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Ashley (24s):
Okay. Hello and welcome to How Do You Drew.
Anne (27s):
This is A Drew Barrymore Podcast, brought to you by thedrewseum.com
Ashley (31s):
And sponsored by our friends at Positive Medium.
Anne (34s):
I’m Anne.
Ashley (34s):
And I’m Ashley.
Anne (36s):
And our guests.
Movies That Made Us Gay (39s):
My name’s Pete. And I’m Scott. And we are, we are the Movies That Made Us Gay. Woo-hoo.
Anne (45s):
Welcome. Welcome, welcome.
Ashley (48s):
We were trying to think of a mashup name I came up with. How did you get So Gay Drew?
Movies That Made Us Gay (53s):
Hey,
Anne (55s):
Well what was mine? Ashley?
Ashley (56s):
These are the Drew-vies that made us gay.
Movies That Made Us Gay (59s):
Oh, I like that. I like that.
Anne (1m 2s):
So that’s our contribution to this collaboration. And we’re out.
Ashley (1m 7s):
So I’ll just kind of preface by saying, listeners have heard me rave about your podcast for the last, I don’t know, like two months. I found it with your ever after episode. And as I began listening to you guys, I was like, they really know their stuff. What? I’m not sitting here yelling at the car. Like that’s wrong, like I do with other podcasts, like a nerd. And then I started going through your entire,
Movies That Made Us Gay (1m 32s):
That catalog. Yeah,
Ashley (1m 32s):
That catalog. Thank you. And realizing you’ve done like every movie that’s been important to me my whole life. Like the weird stuff from my childhood and the stuff I obsessed about as a teenager by myself with no one else. And I’ve had so many moments. This sounds weird and creepy, but I’ve had so many moments listening to you guys where I like psychically say exactly whatever reference you’re about to say. And I’ve just like, these are my people. So I had to, to stalk you, find you, tell you you had to be my friends and come on the podcast.
Anne (2m 2s):
Yeah,
Movies That Made Us Gay (2m 3s):
Absolutely. Thank you so much for having us on. We love doing kind of like collaborations like this. Yeah. And you know, like you said, we, we try to do as much research as we can. And even if it’s something that like, I’m not super into, I’m just like, well, if I’m gonna blob about it on a microphone for an hour and a half, I need to at least, you know, give it a watch. So yeah. I’m, I’m the same way. If I’m, if I’m listening to a podcast, I’m like, oh my God, people get it together with these facts. Yeah. Just open up your MDB trivia. It’s nothing.
Ashley (2m 35s):
And I also appreciate like that you always get dates correct. Like years. Correct. ’cause I have a weird, like, especially in the nineties, I know exactly when anything came out.
Movies That Made Us Gay (2m 44s):
Yeah, that’s one. That’s all I kind of, I always have the show notes that has stuff like release dates. Yeah. Years, that stuff was made. Kind of like production information. I find all that stuff fascinating.
Ashley (2m 57s):
Yeah, me too. We’re, I guess we’re all a bunch of nerds
Anne (3m 2s):
And I’m like an archivist by like trade. And so I’m like, yes, yes. Let’s talk about dates, let’s talk about records.
Movies That Made Us Gay (3m 10s):
Meanwhile, I have no head for that. Scott will be like, remember when we saw this movie at that one movie theater? I’m like, sure. I guess happen.
Anne (3m 18s):
But also like, I think Ashlyn and I are a mix of that. Yeah. Because I, as Ashley has like the dates and facts, like kind of memorized, but then suddenly I’ll come out with some like random vivid memory of something and it’s like, I don’t, I don’t know.
Ashley (3m 32s):
It’s helpful. We’re a good team, just like you guys.
Movies That Made Us Gay (3m 37s):
Same with us. I think we’re all four of us are, we’re, we work well with each other and that’s why our shows are so successful. Yes.
Ashley (3m 42s):
Totally. Actually, I wanna ask, I’m curious about how you guys have gotten your Patreon so thriving.
Movies That Made Us Gay (3m 49s):
First of all, I am like so proud to say that like everything that we’ve done is completely grassroots. It’s all just like networking and friends and just putting out, I mean, not to pat myself on the back, but putting, just putting out a good product, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And so I think doing things like this, you know, yeah. Collaborating with other podcasts, like-Minded shows, cross-promotion, stuff like that. It’s really kind of spread the word about us. And just kind of being as diligent as we can with socials and just putting ourselves out there. I mean, it could always be better, but knock on wood, it’s as good as it is now. And yeah, we just, we’d love all of our listeners.
Movies That Made Us Gay (4m 31s):
It’s so weird. You know, I, I hesitate and I hate you’re fans. I hate saying you’re fans. I, I hate it. It’s so weird. And you know, when we have guests on, especially when they come to our apartment and we’re like, okay, now we’re gonna do the intro. So look over there, because I, I have to be weird on the mic now. Yeah. All that stuff is so crazy because, you know, we’re just, we’re podcast listeners. We’re enthusiasts. And so we are just like, Hey, we can do it too. And I don’t know, I think just like I said, just trying your hardest to put out as good of a product that we’re proud of and yeah. I don’t know, I guess to pain off somehow.
Ashley (5m 10s):
So Cool.
Anne (5m 11s):
I feel like we identify with that, like that way of going about it. Yeah, a hundred percent. We had this sort of community built in, so we’re like, let’s lean on that community. Let’s put out a product that we would enjoy if we were listening, you know? Yeah. Like Ashley’s always like, I love our podcast,
Ashley (5m 27s):
But I’m like, I listen
Anne (5m 28s):
To this,
Ashley (5m 30s):
I do do a successful
Movies That Made Us Gay (5m 31s):
Show. No. Scott will be editing and he’ll say like, this episode’s really good. And I’m just like, of course it is.
Ashley (5m 38s):
Yeah. That sounds like a really good, I really like this episode. Every time it’s really good. I’m
Anne (5m 44s):
Like, yay. Good. I’m so glad. How do Drewbie Drewbie,
4 (5m 51s):
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Anne (6m 2s):
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Anne (6m 40s):
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4 (7m 2s):
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5 (7m 12s):
Drew. Barrymore is Amy Fisher. You ever been with an older guy? Unstoppable. Whatever Amy wants. Amy gets insatiable. I love him and I love the sex. I’m dangerous. I’ll do whatever it takes to get his wife out of the way. Don’t start what? You can’t finish. When I know what I want, I go for it. Let me see it. You are a psycho. Don’t say it though. This is getting outta control. The New York Times calls ABC’s the best of the three. Drew, Barrymore, The Amy, Fisher Story Sunday.
Anne (7m 42s):
So we are here to talk about The Amy, Fisher Story. Yeah.
Ashley (7m 49s):
Probably not one of the like top of the list. We gotta get to this movie, but
Movies That Made Us Gay (7m 54s):
We’ve referenced it on our show. Yeah.
Ashley (7m 56s):
That’s why I’m happy that you guys are bringing it to us in a way.
Movies That Made Us Gay (7m 59s):
Yeah. And before we get too into it, I just have to say on the call we have, we have a very special guest on the call. We have Drew here.
Ashley (8m 8s):
Oh my God.
Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 10s):
Well we have Dylan Saunders.
Ashley (8m 12s):
Yes. Did you know that she was just playing with that on the her show this week?
Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 16s):
Was she really?
Ashley (8m 17s):
It’s like the newest thing on their, the show’s. Instagram is her playing with that with Ariana Debos.
Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 23s):
I love,
Anne (8m 24s):
I’m so happy that this is, that Drew is here today. Yeah, her, her presence is definitely felt. It looks like Elle is stunned right now. She, Drew Barrymore has arrived.
Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 37s):
Kathy Griffin. Yeah.
Anne (8m 40s):
It’s really not, it’s really not a good,
Ashley (8m 43s):
It’s got a profile I feel like. And it’s got her butterfly tattoo. That’s most importantly of all.
Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 49s):
It’s got, it’s got the bear more jawline. Like the chin is definitely there.
Ashley (8m 54s):
The hair is wild.
Movies That Made Us Gay (8m 57s):
Insane. Yeah. These burrow curls are outta control. That’s all the character. Dylan Saunders has insane hair. But that is off topic.
Ashley (9m 7s):
I brought my Amy Fisher VHSI was like, I’ll have this behind me. And then I’m like, where am I gonna have this floating? No,
Anne (9m 14s):
I thought for a split second that they were going to pull out the, that
Ashley (9m 18s):
Would’ve been close enough. This is amazing.
Anne (9m 20s):
You know what I’m, I’m so happy that you have that.
Ashley (9m 23s):
I know.
Anne (9m 23s):
I just gotta say, this is making me so happy. Mine are like in storage still in the box. Yeah.
Ashley (9m 28s):
Ours are still in the boxes. Like for
Movies That Made Us Gay (9m 31s):
The first week of the pandemic, when everybody was like in their apartments finding stuff to do, I broke her out.
Anne (9m 39s):
Oh.
Movies That Made Us Gay (9m 40s):
Like I broke her out like week one of the pandemic.
Anne (9m 44s):
Please tell me you made like a movie or something with the doll. Just
Ashley (9m 48s):
Stop motion. Like the Rosie O’Donnell at Flower Films one.
Movies That Made Us Gay (9m 52s):
I feel we might, that one was wild. I feel like we might’ve done a couple of things that might be on the Patreon. I think there’s some like Christmas decoration videos. Yeah.
Ashley (10m 1s):
Oh, I started signing up for your Patreon the other day on my phone and I hit some sort of wall where I was like, I have to do this on a computer. And I’m so glad you reminded me. ’cause I need to do that.
Movies That Made Us Gay (10m 10s):
Well, lemme tell you this much listeners, the new Patreon app, they completely redesigned their social media. The new app is Carbon.
Ashley (10m 17s):
Okay.
Movies That Made Us Gay (10m 18s):
The new update’s kind of whack. Yeah. It’s weird. Anyway,
Anne (10m 20s):
Yeah, sometimes we talk shit about the platforms we used to. Yeah. Like
Ashley (10m 25s):
Being honest,
Anne (10m 26s):
You know, we’re just like make the technology better. Not worse.
Ashley (10m 31s):
Okay. So should we bring it back to Amy Fisher? For anyone who doesn’t know, this is obviously based on real events. I actually said something to my husband, I’m like, oh yeah, we’re doing The Amy, Fisher Story. He is like, what’s that? I’m like, you know Amy Fisher? And he is like, no. I was like, honey, you know Joey Butta Fuco? You know that name? He is like kind of, I’m like, oh my God.
Anne (10m 50s):
That’s what my boyfriend remembered was Joey. And I was like, Buttafuoco. Like, you
Ashley (10m 54s):
Can’t forget that one. But Pete, if I’m remembering right from what I had heard when you guys were talking about it, you like, remember this real time pretty well.
Movies That Made Us Gay (11m 1s):
Oh, I remember this Real, I think, I think I’m the senior member of this group. Okay. This did happen in 91, 92.
