she
did keep saying like change and alter
instead
Yeah, it was interesting
Yeah, I think compromise is the is the
um the term she was missing
But I liked
it because it was sort of I don’t know
He he it gave him a chance to say like
you don’t change anything like
Yeah
Oh, I did also like how he told
her the treasure doesn’t get hunted or
doesn’t do the hunting
That’s what it was
Yeah, that was She
was like, “Oh
“
Um, she also talks about how last year
she finally let go of the fear of
getting in trouble and the feeling that
she has to prove something to herself
that she has had those two feelings for
as long as she can remember up until
last year
Like I mean fear of
getting in trouble
When she said that I
like felt it cuz I was like there’s some
part of me that always thinks I’m doing
things wrong
No matter no
matter if like people look at it and say
great job
I’m like they don’t know I’m
actually failing deep down
They just
don’t know it’s deeply wrong
And so like Yeah
I was like oh [  ] And I think this is one of the multiple moments in the ep in the in the interview where she starts to cry She’s like, it’s interesting cuz I also have the fear of getting in trouble as far as like that to me is one of the worst feelings in the world, being in trouble Like, yeah, I’ve just always been a little goody goody my whole life True to some extent Yeah, I think we have that in common But I don’t walk around thinking everything I’m doing I’m going to get in trouble for is wrong Like that’s not part of my life like it is for you and Drew So, you guys can be best friends now and I guess I’ll just quietly exit We need the like yin and y so jealous of it They they absolutely need a balance That’s why you and I are like partyy Like I I don’t think if I had another of me that this would work Absolutely not You might be able to do with another of you, but like you already do all that See, like anyways, um there’s some more there’s a lot of great stuff in this So listen to it But um there’s this really kind of cool way he describes her life as like eras Uh I was excited because I feel like we do that so much like Yeah You know that Drew is this Drew and the phases and the Renaissances And it’s totally true And um and then what’s our favorite thing when people describe her light in some way So he describes her as a flashlight that won’t go out, which Perfect, perfect And then um I like how he kept like multiple times he was like, “You’re so sane ” And like I’m just like surprised how like real and open you are like he says sane multiple times and I think it’s because of the they have some talk about the institution which she keeps like describing it that way Oh maybe that is why or maybe he’s just talked to a lot of people who aren’t aren’t all there It seems like he really means like real like she’s present she’s Yeah, it was it’s great So listen to it like what no matter what you feel about this guy I don’t know really much about him at all I know he was at the Playboy Mansion a lot and I know he does real talk with Bill Maher Like I we’re not like, you know, he’s he’s he’s a famous for what he does, but he also like kind of says like that’s a different that’s me at work and this is me here and I’m a different person here It’s interesting And it is on YouTube if you guys want to watch the video version, which I do Like usually I’m a strictly audio podcast person, but of course when it’s Drew I’m going to watch the video And it’s great It’s really cool to see Looks beautiful She’s like has her feet up almost the whole time like she does when she’s comfy Of course, this flower film shirt that we talked about is so cute All right So, what else is new Oh, so I noticed the finally the new US Weekly contribution might be coming We’ve been waiting and waiting and waiting It’s supposed to be quarterly Um, it is not in the current issue, which is the August 25th, but they just published a new very small two question Dear Drew on their website So, I’m hopeful I’ve been checking it through the library app, which is so convenient and great So, I’ll keep checking I will of course report back Um, also our Instagram, Drew, we often will update with that kind of thing So, there’s been a lot of people reaching out to us because apparently if you search like Drew Magazine 2025 now us, it’s us and there’s like they never put out official word So, I’ve been having to like tell people like that’s gone and US Weekly is the mini form of it, but there’s like nothing new yet It’s sad to say, you know Gosh, weird I’m like, we can’t speak officially on behalf of them, but here’s what we know Literally from the inside, like, yeah, like we Yeah, that we So, of course, I got like multiple issues of us because when the magazine ended, I got nothing I think I got one clipping I got one clipping of Ross talking about his book with his husband and I was like that’s adorable because of course it’s got like a little illustration of Drew So I’m like I got one clipping Um all right so one of the other coolest things that basically kind of led to this episode, right A new tattoo Drew finally got her favorite string of numbers tattooed onto her I love it Hey Drewies, we are here to tell you about our website hosts, Positive Medium, and they sponsor the podcast We’ve been clients of theirs for over 10 years and we use them for all our website needs on the drusium Their services include customized web design, professional coding, search engine optimization and marketing, plus hosting, which has been huge for us for many years Plus, their incredible customer service has been one of our favorite features They’ve literally saved our site quite a few times, and they always help with minor troubleshooting in a matter of minutes So whether that’s coding issues or back-end questions, etc , we reach out, we get help immediately, which is just invaluable To our listeners, Positive Medium is offering 25% off