Episode 003 - Rolling Stone, June 15, 1995

Episode 065 - Babes in Toyland - Transcript

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Ashley (22s):
All right. Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew.

Anne (25s):
This is A Drew Barrymore Podcast, brought to you by thedrewseum.com

Ashley (28s):
And sponsored by our friends at Positive Medium.

Anne (31s):
I’m Anne.

Ashley (32s):
And I’m Ashley.

Anne (34s):
And hello, welcome to episode 65,

Ashley (38s):
Our Christmas episode, if you will.

Anne (40s):
Yes. Merry Christmas

Ashley (41s):
Y’all. And final episode of 2023. Yes.

Anne (47s):
That’s pretty exciting. Also weird that the year’s over

Ashley (51s):
Crazy. Oh my God, I can’t believe it. Yeah. So we are gonna take a break. It could be one week, it could be two. We’ll let you know. Just stay tuned. Yeah, stay

Anne (58s):
Tuned. Stay tuned. Watch our social needs. You know where to find the info. Social

Ashley (1m 2s):
Needs. Yeah, all your social mead needs. How, Do, You, Drew Pod on Instagram. We’ll tell you there.

Anne (1m 7s):
Yes. Don’t forget to check that out. Anyway, all the time, every day of your life.

Ashley (1m 11s):
You could also go check out our Patreon. We have a new member there. We wanna give a shout out to Angela. Thank you so much.

Anne (1m 18s):
Thank you, Angela. We are so excited. Our little community over on Patreon’s growing a little bit at a time. So Yes, go check us out there.

Ashley (1m 28s):
I had some ideas for what we were gonna offer and we never talked about it. We’ll get there. I promise guys. I promise. Yes.

Anne (1m 35s):
Yes. I feel like one thing we talked about that we can maybe tease here a little bit is like possibly movie watch throughs. Yes. It would be really funny to have done it for this one, but we’ll get into why this movie’s so entertaining and let’s talk about something really exciting in our follow-up section here. Well, is this a follow-up? Is this something just more than that than we

Ashley (1m 55s):
May make a new segment. We haven’t come up with a good name yet. Yes. And we’re hoping this happens frequently, but we have another comment from Drew on our Instagram at Drew Zm.

Anne (2m 5s):
So amazing. So amazing.

Ashley (2m 9s):
So I posted four of our really cool four by six photographs that we have in our collection of Drew at the Batman forever premiere in 1995. Of course she has that classic look with the two slips and then little Daisy in her hair and she commented last night to tell us a little bit more about it.

Anne (2m 27s):
So crazy. So Drew Barrymore left this comment at, I bought those slips at Frederick’s of Hollywood and put one on top of the other and threw on a pair of platforms for my closet and went to the premier. I wasn’t at that place where anyone dressed me, so I dressed myself for about $50 and I love the carefree style to this day.

Ashley (2m 46s):
Yes. So do we.

Anne (2m 48s):
So do we.

Ashley (2m 50s):
I mean, this is not an important, I’m not being like drill, you’re wrong. This isn’t one of those that I’m doing. But she told Courtney Love on film in 1995 that she got the, the Slips at Playmates, which is like, kind of like a stripper store in Hollywood.

Anne (3m 4s):
Okay.

Ashley (3m 5s):
Just a quick way of putting it. So whether it was Frederick’s or Playmates is not like that different. And also it was almost 30 years ago. So Yes. Whether she had it wrong then or now, it doesn’t really matter. Yeah. The, the general vibe is correct.

Anne (3m 17s):
Absolutely. And we are so honored that

Ashley (3m 19s):
Oh my God,

Anne (3m 20s):
That she’s like engaging with our content. Yeah. Like, I mean we’re just so thrilled.

Ashley (3m 24s):
So the dream we like manifested the shit out of that happening.

Anne (3m 28s):
Yes, absolutely. And Drew, if you’re somehow listening, hi, we love you. Hi. Hi. Could you imagine? Hi, I love

Ashley (3m 35s):
Your movie. Hi.

Anne (3m 37s):
Okay, so what kind of follow ups do we have?

Ashley (3m 40s):
So I haven’t watched this yet, but I saw a note about it and I just wanna mention it. Apparently when Gary Oldman was on the Drew Barrymore show this week, she talked about her 2001 house fire.

Anne (3m 51s):
Okay.

Ashley (3m 52s):
And this one just killed me. She said that one of the items that she lost in that fire was her childhood passport, which had all the stamps of everywhere she’d been. And since we were just talking last week about her 1982 when she traveled all over for et, it made me think of that.

Anne (4m 7s):
And I would die to see her passport.

Ashley (4m 10s):
Oh, I know.

Anne (4m 11s):
Oh my. Brutal. My God.

Ashley (4m 13s):
I know. It made me really sad.

Anne (4m 14s):
It’s like Drew, do you have any pictures of it? She probably doesn’t because you wouldn’t think you were gonna lose that. That was like, that’s part of her archive. Yeah. Well you know what this is, we have to make note of like that there was part of the feature collection that’s missing because of a fire. Oh.

Ashley (4m 28s):
Imagine having that item in the, like the Drew Museum one day, but it’s gone forever.

Anne (4m 33s):
Oof. Oh, that’s heartbreaking.

Ashley (4m 35s):
Okay. That, that was upsetting. Sorry.

Anne (4m 37s):
Alright, well I, I just, you know, I’m giving up now, but let’s get to happier things. Okay. What did Drew proclaim her love for this past week? I love, love. We

Ashley (4m 47s):
Got some good ones this week. She was on a roll.

Anne (4m 49s):
Let’s hear it.

Ashley (4m 50s):
All right. Drew loves slumber parties.

Anne (4m 53s):
Ooh. Like one we just had

Ashley (4m 55s):
And yeah. And also someone said that she was like a, like they reminded her of a sleepover because of the last thing in dancing. We’ve mentioned that last week.

Anne (5m 4s):
Yeah, absolutely. Okay. What else? What else does she love?

Ashley (5m 8s):
Drew loves QVC. She also loves five below the store. And she probably said that four times on the show last week. ’cause they kept giving money to Drew gooders. I love Five Below.

Anne (5m 20s):
What is five Below?

Ashley (5m 21s):
It’s like a dollar store, but kind of more aimed towards teenagers maybe.

Anne (5m 26s):
Oh, that’s cool. All right. What else?

Ashley (5m 29s):
He also loves grilled fruit.

Anne (5m 31s):
Ooh, I like a grilled pineapple.

Ashley (5m 33s):
Oh, okay.

Anne (5m 34s):
And peach.

Ashley (5m 35s):
Yeah. They were talking about peaches. Blackberries

Anne (5m 38s):
Mm.

Ashley (5m 39s):
A good nut.

Anne (5m 41s):
You’re getting on board with that. I’ve always been a good nut person. Drew, you’re a nut.

Ashley (5m 47s):
She’s, she really is. Drew loves silicone.

Anne (5m 50s):
Hmm. Okay. Me too actually.

Ashley (5m 51s):
Popcorn? Yes.

Anne (5m 53s):
Hmm. I was just eating some last night and going, why don’t I eat this every day?

Ashley (5m 57s):
Oh, all the time. I know. Okay. Okay. Drew loves highlighting cities. She loves Mr. T.

Anne (6m 3s):
Aw,

Ashley (6m 4s):
When she said that, she’s like, and I mean it like I actually love Mr. T. Like I knew him.

Anne (6m 8s):
Did they show a picture?

Ashley (6m 10s):
Yes they did.

Anne (6m 11s):
Okay, good, good, good. Okay. What else?

Ashley (6m 13s):
She loves a 50 50, which is an ice cream treat. Like half, I think it’s like half slushy, half ice cream or

Anne (6m 19s):
Something. Does she like ice cream now?

Ashley (6m 21s):
Oh, I guess so.

Anne (6m 23s):
Okay. What else?

Ashley (6m 24s):
She also loves a viewing party. Okay. And one more Berry. Raspberries. Yes.

Anne (6m 30s):
Hmm.

Ashley (6m 31s):
I know.

Anne (6m 32s):
Now I want some grilled fruit and then a side of blackberries and raspberries and popcorn.

Ashley (6m 37s):
Yeah, popcorn. Totally

Anne (6m 38s):
Fake at a slum party while watching a movie.

Ashley (6m 41s):
Perfect. How about while watching this wonderful film, Babes in Toyland, we’re gonna get into,

Anne (6m 46s):
I mean here we are. Okay, so let’s get into our, you’ve got male segment,

3 (6m 53s):
You’ve got mail.

Ashley (6m 55s):
So as we mentioned last episode, we’re trying to catch up on some of the international reviews that people have left for us on Apple that you can’t necessarily see in the US unless you kind of go sneakily about it. So this one comes from our amazing fronts. Hi. Who is a long time Drewbie friend. If you heard her on our hairstyles episode, right? Number 57 7. Yep. Yeah. You know that Tess is awesome and here’s just more proof of that.

Anne (7m 23s):
Yeah. So the title is Essential for Drew Barrymore fans. First of all, great title. Love

Ashley (7m 28s):
It. That’s exactly what we aim to be.

Anne (7m 30s):
Yes. And Tess said, if you love the shiny happy daisy, that is Drew Barrymore. This podcast is for you. Drew archivists, Ash and Ann from the Drew have an encyclopedic knowledge about all things Drew. Their true friendship shines through every episode and they exude the kindness, friendliness, and all around happiness that Drew puts out into the world.

Ashley (7m 49s):
Perfection. Thank you Tess.

Anne (7m 51s):
Yes, thank you. Thank you. I feel like we need to put testimonials on our website now and that’s gonna be one of them. We,

Ashley (7m 56s):
We already have that Anne,

Anne (7m 57s):
Do we? Yeah. Cool. Cool. I’m so glad that we have a testimonial section on the website to add this to and I

Ashley (8m 4s):
Think I already did.

Anne (8m 5s):
Thank you so much Tess. That is so kind. And we love you.

Ashley (8m 9s):
We do.

Anne (8m 10s):
Okay. What do we have for this weekend for history?

Ashley (8m 13s):
How about this one? December 22nd, 2007, Nancy Javon and Jimmy Fallon got married. Oh,

Anne (8m 21s):
Oh

Ashley (8m 21s):
Yeah. So apparently they got married on Richard Branson’s Island. It’s called Necker Island in the British Virgin Island.

Anne (8m 30s):
Okay. I

Ashley (8m 30s):
Know, here’s a little story about it from Nancy. She said we got this place for three days. So Jimmy goes, what if we got married in three weeks instead of next summer? And I’m like, this is the best idea of all human time. It’s a very Drew like thing to say. Yeah. So we had 12 people at our wedding. I just got dressed, done as fast as I could, we didn’t care. Ah. So it was very small as they said. There was a photo that they gave to People magazine with the whole crew that was there. So obviously Drew was in attendance. Justin Long was her date. They were dating at the time. And Nancy’s former assistant and longtime flower film staffer. Gwen Stroman was also there. Yeah. But no, Chris Miller, which I find so surprising.

Ashley (9m 12s):
Oh, maybe he couldn’t go. It is a really cool photo. Drew’s wearing like some interesting long silvery dress I’ve never seen before. Would love to see more photos, but we just have the one. Also though this crew, I think a couple days before the wedding they went to another island in the Virgin Islands called Guan. Okay. And they left like a really cool note Nancy and Jimmy did, and then a photo of the four of them. So Jimmy, Nancy, Drew and Justin. Oh. And I think like somebody vacationed there and then took pictures of these and posted them on Flicker. I think that’s how we saw them. That

Anne (9m 47s):
Makes sense.

Ashley (9m 48s):
They were like in the hotel or something. How

Anne (9m 51s):
Cute. Is there anything noteworthy we wanna mention from the note

Ashley (9m 54s):
Basically? Yeah, it’s kind of interesting. So I think Nancy wrote this and she said We highly recommend the pre-breakfast Wild Bore

Anne (10m 2s):
Wild as well

Ashley (10m 4s):
As shark jumping,

Anne (10m 5s):
Which we’re sure will be taken off the event list by the next year. Godspeed to Jason and April’s quick recovery. I know, I’m like, is this a joke?

Ashley (10m 13s):
And then something about a bat cave. I dunno.

Anne (10m 16s):
Oh, this sounds awesome. I hope Drew was there for all that.

Ashley (10m 19s):
I I think she probably was based on the photo. I love the photo of the four of them. I think it’s so cute.

Anne (10m 23s):
So sweet. That’s the one I always think of. I kind of forget about the like entire wedding. Yeah, the wedding one. Yeah. Yeah. It’s so cute. I love that Drew and Justin both have flowers in their hair. Aw, it’s so, oh, so does, so does Nancy.

Ashley (10m 35s):
Nancy and Jimmy looks, looks like he has one in his pocket.

Anne (10m 38s):
Oh yes he does.

Ashley (10m 40s):
So we’ll share these. They’re really fun if you’ve never seen them. This is cute.

Anne (10m 43s):
And I love this pole. Yeah. Thought it was a

Ashley (10m 45s):
Unique

Anne (10m 46s):
One. Yeah. Really cute. Okay, so it looks like there’s nothing new with Drew. Yeah.

Ashley (10m 52s):
Wait, wait. She went to the Madonna concert, she posted about that. Oh yes

Anne (10m 56s):
She did.

Ashley (10m 57s):
Okay. And that’s that, that’s

Anne (10m 59s):
That.

Ashley (10m 59s):
She’s always loved Madonna though. I always feel like she’s looked to her as like someone who’s ever changing and that was like an inspirational to Drew.

Anne (11m 7s):
Yeah, absolutely. It would be kind of fun to see if like we could start tracking like when she’s mentioned Madonna. Oh

Ashley (11m 12s):
Yeah. Remember that bizarre 1996 article? She mentions her like three times. If you guys wanna see that, that’s way back in our episode. Like 11 or something.

Anne (11m 21s):
Good memory. Yeah. How do Drewbie Drewbie

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Anne (12m 59s):
Hey, so are you ready to just dive into this gem of a film 1980 six’s TV movie Babes in Toyland?

Ashley (13m 7s):
Let’s go to Drew and her co-star. Keanu Reeves. Introduce it for us obscure masterpiece. Obs

4 (13m 13s):
Babes in Toyland.

0 (13m 15s):
Sometimes obscurity is good.

Ashley (13m 17s):
Well said guy. As well said. So, okay. I just wanna say, I know there are people who have like a weird love nostalgia for this movie. I did not watch this growing up, so I cannot relate. I think maybe if you have those kind of rose colored glasses on it, maybe you view it differently. I think this is a horrible movie, but horrible in a, in a mildly entertaining way. Like it’s kind of fun to hate watch.

Anne (13m 40s):
Yeah. Oh for sure. Like when we start, when we turned it on, we were talking about, Jared and I were talking about doing like mystery science, theater treatment. Oh

Ashley (13m 48s):
Totally.

Anne (13m 48s):
Yeah. It’s totally perfect for

Ashley (13m 50s):
That. I am gonna say most of my notes are not the nicest or the most positive and usually I’m a positive person. But as I was watching it I was just like, oh my God.

Anne (13m 59s):
Yeah. We’re gonna be laughing through this whole episode though. So there’s joy that comes out of it.

Ashley (14m 3s):
There is another thing I wanna note though. If you do want to have some like fun Drew Christmas maybe like something that’s actually enjoyable and delightful and funny and cute and sweet, go watch all of the other reindeer. It’s much better. And then you can listen to our episode from last Christmas about that one

Anne (14m 23s):
Good call. So that’s a good way to steer people in the direction of more cute Drew Drew’s. Drew’s cute in this In a really interesting way. Yeah, in a different way. Yeah. Let’s, let’s, before we jump into Drew’s, you know cuteness, let’s read the IMDB summary for this film.

Ashley (14m 40s):
Okay. So a young girl wakes up in the realm of Toyland, like wakes up kind of random. Okay. Yeah, sorry. Where she teams up with her family and friends to overthrow the evil villain. Barnaby.

Anne (14m 52s):
I don’t think it says enough about the surrealism or the, or the fact that it’s a Wizard of Oz ripoff. Let’s move on. Before we get to the pre-production, I think we, it’s important to notice that the original, it’s based on an operetta composed by Victor Herbert in 1903. And it’s been filmed several times over different decades. I’ve only seen this one.

Ashley (15m 13s):
I think I watched the one with like the Disney one as a kid.

Anne (15m 16s):
There’s a like a Laurel and Hardy one I think.

Ashley (15m 19s):
Yeah, there’s a Disney one with Annette Funicello. I think I watched that once as a kid and I feel like I liked it, but I don’t have really any other memory about it. I

Anne (15m 26s):
Wonder if before Drew did this, if she’d watched any.

Ashley (15m 29s):
Yeah, probably. So it was directed by Clive Donner and written by Paul Del and Glen McDonna and maybe one of those guys is from Cincinnati because boy is there a lot of love for that city in this movie. Yes. A weird amount. We’ll get into that.

Anne (15m 45s):
There sure is. The movie Stars Keanu Reeves in an early role here. Richard Mulligan. Is he the bad guy?

Ashley (15m 53s):
Yeah. And he was on that show Empty Nest. I don’t know if you remember that as a kid, but my babysitter used to watch it.

Anne (15m 59s):
I know the name. So he plays the Mr. Barnaby, Mr. Just Barbie Bar.

Ashley (16m 4s):
Barnaby Barnaby Barnacle. Oh

Anne (16m 6s):
That’s right. God. And then we have Eileen Brennan who was from Clue, which was your favorite eighties movie mentioned in the end of our previous

Ashley (16m 14s):
Episode. Yeah. And this probably would’ve been like the year after Clue was filmed Probably.

Anne (16m 18s):
Yes. And then Googie Gress who was apparently in Wayne’s World two and he’s just not that into you. Yeah. Did they have scenes together in either, either film?

Ashley (16m 27s):
I had no idea that he was in those movies until I was doing research.

Anne (16m 32s):
Okay. So funny,

Ashley (16m 33s):
He’s sort of like Keanu’s sidekick in this movie I guess. And he is the butt of, feels like a lot of eighties fat jokes. Oh

Anne (16m 41s):
Absolutely. He’s supposed, I think he’s supposed to be like a gingerbread man or something. It’s,

Ashley (16m 45s):
No, he is Georgie Porgie. Oh.

Anne (16m 48s):
Who is Georgie Porgie

Ashley (16m 49s):
Pudding in Pie Kiss the Girls and made them cry. Lovely.

Anne (16m 56s):
Georgie Porgie. And then we have Pat Marita is also in this as the Toy Master and he was in Karate Kid two years prior to this film. So

Ashley (17m 7s):
What a downgrade. Also Jill Solan plays Drew’s sister and I heard her recently on a podcast called $2 Late Fee. She was so delightful. It was definitely jarring to hear her voice hear now because she’s like probably in her sixties.

Anne (17m 23s):
Oh weird. And

Ashley (17m 23s):
I was like, just like older lady. This is so

Anne (17m 26s):
Weird. Yeah.

Ashley (17m 27s):
I listened to it, just hoping to glean some cool details for this that she didn’t really give much. But she did say that they first went to England to do costume fittings before they went on to Germany to film. Oh,

Anne (17m 39s):
Interesting.

Ashley (17m 39s):
Yeah. And we knew this was filmed in Germany. So Drew talks about this actually in both her books, which is pretty surprising because it is that obscure masterpiece as

Anne (17m 48s):
She said. Absolutely.

Ashley (17m 51s):
So, yeah. And little Girl lost Drew talks about how she went to Germany and Munich, Germany to film this. And it was like a good change of scenery for her and Jade because were clashing a lot. And then of course, for some reason Drew just had a ton of independence when she was

Anne (18m 6s):
Here. Of course.

Ashley (18m 8s):
And one thing she mentioned was that she was really like accepted by the crew, the cast, and felt like she wasn’t an outsider the way she’d been feeling at school when she filmed this.

Anne (18m 19s):
Yep.

Ashley (18m 19s):
Which makes me sad.

Anne (18m 20s):
I gotta make one note, is that it actually says I demanded more independence from my mother. So I think we were talking about like her demands in a previous episode. Yeah. We

Ashley (18m 30s):
Were talking about how Amy Fisher, she might have pulled from her actual real life. Would you?

Anne (18m 34s):
Yep.

Ashley (18m 35s):
Okay. So yeah, we’ve mentioned this before and for some reason we get a lot of hits to the Drewseum dot com by people searching Drew, Barrymore, rod Stewart.

Anne (18m 43s):
Oh yeah.

Ashley (18m 44s):
And so this is the story. So Rod Stewart’s crew was in town for a concert and Drew got invited to like go hang out at, on the tour bus and backstage. And then she like partied with the whole band like literally partied. So Drew’s 11 just to put things in perspective.

Anne (19m 1s):
Yep. Oh yeah. And she says, we got crazy drunk, a whole lot of us. And someone took a video of everyone stumbling around the room, falling off the beds, drowning tiny bottles of liquor from the mini bar. I need that video.

Ashley (19m 12s):
Yeah, I,

Anne (19m 12s):
I know she’s 11 and we’d be disturbed by it. But,

Ashley (19m 15s):
But can you imagine for the archive? Yeah. And we will talk a little bit more. I’ll skip over to Wildflower. She also talks about this incident in a chapter called Germany. And she talks about how, so while they were having this like kind of partying, they were in this hotel and they went around and stole like people’s dry cleaning or hanging laundry bags. Oh. And they started throwing all these clothes off of balconies at the hotel.

Anne (19m 41s):
Oh my God.

Ashley (19m 42s):
And Drew started feeling really guilty about it and like stood back and kind of watched and she was like, oh my God, what have I done here? And she says that this haunts her to this day. And she thinks that she has a karma for it because she loses clothes all the time.

5 (19m 57s):
I’m telling you that I cannot keep clothes and I am convinced it is my karma from that night in Munich. And you know what I say to myself, okay, you probably deserve it. I really am so sorry and remorseful and I am positive that what I’m wearing right now will probably be gone by the time anyone ever hears this.

Anne (20m 28s):
Whoa.

Ashley (20m 30s):
Yes. So that happened. And then also Rod Stewart then invited Drew to move on with them to Vienna. And it was over a weekend and she was like, they’re like the circus. I’m gonna run away with them. And then Jade changed her mind and said she couldn’t go. And it said it caused Drew to erupt in a volcanic temper tantrum that lasted for several days.

Anne (20m 50s):
Oh my God. Is that, is that in Wildflower or in

Ashley (20m 53s):
No, that one’s in Little Girl Loss. Because she said, oh God. And she said it was like, that was the fun and she saw it rolling away, leaving her behind in a cloud of dust.

Anne (21m 2s):
Oh my God.

Ashley (21m 3s):
But yeah, so one of the more interesting things about this movie, more interesting than the movie itself, is just knowing like what was going on with life with her personally. That she’s like hanging out, having like smoking pot, drinking and partying with people. Apparently. And I had totally blocked this out. She had a boyfriend who was 15 who was working on the movie.

Anne (21m 24s):
Movie. Yeah.

Ashley (21m 25s):
What? She’s 11. She’s 11. I can’t

Anne (21m 28s):
11.

Ashley (21m 29s):
Oh my God. And it said that they were seriously making out and Ward was getting around set. And so Jade had to have a sex talk with her. I’m so upset by this

Anne (21m 39s):
11.

Ashley (21m 40s):
Oh my God.

Anne (21m 41s):
Thankfully the kid wasn’t older.

Ashley (21m 44s):
I, I know. It’s like, oh he was only 15 I guess. No. And then I’m like, who is this guy? There’s so many extras and like he could just be a weird guy in a teddy bear suit for all we know.

Anne (21m 54s):
Oh my God. There’s so many people in Suits. We’ll get, we’ll get into that. Oh. But it, I think it’s funny that in the movie the people in the suits are sometimes featured on the screen alone. It’s like they just show the teddy bear like moving its head.

Ashley (22m 8s):
So

Anne (22m 9s):
Moving on kind of to a little bit more about the production. I was wondering about this. So Drew’s singing voice was supposedly dubbed by Linda Harmon. Is that somebody notable or that’s just,

Ashley (22m 18s):
I think she just does a lot of this kind of stuff. Okay. You can tell later on in the movie we’ll point it out again, but like clearly she’s a wo like an adult. Yes. Not a child.

Anne (22m 30s):
Totally. And this is such a cool thing about this film that’s so strange despite how conveniently obscure this film is. We have lots and lots of behind the scenes photos from it, which is really fun to see because it’s such a time in Drew’s life. Like she was about to like not be in the public eye as much.

Ashley (22m 48s):
Yeah. It’s, wow, good point. It’s,

Anne (22m 50s):
And she’s still, even though she’s a kid, she’s 11 years old, she claims she’s not a kid throughout this whole film.

Ashley (22m 56s):
She claims she’s what a child. Yeah.

Anne (22m 57s):
Which it feels actually very like true to her life to be like trying to escape that childhood thing.

Ashley (23m 3s):
Yeah. It crazy. Especially when you know what she was doing behind the scenes.

Anne (23m 7s):
Absolutely.

Ashley (23m 8s):
But yeah, we’re lucky. Yeah, we’ll share some of these photos there. There’s a lot of really cool ones. It’s strange. Like way more than some of the more big time movies.

Anne (23m 17s):
Yeah. Who knows why? I mean it must just be because like nobody cared about keeping it private. I don’t know. It’s like, I don’t know. It’s so strange. But it’s so cool. ’cause like I said, it’s a unique thing and it’s not something I really think about digging into and being appreciative of. Yeah. I also just had to point out that I have a really cool pair of lobby cards, but only I think two or three of them feature Drew and the rest are like weird. Like the either the creatures or some other stuff. So, so

Ashley (23m 47s):
Strange

Anne (23m 48s):
That with the release

Ashley (23m 49s):
She’s like in every scene.

Anne (23m 51s):
I know. So it’s like why are more than half of the lobby cards in that set not featuring Drew? It’s just really funny.

6 (24m 1s):
I come from

7 (24m 2s):
C-I-N-C-I and NATI. Cincinnati

8 (24m 6s):
The best county.

Anne (24m 7s):
Okay. So let’s get into the movie.

Ashley (24m 9s):
Okay. We’re gonna go through our notes. Like I said, just a little disclaimer. Mine aren’t all very nice. We’re gonna have fun with it.

Anne (24m 16s):
And then the other disclaimers, we just point out whatever we wanna talk about. We’re not gonna go through the whole plot line by line. We’re just talking about scenes we even thought were funny or interesting or other.

Ashley (24m 27s):
Or other. Yeah. My my first note was that, so Drew, it starts off in Drew’s reading a cookbook and it’s that Plaid Better Homes and Gardens Cookbook Classic. And I know my mom had that. Like I recognized it immediately. Yep. And then I was laughing like, I wonder if Drew has this in her cookbook collection now

Anne (24m 44s):
She has to. It’s so classic. I think my mom has two ’cause we have, oh my God. Amazing. We have one that I grew up with and then like one came from my grandmother. Cool. Because that, it’s like every year they would re-release it. It’s like, oh

Ashley (24m 53s):
Really? I didn’t know

Anne (24m 54s):
That. I think so. It’s like one of those cookbooks that like has like many versions and it’s like I, I’m sure it’s still exists. It’s got, it’s

Ashley (25m 0s):
Amazing.

Anne (25m 1s):
I thought it was funny that it looked like she was just like browsing the cookbook, which I guess is, I guess it’s what you do. I mean that’s

Ashley (25m 6s):
Literally what she does now. That’s like her favorite thing to do.

Anne (25m 10s):
So cool. So cool.

Ashley (25m 12s):
What do you think about her costume choice? So she wears the same thing, the entire movie except I guess in one point she has a jacket over it, but it’s very like plain and not so cute. So she’s just got a red T-shirt on and this weird like denim sort of jumper over it. A dress. Yeah. Yeah. So my first thought was like, is this supposed to be evocative of Dorothy because there are so many Wizard of Oz ripoffs shamelessly pulling plot points. Yes. And I’m like, is this like intentional? ’cause it’s sort of got that like apron dress look.

Anne (25m 49s):
Okay. I have a couple thoughts. I think yes, it’s supposed to be evocative of Dorothy because that dress that Dorothy wears kind of has like an apron top to it. Even though it’s like gingham, like blue gingham. Jared said Drew looked like Mario, like Super Mario

Ashley (26m 4s):
Amazing.

Anne (26m 5s):
And also mentioned the Dorothy thing. And I think she kind of looks like a toy a little bit. ’cause like it’s like simple clothing. Like you know, solid color. I just had that thought right now. But I feel like it works

Ashley (26m 16s):
Okay

Anne (26m 16s):
Even though it’s like, oh I’d love to see her in different outfits. Like literally the whole movie is supposed to take place within a couple of hours of her life.

Ashley (26m 22s):
Which makes sense. Yeah. And then she’s got like white, this horrible like white slouchy socks and white ugly tennis shoes. Her shoes,

Anne (26m 29s):
Her like so bad. Her legs, like her whole sock and shoe area looks so chunky. It’s kind of funny.

Ashley (26m 34s):
Yes. Eighties.

Anne (26m 36s):
Yeah. And one thing I noticed in the intro, she and her sister are talking to each other and like Drew like says you are rap to her. Like it’s like, seems like it’s a playful kind of thing. But yeah, they’re cute.

Ashley (26m 47s):
Cute

Anne (26m 47s):
Together. Did she just call her a rat and then she says it again? Yep.

Ashley (26m 50s):
I think they do have a sweet little connection. I’m sure Drew was like loving having a big sister feeling.

Anne (26m 55s):
Absolutely. I also, just to kind of go back to a little, her loss a little bit. Like she does say, I think you mentioned it like there was like a welcoming, loving. Yeah. You can feel that. Like there’s the, the part when she’s like face to face with that actor Googie Gress. I was like, oh, there’s so much like tenderness there. Yeah. I

Ashley (27m 12s):
Just sweet like

Anne (27m 12s):
True tenderness. So anyway, I loved that. And then I just have to go back to her cooking. So I, she talked about that she’s gonna like cook dinner course

Ashley (27m 19s):
’cause she’s 11 and in charge of the family.

Anne (27m 21s):
Yeah. And there’s like a crazy storm that’s about to happen. She’s watching the weather report and she’s like stirring some like, I don’t know what she’s stirring. Don’t either. But she’s like, it looks like the fork is like floating above the bowl and she’s like pretending to stir. I’m like, she couldn’t, she have like actually stirred. I don’t know. It looked, it looked really funny. But shek was supposed to be like shocked by the impending storm. So Yes. So, okay. So what else do you have?

Ashley (27m 45s):
Okay, so she runs to the toy store where her sister works to let her know because the phones are out and I guess she has to tell everybody there’s a blizzard coming. Yep. So then we get Keanu who also works there. He is so cute in this like so handsome and dreamy. But his acting Woo boy.

Anne (28m 1s):
I mean I, okay. I love Keanu Reeves. Me too. I think the acting is like, it feels like him.

Ashley (28m 6s):
It feels like the perfect, like if you were to make fun of Keanu Reeves acting. Exactly. This is what it would be.

Anne (28m 11s):
Exactly. I

Ashley (28m 12s):
Love this line.

9 (28m 14s):
My Jeep’s got four wheel drive. I’ll take you both home.

Ashley (28m 18s):
Except spoiler alert, not fine.

Anne (28m 21s):
Also not a Jeep.

Ashley (28m 23s):
Is

Anne (28m 23s):
It not? It’s not a Jeep. Oh, that’s hilarious. Not branded Jeep. So it’s one of those things where it’s like tissue, the generic, the Kleenex. Yeah. Yep. Anyway, I’m sure someone who’s listening is like, yeah, I I clocked that. Yeah.

Ashley (28m 36s):
But look at you coming through with the car info. Always. I mean that is, that will never be me. So good job.

Anne (28m 40s):
I had a little help there.

Ashley (28m 43s):
How do you feel about this really cool casual sexual harassment by the toy store owner? Hate to her sister. Disgusting. Like

Anne (28m 50s):
Some of the things that

Ashley (28m 51s):
He says in this, like, this is a children’s movie, what are we doing? Yes. What are we doing here? It’s real gross.

Anne (28m 58s):
It’s,

Ashley (28m 59s):
And Drew stands up to defend her sister and she has that classic little smirk that she would sometimes have in movies. Yes. You know the one I’m talking about where she looks like she’s about to start laughing.

Anne (29m 10s):
Absolutely.

10 (29m 13s):
Don’t you talk to Mary like that.

Anne (29m 15s):
I like that. After that boss is like, what the heck is that? And then the boss and the sister, they start like loudly fighting in the middle of the toy star. Yeah. Like I’m like okay.

Ashley (29m 29s):
But I did appreciate that the sister was like calling him out for his totally disgusting remarks.

Anne (29m 34s):
Totally. Like, it is great.

Ashley (29m 35s):
And this carries over when spoiler, when we get ahead to Toyland and this carries over where this older man is just making these really inappropriate remarks about the sister who’s like 20.

Anne (29m 44s):
Yes. Older man. And it’s actually the same person. We’ll talk about how it’s, this is another Wizard of Oz similarity. I love when Drew makes an announcement on the toy store thing and like warning people about the impending storm.

11 (29m 59s):
Excuse me, everybody I just heard on tv, there’s gonna be a major snow storm hitting Cincinnati any minute. And Christmas Eve, he should not go home while you still can.

Ashley (30m 9s):
And then they all panic and like run. It’s so unrealistic.

Anne (30m 12s):
It’s like fruit teddy bears for any purchase over $75. Like trying to get people to stay. It’s so silly.

Ashley (30m 20s):
All right. So they get in the car, which is not a Jeep apparently. And did you notice like before they start singing, Drew’s like staring into space and looks like she’s gonna puke for no reason. It’s so random. Yes.

Anne (30m 31s):
She just looks like very serious and like, ugh. Like

Ashley (30m 34s):
She’s nauseous or something. I don’t know why was going on. Maybe she drank too much the night before.

Anne (30m 38s):
Oh no. I have a feeling the car is supposed to be really bumpy. So I feel like maybe she put, she’s supposed to look uncomfortable

Ashley (30m 44s):
But then she snaps out of it. Yeah. It’s weird.

Anne (30m 47s):
That’s because they start singing the song.

Ashley (30m 49s):
Oh god. The song. Probably one of the more, most known parts of this movie is this weird ass song about Cincinnati where they live and how wonderful it is.

12 (30m 59s):
Cincinnati

8 (31m 0s):
The best town Ohio say

12 (31m 4s):
At first they called it but Cincinnati, they named it Cincinnati.

Anne (31m 11s):
But the song seems to like fix a lot of things. Spoiler alert.

Ashley (31m 15s):
Although it’s a magical song.

Anne (31m 17s):
Yeah. But like they’re, you know, they’re driving on these rough roads. It looks, it’s really funny. The scenes on the inside, the car is like clearly on a set being shaken around. It’s super funny. And then I wrote a note, does she die? It’s, it’s kind of a joke because she like falls out of the car. Right.

Ashley (31m 32s):
And she flies out of the car. Yeah. On her sled. Oh that’s

Anne (31m 35s):
Right.

Ashley (31m 36s):
Goes right into a tree and the whole thing goes black as if she died. Yeah.

Anne (31m 41s):
Oh well I, I guess we were making a parallel to Wizard of Oz, but we should also make a parallel to 51st states. Oh,

Ashley (31m 47s):
I like it. Yeah. Good one. Good one. It wasn’t

Anne (31m 51s):
A cow, it was a tree. And she’s fine. But she does have some like delirium. So let’s go to Toyland.

Ashley (31m 58s):
Okay, so she’s floating through the sky on her sled

Anne (32m 3s):
Of

Ashley (32m 3s):
Course. Literally flying down from the clouds. Yeah. And she’s flying over Toyland, which it’s kind of amazing. They built this actual set in Germany. So the whole thing is like a practical set, sort of like

Anne (32m 15s):
A, is it still there? Back

Ashley (32m 16s):
Lot. Oh my god. Imagine. Imagine if like on Google Earth you could find the remnants of the like cookie factory. Oh

Anne (32m 22s):
My God. Someone let us know.

Ashley (32m 24s):
Okay. So there’s all these weird creepy people in animal suits. I hate it. Like it’s all like heads that don’t have any like, you know, movement on them. The faces are just blank. There’s like all kinds of weird animals, which I don’t really understand. It’s Toyland. I don’t get it. There’s a raggedy Ann did you catch her?

Anne (32m 42s):
I don’t think I did. She’s

Ashley (32m 43s):
So scary. Oh God, she’s real bad. She’s really scary. And she meets our quote unquote chubby buddy. Yep. Georgie Porgie. And he gives her a cookie that was just hanging out inside his hat on his sweaty head and she eats it. Okay.

Anne (32m 59s):
No questions asked. But we know, you know Drew personally, she kisses her star. She may or may not have kissed Lionel’s marking at the cemetery. So she likes to put things in her mouth that have been in questionable places. So yeah, in this whole surreal portion, which feels very Wizard of Oz because she’s just had this accident and now she’s suddenly in this like land.

Ashley (33m 23s):
And in the land there’s people that look like people in her normal life that she doesn’t make note of that they’re the same people.

Anne (33m 29s):
Yeah. They’re literally the same people. It also has like a Elgin Wonderland vibe to it.

Ashley (33m 34s):
Yeah, I thought that too.

Anne (33m 35s):
Even one of the guys says, who are you?

Ashley (33m 38s):
Weird. I didn’t catch that. That’s amazing.

Anne (33m 40s):
Yeah. Pretty amazing. And then Drew says,

13 (33m 44s):
Boy for talent looks like so much fun. This is pretty strange stuff.

Ashley (33m 48s):
And she’s like skipping in a circle. So awkward. Okay, so there’s a wedding happening. So Mary and Jack, no I’m sorry she’s not marrying Jack. They’re together, they’re in love. But she’s gonna marry the villain. Farby Barnaby because her shitty mom is making her marry this gross older villain guy. Because otherwise they’re gonna lose their house.

Anne (34m 11s):
They’re gonna lose, she’s gonna lose her shoe.

Ashley (34m 13s):
Oh yeah, she, she’s the old woman who lives in a shoe. Thank you. Let’s be, let’s be clear. And I love she, you know, I heard your character Drew’s character’s called Lisa. I feel like we’re gonna say Drew the whole time. But yes, she calls this woman out for being a shitty mom

13 (34m 28s):
And Mrs. Ha, you should be shame forcing your poor daughter to go live in a bowling ball just to pay your mortgage

Anne (34m 38s):
Right away. Basically in the movie. The music is pretty hilarious. But it gets even more hilarious when they’re in Toyland.

Ashley (34m 43s):
It’s bad eighties bad. I don’t

Anne (34m 45s):
Think it’s bad. I think it’s actually pretty good. Yeah, I think it’s good. Like it’s like well done music and I think it works for the weirdness of the film.

Ashley (34m 53s):
Okay.

Anne (34m 53s):
Because the movies, well movies, cheesy music,

Ashley (34m 57s):
Let’s put it this way. The eighties had a really low standard for entertainment. They just did. Like there’s amazing movies that came outta the eighties. I’m not saying overall, but like there are some really bad things that just were like, yeah, this is good enough. Let’s do it. Yep, yep. Since we’re talking about music, Drew’s character stops the wedding somehow. It doesn’t really make sense to me how her like interjecting stops everything. But it does. I love that. She says right before she stops it she says,

13 (35m 28s):
But Mary’s so young and pretty, she can’t possibly marry a pitties creature like that. I told you

Ashley (35m 35s):
So weird.

Anne (35m 36s):
That’s the only explanation.

Ashley (35m 38s):
The dialogue is so weird. Yeah, right. Not that he’s a creep.

Anne (35m 42s):
Yeah. Not that he’s a creep and evil. Like it’s just about how how pretty And

Ashley (35m 46s):
He’s ugly. Yeah.

Anne (35m 48s):
Oh

Ashley (35m 48s):
God. So yeah this, so they all do this big weird ass song celebrating her, which is again very Wizard of Oz after Dorothy Kills the Witch. Yep. And I just was laughing at like one of the lyrics I heard.

14 (35m 60s):
Let’s hear it. For the folk who love freedom, we need,

Ashley (36m 7s):
What

Anne (36m 9s):
Are they talking about? Americans? I know.

Ashley (36m 10s):
I don’t know. And then Drew dude’s like a really impressive round off. Like if you don’t know what that is, it’s like a cartwheel that you land on both feet. Impressive. Every once in a while she’ll like pull some sort of acrobatic or dance move out where I’m like, what? Yeah, like you can do the splits. You can like she can do a lot of things that she doesn’t act like she can do. Oh

Anne (36m 29s):
Absolutely. I’m just gonna say this. Probably say it a bunch of times. ’cause apparently I’m shallow. Drew’s so cute in this.

Ashley (36m 36s):
She is really cute and, and I kind of noticed, I don’t know if I like was imagining this and I doubt they filmed it in chronological order, but I noticed like towards the end she looks older. Like

Anne (36m 46s):
I agree

Ashley (36m 47s):
You did you notice that too? Like her face is kind of thinned out and like she just looks a little bit older.

Anne (36m 52s):
Well how long did they film this? It was like a few months.

Ashley (36m 54s):
A few months. Yeah.

Anne (36m 55s):
So she might’ve been going through some stuff and plus when you’re 11,

Ashley (36m 58s):
Like yeah you’re changing a lot. You’re

Anne (36m 60s):
Changing a lot. So she probably genuinely is like, I feel like I, I kept thinking about Drew as a person. Yeah. You know, during this. So I’m like, oh that like not just her growing but also like she’s experiencing like a different country for the first time. It sounds like she was dating a 15-year-old. She sounds like, you know, was was partying while she was there. So there was some stuff happening in her life that might have impacted how mature she looked.

Ashley (37m 26s):
Here’s a positive note. I do like the cookie factory set. I think it’s really cute. It’s cute. It’s confusing at first what the plan is. I figured out later but So the bad guy in his like goons who I can’t stand

Anne (37m 38s):
That look like Nosferatu.

Ashley (37m 40s):
Yeah, they do. You had a good call. They’re throwing all these boxes of cookies into a cellar door. He had to, I had to put it that way. And they’re like of course doing it as slowly as possible by being all like comical about it.

Anne (37m 54s):
So, but also, yeah, they like set up a ramp of a table and then start like sliding them into there. They’re

Ashley (37m 60s):
Like hitting ’em with baseball bats.

Anne (38m 2s):
The one other thing I thought was really funny and I was like called it as I was watching it, even though I didn’t remember this, one of the goons is like putting a cake carefully into a box and then Oh the box. Yes. So tough. But it feels very like appropriate. Like that feels like eighties comedy. Yeah.