Ashley (11m 10s):
92. Yeah. Was when it like came out in the media.
Movies That Made Us Gay (11m 14s):
Yeah. So I’m in the eighth or ninth grade and I watched, the first one that aired was Amy Fisher My Story. Right. And so this is the one that’s Amy Fisher’s point of view. And in that one, they cast a really handsome guy as Joey. Right. Because it’s Amy’s story,
Anne (11m 36s):
Her perspective is that he was the dreamiest man alive. Yes.
Movies That Made Us Gay (11m 41s):
He was starring on the hit a b, c hour long drama sisters. Oh yeah. The, the girl who played Amy was not famous.
Ashley (11m 49s):
Noelle Parker. Right.
Movies That Made Us Gay (11m 51s):
Yes. So I saw that one first and that was the one that I was like, okay, this is the real deal because it came out first in my, and they must have 12-year-old brain. They must have fast tracked that.
Ashley (12m 1s):
Oh, all of them. They came out within a week of each other. I believe
Movies That Made Us Gay (12m 4s):
It was the very next week. It wasn’t like a year later. Yeah. So then the Alyssa and the Drew version, the Real Event night were on at the time on the same night. That
Anne (12m 15s):
Is crazy.
Movies That Made Us Gay (12m 17s):
So I’m watching the Alyssa version and flipping back and forth and all I’m getting is like newsrooms and courthouses and I’m like, I don’t wanna see this. But you were, you were invested with the Alyssa one.
Ashley (12m 30s):
Oh,
Movies That Made Us Gay (12m 30s):
More on the night. On the night. I feel like I watching Alyssa and then the reason I was kind of not into the Drew one because it was from this reporter’s point of view. So I got, whenever I would switch to it, it was always something weird. And I was like, I want Amy
Anne (12m 50s):
More Amy.
Movies That Made Us Gay (12m 52s):
It was just my luck of the draw of changing the channels. Had I started on Drew, I probably would’ve been sucked into that. And not really into that.
Ashley (12m 59s):
You just happened to come in at the bad scenes every time.
Anne (13m 3s):
But
Movies That Made Us Gay (13m 3s):
It’s like, it was always a,
Anne (13m 4s):
But that’s what makes the movie good as an adult now. It’s like, oh, okay. This movie’s actually like attempting to look at all these sides of it.
Ashley (13m 12s):
That’s true.
Movies That Made Us Gay (13m 13s):
They were also trying to do something interesting with storytelling. With storytelling. Yes. I mean, you have to kinda give Andy Tenet, this is kind of a schlocky made for TV movie, but for the most part it’s pretty well put together. Yeah. Like you can kind tell that, oh, he’s gonna go on to have a successful filmmaking career because this movie has, well-directed scenes of it, of kind of when they jump timelines, you get the point of view from the car, you get the point of view from Mary, but Fuko on the stairs. So it cuts together kind of interesting.
Anne (13m 46s):
It
Ashley (13m 46s):
Does, yeah. It’s got an interesting chronological way of like how they tell this story. And then we have to shout out Andy Tenet because of course he came back and directed ever after five years later, which is, I can’t believe it’s only five years.
Anne (13m 59s):
That seems crazy.
Ashley (14m 1s):
But like, it must have been like two decades between those two.
Anne (14m 5s):
No. And do, do we know Ashley if, like, did Drew have anything to do with bringing Andy TenneT on?
Ashley (14m 12s):
I believe so. Yeah. I’m pretty sure she did. Yeah. It’s just like, why would she think of,
Anne (14m 17s):
It’s like such
Ashley (14m 18s):
Weirdly different projects.
Movies That Made Us Gay (14m 22s):
Gosh. So we kind of fell down the rabbit hole of just the whole scandal and Oh yeah, we were watching, I watched it, I watched the entire a and e special.
Ashley (14m 35s):
I started that one actually on YouTube today.
Anne (14m 37s):
Do
Movies That Made Us Gay (14m 38s):
Like true crime stuff. Yeah. I watched the whole special on the Amy Fisher Joey Fuco drama. Okay. So, so my hot take just real quick, is that just like, even if Amy never shot Mary Jo.
Anne (14m 56s):
Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (14m 57s):
Like they’re all pretty terrible, right? Even Mary Jo,
Ashley (15m 0s):
There’s no good side.
Movies That Made Us Gay (15m 3s):
I feel like Mary Jo’s kind of a piece of work. Yeah. Like I, I know she’s, she’s definitely a victim. She did not deserve to be, you know, shot and put through all of that. And her body is, you know, I think the, I think the post Joey Bongo marriage Mary is maybe a little more reflective. I like all of those interviews when she would go on Oprah of like after she divorced him.
Ashley (15m 25s):
You gotta tell us about those. ’cause I’m not that versed in that part.
Anne (15m 30s):
I forgot how many elements of this there are that the mom is weird. That Mary Jo is weird. Like every character is weird. Yeah. So, so tell me more about the like Oprah Mary Jo stuff. ’cause I haven’t seen it.
Movies That Made Us Gay (15m 43s):
So, okay. So the order of the events goes Amy Fisher gets out of jail in 99. She writes her tell all book, like The Inevitable Tell All book that she ends up going on Oprah to promote probably around oh three, I think. And it’s kind of interesting, you can tell that Oprah’s sympathetic to Amy just kind of ’cause clearly like Joey Buttafuoco kind of like took advantage of this sport.
Ashley (16m 12s):
Absolutely. Yeah, definitely.
Movies That Made Us Gay (16m 14s):
So when Oprah starts talking to her about shooting Mary Jo, you can tell that there’s something about the story that Oprah’s not buying that I think that Amy says that she was kind of meaning to hit Mary with the gun and it went off. It
Anne (16m 28s):
Went off,
Ashley (16m 28s):
Right. Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (16m 30s):
But she pretty much said that she went over to kill her. Yeah. So Oprah’s kind of calling her out on which one was it? Inconsistencies of of that. You can tell that Oprah’s a little like impatient with this, with Amy. And then Mary is watching the show and she’s upset and she calls Oprah’s people and wants to go on
Ashley (16m 51s):
What like
Movies That Made Us Gay (16m 53s):
Yeah, like, I’m like, of course you wanna go on Oprah. Yeah, of course you wanna go on Oprah, but Mary wants, here’s my side of the story. Yeah, yeah. I don’t know how she got in touch with like Harpo studio, right. Mary Jo Butta Fuco. All right. Call us up. The name
Ashley (17m 7s):
Will will carry you through. Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (17m 10s):
Kind of the flippant way that Amy was talking about. I didn’t really mean to shoot her that a, that still to this day that Mary Buttafuoco doesn’t buy. Yeah,
Ashley (17m 20s):
I, I don’t know if I buy that either. Yeah. But I definitely think she was, you know, taken advantage of and treated mercilessly by the media, which I like that this version of the movie gets into that. Right.
Movies That Made Us Gay (17m 33s):
Before kind of my big introduction to all of this is that I was a small child when all of this happened. I remember passing references to Amy Fisher when I was a kid. I think that there’s a joke in Adam’s family Values about Amy Fisher. Oh wow. Talking about the psychos, like trading cards when they’re at summer camp. That’s right. One Fisher. So that’s kind of was my main reference for all of this. And then I remember reading the introduction to the screenplay of American Beauty by Alan Ball, and Alan Ball talks about, and his introduction of that, the Amy Fisher, Joey Buttafuoco drama was a big inspiration for writing the script for American Beauty.
Ashley (18m 17s):
Wow. But that’s interesting. That’s
Movies That Made Us Gay (18m 19s):
Sort of the idea is that clearly these are, this is a wild story that the public will ev will never really know the true truth of. And that he kind of wanted to write something kind of like that. And when you look at kind of the bare bones of a script, like American Beauty, you have like the Long Island low lead type I guess. So you have kind of this guy like crisis. Yeah. You get an attempted murder at the end of the movie. I mean, Lester dies at the end of American Beauty. And in the original cut of American Beauty, it would go between Ricky and Janie in jail. Like on trial for Lester’s murder. Like that was the original cut of America.
Movies That Made Us Gay (18m 59s):
Whoa. And then Sam Mendez just kind of rehauled it and post that. It just kind of became something a little different. And I take it that probably the events of something like American Beauty would explode. Like the events that Yeah. Yeah. That it would become like a big tabloid scandal of this man that ends up dead and there’s like an underage girl in his house and maybe done by his daughter’s boyfriend. But yeah, just kind of interesting. That was kind of my main introduction to all of the story. And then when I first started going out with Pete, I think that Pete would just have, I’ve just always been obsessed with it. He’s always just with it too.
Movies That Made Us Gay (19m 39s):
So the three movies, I mean Alyssa and Drew battling it out on the same night on two major networks, Drew actresses whose careers have always kind of Yes.
Ashley (19m 48s):
Yeah. Strange little parallels. The Poison, Ivys
Movies That Made Us Gay (19m 53s):
Child actor Drew did movies and Alyssa did TV and they both kind of had the Wild Girl phase in the early nineties. Yeah. So we found an Esquire article from 2016. Yeah. And it talks about casting Drew in this version. Oh, let’s
Ashley (20m 13s):
Hear.
Movies That Made Us Gay (20m 14s):
Calling it casting a still controversial, still jail bait, Drew Barrymore to play. Fisher is a move straight out of the John Waters playbook and she owns the role.
Ashley (20m 24s):
Love that. When I was younger, I didn’t necessarily look at this time in Drew’s career and be like, Ooh, she is really young and being really treated sexually in the media. But now that I’m older, I do. And so it’s kind of weird to be like, I’m feeling for Amy Fisher being 16, 17 taken advantage as 17-year-old Drew is doing these scenes with this older man. It’s kind of weird
Movies That Made Us Gay (20m 47s):
Body double. I hope that that was a body double because that sexy
Ashley (20m 50s):
Well, we have some info on that. I’ll just jump to that. What happened was she did the love scene. She was clothed. It’s like ten second song. Then they did a scene with the body double and then they released that on video calling it like the uncensored version that couldn’t be seen on tv. And Drew was really upset. I have her quote here. So she said, America thinking that I’m letting this man go down on me makes me wanna vomit. I wish these people would get hit over the head with the two by 4 55 times until they understand what they did was wrong.
Movies That Made Us Gay (21m 26s):
I’m like, okay. So what we saw did not air on A, B, C.
Ashley (21m 28s):
Correct. Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (21m 29s):
This is from the vhs, a VHS pull. Then
Ashley (21m 32s):
Those scenes, the ones, those shots,
Movies That Made Us Gay (21m 36s):
It makes a lot
Anne (21m 36s):
More sense. They were kind of gratuitous and I like almost forgot about them. And then I was like, that’s not Drew’s boob.
Ashley (21m 41s):
Yeah. And it wasn’t a, it wasn’t the wig either, I noticed right away. That’s not that shitty wig. Yeah.
Anne (21m 47s):
It was just to add some spice.
Ashley (21m 50s):
Yeah. And I can understand like, that’s not what she signed up for that that wasn’t what she agreed to film. Like Oy crazy. Yeah. And she’s 17.