any managed WordPress hosting plan using our promo code Drew That’s D R E W visit our friends over at positivemedium Thank you Okay, so she’s literally gotten four now since the time that we were So we recorded an episode about Drew’s tattoos It was one of our early ones We’re here 100 episodes later Which I freaking love And we’re like, we got to fill in the blanks on all her other tattoos Like I keep updating the description on the old episode to be like, “Note, Drew has since gotten more tattoos ” And I’m like, “He’s gotten two more She’s gotten three more She’s got four more ” Like, “Okay, at this point, we just need to do a new tattoo episode to be the full like holistically, you know, the source of the information, right It’s like we’re putting out the second edition of uh of the Drew tattoos The tattoo tattoo tut two two for her new tattoo You know what It’s all about tattoo So, we’ve got a little leadin audio that you pulled So, let’s let’s put this in here Drew talking about tattoos I’ve been getting tattoos at different times of my life ever since I was 13 years old I think I’ll be getting tattoos for the rest of my life Love that So, as of now, it’s August 2025 Ru has a total of 14 tattoos I’m just saying the year and the month cuz I feel like if you’re just like listening through the episodes, you might not know how old it is I don’t know Yeah, that’s true No, I think it’s smart to say that So, 14 tattoos We just have to note Drew’s last eight tattoos, which all all of which came after the butterfly, have been on her arms Which I find very interesting Is she just like no longer wants to show any other part of herself Like I mean, you know, like I for me, I think it’s because I want to look at them They’re for me Like when I think about that, I’m like I didn’t do this like for other people to like compliment me I did it cuz I want to see something pretty when I look down And so I don’t know if if Drew feels that way, but like I like the arm thing And I’m It’s kind of surprising to me because you can’t cover that up Like you’re an you’re an actress, you’re a public figure So like when she kept doing it, it’s like well I guess either you know what she actually said when she got the butterfly and she’s talking on Leno Um she says, “I like that all of my tattoos are in places that can be covered up ” And then it’s like after that she’s like, “Just kidding I want them all all over Next is the face No, I’m just kidding What a neck She’ll get like um the girl’s kisses like on her paw prints going up her uh her neck We’re just making predictions, guys They’re they’re they’re jokes They’re jokes So, just a brief background on or kind of explanation of how we’re doing to do this episode So, we covered the first 10 tattoos on the previous episode that Ashley mentioned, episode 12 Um, which we released in on October 30th of 2022 So, we’re like almost 3 years later Um, and we’ll play back and interject where we have new information So, like here and there we’ll be interjecting Um, and uh, yeah, enjoy this little flashback and at the end of this we’ll get into the last four tattoos that she’s gotten since we recorded that episode So, all new info Let’s do it [Music] I think that we might be ready for our weekly topic What do you think Yeah, I think we’re this time Let’s get there I need to take a breath Um All right Taking a deep breath Ready for this big topic So, um what did we decide on for a weekly topic And how happy are you to talk about this Oh, this is a great one So, we are going to talk about Drew’s tattoos today, which is really fun because it’s kind of a thing that we’ve always pointed out like when you can see them or like what how exciting it is when this one shows up Uh, you know, people who have been fans of Drew forever She’s had them for so long There’s a lot to talk about here So, we thought it’d be an easy one and then it ended up getting a lot more information than I expected once I was going through research So, awesome Great job on the research I’m looking forward to going through this cuz it is a lot of fun This is something about Drew that I feel like I’m just thinking about like Drew as a person with tattoos Like it’s almost a thing that you could find surprising about her as these days Like maybe kind of as at as at times she may have been seen as like a girl next door, you know, but she’s had this life that’s gone in waves and you know, levels of different personalities and different modes and I don’t know I feel like all of her tattoos say a lot about the time that she got them and I think that’s why this topic is so fun for us All of them feel like very true to her in a different way Definitely And like the range of them kind of fits with like the range of her sides of her personality Her multiaceted personalities So let’s get into it So just a couple real quick quotes about Drew and tattoos that we’ve gathered from over the years Um, one thing she said is that I really like tattoos and it’s an expression of how you feel and they’re there forever, which is kind of what you were just saying Um, another quote is, uh, for someone who’s afraid to be trapped and confined, sometimes I bust out and do things that are so permanent And she was referencing not just tattoos, but also marriage and that Yeah, absolutely Um, yeah, that I’m like I could see that coming from this more mature side of her She’s also many times, I’m sure you remember how many times she’s talked about how getting a tattoo is a pleasurable pain In Details 1997, she said that pain is like nothing else in the world And it’s so sexual, too You know, I mean, after it’s done, you just want to go and drive a car off a cliff or something I love that because I know how is something being so sexual make you want to drive off a cliff I don’t know But that feels like a Druism And I didn’t type this up, but she also said afterward like, “Okay, kids, don’t