Ashley (38m 20s):
Yeah. Eighties comedy quote unquote comedy. Yeah. Okay. So then Drew’s meeting her mom in this world who’s the old lady who lives in a shoe. She’s introducing all her kids and I was just cracking up ’cause she’s like introducing all these nursery rhyme characters, which is kind of fun. Yeah. And then she like has like five more and she goes, I forget who this one is. And then she never introduces the rest. So I’m like, I guess they ran out of ideas,

Anne (38m 45s):
But we’re also maybe supposed to believe that she doesn’t really care about them. Yeah,

Ashley (38m 47s):
She is. She does play this like absent mindedness. Really. Well she’s pretty hilarious in it. Yes. And then I had to listen to this part three times in a row. Drew kind of flubbed a line.

13 (38m 57s):
Mrs. Hubbard, I think the same as your Toy Master. When two young people love each other, they should be allowed to be together.

Ashley (39m 4s):
So again, it’s like, yeah. Did they really like take their time and refilm things and they were just like, this is good enough. Yeah.

Anne (39m 10s):
I thought it was a typo in your notes, which is really funny how you explained it around this time in the film. But she’s trying to convince this woman who is her mom in the other alternate universe. She says

13 (39m 24s):
At a mature man of the world, like Mr. Barnaby, she be free to marry a more elegant, glamorous woman of the world such as yourself.

Ashley (39m 34s):
She’s like, okay, if this weird lady’s gonna marry off her daughter, maybe I can make her be interested in him instead. Yes. Oh my God. Like how about just nobody goes with this creep.

Anne (39m 43s):
Absolutely. I think that’s when she says she’s gonna sell her children. Yeah. At that point. Yes.

Ashley (39m 47s):
Lovely. Alright. So they get into these little cars, which are really quite cute.

Anne (39m 53s):
They’re very cute.

Ashley (39m 54s):
Yeah. At first I was like, oh, the flower on them. Like the way it’s stenciled kind of reminded me of the old flower films logo. Yeah. When I saw them side by side, I was like, eh, not really. But I still liked it. The

Anne (40m 4s):
Way it does is that the petals are kind of detached. It’s like very stylized daisy. Not a realistic daisy. Yeah. You know, so cute. I love how the cars sound when they’re moving. Also, I love how much they show them riding around in these cars. It’s so cute. Especially

Ashley (40m 23s):
’cause the set is actually quite small. Like you wouldn’t need a car to go anywhere. It’s like two blocks and We’ll, we’ll get into that later on. Yes. At first I was so confused ’cause I’m like the bad guy’s talking about how millions of missing cookies and like I was like, who’s, who are the customers? Like are they sending these to the real world? But then I guess it’s just the creepy teddy bears in town that eat them millions.

Anne (41m 4s):
Well they, yeah. They said something about like, well how are we gonna feed the teddy bears? So ridiculous

Ashley (41m 12s):
As if the those mouths on those teddy bears open. Gimme a break. Yes.

Anne (41m 17s):
There’s a point when, when Drew encounters the bad guys and I don’t really know what’s happening, but in the cookie factory,

15 (41m 26s):
You again cin, he waley out the door or into the flower grinder, which

13 (41m 33s):
Shall it be, I think maybe out the door sounds better.

Anne (41m 39s):
So great.

Ashley (41m 41s):
Oh man. Okay. Then they go visit the toy master, this mysterious man and they go into his little workshop, which I found was like kind of underwhelming personally. But anyway, I

Anne (41m 53s):
Thought it was pretty cool actually. Okay.

Ashley (41m 55s):
You like all those little, what are those called? Those spinny things? Do you know?

Anne (41m 59s):
I know. Was it kind of like a mobile or was it like something that’s standing up?

Ashley (42m 2s):
No, there’s a name for them. It’s like actually a Christmas thing and there’s one in a Christmas vacation. Has an Eddie like touches in all the little like pieces fall apart.

Anne (42m 12s):
Oh, that sounds familiar. Yeah.

Ashley (42m 14s):
All right. Anyway, there’s a lot of those in there, but did you notice that there’s like these two elves in there who don’t move their mouths, but there’s like overdubbed dialogue for them, but they’re not, they’re not speaking. It’s

Anne (42m 25s):
So weird. I didn’t notice There are like, I did one thing, I did notice, since you’re mentioning like the sound, I feel like all the audio seems like it was like rerecorded later. Yeah. Like it seems adrd.

Ashley (42m 35s):
Yeah. And you know what’s interesting is that when the actress Jill was on that podcast when she, this wasn’t Drew relevant, so I didn’t note it, but she says that when they did one of the songs, like recorded it like she wasn’t really prepared and they were like, don’t worry, we’re gonna like rerecord it in a studio later. Okay. And then they didn’t.

Anne (42m 53s):
Oh no. She was like

Ashley (42m 54s):
Mortified with the take.

Anne (42m 56s):
Oh no.

Ashley (42m 58s):
Yeah.

Anne (42m 60s):
They were like, ah, that’s too much work. Yeah,

Ashley (43m 2s):
Good enough. Drew like randomly. She’s like, what’s in the that behind that door? Even though like, why would you say that? Yeah. And there’s all these creepy toy soldiers who have like, like frozen faces and the toy master says something about them being wonderful and Drew’s like,

13 (43m 19s):
Oh, you’re right. They are wonderful. Really?

Anne (43m 26s):
I love when the toy master says to Drew that the wooden toys just aren’t popular anymore. And she like makes a little serious kind of sad face.

Ashley (43m 34s):
Aw. And so basically the bad guys like framed Jack for all these missing cookies and the way that things work in this town is very confusing. So the judge guy, I don’t know what he is, he like has him arrested and they go break him out of jail and then they put the judge in the jail cell so they can run away.

Anne (43m 54s):
Yes. And then after that happens, Drew says to to the judge,

13 (44m 0s):
I’m lucky, I’m sorry sir, but that’s the way the cookie came doing crumbles. Ha ha. Little joke

Anne (44m 7s):
The way she does. Ha. Okay, what happens next?

Ashley (44m 12s):
Okay. I don’t remember how, but somehow Jack gets captured by the bad guys.

Anne (44m 16s):
I do remember how he, they Oh, open a trap door in the cookie shop. That’s right. Because they’re trying to figure out who stole the cookies.

Ashley (44m 23s):
They found out that the, of course the chubby guy found some cookies on the ground. So they’re like eating them. This is evidence. I’m like, well, cookies on the ground in the cookie factory makes sense to me. But okay. Yeah.

Anne (44m 34s):
They’re like, where did you find them? Because they might help us. I love that whole part. ’cause then they’re like trying to find where the cookies were.

Ashley (44m 38s):
Yeah. It’s so bad.

Anne (44m 40s):
Yeah. It’s, it’s, it’s, I was gonna say, it’s so good,

Ashley (44m 42s):
So bad. It’s good. And then the goons. So again like, what’d you say? They look like nasra too. Yeah. The way that they are acting and the like slapstick again, quote unquote comedy. It reminds me so much of what I was just talking about in Con Sawyer. Yeah. Where there’s like the dumb little minions. They’re always dumb and they’re always like slapstick and it’s like, yeah. Was such a thing in the eighties. I don’t understand it. Like how was that funny? It was such a like a trope. It’s just cracks me up.

Anne (45m 13s):
Yeah. That they would be like a sidekick.

Ashley (45m 15s):
Yeah. Always. Like the bad guy always picks these like two dumb asses to do all his things for

Anne (45m 20s):
Him. Yeah. And you can just imagine them like bumping heads. Yes. You know, like

Ashley (45m 24s):
Literally I’ll just say it now because later on I don’t feel like in the beginning this is there, but later on all these cartoony sound effects happen every time that they’re on because they absolutely, they’re just like hitting trees and things are bumping in them in the Oh my god. All right. And

Anne (45m 41s):
They’re unnecessarily driving cars around.

Ashley (45m 47s):
I fast forwarded through the villains song ’cause like we only have so much time guys.

Anne (45m 52s):
Absolutely. You noted how useless the toy master seems because they’re kind of like, can’t you help in any way? There’s all this stuff

Ashley (45m 59s):
Happening. Yeah. They keep going to him. He’s supposed to be powerful and stuff and he is just like, oh I’m not, I can’t really do anything.

Anne (46m 6s):
Yes. But he’s like got this calm demeanor that’s kind of like, oh

Ashley (46m 9s):
Yeah. At one point I think Drew even says like, he’s not gonna be able to help us. He’s a pacifist or something weird like that. Oh does she? Yeah. It’s weird. Oh my

Anne (46m 16s):
God. I love my favorite line in that kind of part is Drew says to him, well

13 (46m 22s):
For instance, don’t you have the power to turn Barnaby into a, a windup pussycat or something. I mean, I don’t think you realize how evil he is.

Ashley (46m 30s):
He probably could. He does have a jar of all the evil that he’s collected in the world. What?

Anne (46m 35s):
Oh God. That’s such a

Ashley (46m 36s):
Weird plot point. Yeah. They go to rescue Jack Drew says for like the 50th time that she’s not a child. What

13 (46m 43s):
The hell? That child, I’m not a child.

Anne (46m 47s):
She says that so many times in this. It’s, it’s a theme for sure.

Ashley (46m 50s):
Yeah. And you said you were kind of thinking about real life Drew every time she said it, which is like definitely an interesting layer.

Anne (46m 57s):
Yeah, there’s, there’s something at the end that feels very like, I’m like, it’s almost heart wrenching that I, I was like just thinking they’re talking to Drew, not to Lisa. Yeah. She says something to Barnaby. I don’t even remember what actually is happening at this point.

15 (47m 11s):
I will be master of Toyland.

13 (47m 13s):
You are the monster of Toyland. Barnaby. How could you ever wish evil the most wonderful place that ever existed. You’re insane.

Ashley (47m 20s):
Well she has like a whole little speech,

Anne (47m 23s):
Which is like a little bit like not really but like Olive.

Ashley (47m 27s):
Oh my favorite favorite.

Anne (47m 30s):
Actually Lisa does have a little bit of olive in her.

Ashley (47m 33s):
I love that.

Anne (47m 34s):
Yeah.

Ashley (47m 35s):
And then like, oh yeah. So that’s probably when the bad guys like tie them up in the Toy Master’s workshop, tie them up, like barely put a rope around them. It’s so silly.

Anne (47m 44s):
Yeah. Not the most effective time. No, it’s

Ashley (47m 46s):
Very funny. Funny. And then there’s this creepy gross little bird thing during the whole movie that’s like Barnaby’s other

Anne (47m 52s):
Pet, I

Ashley (47m 52s):
Guess they call him troll log. And he is so creepy and gross. I hate it.

Anne (47m 58s):
He’s really creepy and gross. But when he like starts to peck at

Ashley (48m 1s):
Oh God

Anne (48m 2s):
Through character and then that, that’s what gets her like released. It’s really funny ’cause it’s like his, he’s supposed to be like a bad guy, but he literally pokes off the rope

Ashley (48m 11s):
And then the toy master paints over his eye and I was laughing ’cause that’s what he does earlier with for the elves. They’re like, toy Master, toy Master help with this toy. And he like paints eyes. I’m like, that’s all he can do.

Anne (48m 23s):
That’s his only role. And guide people to, you know, he is like, he seems like he’s a little bit like a fairy godmother. A little bit for

Ashley (48m 31s):
Drew. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Anne (48m 32s):
I hadn’t really thought about that before, but it’s just like he’s got like this army of, he’s got like the tools, you know, but not the know-how something

Ashley (48m 40s):
Like that. He’s like, it can only take you so far.

Anne (48m 44s):
Yes. Let’s talk about that jar of evil.

Ashley (48m 46s):
Oh my God. Right. So, so the whole gang ends up in the layer. ’cause they all fall through different trap doors that all lead to one place in the bowling ball Of course. And then Uhoh here comes that jar of evil air. So he, the villain like spreads it out and they all start turning into trolls slash monsters.

Anne (49m 7s):
Yep.

Ashley (49m 8s):
Keanu was like making me laugh so hard in this part. And then our solution that Drew comes up with miraculously just sing the Cincinnati song everybody and you’ll, you’ll not be monsters anymore. And they all know the words even though they’re not technically the same people that were singing it. Yeah. In the real world.

Anne (49m 28s):
Oh yeah, good point.

Ashley (49m 30s):
But I don’t understand the like propaganda for the city. As we mentioned before. Maybe one of the writers is from there.

Anne (49m 37s):
I don’t know. But one of my favorite things about that part is Lisa. Yeah. Is not impacted by like, she’s not turning,

13 (49m 49s):
Nothing’s happening to me. I guess I’m mute because I’ve friend Cincinnati. Yes.

Anne (49m 55s):
And it’s funny ’cause I was like, wait, is she supposed to be acting the same way as they’re like, I honestly thought that it was like bad acting for a second. Yeah. And then it was like, I even wrote in my notes like seemingly not impacted by the green fog.

Ashley (50m 8s):
Oh because she’s from Cincinnati dad. Yeah, of

Anne (50m 11s):
Course. Of course. That makes you immune.

Ashley (50m 13s):
And you can definitely tell when she starts singing that it’s a woman. It’s not Drew in any shape or or form.

Anne (50m 19s):
Yeah. And then the last line of that part was,

13 (50m 23s):
I told you Cincinnati was a great place.

Ashley (50m 27s):
Yeah. It’s funny, before it it started. I was like, oh God, I hate the part when they’re all fake that they’re monsters to get out. Oh, it’s hilarious. Oh God. I was like, cr cringe, cringe, cringe. And then when it started I was like, wait, this is actually funny. Like I, I remembered it being like secondhand embarrassment but I, I was cracking up at Drew.

Anne (50m 44s):
My God. And then we get another great line

0 (50m 48s):
Master master three fours for our wonderful master.

Ashley (50m 56s):
And then did you notice when they come out of the little cell that Drew looks at one of the bad guys and does a cat hiss? Yeah. And it was like,

Anne (51m 4s):
That’s so true.

Ashley (51m 5s):
Exactly how she does it now. I can’t think of like an example, but she definitely does it a lot. Oh

Anne (51m 11s):
Yeah. She like does it on her show and stuff. Yeah. Like yeah, absolutely. I was like, oh it was amazing. It’s perfect.

Ashley (51m 16s):
Never changed Drew. Yeah,

Anne (51m 17s):
Yeah. Please never changed.

Ashley (51m 19s):
So then there’s like this super drawn out escape from this underground layer. Oh my God. It just felt like it was going on forever. I don’t know if you had that feeling too, but I was impressed with the set. I was like, wow, they really built this whole thing. Yeah, yeah. But I was laughing. So there’s a part where Keanu and Drew get on a rope swing to get across like a Oh yes. What would you call that? To get from one cliff to the other, whatever. Yeah. But it just cracked me up. It was reminding me of how when he came on her show, she told a story about on her 16th birthday, he like walked into the club and took her on a motorcycle ride randomly. Yes. And then her little sounds that she made, I was just cracking up thinking of 16-year-old her and him on a motorcycle.

Anne (52m 2s):
I had a similar thought ’cause I was thinking, not like necessarily about that part, but I was thinking about like, oh like five years later. Yeah. He rode on a motorcycle.

Ashley (52m 10s):
Very different ride.

Anne (52m 11s):
Yes.

0 (52m 13s):
Ready? Yeah.

Ashley (52m 18s):
It’s so weird.

Anne (52m 19s):
Yeah. And then we have the car chase.

Ashley (52m 22s):
Oh yeah. So, which we’ve been teasing a little bit. The big climax, the car chase where they literally just drive in a big circle. I

Anne (52m 31s):
Was like, is this a bumper car? It kind

Ashley (52m 33s):
Of was bumper cars. I totally had the same thought.

Anne (52m 36s):
But then I was like, this is kind of funny. Like, I was just trying to think that, are they going fast? Are they going really slow? It’s like pretty slow. I wrote in my notes, they seem kind of dangerous, but it’s only because like if they actually hit each other, there

Ashley (52m 48s):
Is one part where two of them hit each other and I was a little like

Anne (52m 53s):
Yeah. And there’s another great line Drew says to them, like, while they’re chasing around, I swear she says Ggo.

Ashley (53m 6s):
I think you’re right. And honestly like the dialogue in this is so odd. Some of it is so formal. There’s a lot of You must, we must. Yeah. And yeah, then there’s the weird stuff like that where I’m like, what? That’s not a thing People said,

Anne (53m 18s):
Yeah,

Ashley (53m 20s):
I already mentioned this before, but this is where those cartoon sound effects on the goons like really kick into high gear. Oh boy.

Anne (53m 27s):
And it sounds, but it sounds like so all of it’s so silly,

Ashley (53m 32s):
So slapstick.

Anne (53m 33s):
But even though like the, the creatures I say I’m saying creatures ’cause they really are like creatures. Like the, yeah. I don’t know if this is that part where like they’re releasing, maybe that’s a little bit later, but like

Ashley (53m 42s):
When they’re coming out from Y

Anne (53m 44s):
Yeah. I’m like, are they just like made of trash and fabric? Like I was just like, I don’t,

Ashley (53m 49s):
I bet they were like roots, like underground roots. I don’t know. But creatures is the best way to put

Anne (53m 55s):
It. I guess they’re more rootlike for sure. Like organic. But they’re so creepy. They

Ashley (53m 60s):
Are scary. I totally, and I, I told you that little bird thing really creeps me out too. The troll log.

Anne (54m 6s):
Yeah, it is. I mean it’s all pretty creepy. I think I can laugh past it now, but maybe when I’ve watched it before, like years and years ago, I was just like, ugh. And having to like have pictures of them in my collection, I’m like,

Ashley (54m 20s):
Merry Christmas.

Anne (54m 22s):
Yeah.

0 (54m 40s):
There’s

Anne (54m 41s):
A part where they’re back in the toy masters

Ashley (54m 44s):
Once again looking to him for help. Even though he is like, I can’t do anything.

Anne (54m 49s):
But it’s him who says

16 (54m 51s):
There is one person who was never really a child life, made her grow up too fast.

Anne (54m 59s):
And I couldn’t help but like immediately think that there’s no way Drew didn’t feel like this related to her life.

Ashley (55m 6s):
I know the wild thing is that you can tell I was getting really checked out by this part because I was just like, oh I can’t take this movie anymore. So I didn’t really think about it. But you’re so right when you watch it with that view, it’s definitely like, oh this is sad.

Anne (55m 18s):
Yeah. And if you, if you look at Drew’s face and think of it as Drew having these feelings, it’s very interesting.

13 (55m 26s):
I guess life just made me grow up too fast.

Anne (55m 29s):
Be one. Say have like a Wizard of Oz sort of

Ashley (55m 32s):
Big time.

Anne (55m 33s):
Like, so Lisa Drew’s character is supposed to kind of find her inner child and

13 (55m 39s):
Yes, I kept my teddy and I miss him.

17 (55m 43s):
Then you do still remember how important toys can be. Lisa

18 (55m 46s):
Say that you really remember Lisa.

19 (55m 50s):
Remember Lisa say that you remember, remember

Ashley (55m 53s):
Believe in the toys. Toys Lisa believe in them

Anne (55m 57s):
And I couldn’t help. It’s like there’s no place like home. So it’s like it totally is. Yeah. You know, like that whole part is very like, come on, you have all the power inside you kind of thing.

Ashley (56m 6s):
Yeah. Oh, and don’t forget the Toy Master song. As soon as you started singing, I was like, oh no, this is rough.

Anne (56m 12s):
Oh my God. The creepy thing

Ashley (56m 13s):
Is like Keanu’s voice is not very good. His voice is not very good. And then once again we get poor Drew being the one that’s dubbed just like in everyone says I love you my God. Like hers couldn’t have been that bad. That

Anne (56m 24s):
Bad. Exactly.

Ashley (56m 26s):
But yeah, I was like, oh my God. Another song where there’s like an old man singing to little child Drew and touching her face. Like why is this a thing that I’m noticing happened a lot in the eighties. I don’t like it. I think

Anne (56m 38s):
It’s supposed to represent some kind of like, you know Fatherly mother. Yes, exactly. Like, but it’s also like, ugh. But I, I was noticing Drew’s expression during the song and I felt like she looked genuinely sad.

Ashley (56m 52s):
Aw. She’s like, I wanna go get wasted guys. I don’t wanna talk about how I’m not a kid because I’m not a kid.

Anne (56m 58s):
Guys, this is so boring. I’m not, again not. And then, you know, she kind of is like, I’m still a child. I got my teddy bear and I miss him.

Ashley (57m 7s):
It’s so weirdly formal. Again, it’s, I kept Teddy.

Anne (57m 11s):
That whole part has this both cheese and sort of real, you know, real life connection. Yeah. And then Drew starts the war. I was like, it’s

Ashley (57m 23s):
Kind of weird that this movie is ending on like goons and cannons. ’cause here come all She like lets all the toy soldiers out. ’cause she believes in them now.

Anne (57m 31s):
Yes. I guess they don’t even really show them shooting.

Ashley (57m 35s):
They do. That’s why I was like sort of surprised they don’t show like

Anne (57m 39s):
Anybody getting hurt. Yeah.

Ashley (57m 41s):
But they show me shooting.

Anne (57m 43s):
I mean I, I’ve been watching Game of Thrones so I’m a little bit like, this is like a Game of Thrones and Babes of Toyland.

Ashley (57m 50s):
Okay. So obviously Good triumphs over evil and all the creepy creatures like basically get put behind a fence and they’re like

Anne (57m 60s):
Banished. Yep. Oh they’re banished to the forest of the night or whatever it’s called. Yeah. It’s so weird.

Ashley (58m 6s):
So they’re right there still. Yep.

Anne (58m 8s):
Okay.

Ashley (58m 9s):
And then of course Jack and Mary get to get married, which is cute. They do cute chemistry. Those too.

Anne (58m 14s):
They do very, very cute. I thought, I mean they’re both like adorable. Anyway, the Keanu and the actor Jill adorable.

Ashley (58m 23s):
Yeah. I was like, I didn’t understand when she was walking up the aisle why he had to have his back to her. Is that a thing? I’ve never seen that He kept like trying to turn around and georgie’s like, no, no, turn her. You’ve gotta keep your back to her. I was like, what

Anne (58m 35s):
Didn’t, I didn’t even notice that at one point Drew seems to be like the flower girl and kind of a ring bearer and the ring pillow is a cookie.

Ashley (58m 44s):
Yeah. That was cute. And I did like that she had her flower wreath. I really think that was like a sweet little touch. Oh yes. Finally she’s got on something a little different.

Anne (58m 53s):
Yes. There were a couple times where she was like adjacent. I think that there’s a parade earlier where she’s like by like a flower arch. Yeah,

Ashley (58m 60s):
I know that

Anne (59m 0s):
Too. Then she has the wreath at the end.

Ashley (59m 2s):
Yeah, that was cute.

Anne (59m 3s):
Very cute.

Ashley (59m 4s):
And then Surprise, here comes Santa. It’s really the toy master. He was Santa all along question mark. And the reindeer are wooden cutouts. Huh.

Anne (59m 15s):
And somehow that works.

Ashley (59m 17s):
And there’s two elves that that don’t talk. Those weird elves, that mouth the mouse don’t move. And that’s about all the Santa kind of like, I don’t get, I don’t Is he Santa? Like is he, or is he like Santa’s helper? I don’t get it.

Anne (59m 29s):
I think he’s supposed to be Santa. Okay.

Ashley (59m 31s):
I think so

Anne (59m 32s):
Too. I mean, I don’t know. He is got a whole set of reindeer. You know, even if they are wood cutouts, he’s got all the a Coutre ma of Santa.

Ashley (59m 39s):
You’re right. He does have the like the red and white like santa robes and Yeah. Yes. And J’s just like, oh okay. Sure. Like there’s not really,

Anne (59m 49s):
It’s weird. No question.

Ashley (59m 51s):
Yeah. And then did you notice in Dolan’s crowd there’s a lion that’s wearing a football jersey?

Anne (59m 57s):
Yes. I

Ashley (59m 57s):
Was like, is this more weird Cincinnati shit?

Anne (59m 60s):
I, what’s something, I mean I kind of tried to do a quick search ’cause I saw your note and I couldn’t find anything that that confirmed that. But I’m like, what, what is that toy? It’s like there’s just a random mascot in the Yeah.

Ashley (1h 0m 11s):
Someone has to tell us if that’s like Cincinnati’s colors or something. Yeah.

Anne (1h 0m 15s):
I mean they also, I think I mentioned this before, but they talk about baseball player Pete Rose like so many times. I think there was like two different moments where they’re like talking about Pete Rose. And I’m like, okay. Like I don’t, I don’t get it.

Ashley (1h 0m 28s):
What, what is this? Yes,

Anne (1h 0m 31s):
Yes.

Ashley (1h 0m 32s):
All right. And then of course we’re back home. Don’t worry. She’s just been dreaming. I don’t know. It’s very Wizard of Oz again. But yeah, she’s like wakes up on the couch. I like, they’re like, oh, we’re so worried about you after you flew out of a moving vehicle and hit a tree. We just had you on the couch here hoping you’d wake up.

Anne (1h 0m 50s):
And she looks just fine. No

Ashley (1h 0m 52s):
Medical attention.

Anne (1h 0m 54s):
Absolutely not. But

Ashley (1h 0m 55s):
Yeah, then it starts getting shameless. The Wizard of Oz. She’s pretty much doing. And you were there and you were there.

Anne (1h 1m 1s):
One other thing I wanted to compare to Wizard of Oz is the T Trello’s eye is like, it has visions like the witches crystal ball. Oh

Ashley (1h 1m 11s):
Yeah. Like the villain can watch everybody through it. You’re right. Oh my God.

Anne (1h 1m 15s):
It’s just so, okay, so summary. This is Wizard of Oz on like psychedelics

Ashley (1h 1m 23s):
Eighties cocaine and really bad quality.

Anne (1h 1m 26s):
I mean, and it’s possible. Dear Little Drew was also almost cocaine. Almost.

Ashley (1h 1m 31s):
I’m just kidding. Just a couple months later, not quite yet. And then we end on her weird speech that like sums it all up.

13 (1h 1m 40s):
Oh my, the tree is so beautiful. As beautiful as all the things the Toy Master taught me. Oh, he

20 (1h 1m 47s):
Must be a very wise man.

13 (1h 1m 50s):
He was, he taught me that it was in our hearts that we must stay young and try to be good and above all we must believe. And then we’ll always have a Merry Christmas and everything. Won’t we Always. And always. And always.

Ashley (1h 2m 8s):
Okay. What, what? I don’t understand.

Anne (1h 2m 11s):
But honestly, like overall, I, I left at, at the end of the film I was like, okay, weird as hell. I like was like, I feel like I need to watch it it again. Like,

Ashley (1h 2m 20s):
Oh boy, really? I was like, that’s it. Never again. Every time I put myself through this, I’m like, why did I watch this? It’s so bad. This is my grand finale for Babes.

Anne (1h 2m 31s):
You’re like, I’ve done the podcast on it. Yeah. That’s like, I can put that away.

Ashley (1h 2m 34s):
My work here. It’s done. I think

Anne (1h 2m 36s):
I was just, I’m just like, Drew is is such a like weird point in her career. Yes.

Ashley (1h 2m 42s):
That is this like a very good reason to watch it. ’cause sometimes I’m like, oh my God, she’s exactly her how she was as a kid. Yes. And then sometimes I see like the older version of her, it is like a cool like bridge between both. Yeah.

Anne (1h 2m 54s):
And I think it might’ve been like, when I thought about watching it again, it wasn’t because I missed something in the storyline or felt like something needed to be clarified. It was more,

Ashley (1h 3m 3s):
Or you mean those songs again?

Anne (1h 3m 5s):
I mean I do, you know, the Cincy song really gets me going. Did we mention her name is Li Lisa Cincy Watsky? Or that that’s what the evil guys call her.

Ashley (1h 3m 15s):
Her name’s Lisa Piper. I think you did mention it already. Okay. But the, the bad guy can’t, doesn’t know what Cincinnati is. So he just calls her that the whole time over and over again.

Anne (1h 3m 26s):
Also. I love that her, her name is Piper. Do they say that towards the beginning

Ashley (1h 3m 30s):
When she gets to Toyland? I think she says that’s her name. Okay. Lisa

Anne (1h 3m 34s):
Pipe. That’s my mom’s maiden.

Ashley (1h 3m 36s):
Oh yeah, that’s right. Pipe. I’m surpris. You didn’t catch it.

Anne (1h 3m 39s):
Yeah, I didn’t. I must have not been listening very closely. Okay, so let’s just talk briefly about the release of this masterpiece

Ashley (1h 3m 47s):
Obscure masterpiece.

Anne (1h 3m 49s):
Yes. It aired December 19th, 1986. So basically right when we’re releasing this, right?

Ashley (1h 3m 55s):
Oh yeah. Oh my gosh. You’re

Anne (1h 3m 57s):
Right. Is it the same day we’re releasing

Ashley (1h 3m 58s):
It’s, yes. We did that again. I love it. Okay. 38 years ago. 38

Anne (1h 4m 4s):
Ago.

Ashley (1h 4m 4s):
That’s crazy. Today

Anne (1h 4m 6s):
If you’re listening on the day this is released December 19th. Totally crazy.

Ashley (1h 4m 9s):
I guess part of the reason that seems wild is because we watched on YouTube there’s an amazing, like basically Blu-Ray super high quality version. Oh my God. Yeah. And I can’t believe, like when you look at that, it doesn’t look 38 years old.

Anne (1h 4m 21s):
No. And I, I can’t believe that high, high quality thing is free on YouTube. It’s

Ashley (1h 4m 25s):
Weird. Yeah. It’s very great. We’ll link to it if anybody really wants to sit through this. Yeah, sure. The original airings. So this is like a thing that people who saw it originally still can’t get past. It was 140 minutes long, which

Anne (1h 4m 41s):
I’m like, that’s two hours and 20 minutes long. That’s

Ashley (1h 4m 44s):
Too much Babes in Toyland. I guess also,

Anne (1h 4m 47s):
Is it a Marvel movie?

Ashley (1h 4m 48s):
I know, right? I guess it included a lot of deleted songs, so, okay. No loss there probably. And that version has never been released and I’ve seen all over the internet for years. Oh, we want the full version. So when I was listening to Jill on $2 Late Fee, she said that even when they were doing it, they always knew it was gonna be shortened to 90 minutes for international releases. So they always knew stuff was gonna get cut out. It’s weird. Like what is the, I don’t understand the choice there. There. And she was calling it more. She said they were really calling it more of a mini series, even though it all aired in

Anne (1h 5m 23s):
One night.

Ashley (1h 5m 23s):
Oh. Like it wasn’t, they weren’t really considering it a movie.

Anne (1h 5m 26s):
Maybe they tr maybe they were going to release it in like parts.

Ashley (1h 5m 30s):
Yeah, maybe. But they ended up not doing that. And then they were like, wow, that was too long. We’re never gonna put that out again.

Anne (1h 5m 37s):
What a weird, this movie is just such a weird thing. Like also of course when you search for Babes in Toyland it comes with like all these different versions. So this is just one version that, you know, it’s the only one I’ve seen. Maybe the only one I’ll ever see. I don’t know. Weird movie. The plot seems like, it’s like almost a trope. Yeah. You know, to like have something happen and you know, it’s like totally, you go into another

Ashley (1h 6m 3s):
Universe, you wake up in another world. Yeah. Yeah.

Anne (1h 6m 5s):
But yeah, this was Babes in Toyland. If you, if you all haven’t seen it, you should definitely watch it. I think it’s worthwhile. Even if you’re just like, you know, watching it while you fall asleep might give you nightmares. Yeah.

Ashley (1h 6m 18s):
You wake up to that tralo. No, thank you. But yeah, it is a trip. It is a weird, weird moment in Drew’s filmography. If it wasn’t a Christmas movie, who knows when we would get to this one. Yes.

Anne (1h 6m 32s):
Yes. Exactly. And and the fact that like the Christmas elements of it. Yeah.

Ashley (1h 6m 37s):
It’s very small.

Anne (1h 6m 38s):
Yeah. It’s like just the beginning, we know it’s like they’re Christmas shopping.

Ashley (1h 6m 42s):
Yeah.

Anne (1h 6m 44s):
And then there’s a Christmas tree at the end. And then

Ashley (1h 6m 46s):
Santa. Don’t forget Santa. Oh

Anne (1h 6m 47s):
My God.

Ashley (1h 6m 48s):
Santa flying across the moon. Not nearly as good as ET flying across the moon. Oh my God. Those effects were rough.

Anne (1h 6m 55s):
I almost forgot about the effects. I’m gonna stop defending this movie.

Ashley (1h 7m 1s):
But it was still fun to talk about, that’s

Anne (1h 7m 3s):
For sure. Yes. I’m glad we did it because like, like we’ve said before, getting the excuse to rewatch some of these movies. Yeah.

Ashley (1h 7m 9s):
That is a really fun part of doing this podcast.

Anne (1h 7m 11s):
Like it is funny to be like, I’m doing research right now. Like this is important.

Ashley (1h 7m 15s):
This is important work.

Anne (1h 7m 16s):
Yes. Yes.

Ashley (1h 7m 18s):
I know. I was like, I was watching it at work. I was like, if anybody comes in here and hears this and looks at my screen, they’re gonna be like, what the hell are you doing?

Anne (1h 7m 25s):
Research. Research.

Ashley (1h 7m 28s):
All right. Thanks for sticking with us guys. I hope you didn’t have to watch the last part in double speed like I did with the end of Babes in Toyland. I was like, it’s at the end. If you had fun listening to us talk about this movie, please feel free to leave us a rating or a review. We are almost caught up with reading all the Apple podcast reviews that we know about. So give us some new ones and we’ll read your so on the air.

Anne (1h 7m 55s):
Yes please.

Ashley (1h 7m 57s):
And then of course, as we mentioned before, you can follow us on Instagram at How Do You Drew pod. And then if you wanna be like Drew Barrymore and engage with our other count, it’s at Drew Zm.

Anne (1h 8m 9s):
I, I mean, I just like zoned out for a second hearing. You say that

Ashley (1h 8m 14s):
You went to another world, you landed in a cake.

Anne (1h 8m 19s):
Yes. And while you’re on the internet, you know, ’cause we’re in a, the modern world, make sure you visit and subscribe to our Patreon. Make sure you visit our website at How Do You Drew dot com for episode page. We’ll have lots of fun behind the scenes and just really amazing stuff that you don’t wanna miss.

Ashley (1h 8m 36s):
Yes. There are gonna be some good photos for this one. Yes. So come check out the episode

Anne (1h 8m 40s):
Page super unique and send your listener mail to How Do You Drew [email protected]. Reach out to us on social media. Let

Ashley (1h 8m 48s):
Us know, are you one of those people that watch this as a kid and you have nostalgia and you think it’s great? Or are you with us and you’re like, what the hell is this movie?

Anne (1h 8m 55s):
I would love to hear someone who, who has nostalgia and like they,

Ashley (1h 8m 59s):
They exist. I’ve seen them out there. Yep,

Anne (1h 9m 1s):
Yep. It just, it just wasn’t us for whatever reason. Okay. My question to take us out today is, what’s your favorite Christmas themed dessert?

Ashley (1h 9m 11s):
Like always with the food?

Anne (1h 9m 13s):
I’m hungry.

Ashley (1h 9m 15s):
Do I have one that’s kind of a weird,

Anne (1h 9m 17s):
Or is there like a treat that comes out? Like if it’s candy or something that you feel like you have at Christmas time that you like?

Ashley (1h 9m 24s):
You know, I don’t really do it anymore, but we always used to have a jar of Hershey’s kisses. It was like a Christmas jar that only came out. I don’t even remember really what it looked like. I just remember the lid had one of those, you know, the like, kind of like suctioning blo like Yeah. One of those. So Hershey’s kisses, if I have those still kind of reminds me of Christmas time. Yeah.

Anne (1h 9m 44s):
I feel like they have a Christmas vibe for me too. Yeah,

Ashley (1h 9m 46s):
Well it’s that famous commercial that they’ve been airing forever with the little Hershey’s kisses doing the, we Wish You made Christmas. That’s, that might

Anne (1h 9m 53s):
Be white. That’s so true. And like a kind of a bell shape. Even with kisses. Yeah. Like, yeah. It’s so cute. Anyway, what is it for me? You know, I like Andy’s candies.

Ashley (1h 10m 2s):
Oh well yeah. I always like

Anne (1h 10m 5s):
Those. Yeah, I know they’re around all year. But I associate them with Christmas.

Ashley (1h 10m 8s):
I associate them with Olive Garden. Is that what they give you at the end of? Probably they give you a chocolate mint. It’s very Andy’s like, even if it’s not the same brand. Yes.

Anne (1h 10m 18s):
That is so funny. I thought, oh, I also like peppermint bark. So it’s like all of the different companies.

Ashley (1h 10m 24s):
I like peppermint, like

Anne (1h 10m 25s):
Pepper, pepper. Mm.

Ashley (1h 10m 27s):
All

Anne (1h 10m 27s):
Right. Now I need some candy. Okay, everyone. Merry Christmas. Possibly. Happy New Year.

Ashley (1h 10m 33s):
Yeah, no, really, I don’t think we’ll be out again until in 2024. So thanks for being here. This was a big year for us. We got a huge amount of new listeners this year. Yes. So wow.

Anne (1h 10m 43s):
Hope that it keeps just growing and next year’s even bigger. So here’s the 2024.

Ashley (1h 10m 48s):
Yeah, let’s do it. Thanks everybody. Merry Christmas, Happy, Holidays, all the good stuff.

Anne (1h 10m 53s):
Yes. And we’ll see you next Thursday.

Ashley (1h 10m 55s):
Bye-Bye

Anne (1h 10m 55s):
Bye.

22 (1h 11m 23s):
This episode of the How Do You Drew podcast was researched and produced by Ashley and Anne from thedrewseum.com with help from our sponsor, positive, medium.

Ashley (1h 11m 31s):
Special thanks to Matt Costa for our lovely theme song, Roxy Prima, for our adorable logo. And last but not least, Drew, Barrymore and all the Drewbie who love her, we do this for you. Thank you. Thank you.

Episode 063 - The Amy Fisher Story - Transcript

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Ashley (24s):
Okay. Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew.

Anne (27s):
This is A Drew Barrymore Podcast, brought to you by thedrewseum.com

Ashley (31s):
And sponsored by our friends at Positive Medium.

Anne (34s):
I’m Anne.

Ashley (34s):
And I’m Ashley.

Anne (36s):
And our guests.

Movies That Made Us Gay (39s):
My name’s Pete. And I’m Scott. And we are, we are the Movies That Made Us Gay. Woo-hoo.

Anne (45s):
Welcome. Welcome, welcome.

Ashley (48s):
We were trying to think of a mashup name I came up with. How did you get So Gay Drew?

Movies That Made Us Gay (53s):
Hey,

Anne (55s):
Well what was mine? Ashley?

Ashley (56s):
These are the Drew-vies that made us gay.

Movies That Made Us Gay (59s):
Oh, I like that. I like that.

Anne (1m 2s):
So that’s our contribution to this collaboration. And we’re out.

Ashley (1m 7s):
So I’ll just kind of preface by saying, listeners have heard me rave about your podcast for the last, I don’t know, like two months. I found it with your ever after episode. And as I began listening to you guys, I was like, they really know their stuff. What? I’m not sitting here yelling at the car. Like that’s wrong, like I do with other podcasts, like a nerd. And then I started going through your entire,

Movies That Made Us Gay (1m 32s):
That catalog. Yeah,

Ashley (1m 32s):
That catalog. Thank you. And realizing you’ve done like every movie that’s been important to me my whole life. Like the weird stuff from my childhood and the stuff I obsessed about as a teenager by myself with no one else. And I’ve had so many moments. This sounds weird and creepy, but I’ve had so many moments listening to you guys where I like psychically say exactly whatever reference you’re about to say. And I’ve just like, these are my people. So I had to, to stalk you, find you, tell you you had to be my friends and come on the podcast.

Anne (2m 2s):
Yeah,

Movies That Made Us Gay (2m 3s):
Absolutely. Thank you so much for having us on. We love doing kind of like collaborations like this. Yeah. And you know, like you said, we, we try to do as much research as we can. And even if it’s something that like, I’m not super into, I’m just like, well, if I’m gonna blob about it on a microphone for an hour and a half, I need to at least, you know, give it a watch. So yeah. I’m, I’m the same way. If I’m, if I’m listening to a podcast, I’m like, oh my God, people get it together with these facts. Yeah. Just open up your MDB trivia. It’s nothing.

Ashley (2m 35s):
And I also appreciate like that you always get dates correct. Like years. Correct. ’cause I have a weird, like, especially in the nineties, I know exactly when anything came out.

Movies That Made Us Gay (2m 44s):
Yeah, that’s one. That’s all I kind of, I always have the show notes that has stuff like release dates. Yeah. Years, that stuff was made. Kind of like production information. I find all that stuff fascinating.

Ashley (2m 57s):
Yeah, me too. We’re, I guess we’re all a bunch of nerds

Anne (3m 2s):
And I’m like an archivist by like trade. And so I’m like, yes, yes. Let’s talk about dates, let’s talk about records.

Movies That Made Us Gay (3m 10s):
Meanwhile, I have no head for that. Scott will be like, remember when we saw this movie at that one movie theater? I’m like, sure. I guess happen.

Anne (3m 18s):
But also like, I think Ashlyn and I are a mix of that. Yeah. Because I, as Ashley has like the dates and facts, like kind of memorized, but then suddenly I’ll come out with some like random vivid memory of something and it’s like, I don’t, I don’t know.

Ashley (3m 32s):
It’s helpful. We’re a good team, just like you guys.

Movies That Made Us Gay (3m 37s):
Same with us. I think we’re all four of us are, we’re, we work well with each other and that’s why our shows are so successful. Yes.

Ashley (3m 42s):
Totally. Actually, I wanna ask, I’m curious about how you guys have gotten your Patreon so thriving.

Movies That Made Us Gay (3m 49s):
First of all, I am like so proud to say that like everything that we’ve done is completely grassroots. It’s all just like networking and friends and just putting out, I mean, not to pat myself on the back, but putting, just putting out a good product, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And so I think doing things like this, you know, yeah. Collaborating with other podcasts, like-Minded shows, cross-promotion, stuff like that. It’s really kind of spread the word about us. And just kind of being as diligent as we can with socials and just putting ourselves out there. I mean, it could always be better, but knock on wood, it’s as good as it is now. And yeah, we just, we’d love all of our listeners.

Movies That Made Us Gay (4m 31s):
It’s so weird. You know, I, I hesitate and I hate you’re fans. I hate saying you’re fans. I, I hate it. It’s so weird. And you know, when we have guests on, especially when they come to our apartment and we’re like, okay, now we’re gonna do the intro. So look over there, because I, I have to be weird on the mic now. Yeah. All that stuff is so crazy because, you know, we’re just, we’re podcast listeners. We’re enthusiasts. And so we are just like, Hey, we can do it too. And I don’t know, I think just like I said, just trying your hardest to put out as good of a product that we’re proud of and yeah. I don’t know, I guess to pain off somehow.

Ashley (5m 10s):
So Cool.