Movies That Made Us Gay (21m 59s):
Yeah. She, I mean granted kind of, it’s, it’s topical and it’s a little bit not controversial, but I don’t know she understands that yes, this is The Amy Fisher Story. But she also knows that this is a made for television movie. This is running on primetime on a major network. So no, I don’t have to take my clothes off. And so Yeah. Yeah, I can imagine to see the, you know, the Unrated version on VHS and just like, what in the hell.
Ashley (22m 26s):
Yeah. Especially when they’re like advertising it as like, woo, come see Drew Barrymore. Like, you didn’t see her before.
Movies That Made Us Gay (22m 33s):
So, okay, so I forgot about the accent. Work in this mood finance in, now listen, she, you know, not for nothing. Sh Emmy nominated for Gray Gardens.
Ashley (22m 49s):
Yeah. Yes. Yes. She didn’t win that one, but nominated. Yes.
Movies That Made Us Gay (22m 53s):
Didn’t win that one. She got
Ashley (22m 54s):
The Golden Globe.
Movies That Made Us Gay (22m 55s):
Got got the Globe. And what Martha’s Vineyard is adjacent to Long Island. Right.
Ashley (23m 3s):
Anne, you’re the closest to the East Coast. Let us know.
Anne (23m 6s):
I don’t think that it’s good.
Movies That Made Us Gay (23m 10s):
I mean, I mean she’s going forth though. She’s making choices.
Ashley (23m 14s):
I remember Anne, if you remember Justine and Mel talking about this in one of the, I think it was Celebrity profile, her friends. And Justine just says that is a gnarly accent. I always remember that.
Anne (23m 28s):
I, I guess I can’t necessarily speak to its accuracy, but I feel like what I kept thinking is that it sounds like Drew is talking through her teeth.
Movies That Made Us Gay (23m 38s):
Sure. Yeah.
Ashley (23m 39s):
Okay. So we have a clip of her in 1993 on the very first episode of late Night with Conan and talking about her performance here,
6 (23m 50s):
You of the three Amy fishers. I think yours was by far the best.
7 (23m 54s):
Right. Thank you. No, it was very
6 (24m 1s):
Funny. It was cool. Now I gotta ask you, did you, A lot of actors, when they’re preparing for a role like that with a, a killer or a Murderer, they actually go and meet the person in prison. Did you do that? Because I know,
8 (24m 12s):
Well, let me tell you a little something about Amy. I didn’t get to meet her actually because she was, you know, going through all her court things and being arraigned at the time of the shooting. And it was very nerve wracking to be portraying somebody who was living in the media as we were shooting and Right. You know, trying to pull off the accent and do the whole thing and like, you know, understand everything and sort of come to terms with why she did the thing she did to have the sincerity to play her. But it was, I had to do it. I had to live out that humor I felt for this girl. Right. You
6 (24m 45s):
Know? So you, you didn’t meet with her, you didn’t talk to her, you just studied tapes
8 (24m 49s):
Or I just, I would listen to her voice over and over and over again.
Movies That Made Us Gay (24m 58s):
That was the first episode of Conan.
Ashley (24m 59s):
Very first one. Yes. Yep.
Movies That Made Us Gay (25m 1s):
Wild.
Ashley (25m 3s):
Isn’t that cool?
Movies That Made Us Gay (25m 5s):
I did not know that she was one of his first guests and, you know, putting yourself in Drew’s in Drew’s shoes and like in Drew’s position in the early nineties, it’s just like, what do you have to lose? Yeah.
Ashley (25m 15s):
Oh yeah. She,
Anne (25m 17s):
She wanted to shed this like little girl thing. She wanted to be like, I’m an adult
Movies That Made Us Gay (25m 22s):
Getting opera role. Like Amy Fisher. It’s just, I mean, especially at a time where I think that Drew was, I mean, I think that she was kind of lucky to be getting offers. Like I think that hair was really at a rock bottom and I mean, fuck yeah, I’m gonna do the Amy Fisher made for TV movie.
Ashley (25m 39s):
Yeah. She said she loved the character. Amy was the rarest one for me. Whereas Ivy and Poison Ivy, which I know you guys watched today, was something I created. Amy was an imitation. I was having to do scenes where the entire nation had seen her say these exact words. And then she also said like, it was just such a great challenge imitating a real person and it had to be just right. So that was another reason. She was like, I gotta do this. And it was just like, yeah, like you said, obvious. Like she’s, she has to do this.
Movies That Made Us Gay (26m 8s):
Yeah. Well, you know, we were, as we’re watching it, there’s this scene where there is that kind of surveillance video footage Yeah. About that when that guy sells her out.
Ashley (26m 20s):
Yes. That piece of shit.
Movies That Made Us Gay (26m 22s):
Yeah. And so that’s probably a tape that was on the news, probably verbatim. Probably not. I
Ashley (26m 29s):
Looked for it today actually. I wanted to see if it was that close, but I couldn’t find it. Oh,
Movies That Made Us Gay (26m 33s):
They probably knew that they couldn’t change the dialogue too much because it’s gonna be pretty closely examined. Yeah. Probably had to stick to whatever she said,
Anne (26m 42s):
Which is interesting.
Ashley (26m 44s):
And also like Drew has, so we’ll just kind of give you like a little more background as to what was going on. So she, this is when she was dating, you guys are gonna like this poll. Jamie Walters
Movies That Made Us Gay (26m 54s):
From The Heights
Ashley (26m 55s):
From The Heights and 9 0 2 1 oh Donna Martin’s abusive boyfriend. And they were engaged, of course she’s 17, but they’re engaged. And while they were in Vancouver filming this in late 1992, he broke up with her three days before she was supposed to come back by phone. And she begged him to wait. And when she got back he had moved out of their apartment and this was like a dark time for her anyway, playing Amy. And then this happened on top of that.
Movies That Made Us Gay (27m 22s):
Oh my gosh. Yeah,
Ashley (27m 24s):
She was really broken up by it.
Anne (27m 26s):
Yeah. We had a like a bunch of articles around this time that we were reading and she was just like, I’m so heartbroken, I’m so like, I can’t imagine like, wow. And she’s like, yeah, like 17.
Ashley (27m 36s):
Yeah. Like, it’s
Anne (27m 38s):
Crazy.
Movies That Made Us Gay (27m 39s):
That’s wild. That is. That’s absolutely wild.
Ashley (27m 42s):
We also have a clip of her on, I know you guys love the Rosie O’Donnell show, so we’ve been talking about this on the pod. Rosie’s slowly putting all the episodes on her YouTube. They’re
Movies That Made Us Gay (27m 53s):
All on our YouTube.
Ashley (27m 54s):
Oh my God. So I’ve been waiting for this one. This is from 1999 from April. And this was like my favorite one. I like watching it again now I knew the whole thing by heart because I used to watch Oh my God, on my tape.
Movies That Made Us Gay (28m 6s):
No, I think, I’m sure that I’ve seen this interview. I think I, I probably watched this live. You
Ashley (28m 11s):
Probably did. You might remember the Play-Doh desk. That was like the thing from this one that I always remember. But sh I, as I was watching it, I was like, wait, she’s about to talk about Amy Fisher. I remember this. And so I was like, perfect, we’re gonna throw this in here.
8 (28m 27s):
Yeah. When I was playing Amy Fisher, that was really hard. Yeah. I was in Vancouver, I was all alone. I was playing like, you know, a psycho slut. It was insane.
9 (28m 38s):
A murdering psycho slut. I know. Yeah. She’s getting outta jail, you know? Is she, Mary Jo supposedly forgives her right now. She’s getting outta jail.
8 (28m 45s):
Well that’s full circle. It
9 (28m 47s):
Sure is, isn’t it?
Ashley (28m 48s):
Yeah. That’s nice. Oh, that’s a whole, oh my God,
Anne (28m 51s):
She’s so cute.
Ashley (28m 52s):
Oh, I love that episode so much.
Movies That Made Us Gay (28m 54s):
Wow. Wow. She would’ve been doing Preston never been Kissed. If it was April of 99, then yeah.
Ashley (28m 58s):
Look at. Correct. See, this is why you have my heart Scott. That is like, me too. A I am that person all the time.
Movies That Made Us Gay (29m 8s):
I love that. I also love that Z is just like, oh sure. She’s getting outta jail first. I’ve heard of it. Yeah. Keeping up with Amy just finds out about it all on the show. Yep.
Ashley (29m 18s):
She’s like, gotta gotta move on with my life not holding onto that Amy Fisher stuff
Movies That Made Us Gay (29m 24s):
With Mary Fuko. Like Yeah, that’s real. Is that she kind of like, she made these statements that she forgives Amy that clearly she was like taken advantage of and I mean,
Ashley (29m 34s):
You guys seem to know more. Did Mary Jo like finally admit that the relationship had happened between Amy and Joey?
Movies That Made Us Gay (29m 41s):
I, I think she, yeah, I think she does because he was, he wanna go to jail suspended afterwards for statutory rape and got like seven months or something.
Ashley (29m 50s):
Oh my God.
Movies That Made Us Gay (29m 51s):
Yeah. But I think that the age of consent in New York was 17. Okay. So, and I think she was like months away from her 17th birthday. So it was a whole thing of just like, well, you know, how different was she in the like 50 days? My God. Before she was like a consenting adult and blah, blah, blah, all this like garbage nonsense. And he gets like seven months. Right. And I think it was for like one count or something. Yeah. But she stuck with him through all of that. And I think, I think in the end she was just like, yes, he did. You know, he did cheat on me, did have this affair, whatever. But I, you know what’s interesting about this version because of, you know, with the three and all that is that The Amy Fisher Story is like, he was handsome.
Movies That Made Us Gay (30m 40s):
He was charming. He lured me in and yes, he pushed me into this world of prostitution. Yeah. Right. The the Alyssa version is like, I don’t know her, it’s like the but Fuco endorsed one. Right. Right.
Ashley (30m 55s):
And it’s,
Movies That Made Us Gay (30m 57s):
I don’t know her, who is she though? She’s just, why are you so obsessed with me? She, she keeps showing up to the top Yeah. About this damn car. Yeah. But then, but then this one is just like, yes, she has a pager. Yes. She’s turning tricks. Maybe Joey’s aware of it, but not fully involved in that. Yeah.
Ashley (31m 15s):
They left that kind of vague. Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (31m 16s):
They left that very vague. And so, but they were fully explicit in that yes, he was seeing her, but kind of like not really su super into it. I guess like the her and the tricks thing seems like that was on her in this version. I think so. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He
Ashley (31m 31s):
Like mentions later that Joey got her into it, but they never show it. Right. Yeah. Right.
Movies That Made Us Gay (31m 36s):
IJI just love how everybody was so outraged that she had a pager. I
Ashley (31m 40s):
Know. That was one of my notes, the quote a beeper. Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (31m 45s):
I dunno if you watched the real world. It’s just like, why do you have a beeper? Do you still really
Ashley (31m 48s):
Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, I totally remember that. That was a big deal. I’m right in between you guys age-wise, so I get all the references.