try this at home ” That’s great But also, I agree Um, having recently within the last couple of months gotten a new tattoo, like there’s just something about if you can tolerate it, it has a pleasurable thing about it I haven’t done it in so long, I don’t even remember So, I’ll take your word for it So, she has 10 tattoos in total, which I wouldn’t have been able to tell you off the cuff So, it’s kind of cool that it’s an even beautiful number like 10 Easy to remember now I love that she made it so it’s no longer a beautiful even number Thanks, Drew But it’s still even It’s still even So, just like back to like that was October 30th, 2022 that we released that We’re in August of 2025 It’s now 14 Are we ready to move on Let’s hear some more And she’s said just like we were just saying that there are reflections of times in her life, which is great So, let’s get into the details of the tattoos And we’re going to go in chronological order as best as we know when she got them So, we’re starting with the flowers on her hip It seemed that she was un kind of unclear as to when she got it, right Based on some of the stuff you looked at at first I mean, we all know that Drew isn’t the best at accurately saying how old she was when something happened, but I’m going to take her word for it on this first one Okay, cool So, she said her first, which is a bouquet of flowers on the front of her left hip, she had gotten around the age of 13 Um, which kind of makes sense When was she officially emancipated Yeah, it was right before she turned 15 So, but I also could see her walking into a tattoo shoe shop in LA and them just like, “Sure ” They’re like, “Oh, Drew Barrymore, cool And it was originally just of a rose when she got it at first I did not remember that until I was doing the research, but I found a couple places where she said like, “Oh, I have a tiny red rose ” Or said like it was originally just a rose So, I had forgotten that completely I have forgotten that But this next part, I do remember this So, she added daisies to it later and they don’t even totally look like daisies I have to say it’s kind of a weird tattoo And we’ll get into her feelings about it But she said that it was done by a big Australian meanie and she went in and she was like, “I want daisies ” And he said, “I don’t do daisies ” She said, “Okay ” So, she said, you know, it’s still there and it’s absolutely her least favorite of her tattoos, which is, you know, her first one I guess that’s okay She said she loves all her other ones, but she said, “The thing is, I wouldn’t have it removed because I just don’t believe in that You were there at one point in your life Just keep it, damn it ” When is that quote from when she says, “Just keep it, damn it ” Was that I believe that whole thing is also from details 1997 That was a good one for tattoo information So, in 1986, talking about this tattoo, she said it was shocking to her that she just really wanted one And when the guy said he wouldn’t do what she wanted, she was just like, “Okay, draw anything ” And then she said it’s not really that cute, but I like it It reminds me of how I would have taken anything, not necessarily the thing I wanted Now I have a great deal of patience It’s a great way of like silver lining looking at it [Music] I wasn’t going to say anything about this one, but it’s very interesting to think that this happened at 13 Where in the Little Girl Lost timeline did this happen Like pre AASAP Is this during one of the times she was released and it was like a reaction to that So, we’re talking about like the flowers like when would she have gotten like the rose or whatever it was at first She’s 13 like crazy to imagine maybe but like maybe not so crazy maybe exactly what I said someone was like oh Drew Barrymore cool like just like that and she’s in a big rebellious phase of her life 100% [Music] I feel like a lot of people who have tattoos like you said end up getting something not so great Yeah I have one that I wouldn’t mind not having Yeah I get that All right So, we know that her next one would be, I would say, one of her most famous ones, which is the cross that she has on her, let me think about this for a second, right ankle The first time that I could find visual proof of it was some candids, like an event that she attended in October 1990 So, we can assume around that time it it fits So, she has the cross It is wrapped in ivy and roses Like I said, it’s near her right ankle And she said a couple times that she designed it herself, which I also had forgotten that information Yeah, I had forgotten that, too So, she described it as a four angled cross because at the end of each end of the cross, there’s another cross basically like you kind of know what I mean Describing that well, but and then she said at that time she believed that religion and spirituality were everywhere you looked and everything was possible So, that was sort of like her inspiration She also felt that it was a sign when she first read the script for Poison Ivy that the title character Ivy has the same tattoo Although interestingly, of course, we have to kind of mention this, the tattoo that she had on her ankle was then covered, right And then she had a tattoo instead on her like kind of upper thigh So, I mean, of course, it makes sense to be like, “Oh my god, I also have a cross tattoo ” And this was in a time in her life when she was like, “I really need to get a roll ” that I really need to get an iconic role that’ll take people’s minds off of me as a child Um which was a successful a successful endeavor as far as Poison Ivy goes So, putting the the tattoo in a sexier spot as you might think I bet you’re right I bet that was part of it Plus, she had to like not have it at the beginning and she gets it in the movie So, that’s right That’s right She said that it symbolizes pain, death, life, and love Basically, she said like it’s