Anne (5m 11s):
I feel like we identify with that, like that way of going about it. Yeah, a hundred percent. We had this sort of community built in, so we’re like, let’s lean on that community. Let’s put out a product that we would enjoy if we were listening, you know? Yeah. Like Ashley’s always like, I love our podcast,

Ashley (5m 27s):
But I’m like, I listen

Anne (5m 28s):
To this,

Ashley (5m 30s):
I do do a successful

Movies That Made Us Gay (5m 31s):
Show. No. Scott will be editing and he’ll say like, this episode’s really good. And I’m just like, of course it is.

Ashley (5m 38s):
Yeah. That sounds like a really good, I really like this episode. Every time it’s really good. I’m

Anne (5m 44s):
Like, yay. Good. I’m so glad. How do Drewbie Drewbie,

4 (5m 51s):
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5 (7m 12s):
Drew. Barrymore is Amy Fisher. You ever been with an older guy? Unstoppable. Whatever Amy wants. Amy gets insatiable. I love him and I love the sex. I’m dangerous. I’ll do whatever it takes to get his wife out of the way. Don’t start what? You can’t finish. When I know what I want, I go for it. Let me see it. You are a psycho. Don’t say it though. This is getting outta control. The New York Times calls ABC’s the best of the three. Drew, Barrymore, The Amy, Fisher Story Sunday.

Anne (7m 42s):
So we are here to talk about The Amy, Fisher Story. Yeah.

Ashley (7m 49s):
Probably not one of the like top of the list. We gotta get to this movie, but

Movies That Made Us Gay (7m 54s):
We’ve referenced it on our show. Yeah.

Ashley (7m 56s):
That’s why I’m happy that you guys are bringing it to us in a way.

Movies That Made Us Gay (7m 59s):
Yeah. And before we get too into it, I just have to say on the call we have, we have a very special guest on the call. We have Drew here.

Ashley (8m 8s):
Oh my God.

Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 10s):
Well we have Dylan Saunders.

Ashley (8m 12s):
Yes. Did you know that she was just playing with that on the her show this week?

Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 16s):
Was she really?

Ashley (8m 17s):
It’s like the newest thing on their, the show’s. Instagram is her playing with that with Ariana Debos.

Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 23s):
I love,

Anne (8m 24s):
I’m so happy that this is, that Drew is here today. Yeah, her, her presence is definitely felt. It looks like Elle is stunned right now. She, Drew Barrymore has arrived.

Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 37s):
Kathy Griffin. Yeah.

Anne (8m 40s):
It’s really not, it’s really not a good,

Ashley (8m 43s):
It’s got a profile I feel like. And it’s got her butterfly tattoo. That’s most importantly of all.

Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 49s):
It’s got, it’s got the bear more jawline. Like the chin is definitely there.

Ashley (8m 54s):
The hair is wild.

Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 57s):
Insane. Yeah. These burrow curls are outta control. That’s all the character. Dylan Saunders has insane hair. But that is off topic.

Ashley (9m 7s):
I brought my Amy Fisher VHSI was like, I’ll have this behind me. And then I’m like, where am I gonna have this floating? No,

Anne (9m 14s):
I thought for a split second that they were going to pull out the, that

Ashley (9m 18s):
Would’ve been close enough. This is amazing.

Anne (9m 20s):
You know what I’m, I’m so happy that you have that.

Ashley (9m 23s):
I know.

Anne (9m 23s):
I just gotta say, this is making me so happy. Mine are like in storage still in the box. Yeah.

Ashley (9m 28s):
Ours are still in the boxes. Like for

Movies That Made Us Gay (9m 31s):
The first week of the pandemic, when everybody was like in their apartments finding stuff to do, I broke her out.

Anne (9m 39s):
Oh.

Movies That Made Us Gay (9m 40s):
Like I broke her out like week one of the pandemic.

Anne (9m 44s):
Please tell me you made like a movie or something with the doll. Just

Ashley (9m 48s):
Stop motion. Like the Rosie O’Donnell at Flower Films one.

Movies That Made Us Gay (9m 52s):
I feel we might, that one was wild. I feel like we might’ve done a couple of things that might be on the Patreon. I think there’s some like Christmas decoration videos. Yeah.

Ashley (10m 1s):
Oh, I started signing up for your Patreon the other day on my phone and I hit some sort of wall where I was like, I have to do this on a computer. And I’m so glad you reminded me. ’cause I need to do that.

Movies That Made Us Gay (10m 10s):
Well, lemme tell you this much listeners, the new Patreon app, they completely redesigned their social media. The new app is Carbon.

Ashley (10m 17s):
Okay.

Movies That Made Us Gay (10m 18s):
The new update’s kind of whack. Yeah. It’s weird. Anyway,

Anne (10m 20s):
Yeah, sometimes we talk shit about the platforms we used to. Yeah. Like

Ashley (10m 25s):
Being honest,

Anne (10m 26s):
You know, we’re just like make the technology better. Not worse.

Ashley (10m 31s):
Okay. So should we bring it back to Amy Fisher? For anyone who doesn’t know, this is obviously based on real events. I actually said something to my husband, I’m like, oh yeah, we’re doing The Amy, Fisher Story. He is like, what’s that? I’m like, you know Amy Fisher? And he is like, no. I was like, honey, you know Joey Butta Fuco? You know that name? He is like kind of, I’m like, oh my God.

Anne (10m 50s):
That’s what my boyfriend remembered was Joey. And I was like, Buttafuoco. Like, you

Ashley (10m 54s):
Can’t forget that one. But Pete, if I’m remembering right from what I had heard when you guys were talking about it, you like, remember this real time pretty well.

Movies That Made Us Gay (11m 1s):
Oh, I remember this Real, I think, I think I’m the senior member of this group. Okay. This did happen in 91, 92.

Ashley (11m 10s):
92. Yeah. Was when it like came out in the media.

Movies That Made Us Gay (11m 14s):
Yeah. So I’m in the eighth or ninth grade and I watched, the first one that aired was Amy Fisher My Story. Right. And so this is the one that’s Amy Fisher’s point of view. And in that one, they cast a really handsome guy as Joey. Right. Because it’s Amy’s story,

Anne (11m 36s):
Her perspective is that he was the dreamiest man alive. Yes.

Movies That Made Us Gay (11m 41s):
He was starring on the hit a b, c hour long drama sisters. Oh yeah. The, the girl who played Amy was not famous.

Ashley (11m 49s):
Noelle Parker. Right.

Movies That Made Us Gay (11m 51s):
Yes. So I saw that one first and that was the one that I was like, okay, this is the real deal because it came out first in my, and they must have 12-year-old brain. They must have fast tracked that.

Ashley (12m 1s):
Oh, all of them. They came out within a week of each other. I believe

Movies That Made Us Gay (12m 4s):
It was the very next week. It wasn’t like a year later. Yeah. So then the Alyssa and the Drew version, the Real Event night were on at the time on the same night. That

Anne (12m 15s):
Is crazy.

Movies That Made Us Gay (12m 17s):
So I’m watching the Alyssa version and flipping back and forth and all I’m getting is like newsrooms and courthouses and I’m like, I don’t wanna see this. But you were, you were invested with the Alyssa one.

Ashley (12m 30s):
Oh,

Movies That Made Us Gay (12m 30s):
More on the night. On the night. I feel like I watching Alyssa and then the reason I was kind of not into the Drew one because it was from this reporter’s point of view. So I got, whenever I would switch to it, it was always something weird. And I was like, I want Amy

Anne (12m 50s):
More Amy.

Movies That Made Us Gay (12m 52s):
It was just my luck of the draw of changing the channels. Had I started on Drew, I probably would’ve been sucked into that. And not really into that.

Ashley (12m 59s):
You just happened to come in at the bad scenes every time.

Anne (13m 3s):
But

Movies That Made Us Gay (13m 3s):
It’s like, it was always a,

Anne (13m 4s):
But that’s what makes the movie good as an adult now. It’s like, oh, okay. This movie’s actually like attempting to look at all these sides of it.

Ashley (13m 12s):
That’s true.

Movies That Made Us Gay (13m 13s):
They were also trying to do something interesting with storytelling. With storytelling. Yes. I mean, you have to kinda give Andy Tenet, this is kind of a schlocky made for TV movie, but for the most part it’s pretty well put together. Yeah. Like you can kind tell that, oh, he’s gonna go on to have a successful filmmaking career because this movie has, well-directed scenes of it, of kind of when they jump timelines, you get the point of view from the car, you get the point of view from Mary, but Fuko on the stairs. So it cuts together kind of interesting.

Anne (13m 46s):
It

Ashley (13m 46s):
Does, yeah. It’s got an interesting chronological way of like how they tell this story. And then we have to shout out Andy Tenet because of course he came back and directed ever after five years later, which is, I can’t believe it’s only five years.

Anne (13m 59s):
That seems crazy.

Ashley (14m 1s):
But like, it must have been like two decades between those two.

Anne (14m 5s):
No. And do, do we know Ashley if, like, did Drew have anything to do with bringing Andy TenneT on?

Ashley (14m 12s):
I believe so. Yeah. I’m pretty sure she did. Yeah. It’s just like, why would she think of,

Anne (14m 17s):
It’s like such

Ashley (14m 18s):
Weirdly different projects.

Movies That Made Us Gay (14m 22s):
Gosh. So we kind of fell down the rabbit hole of just the whole scandal and Oh yeah, we were watching, I watched it, I watched the entire a and e special.

Ashley (14m 35s):
I started that one actually on YouTube today.

Anne (14m 37s):
Do

Movies That Made Us Gay (14m 38s):
Like true crime stuff. Yeah. I watched the whole special on the Amy Fisher Joey Fuco drama. Okay. So, so my hot take just real quick, is that just like, even if Amy never shot Mary Jo.

Anne (14m 56s):
Yeah.

Movies That Made Us Gay (14m 57s):
Like they’re all pretty terrible, right? Even Mary Jo,

Ashley (15m 0s):
There’s no good side.

Movies That Made Us Gay (15m 3s):
I feel like Mary Jo’s kind of a piece of work. Yeah. Like I, I know she’s, she’s definitely a victim. She did not deserve to be, you know, shot and put through all of that. And her body is, you know, I think the, I think the post Joey Bongo marriage Mary is maybe a little more reflective. I like all of those interviews when she would go on Oprah of like after she divorced him.

Ashley (15m 25s):
You gotta tell us about those. ’cause I’m not that versed in that part.

Anne (15m 30s):
I forgot how many elements of this there are that the mom is weird. That Mary Jo is weird. Like every character is weird. Yeah. So, so tell me more about the like Oprah Mary Jo stuff. ’cause I haven’t seen it.

Movies That Made Us Gay (15m 43s):
So, okay. So the order of the events goes Amy Fisher gets out of jail in 99. She writes her tell all book, like The Inevitable Tell All book that she ends up going on Oprah to promote probably around oh three, I think. And it’s kind of interesting, you can tell that Oprah’s sympathetic to Amy just kind of ’cause clearly like Joey Buttafuoco kind of like took advantage of this sport.

Ashley (16m 12s):
Absolutely. Yeah, definitely.

Movies That Made Us Gay (16m 14s):
So when Oprah starts talking to her about shooting Mary Jo, you can tell that there’s something about the story that Oprah’s not buying that I think that Amy says that she was kind of meaning to hit Mary with the gun and it went off. It

Anne (16m 28s):
Went off,

Ashley (16m 28s):
Right. Yeah.

Movies That Made Us Gay (16m 30s):
But she pretty much said that she went over to kill her. Yeah. So Oprah’s kind of calling her out on which one was it? Inconsistencies of of that. You can tell that Oprah’s a little like impatient with this, with Amy. And then Mary is watching the show and she’s upset and she calls Oprah’s people and wants to go on

Ashley (16m 51s):
What like

Movies That Made Us Gay (16m 53s):
Yeah, like, I’m like, of course you wanna go on Oprah. Yeah, of course you wanna go on Oprah, but Mary wants, here’s my side of the story. Yeah, yeah. I don’t know how she got in touch with like Harpo studio, right. Mary Jo Butta Fuco. All right. Call us up. The name

Ashley (17m 7s):
Will will carry you through. Yeah.

Movies That Made Us Gay (17m 10s):
Kind of the flippant way that Amy was talking about. I didn’t really mean to shoot her that a, that still to this day that Mary Buttafuoco doesn’t buy. Yeah,

Ashley (17m 20s):
I, I don’t know if I buy that either. Yeah. But I definitely think she was, you know, taken advantage of and treated mercilessly by the media, which I like that this version of the movie gets into that. Right.

Movies That Made Us Gay (17m 33s):
Before kind of my big introduction to all of this is that I was a small child when all of this happened. I remember passing references to Amy Fisher when I was a kid. I think that there’s a joke in Adam’s family Values about Amy Fisher. Oh wow. Talking about the psychos, like trading cards when they’re at summer camp. That’s right. One Fisher. So that’s kind of was my main reference for all of this. And then I remember reading the introduction to the screenplay of American Beauty by Alan Ball, and Alan Ball talks about, and his introduction of that, the Amy Fisher, Joey Buttafuoco drama was a big inspiration for writing the script for American Beauty.

Ashley (18m 17s):
Wow. But that’s interesting. That’s

Movies That Made Us Gay (18m 19s):
Sort of the idea is that clearly these are, this is a wild story that the public will ev will never really know the true truth of. And that he kind of wanted to write something kind of like that. And when you look at kind of the bare bones of a script, like American Beauty, you have like the Long Island low lead type I guess. So you have kind of this guy like crisis. Yeah. You get an attempted murder at the end of the movie. I mean, Lester dies at the end of American Beauty. And in the original cut of American Beauty, it would go between Ricky and Janie in jail. Like on trial for Lester’s murder. Like that was the original cut of America.

Movies That Made Us Gay (18m 59s):
Whoa. And then Sam Mendez just kind of rehauled it and post that. It just kind of became something a little different. And I take it that probably the events of something like American Beauty would explode. Like the events that Yeah. Yeah. That it would become like a big tabloid scandal of this man that ends up dead and there’s like an underage girl in his house and maybe done by his daughter’s boyfriend. But yeah, just kind of interesting. That was kind of my main introduction to all of the story. And then when I first started going out with Pete, I think that Pete would just have, I’ve just always been obsessed with it. He’s always just with it too.

Movies That Made Us Gay (19m 39s):
So the three movies, I mean Alyssa and Drew battling it out on the same night on two major networks, Drew actresses whose careers have always kind of Yes.

Ashley (19m 48s):
Yeah. Strange little parallels. The Poison, Ivys

Movies That Made Us Gay (19m 53s):
Child actor Drew did movies and Alyssa did TV and they both kind of had the Wild Girl phase in the early nineties. Yeah. So we found an Esquire article from 2016. Yeah. And it talks about casting Drew in this version. Oh, let’s

Ashley (20m 13s):
Hear.

Movies That Made Us Gay (20m 14s):
Calling it casting a still controversial, still jail bait, Drew Barrymore to play. Fisher is a move straight out of the John Waters playbook and she owns the role.

Ashley (20m 24s):
Love that. When I was younger, I didn’t necessarily look at this time in Drew’s career and be like, Ooh, she is really young and being really treated sexually in the media. But now that I’m older, I do. And so it’s kind of weird to be like, I’m feeling for Amy Fisher being 16, 17 taken advantage as 17-year-old Drew is doing these scenes with this older man. It’s kind of weird

Movies That Made Us Gay (20m 47s):
Body double. I hope that that was a body double because that sexy

Ashley (20m 50s):
Well, we have some info on that. I’ll just jump to that. What happened was she did the love scene. She was clothed. It’s like ten second song. Then they did a scene with the body double and then they released that on video calling it like the uncensored version that couldn’t be seen on tv. And Drew was really upset. I have her quote here. So she said, America thinking that I’m letting this man go down on me makes me wanna vomit. I wish these people would get hit over the head with the two by 4 55 times until they understand what they did was wrong.

Movies That Made Us Gay (21m 26s):
I’m like, okay. So what we saw did not air on A, B, C.

Ashley (21m 28s):
Correct. Yeah.

Movies That Made Us Gay (21m 29s):
This is from the vhs, a VHS pull. Then

Ashley (21m 32s):
Those scenes, the ones, those shots,

Movies That Made Us Gay (21m 36s):
It makes a lot

Anne (21m 36s):
More sense. They were kind of gratuitous and I like almost forgot about them. And then I was like, that’s not Drew’s boob.

Ashley (21m 41s):
Yeah. And it wasn’t a, it wasn’t the wig either, I noticed right away. That’s not that shitty wig. Yeah.

Anne (21m 47s):
It was just to add some spice.

Ashley (21m 50s):
Yeah. And I can understand like, that’s not what she signed up for that that wasn’t what she agreed to film. Like Oy crazy. Yeah. And she’s 17.

Movies That Made Us Gay (21m 59s):
Yeah. She, I mean granted kind of, it’s, it’s topical and it’s a little bit not controversial, but I don’t know she understands that yes, this is The Amy Fisher Story. But she also knows that this is a made for television movie. This is running on primetime on a major network. So no, I don’t have to take my clothes off. And so Yeah. Yeah, I can imagine to see the, you know, the Unrated version on VHS and just like, what in the hell.

Ashley (22m 26s):
Yeah. Especially when they’re like advertising it as like, woo, come see Drew Barrymore. Like, you didn’t see her before.

Movies That Made Us Gay (22m 33s):
So, okay, so I forgot about the accent. Work in this mood finance in, now listen, she, you know, not for nothing. Sh Emmy nominated for Gray Gardens.

Ashley (22m 49s):
Yeah. Yes. Yes. She didn’t win that one, but nominated. Yes.

Movies That Made Us Gay (22m 53s):
Didn’t win that one. She got

Ashley (22m 54s):
The Golden Globe.

Movies That Made Us Gay (22m 55s):
Got got the Globe. And what Martha’s Vineyard is adjacent to Long Island. Right.

Ashley (23m 3s):
Anne, you’re the closest to the East Coast. Let us know.

Anne (23m 6s):
I don’t think that it’s good.

Movies That Made Us Gay (23m 10s):
I mean, I mean she’s going forth though. She’s making choices.

Ashley (23m 14s):
I remember Anne, if you remember Justine and Mel talking about this in one of the, I think it was Celebrity profile, her friends. And Justine just says that is a gnarly accent. I always remember that.

Anne (23m 28s):
I, I guess I can’t necessarily speak to its accuracy, but I feel like what I kept thinking is that it sounds like Drew is talking through her teeth.

Movies That Made Us Gay (23m 38s):
Sure. Yeah.

Ashley (23m 39s):
Okay. So we have a clip of her in 1993 on the very first episode of late Night with Conan and talking about her performance here,

6 (23m 50s):
You of the three Amy fishers. I think yours was by far the best.

7 (23m 54s):
Right. Thank you. No, it was very

6 (24m 1s):
Funny. It was cool. Now I gotta ask you, did you, A lot of actors, when they’re preparing for a role like that with a, a killer or a Murderer, they actually go and meet the person in prison. Did you do that? Because I know,

8 (24m 12s):
Well, let me tell you a little something about Amy. I didn’t get to meet her actually because she was, you know, going through all her court things and being arraigned at the time of the shooting. And it was very nerve wracking to be portraying somebody who was living in the media as we were shooting and Right. You know, trying to pull off the accent and do the whole thing and like, you know, understand everything and sort of come to terms with why she did the thing she did to have the sincerity to play her. But it was, I had to do it. I had to live out that humor I felt for this girl. Right. You

6 (24m 45s):
Know? So you, you didn’t meet with her, you didn’t talk to her, you just studied tapes

8 (24m 49s):
Or I just, I would listen to her voice over and over and over again.

Movies That Made Us Gay (24m 58s):
That was the first episode of Conan.

Ashley (24m 59s):
Very first one. Yes. Yep.

Movies That Made Us Gay (25m 1s):
Wild.

Ashley (25m 3s):
Isn’t that cool?

Movies That Made Us Gay (25m 5s):
I did not know that she was one of his first guests and, you know, putting yourself in Drew’s in Drew’s shoes and like in Drew’s position in the early nineties, it’s just like, what do you have to lose? Yeah.

Ashley (25m 15s):
Oh yeah. She,

Anne (25m 17s):
She wanted to shed this like little girl thing. She wanted to be like, I’m an adult

Movies That Made Us Gay (25m 22s):
Getting opera role. Like Amy Fisher. It’s just, I mean, especially at a time where I think that Drew was, I mean, I think that she was kind of lucky to be getting offers. Like I think that hair was really at a rock bottom and I mean, fuck yeah, I’m gonna do the Amy Fisher made for TV movie.

Ashley (25m 39s):
Yeah. She said she loved the character. Amy was the rarest one for me. Whereas Ivy and Poison Ivy, which I know you guys watched today, was something I created. Amy was an imitation. I was having to do scenes where the entire nation had seen her say these exact words. And then she also said like, it was just such a great challenge imitating a real person and it had to be just right. So that was another reason. She was like, I gotta do this. And it was just like, yeah, like you said, obvious. Like she’s, she has to do this.

Movies That Made Us Gay (26m 8s):
Yeah. Well, you know, we were, as we’re watching it, there’s this scene where there is that kind of surveillance video footage Yeah. About that when that guy sells her out.

Ashley (26m 20s):
Yes. That piece of shit.

Movies That Made Us Gay (26m 22s):
Yeah. And so that’s probably a tape that was on the news, probably verbatim. Probably not. I

Ashley (26m 29s):
Looked for it today actually. I wanted to see if it was that close, but I couldn’t find it. Oh,

Movies That Made Us Gay (26m 33s):
They probably knew that they couldn’t change the dialogue too much because it’s gonna be pretty closely examined. Yeah. Probably had to stick to whatever she said,

Anne (26m 42s):
Which is interesting.

Ashley (26m 44s):
And also like Drew has, so we’ll just kind of give you like a little more background as to what was going on. So she, this is when she was dating, you guys are gonna like this poll. Jamie Walters

Movies That Made Us Gay (26m 54s):
From The Heights

Ashley (26m 55s):
From The Heights and 9 0 2 1 oh Donna Martin’s abusive boyfriend. And they were engaged, of course she’s 17, but they’re engaged. And while they were in Vancouver filming this in late 1992, he broke up with her three days before she was supposed to come back by phone. And she begged him to wait. And when she got back he had moved out of their apartment and this was like a dark time for her anyway, playing Amy. And then this happened on top of that.

Movies That Made Us Gay (27m 22s):
Oh my gosh. Yeah,

Ashley (27m 24s):
She was really broken up by it.

Anne (27m 26s):
Yeah. We had a like a bunch of articles around this time that we were reading and she was just like, I’m so heartbroken, I’m so like, I can’t imagine like, wow. And she’s like, yeah, like 17.

Ashley (27m 36s):
Yeah. Like, it’s

Anne (27m 38s):
Crazy.

Movies That Made Us Gay (27m 39s):
That’s wild. That is. That’s absolutely wild.

Ashley (27m 42s):
We also have a clip of her on, I know you guys love the Rosie O’Donnell show, so we’ve been talking about this on the pod. Rosie’s slowly putting all the episodes on her YouTube. They’re

Movies That Made Us Gay (27m 53s):
All on our YouTube.

Ashley (27m 54s):
Oh my God. So I’ve been waiting for this one. This is from 1999 from April. And this was like my favorite one. I like watching it again now I knew the whole thing by heart because I used to watch Oh my God, on my tape.

Movies That Made Us Gay (28m 6s):
No, I think, I’m sure that I’ve seen this interview. I think I, I probably watched this live. You

Ashley (28m 11s):
Probably did. You might remember the Play-Doh desk. That was like the thing from this one that I always remember. But sh I, as I was watching it, I was like, wait, she’s about to talk about Amy Fisher. I remember this. And so I was like, perfect, we’re gonna throw this in here.

8 (28m 27s):
Yeah. When I was playing Amy Fisher, that was really hard. Yeah. I was in Vancouver, I was all alone. I was playing like, you know, a psycho slut. It was insane.

9 (28m 38s):
A murdering psycho slut. I know. Yeah. She’s getting outta jail, you know? Is she, Mary Jo supposedly forgives her right now. She’s getting outta jail.

8 (28m 45s):
Well that’s full circle. It

9 (28m 47s):
Sure is, isn’t it?

Ashley (28m 48s):
Yeah. That’s nice. Oh, that’s a whole, oh my God,

Anne (28m 51s):
She’s so cute.

Ashley (28m 52s):
Oh, I love that episode so much.

Movies That Made Us Gay (28m 54s):
Wow. Wow. She would’ve been doing Preston never been Kissed. If it was April of 99, then yeah.

Ashley (28m 58s):
Look at. Correct. See, this is why you have my heart Scott. That is like, me too. A I am that person all the time.

Movies That Made Us Gay (29m 8s):
I love that. I also love that Z is just like, oh sure. She’s getting outta jail first. I’ve heard of it. Yeah. Keeping up with Amy just finds out about it all on the show. Yep.

Ashley (29m 18s):
She’s like, gotta gotta move on with my life not holding onto that Amy Fisher stuff

Movies That Made Us Gay (29m 24s):
With Mary Fuko. Like Yeah, that’s real. Is that she kind of like, she made these statements that she forgives Amy that clearly she was like taken advantage of and I mean,

Ashley (29m 34s):
You guys seem to know more. Did Mary Jo like finally admit that the relationship had happened between Amy and Joey?

Movies That Made Us Gay (29m 41s):
I, I think she, yeah, I think she does because he was, he wanna go to jail suspended afterwards for statutory rape and got like seven months or something.

Ashley (29m 50s):
Oh my God.

Movies That Made Us Gay (29m 51s):
Yeah. But I think that the age of consent in New York was 17. Okay. So, and I think she was like months away from her 17th birthday. So it was a whole thing of just like, well, you know, how different was she in the like 50 days? My God. Before she was like a consenting adult and blah, blah, blah, all this like garbage nonsense. And he gets like seven months. Right. And I think it was for like one count or something. Yeah. But she stuck with him through all of that. And I think, I think in the end she was just like, yes, he did. You know, he did cheat on me, did have this affair, whatever. But I, you know what’s interesting about this version because of, you know, with the three and all that is that The Amy Fisher Story is like, he was handsome.

Movies That Made Us Gay (30m 40s):
He was charming. He lured me in and yes, he pushed me into this world of prostitution. Yeah. Right. The the Alyssa version is like, I don’t know her, it’s like the but Fuco endorsed one. Right. Right.

Ashley (30m 55s):
And it’s,

Movies That Made Us Gay (30m 57s):
I don’t know her, who is she though? She’s just, why are you so obsessed with me? She, she keeps showing up to the top Yeah. About this damn car. Yeah. But then, but then this one is just like, yes, she has a pager. Yes. She’s turning tricks. Maybe Joey’s aware of it, but not fully involved in that. Yeah.

Ashley (31m 15s):
They left that kind of vague. Yeah.

Movies That Made Us Gay (31m 16s):
They left that very vague. And so, but they were fully explicit in that yes, he was seeing her, but kind of like not really su super into it. I guess like the her and the tricks thing seems like that was on her in this version. I think so. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He

Ashley (31m 31s):
Like mentions later that Joey got her into it, but they never show it. Right. Yeah. Right.

Movies That Made Us Gay (31m 36s):
IJI just love how everybody was so outraged that she had a pager. I

Ashley (31m 40s):
Know. That was one of my notes, the quote a beeper. Yeah.

Movies That Made Us Gay (31m 45s):
I dunno if you watched the real world. It’s just like, why do you have a beeper? Do you still really

Ashley (31m 48s):
Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, I totally remember that. That was a big deal. I’m right in between you guys age-wise, so I get all the references.

Movies That Made Us Gay (31m 58s):
Yeah. That was real world season one. That was an old one, but I mean, I had a, I was in high school when people had pagers and Yeah, me too. Yeah. So that was to to to, you know, to me and to listeners already just, just like, why would you be so outraged by it? But I guess at that point in 91 or 92, it

Ashley (32m 17s):
Was too early for somebody that age to have a beeper. No one was beeping. I love you with the like numbers or boobs or

Movies That Made Us Gay (32m 28s):
Yeah, absolutely. A I found it very interesting that this was kind of the split down the middle of who’s kind of side, you know, more objective I guess. Yeah. And you get the tabloid journalist angle from the post,

Ashley (32m 57s):
Which I appreciated. That’s one of my notes is that I appreciate that she’s like kind of saying some of the things that maybe a lot of people weren’t saying back then about like, Hey, this is a teenage girl. Like, why are we,

Anne (33m 9s):
It’s kind of a feminist perspective from that journalist. Like it’s, it’s, it’s kind of cool for, I mean, even when you think about like sex work potentially being like Amy’s own idea. Like, hey, that’s kind of feminist. If

Ashley (33m 21s):
We’re like, coming from the people, why is this becoming like, why is she getting vilified? Right? Yeah.

Anne (33m 26s):
So it’s kind of like, oh, interesting. Like what, yeah. If, if there was an Amy endorsed version, do we think it would be this one? Would she be on board with, you know, being like,

10 (33m 37s):
Talking about Joey? I love talking about

Anne (33m 40s):
Joey. I love that part.

Movies That Made Us Gay (33m 44s):
We just talk about Joey. But Fuco, it’s just like, if you’re really gonna risk at all, are you gonna be doing it for this one Joey Fuco? Oh my

Ashley (33m 51s):
God,

Movies That Made Us Gay (33m 52s):
I don’t know. As

Ashley (33m 52s):
Soon as he comes on the screen and I feel like this guy’s pretty accurate to the real one. I was just like, puke. Like, I can’t, this guy makes me sick. Like, and he’s just flirting with her.

Movies That Made Us Gay (34m 3s):
There’s not any other like, long Island guys in the, in the body chop.

Anne (34m 8s):
I mean like tight, tight T-shirt and like this kind of empty hammer pants. Yep. Yeah. I mean, I don’t know, it kind of got me a little, I’m no, absolutely not. Absolutely not. But I feel like at that time he might have just been so slick.

Ashley (34m 29s):
Yeah, I I mean it could have been a charm thing. Yeah.

Anne (34m 32s):
Good place. And

Movies That Made Us Gay (34m 33s):
It’s time and place too, because it’s the car that she was Dr I forget what kind of car it was, but it’s, you know, it’s a very like Jersey shore, I feel like Long Islands, you know, the Jersey Shore, all that. It’s a, it’s a specific regional thing that, you know, people who look a certain way and they’ve lived a very comfortable middle class life in Long Island. And that was just something that Amy probably just aspired to. Like, she really saw herself living the rest of her life with Joey.

Ashley (35m 0s):
Yeah. I did appreciate like the kind of scene where she goes to her friend’s house and they give her dinner and you can tell she’s just like, this is like what I need in my life. And her, oh my God. The scene where her on Christmas morning and her mom’s like folding all the wrapping paper from the presents to reuse them. Oh my.

Anne (35m 16s):
I’m like, that’s such a cool

Ashley (35m 17s):
Little touch.

Anne (35m 18s):
But I like that touch.

Movies That Made Us Gay (35m 20s):
I was gonna say, the Christmas morning scene was also giving us a little female trouble. That was very John Waters not on Christmas. Dawn, she was gonna knock the tree down on top of her mom and just like stomp on all the presents.

Ashley (35m 33s):
She was just like sitting there. I kept waiting for something to happen too. So all of her little blowups, like, especially at the beginning, I was like, she’s, she looks like such a babe. But she is such a freaking bratt the way she was acting towards her parents. And, and then I was like, this is how Drew was to her mom when she was like 12, 13. And I was really wondering if she pulled some of that. Like, this is how she would act to her mom in real life. Which is so wild to think about. Probably like slamming doors. Like get, you’re not allowed to come in the house. Like she really told her mom what to do at one,

Anne (36m 9s):
But I think that was like, wasn’t she really high too?

Ashley (36m 12s):
Yeah. Or she was pissed that her mom was keeping her from going and getting high. Yeah. But yeah, I thought that was interesting to think about. And then I have, we have a picture of one of the script pages ’cause I’m sure you guys notice how much she plays with her hair in the movie Her amazing wig. Yeah. And in the script it said it called for that and it said it’s as if her hair was an extension of her personality. I thought that

Anne (36m 37s):
Was fun. I did notice actually that the way she was playing with her hair felt like a character thing, not Drew.

Ashley (36m 42s):
Yeah. It’s not the way Drew Drew plays with her hair a lot because

Anne (36m 44s):
There’s a part where she was like putting her hair in a ponytail and she kind of did like a thing and I was like, yes. That, that feels so specific. Yeah. For some

Ashley (36m 52s):
Reason’s. Especially because she does play with her hair all the time. It was like totally different than how she Yeah.

Movies That Made Us Gay (36m 57s):
Right, right. She, she’s going down the very like Eileen Waro, like sure. Glaring out. But I think, you know, there’s those famous shots of when they arrested Amy and she’s in the cutoff jeans and she’s, and she’s coming out the white T-shirt and the white T-shirt and her hair is down over covering her face. And so I think that that I, to me it was like, okay, she, she’s young, she’s a kid. She uses her hair in this famous shot to, you know, to, to shield her face from the cameras. So let’s take that and extrapolate Yeah. And like run with it and it’s awesome. Love that as the character. Yeah. And there’s, okay, there’s two scenes where she goes to confront Mary Jo at the door.

Movies That Made Us Gay (37m 42s):
At the door. There’s the first one where she’s selling candy. Yes. That shot the hair is wild. Yeah. It’s

Ashley (37m 50s):
Is that when she has like under like that with the hat?

Movies That Made Us Gay (37m 53s):
No, that’s,

Ashley (37m 53s):
That’s when she shoots her.

Anne (37m 56s):
It’s like, it’s like rizzi.

Movies That Made Us Gay (37m 58s):
It’s frizzy, it’s down, it’s completely down. And it’s just completely like, it looks like Amy is like, I don’t know, picture day or going to the glamor shots. She’s like, this is her ready to like show the world. And I didn’t remember to me in my head like, I don’t know how, I don’t remember how the events went down and we didn’t watch either versions, but I remembered the whole like selling candy angle and I thought that was when she shot her. So Yeah, I don’t, because like when that scene came up I’m like, oh shit. Like we’re already here. Yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I was watching a, a news story and they were interviewing that Filipino kid.

Movies That Made Us Gay (38m 40s):
Oh. And he was kind getaway driver. He was kind of reflecting back on it of just like, I don’t know, it’s just like I couldn’t get a clear shot. I’m just not doing it.

Ashley (38m 49s):
That’s why’s the reason

Movies That Made Us Gay (38m 52s):
Back on. Yeah. Helping Amy and he’s just like, I can’t even get a clear shot. It’s like all these, this is whack. I’m not doing it. But all these people in her life just doing these things just ’cause she’s like, just do it. Like, I need a gun. Okay. What, like

Anne (39m 5s):
Who are, I think it’s like, is it like pretty girl treatment or am I putting that on her because it’s Drew like, I don’t know. I mean master manipulator maybe. I don’t know.

Movies That Made Us Gay (39m 15s):
Yeah. Yeah.

Ashley (39m 16s):
That’s how she’s portrayed right? In the media.

Movies That Made Us Gay (39m 19s):
Yeah. Yeah. But but again, like the, the way the media portrayed her was just like so wild at the time. So who knows exactly. Like what Yeah. The real stories. But the real Amy, these interviews are so kind of all over the place. I mean granted the Oprah one was 25 years ago, so it’s like, who knows? But she does seem like, yeah, maybe there is some sort of like, I don’t know, what would you sociopath kind of tendencies there where she Yeah. Manipulating people.

Ashley (39m 50s):
I did like notice when I was watching some of the videos of her back in that time, like she has sort of a vacancy in her face that I felt like Drew captured. Like Drew does not have her normal sparkle in this movie at all. Like she really, no,

Anne (40m 4s):
There are a couple scenes where I feel like I’m like, oh this is really cute. Like there’s like a post sec, the post sex scene where she’s like,

Ashley (40m 10s):
That’s true, you’re

Anne (40m 11s):
Right. And like that looks like Drew. Like it’s, but most of it’s her smile. I know, but most of it, it really doesn’t feel like her,

Ashley (40m 17s):
Which is cool. It’s kind of fun to like have something so outta the box like that. For her

Movies That Made Us Gay (40m 22s):
It was fun today to, to double feature them that we watched The Amy Fisher Story last night. And then I watched Poison Ivy this morning ’cause it had been a while since I watched it. So I, yeah, I sat down and had my morning cup of coffee and I watched all of Poison Ivy

Ashley (40m 34s):
As you do.

Movies That Made Us Gay (40m 37s):
It’s kind of really interesting to see her do these two rolls back to back. Oh yeah. And I forget how good she is in Poison Ivy. Yeah. It’s kind of how really she just really knew that character and that you’ve never really, you’re always kind of on Ivy’s side oddly through

Anne (40m 55s):
Yeah.

Ashley (40m 56s):
Yeah. ’cause she’s so charismatic or something.

Movies That Made Us Gay (40m 58s):
She’s so charismatic and she worked so well with Sarah and you can really tell in that movie that like, this movie was made by a woman. Yeah. Like I, if Poison I do is handed off to like a man, it probably turns a little even more Bemo. Schlocky. Yeah. But it all works though.

Ashley (41m 14s):
I know. It’s so it’s gonna be fun when we finally cover that one, but we’ll have a lot to say. I mean

Anne (41m 18s):
Is isn’t it kind of insane to think like, okay, so this is like Drew Barrymore under 20 playing these like very mature, sexy roles and then the person Drew Barrymore doesn’t even think of herself as like sexy. She’s like, I am just playing a role. Like that’s not me. I get to like pretend I’m that person. And then you look at her and it’s like she knows exactly what she’s doing. You know, like, I dunno. But it’s, it’s amazing to think like, I don’t know, just looking at the person and who she’s portraying and just how like charged she is as those characters. I don’t know how powerful. Yeah. And then it’s like, it’s just this person who thinks she’s a dork. It’s like, what?

Movies That Made Us Gay (41m 58s):
Yeah. I think we might have to pull a triple feature and, and finally finish Doppelganger. Oh, oh, oh my

Ashley (42m 6s):
God. Is it gonna be gun crazy or doppelganger? Those are the other, like from this era doppelganger. Have you guys ever seen it all the way through?

Movies That Made Us Gay (42m 13s):
I have. I’ve seen bits and pieces of it. We live in the doppelganger neighborhood. Yeah. We’re very close to her. We’re very

Ashley (42m 18s):
Close to the apartments.

Movies That Made Us Gay (42m 20s):
We’re about like less than 10 minutes away from it.

Ashley (42m 22s):
Yeah, that is, that is an interesting, Drew’s famous quote on that is, you’d rather stick pins in your eyes than watch that movie.

Movies That Made Us Gay (42m 31s):
Yeah, I watched it on cable. I think it was made for cable and I just

Ashley (42m 37s):
Remember. Yeah, probably.

Movies That Made Us Gay (42m 38s):
Yeah. I just remember like, oh, George Newburn. I love him. He’s so cute. Oh, Drew. I love her. Of course I’m gonna watch this and then just, it’s very LA like there’s a lot of, like they go to this restaurant in MacArthur Park that’s kind of like a famous historic like old like deli diner situation. And, but yeah, the monster is insane. I know they’re trying to go for a very like Vertigo esque kind of situation.

Ashley (43m 4s):
It’s actually supposed to be inspired by breakfast at Tiffany’s. Can you guys believe that?

Movies That Made Us Gay (43m 9s):
Okay.

Ashley (43m 10s):
Alright. And you can, there’s little things where when you know that you’re like, okay. But it’s, I remember when I rented that movie when I was like, so it’d be like 99 when I’m getting into Drew and I have her IMDB printed and highlighting ’em as I go to Blockbuster. And then I must have returned it late. And I was there later with my mom and she’s like, what is this movie? We have a late fee gang evil gangs Doppelganger the Evil within. I’m like, oh, that was me.

Anne (43m 36s):
Evil gangs hold. I forgot. I just, my brain would couldn’t stop thinking about this picture. So I just had to Oh

Ashley (43m 44s):
Darling.

Movies That Made Us Gay (43m 48s):
Well look again with the long dark hair.

Ashley (43m 50s):
Yeah. It’s actually pretty similar in wig to Amy

Movies That Made Us Gay (43m 56s):
And Amy Fisher. You’re welcome. The real hair of Amy Fisher. I mean it’s that type of like mouse brown that like really dirty brown hair. Oh, well, I mean, not to like, like judge hair color, but you know, it’s just that it’s,

Anne (44m 11s):
But not to judge hair colors, but dirty mousey brown. But

Ashley (44m 16s):
They went likey red in the wig. Yeah. There’s like red tones for sure.

Movies That Made Us Gay (44m 22s):
Well I also love the very early nineties kind of makeup styling that brick red Yeah. That she has. And also in doppelganger, I think too, she’s got a very dark red,

Ashley (44m 34s):
A lot of dark lips in the early nineties. I loved all of her wardrobe in this movie. I was like really feeling it

Anne (44m 41s):
Like

Ashley (44m 42s):
Bodysuits and like it was early nineties in an accurate way. Not like in a way you would try to make something look early nineties now. Right?

Anne (44m 51s):
Well

Movies That Made Us Gay (44m 52s):
A fast turnaround of all three of these movies is just Yes.

Ashley (44m 56s):
Mind blowing. It came out January 93. Like January 3rd.

Movies That Made Us Gay (44m 60s):
Yeah. Well

Anne (45m 1s):
That’s

Movies That Made Us Gay (45m 1s):
What Drew was, I think. Was she saying it to to to to Conan of just like, no, I didn’t go to meet her because like, there was no time happening in real time.

Anne (45m 10s):
She literally was in court when we were filming. Mary

Movies That Made Us Gay (45m 14s):
Was shot in May of 92 and the movie came out in January.

Ashley (45m 17s):
Yeah. That’s wild. Right.

Anne (45m 18s):
Well

Movies That Made Us Gay (45m 19s):
First of all Mary Jo, but Fico, I mean regardless of my feelings or anyone’s feelings about her, but this woman is like unsinkable. She gets shot in the head. Yeah. I, and she’s on the courthouse steps giving these interviews. Yes. Grant, she has nerve damage. She has, you know, hearing loss. Her face is partially paralyzed. But this woman is out there and she’s telling her truth. She’s ready for a press conference telling

Ashley (45m 48s):
Her truth. Fiercely too.

Anne (45m 50s):
But fiercely protecting Joey. Well, you know, it’s just like that part me, which is like, okay, okay, is he worth it? Is he worth it? Mary?

Movies That Made Us Gay (46m 1s):
The is we have to, we can’t defend but her,

Anne (46m 4s):
Her

Movies That Made Us Gay (46m 5s):
Conviction to all. To all of it. Yeah. Truly. And just like, like I said, shot in the head, nearly paralyzed, nearly dead. She’s worked on for hours and hours and hours. And like the next day is just like, it was that girl, it was that Fisher girl. You know, you’re just, wow. How, how does this woman just like still out there?