Movies That Made Us Gay (31m 58s):
Yeah. That was real world season one. That was an old one, but I mean, I had a, I was in high school when people had pagers and Yeah, me too. Yeah. So that was to to to, you know, to me and to listeners already just, just like, why would you be so outraged by it? But I guess at that point in 91 or 92, it
Ashley (32m 17s):
Was too early for somebody that age to have a beeper. No one was beeping. I love you with the like numbers or boobs or
Movies That Made Us Gay (32m 28s):
Yeah, absolutely. A I found it very interesting that this was kind of the split down the middle of who’s kind of side, you know, more objective I guess. Yeah. And you get the tabloid journalist angle from the post,
Ashley (32m 57s):
Which I appreciated. That’s one of my notes is that I appreciate that she’s like kind of saying some of the things that maybe a lot of people weren’t saying back then about like, Hey, this is a teenage girl. Like, why are we,
Anne (33m 9s):
It’s kind of a feminist perspective from that journalist. Like it’s, it’s, it’s kind of cool for, I mean, even when you think about like sex work potentially being like Amy’s own idea. Like, hey, that’s kind of feminist. If
Ashley (33m 21s):
We’re like, coming from the people, why is this becoming like, why is she getting vilified? Right? Yeah.
Anne (33m 26s):
So it’s kind of like, oh, interesting. Like what, yeah. If, if there was an Amy endorsed version, do we think it would be this one? Would she be on board with, you know, being like,
10 (33m 37s):
Talking about Joey? I love talking about
Anne (33m 40s):
Joey. I love that part.
Movies That Made Us Gay (33m 44s):
We just talk about Joey. But Fuco, it’s just like, if you’re really gonna risk at all, are you gonna be doing it for this one Joey Fuco? Oh my
Ashley (33m 51s):
God,
Movies That Made Us Gay (33m 52s):
I don’t know. As
Ashley (33m 52s):
Soon as he comes on the screen and I feel like this guy’s pretty accurate to the real one. I was just like, puke. Like, I can’t, this guy makes me sick. Like, and he’s just flirting with her.
Movies That Made Us Gay (34m 3s):
There’s not any other like, long Island guys in the, in the body chop.
Anne (34m 8s):
I mean like tight, tight T-shirt and like this kind of empty hammer pants. Yep. Yeah. I mean, I don’t know, it kind of got me a little, I’m no, absolutely not. Absolutely not. But I feel like at that time he might have just been so slick.
Ashley (34m 29s):
Yeah, I I mean it could have been a charm thing. Yeah.
Anne (34m 32s):
Good place. And
Movies That Made Us Gay (34m 33s):
It’s time and place too, because it’s the car that she was Dr I forget what kind of car it was, but it’s, you know, it’s a very like Jersey shore, I feel like Long Islands, you know, the Jersey Shore, all that. It’s a, it’s a specific regional thing that, you know, people who look a certain way and they’ve lived a very comfortable middle class life in Long Island. And that was just something that Amy probably just aspired to. Like, she really saw herself living the rest of her life with Joey.
Ashley (35m 0s):
Yeah. I did appreciate like the kind of scene where she goes to her friend’s house and they give her dinner and you can tell she’s just like, this is like what I need in my life. And her, oh my God. The scene where her on Christmas morning and her mom’s like folding all the wrapping paper from the presents to reuse them. Oh my.
Anne (35m 16s):
I’m like, that’s such a cool
Ashley (35m 17s):
Little touch.
Anne (35m 18s):
But I like that touch.
Movies That Made Us Gay (35m 20s):
I was gonna say, the Christmas morning scene was also giving us a little female trouble. That was very John Waters not on Christmas. Dawn, she was gonna knock the tree down on top of her mom and just like stomp on all the presents.
Ashley (35m 33s):
She was just like sitting there. I kept waiting for something to happen too. So all of her little blowups, like, especially at the beginning, I was like, she’s, she looks like such a babe. But she is such a freaking bratt the way she was acting towards her parents. And, and then I was like, this is how Drew was to her mom when she was like 12, 13. And I was really wondering if she pulled some of that. Like, this is how she would act to her mom in real life. Which is so wild to think about. Probably like slamming doors. Like get, you’re not allowed to come in the house. Like she really told her mom what to do at one,
Anne (36m 9s):
But I think that was like, wasn’t she really high too?
Ashley (36m 12s):
Yeah. Or she was pissed that her mom was keeping her from going and getting high. Yeah. But yeah, I thought that was interesting to think about. And then I have, we have a picture of one of the script pages ’cause I’m sure you guys notice how much she plays with her hair in the movie Her amazing wig. Yeah. And in the script it said it called for that and it said it’s as if her hair was an extension of her personality. I thought that
Anne (36m 37s):
Was fun. I did notice actually that the way she was playing with her hair felt like a character thing, not Drew.
Ashley (36m 42s):
Yeah. It’s not the way Drew Drew plays with her hair a lot because
Anne (36m 44s):
There’s a part where she was like putting her hair in a ponytail and she kind of did like a thing and I was like, yes. That, that feels so specific. Yeah. For some
Ashley (36m 52s):
Reason’s. Especially because she does play with her hair all the time. It was like totally different than how she Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (36m 57s):
Right, right. She, she’s going down the very like Eileen Waro, like sure. Glaring out. But I think, you know, there’s those famous shots of when they arrested Amy and she’s in the cutoff jeans and she’s, and she’s coming out the white T-shirt and the white T-shirt and her hair is down over covering her face. And so I think that that I, to me it was like, okay, she, she’s young, she’s a kid. She uses her hair in this famous shot to, you know, to, to shield her face from the cameras. So let’s take that and extrapolate Yeah. And like run with it and it’s awesome. Love that as the character. Yeah. And there’s, okay, there’s two scenes where she goes to confront Mary Jo at the door.
Movies That Made Us Gay (37m 42s):
At the door. There’s the first one where she’s selling candy. Yes. That shot the hair is wild. Yeah. It’s
Ashley (37m 50s):
Is that when she has like under like that with the hat?
Movies That Made Us Gay (37m 53s):
No, that’s,
Ashley (37m 53s):
That’s when she shoots her.
Anne (37m 56s):
It’s like, it’s like rizzi.
Movies That Made Us Gay (37m 58s):
It’s frizzy, it’s down, it’s completely down. And it’s just completely like, it looks like Amy is like, I don’t know, picture day or going to the glamor shots. She’s like, this is her ready to like show the world. And I didn’t remember to me in my head like, I don’t know how, I don’t remember how the events went down and we didn’t watch either versions, but I remembered the whole like selling candy angle and I thought that was when she shot her. So Yeah, I don’t, because like when that scene came up I’m like, oh shit. Like we’re already here. Yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I was watching a, a news story and they were interviewing that Filipino kid.
Movies That Made Us Gay (38m 40s):
Oh. And he was kind getaway driver. He was kind of reflecting back on it of just like, I don’t know, it’s just like I couldn’t get a clear shot. I’m just not doing it.
Ashley (38m 49s):
That’s why’s the reason
Movies That Made Us Gay (38m 52s):
Back on. Yeah. Helping Amy and he’s just like, I can’t even get a clear shot. It’s like all these, this is whack. I’m not doing it. But all these people in her life just doing these things just ’cause she’s like, just do it. Like, I need a gun. Okay. What, like
Anne (39m 5s):
Who are, I think it’s like, is it like pretty girl treatment or am I putting that on her because it’s Drew like, I don’t know. I mean master manipulator maybe. I don’t know.
Movies That Made Us Gay (39m 15s):
Yeah. Yeah.
Ashley (39m 16s):
That’s how she’s portrayed right? In the media.
Movies That Made Us Gay (39m 19s):
Yeah. Yeah. But but again, like the, the way the media portrayed her was just like so wild at the time. So who knows exactly. Like what Yeah. The real stories. But the real Amy, these interviews are so kind of all over the place. I mean granted the Oprah one was 25 years ago, so it’s like, who knows? But she does seem like, yeah, maybe there is some sort of like, I don’t know, what would you sociopath kind of tendencies there where she Yeah. Manipulating people.
Ashley (39m 50s):
I did like notice when I was watching some of the videos of her back in that time, like she has sort of a vacancy in her face that I felt like Drew captured. Like Drew does not have her normal sparkle in this movie at all. Like she really, no,
Anne (40m 4s):
There are a couple scenes where I feel like I’m like, oh this is really cute. Like there’s like a post sec, the post sex scene where she’s like,
Ashley (40m 10s):
That’s true, you’re
Anne (40m 11s):
Right. And like that looks like Drew. Like it’s, but most of it’s her smile. I know, but most of it, it really doesn’t feel like her,
Ashley (40m 17s):
Which is cool. It’s kind of fun to like have something so outta the box like that. For her
Movies That Made Us Gay (40m 22s):
It was fun today to, to double feature them that we watched The Amy Fisher Story last night. And then I watched Poison Ivy this morning ’cause it had been a while since I watched it. So I, yeah, I sat down and had my morning cup of coffee and I watched all of Poison Ivy
Ashley (40m 34s):
As you do.
Movies That Made Us Gay (40m 37s):
It’s kind of really interesting to see her do these two rolls back to back. Oh yeah. And I forget how good she is in Poison Ivy. Yeah. It’s kind of how really she just really knew that character and that you’ve never really, you’re always kind of on Ivy’s side oddly through
Anne (40m 55s):
Yeah.
Ashley (40m 56s):
Yeah. ’cause she’s so charismatic or something.
Movies That Made Us Gay (40m 58s):
She’s so charismatic and she worked so well with Sarah and you can really tell in that movie that like, this movie was made by a woman. Yeah. Like I, if Poison I do is handed off to like a man, it probably turns a little even more Bemo. Schlocky. Yeah. But it all works though.
Ashley (41m 14s):
I know. It’s so it’s gonna be fun when we finally cover that one, but we’ll have a lot to say. I mean
Anne (41m 18s):
Is isn’t it kind of insane to think like, okay, so this is like Drew Barrymore under 20 playing these like very mature, sexy roles and then the person Drew Barrymore doesn’t even think of herself as like sexy. She’s like, I am just playing a role. Like that’s not me. I get to like pretend I’m that person. And then you look at her and it’s like she knows exactly what she’s doing. You know, like, I dunno. But it’s, it’s amazing to think like, I don’t know, just looking at the person and who she’s portraying and just how like charged she is as those characters. I don’t know how powerful. Yeah. And then it’s like, it’s just this person who thinks she’s a dork. It’s like, what?
Movies That Made Us Gay (41m 58s):
Yeah. I think we might have to pull a triple feature and, and finally finish Doppelganger. Oh, oh, oh my
Ashley (42m 6s):
God. Is it gonna be gun crazy or doppelganger? Those are the other, like from this era doppelganger. Have you guys ever seen it all the way through?
Movies That Made Us Gay (42m 13s):
I have. I’ve seen bits and pieces of it. We live in the doppelganger neighborhood. Yeah. We’re very close to her. We’re very
Ashley (42m 18s):
Close to the apartments.
Movies That Made Us Gay (42m 20s):
We’re about like less than 10 minutes away from it.
Ashley (42m 22s):
Yeah, that is, that is an interesting, Drew’s famous quote on that is, you’d rather stick pins in your eyes than watch that movie.
Movies That Made Us Gay (42m 31s):
Yeah, I watched it on cable. I think it was made for cable and I just
Ashley (42m 37s):
Remember. Yeah, probably.