my whole theme, crucifixes, which it’s not really a crucifix, it’s a cross But yes, if you remember, she was wearing cross necklaces all the time in like 1992 She was in 1991 Here’s a quote that she gave She said, “I’ve had it like a year No one sees it, just my friends Unless I want to be a badass and wear shorts and no socks or something ” It’s funny The one person who’s afraid of commitment has something that’s pretty lifelasting, but I can always cover it up if I want Yeah, I love that I love that Okay, so next um is probably out of these ones my favorite so far Oh, really So far out of the ones we’ve talked about I don’t know There’s something about it So, it’s the moon on her toe And you may be able to remember which toe it is Is it her right or left It’s her right I only know cuz I have a note Oh, you do So, by 1992, um, she and a friend, we don’t know who, got friendship tattoos, drew a crescent moon on her right big toe, said she was walking past the tattoo shop with a friend, and they just said, “Let’s get matching tattoos ” And they did it That’s all we know Um, and then thanks to Drew Bra Daisy for reminding us that, um, there was a talk show appearance where she talked about it, which was Kona in 1993, and they have it uploaded on their YouTube So, that’s really cool Yeah, I messaged them because like I said, it’s really hard to find some of these talk show appearances and I for some reason was visualizing and I it still might be her third 1995 David Letterman appearance where she’s wearing the green top I think she describes her tattoos in that one but you can’t find that online right now which is so frustrating But so I messaged Drewberry more Daisy and I was like, “Can you remember ” And they pointed out to me that Conan had a good description And I was like, “Cool Now we know ” Cuz I had the note of like her getting it with a friend, but I couldn’t find the source And that was the source So that was great I think one of the reasons I really love it is because you and I have talked about getting tattoos together for so long and we haven’t been able to land on anything Never have So maybe we just get like us like a moon and a sun and we call it a day Let’s just get the how do you Drew logo That would look cool Oh, perfect Just really big across our backs Oh, perfect It’s It’s Well, I was going to say it’s free advertising, but tattoos aren’t free, people It pays for itself I just have to interject We still have not This is three years later But we have we have decided what it’s going to be We have a plan I have to get it Um, side note, do we not insert the Conan audio Cuz we need to I guess not We can do it now Okay, it looks like we didn’t put the audio from the coding clip we were talking about So, I’m going to drop it in here, guys [Music] But, uh, is that with you wearing a tattoo I was looking through some of those earlier as part of my job I have one right on my ankle, actually What do you have on your ankle a a cross, a sort of fourth angled cross There’s a cross at each angle And um it has rose vines growing through it And um I put it on there about five years ago How many tattoos do you have Um I have five No, I’m not going to get But what kind are they You have a cross And what else Um yes, I have a cross on my ankle I have a blue moon on my toe And what makes you think of that What makes you think of like I’ve got to have a moon Well, what what made you think of it I don’t know I I I’m just saying what made you think, “Okay, I’ve got to have that because it’s a pretty permanent decision ” Actually, a friend of mine uh we were walking past a tattoo shop one day and went, “Let’s get matching tattoos And that’s how it happened Oh, cool And it’s still there, right So, they’re not those fake kind I get the fake kind a lot I have those, too Those are a lot of fun Um and then I have um cherubs growing growing I hope they’re not growing Um, along the base of my back All right Oh, yeah [Music] Let’s move on to her cherubs, which are two separate tattoos, both on her lower back The first one is on the right side and it’s a group of three cherubs that are holding a cross and the cross has her mother’s name Jade on it which is uh you know very interesting I think she probably got this we can guess around 1992 as well Well, she for sure had it by 1992 That seemed like a time in their relationship where they were the most close and then it like maybe never again were they close after that So, not sure what went on, but we can speculate all day about that I have, and this is like the stupidest Vegas memory that I was like, do I even mention this And I only found like one minute piece of evidence that I didn’t imagine this There was this show in the early 2000s called Crossing Over with John Edward Was like, do you remember this He’s like a medium I was obsessed with it for a while like I watched it all the time and Jade was on one time and like I said I couldn’t find any clips but I found like one like TV guide that mentioned it or something And I swear there’s something came up and obviously like you know whether you believe in his abilities or not it would have been very easy for him to get this information But he does like bring up that tattoo in the like you know he’s basically saying like I don’t even remember who he supposedly was communicating with on the other side but he brings up like I’m seeing a tattoo with your name or something along those lines And I don’t think they showed a picture, but of course I knew exactly what it was And yes, says like, “Oh, Drew has that tattoo or something like that ” But um that’s like the only relevant note I have on that tattoo There’s also a really wonderful photo of it Like super crisp clear photograph of it that was in what magazine Us from June 1992, I believe It’s black and white, but it’s a great photo It’s like stunning and it the tattoo looks so crisp there So yeah, like you