Anne (46m 26s):
Oh my God. Speaking of Drew being beautiful, which is always my input there. The scene when she like is on the lineup and she has to point her out. I was like, oh, Drew looks so pretty. Yeah, there’s a

Ashley (46m 37s):
Lot. I was like, Amy, Amy’s cute, whatever. But Drew’s like really pretty of this. I’m like, she’s a little more pretty than Amy.

Anne (46m 44s):
That’s thing

Movies That Made Us Gay (46m 45s):
Because they got this, what was her name of the, the, the, my story. Noelle.

Ashley (46m 49s):
Noelle Parker.

Movies That Made Us Gay (46m 50s):
No, Parker. And she looks the most like, yeah,

Ashley (46m 54s):
I agree.

Movies That Made Us Gay (46m 55s):
And then you get Alyssa Milano who launched Ariel like straight boy. Like every straight Gen X guy on earth is just like Alyssa Milano first crush right up there. And, and Drew just like this face. Right. They, they got the two of the prettiest, like pretty, they’re just, the both of them are just pretty, like there’s no other way.

Ashley (47m 22s):
You can’t hide it.

Movies That Made Us Gay (47m 23s):
Yeah. I dunno a lot about television life rights when you’re involved in something like this that, like was she just given a, just we want to use your story. Here’s a lot of money. Or were they tied to particular movies? Like, like I don’t know how that works.

Anne (47m 40s):
That’s like interesting. I actually don’t even know like TV

Movies That Made Us Gay (47m 43s):
Rights. I don’t know

Anne (47m 44s):
To have three things. They must have like, you know, they all paid a lot. Yeah. Or it was some batch

Ashley (47m 51s):
Deal.

Movies That Made Us Gay (47m 54s):
Unofficial. And I think the thing with life rights, like you’re saying Scott, like this isn’t like a Janie Glin Janis Johnson situation. Yeah. Because they didn’t put out any sort of product. We’re not licensing any, they have licensed previously. This is just all in the public. I mean, is it pretty much just ABC just saying, we wanna make a story of all these events, here’s a track. I think so. Yeah.

Anne (48m 18s):
Probably. I

Movies That Made Us Gay (48m 19s):
Mean, she would, so she would’ve had to have been paid by three networks then I, I guess

Ashley (48m 24s):
Rent and especially at that time, like who knows how those things worked. I, it’s probably totally different now.

Movies That Made Us Gay (48m 29s):
Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. But I think we’re really lucky with this because of the three with a story, because of the three different perspectives. But with this movie in particular, I just think that Drew is in such a unique period of her career and her life and, and all that. And and like we said, it’s just a few years later, like Wayne’s World is like,

Ashley (48m 53s):
Oh that’s like a second later. Yeah. Same year as this. It came out the same year.

Anne (48m 58s):
Yeah. And I

Movies That Made Us Gay (48m 59s):
Remember as a kid just say,

Anne (48m 60s):
It’s so weird. Look.

Movies That Made Us Gay (49m 1s):
And she looks so, and she’s gets to be Dr. I mean she’s B and Rigan, but she gets to be Drew.

Anne (49m 7s):
She, yeah,

Ashley (49m 8s):
She’s bubbly. So pretty in that scene.

Anne (49m 10s):
Yeah.

Ashley (49m 12s):
I love 93 Drew. She’s like especially gorgeous to

Anne (49m 15s):
Me.

Movies That Made Us Gay (49m 16s):
Yeah. It’s like all, I was a perfect age for Wayne’s World and I remember all my guy friends were just like, Drew Barrymore. Like she’s so pretty. Like they just loved her and Yeah. All my, all my straight guy friends, like to this day like still quote like oh B and Kegan and all that good stuff. But

Ashley (49m 35s):
Are you guys ever gonna cover Wayne’s World? That’s one of the only movies from my childhood that I feel like you guys haven’t touched on.

Anne (49m 43s):
It didn’t make them gay.

Ashley (49m 44s):
Yeah. I’m like, does it count? I don’t know. I’ll

Movies That Made Us Gay (49m 46s):
Gladly be in a throuple or with in like aor relationship with all of the crew members. Oh, that’s true. We love the, we love we love the crew members of Wayne’s World. All the guys that shoot each, all, all those MBOs that all,

Ashley (49m 59s):
All the long-haired metal dudes.

Movies That Made Us Gay (50m 3s):
Yep. That’s, that’s

Ashley (50m 5s):
Close enough. Right? You guys could do episode

Anne (50m 8s):
Not

Movies That Made Us Gay (50m 8s):
Alone. That’s our angle right there. But I mean, and Carrera, I mean I can we could we’ll talk. Yeah.

Ashley (50m 12s):
All just planting a seed for you. ’cause I was like, every movie that mattered to me, I was like, oh no Wayne’s world.

Movies That Made Us Gay (50m 20s):
You know, we, I feel like, you know, ’cause it’s just randomly on television, you know, cable, whatever. It’s always on demand too. Yeah. And I feel like one day I was just watching it and Scott’s like, you just watching, you’re just watching Wayne’s World now. I think I came home from work one night and we just watched the whole thing and just laughed. I love it. Like yeah. It’s Wayne’s world. It’s funny.

Ashley (50m 54s):
All right, back to Amy. And we have a couple notes we wanna just touch on real quick. So Anna and I made the exact same note for our beginning of our notes, like almost verbatim.

Anne (51m 3s):
It’s actually really funny. I,

Ashley (51m 5s):
All I did was I was cracking up. I don’t know, are you guys familiar with Mad Love? Did you guys ever watch that one from 95? I remember

Movies That Made Us Gay (51m 11s):
Watching Mad Love with her and her and Chris O’Donnell. Chris O’Donnell.

Ashley (51m 13s):
Yeah. Yeah. It’s a Drewbie favorite. It touches a lot of people’s souls. But anyway, the opening scene of this movie where Amy’s in the hospital and and I both were like typing this looks just like the scene in Mad Love where she’s in the

Anne (51m 26s):
Hospital. Well and we both use the word reminiscent. Reminiscent

Ashley (51m 29s):
Because we share a brain. Apparently we had to mention that.

Anne (51m 33s):
Yeah. Because I literally, it was like it started and I was like, this really feels like mad love. And it’s weird to think it’s like only a couple years later. Yeah. Which is really strange.

Ashley (51m 42s):
Super weird.

Anne (51m 43s):
Very strange.

Ashley (51m 44s):
And then I also wanna mention all the like prop photos. We love when they Oh yeah. For movies when they take actual photos of the person in character. But it’s not just like a still from the movie. ’cause I hate that. Yeah. So I loved her school picture. I thought it was so cute. And then all of the newspapers, I was sitting there going like, oh, I wonder what happened to all these prop newspapers with Drew as Amy.

Anne (52m 6s):
We need them for the Drew zm, whoever has them.

Movies That Made Us Gay (52m 10s):
I’m sure that Andy, Andy has it in his office.

Anne (52m 12s):
Oh, there we go. We’ll reach right out to Andy and tell him if he wants to donate them, put us in his will for the Amy Fisher story. Prop newspapers please. I’m asking.

Ashley (52m 25s):
I tried to connect with him when we did our ever after episode, but he, I think I sent him a message. He never saw it. So we’ll keep trying.

Anne (52m 31s):
It’s funny how sometimes Instagram has been like amazing for us for connecting. Yeah. And sometimes it’s just people don’t know.

Ashley (52m 39s):
They don’t even see it.

Movies That Made Us Gay (52m 41s):
Yeah.

Ashley (52m 43s):
I’m always shooting my shot though

Movies That Made Us Gay (52m 46s):
Restrictions that it’s like, yes, what it was sent, but I don’t know, maybe did they receive it? I don’t know. Yeah. So that love though, I mean, so this is 95 and this is, you wanna talk about somebody launching a lot of ships? Chris O’Donnell? Yeah. With that Buzz cut ve been on our show.

Ashley (53m 4s):
Same, well Batman Forever, same summer. Like big time for both of them.

Anne (53m 9s):
I think he’s so boring. Sorry,

Movies That Made Us Gay (53m 14s):
He’s duller than like watching the paint dry. A hundred percent. But there’s a very, like there’s a meme that that just goes around on like gay Instagram and like gay Twitter of him in his robin suit saying like, you remember the moment you knew you were gay or like, oh my God. Amazing. The, the new version of it is drag queens reading a story aren’t gonna turn your kids gay, but Chris O’Donnell and Batman.

Ashley (53m 46s):
Absolutely will. That’s so good. Yeah. Yeah. Something about that buzz cut like that’s very, I like really, that’s like a very distinct memory for me. I think I had like a corn pops box where he was like on it as Robin and I cut it out. Oh my God, I’m having weird flash. But I

Anne (54m 2s):
Didn’t know you were such a, I

Ashley (54m 4s):
Wasn’t really but he was cute in that moment. Everybody was into him for a second.

Movies That Made Us Gay (54m 9s):
I, I think that he’s still kind of rocking the buzz cut too. You know, you find a look that works. Just stick

Ashley (54m 14s):
With, can’t blame him.

Anne (54m 17s):
He basically looks the same. He is just like, a little bit like wider.

Ashley (54m 22s):
Yeah.

Movies That Made Us Gay (54m 23s):
It feel like his

Anne (54m 23s):
Face is rounder.

Ashley (54m 25s):
Aren’t we all? And I have to point out something to you to see if you notice this. Okay. I don’t know if you guys know Confessions of a Dangerous Mind as one of our underrated favorites, George Clooney’s directorial debut. The, there it, so when the, the gross guy from the gym sells the tape and she sees it on tv, she does this look, that’s exactly the look she does in Confessions. When she catches Chuck cheating, where she like does a sad little smile and looks down and looks away. I have to make a comparison. I

Anne (54m 57s):
Didn’t notice it. Yeah, you’re gonna have to make a comparison.

Ashley (54m 59s):
It’s crazy. It’s the same angle and everything on her. Anyway, I just had to point that out to Ann ’cause I was excited about it.

Anne (55m 7s):
Yeah, we love that shit. It’s

Movies That Made Us Gay (55m 9s):
A good, but it’s a good look because it’s that like, well, fuck me. I don’t know. You know what I mean? Yeah. You got me bitch.

Ashley (55m 15s):
Yeah. It’s not just like, oh, I’m sad. It’s like, oh God, are you kidding me? Yep.

Movies That Made Us Gay (55m 20s):
I know, but I know exactly the look that you’re talking about. ’cause I, I remember specifically going, all right, I like this choice. I like this choice of, of, of her reaction to just like, dammit. Like,

Ashley (55m 29s):
Yeah,

Movies That Made Us Gay (55m 31s):
Alright. It’s kind of too bad when I’m remembering Confessions of a Dangerous Mind that she didn’t get more critical attention for.

Ashley (55m 38s):
I know. I

Movies That Made Us Gay (55m 40s):
Remember watching an interview with Renee Zellweger, where she was on like a morning talk show or something, and she was just raving about Drew.

Ashley (55m 46s):
Really? Oh, that’s so cool.

Movies That Made Us Gay (55m 49s):
I love Confessions of A Dangerous Mind. Drew Barrymore. It’s one of my favorite performances of the year. But yeah,

Ashley (55m 56s):
I know she was that one’s, it’s one of my favorites. It’s just really, there’s a lot of range in it and yeah, I just, we, we love that movie

Anne (56m 4s):
And a lot of subtlety. Like, I feel like that the, like the way that she, the way that her character is, is very subtle. I don’t know. It’s, I don’t, it also is not very true in a lot of ways,

Ashley (56m 15s):
Which is always fun to see her just being different because

Anne (56m 19s):
I mean, we love her being her, obviously.

Ashley (56m 21s):
Like, I don’t want her to be like that person. Drew Barrymore, I don’t like now.

Movies That Made Us Gay (56m 27s):
Yeah. To me it was just like brown hair in, in riding with cars, with boys. I’m just like, what a change. Yeah.

Ashley (56m 35s):
That one is not a favorite of mine. I am on the record stating that.

Anne (56m 40s):
I feel like there was one podcast we did where you were like, it keeps coming up.

Ashley (56m 44s):
It really does. You were

Anne (56m 47s):
Like mad.

Movies That Made Us Gay (56m 48s):
The most interesting part of her doing the press tour for riding in Cars of Boys is, do you remember when she hosted SNL

Ashley (56m 55s):
Of for that course right after nine 11? It was right after

Movies That Made Us Gay (56m 58s):
Nine 11. And they were advised not to do the show, right? Yeah.

Ashley (57m 2s):
There was The Anthrax scare happen while they were doing rehearsals.

Movies That Made Us Gay (57m 6s):
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and, and if they wouldn’t have done that show, we wouldn’t have like the Wesley Arms hot tub scare. Yes. Be missing out. We

Ashley (57m 16s):
Were just talking about that one.

Movies That Made Us Gay (57m 19s):
Oh my goodness. Wow. Yeah. Iconic.

Ashley (57m 22s):
I love that you guys know that. Oh my God. Yep.

Movies That Made Us Gay (57m 26s):
We’re big SNL fans. I I’m an apologist for this show. I don’t buy into this like, well, I stopped watching on Yeah. This Grow Up. It’s,

Ashley (57m 36s):
That is such a thing. It hasn’t been good since blah, blah, blah. Yeah.

Anne (57m 40s):
It’s like, no, it’s there, there are phases, you know? Yeah. Of when it’s better and when it’s not. It’s like, but no, it’s not black and white. It’s not the old stuff.

Ashley (57m 48s):
There’s no cutoff line.

Anne (57m 50s):
I mean, when I was growing up though, we had a tape of like, I don’t know what anniversary it would’ve been, but we had a VHS tape recorded, I think it was like the 25th Saturday Night Live anniversary or something. And so I watched and re-watched a bunch of stuff from the seventies when I was a kid. I was not getting these jokes.

Movies That Made Us Gay (58m 7s):
Yeah.

Ashley (58m 8s):
I used to watch them too as a kid. They would show it before the new ssn l so they would show like a seventies episode. I don’t know where my parents ever were. I was just like, I’m gonna watch this adult. I was watching Tracy Oman show by myself at like six years old. Like, I don’t know what was happening.

Movies That Made Us Gay (58m 27s):
Old l after the new episode. They would, they would usually do an old one. Okay.

Ashley (58m 31s):
That’s a really late,

Movies That Made Us Gay (58m 32s):
Do you remember who from SNL did the Amy fixture? I, I was kind of wondering if they had anybody else besides her do it. I’m sure that back in like the early nineties, they had somebody beat Amy in a sketch. But it was a, I think that it was around when she got out of prison in 99 and it Sherry o Terry.

Ashley (58m 51s):
Ooh, that’s a choice.

Movies That Made Us Gay (58m 54s):
Amy Fisher with, with Colin Quinn.

Ashley (58m 56s):
How was her? Amy Fisher pretty good.

Movies That Made Us Gay (58m 58s):
Not really. She doesn’t really do the accent. Do that accent. Yeah. It’s a, it’s just like, oh, you’re, you’re outta jail now and what are you, you know what’s going on? And does a couple of things where she’s stable, but then she kinda like goes off and loses it. The

11 (59m 12s):
Long Island Lolita herself. Amy Fisher.

13 (59m 20s):
Thank you Colin. Wow. It is so great to be out. I mean, you don’t know how good it feels to finally put on my old cutoffs and see through Halter Top and stroll around the neighborhood like a regular person. I mean,

Movies That Made Us Gay (59m 36s):
Yeah, but we didn’t, we didn’t really do a deep dive into that. That one just kind of popped up in our YouTube, so

Anne (59m 42s):
That’s funny.

Movies That Made Us Gay (59m 43s):
Yeah. I, I, I don’t remember because I was definitely watching SNL at the time too. Like I, I’ve kind of watched my whole life. Yeah,

Ashley (59m 50s):
Same.

Movies That Made Us Gay (59m 50s):
So yeah. So I, I have vague memories of their being sketches, but I, I just can’t, can’t place them right now.

Ashley (59m 57s):
Now somebody else will be yelling at their radio about how we don’t know stuff.

Anne (1h 0m 3s):
We can’t research every facet.

Ashley (1h 0m 6s):
I can know everything about Drew, but,

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 0m 10s):
But I mean, Drew and I know like that five timers club, you know?

Ashley (1h 0m 15s):
Yeah.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 0m 16s):
How many women are in the five timers club? Not that many. So

Ashley (1h 0m 21s):
I know it’s been so long too. She hasn’t been on a host since 2009, which is just, wow. What’s going on? She’s in New York all the time now. Yeah,

Anne (1h 0m 30s):
They should have her come on.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 0m 32s):
Do you think that she’ll ever get back into making movies?

Ashley (1h 0m 36s):
Oh, that, oh, that reminds me. I have something to tell you guys. Okay, so just this week Ross Matthews was asking her, you know, what would it take to get you back? And she said that she really is talking to Adam Sandler about projects that they’ve been joking with Jennifer Aniston to do a threes company. But Drew said what she wants to do is death becomes her.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 1m 0s):
Oh my goodness. I mean this, this, this death becomes her remake that’s been going around the internet for the past like five years.

Ashley (1h 1m 7s):
But I’m, I’m here for it.

Anne (1h 1m 10s):
But I could, I could see it with Jennifer Aniston Drew and Adam, Adam Sandler Sandler, Adam Sandler. Like it kind of works.

Ashley (1h 1m 19s):
Is it, is this like sacrilegious?

Anne (1h 1m 23s):
No, but I love Death becomes her Me Too. Deeply. Deeply. Yeah. So I’m like, no, don’t do it. But I’m also like,

Ashley (1h 1m 30s):
Ooh, but

Anne (1h 1m 31s):
Hold on. But who’s gonna be the, is it Isabella Rosa? Mm.

Ashley (1h 1m 35s):
Right.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 1m 36s):
We, we need, yeah, so I mean, the big one that goes around on Twitter every couple of years is this image. And it’s been going around for years now. And every time it goes around, everybody jumps in the comments and they’re just like, why remake this? This is terrible. And the image is, it’s usually Anne Hathaway, Kate Hudson, Kate Hudson, and Lady Gaga. And Lady Gaga.

Ashley (1h 2m 0s):
I’m not seeing Anne Hathaway. I don’t get that one. I

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 2m 3s):
Can’t remember who’s the, who’s the, who’s the Bruce? Well, yeah, I can’t remember who’s, who’s Bruce in that one. But yeah, I guess Anne Hathaway would have to be Meryl Stre.

Ashley (1h 2m 14s):
I guess so. Because you gotta have Kate be Goldie, right? Yeah.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 2m 17s):
Kate Goldie. And then I’ve also been seeing this rumor, it’s even trickled up to people like Jessica Chastain saying that I saw something online that people think that we should do a Death Becomes Her remake. What do you think of that Anne Hathaway? So it’s even like the rumor has like where these huge a-list stars are starting to comment on it.

Anne (1h 2m 41s):
Interesting. I’m

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 2m 42s):
Drew and Jen Anniston are in. I’m in. Yeah. Yeah. Get outta here.

Ashley (1h 2m 47s):
Okay. Which part do we want Drew to play?

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 2m 50s):
That’s the question. I think that sh I think they would,

Anne (1h 2m 55s):
I kind of think she has to be the Goldie, but I Yeah,

Ashley (1h 2m 58s):
Yeah. That’s where I go.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 3m 0s):
I, yeah, I think so too. I think they would both be good in either, but I kinda like Jen Aniston as

Ashley (1h 3m 8s):
Madeline.

14 (1h 3m 10s):
I think that,

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 3m 10s):
I think that Jen and Aniston kind of has a more Meryl Streep. I think she as Madeline, I, I would like to see her do Madeline Ashton. Yeah. I, and I think Drew could definitely do Helen. And it’s like, it doesn’t have to be one for one. We don’t, don’t have to do food and we don’t, you know, it doesn’t have to be this like one for one remake. I, I think they could just do something new with these characters, but I don’t know. I like it.

Ashley (1h 3m 36s):
All right. You heard it here first.

14 (1h 3m 39s):
I’m mixed about it.

Ashley (1h 3m 42s):
We’ll all watch it. If it happens though. We’ll say that.

Anne (1h 3m 45s):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, when that came up I was like, Ooh. Like interesting

14 (1h 3m 53s):
Murder mystery.

Ashley (1h 3m 55s):
I haven’t watched that.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 3m 57s):
You watched Murder Mystery? I watched the first one. I didn’t watch the second one, but I thought it was, it was fun.

Ashley (1h 4m 1s):
Okay. Yeah. That’s how I feel like I’ll feel about it when I finally get around to it. Like, oh, it’s fun.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 4m 7s):
You know, Scott And I always say like, what’s your favorite like Adam Sandler movie And it’s like, obviously it’s the, the Drew collaborations. Yeah. Yeah. And I just, I think it’s gotta be Wedding Singer.

Ashley (1h 4m 18s):
Yeah.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 4m 19s):
Because yeah, just because the Hawaii one 51st States States is a little cuckoo.

Ashley (1h 4m 27s):
There are definitely some things in 51st states that I’m gonna be like when we cover that. Like that didn’t age well. Well I feel

Anne (1h 4m 33s):
Like the Wedding Singer is like a good film anyway. And I think 51st dates, like the story’s kind of weak, you know, like, but Drew is very cute in it. And I swear I’m not the shallow swear. She’s so pretty in, it’s so pretty as the Murdering Psycho, not murdering Attempted Murderer 51st States. I love it because it was like, I was, I’m such a fan and I have been a big fan

Ashley (1h 5m 5s):
At that time. Yeah, yeah.

Anne (1h 5m 6s):
I was a big fan through that. So it’s like,

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 5m 9s):
And they just, they work so well together in it. Like it’s just, it’s them. That’s why we love it, you know? Yeah. But it’s like, yes,

Anne (1h 5m 16s):
His,

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 5m 17s):
His character is wild.

Ashley (1h 5m 20s):
Yeah. He’s doing some stuff that you’re like,

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 5m 24s):
What the hell? Yeah.

Ashley (1h 5m 27s):
I definitely think Robbie Hart in the Wedding Singer is a much like more sympathetic character. The wedding singer is what got me in love with Drew. So that’s like always gonna be a special place in my heart. ’cause I was just like, I, that’s it. I love her. I watched her promoting it on Letterman and Rosie and then I went and saw the movie and that was it. That was it.

Anne (1h 5m 49s):
The rest is history.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 5m 51s):
I’m holding out for her to come back to movies.

Ashley (1h 5m 53s):
I hope so. People ask all the time. It definitely sounds like Adam is gonna be the key to getting her back. They

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 5m 60s):
Have a pretty big break with the talk show of that. They have a good, yeah,

Ashley (1h 6m 5s):
It was few months or

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 6m 6s):
So,

Ashley (1h 6m 6s):
Whether or not quite a few months last time. Well, part of that was the strike. We won’t talk about that. But yeah, I think it’s more, she said she just doesn’t wanna be another person. She wants to be her kid’s mom. Like it’s definitely has to do with her kids. But as they’re getting older, I think it’s more and more likely. Yeah. Let’s hope Fingers.

Anne (1h 6m 25s):
I’m excited to see it. I feel like she can’t stay away from it forever. No. You know, like

Ashley (1h 6m 30s):
She’s a very more, give

Anne (1h 6m 33s):
Her a drink and make

Ashley (1h 6m 35s):
Devil. That’s an SNL quote too.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 6m 39s):
Side tangent about the Barry Moores of that ever. We’re in Calvary Cemetery in East la. We go to visit my grandma. We go to visit Pete’s grandma. And if you go in the old mausoleum, ’cause all of the old cemeteries here have an old mausoleum and you can usually walk into ’em if it’s not like Michael Jackson and Glendale or Yeah. You can usually walk into them and you can kind of look at everybody that’s there. And is it Lionel?

Ashley (1h 7m 5s):
Oh

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 7m 6s):
You can visit my grandma. We’re walking around the, the mausoleum because it’s so beautiful and we’re like, I bet you there’s some famous people here. So we find, and I always hop on Google to see what famous people are buried where. So

Anne (1h 7m 16s):
I love it. That’s something to do.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 7m 17s):
We find a couple of Barrymores. I think Ethel is there and I think Lionel is there. And they’re in the mausoleum. So they’re in the wall and, and Lionel is kind of closer to the ground. And as you go up and you look at it, last time we were there, there was big red lipstick, a big red kiss on it. And we were like, it’s true. Do you think it’s true? It’s true.

Ashley (1h 7m 38s):
It totally could be. She kisses her own freaking star on Hollywood Boulevard and that’s pretty nasty. So. Absolutely.

Anne (1h 7m 46s):
Aw. I’m surprised. I’ve never looked it up. I’ve never thought

Ashley (1h 7m 49s):
I know that. I think maybe John’s in Philadelphia. I think that’s where their family is from. So somebody’s over there. So yeah. The other two may be, oh, that’s so cool you guys. Now we gotta go check it out sometime. Yeah.

Anne (1h 8m 1s):
Yeah. Who else would kiss it,

Ashley (1h 8m 3s):
Right? Yeah, that’s exactly gonna, who else could it be?

Anne (1h 8m 7s):
I mean, she feels like she has a connection to this family.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 8m 9s):
She never, and also like Valentino, it’s like a Barrymore. So yeah.

Ashley (1h 8m 13s):
Yeah. Mr. Potter. I don’t think, think like he’s a big heartthrob.

15 (1h 8m 19s):
Well, what’s your point, Mr. Potter? My point, my point is I want to hire you. Hire me. Yeah. I want you to manage my affairs. Run my properties. George, I’ll start you out at $20,000 a year. Yeah.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 8m 34s):
That’s such a Drew move. Like you said, kissing the star and all that. It was very her and it was like, I don’t know how fresh the lipstick was, but it, you know, it was there. You could see it, you know. So

Ashley (1h 8m 45s):
Put some flower beauty on. It’s from like 20 years ago. It’s just like, they don’t, they don’t clean it. You guys, thank you for telling us that. I love when we have a guest that gives us new info. It doesn’t happen that often. So I’m like, yeah,

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 9m 1s):
Just doing the cemetery tour around LA is just so fascinating. Like Hollywood Forever, Calvary Glendale. Yeah. You can see the, the world’s largest painting in Glendale. Oh, of course. Of all, of all like, like tourist traps. Yep.

Ashley (1h 9m 16s):
I’ve only been to the one, is it in Westwood where Marilyn Monroe is? I’ve been to that one. And that’s it.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 9m 21s):
I think so I think

Ashley (1h 9m 23s):
That’s something we should do next time. Ann, we like going to locations. We’ve done a lot of like filming locations. It’s like a whole section on our website. We’re into all that stuff. Yeah. So I was like, oh cool. You live close to where like the doppelganger apartment is. That’s awesome. I’ve never even thought of where that would be.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 9m 41s):
I’ve always wanted to track down that, the mansion from Poison Ivy. ’cause we know, oh,

Ashley (1h 9m 45s):
We’ve been to that. We’ve been, we’ve been, it’s, we probably have the address on our website. We do. Yeah. It looks actually, we’ll I’ll send you guys some pictures. It looks pretty much exactly the same. It’s pretty exciting. It’s really cool.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 9m 58s):
Listen, it’s kind of not too far from where we are too. We’re kind of in the middle of Silver Lake. Let’s feel us in Hollywood. So we’re, yeah, so we’re kind of centralized and I mean, movie locations, we were, you know, like we said, we lived in Pasadena and South Pasadena. We would have, we would take friends to, you know, go see the, like Halloween. I can give the full Halloween walking tour. Yeah.

Ashley (1h 10m 19s):
Nice. So fun. I love that. That is awesome. You guys probably have visited my friend Lindsay’s website. I am not a stalker.com. Yes, she has. Yeah. That’s Lindsay’s Lindsay Blake, she’s our buddy. She’s helped us with a lot of locations. Yeah, she’s like the master a

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 10m 34s):
Lot when you look up. Yeah, she, yeah, I, I, I just found, stumbled upon her website. Just looking up. Yeah,

Ashley (1h 10m 40s):
Me actually, she’s another one that I found and I was like, I love everything you do now you’re gonna be my friend. And I made her be my friend. Just like you guys.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 10m 51s):
I’m

Ashley (1h 10m 51s):
Not Aer very sure. Yeah, Ashley is an active stalker, but she makes herself known, so it’s okay. I’m friendly about it. Yeah. A very friendly stalker. She does exactly how to find the people she loves and wants to make her own. Thank you. Alright, do we have anything else we wanna say about The? Amy Fisher Story?

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 11m 14s):
I do.

Ashley (1h 11m 14s):
Okay. Let’s hear it.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 11m 16s):
I’ve always kind of wondered of looking at somebody like Ryan Murphy. Do you think they would ever dig up The Amy Fisher Story and do a new miniseries? I don’t know if it would be like American crime story, Amy Fisher. If it would just

Ashley (1h 11m 32s):
Be, yeah.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 11m 33s):
Do you think these events are worth taking another look at now if you were to do a new miniseries or something?

Ashley (1h 11m 41s):
I could totally see that and I could definitely see it like, even more so with the angle that this one sort of took with the journalist. Like really looking at it again from the, a new lens of like, this was an underage girl and this is how she was treated. Like, it could be really interesting.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 11m 57s):
You could get all of the sides, you could get Mary Jo’s side, you could get stuff with Joey. I, I just, all of these guys that she tried to buy these guns off of that got drug right. Got dragged into this. I think it would be interesting. And also Mary Jo and Joey’s kids are Yeah. Like all our ages. Oh

Ashley (1h 12m 15s):
Yeah.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 12m 16s):
They’re closer to my age and they’re grown now. So it’s like, you know, they would’ve been children at the time, but still kind of aware of everything that was going on, especially with movies and things. What a trip. So they, they would be an interesting kind of angle to get to, to talk about. So yeah, I think that there’s definitely, there’s a, people of a certain age may be unaware of this, I think. Yeah.

Ashley (1h 12m 40s):
Or my husband who’s not even of a certain age. He’s, he’s not way younger,

Anne (1h 12m 44s):
I promise. I like how in the movie they had someone like outside the courtroom that’s like, who’s

Ashley (1h 12m 49s):
Amy? Yeah,

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 12m 52s):
That’s right. No,

Anne (1h 12m 56s):
Doesn’t ring a bell.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 12m 58s):
Those huge tabloid stories at the time that just got kind of lost with a generation and a half that nobody really anymore.

Ashley (1h 13m 6s):
No, I really like in my memory, so I was 10 and I just roll this in with Tanya Harding and Yep. Lorena Bobbit. Like this is, it all was like the same time. It’s like tabloid tv craziness. And then OJ happened and it was

Anne (1h 13m 24s):
OI was just gonna say for me, I feel like I remember OJ more than any of the other ones. Yeah. I’m like slightly younger. So I guess it like makes sense just a couple of years later, I don’t know.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 13m 33s):
And I, I think I was at the stage, I, I watched a lot of tv, same

Ashley (1h 13m 39s):
Too much

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 13m 39s):
TV and I was watching SNL and Late Night and all that stuff. So I feel like, you know,

Anne (1h 13m 46s):
The commentary

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 13m 48s):
Yeah. You know, the hosts, late Night hosts at that time, I don’t think there were, there was a lot of scrutiny of the jokes that they were making or just kind of nobody in the writer’s room just being like, you know, I know this is kind of a crazy story, but maybe we shouldn’t be making jokes about this girl that’s 17. Yeah. Yeah.

Ashley (1h 14m 8s):
That was not a thing at all. They didn’t care.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 14m 11s):
And I think, you know, I think Letterman of course, has kind of been somewhat put through the ringer for kind of the way he treats women and, you know, some of his interviews and things like that. I feel like Jay Leno’s come out of all this kind of smelling like a rose and he wasn’t exactly, you know, a Boy Scout.

Ashley (1h 14m 27s):
Yeah. Wasn’t that, wasn’t that in Pamela Anderson’s documentary? I think there’s a thing with Leno where she really had to like kinda set him in his place.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 14m 36s):
Yeah, absolutely. Documentary was so good.

Ashley (1h 14m 39s):
It was really good.

Anne (1h 14m 41s):
I didn’t see it.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 14m 42s):
Oh, it’s great. But yeah, I do, I think it would be very interesting to see, or even if it was just like, I don’t know, just like a Hulu kind of like the Lorena Bobbit thing or that that was Amazon Prime. Yeah. I think that was Prime. But yeah, any kind of a documentary that has news people now reflecting on it. Yeah. Yeah. Which is always kind of, I

Ashley (1h 15m 4s):
Like it, you know what, this is what happens though. We’re gonna talk about it and then all of a sudden next week we’re gonna find out something’s in the works and we’ll be like, see.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 15m 14s):
Yeah. Yeah. That’s, that’s the biz.

Ashley (1h 15m 18s):
I am really glad that you guys like provoked us to rewatch this though. It had been a long time for me, but I still remembered so much of it. I was like, I guess I watched this more than I thought I did.

Anne (1h 15m 28s):
And on the flip side, I felt like I hadn’t even seen it. Yeah. Maybe once. Like I was like, amazing. I don’t remember this at all. Like her getting the car, like, I’m like, I don’t remember this scene at all. And her name is spelled a, I I know E because that all

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 15m 43s):
A pin striping on the car with her name. Oh my gosh.

Ashley (1h 15m 48s):
So nineties. But it was so fun to just like, again, see Drew be in this era of her career, which is always fascinating. And then be so not herself and not resting on being likable, which is something that she has been accused of and is even said that she does. And Amy is not that here. I did have a one quote from ID magazine. I thought this was cool. They said A Drew is, Amy is magnificently real, trapped, hurt, lonely, and morally vacant. I’m like, yeah, I see that

Anne (1h 16m 21s):
Accurate.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 16m 21s):
Yeah. That’s the thing. I feel like it was such a departure for her. And it’s like, I think, you know, for I, for a kind of a general audience, maybe somebody who’s doesn’t do the, the deep dives that the four of us do, I think, you know, you kind of have this idea of this character that she plays and you know, this just bubbly flower girl kind of a thing. And maybe it wasn’t until something like Great Gardens when people were just like, wow, maybe she really can do, do a little bit more. But for this being so early in her career, it was like, yeah, I don’t remember it being this much of a departure. Wow. I was just like, wow, she’s really, she’s really creating this character.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 17m 2s):
And I mean, for, for better or for worse, you know, what’s going on with the, the accent work. But you know, because we did watch so much of like news, they really did talk about it. Yeah. Like everybody,

Ashley (1h 17m 17s):
They all sound like caricatures.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 17m 20s):
The kids like the grown, they all have, this is a thick accent. And I don’t know if it’s the same town Massapequa, where Amy, where The, Amy, Fisher Story kind of took place. But I know Rosie O’Donnell and she always talks about how she grew up in the same neighborhood as the Baldwins Alec and Oh wow. His brother and I don’t, and maybe Massapequa it maybe the same neighborhood in Long Island. Yeah.

Anne (1h 17m 46s):
Oh, interesting.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 17m 47s):
Yeah. But it might be a, a neighboring one right around there. There’s like Comac and, and and Massapequa and then there’s, I mean, Montauk is further out, but yeah, I know that, that Rosie and the Baldwins weren’t pretty much neighbors and I think it was in the general vicinity and Rosie obviously has a different accent. Yeah. But there, you know, yeah. But yeah, all that stuff is just like, for her being 17, like, wow. Like that’s, that’s amazing. Like Jesus and, and to knock out these three in a row, she did what was the one right before this?

Ashley (1h 18m 22s):
So she did Poison, Ivy gun, crazy doppelganger this and then Bad Girls. So that was her little streak of bad, bad girls. Bad

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 18m 31s):
Girl. Oh man. Bad girls in years.

Anne (1h 18m 36s):
Yeah.

Ashley (1h 18m 37s):
Another one that’s not that great. But it’ll be fun to revisit.

Anne (1h 18m 41s):
Yeah, totally. And like you said,

Ashley (1h 18m 43s):
Actually you guys wanna come back for bad girls, just let us know.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 18m 47s):
And eyebrows in the wild, wild West.

Anne (1h 18m 49s):
Oh

Ashley (1h 18m 49s):
Yeah. Perfectly curled beautiful hair. But I am so thrilled that you guys came on. I appreciate you letting me stalk you and befriend you. And coming on the show is a true, like really exciting honor for me personally, so thank you so much.

Anne (1h 19m 8s):
Yes, thank you.

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 19m 9s):
Thank you for having us. And thank you for, for just like gassing us up on your show. Yeah. Like all of the shout outs we’ll have you on. We’ll have you on ours next year when we start recording new episodes. Absolutely.

Anne (1h 19m 19s):
Awesome.

Ashley (1h 19m 20s):
You heard of Hair first?

Anne (1h 19m 22s):
I’m excited. Thank you. Coming with all of the, the facts about Amy and stuff that like Yeah. And you guys like, I don’t know, you added this richness, this like lovely whipped cream on top of our just Drew,

Ashley (1h 19m 39s):
The whi cream and the cherry from you guys and where just the little chocolate Drew cake or the lasagna she threw away. Oh, I was so upset about that.

16 (1h 19m 49s):
Hi. I made dinner.

17 (1h 19m 52s):
Yes. I see.

16 (1h 19m 53s):
I know it looks big, but the rests for 10. Oh,

17 (1h 19m 56s):
It smells delicious, honey. How much cheese did you use?

16 (1h 20m 1s):
I don’t know, A couple of pounds or something.

17 (1h 20m 3s):
Oh, you know, sweetheart, we have to be careful when we’re cooking for your dad because it’s cholesterol who said he had to eat any,

Anne (1h 20m 9s):
I would’ve ate the shit out of that lasagna.

Ashley (1h 20m 12s):
I was like

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 20m 16s):
Worths. I know how lasagnas and expensive. How

Anne (1h 20m 20s):
Much cheese did you put in there?

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 20m 26s):
This was a pleasure. You guys are great. Thank you so much. Thank you for Thank you.

Ashley (1h 20m 29s):
Thank you.

Anne (1h 20m 31s):
All right everybody.

Ashley (1h 20m 33s):
You guys know what to do and you know where to find us. And if you don’t go listen to the last episode, we’ll tell you at the end of that one.

Anne (1h 20m 39s):
Yes. And where should people find you guys

Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 20m 42s):
We’re movies that made us gay. We are on, I mean we’re on everything. We’re on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, which I guess is now X blue sky. We’re all there movies that made us gay. Yeah. And we’re on pretty much every podcast listening Yeah. Platform. You can download an episode, you can download us. Yeah. If you, if you have an it’s pre-installed, otherwise Spotify. So yeah, go look

Ashley (1h 21m 5s):
For us. Or you can download 300 episodes like I practically did. Yeah. Okay. I know you don’t have that many more like probably 45.

Anne (1h 21m 13s):
Okay. You

Ashley (1h 21m 14s):
Guys were my top podcast on my Spotify wrapped. I found out yesterday. So,

Anne (1h 21m 19s):
All right everybody, check out movies that made us gay. Thank you so much for staying till the end and we’ll see you next Tuesday.

Ashley (1h 21m 26s):
Thanks guys. Bye-Bye.

Anne (1h 21m 29s):
Bye. Bye.

18 (1h 21m 32s):
You said we’d always be together. I never said that. You know, and if you need some time because it’s Christmas and stuff, I understand, just don’t say it, so don’t say it’s over. Don’t ever say it’s over.

Anne (1h 21m 60s):
This episode of the How Do You Drew podcast was researched and produced by Ashley and Anne from thedrewseum.com with help from our sponsor. Positive medium.

Ashley (1h 22m 9s):
Special thanks to Matt Costa for our lovely theme song, Roxy Prima, for our adorable logo. And last but not least, Drew, Barrymore and all the Drewbise who love her, we do this for you.

Anne (1h 22m 20s):
Thank you.

Episode 062 - Guest: Tony Crago Returns! - Transcript

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Anne (24s):
Okay. Woo

Ashley (25s):
Woo. Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew.

Anne (29s):
This is A Drew Barrymore Podcast, brought to you by the Drewseum dot com

Ashley (34s):
And sponsored by our friends at Positive Media.

Anne (37s):
I’m Anne.

Ashley (38s):
And I’m Ashley.

Anne (40s):
And hello. Hello

Ashley (42s):
Friends.

Anne (42s):
Welcome to the just Post Thanksgiving episode.

Ashley (47s):
Welcome to the Just Post You Hanging Out with Drew episode. If you guys didn’t hear that, that’s not an exaggeration. Anne and Drew hanging out, episode 61. Go check it out.

Anne (57s):
Hung out for a split second. It was pretty exciting guys.

Ashley (59s):
It was more than a split second, let’s be honest.

Anne (1m 1s):
Pretty exciting guys.

Ashley (1m 3s):
And you know what that reminds me? When Mila, my daughter, sent in the drawing for Drew in the first season of the show and Drew was reading it, my little letter that I sent with it, she goes, Ashley, don’t be a stranger. We’ve hung out many times. Like, oh

Anne (1m 19s):
Yeah,

Ashley (1m 19s):
I get, yeah. Something like that. Yeah.

Anne (1m 21s):
Many times in our dreams. Also. Also,

Ashley (1m 25s):
Also, yeah, I’m happy to not be a stranger. Drew just in come send me an invite. Here I come.

Anne (1m 32s):
We’ll be right there. Anytime. Anytime with bells on. Yep. Okay. So right at the top, we’ve got one of our favorite segments. So can you tell me about what Drew proclaimed her love for this past week? I love, love.

Ashley (1m 45s):
Let’s do it. Okay. So Drew loves to drive fast. We knew that.

Anne (1m 50s):
Yeah. He

Ashley (1m 51s):
Loves a gravy boat.

Anne (1m 54s):
I do too. It’s such a like specific little thing. It only comes out a couple times a year. Right?

Ashley (1m 60s):
She loves mustard. Same,

Anne (2m 2s):
Same, same, same

Ashley (2m 4s):
Horse radish. Not same.

Anne (2m 6s):
I think I need to experiment more with horse radish.

Ashley (2m 9s):
And then, did you know that Drew loves celery?

Anne (2m 12s):
I, I don’t think I realized just how much she loved it.

Ashley (2m 16s):
Let’s take a listen.

Anne (2m 18s):
Let’s hear this. Drew loves celery

3 (2m 21s):
Love, love celery. Clearly

Ashley (2m 25s):
That was one of her most passionate proclamations ever. I think.

Anne (2m 31s):
Oh my

Ashley (2m 32s):
Goodness. I also threw in a bonus hates because we love when Drew’s mad about something. She says, no thank you on garden knobs. Nothing pisses her off more than a garden gnome.

Anne (2m 44s):
What did she explain? No,

Ashley (2m 46s):
No explanation. I love that. Nothing pisses me off more than a garden gnome. Nothing.

Anne (2m 55s):
Nothing pisses me off. Alright, so how about our

Ashley (2m 59s):
Drewism of the week?

4 (3m 0s):
Oh, someone’s picking up, you know, those cool little isms that we do?

Ashley (3m 6s):
I’ll set it up context wise. So Drew had these two lovely security women from, what is it called? The Met Arena. Anyway, wherever she saw the Taylor Swift concerts, like a New Jersey or New York. And she made friends with these two women who were working security there. And Drew kind of told the story of how they became friends. Okay, let’s hear it.