Movies That Made Us Gay (42m 38s):
Yeah. I just remember like, oh, George Newburn. I love him. He’s so cute. Oh, Drew. I love her. Of course I’m gonna watch this and then just, it’s very LA like there’s a lot of, like they go to this restaurant in MacArthur Park that’s kind of like a famous historic like old like deli diner situation. And, but yeah, the monster is insane. I know they’re trying to go for a very like Vertigo esque kind of situation.
Ashley (43m 4s):
It’s actually supposed to be inspired by breakfast at Tiffany’s. Can you guys believe that?
Movies That Made Us Gay (43m 9s):
Okay.
Ashley (43m 10s):
Alright. And you can, there’s little things where when you know that you’re like, okay. But it’s, I remember when I rented that movie when I was like, so it’d be like 99 when I’m getting into Drew and I have her IMDB printed and highlighting ’em as I go to Blockbuster. And then I must have returned it late. And I was there later with my mom and she’s like, what is this movie? We have a late fee gang evil gangs Doppelganger the Evil within. I’m like, oh, that was me.
Anne (43m 36s):
Evil gangs hold. I forgot. I just, my brain would couldn’t stop thinking about this picture. So I just had to Oh
Ashley (43m 44s):
Darling.
Movies That Made Us Gay (43m 48s):
Well look again with the long dark hair.
Ashley (43m 50s):
Yeah. It’s actually pretty similar in wig to Amy
Movies That Made Us Gay (43m 56s):
And Amy Fisher. You’re welcome. The real hair of Amy Fisher. I mean it’s that type of like mouse brown that like really dirty brown hair. Oh, well, I mean, not to like, like judge hair color, but you know, it’s just that it’s,
Anne (44m 11s):
But not to judge hair colors, but dirty mousey brown. But
Ashley (44m 16s):
They went likey red in the wig. Yeah. There’s like red tones for sure.
Movies That Made Us Gay (44m 22s):
Well I also love the very early nineties kind of makeup styling that brick red Yeah. That she has. And also in doppelganger, I think too, she’s got a very dark red,
Ashley (44m 34s):
A lot of dark lips in the early nineties. I loved all of her wardrobe in this movie. I was like really feeling it
Anne (44m 41s):
Like
Ashley (44m 42s):
Bodysuits and like it was early nineties in an accurate way. Not like in a way you would try to make something look early nineties now. Right?
Anne (44m 51s):
Well
Movies That Made Us Gay (44m 52s):
A fast turnaround of all three of these movies is just Yes.
Ashley (44m 56s):
Mind blowing. It came out January 93. Like January 3rd.
Movies That Made Us Gay (44m 60s):
Yeah. Well
Anne (45m 1s):
That’s
Movies That Made Us Gay (45m 1s):
What Drew was, I think. Was she saying it to to to to Conan of just like, no, I didn’t go to meet her because like, there was no time happening in real time.
Anne (45m 10s):
She literally was in court when we were filming. Mary
Movies That Made Us Gay (45m 14s):
Was shot in May of 92 and the movie came out in January.
Ashley (45m 17s):
Yeah. That’s wild. Right.
Anne (45m 18s):
Well
Movies That Made Us Gay (45m 19s):
First of all Mary Jo, but Fico, I mean regardless of my feelings or anyone’s feelings about her, but this woman is like unsinkable. She gets shot in the head. Yeah. I, and she’s on the courthouse steps giving these interviews. Yes. Grant, she has nerve damage. She has, you know, hearing loss. Her face is partially paralyzed. But this woman is out there and she’s telling her truth. She’s ready for a press conference telling
Ashley (45m 48s):
Her truth. Fiercely too.
Anne (45m 50s):
But fiercely protecting Joey. Well, you know, it’s just like that part me, which is like, okay, okay, is he worth it? Is he worth it? Mary?
Movies That Made Us Gay (46m 1s):
The is we have to, we can’t defend but her,
Anne (46m 4s):
Her
Movies That Made Us Gay (46m 5s):
Conviction to all. To all of it. Yeah. Truly. And just like, like I said, shot in the head, nearly paralyzed, nearly dead. She’s worked on for hours and hours and hours. And like the next day is just like, it was that girl, it was that Fisher girl. You know, you’re just, wow. How, how does this woman just like still out there?
Anne (46m 26s):
Oh my God. Speaking of Drew being beautiful, which is always my input there. The scene when she like is on the lineup and she has to point her out. I was like, oh, Drew looks so pretty. Yeah, there’s a
Ashley (46m 37s):
Lot. I was like, Amy, Amy’s cute, whatever. But Drew’s like really pretty of this. I’m like, she’s a little more pretty than Amy.
Anne (46m 44s):
That’s thing
Movies That Made Us Gay (46m 45s):
Because they got this, what was her name of the, the, the, my story. Noelle.
Ashley (46m 49s):
Noelle Parker.
Movies That Made Us Gay (46m 50s):
No, Parker. And she looks the most like, yeah,
Ashley (46m 54s):
I agree.
Movies That Made Us Gay (46m 55s):
And then you get Alyssa Milano who launched Ariel like straight boy. Like every straight Gen X guy on earth is just like Alyssa Milano first crush right up there. And, and Drew just like this face. Right. They, they got the two of the prettiest, like pretty, they’re just, the both of them are just pretty, like there’s no other way.
Ashley (47m 22s):
You can’t hide it.
Movies That Made Us Gay (47m 23s):
Yeah. I dunno a lot about television life rights when you’re involved in something like this that, like was she just given a, just we want to use your story. Here’s a lot of money. Or were they tied to particular movies? Like, like I don’t know how that works.
Anne (47m 40s):
That’s like interesting. I actually don’t even know like TV
Movies That Made Us Gay (47m 43s):
Rights. I don’t know
Anne (47m 44s):
To have three things. They must have like, you know, they all paid a lot. Yeah. Or it was some batch
Ashley (47m 51s):
Deal.
Movies That Made Us Gay (47m 54s):
Unofficial. And I think the thing with life rights, like you’re saying Scott, like this isn’t like a Janie Glin Janis Johnson situation. Yeah. Because they didn’t put out any sort of product. We’re not licensing any, they have licensed previously. This is just all in the public. I mean, is it pretty much just ABC just saying, we wanna make a story of all these events, here’s a track. I think so. Yeah.
Anne (48m 18s):
Probably. I
Movies That Made Us Gay (48m 19s):
Mean, she would, so she would’ve had to have been paid by three networks then I, I guess
Ashley (48m 24s):
Rent and especially at that time, like who knows how those things worked. I, it’s probably totally different now.
Movies That Made Us Gay (48m 29s):
Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. But I think we’re really lucky with this because of the three with a story, because of the three different perspectives. But with this movie in particular, I just think that Drew is in such a unique period of her career and her life and, and all that. And and like we said, it’s just a few years later, like Wayne’s World is like,
Ashley (48m 53s):
Oh that’s like a second later. Yeah. Same year as this. It came out the same year.
Anne (48m 58s):
Yeah. And I
Movies That Made Us Gay (48m 59s):
Remember as a kid just say,
Anne (48m 60s):
It’s so weird. Look.
Movies That Made Us Gay (49m 1s):
And she looks so, and she’s gets to be Dr. I mean she’s B and Rigan, but she gets to be Drew.
Anne (49m 7s):
She, yeah,
Ashley (49m 8s):
She’s bubbly. So pretty in that scene.
Anne (49m 10s):
Yeah.
Ashley (49m 12s):
I love 93 Drew. She’s like especially gorgeous to
Anne (49m 15s):
Me.
Movies That Made Us Gay (49m 16s):
Yeah. It’s like all, I was a perfect age for Wayne’s World and I remember all my guy friends were just like, Drew Barrymore. Like she’s so pretty. Like they just loved her and Yeah. All my, all my straight guy friends, like to this day like still quote like oh B and Kegan and all that good stuff. But
Ashley (49m 35s):
Are you guys ever gonna cover Wayne’s World? That’s one of the only movies from my childhood that I feel like you guys haven’t touched on.
Anne (49m 43s):
It didn’t make them gay.
Ashley (49m 44s):
Yeah. I’m like, does it count? I don’t know. I’ll
Movies That Made Us Gay (49m 46s):
Gladly be in a throuple or with in like aor relationship with all of the crew members. Oh, that’s true. We love the, we love we love the crew members of Wayne’s World. All the guys that shoot each, all, all those MBOs that all,
Ashley (49m 59s):
All the long-haired metal dudes.
Movies That Made Us Gay (50m 3s):
Yep. That’s, that’s
Ashley (50m 5s):
Close enough. Right? You guys could do episode
Anne (50m 8s):
Not
Movies That Made Us Gay (50m 8s):
Alone. That’s our angle right there. But I mean, and Carrera, I mean I can we could we’ll talk. Yeah.
Ashley (50m 12s):
All just planting a seed for you. ’cause I was like, every movie that mattered to me, I was like, oh no Wayne’s world.
Movies That Made Us Gay (50m 20s):
You know, we, I feel like, you know, ’cause it’s just randomly on television, you know, cable, whatever. It’s always on demand too. Yeah. And I feel like one day I was just watching it and Scott’s like, you just watching, you’re just watching Wayne’s World now. I think I came home from work one night and we just watched the whole thing and just laughed. I love it. Like yeah. It’s Wayne’s world. It’s funny.
Ashley (50m 54s):
All right, back to Amy. And we have a couple notes we wanna just touch on real quick. So Anna and I made the exact same note for our beginning of our notes, like almost verbatim.
Anne (51m 3s):
It’s actually really funny. I,
Ashley (51m 5s):
All I did was I was cracking up. I don’t know, are you guys familiar with Mad Love? Did you guys ever watch that one from 95? I remember
Movies That Made Us Gay (51m 11s):
Watching Mad Love with her and her and Chris O’Donnell. Chris O’Donnell.
Ashley (51m 13s):
Yeah. Yeah. It’s a Drewbie favorite. It touches a lot of people’s souls. But anyway, the opening scene of this movie where Amy’s in the hospital and and I both were like typing this looks just like the scene in Mad Love where she’s in the
Anne (51m 26s):
Hospital. Well and we both use the word reminiscent. Reminiscent
Ashley (51m 29s):
Because we share a brain. Apparently we had to mention that.
Anne (51m 33s):
Yeah. Because I literally, it was like it started and I was like, this really feels like mad love. And it’s weird to think it’s like only a couple years later. Yeah. Which is really strange.
Ashley (51m 42s):
Super weird.
Anne (51m 43s):
Very strange.
Ashley (51m 44s):
And then I also wanna mention all the like prop photos. We love when they Oh yeah. For movies when they take actual photos of the person in character. But it’s not just like a still from the movie. ’cause I hate that. Yeah. So I loved her school picture. I thought it was so cute. And then all of the newspapers, I was sitting there going like, oh, I wonder what happened to all these prop newspapers with Drew as Amy.
Anne (52m 6s):
We need them for the Drew zm, whoever has them.
Movies That Made Us Gay (52m 10s):
I’m sure that Andy, Andy has it in his office.