thinking it was pretty soon before that makes sense Yeah, I think it was very new All right, why don’t you tell us about her other cherubs Okay, so she does have another cherub in the middle of her lower back holding a banner with the name James for ex-boyfriend Jamie Walters Um, and it was said that he had one of her name as well And then she said that if she had found out that he’d covered up his, she would also want to cover up hers but his name kind of like bled into a black bar after they broke up and you can’t read it at all So she’s quoted as saying, “You can’t even read it It’s so small and the colors have sort of bled into each other It almost scares me It sort of disappeared Isn’t that strange Isn’t that indicative ” And then she said, “His name is gone It just bled ” How insane is that When my tattoo artist did it, you could definitely read it, but he said, “Trust me ” And I asked why and he said, “Just trust me ” A year later, the name was gone and so was Jamie The tattoo artist probably didn’t need psychic powers to know that It’s probably like, “Uh, really You sure you want to get this dude’s name on you ” Okay, so we do have a little update on the Jamie tattoo and the name disappearing or bleeding away So, in late 2023 on the Drew Barrymore Show, they showed this tattoo Can’t say when the image was taken, but they showed an image of it And either they completely edited out his name or the remnants of his name or Drew had it totally filled in because it is not just like it’s not just a little bar It is the entire banner is filled in black now And it looks like it’s a darker black than the other part of the tattoo slightly Maybe that’s maybe that’s just my screen I don’t know Um but I wouldn’t be surprised either way if like the art department did it cuz they’re like uh do you even like was the were they discussing it on the episode like discussing the the like contents of the um No, she was interviewing like a Formula 1 driver and I think he had a tattoo in the same spot She’s like oh we’re twins or he also had a cherub or something like that So, they briefly showed it on the screen I like to think that he had it on his lower back Yeah, it probably wasn’t a [  ] stamp
and we will share the image on our
website if you guys want to see what
we’re talking about
We’ve shared it a
couple times, but we’ll throw it in
there again
[Music]
The next tattoo she got is, I would say,
her most famous
I would say so, too
Most iconic
And of course, that is her
butterfly
So, we know she got this in
late 1994
It’s the butterfly
It’s
right underneath her belly button
So, I already have to jump in and say we
have this one wrong
We thought late 94
And I remember after
this episode came out, our friend Brian
texted and he was like, “Hey, just so
you know, when she’s on the Tonight Show
in April 1994, she already had the
butterfly cuz she talks about it
So,
let’s play that real quick
Now, there some of the rumors that they
have
Now, the tattoos
I don’t see any
tattoos
Do you have tattoos
That’s That’s the cool thing
None of my
tattoos are anywhere where they show if
I didn’t want them to, but I have six
Oh, you have six
Now, what would they
What are they
Do you like animals or
you have scenes or
Well, I have a butterfly
A butterfly
That’s appropriate
Um I have
um a cross, a blue moon
Where is the blue moon
Uh on my toe
On your toe
and um cherabs on the base of my
back
So that uh told us, you know, it was
earlier than we thought
It really isn’t
ever
right in your face visible until
Playboy, which comes out on stands in
January 94
Obviously, the photo shoot
was done several months prior to that
Um also the photo shoot for Sky Magazine
by Michael Mueller from their July 94
issue
You can vaguely see it in one
image, just barely
It’s so funny
It
was like definitely hidden for a while
and then all of a sudden the following
year she’s like, “Want to look at my
belly all the time
And I’m wondering is it like
lowrise jeans
Like is it like a
combination of like fashion
I’m also like how does she consider her
ankle to be a place that’s easy to
cover
Like I don’t agree that that’s
necessarily easy to cover
Um
she was wearing a lot of jeans in that
time I And I’m I’m guessing when we did
the episode, we were thinking of like
when would Playboy have been shot and we
were just going from there, right
All right
So, we’ve got a little more
accuracy there
So, let’s jump back in
[Music]
So, as most people know, she has always
loved the metaphor of butterflies that
you can change and metamorphice and grow
and become a more profoundly beautiful
and capable human being
on Ruby Wax in
1998
Ruby said, “Oh god, that’s gonna stretch
out if you ever get pregnant
” And Drew
said, “I think about that all the time
“
Oh my god, I forgot about that
And she also told Ruby that uh
she felt like she was too old for any
more tattoos
She was only 23, which is
hilarious
That’s so great
But a really long stretch did go by
before she got anymore
A lot of time went by
you know,
she said she was maybe too old to get
more tattoos
Well, 15 years later, um
she got a small bird um on the inside of
her right arm in May of 2009
Um and I
just thought it was cute when I I
remember feeling this when I saw it
There was a time when she was on Rosie
and I think we mentioned this before
where they were building birdhouses and
she said, “I love perching birdies
“
It is funny
I always think of that when
I see that tattoo as well
It’s not on YouTube anymore
It wasn’t
there then
It’s not there now, but
there was a time where it was there
And
I have the clip
I love purchase birdies
Thank God
I love that
[Music]
We know almost absolutely nothing about
that one
Like, it just showed up
She
never really talked about it
It was
just like this cute little I’m guessing
that was a spontaneous one
And for some reason I I always
connect it with Justin Long
You know why
I think
there was this magazine feature
I want