5 (3m 26s):
When you came in, you just, the whole world just lit up When I saw you Truly.

4 (3m 31s):
That’s exactly how I felt about you guys. Like I really did. I just, I felt like we avatar tailed and we sort of plugged in and had this great connection. Yes.

Ashley (3m 45s):
I love it. So cute. I love when the Drewism includes a sound effect. Yes. As they often do. It’s, it’s whatever way she’s expressing something. Using like words or adjacent to words. Yeah. Sort of words. Yeah. Alright. Should we talk about some of the mail we got this week?

4 (4m 8s):
You’ve got mail.

Ashley (4m 10s):
I actually pulled two because I was just feeling it. Yeah. We have Catherine on Facebook after our episode last week about You’re going to the show. She had a really nice response. I’m gonna read it to you. Okay. She said yes and a bunch of hard eye emojis. How exciting. So happy Drew knows about the pod now. Hopefully a guest appearance crossed fingers. Yes. We are on the same page as you, Catherine. Yes. All of the fingers crossed all of the toes crossed. Yep. Putting it out there. Putting it out there. I mean, you know, we’ll keep you all in the loop if you’re regular followers. You know that we don’t hide much.

Ashley (4m 52s):
Okay. So what else did you pull? We also got a really lovely comment on our 1995 year in review episode page. That’s our episode 14. So Yolanda left us a wonderful comment there. Okay. I’m gonna go ahead and read it and we’re just gonna go for it unedited. ’cause this whole thing is just sweet. Hi Anne and Ashley, this is Yolanda again. Slowly making my way with catching up on the podcast. I hope it’s not too obnoxious to leave comments on old podcasts, by the way. It is not. Not. And we love it. Do it more everybody. Anybody. Always. Yes. But I had to on this one because, hello. 1995 Drew. Yep. I think this is my favorite era of Drew because it always brings back a magical time period in my life personally as well.

Ashley (5m 38s):
Being a teen in the nineties was truly so fun and magical. And Drew just represents that so well in 95, 96. I totally feel that. Yeah. Oh my God, I have such intense mid nineties nostalgia. So she says, going to grunge alternative concerts and just the free-spirited grounded raw energy of the time.

Anne (5m 57s):
I remember soaking up that Rolling Stone magazine. Drew seemed to be everywhere more than ever at the time. Totally. We’ve talked about that being like one of the Renaissances.

Ashley (6m 7s):
Yep.

Anne (6m 8s):
And I’ll let you take it from here. Okay.

Ashley (6m 10s):
And I totally relate to this, so it’s a great place for me to jump in. You Yolanda continued. All I watched was MTV back then. Shocker. He, he and looked at Rolling Stone and all the teen fashion magazines at that time. Sounds like my life. And she seemed to be everywhere and I just soaked it up. I remember also being jealous in a good way of Drew at that time because my friends and I were so into the Riot Girl grunge scene and Drew a smack dab in it all. Yeah. I also remember all the cool nineties dresses, ex girl shirts and chokers I used to have that I got rid of, which I regret so much now I could go on and on about this year. But just the feelings of being a wild and free teen back then just will always bring back such an indescribable feeling.

Ashley (6m 53s):
And this era will always be part of my memories of being a teen back then. I remember Drew really showing up more than she ever had before. I agree that this was a turning point in her career. Also, definitely enjoyed reliving these cherished memories through your podcast. Thank you.

Anne (7m 8s):
And thank you Yolanda. Like we live for somebody. Being able to like tap into an emotional, you know, memory thing for themself as well as being able to be like, yeah, Drew. Like this is, yeah, this is what we do this for. So

Ashley (7m 22s):
I think that that’s definitely like one of our themes of this podcast is nostalgia. We can’t really help it. Ah. And nineties, if you were a teen back then, you guys know, you understand Yolanda’s totally describing exactly what a lot of us feel. Yes.

Anne (7m 38s):
So good. Totally. Like even though we weren’t in it in 95,

Ashley (7m 43s):
Not in the Drew world, but I was way in the MPV Rolling Stone magazines. That was like all my life. Yeah. That’s all I did back then.

Anne (7m 53s):
My nostalgia is sort of like wishing that I had found it earlier,

Ashley (7m 57s):
You know? I love that.

Anne (7m 58s):
But we’ve got nostalgia up the wazoo, just like many other

Ashley (8m 1s):
Things.

Anne (8m 2s):
Okay. So what was Drew doing this week in history?

Ashley (8m 6s):
Okay. I was excited when I found this because she actually just talked about this recently. Oh cool. So we’re gonna set it up and then we’ll play the clip. So November 29th, 2002, Drew attended a Rolling Stones concert at the Hard Rock Hotel here in Las Vegas. By the way, that does not exist anymore. Oh

Anne (8m 27s):
Yeah, of

Ashley (8m 28s):
Course. It’s now the Virgin Hotel. But she attended it with Cameron and Lucy. Of course. This was like, I think they were in the middle of filming full throttle. So they totally have that look. They’re all wearing News Boy caps, which is hilarious. Couldn’t be more 2002.

Anne (8m 44s):
I didn’t even realize it. Drew’s got the big star on her cheek. Yes.

Ashley (8m 48s):
Which we’ve talked about. And

Anne (8m 50s):
It’s like big, it’s like when she really went diving in on drawing on the face.

Ashley (8m 53s):
Yes. She’s wearing a tie. Like this is total the early 2000 style. Yep. I did notice in a couple pictures in the background, you can barely see him, but Drew’s old, old, old friend, Brent Bolthouse was also there, which is fun. Oh cool. But anyway, so she had Hillary Duff on the Drew Barrymore show recently and they were discussing early two thousands styles. The funny thing is, this was the only one they showed of Drew that actually was from the early two thousands. The rest were from the nineties. Oh my God. Of course. You know me. I’m like, that’s from 1993. What are we talking about here? Oh my God. But this one was great. And Drew talks about that night Scar

4 (9m 29s):
On your face. I was going to the Rolling Stones concert in Vegas with Cameron and Lucy. Aw, fun. Yes. And I got way too drunk and was in the hallway late that night going, I’m an independent woman. And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get in the room.

Ashley (9m 54s):
Anyway, I thought that was really fun that she was so candid about that night. Yes. And you know, I’m, I’m happy to hear stories about when she did drink though. We know that she’s made a conscious decision not to. Yeah. But good that she can have a sense of humor about those times. Absolutely. I’m an independent woman I know, which I love little Charlie’s Angels in joke there. Yes. Okay, so before we get into our fun topic for the week, what’s new with Drew? Okay. Not too much, but we do know that she went to Nashville and it was to interview Dolly Parton, which is pretty cool. That’s cool. And I was kind of giggling to myself.

Ashley (10m 34s):
Hopefully we’ll get some sort of stories about this. But we know that she went to Dollywood with Nancy Jaan right before she was gonna start filming Home Fries in 96. So what if she shared some of those photos? Photos we’ve seen some. Remember she’s the black hair and she’s like on rides and stuff. I guess we’ll have to share one in this episode, but I hope that she shares more. That would be so cool. I hope that she talks about that. Me. That would be really cool. Me too. So anyway. Oh, and this is just a fun thing if people don’t know this, I think we’ve mentioned it before, but when she was in Dollywood, she got a necklace made that said Sally is like kind of part of her prep for home fries. Oh, so cute. I love that so much. So while she was in Nashville, she did her thing, and we’re gonna talk about this later too, where she was out in public and handed out Drew magazines at a coffee shop.

Ashley (11m 21s):
There is a video on Drew’s Instagram of her doing this, which is so cute. We’ll share the link in case you guys missed it. Yep. And then an Instagram user at Staria Clark, she posted a really cool picture of her and Drew with a really sweet caption kind of explaining what happened. Yeah. So I’ll go ahead and read the caption. I was sitting in the Thompson Nashville, which is a hotel having a morning coffee business meeting. And this woman comes up to me, hands me a magazine and goes, here’s a magazine just in case you need something to read. It took me a minute to register that It was actually Drew

Anne (11m 53s):
Barrymore. She hopped around the lobby and the coffee shop passing out copies of her magazine and taking pictures with people. What a beautiful person with bright, strong, loving energy. Such a cool celebrity sighting.

Ashley (12m 5s):
Love that.

Anne (12m 7s):
We love this. Yeah. And then as you’ll hear when you get into the main part of our episode, we talk a little bit about how Drew has continued to pass out copies of her publications as she had since the beginning of Flower Press.

Ashley (12m 20s):
I love the consistency.

Anne (12m 22s):
Yes. Okay, so now you read the title of the episode, you know that we have our friend Tony Craigo back on the episode. And you may have seen, for those of you who submitted questions on our Instagram, make sure you listen for your question here. ’cause I believe we used almost all of them. So

Ashley (12m 42s):
Yeah, we had some great ones. Yeah.

Anne (12m 44s):
So we had a great time talking to Tony. So here’s our conversation. Okay. Tony, welcome back to the height of your Drew pod. Tony.

Tony (13m 6s):
Thank you. It’s so good to be back admission ladies.

Ashley (13m 10s):
Yeah. You know what, you’re our first repeat guest ever.

Tony (13m 14s):
Ooh. Really? Isn’t

Ashley (13m 15s):
That cool? Yeah.

Anne (13m 17s):
And you said at the end of the first one, like, I’ll come back. So we’re like, we’re gonna take you up on that.

Ashley (13m 23s):
It took us a minute, but

Tony (13m 25s):
I had such a good time. And now look at you guys. You guys are, how many episodes in, you’re like, oh

Ashley (13m 29s):
This is, oh my gosh. 62. Yeah. That’s wild. You were on our episode 13 originally. So yeah, lots of time has gone by. We’ve done a lot.

Tony (13m 39s):
That’s cool. Woo, congrats. Congrats.

Anne (13m 43s):
Thank you. And thank you for all your support.

Ashley (13m 46s):
We actually gave you a thank you shout out in our last episode. So you’ll have to go listen to why.

Tony (13m 51s):
Oh, okay. Go.

Ashley (13m 53s):
Yeah, it was for, well it was for connecting us with Drew’s current assistant and helping Anne make that a fun adventure in New York. So that’s all kind of things to you.

Tony (14m 4s):
Yeah. Christina’s the best.

Ashley (14m 6s):
Yeah, we really appreciate it.

Anne (14m 7s):
We’re just learning how awesome she can be. Like we’re finally, we’re finally in.

Tony (14m 15s):
I know. She’s great. She is like, she takes on a lot. She’s always like, come back, come back. Help me. Aw. Like, oh, if only you we’re in New York.

Ashley (14m 24s):
I wish. Yeah. Well that’s actually, this was my question. Do you wish that the show and like Barrymore brands and all that were based in LA

Tony (14m 34s):
Oh yeah. A thousand persons. I, I don’t know why. I mean I know why she moved, but like it’s just like New York. No, but I mean they’re all thriving so I’m happy for them, but no, yeah, yeah. Was still all LA based. ’cause we’d all still be one big happy family. However, Christina May not be there. So everything happens for a reason.

Ashley (14m 53s):
That’s true. Yeah, it’s true.

Anne (14m 55s):
It had to happen so she could get that opportunity to be in the world to, to be brought into the fold, which of which we will all be brought into eventually. Hopefully.

Tony (15m 7s):
Yes. Selfishly. Selfishly I wish everyone was in la. Yeah.

Ashley (15m 12s):
Yeah. Makes sense.

Anne (15m 13s):
Yeah. I re-listened to our original interview with you and you said, yeah, Drew said she’d be pulled out of her house with a body bag. Oh.

Tony (15m 22s):
Say that’s not,

Anne (15m 24s):
I guess she’s dead now. I guess. That’s

Tony (15m 27s):
Exactly,

Anne (15m 27s):
I guess that’s what we have to come to terms of this

Ashley (15m 29s):
Is her ghost that we’re watching. Yeah.

Anne (15m 31s):
But also that makes sense now it makes sense for us to be the historians because it’s the past. Okay.

Tony (15m 36s):
Well I guess maybe that era of Drew is dead. Yeah,

Ashley (15m 41s):
Yeah. Oh, sad.

Tony (15m 44s):
Onto, onto the new newer one onto

Anne (15m 46s):
The professional talk show business lady who we still get the little bits of the Wild Gal and

Ashley (15m 53s):
Yeah, every once in a while.

Anne (15m 57s):
Okay. So we asked our listeners and followers on Instagram to send in some questions for you Tony. So we’re gonna go through, through ’em. I’m

Tony (16m 4s):
Scared.

Anne (16m 6s):
I

Ashley (16m 6s):
Don’t think there’s anything you should be scared of, but you’re gonna enjoy some of these. They’re, they’re pretty fun. Yeah. I really, thanks to everybody who submitted a question, we got a great response and that was very fun to see.

Tony (16m 16s):
Yes. Yeah. Very cool. I’m

Anne (16m 18s):
Excited. Okay. Are you ready? Yeah. So first question, what was the most fun part about being Drew’s assistant?

Tony (16m 27s):
Gosh, I mean, I had such a great time working with Drew. Like every day was different. That’s what I loved about it. ’cause it didn’t, it didn’t feel like for me, I, I had all types of jobs. I’ve worked in offices. Yeah. And it, to me it was just like every day was different. Like you never, you never knew showing up what to expect. Like one day we’re in LA just shopping around the next day we’re in Paris. I don’t know, it’s just different every day, which I love. So that and the experience that I got with her and the opportunities, like those are the best things that I’ll, I’ll always take with me.

Tony (17m 7s):
So I’m super grateful for those. Yeah,

Ashley (17m 10s):
That’s so cool. Kind of on the same track, two different people asked if you had a favorite memory with Drew

Tony (17m 18s):
Favorite. So I would have to say when she shot the movie Blended, ’cause we got to go to South Africa and that was the first time I was able to go to South Africa. And never in my wildest dreams would I have thought I’d be in South Africa. So I would have to say that one because it just, it was such a great opportunity and I met some amazing people, had some great experiences. Yeah, I think that was, yeah, that was the first movie that I had done with her professionally. So yeah, that was, that’s my thing. So yeah. And then I got to go to South Africa again on my own for like a month. So I, you know, being able to meet the people through her and experience what I did brought me back there.

Ashley (18m 3s):
That’s so

Anne (18m 3s):
Cool. Really cool. I like this question though. It’s vague. It says craziest moment with Drew and I actually was wonder, I mean that could, that could be interpreted whatever way you want.

Tony (18m 15s):
Yeah.

Anne (18m 16s):
What is the craziest moment?

Tony (18m 18s):
Moment? My gosh, there’s probably a lot.

Ashley (18m 23s):
I was thinking that too. How could you choose?

Tony (18m 26s):
I know, gosh, I have to really go back in my archives in my brain. No. Yeah. I don’t know. Let’s go back to that one.

Ashley (18m 34s):
Yeah, I love this one. This was one of my favorite questions. I hope you have an answer for this one. What’s the best gift that Drew ever gave to you? Oh,

Tony (18m 44s):
Oh, oh, oh. The best gift by far is she sent me and my husband to Greece.

Ashley (18m 53s):
Oh wow. Yeah, it

Tony (18m 55s):
Was pretty special. She just said one day she’s like, I wanna send you and Michael on a trip anywhere you want to go. And I was like, what? No, what are you talking about? You’re crazy. So then I came back and I’m like, well how about Greece? And she’s like, whatever you want. So yeah. So went to Santorini Konos and like yeah it was, it was pretty special.

Ashley (19m 18s):
That’s amazing.

Anne (19m 20s):
I love that.

Ashley (19m 21s):
That’s really cool. Great answer. Sweet. Yeah,

Anne (19m 24s):
It’s a good one.

Tony (19m 26s):
I know she’s, she’s got such a big heart. Always, always giving the best gift. Well then,

Anne (19m 31s):
Yeah, she like with that show she like redid Deborah’s whole house, right?

Ashley (19m 36s):
Oh yeah, that’s right. That was so awesome that just to watch that Anne. I know,

Anne (19m 41s):
I

Ashley (19m 41s):
Do.

Anne (19m 43s):
Okay. So I feel like this is on a similar track to the craziest thing, but this is a fun one. What’s one of the most surreal things you ever had to find for Drew?

Tony (19m 52s):
I mean there’s probably so many, again, so many things. But

Anne (19m 57s):
Again you’re trying to be like how can I,

Ashley (19m 59s):
Yeah, your eyes are twinkling. Like you have something funny to share.

Tony (20m 4s):
Oh gosh. Well we always had to have the iced tea.

Ashley (20m 7s):
Of course. Go back to that. We have questions about the iced tea. Believe or no matter

Tony (20m 11s):
Matter where we were, we had to find the iced tea. So that was probably the top of the list. Not that that’s out of the norm, but when you’re in South Africa and they don’t have to Java.

Ashley (20m 23s):
Right.

Tony (20m 24s):
You gotta find ways to get to Java.

Anne (20m 27s):
It always comes back to the tea.

Ashley (20m 29s):
Always. Yeah, always. We have a question about that. Approximately how many gallons of ice tea did she have a day do you think?

Tony (20m 39s):
Because

Anne (20m 39s):
This comes from my lovely partner Jared. Oh

Ashley (20m 42s):
That’s right. This is the one from him.

Anne (20m 43s):
He, he wanted me to say Jared from Moorpark asks approximately how many gallons have iced seeded Drew

Tony (20m 50s):
For dinner? Jared from Moore Park, she probably drank like at least one gallon for sure. It’s a lot. Yeah, for

Anne (20m 58s):
Sure. And is it those like glass bottles of tea Java that she would use

Tony (21m 3s):
Be like the regular, the small size or the big size. Okay. Whatever we had on hand.

Ashley (21m 8s):
Whatever Sandy,

Tony (21m 9s):
She would definitely. So those small bottles come in like a four pack? Yeah. Like if you get the big case, they come in like a four pack. She would definitely pretty much go through that entire, I mean we’d had stacks and stacks. She would at least go through

Anne (21m 22s):
Eight one pack.

Tony (21m 24s):
Yeah. Like crazy. Like just in the morning. She’s probably going through like three when she wakes up.

Anne (21m 31s):
Yeah. It’s so great. I mean when I was talking to her after the show, Anita pointed out, ’cause I was with our Drewbie friend Anita and she like pointed out that Drew like had her iced tea and she was like drinking it and chewing on her straw when she was talking to me. I was like, I didn’t even notice. It just felt so like normal. Normal just feels normal.

Ashley (21m 49s):
If

Anne (21m 49s):
She doesn’t have that in hand, like that would be weird. Yeah. Yeah.

Tony (21m 54s):
This is not iced tea.

Anne (21m 55s):
No, but is it one of the beautiful hydration cups though?

Tony (21m 59s):
No it’s not because Christina’s like, I’ll send you one. I’m like, where is it Christina? I haven’t

Ashley (22m 3s):
It reminder to Christina. And

Anne (22m 7s):
Yeah

Tony (22m 7s):
This is a lot stronger than iced tea but no, yeah, she drank a lot of it.

Anne (22m 14s):
That’s great.

Tony (22m 15s):
I always had to like, I’d had to like brew it and make my own to Java if I couldn’t find it.

Ashley (22m 21s):
Wow. Dedicated.

Tony (22m 22s):
We learn like what tasted the closest to it. Yeah. And have those like handy in case we couldn’t find the Well

Anne (22m 31s):
You said the PG tips last time.

Tony (22m 33s):
PG tips. Yeah. That’s

Ashley (22m 34s):
The Oh that’s right. We

Tony (22m 35s):
Would travel with those. You have a good memory. Yeah,

Anne (22m 37s):
I also just re-listened to the episode because I needed to be

Tony (22m 39s):
Fresh. Yeah, we talked about that. But yes, those I would travel with in my suitcase and you know,

Anne (22m 46s):
Just in case

Tony (22m 47s):
They didn’t have it over there. Or if we could find like a Starbucks or something that would have the closest.

Anne (22m 55s):
That’s amazing. I just love everything. I feel like I could just have a whole interview about her iced tea.

Ashley (22m 59s):
I know. Well it’s funny, people obviously were taken by it ’cause they submitted questions regarding it.

Tony (23m 5s):
That’s amazing.

Ashley (23m 6s):
Okay, someone else asked, what did you like most about her and what did you find most challenging about her?

Tony (23m 13s):
She is like, well the most giving and the most kind and the greatest soul. Like she just has the biggest heart. She always looked out for you. Just, she made you feel like, I mean we became a family. She made you, she just was always so welcoming and just, she brought you into everything and just was all inclusive. And I just love being in her presence. Like she’s just such a big presence and there’s just so much to like learn from her. Yeah. I mean she’s great in every area. The most challenging is probably that she has her hands in everything.

Tony (23m 54s):
So it’s like, I wanna do this, I wanna do this, I wanna do this. Yeah. It’s like constantly going. So keeping up with that is challenging because it’s like she’s tells you one thing and then she’s onto the next and like you just have to like figure it out and get it done and go with it and

Ashley (24m 13s):
Yeah. That that tracks.

Tony (24m 15s):
Yeah. Like she just, I remember like her magazine, Drew Mag, like it was just a paper and she’s just always had it in her and we’re always like, why does she wanna do this magazine? Why? Like no one’s going to get it. And like she would take it everywhere. We’d do these like out of her own pocket money, she would create these newspapers and we would like take them out everywhere. I remember we were at like a concert and we were like in the audience and she’s just like handing ’em out to people. I’m like, she’s still doing that to this day. And it’s so funny because I was with my friend Angela and we went to go see The XX with her in New York and we were handing out these magazines, all of us together.

Tony (24m 58s):
And we started off at like a, at a hotel. Like we were in the hotel, like bar like eating. And then all of a sudden we started handing out her magazines, newspapers. And then we go to this concert and we’re handing out these papers and then today to see her handing out these magazines again. I always send this clip to my friend. I’m like, look, she’s still doing it. It’s just so funny. She’s

Ashley (25m 21s):
Consistent. That’s for sure.

Tony (25m 23s):
She has it in her mind. She’s gonna get it done. Which I love. That’s so inspiring.

Ashley (25m 26s):
Yeah, it’s inspiring.

Anne (25m 27s):
It’s awesome. And actually we were talking about like the flower press newspaper version and how like we were like how did you get it? Because we, I think we have at least one of each of the issues.

Ashley (25m 39s):
Yeah, well they used to send them with Flower beauty purchases for a short little while. So that was another way they, but otherwise it was like you got lucky if you saw her at a concert and she handed that to you. Exactly.

Tony (25m 49s):
Star her in thet stands. Yeah.

Anne (25m 51s):
Hands on the ground like yeah, I love it. But it’s also like there are people who post about like their encounters with her at a random coffee shop. Yeah. Sparks. Because you know, it like gets her like actual physical being to promote this, this thing. But it’s like it’s Drew like

Ashley (26m 9s):
Pretty genius. Too bad we can’t go hand the podcast out somewhere.

Anne (26m 14s):
We could

Tony (26m 15s):
Little like Yeah, exactly.

Anne (26m 17s):
Or like thumb drives.

Tony (26m 19s):
Yeah.

Ashley (26m 20s):
You just plug this in your computer, it’s totally safe.

Anne (26m 24s):
No viruses, I promise. Yes. We’re Barrymore fans. Why would we ever do anything cruel? Okay. You have

Tony (26m 30s):
All the old newspaper flower presses or no,

Ashley (26m 33s):
We, yeah, so we, Chris sent us a huge box of one of the, I think the second issue,

Anne (26m 39s):
But it’s an, it’s an oddly like rare thing because there was a finite number printed. They weren’t like distributed like a normal newspaper. So part as far as our collection goes, it’s like a pride spot that we have some because they’re like Right, you know, we just happened to get them however we got them.

Tony (26m 58s):
Now do you guys obviously do but is her magazine subscription based or do you just buy it before

Anne (27m 3s):
It’s now?

Ashley (27m 4s):
Yeah, we finally both were like after like every, every time like, ah they don’t have it here, they don’t have it here. We finally both were like, let’s just subscribe it now we get it in the mailbox bef like way before it even is promoted like way early. So it’s definitely the way to do it. Yeah.

Anne (27m 19s):
Yeah.

Tony (27m 20s):
That’s so awesome. And I’ve never really even looked through it. What is going on in the magazine? Si Similar to Flower press?

Ashley (27m 28s):
No, there’s always a lot of cooking stuff. Like a lot. I’m always like, there’s too many recipes. Like, ’cause I’m just not a cooking person.

Anne (27m 37s):
There’s,

Tony (27m 38s):
She was never, I mean she always liked cooking but she’s way more into cooking now than she ever

Anne (27m 42s):
Oh yeah.

Ashley (27m 43s):
Yeah. Oh yeah.

Tony (27m 44s):
Remember in the beginning she did not know how to cook but she was trying to learn ’cause she was gonna have Olive, so. Right. It’s cool to see her, how big into cooking she is now.

Anne (27m 54s):
Oh yeah. And I feel like what she talked about like making soups when she was pregnant. Yeah, right. Wasn’t that a thing?

Ashley (28m 1s):
Just trying to learn something.

Anne (28m 3s):
Yep.

Ashley (28m 4s):
But there’s a lot of design stuff in the magazines always. Like beauty product stuff. Those are kind of the most consistent. I feel like she

Anne (28m 12s):
Features like smaller makers sometimes. Like we do like features on like

Ashley (28m 18s):
Yeah. Small businesses and

Anne (28m 19s):
Stuff. Yeah. That’s always really cool.

Ashley (28m 22s):
Cool. Yeah, I like that.

Anne (28m 23s):
It’s, it’s really great. It’s a really well designed magazine. It was funny ’cause last time we’re like, wow, this is like mostly recipes and it was like, it’s the holiday issues. So of course it’s, it’s got like tons of holiday recipes. Yeah, it has like a gift guide. I don’t know. It’s it’s a great magazine. It feels like it’s got her all over it and it does. Yeah. It, it does. She’s, she’s featured in many of the sections like with her own sort of personal spin. It’s, it’s cool. Like it feels, it feels like her. You can feel her in it. Okay, next question. Which I really love. What is the biggest thing you learned from Drew as a friend and or colleague?

Tony (28m 59s):
That is a good question.

Anne (29m 1s):
It’s also a big one ’cause it feels like, yeah.

Ashley (29m 3s):
Lost. How could you choose one thing?

Tony (29m 6s):
Let’s come back to that. Okay.

Ashley (29m 9s):
Yeah. Those were all the ones that are like, what are the most or the best. ’cause we put ’em all together. ’cause those are hard to answer. Yeah. They’re, rest of these might be easier. This question is, how much were you around when they were doing the pilot of the Drew Barrymore show? Were you there for any of that?

Tony (29m 36s):
Yeah, I was there for the majority of it. Yeah. I remember like from the like sales tape, the reel that you put together from that point on. And then her, you know, submitting that to CBS or whoever it was. And then once it got the like green light to do the pilot, I was there for the pilot. And then I think I was even like in a couple clips on the pilot. I don’t, which we’ll probably never see.

Ashley (30m 6s):
Oh,

Tony (30m 7s):
I don’t even know if the pilot was aired or if it was just something that we kind of used as the sales take.

Ashley (30m 12s):
I think they’ve shown a little bit of Cameron Diaz doing like the news thing with Drew. Yeah,

Tony (30m 17s):
Yeah, yeah,

Ashley (30m 17s):
Yeah, yeah. I’ve seen that. But I think that’s about it.

Tony (30m 20s):
Yeah. So it was to film segments for that and then we had to fly to Miami to some conference event to where she kind of like had to show it off to people and stuff, so Oh wow.

Anne (30m 35s):
There

Tony (30m 35s):
And then, yeah, until she got the actual green light. And then that’s when I, I left to come back to LA ’cause I couldn’t, I didn’t wanna move to New York full time, so. Yeah.

Ashley (30m 44s):
You’re like darn it, the show got picked up.

Tony (30m 47s):
I know. No, I was so excited. I just wished it would’ve been in LA Yeah,

Ashley (30m 53s):
We do too.

Anne (30m 55s):
I know,

Tony (30m 56s):
I know. ’cause you guys would be able to go like once a month. Yeah.

Anne (30m 60s):
I mean we could be cool if we could go all the time. That would

Tony (31m 2s):
Be easy. Yeah, I’d have your own like s seats

Ashley (31m 5s):
Are good segment. Oh, have our own segment. Okay. Seats. Seats are good too.

Anne (31m 10s):
Segment actually.

Tony (31m 12s):
Segment. Segment. Yeah.

Ashley (31m 14s):
I’m manifesting guys.

Tony (31m 17s):
No, I was just like, yeah, so I was there pretty much for the start of it.

Ashley (31m 21s):
Was it exciting? Like it’s such a different project.

Tony (31m 25s):
It was so exciting. Everybody was, yeah. Everybody was so excited because it was something different and something like, we’re like, yes, this is so perfectly you. Oh. Like, yeah, it, it was a, it was a cool moment. So I’m glad I, I’m so happy to see it succeeding. Yeah.

Anne (31m 42s):
I like how she talks about though like first season she’s like, I was just like goofing around with myself ’cause I didn’t have like, you know, audience. Audience. Yes. And like she’s like, I was a little kooky at first. Like we’ve loved every version of the show and who she like, you know, is out there with it. It’s so great. This question, you know, I feel like it might have an obvious answer but maybe not. Maybe it’ll surprise us. If you got a chance to be in Drew’s audience, are you going to take it?

Tony (32m 9s):
Yeah, for sure. I You

Ashley (32m 11s):
Already did. I saw you there.

Tony (32m 13s):
I know when like I was just in New York, not so long ago, but I think, oh well it was during the strike so it still wasn’t happening. But like yeah, Christine was like, oh I wish we were filming. You could come to the show. And I’m like, I know. I really want to go see. Oh I do want see it in New York. ’cause Me too, like it’s there. It’s where it started and I want to see it. So hopefully I’ll be able to make it out there when it’s shooting.

Ashley (32m 37s):
Yeah. Tell Charlize to go do something in New York.

Tony (32m 40s):
I know. I’m waiting for her to like promote something so we can go on the show.

Ashley (32m 45s):
Oh yeah. Than that. The whole moment. Oh, that’d so cool. That’d be a perfect

Anne (32m 50s):
Excuse. Then you and Christina can be like, you know, bumping fist backstage and

Tony (32m 54s):
Yeah, it’ll happen. It’ll happen.

Ashley (32m 56s):
Love that.

Tony (32m 57s):
We have a movie next, hopefully next year coming out. So hopefully when promotion

Ashley (33m 1s):
Happens. Yay. Fingers crossed. Okay, so this is interesting. This is my own question ’cause I thought of it this morning when I was getting ready. I don’t think we talked about this last time, but you were kind of around in the beginning stages of Flower Beauty, right?

Tony (33m 15s):
Yeah, yeah. Early. Early. Yeah. Beginning stages of that too.

Ashley (33m 18s):
What did you have to do for that? Like do you remember anything specifically?

Tony (33m 22s):
I just remember going to, and I don’t remember where the, where they make the makeup. Like we would go and see like it actually being made and her like working with the

Anne (33m 34s):
The formulas.

Tony (33m 35s):
Formulas, yeah. To create these things. So that was cool.

Ashley (33m 39s):
Wow.

Tony (33m 40s):
But yeah, that, that’s all I really remember of it. And then

Ashley (33m 43s):
You were doing so much at at once. It’s probably so hard.

Tony (33m 47s):
Got so much out. But there’s just, yeah, I remember Flower Beauty, the beginning stages for sure. They’re cool and everybody has like a makeup line and you know, who I saw had and I was like, she’s following in Drew’s footsteps is Selena Gomez has the makeup line and now she’s doing like pots and pans and I’m like, what? Good for you. But okay, Drew,

Anne (34m 9s):
I got this formula.

Ashley (34m 11s):
Here’s the like path you take. She’s gonna have a action before we know it. It

Tony (34m 14s):
For you. Yeah, exactly. Like Selena Gomez and pots and pans. All right. It doesn’t really.

Anne (34m 22s):
Okay, so this next one kind of goes on a totally different topic, but it’s totally in your perspective. And

Ashley (34m 27s):
Two different people asked about this.

Anne (34m 29s):
I’ll just ask kind of both ’cause it’s the same question but different versions. Do you think Drew will ever do a dramatic project like Gray Gardens again? And then another person asks, do you think Drew will return to acting and will we get to see her in more serious or dramatic roles based on what you saw her interest in that?

Tony (34m 45s):
Yeah, I mean she’s, she’s said she’s done, but they all say that and they all come back from

Ashley (34m 51s):
Me.

Tony (34m 52s):
And I feel like there’s certain things like an Adam Sandler would pull her back. Yeah. I think there’s, there’ll be special things that she’ll do it. I feel like now she can be more selective. Yeah. So she doesn’t have to go back if she doesn’t want to. I mean we all want her to. ’cause that’s like where it all began, began

Anne (35m 14s):
Where we all fall in love with her. Yeah,

Ashley (35m 15s):
Yeah. Yeah.

Tony (35m 16s):
So I hope she does and she still needs to win that Oscar so she does need Yeah. Part, right? That’s

Ashley (35m 23s):
Right. But

Tony (35m 23s):
I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know if she has the, with the show, like if she would have the capacity.

Ashley (35m 31s):
Capacity, the bandwidth. Yep.

Tony (35m 33s):
Do all that. I mean like a fun light thing, like an Adam Sandler or Santa Cla. Yeah. I really hope they do like a Santa Clarita diet movie. I know. Like give the fans what they want. We need a movie.

Ashley (35m 44s):
I love that show. Did you work on that show at all or was that kind of when you were not Yeah,

Tony (35m 49s):
I did. Well I did two seasons of it. Oh shoot, I didn’t

Ashley (35m 52s):
Realize that, that,

Tony (35m 53s):
Yeah because I had, I had left, I was gone for the first season and then I came back

Ashley (35m 58s):
Second and third. Oh, that must have been so fun.

Tony (36m 0s):
It was so fun. I loved that show. It’s so,

Anne (36m 2s):
So good

Tony (36m 3s):
Man. I know. I need to go back and watch that.

Ashley (36m 6s):
Yeah, yeah. I’m ready to, we’re definitely gonna do like, we’ll probably have to do each season as its own episode on the podcast. But I’m excited to rewatch it ’cause it’s been, since it aired, I haven’t watched

Anne (36m 16s):
It yet. Yeah. I don’t think I have either.

Ashley (36m 17s):
All right. This is an interesting question. Is Drew aware of the fan sites that she has around the world?

Tony (36m 24s):
No, I think just Joyce,

Anne (36m 26s):
That’s it. That’s the correct answer. I really do.

Ashley (36m 28s):
Perfect answer. Yeah.

Anne (36m 31s):
Except you’re

Ashley (36m 32s):
One we do love Drew Barrymore Brazil as well. Okay, thanks.

Tony (36m 37s):
Her Brazilian fans are great. Definitely. I mean I am sure she’s clued into some of it, but they don’t really, I’m sure see a lot of it

Ashley (36m 47s):
Also, I don’t feel like her ego would let her like dwell on it very much. Like she’s not gonna be like focused on people love me everywhere.

Tony (36m 56s):
Yeah, right.

Anne (36m 57s):
But how could you be aware if you’ve just been in, literally in like the public eye for your whole life, how could you have any idea? I don’t know like the, the amount of content that’s out here, the

Ashley (37m 10s):
Perspective has gotta be really hard.

Anne (37m 11s):
It would be really hard to understand if you’re just in it. If you’re you, she’s Drew, how do, how you know, why would she think that anyone would care?

Ashley (37m 19s):
Well that’s perfect for the next question.

Anne (37m 21s):
Oh yes, it’s the next question is does she know she’s Drew Barrymore? She seems so humble.

Tony (37m 28s):
No, she literally would like go anywhere and like takes the train by herself. Yeah. She just, she, I mean she just tries to maintain a normal life as much as possible. But she would, yeah, she’s just always like out doing her own thing. She’ll go to you know, workout classes, she’ll go to the store like whatever she does good. But yeah, she doesn’t, I don’t think really realize it until people come up to her or there’s a, you know, paparazzi or something. But yeah.

Ashley (38m 2s):
Yeah, it is funny. Like it does seem like she’s always like so genuinely surprised that people are interested in her. But I think you probably, that’s probably healthy to like keep that kind of like, she probably has to to feel normal. Yeah.

Anne (38m 16s):
And we’ve joked about her disguises, which I feel like she’s gotta have like something where she just like looks like a normal person and she’s not gonna stand out. Like

Tony (38m 26s):
Never, she always just wears like her chunky hat and like her heavy coats and like people recognize her from like, like you wouldn’t even think that they would and they’re like they know. Or if she opens her mouth, that gives it away.

Ashley (38m 40s):
Yeah, I was gonna say hear her voice.

Anne (38m 44s):
I love that. I love that she like lets herself just live her life. It seems really healthy.

Ashley (38m 51s):
Okay, we have some like more personal questions just aimed at you. So someone wanted to know if you have a favorite of Drew’s movies.

Tony (39m 1s):
I would have to say never been Kissed or blended. Both because I was a part of Yeah,

Ashley (39m 8s):
I know. I was like, ’cause you your first and your last, right? No, I guess your last was the Stand-in That’s not your favorite.

Tony (39m 16s):
That one was really quirky but it was, it was interesting. I didn’t hate it.

Ashley (39m 23s):
Ann still has to watch that.

Tony (39m 25s):
You’ve seen that? Come on.

Ashley (39m 27s):
I’m like, we have to discuss that.

Anne (39m 29s):
I don’t like Drew Barrymore. I love her. So I just try to give her the respect and the space that she needs. I’m just kidding.

Ashley (39m 36s):
I’m just

Anne (39m 36s):
Kidding. I will watch it eventually.

Ashley (39m 40s):
Never Been Kissed is a good one though. That’s one of our most popular episodes is the one that we did on Never Been Kissed. That one just means a lot to so many people. Yeah,

Anne (39m 47s):
It really does. This is just kind of a fun one personal question for you. How long should we wait until you visit Germany from our friend Vacca who lives in Germany?

Ashley (39m 58s):
He knows the twins.

Tony (40m 0s):
Yeah. I love the twins. I saw them in Italy. No, yeah, Italy last year and I’m, I need to go to Germany. I’ve never been so I’m hoping soon I would love to be out there.

Ashley (40m 12s):
Yay. Stay tuned. Va

Tony (40m 13s):
They can show me around.

Anne (40m 15s):
That’d be

Ashley (40m 16s):
Awesome. That’s awesome. They’re so sweet.

Tony (40m 18s):
I’ve never been dying to go.

Ashley (40m 21s):
This is from Drew, Barrymore, Brazil from Renata. She just wanted, she doesn’t have a question. She just wanted to say, you have always been so nice to all the Brazilian fans. Thank you. Tony.

Tony (40m 30s):
That’s a, another place I want to go to really badly is Brazil. So when I come out there, she’ll have to show it.

Ashley (40m 36s):
Yeah,

Tony (40m 37s):
Yeah. And you’re welcome. We love the Brazilian fans.

Ashley (40m 41s):
Aw

Anne (40m 41s):
Yeah, she’s a good one. Okay, and then the last one, you might be able to figure out who this is from. Favorite memory working with Mason.

Tony (40m 50s):
Is that from Mason? Yeah. He was the worst. No, just kidding. Everything. Mason was great. He, he was, he took me under his wing when I first started and he like, we became fast friends. Like he was, he was awesome and he was a great person to learn from. He was, yeah. He knew his shit and I like always looked up to him, so,

Ashley (41m 14s):
Aw.

Tony (41m 15s):
Sad to see when he left me.

Anne (41m 16s):
Did you guys have like specific ways that you broke up your tasks as the assistance?

Tony (41m 23s):
Yeah, he did more at that time. He did more of like the business side of stuff and I did more of the personal stuff. So that’s how we kept it separate.

Anne (41m 32s):
I think we kind of knew that. Yeah. But

Ashley (41m 34s):
Yeah, I ki I was like, I kind of would’ve guessed that. Yeah. Yeah.

Tony (41m 36s):
Sometimes it would cross over, but mostly that’s how we, yeah.

Ashley (41m 40s):
You guys seemed like a good work team. I

Tony (41m 42s):
Have so many great memories with Mason. Like being able to travel with him, we would always like, gosh, we would do so many fun things together. I remember we had to move Drew’s Drew had a house in Austin.

Ashley (41m 56s):
Oh really?

Tony (41m 57s):
Yeah, years ago. Like long, long ago. And so we moved the house, Mason and I got like a rental car, a rental truck and moved the entire house back to LA So we just sort of like had Oh my

Ashley (42m 7s):
God.

Tony (42m 9s):
Yeah, we had great memories together. Oh, I

Anne (42m 12s):
Miss it. Was it a house she had when she was filming Whippet or It was like from way before that?

Tony (42m 18s):
I think it was way before that.

Ashley (42m 20s):
Wow.

Anne (42m 20s):
Wow. Interesting. Look

Ashley (42m 21s):
You teaching us something new? I

Tony (42m 23s):
Had no idea. Never knew about the Austin House. No,

Anne (42m 26s):
I don’t think so. I don’t think we knew anything about that.

Tony (42m 29s):
Speaking of Mason, I think his birthday’s today or tomorrow.

Ashley (42m 32s):
Oh my God. Happy birthday Mason.

Tony (42m 34s):
I forgot. Say yeah. Happy birthday Mason.

Ashley (42m 36s):
It was very fun when he reached out with a question. I was like, oh my God, I love this. I’m saving it for last. That’s

Anne (42m 45s):
Really fun. That is really fun. Yeah, you and Mason really like helped carry her through like a really, really busy time in her career because she was just doing so much

Ashley (42m 57s):
Always though.

Anne (42m 58s):
Always. But I feel like then it was like the books were coming out. She was having kids. Yeah, she was still doing movies. Like the show started, you know, the Flo, the Flower Beauty brand. Like there was so, I mean she, yeah, she still is doing so much. And like you said, like yeah that her new staff is keeping it going, but it’s like, man,

Tony (43m 17s):
I know. Oh, Mason was the OG though. og.

Ashley (43m 20s):
Oh, OG

Anne (43m 21s):
Mason. Yeah. Birthday

Tony (43m 22s):
Boy Mason og.

Ashley (43m 24s):
I love that.

Tony (43m 27s):
Yeah. Compare

Anne (43m 30s):
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Anne (44m 53s):
Okay, coming back to craziest moment with Drew, what came to mind?

Tony (45m 1s):
Craziest moment. God, I, there’s so many, but one that really stands out. We were on our way rushing somewhere to get her to a meeting and I was driving her and she was changing in the car and she, we were stopped at a stop sign or a light or something and she was changing and she opened her, opened the passenger door and this motorcyclist came right by and almost got knocked out by her. Oh shit. And he like swerved and then like came back over and like totally started cussing us out. It was like, oh my god, I’m so sorry. Like crazy stuff like that that stands out the most.