Anne (52m 12s):
Oh, there we go. We’ll reach right out to Andy and tell him if he wants to donate them, put us in his will for the Amy Fisher story. Prop newspapers please. I’m asking.
Ashley (52m 25s):
I tried to connect with him when we did our ever after episode, but he, I think I sent him a message. He never saw it. So we’ll keep trying.
Anne (52m 31s):
It’s funny how sometimes Instagram has been like amazing for us for connecting. Yeah. And sometimes it’s just people don’t know.
Ashley (52m 39s):
They don’t even see it.
Movies That Made Us Gay (52m 41s):
Yeah.
Ashley (52m 43s):
I’m always shooting my shot though
Movies That Made Us Gay (52m 46s):
Restrictions that it’s like, yes, what it was sent, but I don’t know, maybe did they receive it? I don’t know. Yeah. So that love though, I mean, so this is 95 and this is, you wanna talk about somebody launching a lot of ships? Chris O’Donnell? Yeah. With that Buzz cut ve been on our show.
Ashley (53m 4s):
Same, well Batman Forever, same summer. Like big time for both of them.
Anne (53m 9s):
I think he’s so boring. Sorry,
Movies That Made Us Gay (53m 14s):
He’s duller than like watching the paint dry. A hundred percent. But there’s a very, like there’s a meme that that just goes around on like gay Instagram and like gay Twitter of him in his robin suit saying like, you remember the moment you knew you were gay or like, oh my God. Amazing. The, the new version of it is drag queens reading a story aren’t gonna turn your kids gay, but Chris O’Donnell and Batman.
Ashley (53m 46s):
Absolutely will. That’s so good. Yeah. Yeah. Something about that buzz cut like that’s very, I like really, that’s like a very distinct memory for me. I think I had like a corn pops box where he was like on it as Robin and I cut it out. Oh my God, I’m having weird flash. But I
Anne (54m 2s):
Didn’t know you were such a, I
Ashley (54m 4s):
Wasn’t really but he was cute in that moment. Everybody was into him for a second.
Movies That Made Us Gay (54m 9s):
I, I think that he’s still kind of rocking the buzz cut too. You know, you find a look that works. Just stick
Ashley (54m 14s):
With, can’t blame him.
Anne (54m 17s):
He basically looks the same. He is just like, a little bit like wider.
Ashley (54m 22s):
Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (54m 23s):
It feel like his
Anne (54m 23s):
Face is rounder.
Ashley (54m 25s):
Aren’t we all? And I have to point out something to you to see if you notice this. Okay. I don’t know if you guys know Confessions of a Dangerous Mind as one of our underrated favorites, George Clooney’s directorial debut. The, there it, so when the, the gross guy from the gym sells the tape and she sees it on tv, she does this look, that’s exactly the look she does in Confessions. When she catches Chuck cheating, where she like does a sad little smile and looks down and looks away. I have to make a comparison. I
Anne (54m 57s):
Didn’t notice it. Yeah, you’re gonna have to make a comparison.
Ashley (54m 59s):
It’s crazy. It’s the same angle and everything on her. Anyway, I just had to point that out to Ann ’cause I was excited about it.
Anne (55m 7s):
Yeah, we love that shit. It’s
Movies That Made Us Gay (55m 9s):
A good, but it’s a good look because it’s that like, well, fuck me. I don’t know. You know what I mean? Yeah. You got me bitch.
Ashley (55m 15s):
Yeah. It’s not just like, oh, I’m sad. It’s like, oh God, are you kidding me? Yep.
Movies That Made Us Gay (55m 20s):
I know, but I know exactly the look that you’re talking about. ’cause I, I remember specifically going, all right, I like this choice. I like this choice of, of, of her reaction to just like, dammit. Like,
Ashley (55m 29s):
Yeah,
Movies That Made Us Gay (55m 31s):
Alright. It’s kind of too bad when I’m remembering Confessions of a Dangerous Mind that she didn’t get more critical attention for.
Ashley (55m 38s):
I know. I
Movies That Made Us Gay (55m 40s):
Remember watching an interview with Renee Zellweger, where she was on like a morning talk show or something, and she was just raving about Drew.
Ashley (55m 46s):
Really? Oh, that’s so cool.
Movies That Made Us Gay (55m 49s):
I love Confessions of A Dangerous Mind. Drew Barrymore. It’s one of my favorite performances of the year. But yeah,
Ashley (55m 56s):
I know she was that one’s, it’s one of my favorites. It’s just really, there’s a lot of range in it and yeah, I just, we, we love that movie
Anne (56m 4s):
And a lot of subtlety. Like, I feel like that the, like the way that she, the way that her character is, is very subtle. I don’t know. It’s, I don’t, it also is not very true in a lot of ways,
Ashley (56m 15s):
Which is always fun to see her just being different because
Anne (56m 19s):
I mean, we love her being her, obviously.
Ashley (56m 21s):
Like, I don’t want her to be like that person. Drew Barrymore, I don’t like now.
Movies That Made Us Gay (56m 27s):
Yeah. To me it was just like brown hair in, in riding with cars, with boys. I’m just like, what a change. Yeah.
Ashley (56m 35s):
That one is not a favorite of mine. I am on the record stating that.
Anne (56m 40s):
I feel like there was one podcast we did where you were like, it keeps coming up.
Ashley (56m 44s):
It really does. You were
Anne (56m 47s):
Like mad.
Movies That Made Us Gay (56m 48s):
The most interesting part of her doing the press tour for riding in Cars of Boys is, do you remember when she hosted SNL
Ashley (56m 55s):
Of for that course right after nine 11? It was right after
Movies That Made Us Gay (56m 58s):
Nine 11. And they were advised not to do the show, right? Yeah.
Ashley (57m 2s):
There was The Anthrax scare happen while they were doing rehearsals.
Movies That Made Us Gay (57m 6s):
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and, and if they wouldn’t have done that show, we wouldn’t have like the Wesley Arms hot tub scare. Yes. Be missing out. We
Ashley (57m 16s):
Were just talking about that one.
Movies That Made Us Gay (57m 19s):
Oh my goodness. Wow. Yeah. Iconic.
Ashley (57m 22s):
I love that you guys know that. Oh my God. Yep.
Movies That Made Us Gay (57m 26s):
We’re big SNL fans. I I’m an apologist for this show. I don’t buy into this like, well, I stopped watching on Yeah. This Grow Up. It’s,
Ashley (57m 36s):
That is such a thing. It hasn’t been good since blah, blah, blah. Yeah.
Anne (57m 40s):
It’s like, no, it’s there, there are phases, you know? Yeah. Of when it’s better and when it’s not. It’s like, but no, it’s not black and white. It’s not the old stuff.
Ashley (57m 48s):
There’s no cutoff line.
Anne (57m 50s):
I mean, when I was growing up though, we had a tape of like, I don’t know what anniversary it would’ve been, but we had a VHS tape recorded, I think it was like the 25th Saturday Night Live anniversary or something. And so I watched and re-watched a bunch of stuff from the seventies when I was a kid. I was not getting these jokes.
Movies That Made Us Gay (58m 7s):
Yeah.
Ashley (58m 8s):
I used to watch them too as a kid. They would show it before the new ssn l so they would show like a seventies episode. I don’t know where my parents ever were. I was just like, I’m gonna watch this adult. I was watching Tracy Oman show by myself at like six years old. Like, I don’t know what was happening.
Movies That Made Us Gay (58m 27s):
Old l after the new episode. They would, they would usually do an old one. Okay.
Ashley (58m 31s):
That’s a really late,
Movies That Made Us Gay (58m 32s):
Do you remember who from SNL did the Amy fixture? I, I was kind of wondering if they had anybody else besides her do it. I’m sure that back in like the early nineties, they had somebody beat Amy in a sketch. But it was a, I think that it was around when she got out of prison in 99 and it Sherry o Terry.
Ashley (58m 51s):
Ooh, that’s a choice.
Movies That Made Us Gay (58m 54s):
Amy Fisher with, with Colin Quinn.
Ashley (58m 56s):
How was her? Amy Fisher pretty good.
Movies That Made Us Gay (58m 58s):
Not really. She doesn’t really do the accent. Do that accent. Yeah. It’s a, it’s just like, oh, you’re, you’re outta jail now and what are you, you know what’s going on? And does a couple of things where she’s stable, but then she kinda like goes off and loses it. The
11 (59m 12s):
Long Island Lolita herself. Amy Fisher.
13 (59m 20s):
Thank you Colin. Wow. It is so great to be out. I mean, you don’t know how good it feels to finally put on my old cutoffs and see through Halter Top and stroll around the neighborhood like a regular person. I mean,
Movies That Made Us Gay (59m 36s):
Yeah, but we didn’t, we didn’t really do a deep dive into that. That one just kind of popped up in our YouTube, so
Anne (59m 42s):
That’s funny.
Movies That Made Us Gay (59m 43s):
Yeah. I, I, I don’t remember because I was definitely watching SNL at the time too. Like I, I’ve kind of watched my whole life. Yeah,
Ashley (59m 50s):
Same.
Movies That Made Us Gay (59m 50s):
So yeah. So I, I have vague memories of their being sketches, but I, I just can’t, can’t place them right now.
Ashley (59m 57s):
Now somebody else will be yelling at their radio about how we don’t know stuff.
Anne (1h 0m 3s):
We can’t research every facet.
Ashley (1h 0m 6s):
I can know everything about Drew, but,
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 0m 10s):
But I mean, Drew and I know like that five timers club, you know?
Ashley (1h 0m 15s):
Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 0m 16s):
How many women are in the five timers club? Not that many. So
Ashley (1h 0m 21s):
I know it’s been so long too. She hasn’t been on a host since 2009, which is just, wow. What’s going on? She’s in New York all the time now. Yeah,
Anne (1h 0m 30s):
They should have her come on.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 0m 32s):
Do you think that she’ll ever get back into making movies?
Ashley (1h 0m 36s):
Oh, that, oh, that reminds me. I have something to tell you guys. Okay, so just this week Ross Matthews was asking her, you know, what would it take to get you back? And she said that she really is talking to Adam Sandler about projects that they’ve been joking with Jennifer Aniston to do a threes company. But Drew said what she wants to do is death becomes her.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 1m 0s):
Oh my goodness. I mean this, this, this death becomes her remake that’s been going around the internet for the past like five years.
Ashley (1h 1m 7s):
But I’m, I’m here for it.
Anne (1h 1m 10s):
But I could, I could see it with Jennifer Aniston Drew and Adam, Adam Sandler Sandler, Adam Sandler. Like it kind of works.
Ashley (1h 1m 19s):
Is it, is this like sacrilegious?
Anne (1h 1m 23s):
No, but I love Death becomes her Me Too. Deeply. Deeply. Yeah. So I’m like, no, don’t do it. But I’m also like,
Ashley (1h 1m 30s):
Ooh, but
Anne (1h 1m 31s):
Hold on. But who’s gonna be the, is it Isabella Rosa? Mm.