to say it’s for Blackbook where they
each like took photos and then like
posted like a text conversation between
the two of them and one of the photos
like the best photo of the bird tattoo
is from that
Oh, awesome
Maybe that’s why
Yeah, that’s pro that’s probably why
And maybe because they were probably
together when she got it, right
Would
that have made sense for this time
So, it probably just I can kind of
imagine that he might have been there
Oh, I bet you’re right
That’s
[Music]
um I love this
Okay, so we do have a little more info
It’s so cool that we were like
speculation city
You’re so smart
All right, update for this one
The bird
tattoo drew on Hollywood Squares
She
mentioned a stick and poke tattoo that
she once got in a hotel bathroom with
Justin Long and Billy Joe Armstrong of
Green Day
Of course, because Yeah, of
course
And we like right away I was
like, “Oh, this got to be the bird
“
It has to be
because I could imagine what stick and
poke like tattoos are usually relatively
simple
And anyway, clearly was random
They wouldn’t have chosen the hotel
bathroom if they had planned this ahead
of time
Also, I would is a stick and poke
like maybe less smooth lines because I
always feel like this has like sort of
jaggedy lines to it
It’s by hand
So, it’s I mean sometimes
people can do it really precisely but
it’s by hand
There’s not a machine
involved
So, definitely it looks like
you know
simple enough to do in that in that type
of tattooing
in a hotel bathroom
In a hotel bathroom
Um, and then
weirdly when we covered Rebel Homemaker,
Drew’s cookbook,
we discovered this little image, this
little cartoon birdie shows up twice in
the book
With no explanation
So, it still is to
me the most mysterious of her tattoos
It’s really sweet
What is the story
Where did this image
come from
Why would she put it in this
book twice
Unless she was sending
like a secret message to Justin
I’m going to get one of those birds
Like I’m just going to steal one
Catching birdies
If we can’t get our other idea, I’m just
we’re just going to get the birds
[Music]
Next one
The Breathe tattoo
So when
she attended the London premiere of
Going the Distance in August 2010, she
had breathe on her left forearm, but it
was just written there like in temporary
ink
It wasn’t the actual tattoo
And I
think there’s some people who don’t
realize that
And I had forgotten that that was
like a temporary version of it
It’s slightly different
So you
can kind of tell that she was like
workshopping it
Flower film staffer
named Brent Kyle who was really into
like doing a lot of their design stuff
he actually did the logo for
Flower Films that is currently been in
use
Um, and it’s very similar in style
and like font and look to this
So, she
worked with him on designing the
permanent version of this tattoo
By late February of 2011 is when the new
tattoo could be seen on her arm and it
was done by Todd Serenson
Between
August 2010 and February 2011, a handful
of years later, she had decided to get a
tattoo of her daughter’s names
And it
seemed like it was somewhat sporadic,
but obviously this is something that
would have meant a lot to her and is not
like a rashed decision
So, um, in March
2016, she got her daughter’s names all
and Frankie in her own handwriting on
the inside of her her right wrist
Um,
and she said she had been wanting to do
it
And then one day she said we were on
our way to an appointment and I was
like, “Can we just quickly stop at this
tattoo shop
” She walked in and said,
“Who’s available to do a tattoo quickly,
like right now, and this guy came up and
was like, yeah, I can
” So I was like,
“I’m going to write this down on a piece
of paper and then can you just transfer
it onto my arm
” And so she has this
really like really simple totally
obviously her own handwriting because we
know her handwriting well and it just
olive and Frankie
on the inside of her wrist
And I’ve
always loved wrist tattoos
So
me too
I’ve always found this one really
endearing and sweet for many many
reasons
Yeah, it’s a good one
Um and she had
posted some pictures of her actually
getting it which is cool cuz like we’ve
never had that kind of access before
That’s right
And then her last one
Damn, talk about
access
So, her most current one is on her arm
and it says home is where we are
So,
it’s kind of interesting because this is
also on her right arm
So, it’s right in
between her daughter’s names and her
bird
So, I don’t know like if that’s
just where she wants all her tattoos
now, on her right arm
Um, so in May 2021, she felt like she
still wanted to scratch that tattoo
itch
So, I guess she didn’t feel uh too
old anymore
Um, it wasn’t an impulse one at
all
She had thought about it for many
years
So, there was like a woman, just
a random lady who was getting a tattoo
that was meaningful and Drew said,
“Okay, I’m going to get one with you,
too, on the show
” The tattoo artist was
Ryan Ashley, who had won, I think it’s
they said she was the first female to
win the show Inc
And yeah, so the quote was basically
inspired by her divorce and by having to
move to New York after the divorce
She said, “Wherever life takes you, if
you’re lucky enough to be alongside
people you love, then to me that became
the definition of home,” she said,
adding that it’s the most important life
lesson, she learned
My eyes are
stinging because I’m crying so much
I
want people to feel that no matter where
they go in the world, if they’re lucky
enough to have someone to love, that is
so fulfilling
When I was in rental
apartments or not knowing where life was
going or so upset that the plans I tried
to solidify for my kids had changed, it
really led to the discovery of what home
really means to me
And that is if we
are together wherever we are, home is
where we are
So
that’s really sweet
I think that is probably her most
meaningful tattoo
I think she would say
that at least these days
I mean,
yeah,
it really has a lot of meaning behind it