Anne (45m 38s):
Did this motorcyclist know it was Drew Barrymore after the fact? Probably

Tony (45m 41s):
Not. Probably not.

Ashley (45m 42s):
Probably not. No. He’ll know now. He’ll hear this. Exactly.

Tony (45m 45s):
Apologies to him.

Anne (45m 47s):
Yes. And we’re not at all surprised to hear she’d be changing in the car.

Ashley (45m 50s):
No, we, we know that’s a common thing. She’s been caught doing it in parking lots by paparazzi.

Tony (45m 57s):
Always on the go

Ashley (45m 59s):
Stars are just like us. Right,

Tony (46m 1s):
Exactly. I mean there’s so many more crazy moments, but that one just for some reason stands out.

Ashley (46m 7s):
I love that one. I

Anne (46m 8s):
Mean you’re in the driver’s seat so it’s like, in a way you have this responsibility to make sure that your passengers are

Tony (46m 13s):
Like, yeah, it’s safe. I’m door closed. Whatcha doing? Why

Ashley (46m 17s):
You need to do the child walk. Are

Tony (46m 18s):
You opening the door? I know, I’m like gonna run in the back like what? What are doing? Oh my God.

Anne (46m 24s):
She’s like, I need my shoes. They’re in the backseat. Yep,

Ashley (46m 27s):
Exactly.

Anne (46m 27s):
I’m gonna step

Tony (46m 28s):
Out fully. You probably didn’t wanna climb over the seat, right? So she lemme just run out real quick and get them and run back up and then she almost knocked someone out in the process.

Anne (46m 38s):
Drew Barrymore. Just trying to get business done. Exactly.

Ashley (46m 42s):
And did you think of maybe what your biggest thing you learned from her at personally or as a colleague?

Tony (46m 48s):
Yeah, I mean, again, she’s always had her hands in so much and like whatever she touched, like turned to gold. Like she was so successful. It just sort of gave me a drive to like really like go after what I want and just to be confident and to like pursue my, my goals and dreams and you know, I think like she just watching her and being in her presence kind of like she gave that to me so I, that’s something I always cherish and bring with me.

Ashley (47m 21s):
Aw. I feel like even, you know, not working with her, obviously from a distance, I feel like I get that from her too. Like yeah, right. We can do this podcast, we can be successful. Like it’s our, we’re having so much fun, let’s go for it.

Tony (47m 34s):
Exactly.

Anne (47m 35s):
I feel like anytime she talks about like, if there’s something you love, like go for it. Like Yeah.

Tony (47m 40s):
Yeah, she’s, she’s so like that in person and working with her it’s, she’s very motivating. So.

Ashley (47m 46s):
Aw, that’s a great way to sum it all up.

Anne (47m 50s):
That’s awesome.

Ashley (47m 52s):
Yeah, we loved having you on this show Tony so cool that you came back.

Tony (47m 56s):
Oh, fun. I love being on this show. Yeah. Thank you guys.

Ashley (48m 0s):
If you think of like a topic that you ever wanna come back for, just you know, let us know if you’re like, wait, I really wanna discuss X, Y, ZI

Anne (48m 7s):
Think he wants to discuss blended.

Ashley (48m 9s):
Yeah. Oh yeah, obvi. There we go. Obviously when we do a blended episode, we’ll have you on. That would be perfect.

Anne (48m 15s):
We already know that Adam Sandler tried to teach you how to juggle.

Tony (48m 19s):
Oh that’s great. About that.

Anne (48m 21s):
Good

Tony (48m 22s):
Memory. Yeah. So

Anne (48m 23s):
We’ve got one little blended set tidbit.

Ashley (48m 25s):
Oh, that’s so fun.

Anne (48m 27s):
I’m sure you’ll have more so when we do blended we can have you,

Tony (48m 30s):
Okay, I’m gonna have to start thinking about that stuff.

Ashley (48m 32s):
You’ll have to go re-watch the movie and like take notes like we do.

Tony (48m 36s):
Did you guys like that movie?

Ashley (48m 38s):
Yeah, I only saw it once.

Tony (48m 40s):
It didn’t get a lot of love when it first came out, but I see it on like TV all the time now. It’s out on

Ashley (48m 45s):
Stuff. Oh, that’s cool. I, I need to revisit it.

Anne (48m 48s):
Turn, I’m like, oh well and Jolena and I went to the premiere of it. That’s right. And we got to talk to Drew afterwards and she’d just given birth to find.

Ashley (48m 58s):
Yeah.

Anne (48m 59s):
Like she was like two weeks out from giving birth or something. She crazy.

Ashley (49m 3s):
Do you have a cameo in that one?

Tony (49m 5s):
No, I know I

Ashley (49m 6s):
Didn’t. I didn’t think so. But yeah, you have other ones.

Tony (49m 12s):
Exactly.

Anne (49m 13s):
Yeah. We’ve got all your cameos on lock I think.

Ashley (49m 15s):
Yeah, we have a little gallery in the last episode. Go look at episode 13 gallery to see Tony in the background of some stuff.

Tony (49m 24s):
Too funny.

Ashley (49m 27s):
Well thank you again for your time and your beautiful presence and all the giggles. Yeah. It’s just so fun hanging out with you virtually.

Tony (49m 36s):
Always fun to do this. So thank you for inviting me the happy holidays everyone. Thank

Ashley (49m 43s):
You. Thank

Anne (49m 44s):
You again Tony.

Tony (49m 45s):
Welcome. We

Anne (49m 46s):
Appreciate you.

Tony (49m 47s):
Alright,

Ashley (50m 2s):
Thank you so much Tony. That was so much fun. If you guys enjoyed that conversation, make sure you go back and listen to our episode 13 when he first came on. He shared some great stories that time too. We love you Tony. Thanks for We love you Tony friend of the pod. Yeah,

Anne (50m 18s):
So great. Yeah, we can’t wait to have you back.

Ashley (50m 24s):
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Make sure you visit our website at How Do You Drew dot com, hosted on the Drew dot com. Send listener mail to How Do You Drew [email protected]. And my question to take us out is what are you most excited about in December, other than Christmas

Ashley (51m 32s):
Seeing Mila, my daughter, do the Nutcracker. Aw, yeah, I’m very, she was Clara, which is the lead last year, which was incredible. This year she will have a little bit more challenging dances, so that’ll be great. Plus I just love it. It’s like one of the Christmas traditions I really like is the Nutcracker.

Anne (51m 49s):
Oh, I love that. What about you? Well, traveling, I’ll be in California for a huge chunk of December and then I’ll be visiting Las Vegas to see Ashley in the fa. So I’ve got a lot of stuff I’m looking forward to. I’ll be away from my cats, but they’ll have somebody lovely taking care of them. So not looking forward to that. But you know, let’s, let’s look at, let’s focus on the positive.

Ashley (52m 12s):
Speaking of Willow, just walked in the room. My cat, fluffy Willow. Hi Willow.

Anne (52m 16s):
Will willow my cat’s like fucked off a while ago. I don’t know where they are. Okay everybody, thanks for tuning in. We hope you enjoyed our part two with Tony Crago. Can’t wait to have him back, as we’ve already said. And we’ll see you next Tuesday.

Ashley (52m 31s):
Thanks. Bye

Anne (52m 32s):
Bye

0 (52m 34s):
Bye.

Anne (52m 46s):
This episode of the How Do You Drew podcast was researched and produced by Ashley and Anne from thedrewseum.com with help from our sponsor, positive medium.

Ashley (52m 55s):
Special thanks to Matt Costa for our lovely theme song, Roxy Prima, for our adorable logo. And last but not least, Drew, Barrymore and all the Drewbies who love her, we do this for you.

Anne (53m 5s):
Thank you. Thank you.

Episode 061 - The Drew Barrymore Show Taping - Transcript

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Ashley (24s):
All right. Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew.

Anne (27s):
This is A Drew Barrymore Podcast, brought to you by thedrewseum.com
Ashley (31s):
And sponsored by our friends at Positive Medium.

Anne (34s):
I’m Anne.

Ashley (35s):
And I’m Ashley.

Anne (37s):
And we have a third person that’s name starts as an A as well visiting.

Ashley (43s):
I noticed that too. I’m like another A.

Anne (46s):
So welcome Anita, our dear friend from The Grapevine, which we’ve mentioned many times, the Drew Barrymore message board from back in the day. Hello. Hi. Hi.
Anita (56s):
This is so exciting.

Ashley (58s):
Yay. Thank you for joining us. Absolutely. I mean, we go way back probably 98, 99, I’m sure is when we first started connecting with each other, which is just crazy to think about.
Anita (1m 9s):
Yeah, it’s wild to think it’s been that long. Yeah.

Anne (1m 12s):
And, and Anita and I, which we’ll get into in a minute, got to spend some time together recently. And during that we were kind of like, it’s a trip how, you know, even if some of us aren’t necessarily actively collecting on Drew Barrymore anymore, we still have this connection that’s kept us connected. And it’s quite a nice size community. I mean, even if it is only like nice size to us, you know,

Ashley (1m 36s):
I think think’s still incredible that this many years have gone by and they’re still like, yeah, like you said, this little community that we formed so long ago. Yes. And it lives on, it’s just awesome. Yes.

Anne (1m 47s):
The first tribe we found. Yeah.

Anita (1m 50s):
Yeah.

Anne (1m 51s):
Ok. So let’s start a little bit with introduction to Anita, how you became a fan. What do you remember about the early days and what kind of attracted you to Miss Drew Barrymore?

Anita (2m 4s):
So, I mean, I guess I’ve been a fan since the E.T. Days.

Ashley (2m 8s):
That’s crazy. Oh my God.

Anita (2m 10s):
Yeah.

Ashley (2m 10s):
I knew you were like further back than us, but I didn’t realize it was that much further.

Anita (2m 14s):
Yeah. I, so I think I was around three years old when the movie was released and I went to the theater in my small town and saw the movie with my mom. I think I sat on her lap and when Drew first came on screen, she had her blonde pigtails tied with the like string or the yarn. Yes. And at, at the time, I was very blonde and I would also wear my hair in pigtails, or I guess I should say my mom would put my hair on pigtails. And I just thought that she like looked like me and I instantly like fell in love with her and thought of her as like a sister or a friend.
Anita (2m 59s):
And that’s, that’s how it all started.

Ashley (3m 2s):

I love that.

Anne (3m 4s):
I love it so much. Do you remember like at what point it became like an active fandom? Like do you remember like maybe what first cherished maybe thing that you collected or like thing that you might’ve seen that that sticks out in your mind?

Anita (3m 19s):
So for a long period, I wasn’t very like invested in Drew’s career. Or keeping up on, on things. And there was also a lull obviously where she wasn’t working as much or like the things were more independent movies.

Anne (3m 31s):
Totally.

Anita (3m 32s):
And I think it was around the time of Poison Ivy that I started to become like interested in her career again. Wow. But the, the first thing that I remember kind of collecting and really being invested in her and wanting to actively collect and pay attention to her career was around the time of Boys on the Side of Met Love.

Anne (3m 53s):
Okay.

Ashley (3m 54s):
The best time.

Anita (3m 55s):
Yeah. Right. Like the best time. I still have my Mad Love ticket stub from the movie theater and I have every stub from every Drew movie I’ve gone to see since then.

Ashley (4m 9s):
Yay. Me Too.

Anita (4m 10s):
And that’s kind of what started the collecting.

Anne (4m 12s):
I love it. And I love that kind of like sentimental ephemeral, you know? Oh yes. The movie tickets. Like now I feel like I haven’t had a physical movie ticket in a while. Oh,

Anita (4m 22s):
I know, right? I miss it so much.

Anne (4m 24s):
And when you get them, they’re like that paper that like you let it sit for a while and it starts to turn and it’s gray. Yes. And turns gray like receipt paper or it fades away. I’m like, no. Exactly. Let’s just use that same old stuff with the tearaway. Like what’s wrong with you? Anyway, I love that so much. Of course we’ve talked about this before, but, and I think you said it Ashley, like we’ve met you in like late nineties, early two thousands on this message board and we’ve been in touch since you are no longer actively collecting, but you’re still part of this community and you support our podcast, which we’re so grateful for,

Ashley (4m 58s):
You’re so supportive. Also, I just wanna say like how many times Anne and I have been like, oh, imagine if we to have been there in the 95 era like you were there. Like so we kind of bow down that you’re even more old school than we are. It’s awesome.

Anita (5m 11s):
I think though, is that like it, it doesn’t really matter what time period you enter into your Drew fandom. Yeah. I mean I think there was definitely like a heyday. But the cool thing about Drew is that she, who she is at her core has remained the same.

Ashley (5m 29s):
Aww.

Anita (5m 29s):
I think that’s kind of why you have such, like, you have so many fans that are new who maybe we don’t know as well is because like Drew kind of transcends all of her. Like even though she had periods where she was maybe releasing more movies or a lot of us were kind of into maybe like the more like hippie like grunge side of Drew. And she kept a little bit of that throughout her life and her career.

Anne (5m 58s):
Yep. And she just has this outward appearance that’s a little more professional. But I feel like deep down she’s the same gal.

Ashley (6m 4s):
I love that. So well said.

Anne (6m 6s):

That’s lovely. Okay, so we’re just gonna like jump into the pod now. We’ll be talking a lot more with Anita and feel free to chime in whenever you’d like.

Anita (6m 17s):
Okay.

Anne (6m 18s):
Okay. So the first segment that we’re gonna hop into this week is, I wanna know what did Drew declare her love for last week?

Drew (6m 28s):
I love, love.

Ashley (6m 29s):
All right, we got some good ones. Okay. All right. Drew loves layering of rugs.

Anita (6m 36s):
Ah, okay.

Anne (6m 37s):
Yeah,

Anita (6m 37s):
I love that.

Ashley (6m 39s):
Salmon skin.

Anne (6m 41s):
You know what, I think I was on the show and I was like, I think I need to try to eat my salmon skin next time. I always throw it away. Ooh.

Ashley (6m 49s):
I’m like, can’t relate. Okay.

Anne (6m 51s): Okay. What else?

Ashley (6m 51s):

She also loves poetry. We know this. Okay. And USA Today, which I thought was fun because I feel like some of our coolest newspaper items in our collection are from USA Today.

Anne (7m 2s):
That is funny though. Yeah.

Ashley (7m 4s):
Urban Outfitters. I feel like we knew that one. Okay. This one’s a little cheaty ’cause we’ve sort of had segments of this before. But I’m gonna put the full sentence in here. The funk of a man’s T-shirt.

Anita (7m 16s):
I agree.

Ashley (7m 17s):
She’s loved that since the Eric Erlandson days. I know she declared that back then.

Anne (7m 26s):
And yeah, if it’s the funk of the man that you love. Yeah, yeah. Or like are crushing on. Absolutely. But generally,

Ashley (7m 32s):
Yeah I don’t want some random man’s.

Anne (7m 33s):
Yeah. I think it’s like your, the funk of your man’s t-shirt is sort of what I was saying.

Anita (7m 38s):
Yeah. Not random funk.

Anne (7m 38s):
No random funk, please.

Ashley (7m 39s):
Alright. And finally, Drew loves a cheesecloth and a designer hook.

Anne (7m 45s): Just one of each.

Ashley (7m 48s):

Yeah, one of each. Singular.

Anne (7m 50s):
Also like designer hook, like something you like put on the wall to hang things.

Ashley (7m 54s):
Correct.

Anne (7m 55s):
That’s made by a designer. Okay.

Ashley (7m 56s):
And it looks good. Like it’s not just a random piece of hardware. Oh yeah.

Anne (7m 59s):
Oh, I do have kind of a cute one on my wall.

Ashley (8m 1s):
I believe it. I bet Anita does too. Anita has a amazing interior design style. Yes. And aesthetic eye. I always have been. I’ve always admired your eye for aesthetics.

Anita (8m 11s):
Thank you. It’s all thrifted. Every last thing I own basically.

Ashley (8m 16s):
That’s amazing. Well, you do it right.

Anne (8m 19s):
You still have to kind of like have the taste.

Ashley (8m 21s):
Yes. You know, and you do.

Anita (8m 24s):
I guess so. Yeah. Thank you.

Anne (8m 25s):
All right. So now for our Drewism of the week, what did you pull for us, Ashley?

Drew (8m 32s):
Oh, someone’s picking up, you know, those cool little isms that we do.

Ashley (8m 37s):
Okay. We haven’t had one of these in a while, so I like this one. So she was talking to People Magazine about how she has not gotten plastic surgery and she said, I look forward to seeing what I look like as a leather bag in the future.

Anne (8m 51s):
I’m sure she’ll be just a gorgeous weathered leather bag,

Ashley (8m 58s):
Like a thrifted bag that Anita would find and make look good.

Anita (9m 2s):
An old leather tote. Yes.

Anne (9m 6s):
Just, you know, a really functional, beautiful one that just makes you so happy when you look at it. Perfect.

Anita (9m 12s):
Perfect patina.

Anne (9m 13s):
Yes. Okay. So now for this week in Drew History, what did you pull?

Ashley (9m 21s):
Oh, this is a good one. Okay. November 21st, 1982. Let’s go back to the fourth annual Youth in Film awards. Woo. These were held at the Sheraton Universal Hotel and Drew won best young supporting actress in a motion picture for E.T. of course she was up against the other nominations were Toni Ann Gisondi from Annie. And I think that’s the part that Drew auditioned for the part of Molly in Annie. That’s my guess. I don’t know that for sure, but that’s my I my instinct. Okay. And then also nominated were Molly Ringwald in Tempest and then of course Heather O’Rourke in Poltergeist.

Ashley (10m 4s):
Another part Drew almost got or went for so. And there’s some really cute pictures of the two of them together at this award show.

Anne (10m 12s):

And we wanna play a little clip of when she won it because it’s so cute,

Ashley (10m 16s):
It’s so famous and like perfect.

Drew (10m 18s):
Thank you for this award. I appreciate it very much. This is my first award.

Ashley (10m 32s):
Oh, I love it so much.

Anne (10m 36s):
So cute.

Anita (10m 36s):
It’s the cutest,

Ashley (10m 37s):
Isn’t it a young Joey Lawrence who introduces her to the award. Is that right?

Anne (10m 44s):
It sure looks like it.

Ashley (10m 45s):
I’m pretty sure it is.

Anita (10m 47s):
I can’t remember, but that seems very familiar.

Ashley (10m 50s):
So cute. And I have a program from this. I totally had forgotten until I started like getting into it. I was like, oh yeah, that’s a good cool thing to have. Oh

Anne (10m 59s):
Cool. Yeah.

Ashley (10m 60s):
And there’s great photos of her again, like we said with Heather O’Rourke and then also with Robert McNaughton from E.T. E.T. Won like everything that year I guess. And it was kind of unusual. And then she

was nominated and attended several other years and supposedly she hosted them in 1985, which is so cool.

Anne (11m 19s):
Oh! We gotta find footage of that.

Ashley (11m 22s):
I knew she attended, but I know we just have photos. But every year it’s like hosted by a child actor, so it makes sense.

Anne (11m 29s):
Aw, that’s so cute.

Ashley (11m 30s):
I don’t know if they still go on or not. Probably not.

Anne (11m 34s):
I don’t feel like I’ve been in tune with the Youth in Film Awards for sure.

Ashley (11m 39s):
Not on your radar, huh?

Anne (11m 41s):
No, it’s not. You know, it’s not. Although, you know, if I had been a fan in the eighties, it might be. Yeah. Like everything that I know about in the industry is basically because of Drew. All right. So let’s get into what’s new with Drew. It looks like you’ve pulled quite a few little tidbits, Ash. So let’s talk about it.

Ashley (12m 1s):
You know what’s funny is that we, two episodes ago we were like, oh, the new Drew magazine, it’s coming, we’ll talk about it when we get it and then we forgot to talk about it Last week.
Anne (12m 11s):
Oops.

Ashley (12m 11s):
But we did a live on Instagram, so if you do wanna see, you know, what’s in the magazine and what our opinions are on it, you can go watch that. Either it’s on the Drewseum Instagram and you can see us chatting about it live.

Anne (12m 25s):

Yes. Just a couple little tidbits that are fun about it. For those of you who don’t check out the live and don’t have the magazine in your hands for some reason. A couple things that are cool. It’s the first time she’s had anyone other than just herself, well she’s on the magazine as well, on the cover.

Ashley (12m 40s):
That’s not a dog.

Anne (12m 41s):
Yes. Other humans.

Ashley (12m 42s):
Other humans. Yeah.

Anne (12m 44s):
And also her handwriting is featured on the cover as the little names for each of the individuals on the cover, which was really cool. So we talked about that in the ins in the Instagram Live. But just thought I would bring that up.

Ashley (12m 57s):
Speaking of humans. That’s a great segue. Drew got a new tattoo.

Anne (13m 1s):
Yes.

Ashley (13m 3s):
So exciting. So I did a little, a little research, a little sleuthing, and I found out that she got it on your birthday Anne, November 7th.

Anne (13m 13s):
Happy birthday to me.

Ashley (13m 14s):
So cool. I don’t know, it just seems special because we are talking about getting some tattoos right now. We are Anne and I, and also our friend Joalena. So for her to get a new one on your birthday just felt like a good sign. I like it.

Anne (13m 29s):
Yeah. Like we needed more encouragement to do this. We’ve been talking about it for years.

Ashley (13m 32s):
Truly.

Anne (13m 33s):
You know, like literally years and always trying to figure out like what’s the thing that we can do to like honor how we met, you know, our connection. So that’s coming up. So anyway, let’s talk about what the tattoo is. So she just got the words simply, I am human under her existing tattoo that says Home is where we are. And it’s on her right arm. It’s tattoo number 12. And I like this that she said she likes all but two of them, one of which we know is the flowers on her hip and what else do we think?

Ashley (14m 4s):
I think the other one is the bird. And the only reason I say that is because it’s the most random and it’s the one we don’t know anything about. Like why does she have that bird? That’s my guess.

Anne (14m 15s):
I feel like at some point she talked about how the moon doesn’t really look like a moon anymore, but I think she also really loves it, right?

Ashley (14m 23s):
Yeah. I don’t know. It could be the moon. What do you think Anita?

Anita (14m 27s):
I mean, so isn’t there one that says Jaid?

Ashley (14m 30s):
True.

Anita (14m 30s):
Yeah. So I mean that that might be, and not necessarily, yeah, I don’t know. Possibly the moon would be my guess as well because I think she basically said that it’s just blurry and you can’t tell that it’s a moon anymore. Yeah. But that’s something that, I don’t know if there’d necessarily be regret there. We might be right about the bird. I would be very curious to know the meaning behind that one

Anne (14m 58s):
Me too. Dying to know. Except for every time I see it, I’m like, I love perching birdies.

Anita (15m 2s): Of course.

Anne (15m 2s):
And I said that when we’re in New York, which I’ll talk about more in a minute too.

Ashley (15m 8s):
Oh, okay okay.

Anne (15m 8s):
Another tease guys.

Ashley (15m 9s):
She did say that she thinks she’ll be getting tattoos for the rest of her life, which is fun to imagine. They’ll still be coming,

Anne (15m 16s):
They’re gonna end up on her face if she keeps going.

Ashley (15m 19s):
Oh no. This one was done by artist John Mesa live on the show, sorta? Like when they actually started the show, it looked like it was already over, so…

Anne (15m 29s):
Oh!

Ashley (15m 29s):
I don’t totally know how that went.

Anne (15m 32s):
Like it was too fast. Yeah, we weren’t filming yet, John.

Ashley (15m 36s):
But she did say it was the least painful one she’d ever gotten. So he has like a little, a really light touch apparently.

Anne (15m 41s):
Nice. The text is very thin also. So I wonder if there’s something about that.

Ashley (15m 47s):
I was thinking that too. Joel Madden was the guest on the show and he approved of what she wrote and he had like a really nice thing to say about it and she said it sent her on her way with little clouds and wings.

Anne (15m 58s):
Aw. And Joel Madden is the one that’s married to Cameron Diaz?

Ashley (16m 2s):
Nope, it’s the one that’s married to Nicole Richie.

Anne (16m 5s):
Okay.

Ashley (16m 5s):
But she’s like, we’re not family, but we kind of are My best friend is married to your twin brother, like you know,

Anne (16m 12s):
What’s the other brother’s name? I’m blanking.

Anita (16m 14s):
Benji.

Ashley (16m 14s):
Benji. Yep. Yep. That’s right.

Anne (16m 16s):
Thank you for pulling that out.

Ashley (16m 18s):
Still is so random to me. Like him and Cameron I go never would’ve.

Anne (16m 21s):
Yeah. But also it’s like she did date like Jared Leto who was like in a band, you know, like maybe

Ashley (16m 29s): Justin Timberlake.

Anne (16m 29s): Yeah, that’s true.

Ashley (16m 30s):

Related I guess.

Anne (16m 31s):
Yeah. So maybe she’s just really attracted to people who she’s seen on stage.

Ashley (16m 36s):
I mean we, we all get that.

Anita (16m 39s):
Yeah. She likes the musician, who doesn’t.?

Anne (16m 41s):
Exactly. Exactly. Funnily enough. So I was watching the Megan Fox interview, which was really good. And I totally had this like very subconscious thought of like, wow, Drew’s arm is really getting full like with all those tattoos. And then I realized it was actually already there. It was like before we knew she got the tattoo. But

Ashley (17m 5s):
yeah Filming schedule wise, they had already filmed it and I was like, oh, part of me subconsciously knew there was something new there, but I didn’t,

Anne (17m 12s):
You’re so familiar with like how full her arm is that like, you’re like, that’s weird. Why is that weird?

Ashley (17m 17s):
And then this is just on the same sort of tattoo train. So she had an interview with the F-1 driver, Daniel Ricciardo, and she showed him a picture of her James Cherub tattoo because he has a similar angel and either the way they showed it and they edited it or it’s real, his name is totally blacked out now, so I’m so curious like did they just like Photoshop it or has she gotten it covered? Like it was more than, I think it could have naturally bled to,

Anne (17m 53s):
Yep. Maybe.

Anita (17m 53s):
Oh,

Ashley (17m 53s):
We’ll have to share a screenshot of it.

Anita (17m 57s):
Maybe that’s one of the regret tattoos maybe.

Anne (18m 0s):
Maybe.

Ashley (18m 1s):
Yeah. But then I was like, if she’s showing it to him. So could she say she doesn’t? I don’t know. I don’t know. But I thought it was pretty funny that his name is totally, totally gone. And then of course I have, you know me, I’m such a little bitch, I gotta call out anytime that Drew gets her dates wrong.

Anne (18m 20s):
Of course

Ashley (18m 20s):
She’s like, she’s like, I got this one when I was 13. I’m like, Drew, you did not know Jamie Walters. Like you dated him four years later. That’s when you got this tattoo too.

Anne (18m 31s):
I think that’s what she needs to hire us to do. I think we’ve said this is just to be like, I’m gonna talk about this on the show. Can you tell me the timeline? Thanks.

Ashley (18m 39s):
Fact checkers, we’re here for it.

Anne (18m 40s):
Okay, so what else you got for this week?

Ashley (18m 45s):
Drew also was part of the Domino, Domino Magazine Good Design Awards. So for home products. And she was one of six guest editors who helped choose a bunch of products that were especially cool this year, I guess.

Anita (18m 59s):
That’s neat.

Anne (19m 0s):
Okay. She helped choose some for it. Yeah. Okay.

Ashley (19m 4s):
Also the beautiful Drew chair was on the list, which, conveniently enough. I dunno if that’s a little coincidence or what.

Anne (19m 13s):
I wonder, I wonder if it’s sort of like if you are a designer that has something that’s been highly like rated, you get to be on the like judging side as well. Maybe it’s like, maybe it works like that. I don’t know.

Ashley (19m 27s):
Maybe.

Anne (19m 27s):
I would like to think they wouldn’t just like, people wouldn’t just be nominating their own products. Who knows?

Anita (19m 32s):
Who know. I see so many versions of that chair as well. Like everywhere now. Yep. But there are multiple colorways now. Yep. There’s it used to be white and now there’s like a sage green.

Ashley (19m 44s):
Yes.

Anne (19m 44s):
I want the sage.

Ashley (19m 46s):
Yes,

Anita (19m 46s):
I love the green.

Ashley (19m 48s):
And then the final thing I wanna mention, and then I’m gonna take like a little backseat and just listen to you guys. The Drew Barrymore Show hit a Ratings high. This is via The Wrap and I guess it was a 22 week ratings high averaging 1.1 million viewers in the Last week of October. And it is currently the number three most watched syndicated talk show. So Wow.

Anne (20m 12s): Nice. Yes.

Ashley (20m 13s):
I guess the whole scandal of the writer strike didn’t hurt them too badly.

Anne (20m 18s):
Well, unless, unless that’s why people are tuning in. ’cause they’re like, can we really hate Miss Drew Barrymore? And then they’re like, no, it’s impossible. Yeah, no, but that’s congrats to Drew and the show. That’s so cool. Yeah.

Ashley (20m 31s):
Great news.

Anne (20m 32s):
Howdy, Drewbies.

Ashley (20m 37s):
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Anne (21m 55s):
Okay. I know you said you wanted to take a back seat and I gotta just jump in the driver’s seat right now.

Ashley (22m 5s):
Well I’m just like, I feel like I’m gonna be one of our listeners right now. I’m like on the edge of my seat because I, I have heard parts of this story, but you were standing on a busy New York street while you were telling me

Anne (22m 16s):
I sure was.

Ashley (22m 16s):
Let’s hear what you guys did this week.

Anne (22m 21s):
Okay, so our weekly topic is just talking about, you know, a little old visit to New York City that Anita and I took this past week. Yay. Yeah. So our visit included The Drew Barrymore Show on November 16th. We attended the first taping of the day and it’s going to air on the 22nd and now we’re gonna get into our story a little bit. Okay. So the first thing I wanted to talk about with this taping is that we are lucky enough to be in contact with Drew’s current personal assistant who has been really lovely but we haven’t really been able to do any events to like really utilize that contact. So this was one of the first things that we were able to do is reach out and say, Hey Anne will be there, what can you do?

Anne (23m 4s):
So we didn’t really know what that would mean.

Ashley (23m 7s):
I do wanna interject and just say a big thank you to Tony Crago. Tony was Drew’s assistant at one point and he kind of helped introduce us to her current one. So thank you to Tony and if you guys wanna know more from Tony, we’re gonna be doing a Q&A episode with him real soon. So be on the lookout for the call for questions.

Anne (23m 26s):
Yes. And also check out the previous episode we did with Tony, which was a lot of fun. Yep. Okay. So we got that affirmative, we’re in sort of thing. And then Anita and I quickly planned the trip, so literally like a little over a week before we planned this trip. Okay.

Anita (23m 43s):

Since I’m riding shotgun. Yes. Can I just say

Anne (23m 47s):
Yes.

Anita (23m 48s):
It was on your birthday that you were basically like, should we do this?

Anne (23m 53s):
Yes.

Anita (23m 54s):
Can this be a thing?

Anne (23m 56s):
I think you’re right.

Anita (23m 56s):
Can we go to New York City? And it just kind of all came together so quickly and so easily that it felt 100% like meant to happen.

Anne (24m 5s):
Yes.

Ashley (24m 5s):
Love it.

Anne (24m 6s):
Yeah. And I don’t really believe necessarily that the universe cares about us little humans, but sometimes it feels like you’re getting a little push, you know, it’s like, yes, absolutely. You feel something happening and it’s like I just have to do this. And I’m very fortunate that I am able to just pick up and do that. I mean obviously let’s go ahead and just jump to New York City. So we made our way there. We were there by Wednesday the 15th in the evening and just so excited. We’re like, can’t wait till the morning, just kind of buzzing all night. And then we’re making our way that morning to the studio and right when we get to the block of the studio, Ross is on the corner and so. And I kind of nudged Anita and she’s like, what?

Anne (24m 48s):
What? And then I was like, I’m just gonna go for it because we were about to cross and everyone in New York jaywalks. Okay. So like it was just us and Ross and maybe there was someone behind us, but there

really weren’t that many people like on the corner. And so I, I just like kind of looked over and was like, hi Ross.

Ashley (25m 1s):
Oh my gosh.

Anne (25m 2s):
And then I was, and he’s like, oh hi. He was like really sweet. And I said, we’re coming to the show. And I just wanted to say hi and we’re really big fans of Drew and we’re so excited. And he was like, great, I’ll see you. And I’ll look a lot better than this. And he looked great. Of course he always looks put together. I know, right? So I was like, you look amazing what you’re talking about. And then we’re like, okay, see you in there.

Ashley (25m 21s):
Aw. Yeah. Can I ask real quick? Yeah. Did he seem to realize that you guys were there?

Anita (25m 26s):
Yes, he did.

Anne (25m 27s):
Did he say something like, oh you guys got great seats?

Anita (25m 29s):
Yes he did. He came up to where we were sitting and he, he made a comment like that so he went hundred percent like realized where we were and that he had seen us on the street. Oh cute. Yeah, it was very cute.

Anne (25m 39s):
And I wish I would’ve like thought to take a picture but I was just like, he’s on his way to work. Literally.

Ashley (25m 43s):
Yeah. And you’re like crossing a street. That’s ok.

Anne (25m 45s):
Yes. But I’m glad I just acknowledged ’cause of course he was so sweet. I wanted to say also that we got permission ahead of time from her staff to bring Drew a gift. You’re not supposed to do that. It says it explicitly on the ticket

Ashley (25m 56s): Breaking the law. Yeah.

Anne (25m 58s):
We were instructed by her assistant to hand it to this really sweet guard. I think I said something about like really appreciating his role in protecting Drew or something. And he is like, yeah, he said something about how Drew like hugs everyone and is very like, you know, welcoming and sometimes that makes them feel a little bit like, come on Drew. Like don’t be so like opening yourself up to everybody. So it’s kind of interesting.

Ashley (26m 15s):
I could definitely see that. Yeah.

Anne (26m 22s):
I sort of explained to him ’cause he’s like, who are you that we’ve been in touch with her staff for many years and deeply respect that chain of command. At which point he brought up Chris Miller and like, do you know Chris Miller? And I was like, oh yeah, I actually met him in 2001 and that was my initial connection. And then we kind of both gushed about him a little bit.

Ashley (26m 37s):
How cute. Can I say when you texted me and you’re like, oh I had to give the gift to a security guard. I was like, damn it. Like it’s just gonna go in some random like pile of gifts. But no, then when you explained I was like, oh okay, that’s better.

Anne (26m 55s):
The little gift that we wanted to get Drew, actually it’s kind of funny how it came up.

Ashley (27m 0s):
It is.

Anne (27m 1s):
So last week in our episode we used a little clip about Drew saying she calls her house, Chez Sardine. And when we did that I was like, okay, I gotta make sure I can find this clip later. So then I like just typed the word Chez Sardine into our text and I think you did a, a test search to see if it would work. It was just sort of a silly thing. And you saw that you’d had a screenshot of a really cute tea towel.

Ashley (27m 25s):
So yeah, I, I mean I can tell this part because I actually am involved with this part. Yeah. So I just did like a random search sardine in my text and because the technology is insane now, it pulled up this tea towel that I had sent you a picture of a while back like, oh we should get this for Drew because it has a really cute illustration of three little sardines in their little tin can just like Drew and her daughters in bed. Yep. And and I was like, wait a minute, we should actually get this for her now that you’re going. So there was this whole thing, I won’t like go too far into it, but we ended up having to get it overnighted and luckily like the both the

maker of the towel and the shop where we bought it were super awesome and worked with us to make sure it got there in time.

Ashley (28m 9s):
So it was just kind of, again, it all worked out. It was like one of those signs as well.

Anne (28m 13s):
Yep. And then we had it delivered to my hotel and I was so excited when I got there and it was there. It was like, yes. Success.

Ashley (28m 19s):
Yes, I know. And we’ll share a picture of it in the episode page. Of course.

Anne (28m 23s):
Yes. And I’ll, I’ll mention that a little bit more later ’cause we were able to give it to Drew. We got a little bit of a response, so we’ll talk about that in a minute. When we got there we were ushered past like the lines of regular ticket holders, which always feels a little bit weird. Yeah. When we got in, we were greeted by name. I think they like talked to each other. Everyone has like a radio. So when we walked in they’re like, and we’re like, oh yes. Wow. And we were handed tickets with a little blue highlight across the front, which when I saw that I was like, what do other people’s tickets have? Like what does that mean? Because we still didn’t know where we would be sitting in the studio. Sure. And we’re just like thrilled like we’re here. And I also, before I really like move forward too much, Anita has never been able to meet Drew.

Anne (29m 5s):
So this was this opportunity for us to meet New York and for that to happen, like there was a certain buzzing ness. Like I was so excited for that

Ashley (29m 14s):
Same

Anne (29m 14s):
While we were sitting in Thera waiting room. This was one of the coolest like things. Yeah. Drew’s assistant was walking by and she was with the dogs Douglas and Lucy and we got to have a little moment with them. So I think I just, just like, hey. And she came over and the dogs were right at her tail. I started petting Lucy immediately. It was like such a fluffy sweet cloud. Oh my gosh.

Ashley (29m 41s): Amazing.

Anne (29m 41s):
And Lucy almost started to like lay down at my feet.

Anita (29m 46s):
Aw.

Anne (29m 46s):
Douglas was also there and I, I sort of like, the word that kept coming to my mind when I was thinking back on it is like, Douglas is so like regal and attentive. That’s sweet. Like it’s very cute and Lucy just seems like, is like, all right, I’m just gonna lay down here and chill. It was so cute. Okay.

Ashley (30m 5s):
Question. Did you tell Douglas and Lucy to listen to our pets episode?

Anne (30m 9s):
I, I didn’t, I didn’t wanna make a spectacle. I always felt like I was

Anita (30m 13s):
Ata,

Anne (30m 14s):
But yes, it was my chance to say thank you to her assistant for you know, getting us in there and gave her a big hug. And yeah, it was cool seeing the dogs. I mean amazing

Ashley (30m 25s):
If

Anne (30m 26s):
You watch the show, you know, you know that the dogs are around

Anita (30m 29s):
But yeah,

Anne (30m 30s):
I didn’t know that I would get to see them first so that, no

Ashley (30m 33s):
Kidding. Did anyone else in the waiting room like seemed to recognize the dogs?

Anne (30m 37s):
I don’t know.

Anita (30m 38s):
Yes. I felt like there were a couple of people who definitely kind of knew and recognized the dogs and tried to call them over. Oh my God. But the dogs did kind of immediately come to us and stick near us and like lay down near us. It was one of my favorite moments of the entire experience.

Ashley (30m 56s):
That is so cool.

Anne (30m 57s):
And we were joking after like I’m like, well we just have the aura, like Drew, like we’ve been, we’ve been modeling our like aura after this lovely person that happens to be their mom. So like Drew.

Anita (31m 10s):
Yeah. We could sense it. It was very nice of her to come in and like give us hugs. Yes. Oh

Anne (31m 18s):
Totally.

Anita (31m 19s):
And speak with us and yeah. I think she even thanked you for the gift perhaps.

Anne (31m 23s):
Maybe. I think she might’ve said Drew loved it at that point.

Anita (31m 27s):
Yeah, yeah, that’s right. She did. Oh wow.

Ashley (31m 29s):
That’s crazy to imagine like this was being delivered to her and you were on the other side of the wall.

Anne (31m 35s):
Yeah. Like she was looking at it. Well it was a trip. Like I saw the security guard who I handed to earlier, like walk by, go like 20 seconds and then come back empty handed. I’m like, that means she’s like in an office like right there.

Anita (31m 48s):

True. But you were also like, I hope that didn’t end up in a garbage can. Yeah, totally.

Anne (31m 53s):
So we entered the studio and we were still, we were kind of standing in line, slowly waiting. They were seating some people in the like kind of bleacher area and some people were sitting in the front like leather chairs, which we still didn’t know. Right. And then right when we walked up they said Anne and Anita.

Anita (32m 11s):
Wow.

Ashley (32m 12s):
That’s so cool you guys.

Anne (32m 15s):
I know. Yeah. And then we’re like yes. And then they ushered us to two of the four very front seats.

Ashley (32m 21s):
Yes.

Anne (32m 21s):
And we’re immediately like, what are we doing here? You know?

Anita (32m 25s):
Yeah. It was surreal.

Anne (32m 27s):
It was

Ashley (32m 29s):
Was the set just as beautiful as like it looks on screen,

Anne (32m 32s):
It was really beautiful but as usual of course like you can, you know when you walk into one of those studios you see like behind the facade. Yeah, yeah. Which is such a funny thing. And when you’re actually there, like there are camera cables everywhere. But it was really like a beautifully designed studio. We were admiring some of the books that were in the like side. Oh cool. Seats we were in were like leather swivel chairs. I know,

Ashley (32m 56s):

They’re so pretty. Yeah, I’ve totally noticed though.

Anne (32m 58s):
So comfy, the interview area was about 10 feet to our right and the kitchen area was about like 15 feet to our left just to kinda give you like gauging where stuff was happening. And

Ashley (33m 8s):
Then the Drew’s news

Anne (33m 10s):
Desk. Drew’s desk. Desk. Yeah.

Anita (33m 10s):
Feel like once we got in there and we’re seated I was like wow. It feels a lot smaller than it appears like on tv. Yes.

Anne (33m 17s):
And also the audience is not like a large, a super large audience.

Anita (33m 21s):
No, not at all.

Anne (33m 23s):
Okay. So now we get into Drew actually arriving on set. Yeah.

Ashley (33m 26s):
Where’d she enter from?

Anne (33m 28s):
I think she entered from the side door on the left. Do you remember Anita?

Anita (33m 31s):
I think she entered from the I. No, did she come down the the from the back

Anne (33m 36s):
Behind us?

Anita (33m 36s):
I think she came from behind us.

Ashley (33m 38s):
Yeah, I was, that’s kind of what I was wondering.

Anne (33m 41s):
But we were just like, our head was swiveling everywhere, like where is she gonna come from? So she first like was kind of ushered over to the area where she would be interviewing Lisa Ling and I thought it was after the interview that she actually like locked eyes with us. But Anita reminded me that it was actually before. So yes she walked over there. Oh my god. And then looked right at us and smiled and waved and then just kind of started to like shuffle over

Ashley (34m 10s):
Oh my God.

Anne (34m 10s):
And came over and like immediately hugged us and I think the first thing she said to me was, I love the gift or something to that effect. Oh she said she like wanted to come back and try to talk more but of course she’s running her show. We had the quickest little introduction to Anita.

Anita (34m 29s):
Yeah.

Anne (34m 29s):
Can you gimme your perspective on that moment Anita? ’cause I feel like I was so like what is happening?

Anita (34m 36s):
It’s so funny ’cause that’s the moment I remember the the best.

Anne (34m 40s):
Okay.