Ashley (1h 1m 35s):
Right.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 1m 36s):
We, we need, yeah, so I mean, the big one that goes around on Twitter every couple of years is this image. And it’s been going around for years now. And every time it goes around, everybody jumps in the comments and they’re just like, why remake this? This is terrible. And the image is, it’s usually Anne Hathaway, Kate Hudson, Kate Hudson, and Lady Gaga. And Lady Gaga.
Ashley (1h 2m 0s):
I’m not seeing Anne Hathaway. I don’t get that one. I
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 2m 3s):
Can’t remember who’s the, who’s the, who’s the Bruce? Well, yeah, I can’t remember who’s, who’s Bruce in that one. But yeah, I guess Anne Hathaway would have to be Meryl Stre.
Ashley (1h 2m 14s):
I guess so. Because you gotta have Kate be Goldie, right? Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 2m 17s):
Kate Goldie. And then I’ve also been seeing this rumor, it’s even trickled up to people like Jessica Chastain saying that I saw something online that people think that we should do a Death Becomes Her remake. What do you think of that Anne Hathaway? So it’s even like the rumor has like where these huge a-list stars are starting to comment on it.
Anne (1h 2m 41s):
Interesting. I’m
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 2m 42s):
Drew and Jen Anniston are in. I’m in. Yeah. Yeah. Get outta here.
Ashley (1h 2m 47s):
Okay. Which part do we want Drew to play?
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 2m 50s):
That’s the question. I think that sh I think they would,
Anne (1h 2m 55s):
I kind of think she has to be the Goldie, but I Yeah,
Ashley (1h 2m 58s):
Yeah. That’s where I go.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 3m 0s):
I, yeah, I think so too. I think they would both be good in either, but I kinda like Jen Aniston as
Ashley (1h 3m 8s):
Madeline.
14 (1h 3m 10s):
I think that,
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 3m 10s):
I think that Jen and Aniston kind of has a more Meryl Streep. I think she as Madeline, I, I would like to see her do Madeline Ashton. Yeah. I, and I think Drew could definitely do Helen. And it’s like, it doesn’t have to be one for one. We don’t, don’t have to do food and we don’t, you know, it doesn’t have to be this like one for one remake. I, I think they could just do something new with these characters, but I don’t know. I like it.
Ashley (1h 3m 36s):
All right. You heard it here first.
14 (1h 3m 39s):
I’m mixed about it.
Ashley (1h 3m 42s):
We’ll all watch it. If it happens though. We’ll say that.
Anne (1h 3m 45s):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, when that came up I was like, Ooh. Like interesting
14 (1h 3m 53s):
Murder mystery.
Ashley (1h 3m 55s):
I haven’t watched that.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 3m 57s):
You watched Murder Mystery? I watched the first one. I didn’t watch the second one, but I thought it was, it was fun.
Ashley (1h 4m 1s):
Okay. Yeah. That’s how I feel like I’ll feel about it when I finally get around to it. Like, oh, it’s fun.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 4m 7s):
You know, Scott And I always say like, what’s your favorite like Adam Sandler movie And it’s like, obviously it’s the, the Drew collaborations. Yeah. Yeah. And I just, I think it’s gotta be Wedding Singer.
Ashley (1h 4m 18s):
Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 4m 19s):
Because yeah, just because the Hawaii one 51st States States is a little cuckoo.
Ashley (1h 4m 27s):
There are definitely some things in 51st states that I’m gonna be like when we cover that. Like that didn’t age well. Well I feel
Anne (1h 4m 33s):
Like the Wedding Singer is like a good film anyway. And I think 51st dates, like the story’s kind of weak, you know, like, but Drew is very cute in it. And I swear I’m not the shallow swear. She’s so pretty in, it’s so pretty as the Murdering Psycho, not murdering Attempted Murderer 51st States. I love it because it was like, I was, I’m such a fan and I have been a big fan
Ashley (1h 5m 5s):
At that time. Yeah, yeah.
Anne (1h 5m 6s):
I was a big fan through that. So it’s like,
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 5m 9s):
And they just, they work so well together in it. Like it’s just, it’s them. That’s why we love it, you know? Yeah. But it’s like, yes,
Anne (1h 5m 16s):
His,
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 5m 17s):
His character is wild.
Ashley (1h 5m 20s):
Yeah. He’s doing some stuff that you’re like,
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 5m 24s):
What the hell? Yeah.
Ashley (1h 5m 27s):
I definitely think Robbie Hart in the Wedding Singer is a much like more sympathetic character. The wedding singer is what got me in love with Drew. So that’s like always gonna be a special place in my heart. ’cause I was just like, I, that’s it. I love her. I watched her promoting it on Letterman and Rosie and then I went and saw the movie and that was it. That was it.
Anne (1h 5m 49s):
The rest is history.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 5m 51s):
I’m holding out for her to come back to movies.
Ashley (1h 5m 53s):
I hope so. People ask all the time. It definitely sounds like Adam is gonna be the key to getting her back. They
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 5m 60s):
Have a pretty big break with the talk show of that. They have a good, yeah,
Ashley (1h 6m 5s):
It was few months or
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 6m 6s):
So,
Ashley (1h 6m 6s):
Whether or not quite a few months last time. Well, part of that was the strike. We won’t talk about that. But yeah, I think it’s more, she said she just doesn’t wanna be another person. She wants to be her kid’s mom. Like it’s definitely has to do with her kids. But as they’re getting older, I think it’s more and more likely. Yeah. Let’s hope Fingers.
Anne (1h 6m 25s):
I’m excited to see it. I feel like she can’t stay away from it forever. No. You know, like
Ashley (1h 6m 30s):
She’s a very more, give
Anne (1h 6m 33s):
Her a drink and make
Ashley (1h 6m 35s):
Devil. That’s an SNL quote too.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 6m 39s):
Side tangent about the Barry Moores of that ever. We’re in Calvary Cemetery in East la. We go to visit my grandma. We go to visit Pete’s grandma. And if you go in the old mausoleum, ’cause all of the old cemeteries here have an old mausoleum and you can usually walk into ’em if it’s not like Michael Jackson and Glendale or Yeah. You can usually walk into them and you can kind of look at everybody that’s there. And is it Lionel?
Ashley (1h 7m 5s):
Oh
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 7m 6s):
You can visit my grandma. We’re walking around the, the mausoleum because it’s so beautiful and we’re like, I bet you there’s some famous people here. So we find, and I always hop on Google to see what famous people are buried where. So
Anne (1h 7m 16s):
I love it. That’s something to do.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 7m 17s):
We find a couple of Barrymores. I think Ethel is there and I think Lionel is there. And they’re in the mausoleum. So they’re in the wall and, and Lionel is kind of closer to the ground. And as you go up and you look at it, last time we were there, there was big red lipstick, a big red kiss on it. And we were like, it’s true. Do you think it’s true? It’s true.
Ashley (1h 7m 38s):
It totally could be. She kisses her own freaking star on Hollywood Boulevard and that’s pretty nasty. So. Absolutely.
Anne (1h 7m 46s):
Aw. I’m surprised. I’ve never looked it up. I’ve never thought
Ashley (1h 7m 49s):
I know that. I think maybe John’s in Philadelphia. I think that’s where their family is from. So somebody’s over there. So yeah. The other two may be, oh, that’s so cool you guys. Now we gotta go check it out sometime. Yeah.
Anne (1h 8m 1s):
Yeah. Who else would kiss it,
Ashley (1h 8m 3s):
Right? Yeah, that’s exactly gonna, who else could it be?
Anne (1h 8m 7s):
I mean, she feels like she has a connection to this family.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 8m 9s):
She never, and also like Valentino, it’s like a Barrymore. So yeah.
Ashley (1h 8m 13s):
Yeah. Mr. Potter. I don’t think, think like he’s a big heartthrob.
15 (1h 8m 19s):
Well, what’s your point, Mr. Potter? My point, my point is I want to hire you. Hire me. Yeah. I want you to manage my affairs. Run my properties. George, I’ll start you out at $20,000 a year. Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 8m 34s):
That’s such a Drew move. Like you said, kissing the star and all that. It was very her and it was like, I don’t know how fresh the lipstick was, but it, you know, it was there. You could see it, you know. So
Ashley (1h 8m 45s):
Put some flower beauty on. It’s from like 20 years ago. It’s just like, they don’t, they don’t clean it. You guys, thank you for telling us that. I love when we have a guest that gives us new info. It doesn’t happen that often. So I’m like, yeah,
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 9m 1s):
Just doing the cemetery tour around LA is just so fascinating. Like Hollywood Forever, Calvary Glendale. Yeah. You can see the, the world’s largest painting in Glendale. Oh, of course. Of all, of all like, like tourist traps. Yep.
Ashley (1h 9m 16s):
I’ve only been to the one, is it in Westwood where Marilyn Monroe is? I’ve been to that one. And that’s it.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 9m 21s):
I think so I think
Ashley (1h 9m 23s):
That’s something we should do next time. Ann, we like going to locations. We’ve done a lot of like filming locations. It’s like a whole section on our website. We’re into all that stuff. Yeah. So I was like, oh cool. You live close to where like the doppelganger apartment is. That’s awesome. I’ve never even thought of where that would be.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 9m 41s):
I’ve always wanted to track down that, the mansion from Poison Ivy. ’cause we know, oh,
Ashley (1h 9m 45s):
We’ve been to that. We’ve been, we’ve been, it’s, we probably have the address on our website. We do. Yeah. It looks actually, we’ll I’ll send you guys some pictures. It looks pretty much exactly the same. It’s pretty exciting. It’s really cool.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 9m 58s):
Listen, it’s kind of not too far from where we are too. We’re kind of in the middle of Silver Lake. Let’s feel us in Hollywood. So we’re, yeah, so we’re kind of centralized and I mean, movie locations, we were, you know, like we said, we lived in Pasadena and South Pasadena. We would have, we would take friends to, you know, go see the, like Halloween. I can give the full Halloween walking tour. Yeah.
Ashley (1h 10m 19s):
Nice. So fun. I love that. That is awesome. You guys probably have visited my friend Lindsay’s website. I am not a stalker.com. Yes, she has. Yeah. That’s Lindsay’s Lindsay Blake, she’s our buddy. She’s helped us with a lot of locations. Yeah, she’s like the master a
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 10m 34s):
Lot when you look up. Yeah, she, yeah, I, I, I just found, stumbled upon her website. Just looking up. Yeah,
Ashley (1h 10m 40s):
Me actually, she’s another one that I found and I was like, I love everything you do now you’re gonna be my friend. And I made her be my friend. Just like you guys.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 10m 51s):
I’m
Ashley (1h 10m 51s):
Not Aer very sure. Yeah, Ashley is an active stalker, but she makes herself known, so it’s okay. I’m friendly about it. Yeah. A very friendly stalker. She does exactly how to find the people she loves and wants to make her own. Thank you. Alright, do we have anything else we wanna say about The? Amy Fisher Story?
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 11m 14s):
I do.
Ashley (1h 11m 14s):
Okay. Let’s hear it.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 11m 16s):
I’ve always kind of wondered of looking at somebody like Ryan Murphy. Do you think they would ever dig up The Amy Fisher Story and do a new miniseries? I don’t know if it would be like American crime story, Amy Fisher. If it would just
Ashley (1h 11m 32s):
Be, yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 11m 33s):
Do you think these events are worth taking another look at now if you were to do a new miniseries or something?