and she’s mentioned many, many, many,
many times that this was the hardest
thing she ever went through in her life,
that time period
So, to have that come
out of it is really beautiful
[Music]
And now we’re back in the present
Yes, we are
We are here in August 2025
I’m just going to keep saying the date
I’m I’m an archavist, guys
How many
things I come across that aren’t dated
and I’m so upset about it
Yeah, I get it
Okay, let’s get into tattoo number 11,
which is very meaningful to Drew
It’s
interesting how the last one I was like,
this might be her most meaningful, and
then we’re like they just keep getting
like
meaningful on top of meaningful
Okay, so we are talking about the three
sardines
So, January 30th, 2023
I love
that now we have like
dates like lockdown
Um, this was done at Drew’s New York
apartment by Johnboy Tattoo
It is located on her left forearm above
the word breathe
So, she decided to
take a break from the right forearm for
just a little bit
Um, and her friend
Savannah Guthrie also got one at the
same time
It was like this thing that
they went off and did together that was
like so exciting to them
They talked
about it quite a lot
You could
definitely look that up
Really really sweet the like whole the
whole sentiment around it
Um and this was so cool to like
notice this in the magazine
I remember
you pointing this out
So in Drew Mag
there is like a photograph of some
ceramics that are shaped like sardines
that Drew photographed in Italy and it
looks just like her tattoo
And so like
we are
what 99% sure that this was the design
inspiration for the this tattoo which is
so cool
And I remember like when she first
got it before we knew what it
represented which we’ll get into
We
were like huh this is so random
Like
what are these weird little fish
I remember saying I think it’s kind of
cute
And then we found out and then we
every we all loved it
Like I feel like
I remember you Jolina and I like having
an exchange like huh
What do you think
about the fish
Um, but they do represent Drew and her
two daughters, Olive and Frankie, all
being in bed together
And that’s like
what they call themselves, the Three
Little Sardines
Or even more specifically
Welcome to Shardine
It is the hottest club in town
It is so
exclusive
It only has three members
[Laughter]
She sardine has definitely become like
part of our vernacular
Yeah, exactly
She sardine
and we have uh now gifted her something
in the sardine theme
Um we were lucky
enough to give her a tea towel um that
has sardines on it, like a really cute
pattern
I found the actual maker of the
towel
Her brand is called Hazel Made
and uh really cute stuff
And she was
really excited to find out as well that
we gifted this to Drew
But you gave it
to her
Like we had to overnight it
because you were going to the Drewberry
War show
And I like picked it up at the
front desk because the package arrived
for me at the hotel
It was it was very
cool
Um and Drew like I I’m pretty sure
she actually said to me like or maybe
she told me she was going to like frame
it in her kitchen or did she That’s
right
Did she say that
That is what you told me
I keep looking for it
Haven’t seen it
yet
Me neither
Let’s
jump into number 12, which Drew got on
my birthday, November 7th of 2023
Happy
birthday
Happy birthday to me, Drew
tattoo
This is also one I would get
So, Drew um got the words I am human
tattooed on her arm right under the home
is where we are
So, she’s filling up
that arm
Um
back on the right side
Back on the right side
and she
obtained this on air during a season 4
episode of the Jubberry Moore Show
Um,
done by John Mesa
And it’s just
simple block lettering, quite thin
It’s
It’s cool
It’s really clean
The Drew Marsh Show had shared this
really great behindthe-scenes video
documenting this entire process
So, we
will link to that so you guys can watch
it again
Um, and this is where she
reveals that she still likes all but two
of her tattoos
And like as we
discussed, we know she’s never really
liked the flowers
But what do we think the other one is
I feel like it’s probably like one of
the cherub ones
I’m guessing maybe like
the Jamie
Yeah,
that’s what I
That would make the most sense for
sentimental reasons
And it like maybe it’s the blur
blurred the most
I don’t know
I don’t
know
Again, we can speculate
Maybe
she’s not fond of her cross anymore
That’s a great I would love to ask her
about all of this
One day,
one day
One day we will
We’ve We’ve
just been doing this three years, but we
keep waiting
She also said that it was the least
painful one she’s ever gotten, which is
interesting
Um maybe this guy just had
a really nice touch
and it was like so fine
Like the
lettering is just like I almost am like,
“Wow, it probably it was probably so
quick
” I think it was she got the whole
thing in like a couple minutes, right
And then our last note on this is that
Joel Madden was a guest on the episode
Um, and he complimented her tattoo and
kind of approved of it
And for Drew
that set, she said, “It set me on my way
with little clouds and wings
“
I love that
Adorable
Let’s get into number 13 of 14
The word
time
Oh, this was kind of interesting
So, back in October 2023, we noticed,
you noticed first that she was writing
the word time on her arm
You could see
it on the Drew Barrymore show
You could
see it when she went to Austin for the
Formula 1 thing
And she had said that she had recently
gone through something that was the most
difficult thing since her divorce
And
she realized that time is what helps
And we speculated back then and I’m sure
we were right that she was talking about
the whole drama that happened with the
writer’s guild strike
Yeah, we don’t have to get into that
We’ve got an episode that covers it
Like if you guys want to listen to that
Um but yeah, she had this realization
that time is the thing that helps
So much like the breathe tattoo, she was
kind of like workshopping this, you