Anita (34m 40s):
Oh so she came out and she kind of like turned around and said I think a couple of things to like the rest of the audience to all of us I guess. And then she walked over to do the Lisa Ling interview and she sat down in the chair and then she kind of was like surveying the audience and looked over at us and then she made eye contact with both of us. But then she looked specifically at Anne and I think she like started to talk but then she realized she was quite far to make it like personal. Yeah. So then she got up and came over and was like hugging both of us and like speaking with us for an extended period when they should be filming.

Anita (35m 21s):
And then she like started to walk back over afterwards and like said something to the effect of like, oh like I’m so sorry like that, you know, I took the time to do that. Or like, I’m making us behind or something like that. I can’t really remember what the wording was, but she like actually took classic Drew. Yeah. She like took that moment when she like kind of put off the interview with Lisa to come and speak with us. Which I thought was very, very

Ashley (35m 47s):
Lisa’s like. Hello.

Anita (35m 48s):
Yeah.

Anne (35m 49s):
The other thing I wasn’t aware of, but obviously if I was in the bleachers and I saw Drew go up to somebody, I’d be like, who the hell’s that? Totally. Also, I, I have to like step back a second and say that the warmup person, which if you’ve ever been to a talk show, which Anita you had before, Ashley of course you and I’ve been to send, they do the, you know, the warmup person comes out and they were like, Drew loves talking to the audience. She’ll probably try to talk to all of you. Oops.

Anita (36m 16s):
Whoop.

Anne (36m 16s):
Or just the two of you right there. Yes. But so I, I do feel like we got like that attention there was, there was some other talking to the audience moments for sure. One other cute thing that I do remember from that moment is that she was kind of starting to walk back away from us towards the interview spot and she was like wanting to show her sardine ta to, to us I guess. Yes. Because she started to kind of try to unbutton her sleeve and I was like I know, I know. That’s why we got it for you.

Anita (36m 44s):
Yeah. But she couldn’t do it. She’s

Ashley (36m 46s):
Like, you won’t believe this but I have a sardine.

Anne (36m 48s):
Okay so now I’m just gonna like say what kind of what the segments of the show were just ’cause it’s kind of cool to talk about what we saw. So she did an interview with Lisa Ling as we, as we mentioned and it was an

investigative report she did about psychedelic mushrooms being used for trauma and mental illness and all kinds of stuff. Really fascinating. Wow. And one of the things Drew said was that yeah she has done mushrooms but when she’s done mushrooms she’s running in a field and listening to Ridge against the machine

Ashley (37m 27s):
That tracks.

Anne (37m 27s):
Yes. And then even though the, our view was kind of obstructed by these like massive TV cameras, we were able to see Drew kind of in like three quarter profiles sometimes depending on how she was looking. I don’t, I don’t know what your view was Anita at that

Anita (37m 45s):
Point. Yeah, same.

Anne (37m 47s):
Okay. But what we loved and we kind of cracked up about after is that we could see Douglas on like the fluffy rug at their feet, like cleaning himself almost the whole time. Oh my gosh. Which is so cute.

Anita (37m 58s):
Yes.

Anne (37m 58s):
Yeah. So, and other thing I’ll say about the dogs is I didn’t see Lucy for like almost the entire show until there’s a cooking segment towards the end and I saw Lucy kind of roaming around. I think you pointed out Lucy to me. Yeah.

Ashley (38m 12s):
She’s like food time

Anne (38m 13s):
Douglas was like following Drew everywhere. It was very cute.

Ashley (38m 16s):
Oh sweet. Anita, can I ask you, did you feel like Drew’s so tiny in person when you saw her where you’re like, oh my God she’s so tiny like that, that I always feel that way?

Anita (38m 26s):

Yes and no. No. I don’t know. I think maybe because this sounds strange but I used to be much larger. Like I’ve lost a lot of weight and so I feel like my perspective then is maybe a little bit different than it might be now. But Oh interesting. I, I feel like she wasn’t as like tiny as I think I pictured in my mind. Oh she’s definitely like a petite person but I don’t know she just wasn’t as like petite and little as I think I expected her to be.

Ashley (38m 56s):
Fascinating. Yeah. Okay, cool. Just curious.

Anne (38m 58s):
Ashlyn and I have always said every time we see her I’m like struck by how small she is. Right. But it’s not like, it’s not even one thing. It’s not like she’s so skinny or she’s so short. It’s like just

Ashley (39m 9s):
All around.

Anita (39m 10s):
Right. All

Anne (39m 11s):
Around. So now Drew’s news, which was so cute and fun as it always is, Drew and Ross, they had a story about texting and about like in relationships especially early in the relationship, like if texting is a good idea. Yeah. And Drew was like so firm in the, I hate texting side and Ross talked about how much he loved it and it was just kind of funny when you guys see the show, if you’ll see her just kind of like, I hate it. I hate it.

Ashley (39m 43s):
I can totally visualize that. I don’t even need to see you right now. I know the face.

Anita (39m 48s):
I’m with her by the way. You’re

Anne (39m 51s):
With her.

Anita (39m 51s):
Oh absolutely.

Anne (39m 52s):
Yeah. I’m such a texter. I do remember she said something like, I love it for logistics but other than that, yes

let’s just enjoy our time in person. Let’s not try to like communicate stuff through this.

Anita (40m 2s):
Exactly. I agree.

Anne (40m 3s):
I understand the idea but I’m just so, I’m like such a like into all the technology, let’s use the things that make efficient. Right. I don’t know. So I

Anita (40m 13s):
Think I’m very easily like misunderstood through text.

Anne (40m 14s):
Okay, okay. And

Anita (40m 16s):
Just in general honestly as a human. But I feel like through text especially, I always feel like there’s like, wait did you mean this? Yeah. Or did you mean that that happens a lot. So I think it’s way easier in person.

Anne (40m 27s):
It lacks tone. Yeah,

Anita (40m 28s):
True. Totally.

Anne (40m 29s):
So I get it. It was just really cute hearing her like ha

Anita (40m 34s):
Yeah

Anne (40m 34s):
There was a segment where they talked about like this tip that they like read about, about cutting a piece of cake using tongs, like kitchen tongs and they attempted to cut a piece of cake with the beautiful tongs, which I feel like that type, they’re like a bulkier handle. So I think that’s why it didn’t work. But anyway, it kind of failed. It kind of like smashed the cake. It was pretty funny.

Anita (40m 58s):
Yeah. They’re like rubber handles and I feel like you need like the The fully metal Yeah the metal metal tong.

Yeah.

Anne (41m 3s):
Like the flat handle ones. Yep. But Drew like tasted the cake I guess not realizing that it was pumpkin spice and she apparently hates pumpkin spice.

Anita (41m 12s):
Yeah.

Ashley (41m 13s):
I think she said that recently on the show.

Anita (41m 16s):
And then Ross offered like a piece to the audience. Yes. And I was very tempted to get it but I felt like it was one of those weird moments where I couldn’t tell if it was just for like to be so offering it. You know what I mean? Or if he really did some want someone to come up and take, take the piece of cake and try it.

Anne (41m 34s):
Well after the fact when I had that massive headache I really was wishing we had had that piece of cake.

Anita (41m 39s):
Absolutely.

Anne (41m 40s):
So one other thing that I, that I thought was really cute when we were watching the Drew news segment at one point, I don’t remember what they were talking about, but Drew looked over and we were petting Douglas ’cause Douglas had come down and she like, oh my god. And she gave us like a really scrunchie face smile and it was so cute ’cause it looked like she was like proud mama.

Anita (42m 2s):
Yes. Oh that’s so special. Isn’t cute. Absolutely

Anne (42m 6s):
That cute.

Ashley (42m 6s):
Love that. Oh my gosh you guys,

Anne (42m 9s):

Whenever Douglas was wandering I’d be like, come here. And because we were right up front,

Anita (42m 15s):
That was one of the three like very personal moments. Yes. Aw. Like that’s how I looked at it was like the first was when she came over before interviewing Lisa and then that was the second. Yes.

Anne (42m 23s):
It was so sweet. It was just like a little, I don’t know how to describe it but I loved that like it was like her baby.

Anita (42m 30s):
It was a very intimate moment that you would like almost do to like a friend. Exactly. Or like someone whos come to your home and meeting your pets for the first time.

Anne (42m 37s):
Yes. Like you look across the room at a party and you see them petting your loved your loved one.

Ashley (42m 41s):
I love that.

Anita (42m 42s):
It was so cute.

Anne (42m 44s):
So one other segment they did was a side dish competition because I love that Thanksgiving is like couple days after it airs. The judges were Eric Andre and his writing partner Dan Curry. So that was really fun that Drew did like a celery and Lee soup with Pilar. Yeah. And I forget what the other thing was Ross was doing with someone else and I’m sorry, I don’t know who

Anita (43m 7s):
With some sort of stuffing. Right.

Anne (43m 9s):
It was like a stuffing thing but then it had like falafel in it. I can’t remember. Yeah. It was so fun to see Pilar. Yeah,

Ashley (43m 15s):
I was gonna ask about that.

Anne (43m 16s):

I looked over at Anita and I was like, isn’t she so cute? And we were just admiring like her super cute blonde pixie cut and her, she just has

Ashley (43m 24s):
Like a personal style that I’m like, no one could pull this off, but you always look cute.

Anne (43m 28s):
Yeah. She, she knows what works for her I think. Yeah. So that was fun even though though once again because it was like over to the side TV cameras were basically obstructing our view, but it was still super cool to get like, you know, peeks here and there. A lot of stuff was going on ’cause there were like five people behind the like kitchen area and then Eric Andre and Dan Curry were off to the side. So there were like seven people kind of clustered in one corner.

Ashley (43m 52s):
Wow. That’s unusual.

Anne (43m 53s):
It was kind of crazy. And then Drew and Pilar won for their side dish and they got an award that was like, had a big Turkey on the top. And you remember how a couple weeks ago you said that Drew said she loves the Drew Barrymore show trophies, award

Ashley (44m 8s):
Trophies. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Anita (44m 10s):
That’s

Anne (44m 11s):
Awesome. So this, so this was one of them, I think the very end of the show was this like Turkey dance where they pulled a mother and daughter from the audience and had them wear these Turkey hats and they put boxes of feathers strapped to their back and they had to like kind of like twerk to get the feathers to come out. It was amazing. It was so funny. But the audience members were so cute and the daughter started to tear up when she was talking to Drew. She’s like, I’m such a big fan of you. And then Drew gave her a big hug of course and just made her feel lovely. You could tell it was like a really cool encounter. Anyway, that was super cute. And then after they were like kind of wrapping up the show, they filmed Drew and Eric Andre dance to Islands in the Stream and it’s already been posted on social media.

Anne (45m 2s):
So that’s something that they recorded right in front of us. Like it was immediately in front of us.

Ashley (45m 7s):
I know. I was like, were you guys right here for this? Yep.

Anne (45m 10s):
You were. Yeah. Yeah. And I like how they cut it together. It’s really cute. The one thing they didn’t show is that they attempted to do the Worm and Drew when she stood up had like fuzz all over the front of her clothing and she was wearing like this dark blue suit and immediately like all her people came out and were like rolling her, fixing her hair light

Ashley (45m 31s):
Rollers. Yeah.

Anne (45m 32s):
So after the show finished filming, Drew was standing on stage talking to the audience and she was talking about the holidays. And maybe you’ll have a little bit more of a recollection of exactly what she said Anita. But what I remember is that she talked about like whatever form of family you have, she like said that she didn’t have a traditional family growing up. And even with this blended family now she feels like she finally has that feeling surrounding the holidays of like belonging and all this stuff. And when they were talking, Ross and Drew’s hands were like held tight together. It was really sweet.

Anita (46m 5s):
Oh yeah. It was a very like sweet moment.

Anne (46m 8s):
Yeah. Do you remember anything else about what she said in that moment?

Anita (46m 11s):
I mean that was the gist of it and just a lot of talking about how you can, you know, create a family and that that’s what she’s always sought to do is create her own type of family with friends. And then that’s when she mentioned like kind of like the blended family with Allie and Will and the girls. And it was just a very like vulnerable, intimate moment with her sharing like details like that about her life, which I thought was really sweet. Yeah.

Anne (46m 38s):
And it, it was just to the audience, it wasn’t filmed. It was like that’s really cool. Her kind of like talking to us. Yeah. It was very sweet. And we, you know, we see lots of clips of stuff like this on social media so we saw that like,

Ashley (46m 49s):
I mean maybe it will be posted. That’d be pretty

Anne (46m 51s):
Cool. Maybe could be. So then after that happened, Drew approached us again just as the studio was about to start emptying out. So they were about to like kind of start ushering all of the audience members out. But I don’t know if I’m remembering it exactly right, so please correct me if I’m wrong, but she was basically like almost right away. Like, do you know our social media coordinator? Do you remember Anita? Like,

Anita (47m 12s):
So I kind of feel like when she approached us after filming, I think initially it was to thank you once again for the gift and to just kind of like just speak with us. But then she did, she said something like, have you connected with my social media manager? Yeah. And then you were like, like no. And then we’ve tried and there was a little bit of that discussion and then she was like, here come with me. Follow me. Oh

Ashley (47m 37s):
My God you guys,

Anita (47m 39s):
She motioned us with her arm. Yeah. Like with her hand. And then we just started following her backstage and of course there was this, this huge part of me that was like, we’re gonna see her office. Yeah. We’re gonna be like Right. Obviously we didn’t, it would’ve been amazing.

Ashley (47m 54s):
But are you just like, what is happening? What is happening? Oh my gosh. Absolutely. Yes.

Anne (47m 58s):
I feel like she just kind of said like we need to put you in touch. Which was so trippy. So she walks us over there, we kind of enter like the door that’s right at stage Wright. We’re right by where Fabrizio Moretti’s drawing is. And how did we find out? That was a drawing that he did Ashley,

Ashley (48m 16s):
She did some sort of cool feature on the design of the set and mentioned that they didn’t show that that was it, but I think we both were like, oh that’s definitely gotta be the one that has to be it. It’s like something he did in college, which is so cool. Yeah.

Anne (48m 31s):
She instructed basically the social media coordinator to exchange numbers with me.

Ashley (48m 36s):
God amazing.

Anne (48m 36s):
So we did it right there. We did that. And I started to explain to her just so like she knew, like I didn’t know if they’d already talked about it before, like I have no idea. But I started explaining to this social media gal, I said like, okay, we have a massive archive. I have no doubt that we would have useful material to you to use. Drew said something about like she really wants to do flashbacks. She was talking about flashbacks and she mentioned something about like the strike that there’s like certain stuff they know they can’t use.
Yes. Or something. So they’re trying to like yeah. Figure out what content they can use. And I was like interesting. We’ve got con, I think I said something like we’ve got content at the wazoo.

Ashley (49m 13s):
I mean true. That is another one of our slogans. Content up the wazoo.

Anne (49m 17s):
Yes. And then I, again, I don’t know how this came up necessarily, but she said like they have so much and then she said something like kind of to me, but it seemed like an example to her social media gal Drew said, they gave me one of the only pictures I have of my parents that’s hanging in my house.

Ashley (49m 36s):
Oh my God.

Anne (49m 37s):
And then I was like, yeah and that picture might be from when your mother was pregnant with you and she made this like face like she kind of didn’t remember that fact maybe or I don’t know. It was just like, oh

Anita (49m 49s):
It looked like she was about to tear up.

Ashley (49m 50s):
Yeah, well just like when we gave it to her, we love making her cry.

Anne (49m 53s):
And I think she was pregnant when we gave it to her, wasn’t she? Yes.

Ashley (49m 56s):
That was the whole idea. So that’s crazy because that was like nine years ago or something. And I know how touching that she remembered that’s from us.

Anne (50m 4s):
I know. And I almost, there’s always a part of me that’s like, and this is just me, whatever, questioning my own self worth or whatever, but just being like, she doesn’t really remember who I am, you know, like yeah sure that that they’ve just, her people have prepped her and but that moment I was like, oh, she connects this moment with like the drm, you know, which I was like, yes. Like this is exactly what we want. We wanna be like a source for her.

Ashley (50m 27s):
I also just wanna point out like how many times we have like looked in the background of her pictures or videos like are any of the photos we gave her back there? So to hear that she definitely still has one of them up in her house. Yep. Feels so good.

Anne (50m 39s):
I, that’s definitely the most special one

Ashley (50m 41s):
Too. Yeah. Love that moment. That one like really got me teary when you told me that. Yeah.

Anne (50m 47s):
That that was pretty cool. And maybe you remember a little bit more than I do Anita about how the podcast came up. I think I said it out loud.

Anita (50m 55s):
I think you were the first to actually, yes. You. You did. Yeah. Okay.

Anne (50m 59s):
So I said something like, oh, and we have a podcast now. And Drew said, I just learned about it. Holy shit. Yes. And I think she means from the card, ’cause I mentioned it in the card,

Ashley (51m 9s):
Like, can we just take a moment? Like she knows about the pod now. That’s the thing. That’s a real thing. I

Anne (51m 15s):
Know.

Anita (51m 16s):
Can I also mention that I said I’m not Ashley

Anne (51m 19s):
Because every time I said Ashley, they were looking at you. Yeah.

Anita (51m 25s):
Yes. They kept looking over at me and I didn’t really know what to say. So eventually I was just like, I’m not Ashley.

Ashley (51m 31s):
That’s okay. That happened when Jolena and I went and Jolena had to be like, I’m not Anne. She could come.

Anne (51m 37s):
It’s unfortunate we haven’t done it together.

Ashley (51m 41s):
I know we will. We will. Yeah.

Anne (51m 43s):
In that moment I was like, Anita is an old fan and she’s been a fan even longer than I have. Like she’s here with me. And I was like, we met because of you. Like Oh really? Yeah. Yeah.

Anita (51m 52s):
Oh you guys, that’s so cool.

Anne (51m 55s):
But anyway, Drew said something to the effect of like, yeah, I know about it now and we wanna promote it. And I was like, oh my God. I just kind of like, for a second was like, no,

Anita (52m 4s):
Because

Anne (52m 4s):
I was like, that means too many listeners and I have to do a really good job editing now.

Ashley (52m 9s):
Dude, bring it on. I’m ready. I’m ready. I mean, we’ll see, like we, I think we both have this in common and we’re always like, okay, like we’ll see. We’ll just keep doing what we’re doing. We’re not sitting here like, well this is definitely gonna happen, but if it does, yay.

Anne (52m 24s):
Yes. Okay. So just a couple more little tidbits. I was wearing a, a bracelet that was part of the Dear Drew line that she did with Amazon years ago and Drew noticed it. Yes.

Ashley (52m 35s):
I was wondering about that.

Anne (52m 37s):
I, I mean we know that she’s involved in the things that she puts her name on, but I still have a like a thought that maybe they’re like, okay stuff like this. You know? Sure. Like that, that there might be something where it’s like, okay, we know you’re aesthetic now. We’ll just put your name on it. But I just felt like that gave it this like, oh she really did. Like she knows her lines even though it’s years defunct.

Ashley (52m 56s):
Yeah. I feel like she is like sort of a control freak with her lines. So that makes sense. Not in a good way. In a good way. In a good

Anne (53m 3s):
Way. Yes. But I was like, yes, it’s, and she’s like, oh, that’s so cool.

Ashley (53m 5s):
Well she remember when I went she knows that

Anne (53m 8s):
Drew

Ashley (53m 9s):
Necklace on. Yeah, I know.

Anne (53m 10s):
So cool. And then the last thing I was gonna say is that she mentioned that she wants to frame the TT towel we gave her. Oh my god.

Ashley (53m 18s):
I

Anne (53m 18s):
Think she said like she wants to like hang it in her kitchen or she said something like that. Yeah,

Ashley (53m 22s):
That’s what I was envisioning. Like imagine we’re gonna see it in the background. I will die. Oh my gosh. And I’d be so happy for the maker because it was really cool that she worked with us to get it there in time. Totally.

Anne (53m 33s):
Yes. The ending of it was sort of like a blur.

Ashley (53m 37s):
I’m sure there were people trying to like esher her away. Like let’s go. Yeah. We got stuff to do a whole other show to tape

Anne (53m 43s):
And then Yeah. And then we made our way out and we’re just buzzing and we called you right after. So you got our like

Ashley (53m 49s):
Pretty fresh. I know. I was like screaming and crying in my office afterward. My coworker’s like, are you okay? I was like, oh my God. I’ll try to explain what happened. You’re not really gonna get it. But

Anne (53m 59s):
They’re like, what? Wait, why? Why?

Anita (54m 1s):
Okay. Can I mention like a few details that I just remember from the experience?

Anne (54m 6s):
Yes, please do. Please. Anything I left out and anything that specifically impacted you, I wanna hear all of it.

Anita (54m 14s):
Okay. So these are just little things that I think I, like I noticed about her or things that happened. So one was like when she crossed her eyes.

Anne (54m 21s):
Yeah.

Anita (54m 21s):
Like during, I think it was during Drew’s news in that like very typical Drew way. Yes. And I was just like, ah. There it is. Yeah. There was another moment where she was talking about friendship or something and you

and I and we clutched hands. Yeah.

Anne (54m 34s):
And she

Anita (54m 35s):
Did look at us in that moment. Yeah.

Anne (54m 37s):
Sweet.

Anita (54m 38s):
I remember she kind of like looked over while we were doing that and that was a sweet moment. Yeah. When we went kind of like backstage, she was drinking her iced tea. Oh. With like a silicone straw and she kept biting on the straw.

Ashley (54m 51s):
Oh my gosh.

Anita (54m 52s):
And I, I thought it was really cute. I just kept noticing because I wasn’t talking. Yes. Like for the most part. You and she were talking and like kind of talking about the ze and the podcast and so I felt like an observer and I was taking in a lot of these little like moments and things that were happening. Oh my gosh. And I just remember her chewing on this straw

Ashley (55m 10s):
Dude Anita. You know, we love these tidbits of these. Yes. This is awesome.

Anne (55m 14s):
Yes.

Anita (55m 14s):
Her shoes were really cool.

Anne (55m 17s):
Yeah, they were, they

Anita (55m 19s):
Were like platform heels kind of. And they were like a navy blue or black, like red polka dots. At first I thought

they were hearts.

Ashley (55m 26s):
You know what’s so funny is that I’ve noticed them on the floor of the wardrobe room a lot. Her stylist Lee will like post a picture in, in the mirror every day. And one time I was like, I love those shoes on the ground. I already had my eyes on them.

Anita (55m 40s):
Yeah. They were really beautiful. And I also noticed that a lot of the times when she would approach us or talk to us or like make eye contact, I would kind of like briefly look around after. And I could definitely see that a lot of people in the audience were like, why them? Yeah.

Anne (55m 54s):
We were,

Ashley (55m 54s):
They we, we have felt that vibe many a time where we’re like, Carrie, sorry, not sorry. I guess

Anne (56m 1s):
I’m also thinking a little bit like why me? How did I get this experience? But in a

Anita (56m 5s):
Good way. Yeah, exactly.

Ashley (56m 7s):
Well we’ve worked really hard for these moments so I’ll just say that. Yes.

Anita (56m 12s):
Yeah, for

Ashley (56m 12s):
Sure. Luck.

Anne (56m 13s):
And I also just, I have to express like I still feel very lucky even though there has been this like path sort of laid in advance. Like I think something I wrote in my journal when I was writing about it is like I’m so, I feel so grateful to have like built these connections over the years. It’s not, not just like I just came in there, had a the right vibe and she walked up to it. It’s like it’s not, and it’s not about like the length of the fandom ’cause it’s like, you know, somebody in that audience could have been again like a fan from ET era and we’re just

like absolutely lucky as hell to have like built this and you know, like, and there. And I think the other thing that I love that you said Anita, when you kind of came out of the experience, you’re like, Drew’s just human.

Anita (56m 58s):
Exactly. I feel like obviously it was an amazing experience. I’m so grateful to have had it. But I think sometimes when we meet our idols, this a really amazing thing is to realize like they’re just a person. Totally. And for some people I think that that’s a letdown, but for me it made it even more special.

Ashley (57m 18s):
Yeah. I think that’s one of the things that we’re drawn to about her is that she has flaws. Exactly. And she’s very vulnerable and open about those things. So she’s more relatable that way.

Anita (57m 27s):
Exactly. Oh, and another cool moment that we didn’t mention Yes. Is the first time that she came over to hug us. She had the like sparkle or whatever on her nose. Oh. And we were both like, oh you, well you actually first said you’ve got something on your nose. And she was like, where? And kind of did that look where you’re like kind of trying to look down at your nose to like see what’s on it.

Ashley (57m 47s):
Oh my gosh.

Anita (57m 48s):
We both like pointed to where it was. Yeah. And then she like brushed it off and she was like, thank you. Amazing.

Ashley (57m 53s):
Oh

Anita (57m 53s):
My gosh, that was a great moment.

Anne (57m 57s):
It probably came off of like one of our clothes or something. I think it was right on the tip of her cute little nose.

Anita (58m 2s): How sweet

Ashley (58m 2s):

Did you get to sort of see her in producer mode? Because that was one of the things I thought was so cool when I went to a taping was like I’d never really seen her on a set and how she like works. And it was really cool to see her like sort of be like down to business and being the boss and stuff. Did you get to see that at all?

Anne (58m 20s):
I feel like, I feel like it’s a very well-oiled machine. Yes. And she’s got like a lot of staff doing like very specific jobs. Like I feel like it was a very professional set while also feeling very warm. Like there was a lot of lovely comradery amongst the the like crew. Didn’t you kind of feel that Anita like

Anita (58m 39s):
Absolutely. I feel like probably at the beginning when the chauffeur started, I think that that producer hat was probably on more until they kind of like, you know what I mean? They kind of worked out the kinks. Yeah.
And Now, they know how things flow and how Drew wants things.

Ashley (58m 54s):
Cool. That makes sense.

Anne (58m 56s):
Yeah. Yeah. And like you mentioned sort of the control freak thing around her brands. Like it might be like she found the people she trusts to get the job done. Yeah.

Anita (59m 5s):
For sure.

Anne (59m 5s):
But yeah, I didn’t really see that. But there is that thing of like, okay, just tell me where I need to be and I’m gonna be there. Like she’s there with bells on. We saw that like excitement.

Anita (59m 13s):
Yes. So, and like a couple other things that I’m just remembering right now Yes. Is that her photographer who was on set was taking photos while Anne and I were talking with her backstage.

Ashley (59m 24s):
Yes, that’s right. We’re hoping to get some copies of those, but hopefully by the time this airs.

Anita (59m 29s):
Yes. Yeah. That would be amazing. And then she also, during the Lisa Ling segment was, I mean you’ll hear this obviously and see this when you watch the show, the episode, but she was talking about how she went

on a date with like a veteran. Oh yeah. And he was talking about his experience with Shrooms and how great they were for his like post-traumatic stress disorder.

Ashley (59m 48s):
That’s interesting.

Anita (59m 50s):
And how they stay in touch and they do speak and like text back and forth from time to time. But they like did obviously it didn’t turn into a relationship.

Ashley (59m 59s):
Wow.

Anne (59m 59s):
Yeah. That was interesting. I, I forgot about that. But yeah, she, yeah, she did say she’s very interested in his experience. So that was, that was really cool.
Anita (1h 0m 7s):
Yes.

Anne (1h 0m 7s):
Okay. I’m sure that there’s gonna be like little memories that’ll pop up, but that was our experience of the Drew Barrymore show.

Ashley (1h 0m 14s):
Incredible. Yeah. I can’t even really be jealous ’cause I was just so excited and happy for you guys. Aw. And as it was happening, I guess I should mention this. Yeah. Like I knew, I knew you met the dogs and all that, but then once you guys went in, you know you can’t use your phones at all. Yes. Obviously I’m just for the listeners. Yeah.

Anne (1h 0m 31s):
We had to turn ’em off. So I was just

Ashley (1h 0m 33s):
Like radio silence, like, oh my God, what’s happening? What’s happening? And then I get a message from Tony Crago, a photo of you guys talking to Drew!

Anne (1h 0m 39s): That was so cool.

Anita (1h 0m 41s):
Yeah. I wish I looked less like,

Ashley (1h 0m 44s):
Well weird you were excited that it comes through, but I like, as soon as I saw it I was just like, oh my God. And just so happy for you guys. Yeah. Like it’s happening.

Anita (1h 0m 55s):
Yeah. I just love that there’s photographic evidence that I met her.

Anne (1h 0m 58s):
I know. Yeah. Like if we get nothing else, how cool that we got that.

Anita (1h 1m 2s):
Exactly. Absolutely.

Anne (1h 1m 3s):
The one thing I’ll say about the photo and we can probably share it in the episode page ’cause why not? Sure. There’s a something crazy happening with my hand in Drew’s hand. You just gotta see it.

Ashley (1h 1m 18s):
They’re inter meshing. Yeah.

Anne (1h 1m 19s):
We’re like about to hold hands, but I like have my hand open and hers is like trying to grab my palm. It’s very funny.

Anita (1h 1m 25s):
Yeah.

Anne (1h 1m 26s):
So yeah, there was our magic most recent for me encounter with Ms. Drew

Ashley (1h 1m 32s):
My first Congratulations you guys so cool.

Anita (1h 1m 35s):
My first and most likely only encounter,

Ashley (1h 1m 37s):
But you know. Well it’s a pretty good one.

Anne (1h 1m 39s):
I’d say. So. It

Ashley (1h 1m 41s):
Was amazing. You’re only gonna do one that was the right way. Yeah, absolutely.

Anne (1h 1m 44s):
Okay, so anything else for the end of the show, Ash?

Ashley (1h 1m 49s):
Someone’s ready for me to be done.

Anne (1h 1m 53s):
Okay. I wanna make sure we have a big thank you to Anita for joining us. Thank you so much.

Ashley (1h 1m 60s):
Yes, thank you Anita.

Anita (1h 2m 1s):
Oh, thank you so much for having me.

Anne (1h 2m 4s):
Yes. And thank you for coming to New York with me. Yeah. And then agreeing to of course, spend another hour of your time while L is fussing. No, of

Anita (1h 2m 12s):
Course.

Anne (1h 2m 13s):
I so appreciate it. And yeah, this is really exciting. I feel like it’s a nice, like potential step forward for the pod for this relationship to continue.

Ashley (1h 2m 22s):
Ooh, stay tuned on that one. Yes. We’ll be

Anne (1h 2m 25s):
Absolutely

Ashley (1h 2m 27s):
Yes. So thank you guys. If you do wanna do your own part to help grow the pod, you can subscribe, you can review us on Apple Podcasts, we’ll read it on the air. You can leave ratings on Apple and Spotify and you can follow us on Instagram at How Do You Drew pod and at Drewseum. And we’ll share some stuff for this episode. So you’re gonna wanna be looking

Anne (1h 2m 51s):
Yes. And also don’t forget to subscribe to our Patreon. Find us there at How Do You Drew. Visit our website at How Do You Drew dot com. Check out the episode page for this week for a couple tidbits and little insights into our experience at the Drew Barrymore Show. And send listener mail to How Do You Drew [email protected]. Tell us you know what you love about the show. Send us an email after you watch and let us know if you spot us.

Ashley (1h 3m 16s):
Yeah, I love that. It’s gonna air so soon. That’s so

Anne (1h 3m 19s):
Exciting. Yes. Once again, the episode will air on the 22nd of November and I’m guessing it’s up on the, up on YouTube like the next day.

Ashley (1h 3m 25s):
Sometimes same day. Oh,

Anne (1h 3m 27s):
Cool. And then I’m gonna do a little question to take us out. I, oh, what’s your favorite Thanksgiving side dish?

Ashley (1h 3m 33s):
It’s gotta be food. I’m a, I’m a stuffing girl.

Anne (1h 3m 38s):
Oh, okay. What about you Anita?

Anita (1h 3m 40s):
It’s most likely, I would have to say stuffings a close second, but mashed potatoes.

Ashley (1h 3m 45s):
Oh yeah, that would be my number two. Yeah.

Anita (1h 3m 48s):
I love the curb.

Anne (1h 3m 50s):
Yeah. I mean

Ashley (1h 3m 51s):
Carbs and starch. Yeah.

Anne (1h 3m 53s):
And I would like mash all those things together. But I’m just gonna say my favorite is canned cranberry sauce. No, not the bunny. But part of the reason why is ’cause I feel like I have, it cracks me up so much to pull it out of the can and slice it and then smash it with all the rest of my food.

Ashley (1h 4m 9s):
No. Yeah. I made fresh cranberry sauce yesterday. Yeah. And I promise if you had that you would’ve been like, no more can.

Anne (1h 4m 16s):
No, I’ve, I’ve had lots of different stuff.

Anita (1h 4m 19s):
I’m with you Anne. I like the cans, but

Anne (1h 4m 22s):
It’s, it’s just one of those, it’s so nostalgic and I, when I have cranberry sauce that is like textured, I’m like, this tastes good. But I almost want the weird hand stuff back. Alright, thank you again. Thank you everybody for tuning in and hearing all our excitement about this past week’s fun, fun stuff. And we’ll see you next Drewsday.

Ashley (1h 4m 40s): Thank you. Bye-Bye

Anita (1h 4m 42s): Bye.

Anne (1h 4m 43s):
This episode of the How Do You Drew podcast was researched and produced by Ashley and Anne from thedrewseum.com with help from our sponsor, Positive Medium.
Ashley (1h 5m 5s):
Special thanks to Matt Costa for our lovely theme song, Roxy Prima, for our adorable logo. And last but not least, Drew, Barrymore and all the Drewbies who love her, we do this for you. Thank you.
Anne (1h 5m 16s): Thank you.

Episode 060 – AnOther Magazine & POP, 2005 - Transcript

Ashley (22s):
Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew.

Anne (26s):
This is A Drew Barrymore Podcast, brought to you by the Drewseum dot com

Ashley (30s):
And sponsored by our friends at Positive Medium.

Anne (33s):
I am Anne.

Ashley (34s):
And I’m Ashley. Before we get into anything, my daughter has a friend over and I was like, okay, I’m gonna go record. And she’s like, oh yeah, you have a podcast. What’s it about? And Milla goes, it’s just about this like famous girl she likes. I was like, wow.

Anne (52s):
But would her friend know who that is?

Ashley (54s):
I don’t know. I wasn’t in the room anymore and I was busy, so I didn’t care. I just thought it was interesting,

Anne (1m 1s):
This famous girl that she likes.

Ashley (1m 4s):
I mean, it’s true.

Anne (1m 5s):
I love how like nonchalant that is. Yeah. Your 14 year old.

Ashley (1m 11s):
Yeah, 14 now.

Anne (1m 13s):
Holy. Shit.

Ashley (1m 14s):
I know. Really crazy. When we started this podcast, she wasn’t even a teenager yet. That’s pretty weird.

Anne (1m 14s):
Whoa! That is weird.

Ashley (1m 24s):
Yeah, I know. All right, let’s get down to business. Okay. I wanna give a shout out to our two newest Patreon members. Woo. Julie and our wonderful friend Tess. Hi guys. And thank you.

Anne (1m 29s):
Thank you Julie and Tess. So happy to have you. We will have some fun things for you, I promise. And if you wanna become a patron, go to patreon.com/howdoyouDrew.

Ashley (1m 49s):
Yeah. Yeah. $1 a month. Guys, that’s nothing.

Anne (1m 52s):
It’s nothing. Gotta break down to how many cents that is per day. It’s like 3 cents. Okay, so what do you got for us?

Ashley (1m 60s):
Okay. I kind of put this under follow ups because we had our ranking of our, so we ranked Drew’s performances, like our favorites of Drew’s performances once. Anyway, Entertainment Weekly just came out with a ranking of her 17 best movies and TV shows. I’m not sure why 17. It’s like such an arbitrary number.

Anne (2m 20s):
It is.

Ashley (2m 21s):
And this wasn’t for performances, for what I could tell, it was just the movies or TV shows themselves. Yeah. So I shared it on our Drewseum Instagram @drewseum and it was pretty fun to see a lot of reactions and responses from people who were like, where’s this movie? Where’s this movie? Or this should have been higher. So it was kind of fun. We’ll definitely share it. I’m curious like what were your thoughts on this list?

Anne (2m 45s):
When I went over it I was like, this is too hard for me. Yeah. Like even just us doing what we did, like it was too hard, but I didn’t notice the glaring things that were missing. Okay. I did notice that like some of our favorites are towards the top. Like I wasn’t surprised that like Ever After, I mean, I kind of was a little bit surprised that Ever After is up there, even though we love it.

Ashley (3m 7s):
Yeah.

Anne (3m 8s):
I don’t know. I don’t know.

Ashley (3m 10s):
I was surprised as I was scrolling and I’m like, okay, obviously ET right? And I’m like, yeah, ET is number two. What the heck is number one? Like I could not think of what it was gonna be. Yeah. And then it was Grey Gardens and I was like, oh, okay. But like funny how I just totally forgot about that. It didn’t even cross my mind.

Anne (3m 29s):
Yeah. Yeah. Because I don’t, isn’t there something weird about like how, and maybe it’s about like when things came out. Yeah,

Ashley (3m 36s):
I think that’s part of it.

Anne (3m 37s):
It’s almost like what we think as like our favorite things also have like it have to do with our formative nature of our fandom. Right? Yeah. And Grey Gardens being on there, it’s like, we’re like, yeah, of course. But we already knew she was great by then. You know? It’s

Ashley (3m 49s):
Like, yeah, I was, I was surprised to see Firestarter and Irreconcilable Differences, even though they were the like bottom two. I was sort of like, I feel like Mad Love or Boys on the Side is both of those are better than those films.

Anne (4m 4s):
It’s interesting for within 17 movies to not have Mad Love, at least make an appearance. It’s surprising. Yeah. And you made a good point that Music and Lyrics seems way too high.

Ashley (4m 18s):
Yeah,

Anne (4m 19s):
I agreed That’s, that’s not a favorite of ours

Ashley (4m 22s):
And I don’t think it’s a better movie than Whip It or Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, like objectively. I just don’t think anybody would agree with that personally. I

Anne (4m 30s):
Guess I didn’t look at like the research whose ranking was this, you know? Yeah.

Ashley (4m 34s):
I think it was just one journalist.

Anne (4m 36s):
Okay.

Ashley (4m 37s):
Anyway,

Anne (4m 38s):
It’s fun to think about and I’m glad that we had some fun in our social media with it, so that’s great. Yeah,

Ashley (4m 43s):
We sure did. Thanks everybody for contributing and chiming in. That was, I was like, whoa, we got so much more of a response than I expected. It’s fun to see all those opinions.

Anne (4m 52s):
Yes. All right. What else you got?

Ashley (4m 54s):
This is sort of a follow up as well about Drew’s arm tattoo with the sardines, but on The Drew Barrymore Show, on Drew’s News, they were doing a story about people who name their homes. And Ross I guess has like a fancy one for his house. And so Drew realized that she had something that she could call her home and I thought we could play the audio.

Drew (5m 17s):
Welcome to Chez Sardine. It’s the hottest club in town. It’s so exclusive. It only has three members. Oh, it is open tonight. This is what you do to the girls. Yeah. This is my routine with the girls. Oh, cute. She sardine.

Anne (5m 35s): Chez Sardine

Ashley (5m 36s):
Chez Sardine. And of course this ties back to Drew’s tattoo because she got the three sardines on her arm in honor of her and her daughters being snuggled up in bit together. Super

Anne (5m 47s):
Cute. Yeah, super cute. I love it. It’s so Drew in the perfect way. Yep.

Ashley (5m 53s):
This is super random and it doesn’t really fall under any category, but I wanted to bring it up.

Anne (5m 58s):
Okay.

Ashley (5m 59s):
So you know, obviously that The Adventures of Con Sawyer and HuckleMary Finn, this TV movie that Drew did in 1985 is like the most obscure thing she’s ever done, right? Yeah. Like no one’s seen it. You can’t find it anywhere. It’s just one of those weird sort of lost in time things. It was never released on video. Yeah. So anyway, frequent writing in person Christian a while ago, he found half of it on I think the internet archive.

Anne (6m 30s):
Oh.

Ashley (6m 30s):
So it had apparently like reran in 93 or 94 and somebody had taped it then, which I love because it has all the commercials and it, I remember a lot of them.

Anne (6m 41s):
Oh my God, that’s cool.

Ashley (6m 44s):
But yeah, so it’s just the first half and it’s literally half an hour. So I guess the entire thing is only an hour with commercials, so it’s really short.

Anne (6m 54s):
Okay.

Ashley (6m 55s):
So I kind of had forgotten about it. He had sent it to us and I saved it in our drive. And then somebody out of the blue left us a comment on one of our episode pages asking about it and saying like they’d never, they

could never find it. Oh. And so anyway, it took me down this rabbit hole and I was like, oh my God, I have to watch this thing. It’s not great quality, but it’s there. It’s viewable and Wow. Is it bad?

Anne (7m 20s):
Oh my god.

Ashley (7m 21s):
It’s bad.

Anne (7m 22s):
Do you have like one printed photo from it or something?

Ashley (7m 22s):
I have a couple. I have quite a few press photos. Yeah. Okay. The press photos are out there.

Anne (7m 30s):
Yeah. But that’s so cool.

Ashley (7m 33s):
You need to watch it. It’s like painful. It’s like a lot of the stuff from the eighties where I’m just like, why? What was wrong with people? It’s just rough. I don’t know. I kind wanted you to watch it and then we’ll talk about it at another episode. Let’s do that.

Anne (7m 43s):
Sounds good. Is it possible that for us to link on the episode page?

Ashley (7m 51s):
Yeah, we could. The first half hour of this video is like Winnie the Pooh. So you have to go, you have to scroll halfway through.

Anne (7m 59s):
Oh, okay.

Ashley (7m 60s):
A little heads up.

Anne (8m 2s):
Okay. So since the show’s back, we’ve got to hear all about the things that Drew has passion for. Can you tell me what Drew loved this past week?

Drew (8m 13s):
I love, love.

Ashley (8m 15s):
Okay. This week Drew loves a periodical.

Anne (8m 15s):
Oh yeah.

Ashley (8m 20s):
Martha Stewart. Old News, we know that. Comedy obviously. Being with her friends again, obviously. The two girls club. And I’m a member of that too. Being a mom of two girls, so high five Drew.

Anne (8m 35s):
That’s right.

Ashley (8m 37s):
Cher, exactly as she is.

Anne (8m 41s):
That’s so great.

Ashley (8m 42s):
And I told you when I was watching them talk about Cher, Drew was trying to do an impression of her and saying she couldn’t do it. Yes. And I was dying because she impersonates her at the beginning of SNL in 1999.

Anne (8m 53s):
Yes. It’s my own design.

Ashley (8m 57s):
Thank you. I was hoping you would do that. And then lastly, we got some food things. Drew loves butter, cherry and peach.

Anne (9m 6s): Oh, me too.

Ashley (9m 7s):

Oh yeah. Good combos.

Anne (9m 8s):
All those together.

Ashley (9m 9s):
Ooh, why not

Anne (9m 11s):
Melted into like a crumble

Ashley (9m 13s):
A pie. Yes, A crumble. Oh,

Anne (9m 16s):
We always come back to food.

Ashley (9m 18s):
Always.