Ashley (1h 11m 41s):
I could totally see that and I could definitely see it like, even more so with the angle that this one sort of took with the journalist. Like really looking at it again from the, a new lens of like, this was an underage girl and this is how she was treated. Like, it could be really interesting.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 11m 57s):
You could get all of the sides, you could get Mary Jo’s side, you could get stuff with Joey. I, I just, all of these guys that she tried to buy these guns off of that got drug right. Got dragged into this. I think it would be interesting. And also Mary Jo and Joey’s kids are Yeah. Like all our ages. Oh
Ashley (1h 12m 15s):
Yeah.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 12m 16s):
They’re closer to my age and they’re grown now. So it’s like, you know, they would’ve been children at the time, but still kind of aware of everything that was going on, especially with movies and things. What a trip. So they, they would be an interesting kind of angle to get to, to talk about. So yeah, I think that there’s definitely, there’s a, people of a certain age may be unaware of this, I think. Yeah.
Ashley (1h 12m 40s):
Or my husband who’s not even of a certain age. He’s, he’s not way younger,
Anne (1h 12m 44s):
I promise. I like how in the movie they had someone like outside the courtroom that’s like, who’s
Ashley (1h 12m 49s):
Amy? Yeah,
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 12m 52s):
That’s right. No,
Anne (1h 12m 56s):
Doesn’t ring a bell.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 12m 58s):
Those huge tabloid stories at the time that just got kind of lost with a generation and a half that nobody really anymore.
Ashley (1h 13m 6s):
No, I really like in my memory, so I was 10 and I just roll this in with Tanya Harding and Yep. Lorena Bobbit. Like this is, it all was like the same time. It’s like tabloid tv craziness. And then OJ happened and it was
Anne (1h 13m 24s):
OI was just gonna say for me, I feel like I remember OJ more than any of the other ones. Yeah. I’m like slightly younger. So I guess it like makes sense just a couple of years later, I don’t know.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 13m 33s):
And I, I think I was at the stage, I, I watched a lot of tv, same
Ashley (1h 13m 39s):
Too much
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 13m 39s):
TV and I was watching SNL and Late Night and all that stuff. So I feel like, you know,
Anne (1h 13m 46s):
The commentary
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 13m 48s):
Yeah. You know, the hosts, late Night hosts at that time, I don’t think there were, there was a lot of scrutiny of the jokes that they were making or just kind of nobody in the writer’s room just being like, you know, I know this is kind of a crazy story, but maybe we shouldn’t be making jokes about this girl that’s 17. Yeah. Yeah.
Ashley (1h 14m 8s):
That was not a thing at all. They didn’t care.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 14m 11s):
And I think, you know, I think Letterman of course, has kind of been somewhat put through the ringer for kind of the way he treats women and, you know, some of his interviews and things like that. I feel like Jay Leno’s come out of all this kind of smelling like a rose and he wasn’t exactly, you know, a Boy Scout.
Ashley (1h 14m 27s):
Yeah. Wasn’t that, wasn’t that in Pamela Anderson’s documentary? I think there’s a thing with Leno where she really had to like kinda set him in his place.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 14m 36s):
Yeah, absolutely. Documentary was so good.
Ashley (1h 14m 39s):
It was really good.
Anne (1h 14m 41s):
I didn’t see it.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 14m 42s):
Oh, it’s great. But yeah, I do, I think it would be very interesting to see, or even if it was just like, I don’t know, just like a Hulu kind of like the Lorena Bobbit thing or that that was Amazon Prime. Yeah. I think that was Prime. But yeah, any kind of a documentary that has news people now reflecting on it. Yeah. Yeah. Which is always kind of, I
Ashley (1h 15m 4s):
Like it, you know what, this is what happens though. We’re gonna talk about it and then all of a sudden next week we’re gonna find out something’s in the works and we’ll be like, see.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 15m 14s):
Yeah. Yeah. That’s, that’s the biz.
Ashley (1h 15m 18s):
I am really glad that you guys like provoked us to rewatch this though. It had been a long time for me, but I still remembered so much of it. I was like, I guess I watched this more than I thought I did.
Anne (1h 15m 28s):
And on the flip side, I felt like I hadn’t even seen it. Yeah. Maybe once. Like I was like, amazing. I don’t remember this at all. Like her getting the car, like, I’m like, I don’t remember this scene at all. And her name is spelled a, I I know E because that all
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 15m 43s):
A pin striping on the car with her name. Oh my gosh.
Ashley (1h 15m 48s):
So nineties. But it was so fun to just like, again, see Drew be in this era of her career, which is always fascinating. And then be so not herself and not resting on being likable, which is something that she has been accused of and is even said that she does. And Amy is not that here. I did have a one quote from ID magazine. I thought this was cool. They said A Drew is, Amy is magnificently real, trapped, hurt, lonely, and morally vacant. I’m like, yeah, I see that
Anne (1h 16m 21s):
Accurate.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 16m 21s):
Yeah. That’s the thing. I feel like it was such a departure for her. And it’s like, I think, you know, for I, for a kind of a general audience, maybe somebody who’s doesn’t do the, the deep dives that the four of us do, I think, you know, you kind of have this idea of this character that she plays and you know, this just bubbly flower girl kind of a thing. And maybe it wasn’t until something like Great Gardens when people were just like, wow, maybe she really can do, do a little bit more. But for this being so early in her career, it was like, yeah, I don’t remember it being this much of a departure. Wow. I was just like, wow, she’s really, she’s really creating this character.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 17m 2s):
And I mean, for, for better or for worse, you know, what’s going on with the, the accent work. But you know, because we did watch so much of like news, they really did talk about it. Yeah. Like everybody,
Ashley (1h 17m 17s):
They all sound like caricatures.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 17m 20s):
The kids like the grown, they all have, this is a thick accent. And I don’t know if it’s the same town Massapequa, where Amy, where The, Amy, Fisher Story kind of took place. But I know Rosie O’Donnell and she always talks about how she grew up in the same neighborhood as the Baldwins Alec and Oh wow. His brother and I don’t, and maybe Massapequa it maybe the same neighborhood in Long Island. Yeah.
Anne (1h 17m 46s):
Oh, interesting.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 17m 47s):
Yeah. But it might be a, a neighboring one right around there. There’s like Comac and, and and Massapequa and then there’s, I mean, Montauk is further out, but yeah, I know that, that Rosie and the Baldwins weren’t pretty much neighbors and I think it was in the general vicinity and Rosie obviously has a different accent. Yeah. But there, you know, yeah. But yeah, all that stuff is just like, for her being 17, like, wow. Like that’s, that’s amazing. Like Jesus and, and to knock out these three in a row, she did what was the one right before this?
Ashley (1h 18m 22s):
So she did Poison, Ivy gun, crazy doppelganger this and then Bad Girls. So that was her little streak of bad, bad girls. Bad
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 18m 31s):
Girl. Oh man. Bad girls in years.
Anne (1h 18m 36s):
Yeah.
Ashley (1h 18m 37s):
Another one that’s not that great. But it’ll be fun to revisit.
Anne (1h 18m 41s):
Yeah, totally. And like you said,
Ashley (1h 18m 43s):
Actually you guys wanna come back for bad girls, just let us know.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 18m 47s):
And eyebrows in the wild, wild West.
Anne (1h 18m 49s):
Oh
Ashley (1h 18m 49s):
Yeah. Perfectly curled beautiful hair. But I am so thrilled that you guys came on. I appreciate you letting me stalk you and befriend you. And coming on the show is a true, like really exciting honor for me personally, so thank you so much.
Anne (1h 19m 8s):
Yes, thank you.
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 19m 9s):
Thank you for having us. And thank you for, for just like gassing us up on your show. Yeah. Like all of the shout outs we’ll have you on. We’ll have you on ours next year when we start recording new episodes. Absolutely.
Anne (1h 19m 19s):
Awesome.
Ashley (1h 19m 20s):
You heard of Hair first?
Anne (1h 19m 22s):
I’m excited. Thank you. Coming with all of the, the facts about Amy and stuff that like Yeah. And you guys like, I don’t know, you added this richness, this like lovely whipped cream on top of our just Drew,
Ashley (1h 19m 39s):
The whi cream and the cherry from you guys and where just the little chocolate Drew cake or the lasagna she threw away. Oh, I was so upset about that.
16 (1h 19m 49s):
Hi. I made dinner.
17 (1h 19m 52s):
Yes. I see.
16 (1h 19m 53s):
I know it looks big, but the rests for 10. Oh,
17 (1h 19m 56s):
It smells delicious, honey. How much cheese did you use?
16 (1h 20m 1s):
I don’t know, A couple of pounds or something.
17 (1h 20m 3s):
Oh, you know, sweetheart, we have to be careful when we’re cooking for your dad because it’s cholesterol who said he had to eat any,
Anne (1h 20m 9s):
I would’ve ate the shit out of that lasagna.
Ashley (1h 20m 12s):
I was like
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 20m 16s):
Worths. I know how lasagnas and expensive. How
Anne (1h 20m 20s):
Much cheese did you put in there?
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 20m 26s):
This was a pleasure. You guys are great. Thank you so much. Thank you for Thank you.
Ashley (1h 20m 29s):
Thank you.
Anne (1h 20m 31s):
All right everybody.
Ashley (1h 20m 33s):
You guys know what to do and you know where to find us. And if you don’t go listen to the last episode, we’ll tell you at the end of that one.
Anne (1h 20m 39s):
Yes. And where should people find you guys
Movies That Made Us Gay (1h 20m 42s):
We’re movies that made us gay. We are on, I mean we’re on everything. We’re on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, which I guess is now X blue sky. We’re all there movies that made us gay. Yeah. And we’re on pretty much every podcast listening Yeah. Platform. You can download an episode, you can download us. Yeah. If you, if you have an it’s pre-installed, otherwise Spotify. So yeah, go look
Ashley (1h 21m 5s):
For us. Or you can download 300 episodes like I practically did. Yeah. Okay. I know you don’t have that many more like probably 45.
Anne (1h 21m 13s):
Okay. You
Ashley (1h 21m 14s):
Guys were my top podcast on my Spotify wrapped. I found out yesterday. So,
Anne (1h 21m 19s):
All right everybody, check out movies that made us gay. Thank you so much for staying till the end and we’ll see you next Tuesday.
Ashley (1h 21m 26s):
Thanks guys. Bye-Bye.
Anne (1h 21m 29s):
Bye. Bye.
18 (1h 21m 32s):
You said we’d always be together. I never said that. You know, and if you need some time because it’s Christmas and stuff, I understand, just don’t say it, so don’t say it’s over. Don’t ever say it’s over.
Anne (1h 21m 60s):
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Ashley (1h 22m 9s):
Special thanks to Matt Costa for our lovely theme song, Roxy Prima, for our adorable logo. And last but not least, Drew, Barrymore and all the Drewbise who love her, we do this for you.
Anne (1h 22m 20s):
Thank you.
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