know, by writing on her arm first before
she committed to the tattoo, which I
love
So this year um as of recording so
March 2025 um she got this tattoo done
and again it was done live on air um by
Johnboy with Savannah Guthrie joining
in
Is John Boy the same as the first
guy
He’s the guy that did the sardines
So our sardine friend has
returned
He’s swimming on back in
Um, and this one went on her left outer
forearm, which I think is such an
interesting placement
Um, and then we get another very similar
placement, which I’ll talk about in a
sec
Yeah, I don’t know
I just like it
Um, and we got some really beautiful
photographs of this and they were
showing it super up close if we’re
getting it done
Um, and it’s also it I
think both of us both you and I felt
like it was had like a strange like
because it’s all lowercase like it was
like was it her handwriting
Yeah, we didn’t think so until they
posted the video and we were both like
well we were wrong
We thought we knew
her handwriting apparently
I mean it’s
a weird T because it looks like an
upside down cross and then it’s a weird
M because it doesn’t have like the
little is that called a serif
I don’t
know
Yeah, the little like up part at the
beginning of the end
Um, but we got to
see Yeah
that they were like choosing
Drew wrote a bunch of T’s and they were
choosing the tea
Like it was really
cool
Um, so Drew says about basically
about the tattoo
Drew said, “I realize now how important
time is, how meaningful, how not to take
it for granted
Time is our most
precious commodity
” So, let’s hear her
chatting about the meaning of this
tattoo to her
The reason I got this
tattoo that says time was because I was
explaining to my daughter Frankie a
couple years ago that I really think the
great healer can be time
Another reason
is I believe in timing
Timing is
everything
And also I’ve come to
believe that time is the most precious
commodity I have
I’m getting to a time
in my life and an age and a place where
things look different
I don’t have all
the time in the world
And I want a way
to carry this with me and have a
beautiful reminder of how much I now
respect and appreciate time and that it
does heal and it is the best thing in
the world
I was just going to say I almost
want to like do like hash marks every
time she says time in like three
different contexts she uses time
Also, I’m like when she’s talking about
how like precious it is, I’m like,
“Okay, then this is why she no longer
has like 25 different projects going
This is why we’re saying goodbye to some
of her businesses
It all makes sense
Time goes quickly
Um, all right
Tattoo number 14 are this um this very
meaningful string of numbers that we
mentioned earlier, 222
And she received this within 20 days, 20
or 21 days of us recording this episode
She received it
She opened her mailbox
and there it was
She received it
I’m I like it
Um, and it was done at a a tattoo studio
called Bang Bang Tattoo in New York by
Sarah Corey
And it is on her right
outer forearm
So, she’s got these like
if she was like a boxer, you know, and
put her arms up and like, you know, was
getting ready
She’d have time and these numbers and
people would be like, “What what the
heck does that mean
It’s time to knock you out
Too too too
much
” I don’t know
So, we had to come here to do tattoo two
for this 22
Are you guys following
So, if anyone out there doesn’t know,
Drew’s birthday is 222, February 22nd,
and my birthday is 111
So, I always
feel that connection with her
I love
111 and 11
Anyway, 22 has always been
her lucky number
She’s often used it in
her films and it’s even on beautiful
appliances and promo photos
The time is
set to 2:22, which I love
And at some
point, fairly recently, I’m going to
guess last year or so
Probably on the
Drew Barrymore show, she did say like,
I’m thinking of getting a 222 tattoo
Um, so we knew that this was probably
coming and it so it wasn’t a surprise
It was very fun when the pictures
appeared that uh the tattoo artist
shared on her Instagram
I love the
pictures of Drew
They’re so darling
So happy
So, originally in our first like go
around of coverage of this episode 12,
we did get into piercings as well
because we just thought like it’d be fun
to include that and like rumors of
piercings that have been out there about
her her actual like ear piercings, her
tongue piercings she had for a while
So, if you guys are interested in
hearing about that as well, go back and
listen to episode 12
All right
Thank you guys for joining us
for our tattoo
redo
[Laughter]
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Um, a question
to take us out
What’s your favorite of
Drew’s tattoos
I guess in like first instinct I just
have to go with the butterfly
Like it
is just so
so iconic
It’s just so part of mid ‘9s Drew and I
just love it and it, you know, inspired
my butterfly that I got in the spot
where her Jamie tattoo is, which is a
little confusing, but yeah, I didn’t
want one on my belly
Yeah, that makes sense
Um, for
me, I think I think I actually said in
the previous episode that I really loved
the moon tattoo, and I still do
Like,
weirdly, it’s a weirdly like it’s so
blurry, you know, like it’s not it
doesn’t look good anymore, but I
realized like I’m going to be getting a
tattoo soon, and I might have a moon
incorporated somewhere
Okay, I really
did like deep down kind of love that
Um, is it my favorite
It’s not my favorite in style
I asked I
like how I ask these questions and I
don’t really have an answer
You need like a bunch of different
categories
Which do you love in
meeting
Which do you love
aesthetically
Which
which do you love for nostalgia
But you know what
In like the
in the grand scheme of things, it
probably is the butterfly
All right
Good choice
You know,
we’re so in sync
Thank you for uh coming with us through
this metamorphosis and uh we’ll see you
all next Tuesday
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