Anne (9m 20s):
You know, you might’ve heard us complain a little bit about how many recipes there were in Drew magazine, but I think we actually secretly are completely on board for that.

Ashley (9m 29s):
Good point. Good point.

Anne (9m 30s):
All right. So what did you pull for this week in Drew history?

Ashley (9m 34s):
All right, let’s go to November 18th. Hey, that’s Joalena’s birthday, in the year 2000.

Anne (9m 43s):
Alright.

Ashley (9m 44s):
So this is funny because this kind of came up recently because we had that Pauly Shore doing like a weird fake proposal to Drew on her show.

Anne (9m 52s):
Yes.

Ashley (9m 53s):
So I got flashbacks to this one. So when I saw that this is like this week, I’m like, we gotta talk about it. So let’s talk about Tom Green hosting Saturday Night Live and Drew of course being in attendance

Anne (10m 8s):
And

Ashley (10m 8s):
He pulled her on stage and said that they were gonna get married at the end of the show live right there. Do you remember watching this?

Anne (10m 17s):
Old prankster. Oh my God. Very well. Yeah. I also am still a little bit confused if it was like actually supposed to happen because they have like, they show her in a dress, they show her friends there, her actual friends.

Ashley (10m 32s):
Yeah. So we had Nancy Juvonen and Jillian Fink. Jillian Dempsey now. Yeah. They were there with Drew in the audience and then they’re backstage with Molly Shannon all in bridesmaid’s dresses and that whatever that gown is that Drew’s wearing. Oh my God, sorry. But it’s ugly.

Anne (10m 52s):
It’s old fashioned. I think it’s kind of cute. But what I remember is that on, I guess The Grapevine. Yeah. It had to be The Grapevine. Yeah. We like, people were like, I don’t understand, was it a joke?

Ashley (11m 5s):
Like I think we were chiming in like live while people were watching it. Like I remember being like, oh my gosh, they just showed her backstage like is this really happening? Like what’s going on? My takeaway these days is it was never gonna be real, but they really played it up like throughout the show, making it seem like it was gonna happen. And then so anybody who doesn’t isn’t familiar at the very end, Tom’s alone on stage, Drew never comes. And it just credits roll while he’s go like yelling her name.

Anne (11m 35s):
I bet it was probably just like Tom’s idea. They thought it was hilarious. Oh yeah, for sure. When did they actually get married?

Ashley (11m 42s):
So it would’ve been like eight months later.

Anne (11m 44s):
Okay. But yes, I remember that classic, classic. I love how 2000 her outfit is by the way.

Ashley (11m 52s):
Oh, I totally had a top that I’m like, oh, I must’ve been inspired by this. Like

Anne (11m 56s):
Yeah, not the ugly dress

Ashley (11m 57s):
So similar. No, not the ugly dress, the striped top. Yeah.

Anne (12m 0s):
But it’s like striped top low like. Yeah. Low rise pants.

Ashley (12m 5s):
Actually I’m almost like, are those the same black pants she wore to the Titan AE premiere a few months before where her

Anne (12m 11s):
Probably

Ashley (12m 12s):
Thong straps were showing And she’s got that like super skinny belt. It’s like a chain. Yeah.

Anne (12m 18s):
It’s not really a functional belt. Oh.

Ashley (12m 20s):
But she looks so pretty and

Anne (12m 21s):
She does look really pretty

Ashley (12m 23s):
Crazy how young she is. Just a little baby.

Anne (12m 26s):
She’s got her dark brown hair. Anyway, that was hilarious. That was a good pull. And yeah, it’s funny that it just came up. What’s new with Drew this week?

Ashley (12m 35s):
I didn’t get a chance to do a lot of watching on the show. I’m a little behind this week, so sorry, we’ll catch up next week. But I thought this was cool. So Tallulah Willis, who is Bruce Willis and Demi Moore’s daughter.
She came on the show, I guess it was her first interview ever. Oh. And they had a really great conversation talking about rehab and like having your story about that broken without your consent. I guess a nurse when Tallulah was in rehab, broke the story.

Anne (13m 7s):
Oh

Ashley (13m 7s):
Yeah. They also both talked about how like sharing it afterward to help others and then sort of like how they both know that they have a privileged life but that doesn’t, like, does that mean you can’t complain and like dealing with that. Wow. Yeah, it was really cool. Definitely worth watching. She was a like a lovely person. I, I was really impressed by her. And then I thought this was just kind of a fun random Drew shared a term called Barr-anoia and I guess her dad coined about Barrymore slash paranoia. So like I think there’s a guy up in the tree watching me that That’s crazy. It can’t be, oh no.

Ashley (13m 47s):
There actually is like a paparazzi guy in the tree. That was Drew’s example.

Anne (13m 52s):
Barr-aranoia.

Ashley (13m 54s):
I know. I’ve never heard her say that. So I just was like neither. We have to mention that.

Anne (13m 58s):
I love that her dad coined that I, I feel like every time, but every time we hear some little tidbit of something her dad said like he clearly was just like spouting just hilarious, crazy stuff all the time.

Ashley (14m 10s):
Yeah, he definitely had a way with words.

Anne (14m 13s):
Yeah, totally

Ashley (14m 14s):
Kick that bag man. Yeah.

Anne (14m 18s):
Alright, what else do you got for this week?

Ashley (14m 20s):
And then just the other night, Drew appeared at a 10 year anniversary for Garnier’s Micellar makeup remover that they have that she’s been praising for years and years and years. Way before she was officially like associated with them. Yeah. It looked like maybe they did some kind of a panel. It looked like they were filming like a bunch of segments. I don’t think it was for her show, but it was at the CBS Broadcast Center.
It’s a little confusing. I’m not sure what it was. Okay. She also did the makeup removal of a drag queen called Blue Hydrangea. So it just looked really fun. She looked beautiful and hopefully we know more soon, hopefully we get to see like footage of this. Yeah.

Anne (14m 59s):
And she did look really cute.

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Anne (16m 25s):
Every we ready to get into this weekly topic?

Ashley (16m 27s):
Yeah, let’s do it Magazine time. We haven’t done this in a while ’cause we also love a periodical or two. Yes.

Anne (16m 33s):
Yes we do. Or two or many, many more. Okay. So we are going to do two magazines today. Woohoo.

Ashley (16m 41s):
First time ever.

Anne (16m 43s):
Yes. We’re going to do two magazines that are from both from 2005, both from United Kingdom, both large format, both have different photographer duos or the same one?

Ashley (16m 55s):
Different photographer duos. Both were taken by duos of photographers, random. This is so cool. Yeah.

Anne (17m 1s):
Both are like, is it all full pages in each issue? So cool. When we, when we say full pages, we mean the photograph takes up the whole page, which is like, and

Ashley (17m 11s):
This is big. These are big magazines. Yes.

Anne (17m 14s):
And they both have really unique and rad makeup looks done by Gucci Westman.

Ashley (17m 20s):
Aha. So Gucci is a longtime friend of Drew’s. They’ve worked together a lot and we were lucky enough to get

a couple quotes from her to include in this episode that she provided to us exclusively. So cool.

Anne (17m 34s):
Yay. So cool. Gucci told us, “every time I worked with Drew, she was always game to go for it. It was always so fun to work with her. ”

Ashley (17m 44s):
Yeah. Sounds

Anne (17m 44s):
Just like what a lot of people say about her.

Ashley (17m 46s):
That’s so true.

Anne (17m 48s):
I love that. And we also wanted to make sure we plugged Gucci’s Beauty line, Westman Atelier and make sure you check her out on Instagram @GucciWestman. That’s how we got ahold of her. So thank you.

Ashley (17m 60s):
Thank you. And we’ll have a couple more quotes from her as we go along. More specific to each shoot.

Anne (18m 5s):
Yes, we will. So cool.

Ashley (18m 7s):
Yeah. So let’s start with AnOther Magazine, which is the spring summer 2005 issue. The interview was done by Alex Brown and the photography is by the duo Inez Van Lamsweerde

Anne (18m 22s):
And Vinoodh Matadin. They’re both very unique names.

Ashley (18m 26s):
Yeah. Sorry. I’m sure we butchered them.

Anne (18m 29s):
I had to just step in here and help you out a little bit.

Ashley (18m 32s):

I think sometimes they just go by Inez and Vinoodh.

Anne (18m 36s):
The Hair was done by Kevin Ryan who also worked with Drew on the Vs magazine from 2009 with Ellen Von Unwerth for the Whip It kind of themed shoot.

Ashley (18m 46s):
Which is one of my faves. Yes.

Anne (18m 50s):
The makeup Gucci Westman, as mentioned. Styling was done by Alistair Mackey. Ooh. And I love the little tidbit you pulled here. So the nails were done by Deborah Lippman, who also worked with Drew on Mirabella in 1995.

Ashley (19m 3s):
Yeah. And I think something else that we don’t have at our records, because I noticed I was following her on Instagram already under our account. Oh weird. And so maybe something more recent that she did with her. So that’s really fun.

Anne (19m 15s):
I like how she’s Lippman, but she does nails.

Ashley (19m 20s):
Should be nail woman. Good one. Okay. So Gucci’s exclusive quote to us about this shoot was, “I was inspired by the Charlie’s Angels era with the metallic eye. A lot of blush, top lip, gloss, color, more polished, done and lush.” Love that.

Anne (19m 40s):
Absolutely.

Ashley (19m 41s):
And it really does have that kind of like metallic, glossy vibe to it. The makeup in a lot of these shots.

Anne (19m 47s):
Yeah, it does. Do we wanna get into them a little bit and kind of try to describe these beautiful, beautiful pictures?

Ashley (19m 54s):
Yeah. So both of these have quite a bit. I don’t know that we could sit here and go beat by beat on every

single one of them.

Anne (20m 2s):
Yeah. I guess let’s describe the cover a little bit. So that description, that kind of like metallic eye blush, you know, taupe lips, lip gloss, that’s like, I feel like she’s pretty much describing the cover there.

Ashley (20m 16s):
Yeah. And maybe like the last photo too.

Anne (20m 18s):
Yep. And then there is, okay. My favorite one, even though there are those other ones,

Ashley (20m 22s):
I know what it is.

Anne (20m 25s):
There’s one photo of the back of Drew’s head.

Ashley (20m 28s):
Yeah. Why is it so beautiful and special? That picture? I love it too.

Anne (20m 32s):
I don’t know. And I think I’ve told you that I have a friend who’s an artist, Michelle Blade and she at one point had a painting that she did of this picture in an exhibit.

Ashley (20m 45s):
Oh yeah.

Anne (20m 45s):
And I’ve since asked her like, do you still have that? Like I would would totally love to have it. And she can’t find it.

Ashley (20m 50s):
Oh no.

Anne (20m 50s):
But it was so neat to be like, oh I know that picture. And she was just like, oh yeah, I just loved it. I just pulled it out of a magazine and painted it. I was like, that’s so cool.

Ashley (20m 57s):
That’s such a cool coincidence.

Anne (20m 59s):
Yeah, I know. And those three in the white dress, there’s something so cool about them.

Ashley (21m 3s):
I know. It’s like very vintage-y looking like old vintagey.

Anne (21m 8s):
Yeah. Like almost like turn of the century. Yes. In a weird way. Or like Victorian.

Ashley (21m 13s):
Yep. Yep. And like love that. She’s just like screaming at the sky. Amazing.

Anne (21m 18s):
Yeah, they’re so good. The pictures in this have like a different feeling from picture to picture in a really cool way.

Ashley (21m 23s):
Yeah, I would agree with that. We have finally gotten our scans of fees up on our websites somehow. We lost all of our 2005 magazine files.

Anne (21m 33s):
Ugh.

Ashley (21m 33s):
Just that year. Don’t know why. Don’t know where they went. I’m talking about our digital versions.

Anne (21m 38s):
Yep.

Ashley (21m 38s):
And these are like we said, very oversized and difficult to scan. But yes, we finally got around to it. So you can go on either the episode page or on thedrewseum.com/2005mags and see all of these beautiful photos.

Anne (21m 54s):
Yes. And I would highly recommend it. They’re gorgeous.

Ashley (21m 58s):
Yes. So interestingly enough, the cover image and then one of the inside photos were used in a Lancome campaign that was actually tied in with Gucci, that Drew starred in. And this was in the second set of ads that were released in fall 2005. So they recycled those photos.

Anne (22m 16s):
Yes they did. And I, I’m sure I remembered that at the time. But looking at the again, they’ve changed them up just enough. Yeah. That they’re unrecognizable.

Ashley (22m 25s):
Like you wouldn’t know unless you knew.

Anne (22m 28s):
Yeah. I never, I don’t think I’ve seen these beautiful outtakes.

Ashley (22m 31s):
Oh my gosh. They’re stunning.

Anne (22m 34s):
They’re so stunning. Are they like any of the other ones that were printed maybe like that one that’s her face closeup across two pages.

Ashley (22m 42s):
Yeah. The very last picture. She’s in the same striped top.

Anne (22m 46s):
Okay, got it. Those are the only outtakes we have?

Ashley (22m 50s):
Yep. Sadly only two. But again, we will share those on the episode page. They’re gorgeous. You have to check ’em out.

Anne (22m 56s):
Yes they are.

Ashley (22m 57s):
She looks a lot blonder in those than the other ones.

Anne (23m 0s):

Yeah, she does weirdly. Huh. I’m gonna jump in and summarize the article for us a little bit.

Ashley (23m 7s):
Let’s do

Anne (23m 7s):
It. So even though it was a bit short, it’s pretty cool. So in the article by Alex Brown, it first mentions her age, which I realize like I feel like so many magazines like start by talking about her age.

Ashley (23m 21s):
Yeah.

Anne (23m 21s):
It’s kind of a weird thing

Ashley (23m 22s):
Probably ’cause her age is always sort of off. Like it always feels confusing. Like she either feels too old or too young for that age.

Anne (23m 29s):
That’s a good point. Yeah. Usually they’re saying like, here are the achievements, can you believe it?

Ashley (23m 34s):
Yes.

Anne (23m 34s):
So she was 30 years old at the time, which oddly enough in retrospect, like it feels young. Of course.

Ashley (23m 40s):
Very

Anne (23m 40s):
At the time the Confederacy of Dunces was still in the works.

Ashley (23m 44s):
Yeah. I thought that was fun. I, I forgot about that. Wasn’t Will Ferrell gonna be in that with her?

Anne (23m 50s):
I don’t really remember many details about it.

Ashley (23m 53s):
That’s what I remember.

Anne (23m 53s):
I just remember it was floating around forever. And then it goes on for a while about quantum physics, which I found kind of funny. Drew says she has her pom-poms on right now about quantum physics.

Ashley (24m 5s):
That’s a good Drewism.

Anne (24m 6s):
Yeah, I know. It’s cute. She says her boyfriend who they don’t name. But at the time it was Fab and his father are well-versed in quantum physics, which got her interested in it. She saw the movie What the Bleep Do We Know and loved it. And I liked this quote she said about it, there was a lot of like kind of fun conversation around this. But she said there’s something very empowering about the idea that you are the conductor of your own destiny.

Ashley (24m 31s):
Oh, that’s so true. Huh.

Anne (24m 32s):
Yeah. And I also was like, yes, I feel like that’s like a theme of my life right now. Oh

Ashley (24m 37s):
That’s awesome. Can I just jump in? Yeah. Are you familiar with that crazy sex cult Nxivm that had like a bunch of people?

Anne (24m 44s):
A little bit. Okay. What what about it?

Ashley (24m 47s):
The director of what the Bleep Do We Know was really involved with it and one of the ones who like turned and got a bunch of people out and like took it down.

Anne (24m 57s): Whoa.

Ashley (24m 58s):

There’s a really interesting documentary on HBO called The Vow about it. And that’s why I know.

Anne (25m 4s):
Oh, interesting.

Ashley (25m 6s):
Anyway,I just had to mention that.

Anne (25m 7s):
Just a little side note. In the article they also talk about Best Place to Start though they don’t name it. They just say when you were working on your documentary and if you don’t know it’s her documentary when she’s kind of like learning about politics and voting. ’cause she’d always felt like she felt stupid whenever that conversation came up. This is kind of an interesting thing ’cause she’s like, she wanted to talk about politics in a way that people could understand since she was also learning. So she kind of wanted to be honest about that. She, she was kind of comparing how she did that to like What the Bleep Do We Know what they did for quantum physics she wanted to do for voting, which I thought was cool.

Ashley (25m 44s):
That’s cool.

Anne (25m 44s):
And then she said, I understand politics much more now even if it feels like knives in my organs. Which I felt like was a Drewism.

Ashley (25m 52s):
That’s a really good Drewism. Yeah, that’s a really good one. Yep. And

Anne (25m 57s):
Then she talks about how she had a hard time being taken seriously when they were making it. Yeah. The writer talks about that Angel get off the bus article.

Ashley (26m 5s):
Yeah, that’s exactly what I was thinking of. Yep.

Anne (26m 6s):
Which they show in the documentary I believe.

Ashley (26m 9s): Yeah.

Anne (26m 10s):
And then she says she used the criticism as a strength, which I also was like that’s so Drew.

Ashley (26m 15s):
Of course she did. Yeah. Yeah.

Anne (26m 17s):
Then they talk about Flower Films briefly and she said we didn’t know shit about producing but that she and Nan were dedicated to learning and instead of partying out in Hollywood, they were like putting their head in the books, which I thought was cool. She’s said she’s reading Dostoevsky’s The Idiot, which I’ve never read, but she kind of says that she relates to some of the book, which I was like, I don’t, I don’t know it enough.

Ashley (26m 39s):
Yeah, we’ll have to look up the plot just for funsies.

Anne (26m 42s):
Yeah. In this part she’s talking about being an animist, which I had just watched some old Rosie and she also had talked about being an animist.

Ashley (26m 49s):
I was gonna say the only time I’ve really ever heard that term was in like yes, 98, 99. I think it was even a question in that newsletter that we were both part of that like a trivia question.

Anne (27m 2s):
How funny. But she says because she’s an animist, she kind of describes this is how she, like how it manifests in her life. She said, I’m the girl who thinks the elevator is waiting for me. I feel guilty when I eat a carrot or when I pick a flower. I have that weird silly sort of brain that just thinks about all that shit and appreciates the beauty of the supermarket aisle. I love trying to find the beauty and reason and give credit to everything around me.

Ashley (27m 28s): So lovely.

Anne (27m 29s): It’s so beautiful.

Ashley (27m 31s): Yeah.

Anne (27m 31s):
So Alexi asks Drew, have you always been this optimistic? And she said always, it’s the only way I know how to survive and it doesn’t mean that I don’t succumb to self-loathing get morbid or cynical or bad tempered. There are moments but they’re fleeting. They are like buttons on a gigantic jacket. The jacket is optimistic. Anyone who says they’re happy all the time, it’s just fucking horseshit. But anyone who says they’re dark all the time, it’s like, come on, you tell me you never feel joy or the ping of love in your stomach. Don’t pull that dark prince shit with me. We are such multilayered creatures. We are thinking, feeling creatures and there’s no denying the complexities of it.

Ashley (28m 11s):
She still says the Dark Prince thing all the time. I love that. That’s such a constant.

Anne (28m 20s):
So then this last part, Alexi asks if being nice is Drew’s secret weapon. And she said she tries not to worry too much about what other people think but explains I’m not easy on myself. I fucking beat the living shit out of myself.

Ashley (28m 34s):
Oh really, Drew? No,

Anne (28m 35s):
I don’t think anyone could actually criticize me as much as I do myself. It’s never good enough. There’s always something more I could do something better, smarter, more hardworking, more disciplined. Can you imagine like being Drew and feeling that way?

Ashley (28m 48s):
I know.

Anne (28m 49s):
Anyway, so she said I do that enough to myself, but that also doesn’t mean that I don’t care about other people and how much I want to please. I’m a total people pleaser. I’m, it’s not so much about the approval I seek, but the act of doing. I love fucking people pleasing. I live for it. This whole thing. I’m just like, yep, I understand this. Like,

Ashley (29m 8s):
Yeah, I was gonna say this reminds me of you a little bit.

Anne (29m 12s):

Yeah. But there we go. That’s basically the end of that little article. But it had a lot of fun little gems in there.

Ashley (29m 19s):
Yeah.

Anne (29m 19s):
So I didn’t get to read this part, but can you tell me about the short stories that were mentioned here?

Ashley (29m 24s):
Yeah, It’s kind of weird. So in addition to this article, they had two fictional short stories written about Drew. The first one is by Nick Hornby who wrote the novel Fever Pitch that the movies were based on. Yep. But it tells the story of a fictional adult Drew who didn’t get the part in E.T. And she’s like this like sad, like kind of broken down angry woman. Interesting. Yeah. Then the other one is by a Jonathan Letham. Not familiar with him, but he tells a bunch of really short stories and each one involves Drew and various other known people and each one involves Drew and chocolate in some form.

Anne (30m 7s):
Weird.

Ashley (30m 7s):
So yeah, I don’t think I bothered transcribing them because it just doesn’t really quite feel necessary. But we had to mention that they’re there.

Anne (30m 16s):
Yeah, that’s kind of fun.

Ashley (30m 28s):
So then we have our second magazine, which is Pop and this one is fall and winter 2005. So I love that these like encompass the seasons as well. Such a funny coincidence

Anne (30m 38s):
.Yeah. The whole year because yeah, spring, summer, fall, winter. I love it. I too, it’s like were they in cahoots? Like come on.

Ashley (30m 46s):
It seems like it in a way, doesn’t it? Yeah. So the interview and the fashion direction were done by Katie Grand and our photography duo for this one are Mert Alas and Marcus Pickett, also known as Mert and Marcus, who also did the wonderful Missoni shoot from 2006.

Anne (31m 5s):
Ooh. Very cool. Hair was done by Guido and the makeup was by once again Gucci Westman about this makeup. She said, “I wanted her to look like Elvis because her hair was so dark and it was in black and white. She had a very similar facial structure to Elvis. So I was feeling that.”

Ashley (31m 25s):
So cool.

Anne (31m 25s):
I know. And you know what I love about us going over this right now is there’s that Sofia Coppola Priscilla movie right now.

Ashley (31m 32s):
I know, Elvis is very in the ether.

Anne (31m 34s):
Yeah, that’s kind of cool. But again, thank you Gucci for giving us that little quote.

Ashley (31m 38s):
I know. And I honestly, I don’t know that I ever would’ve thought of that on my own, but once she said it, there are definitely some photos here that I see exactly what she’s talking about.

Anne (31m 48s):
Yes. And let’s get into the photos a little bit.

Ashley (31m 51s):
Oh my god, there’s a lot.

Anne (31m 53s):
Oh my God is right.

Ashley (31m 55s):
So we have 11, if you include the cover, all full page, like we said, they’re all in black and white. As Gucci said, a lot of ’em have like sort of a wet look, wet hair, dark heavy makeup. We have some wigs and lingerie going on, cigarettes. Mickey Mouse ears.

Anne (32m 14s): Yeah.

Ashley (32m 14s):
What else am I missing?

Anne (32m 16s):
Yeah, I know it’s a, there’s a lot going on. Two of them have this like sort of androgynous thing going on, which refers back in my mind to that. Is it 1991 interview?

Ashley (32m 28s):
Oh. Yeah.

Anne (32m 28s):
That has like that sort of androgynous shot of young Drew. But yeah, these are rad. They’re all rad in their own way. The ones in the like kind of bouffant sort of type wig that kind of feels like, what’s the Ellen Von Unwerth with the blonde wig?

Ashley (32m 46s):
Oh, German Vogue.

Anne (32m 48s):
German Vogue. Yeah. So it’s kind of like a similar wig to that except it’s darker, but yeah. And the cover is fantastic. That’s where the eye makeup is the darkest, is that cover?

Ashley (32m 59s):
Yeah.

Anne (32m 59s):
Oh it’s so good.

Ashley (33m 1s):
Beautiful.

Anne (33m 2s):
That glossiness. She almost looks like she’s like a bronze statue or something.

Ashley (33m 5s): Ooh, Yeah.

Anne (33m 6s): On the cover.

Ashley (33m 6s):
I totally see that. Oh, okay. Again, go check these photos out you guys. So some of the outtakes were printed in Visionaire. Their number 52 issue in 2007. It’s kind of hard to explain what Visionaire is. It’s an experimental agency that’s been collaborating with artists, influencers and Fortune 500 companies for over 25 years. And they produce these like public art installations film every year. They have an issue, quote unquote. My husband side note has collected some of them over the years.

Anne (33m 40s):
Oh cool.

Ashley (33m 40s):
He has a handful of them. And that’s where I have that 2009 selfie of Drew where she took it in the mirror has Oh yes, that John Baldessari like added his art to.

Anne (33m 50s):
Yes.

Ashley (33m 51s):
That’s from a Visionaire. So unfortunately he doesn’t have this one.

Anne (33m 56s):
Sadly.

Ashley (33m 57s):
I think this one was really expensive ’cause it’s like gold plated Louis Vuitton for the case.

Anne (34m 1s):
Oh my God.

Ashley (34m 2s):
I know. But it has two, at least two really beautiful outtakes from this. I mean beyond stunning.

Anne (34m 10s):
Oh My God. We need it. We need it for the Drewseum. Whoever has it out there, send it on over.

Ashley (34m 17s):
You know, it’s either this or the little heart necklace. We’ll probably have to spend about the same money on both.

Anne (34m 23s):
I think I’d rather have the book

Ashley (34m 27s):
And we’ve been lucky enough, there are a couple other outtakes. I don’t know where these came from, but she’s got like a leather mask in some of these, little bondage-y looking.

Anne (34m 37s):
Yeah. These are so gorgeous. I should check out other work by these photographers.

Ashley (34m 41s):
Yeah.

Anne (34m 41s):
They have such a cool vibe to them. I just realized one other one reminds me of one more shoot. Sorry I have to go back. Okay. Blonde curly hair reminds me of the Kevin Aucion makeup.

Ashley (34m 54s):
Oh, for making faces? Yeah.

Anne (34m 57s):
Like the angle even. But of course Drew has like a black wig in that. Or maybe it’s her actual hair.

Ashley (35m 2s):
Yeah. I don’t know.

Anne (35m 3s):
I almost feel like I need to make three side by sides.

Ashley (35m 6s):
You do that.

Anne (35m 9s):
Okay. Here’s what Anne couldn’t stop blabbering about when the image was only in her head if only she knew. Okay. So now let’s get into the article. So give us your little summary of the article from Pop.

Ashley (35m 23s):
Okay. So again, in another similarity, this is also a very short article, that’s part of the reason why we decided

to put these together. But it’s a good one and I’m gonna just summarize it on the fly. So stay with me if I sound like I’m not prepared. Like we said, the article’s done by Katie Graham. So Katie says, Hey Drew, what’s going on? Like what are you doing in LA? And Drew said that’s the first week she’d had off in quite a few years. So she was just doing things that she’d been like wanting to do, like cleaning out her closet.

Anne (35m 54s):
And I was like, oh, I wish I could have been the fly on the wall for cleaning out the closet.

Ashley (35m 59s):
Oh, I wish I could have been the like trash man standing there. Like we’ll take whatever you don’t want. But yeah, she says that she’s like a workaholic as we know. And that she had made a promise to herself to take time off. She just finished Lucky You. And she was really tired and it was very challenging because of having to sing, which is a big fear of hers. And she does say on one job I was supposed to sing and they told me I was the worst singer they’d ever heard. Which of course must be

Anne (36m 28s):
Everyone Says I love You.

Ashley (36m 29s):
Must be. Yeah.

Anne (36m 31s):
So

Ashley (36m 31s):
She’s like, I had to face with my fears and she trained for five months on weekends and after work to get this going

Anne (36m 38s):
For some reason that description, five months on weekends and after work, I just imagine like somebody who’s got like a full-time job and they’re like, all right, I’m doing my extra training like on the weekends and after my full-time job,

Ashley (36m 49s):
Kind of how we do this podcast.

Anne (36m 53s):
True. We’ve been training for a year and and some change on weekends and after work

Ashley (36m 59s):
Or during work sometimes. Oops.

Anne (37m 1s):
Yeah.

Ashley (37m 2s):
Okay. So this magazine actually does reference her boyfriend by name Fabrizio Moretti and they ask, you know, because he’s a drummer of The Strokes, did he play drums along with her while she was singing?

Anne (37m 12s):
Yeah.

Ashley (37m 12s):
And she said, you know, he helped me a lot. He helped me figure out what notes I could sing for each word so that I could approach each session with my voice coach with a new intelligence. So that was cool.

Anne (37m 21s):
Yeah, I like that

Ashley (37m 23s):
The author asked if she sang along to Strokes songs. She said no, that she just stuck to country music. ’cause that’s why her character in the film sings. And then she said she also listened to a lot of Marilyn Monroe because she loved her singing voice being like beautiful and charismatic and sensual. And it really made her appreciate what an art singing is. And then she compared it to when she was training for Charlie’s Angels and she went to see Cirque de Soleil. It was like the same feeling like watching all of their strength and stamina made her realize their beauty and power. And she’d always run away from the physical because she was much more about the emotional.

Anne (37m 59s):
Yeah. And I put a little heart by that. Yeah,

Ashley (38m 1s): You like that one.

Anne (38m 4s): I understand.

Ashley (38m 5s):

Yeah. You know, I’ve probably always been that way up until a few years ago when I really started getting into yoga and working out. Yeah. And it was suddenly like, whoa, this is weird. This has so like not been part of my life and now I love it.

Anne (38m 16s):
Yep.

Ashley (38m 16s):
So I get it.

Anne (38m 18s):
Yep.

Ashley (38m 18s):
Then this is a theme that’s come up so many times when we do these articles, they talk about her feeling unattractive or out of place and if that was maybe like something that she took into Never Been Kissed, which is you know, very astute and correct. Yeah. And Drew said, whatever world you’re in, you can feel really vulnerable, especially if you’re out of place. Awkward, uncomfortable in your skin, exposed in any way saying what’s wrong with me. Which she definitely still says

Anne (38m 48s):
Yes.

Ashley (38m 48s):
And then this is just a really sad but lovely quote. You’re vaguely aware that people have this idea of something that’s correct and beautiful and pristine and graceful, but you’re something other. I was like, oh Drew hard to hear those things in a different way. Yep. The author asks if it was especially difficult as a kid because like it’s hard enough just be a regular kid, let alone, you know, making E.T. Et cetera. Yeah. And Drew said, as her therapist says, shit slides downstream. When you’re a kid, you just feel like shit facing this weird little battlefield you have to walk through in order to just earn your space. But that’s cool because we all have to go through it.

Ashley (39m 29s):
She’s asked if she has any regrets about that time in her life and she says no. Like it’s hard not to have regrets because you wanna be like this unscarred beautiful, pristine, virginal perfect being that has no emotional scars.

Anne (39m 41s):
Ugh. I love this whole thing.

Ashley (39m 43s):
I know. But then she says, your baggage is what makes you who you are. You have to embrace it otherwise you end up kicking and screaming about something you can’t change. And that’s making me laugh because we just referenced her dad being like, kick the bag. And she’s like, you can’t dad. And they’re talking about, you know, she’s done all these things in her life. She’s only just turned 30, just like you mentioned in the other article. Yep. And it like, is that amazing? And she says it is, but she’s always hard on herself. Of course she feels it’s not enough. She wants to do more. There’s very similar themes going on here. Yep. But this is cool. She said for the first time in her life she’s taking time off. She can look around and see what direction she wants to go in.

Ashley (40m 25s):
And then she says she has a little post-it on her window that says Stop and smell the roses because she’s not very good at doing that. And that made me think of her meditation closet with all the post-its on it that she currently has.

Anne (40m 37s):
Okay. It’s so funny ’cause I, I was thinking about Drew’s handwriting and how I can like, because I, we know it so well I can imagine it the writing saying Stop and smell the roses in her handwriting. Yeah. And I wasn’t even like picturing that amazing closet, which is the my computer’s desktop

Ashley (40m 54s):
That you look at

Anne (40m 56s):
Genuinely. Yes. She’s not just like saying that. I’m sure she really did have a post-it that says Stop and smell the roses.

Ashley (41m 2s):
Oh a hundred percent.

Anne (41m 5s):
So great.

Ashley (41m 6s):
Then she’s asked if she’s going on holiday and she says that her friend’s going to Greece, but she’ll probably end up on the deck drinking white wine and reading. And then she says she loves to explore so she’ll go off and just like do something by herself alone, which is so cool. And then of course she’s asked like if that independence is something that she learned as she got older or what she said that when she was growing

up, kids that had a strong family unit seemed to be more independent because they knew they could like leave the nest and then come back and it would still be there. But she always felt scattered. So she was intimidating about going places on her own. And of course she had her own apartment when she was 14, has been living on her own ever since.

Ashley (41m 46s):
But it wasn’t until her twenties that she would travel by herself because that’s sort of like when she decided if she wanted to do something she was just gonna go do it instead of waiting for someone else, which feels very like Ever After.

Anne (41m 58s):
Yep.

Ashley (41m 59s):
And then she said she loves eating alone and going to the movies by herself too. And I feel like she still talks about eating alone a lot. Like it’s something she really likes to do.

Anne (42m 7s):
Yeah.

Ashley (42m 7s):
I kind of like it too. Especially if I have something to read. I’m not, I have no problem with it.

Anne (42m 12s):
Yeah.

Ashley (42m 13s):
She’s asked if she remembers the first film she saw on her own and she says, not the movie itself, but she remembers the experience. She was in New York, she was about 11. She walked to the theater, sat down and had a cigarette while she watched it.

Anne (42m 28s):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s right. You heard that right? She had a cigarette in the theater

Ashley (42m 34s):
Like I know indoors.

Anne (42m 35s):
Right. It was okay then somehow

Ashley (42m 38s):
And the interviewer says, oh you were so wild. And Drew says, I know. And I loved it.

Anne (42m 43s):
And

Ashley (42m 43s):
Then she’s like, I think every kid wanted to be you growing up. And Drew said, that’s funny because I was a prime example of what not to be.

Anne (42m 50s):
Yeah. I thought that was great.

Ashley (42m 52s):
But the interviewer said, when you’re young you feel like you only have a few years to be wild. And Drew said, yeah, but it led her to have a solid work ethic because you know, and she said this a lot, even though that there was this time where people thought she wasn’t professional, that like really bothered her because no matter what was going on in her personal life, it didn’t affect her work. Like she still always was there and dependable for work. The interviewer kind of points out that a lot of people who have addictions or go to rehab, they have to like completely abstain afterward and be opposite of who they were. And Drew said she doesn’t like the all or nothing. She tries to find the happy medium. She loves working out and sweating and then having a beer. I like that she says, I love learning and laughing, exercising, then doing things you’re not supposed to.

Ashley (43m 38s):
I love going to rock shows and slamming a shot down and screaming at the top of my lungs. That is so much fun. Halloween is my favorite holiday because you get to be the freak that you really are and celebrate it. We should have more days like that. But then I also like the diligent business, the work ethic, turning up on time and being professional. Yeah,

Anne (43m 56s):
I love that whole thing. ’cause it was just like, yeah, the dichotomies of Drew Barrymore.

Ashley (44m 3s):
Yep. And then they point out like, Hey, the public perception of you changed at one point from this out of control girl to this a-list celebrity who has everything under control and how did that happen? And Drew says, oh, I know exactly how that happened. She realized she left her job, she appreciated it. She, she didn’t wanna see those things taken away from her. Nobody was like calling her for roles and she knew she had to

take on responsibility and make the films herself that were more challenging. She’s like, well what films were we talking about? And she’s like, Amy Fisher, Poison Ivy. She realized she wasn’t a little girl anymore and needed to do more mature roles. And then she realized how much she loved the whole process of this making movies, casting, writing, directing all of it.

Ashley (44m 45s):
And she wanted to be a part of it. And that of course she set up Flower Films,

Anne (44m 50s):
Ta-da.

Ashley (44m 51s):
Yeah. Her and Nancy hit the books and laid low, as you mentioned in your article.

Anne (44m 56s):
Yeah. I might have pulled hit the books from here.

Ashley (44m 58s):
Oh maybe. That’s so funny. But they have said that a lot. Yes. And like it felt like they were at college, they worked on screen, they met Adam Sandler and liked how he was doing his company. And then of course they got to do Never Been Kissed. And then Charlie’s Angels, right afterward, she said that was really intimidating. But we were like, we’re going to fucking do this and have fun with it. Absolutely. And then as we mentioned in our Donny Darko episode, which you can go back a couple episodes and listen to, after they did Charlie’s Angels and they had a blast and all that, they were like, okay, let’s go do something that’s small and not in the public eye.

Ashley (45m 39s):
Which is so fun that they had that range. I love that.

Anne (45m 42s):
Yep.

Ashley (45m 43s):
The interviewer says that she was probably more nervous about meeting Drew than most people ’cause she was such a hero of hers. And it was so cool when she turned up with her boyfriend and had, she says huge love bites, which I’m guessing are hickeys.

Anne (45m 56s):
That’s what I was thinking too.

Ashley (45m 58s):
And says it was the most rock and roll shoot I’ve done for years. And Drew says rock and roll? I feel like I’m just the biggest dork. I’ve got these big old boobs. I feel like I’m always about to fall over. I always say the wrong thing at the wrong time. Or I’m way too excited about things when everyone else is playing it. Cool. So it’s so funny to hear that I so do not see myself that way.

Anne (46m 21s):
Hahaha

Ashley (46m 21s):
That feels like a total constant. Like she definitely still talks about herself in that way as well. Yep,

Anne (46m 27s):
She does. And she, I think she genuinely feels it, you know?

Ashley (46m 31s):
Yeah, definitely. The interviewer says like, it was just such a great shoot, Fab was next door gambling, so who knows where they did this. They were all drinking pink champagne. And anyway, Drew said that Fab is the rock and roll one and she’s more like, I have to be professional. And he’ll go, fuck it babe, have some fun. But she said like he, when he was training her with singing, he worked really hard with her. He’s got like the balance of having fun and still being diligent.

Anne (46m 58s):
There we go.

Ashley (46m 59s):
And then this is cute. She’s asked, were you a fan of his? And she said, yeah, it’s sort of embarrassing. I was such a dumb ass when I met him. So she said she went up to him and was overly enthusiastic, like always. And it was just going on about loving the band and the music and how they’re so important. And inside her head she was saying, you blew it big time. Typical me, typical overdo it girl. So she walked away all embarrassed and watched him play and she’s just like, oh my God, even though that was so embarrassing, I gotta go find him. And she said something went right ’cause they’ve been together ever since and she loves him so much and had she not been brave enough to make a fool out of herself or take a risk, she wouldn’t have that in her life.

Ashley (47m 39s):
So fuck embarrassment.

Anne (47m 41s):
I love that.

Ashley (47m 42s):
I know. So good. And then she’s like, did he ask you out on a formal date? And Drew said, no, fuck that. I asked him out, I called him. Fearless Drew.

Anne (47m 52s):
I like this next thing.

Ashley (47m 53s):
She’s asked what her favorite color is and she said, the rainbow. Okay. That’s like so extremely lame, but I just love all colors.

Anne (48m 2s):
I feel like that answer feels like that’s what like a impersonator of Drew would say.

Ashley (48m 7s):
You’re so right. Like a parody of her would say that. Yeah, that’s very true. And she says Fab would have a field day teasing her about that. But it’s true. And she says she’s staring at a rainbow that she painted right then. And the lady says on your wall and she says, no, I painted it on my tape recorder actually. So there you go.

Anne (48m 29s):
But yeah, these are both fun articles. I love that it spans a year. It’s kind of an interesting little like drop into her life with Fab.

Ashley (48m 38s):
Yeah. And we have been, you know, really drawn to articles from mostly the nineties. So we, we sort of like told ourselves we needed to get out of that box and try something a little more recent. But of course this is not recent at all. 18 years,

Anne (48m 51s):
Only 19 years old.

Ashley (48m 56s):
But still we’re getting there. We’re we’re we’re coming forward in time.

Anne (48m 56s):

This is recent for us, but yeah. But also, yeah, I think it was like seeing these images. I think you were just reviewing 2005 again and you’re like, you know what, these are rad. Yeah. This is a really good thing to put together. And I’m glad we did.

Ashley (49m 12s):
Me too. And hopefully the rest of you are as well. If you did like that you guys know what to do, you could go leave us a review on Apple Podcasts that we’ll read back on the air. I actually haven’t checked in a while. I wonder if we have any new ones. Hmm. Ooh, maybe somebody should go do it before I even look. And then go follow us on Instagram @howdoyoudrewpod where we post pictures related to the episodes we do little reels with, you know, video components to go along with what we talk about. And you can also follow us @drewseum for other stuff. Like your opinions on rankings of Drew’s films.

Anne (49m 49s):
You can get really into all the little niche stuff that we get into over there. Also make sure to visit our website at How Do You Drew dot com, hosted on the OG the Drewseum. Make sure you follow us or subscribe as a patron on Patreon slash How Do You Drew. And also send us listener mail to How Do You Drew [email protected]. And my question to take us out today is, what’s your third favorite color?

Ashley (50m 18s):
So pink’s my favorite Gold is second. Yep. Probably,

Anne (50m 24s):
I don’t know why I do this to you.

Ashley (50m 28s):
A yellow.

Anne (50m 29s):
Hmm.

Ashley (50m 29s):
I don’t know, like pale. I like, like pastels, like pale, pretty much any pale color I’m kind of into.

Anne (50m 38s): Okay.

Ashley (50m 38s): That’s my vibe.

Anne (50m 39s):
So my first two blue and green are vying for my attention all the time now. Yeah. And I’m actually starting to like orange, oddly

Ashley (50m 48s):
Enough. Yeah. I have come around a little bit on, or in fact right now my nails are orange, which is so weird, but it has to be like a certain shade.

Anne (50m 56s):
Yeah. For me it’s like dark almost like, well not brick, ’cause brick burnt is red, like burnt orange. Yeah. Like I’m into that. It’s not just ’cause it’s fall, but I’m feeling burnt orange as my third favorite color right now.

Ashley (51m 10s):
Oh, well you’re getting your nails done tomorrow. So I’m excited to see what you end up doing.

Anne (51m 15s):
Yeah. And we’ll talk about why I am getting all fancy next week.

Ashley (51m 19s):
Ooh, that’s a good

Anne (51m 20s):
Tea. All everyone,

Ashley (51m 21s):
You definitely wanna come back.

Anne (51m 24s):
We’ll see you next Drewsday.

Ashley (51m 26s):
All right, sounds good. Thanks everybody.

Anne (51m 29s):
Thank you. Bye-Bye. This episode of the How Do You Drew podcast was researched and produced by Ashley and Anne from thedrewseum.com with help from our sponsor, Positive Medium.

Ashley (51m 51s):
Special thanks to Matt Costa for our lovely theme song, Roxy Prima, for our adorable logo. And last but not least, Drew, Barrymore and all the Drewbies who love her, we do this for you. Thank you.

Episode 003 – Rolling Stone, June 15, 1995

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